WEBVTT - Draft Show: Twenty One To Go 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:04.920 The following is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.080 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:09.680 Cowboys. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:17.440 This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.320 room for inseter news and draft analysis from deep within 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:26.239 the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:34.159 Today is Thursday, April fourth, twenty twenty three, and we 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.760 are officially three weeks out twenty one days to the 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.720 NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan. As we welcome you in 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.080 to the Draft Show presented by Miller Light, a taste 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.920 you can depend on. We are running out of time, 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:50.440 everybody is. The draft is quickly approaching. Thirty visits currently 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.720 happening across the hallway from where we sit here at 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.240 the Star in Frisco. And of course we've got plenty 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.279 to talk about with some positional resets. Today we've got 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.120 Aisha Morrison, Brian brought us Bobby Belt back in the 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:05.600 fold today. I'm Kyle Yeoman's Bobby. Welcome back to the show. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:06.479 Thank you. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:07.199 You're pretty busy. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.600 Phones, I have headphones on. I don't normally get the 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.240 headphones because I'm usually posting up right here. And I 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.479 also feel like completely inconsistent because I got the Plano 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.399 East had on today. I like it. But then I've 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:23.119 got Marcus Schwartz, I've got competing high schools on here. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.320 And then I'm gonna go watch Keller softball tomorrow. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.679 Are you really Yeah, big big Keller softball. 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:29.720 They invited us out. They were like, hey, we got 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.039 a big game against Southake, would you guys mind coming out? 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:33.600 I was like, sure, I'll go. So I'm going to 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.880 see Keller High school softball. The man of the people, 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.400 that's what I try to be. Yeah, you are, that's 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:41.000 casting a wide net, Brian. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:42.640 I'd about to say that, Yeah. 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:42.880 It's funny. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.800 I've met, among other things, I've. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.720 Had phone calls with some of the admin with Tarlton 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.600 State and they talked about you guys and your impact 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.200 with you and Choppy and all of the trips out 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:54.880 to Stevenville. 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.840 I left a negative impact in a lot of ways 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.160 as Stephenville, I think. But it was a party. It 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.320 was a good time, got the people talking. Hey, I 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.600 enjoyed it. I love Tarleton, Go Texans, steven. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.040 Field, greatest place on God's Green Earth. There there you go. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.320 Cowboy country real, it is real, Cowboy Country no doubt 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.160 about it. I'll be out there Sunday for baseball. By 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:14.880 the way, you want to make great line. You want 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:15.240 to come out. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.880 Maybe what we gotta going on? It's Saturday. I got 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.600 a party Friday, I got softball Sunday. Nothing's felling. Oh wait, 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.840 I may have actually have Mavericks tickets right. 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.920 Oh okay, I already. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.840 I loved Tarleton. Yeah, big Charltonton baseball guys. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.600 Would coordinate some other things going on here. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:30.960 I mean you want to go with us, You're you're 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:31.800 all about road trips. 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.800 No, I do love the Feature of Strength, though, I 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:36.760 do love it. I'd like driving to the Senior Bowl. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:38.960 I know you want to. You want to make those 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:40.440 like thirteen hour drives. 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.079 All Beam and I are we're all about the feat 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:43.600 of Strength. 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.440 Oh yeah, of course we're all the driving. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.680 You give us an r V, we will take it 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.080 anywhere you want to have to go. 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:54.079 I've been trying to talk Brass into having the r 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.080 V trips for the last four years. It's it's just 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.359 it hasn't happened. You think the there. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.000 I think the RV trip would be fun if you 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.520 covered a couple of really prominent pro days. 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:04.240 Oh yeah, sure. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.080 You know if you actually were able there to go 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.800 in there and you hit say you hit A, you 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.480 hit Alabama and then you hit Georgia or you know, 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:12.919 you hit something in the South, you know you could 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.000 do We did Texas and Texas, A and M one time, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.360 which was really cool when Johnny Manziel was involved, and 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.160 you get a lot of you get a lot of 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:20.960 really good information being out there on the road. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.120 Do you run routes for Johnny No? 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.240 I stood behind the barrier and watched him throw routes. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.519 Yeah, to people who were not even receivers. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.360 Necessarily he may have to run around. