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Speaker 3: everybody is. The draft is quickly approaching. Thirty visits currently
Speaker 3: happening across the hallway from where we sit here at
Speaker 3: the Star in Frisco. And of course we've got plenty
Speaker 3: to talk about with some positional resets. Today we've got
Speaker 3: Aisha Morrison, Brian brought us Bobby Belt back in the
Speaker 3: fold today. I'm Kyle Yeoman's Bobby. Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're pretty busy.
Speaker 4: Phones, I have headphones on. I don't normally get the
Speaker 4: headphones because I'm usually posting up right here. And I
Speaker 4: also feel like completely inconsistent because I got the Plano
Speaker 4: East had on today. I like it. But then I've
Speaker 4: got Marcus Schwartz, I've got competing high schools on here.
Speaker 4: And then I'm gonna go watch Keller softball tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Are you really Yeah, big big Keller softball.
Speaker 4: They invited us out. They were like, hey, we got
Speaker 4: a big game against Southake, would you guys mind coming out?
Speaker 4: I was like, sure, I'll go. So I'm going to
Speaker 4: see Keller High school softball. The man of the people,
Speaker 4: that's what I try to be. Yeah, you are, that's
Speaker 4: casting a wide net, Brian.
Speaker 2: I'd about to say that, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's funny.
Speaker 2: I've met, among other things, I've.
Speaker 3: Had phone calls with some of the admin with Tarlton
Speaker 3: State and they talked about you guys and your impact
Speaker 3: with you and Choppy and all of the trips out
Speaker 3: to Stevenville.
Speaker 4: I left a negative impact in a lot of ways
Speaker 4: as Stephenville, I think. But it was a party. It
Speaker 4: was a good time, got the people talking. Hey, I
Speaker 4: enjoyed it. I love Tarleton, Go Texans, steven.
Speaker 3: Field, greatest place on God's Green Earth. There there you go.
Speaker 3: Cowboy country real, it is real, Cowboy Country no doubt
Speaker 3: about it. I'll be out there Sunday for baseball. By
Speaker 3: the way, you want to make great line. You want
Speaker 3: to come out.
Speaker 4: Maybe what we gotta going on? It's Saturday. I got
Speaker 4: a party Friday, I got softball Sunday. Nothing's felling. Oh wait,
Speaker 4: I may have actually have Mavericks tickets right.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I already.
Speaker 4: I loved Tarleton. Yeah, big Charltonton baseball guys.
Speaker 2: Would coordinate some other things going on here.
Speaker 4: I mean you want to go with us, You're you're
Speaker 4: all about road trips.
Speaker 2: No, I do love the Feature of Strength, though, I
Speaker 2: do love it. I'd like driving to the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 4: I know you want to. You want to make those
Speaker 4: like thirteen hour drives.
Speaker 2: All Beam and I are we're all about the feat
Speaker 2: of Strength.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course we're all the driving.
Speaker 5: You give us an r V, we will take it
Speaker 5: anywhere you want to have to go.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to talk Brass into having the r
Speaker 3: V trips for the last four years. It's it's just
Speaker 3: it hasn't happened. You think the there.
Speaker 2: I think the RV trip would be fun if you
Speaker 2: covered a couple of really prominent pro days.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure.
Speaker 2: You know if you actually were able there to go
Speaker 2: in there and you hit say you hit A, you
Speaker 2: hit Alabama and then you hit Georgia or you know,
Speaker 2: you hit something in the South, you know you could
Speaker 2: do We did Texas and Texas, A and M one time,
Speaker 2: which was really cool when Johnny Manziel was involved, and
Speaker 2: you get a lot of you get a lot of
Speaker 2: really good information being out there on the road.
Speaker 4: Do you run routes for Johnny No?
Speaker 2: I stood behind the barrier and watched him throw routes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to people who were not even receivers.
Speaker 3: Necessarily he may have to run around.
Speaker 4: No, No, that was the the Johnny would remember. That's
Speaker 4: his agent, Eric Burkhart.
Speaker 3: Brian's gonna have to run routes for Josh Allen and
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills pretty soon too. How about that they
Speaker 3: don't have anything going on out there?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: Well, no, wait, that might be a good thing for
Speaker 2: you Dallas Cowboys if you think about that trade up.
Speaker 2: You know, but we're all we've talked about these wide
Speaker 2: receivers since January. You know, it might be where people
Speaker 2: are gonna and I know we're going to get into
Speaker 2: depth of positions, but that might be something you keep
Speaker 2: an eye.
Speaker 3: On, No doubt the trade yesterday Stephan Diggs going to
Speaker 3: the Texans and really now you've got