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.639 No, No, that was the the Johnny would remember. That's 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.760 his agent, Eric Burkhart. 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.520 Brian's gonna have to run routes for Josh Allen and 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.560 the Buffalo Bills pretty soon too. How about that they 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:42.920 don't have anything going on out there? 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:43.200 Man? 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:44.840 Well, no, wait, that might be a good thing for 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.320 you Dallas Cowboys if you think about that trade up. 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.160 You know, but we're all we've talked about these wide 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.000 receivers since January. You know, it might be where people 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.600 are gonna and I know we're going to get into 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.080 depth of positions, but that might be something you keep 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:58.600 an eye. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.440 On, No doubt the trade yesterday Stephan Diggs going to 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:05.240 the Texans and really now you've got Buffalo that is 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.200 pigeonholed into taking a first round wide receiver, and if 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.000 they want to move up a couple of spots, I 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:13.040 think that would be a significant trade down option for 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:17.359 the Cowboys. Speaking on the Cowboys, though reported thirty visits, 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.599 we talked through a number of names on Tuesday. A 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.479 couple other names that have come out since then. This 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.840 is straight off of Nick Harris's Twitter of Nick Nick 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.080 not here today, he's across the hall doing an interview, 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:31.040 but we've got some names to go through. Matt Gonclaves 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.360 from Pittsburgh the offensive tackle. We talked about some of 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.560 these linebackers, including Nathaniel Watson, Jordan McGee, Payton Wilson, which 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:43.640 was reported by Brian Edrian Cooper, Trevin Wallace from Kentucky. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.760 Then you've got Byron Murphy reported by Ryan Fowler. The 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:52.799 Texas defensive tackles. Ali is it Ali Ali? 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:53.120 Yeah? 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:57.120 Ali Wash the Marshall running back reported by our very 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.920 own Dame Brugler. Then Malachai Corley receiver out of Western 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.440 Kentucky when comes from CBS. But when you're looking at 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.400 these names, aisha, which ones stick out to you of 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.440 the names that were reported this past week. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:12.599 I mean stick out. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.320 I think I don't know if he's gonna be there, 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:16.640 but I think Byron Murphy he. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.320 Sticks out to me. And only the reason why. 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.960 Is because he is a He's a local, like he's 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.840 from here, and I think we've seen the Cowboys have 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:26.880 a little bit of an infatuation with some of the 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.359 guys that are local. You think about even a Tyler Smith, 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:33.200 he's a Footworth Native and seeing him, you know, become 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.960 somebody that maybe they're interested in. It's also interesting about 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:42.599 Malachai Corley, how he's really risen his stock this off 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.880 season and how he's been able to kind of climb 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.400 people's bors and get people's attention, especially coming from a 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.680 school like Western Kentucky. I think it just says a 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:54.880 lot about his progress and what he's capable of as 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:56.840 a player. Because if you don't have him pretty high 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.479 on your board right now, you're probably a little wrong. 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.839 So yeah, those two gentlemen stand out the most to me. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.800 What you got Bobby Corley. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.680 Is the one because Corley. I mean, obviously, we see 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.680 a lot of different like running backs and offensive linemen 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.000 and different people that they've brought in different positions that 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:13.919 they brought in. Corley being the only receiver on the 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.320 list in a very deep class I think is interesting 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.880 to me. Whether that's because it stands out as somebody 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.039 that they're really really high on, or potentially just that's 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.159 somebody they feel they need answers on compared to the 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.120 rest of the draft class. But I mean, I love 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.200 Malachi Courtley fun and in fact, he's receiver. We talked 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.440 about this Brandon, I think it's seven. He's receiver seven 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.279 for me. Wow, and second round. So I really like 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.160 Malachi Corley and think he's a whole lot of fun 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.680 and I think within this offense he could do a 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.240 lot of damage, and so he's really interesting to me. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.240 I love that one. And then obviously, I mean the 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.479 fact that they're bringing in somebody like Peyton Wilson and 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.120 just you know, being able to get a check on 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:51.960 the medicals. 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:52.360 There and everything else. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.760 That's definitely why they brought him in. They definitely like, 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:56.919 let us get a. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:02.279 Peak, extra peak at Peyton Wilson. I love malakat Corey. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.359 I don't know Corley, I don't know if he's necessarily 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.320 a top ten receiver in the draft. For me, I 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.240 just I can't put him against like Worthy and Maconkie, Coleman, Lagette, 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.120 Roman Wilson, Piersoll. These are all guys that I think 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:14.560 are in the same conversation. 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.400 Man, I have him on top of all those guests, 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.760 I think on the yack Kingky. 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:21.920 Yeah, they call him the yack King. I just I 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:23.280 worry about the size a little bit. 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.000 I'll tell you what. This son of a gun though. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:25.200 Man. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:29.040 But he has got a running backs mentality, the way 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.200 he carries the ball and like you you throw him 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.560 the ball, he is going to run through people, run 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.080 over people. Uh, you know, he's a tough guy and 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.160 so to me. And but you're you're talking about when 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.480 all those names of the guys you had, they've all 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.040 got that trait. They've all I mean, I'm sure they're 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:52.360 on everybody's board. Everybody has Coraley, McConkie from Georgia, Worthy 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.840 from Texas, pearsal Pearsall from Florida. Is a fun watch. Yes, 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.040 you know, Roman Wilson from Michigan. They're all kinds what 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.920 are the same in that regard of throwing the ball, 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:03.880 big play. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.640 Which is I mean, which is gonna be helpful to 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.040 me when you look a lot of these guys to 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.080 me are chess pieces, I guess you can say. And 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.360 also too, they can be an extension of your backfield 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.240 in certain ways, like when you mentioned Okay, like he 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:18.400 can do running back things. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:19.960 You can use these guys in the screen game. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.240 You can use these guys on the outside and do 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.000 some creative things with them. A lot of these gentlemen, 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:26.680 to include Malchy like, they're. 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.280 Not just I'm a wide receiver. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.760 Oh, you can use them in certain different elements and 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.600 they a lot of them have the ability to play 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.400 inside and outside and so I. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.640 It's this class is it's crazy because. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.480 Last year is my first time doing a draft obviously, 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.160 but to see the difference in this class in last 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.440 year's class, where I felt like there weren't that many 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.000 of these guys in that draft and if there was 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.680 a guy like these guys, they went early and people 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.000 got a hold of them really quickly. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:54.320 Yeah. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.880 And when you're talking about Malakai Corley specifically, it's the 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.400 limited route tree, which is a knock against them. Western 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:01.240 Kentucky didn't. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.960 Really util Yes, it was the utilization. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.040 WKU didn't use him in that way. They said, chuck 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.480 it up, go make a big play, have fun, run 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.080 past everybody, and be the yak king is what they 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:16.080 called him at Western Kentucky. But you mentioned inside outside versatility, 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.199 I think he's limited to the slot. Do you think 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.120 he can play outside if you're going to put him 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:20.480 up there? 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:22.880 Look, I mean I think that a lot of what 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.800 he does here, Like when we talk about the limited 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:26.800 route tree and stuff like that, it's because a lot 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.520 of his game is going to be like, you know, 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.280 just quick, get the ball in his hands. And so 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.600 I mean, whether that's smoke routes on the outside or 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.200 whatever it is. I think he can become a better 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.760 route runner than he currently is. I think he's a 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.320 good route runner, but I think there's definitely room for improvement. 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.120 And to me, the biggest thing with him, and something 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.439 that he'll see on the outside a lot too, is 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.360 is he always finishing? You know, contested catches, is the 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.240 fifty to fifty stuff breaking his way and a lot 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.600 of times it's not. And so if you get somebody 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.520 who's particularly sticky somebody who's playing, you know, really physical 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.480 with him that can slow him down at times. That's why, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.480 I mean, that's that's honestly the thing that keeps him 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.920 from being like a first round receiver for me. Yeah, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.640 but I mean I really like the growth potential for him? 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:10.960 How do you navigate that? 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.400 Like, and I'm asking as far as. 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.280 When you look at a program and you look at usage, 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.320 how do you guys? I'm asking you guys, like, how 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.640 do you navigate seeing that a guy's usage or the 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:25.480 way that they played him and within a system, how 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.000 does that tie into some of your decisions on where 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.320 you rank him? Because to your point, we clearly know 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.800 that Western Kentucky is not doing a whole munch exotic 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.320 things offensively. How do you guys be like, Okay, well, 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.440 I can see this guy doing this distance. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.360 What steps do you take to evaluate that? 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.640 I mean, I think you can see just about anything 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.000 you want to see in flashes. It's obviously just the 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.559 sample size, Like how much of a sample size do 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.320 you have? So then it's the application of Okay, what 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.920 am I projecting out in terms of the flashes that 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.360 I have or the limited available you know, the limited 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.280 available data and then also to you know, putting it 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.920 in some cases against athletic testing or whatever else, the 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.440 combine it and saying well, I think you can just Schoonmaker, 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.200 for instance, was a guy who's not asked to do 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.440 a lot of the things that you would have wanted 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.960 him to do here in Dallas in Michigan, and so 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.400 you just found flashes of it, and then you tried 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.680 to say, Okay, you know the the athletic testing with 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.439 the three cone and the ten yard splits and other 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.240 little things like how do you couple that and say, well, 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:19.920 I think I can project out that he can do 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.280 these things here. I assume that he can do this, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.040 or in flashes you see it here, in small sample size, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:26.600 you see it here. So I mean it's just a projection. 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.120 It's the same thing we used to run into. The 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.080 guy I always think of where it's like you're having 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.000 to project out is Corey Coleman like that. Coleman was 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:34.600 a guy like that coming out of Baylor, where it's 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.360 like that Baylor who's not asked to do very much and. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.200 Yeah, it's really limited. You had to project. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.240 Down a little bit. Yeah, Similarly, you had to project 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.640 out on a guy, the best player in football, and 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.520 now you had to project out with Mahomes, Like there 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.520 were questions about like what was Mahomes going to be 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.560 asked to do at the NFL level and was he 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.679 capable of it? And that's some some of that stuff 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.040 you're not going to know, and that's why scouts are 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.440 scouts and why they're pared to paid to do what 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.439 they do. We're projecting out a lot more than what 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.360 they're Surgeon House shows. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:01.839 Man. 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.760 I watched him play against Ohio State. He was good 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.439 in that game, and I'm thinking, like, Okay, if he's 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:11.120 playing good against Ohio State, who puts twenty five guys 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.520 in the NFL every year, it seems like, you know, 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.359 we we kind of got that with watching that quarterback 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.080 last year Ohio State, you know, when they played Georgia 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.160 and you know all the matchups and stuff like draft. 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.480 So the competition is something as well. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.880 I think it's something because you know, like I say, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.480 Louisiana tach Florida Atlantic, Sure, but Ohio State, you know, 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.400 you hunt those games, you hunt those games, and you 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:34.959 know the. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.640 Fact that you remember Shawn Slater against Chase Young, that 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:39.880 was that was a game like you measure that, you go, o, hey, 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.800 what did Slater look like when he got Chase across 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:42.600 from and he handled them? 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.880 Yeah. See, I grew up in a system where it 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.000 was always about the Florida State Miami game was always 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.560 huge in the early nineties, and it was that was 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.400 like the first tape you started with. When any either team, 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.960 you're like, okay, good on, good here. And then if 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.079 you get a small school guy, fortunately he goes to 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.400 the Senior Bowl, then you start to look at the 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.760 drills there and you're like, okay, how does he handle 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.720 the drills? You know, Western Kentucky getting covered by Michigan 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.839 or getting covered by Alabama or getting Yeah, and he. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:12.000 Was named the top receiver. 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.679 That's what and a blender. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.080 You know. I think we could all say this about 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.280 Doron Bland now and I've said it before, and I 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.520 believe you guys would agree with me, because you guys 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.640 study tape just as hard as I do. That Pac 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.440 twelve missed Deron Blaine. We just call it Fresno. Nothing 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.800 a gets Fresno. Sometimes these kids end up in places 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.080 and you're like, how do you end up at Western Kentucky? 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.760 You know, why wasn't Why wasn't Why wasn't Vanderbilt in 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.000 on this? Why wasn't Kentucky in on this? Why wasn't 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.760 Tennessee in on this one? You know, and sometimes you 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.280 have to question that. But I you know, I look 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.680 at him and call you asked the question about slot only. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.560 His measurements are five eleven two point fifteen. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:51.880 He's wide. 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.640 I mean, I'm thinking, like, just get him the damn ball. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.319 I don't care how you know, that's that's how I mean. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.960 It's coaches jobs to figure this out. And you're if 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.840 you're saying inside only, and I'm like, cool, you can 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:06.880 still get him the ball, but get him the damn ball. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.840 I mean I used to put him in the backfield. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.560 Bobby put him out wide. You know, but when you 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.920 watch the tape of this guy, I can understand why 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.320 the Cowboys did this because or bringing him in. This 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.440 kid's got a lot of toughness, and they for the 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.480 last couple of playoffs they've dealt with having that guy 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.040 in San Francisco. You know that you're starting to see 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.520 more of that. You're starting to see more of these 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.520 receivers that have they're big, they catch and they're like 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.320 running backs. In the open field, just blistering people. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.680 He mentioned Deebo Samuel and his Senior Bowl interviews. 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.800 Yeah, at the same time, that's who he gets compared 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.200 to most often as like the high end projection and 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:44.080 and Debo was the same. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:49.480 How South Carolina that there's there's the school, there's the school. Yeah, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.440 that's the same thing. But we're starting to see college 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:57.280 programs get these guys involved. This guy was a college 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:01.320 He was originally a cornerback, a corner back, and they 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.800 moved him to wide receiver. We've seen a couple of 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.760 those guys get shifted to other positions and now they're 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:09.080 thriving that way. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.920 Yeah, I mean, and you mentioned the Senior Bowl. Honestly, 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.880 when you talk about the route running Bobby, the Senior 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.480 Bowl answer some of those questions for me about him too, 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.320 because it didn't matter. And I understand that you know, 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.880 one on ones that dvs are at a disadvantage in 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.160 some areas, but it didn't matter who was on him 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:27.960 in those drills. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.840 He made some of our top corners that we like 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:31.680 look stupid. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.400 He was literally saying by to them when he was 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.400 coming out of his releases. I do think guys do 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.600 have the opportunity before they go to these camps and 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.000 stuff to improve. And I think he showed some things 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.400 in the Senior Bowl that would make me more encouraged 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:46.520 about his route running as well. 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.360 Yeah, and that's another part of it that is really 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.480 helpful in the process of like what you're trying to 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.880 project out is those drills and stuff, but like you 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.560 point out, like the corners already disadvantaged a lot of 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.800 times in those drills and like I mean the one 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.000 that I was come back to of like you can 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:02.680 gain a lot from seeing it. You always talk you 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.840 guys always talk about the Zach Martin, Aaron Donald, the 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.480 matchups and what you're able to get out of that. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.520 At Senior Bowl. The guy, the guy that I always 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.200 go back to is like, here's a cautionary tale too 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.800 of like don't buy into it too much or wait 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:16.640 it probably remember Braxton Miller. Yeah, And Braxton Miller was 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.760 considered like, oh my gosh, nobody can handle him when 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.280 he you know, he had all these highlight reel like 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.400 situations against corners where it's like he's making corners mad 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.320 and they're like wanting to fight him in these practices 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.040 just because of his footwork and what he's doing, and 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.240 then it came out and it doesn't hit the same way. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.240 So I think it's definitely like it's all part of 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:37.200 the the entire information gathering process. And that's why it's 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.000 it's such a big job. That's why I mean, the 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.240 guys in this building, they're they're grinding eleven months out 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.640 of the year, like I mean, really putting in work 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.320 that goes more than just this three months that people 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:48.400 are really aware of it. 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:48.680 Right. 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.520 It's such an interesting process, top to bottom, And that's 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.760 why it is a process. It's not we're not just 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.320 grading off of games in film and then taking these 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.840 guys into the NFL. You want an extra look along 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.600 the way, since we're talking about Corley and he's the 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.359 one wide receiver that's been reported as a thirty visit, 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:06.960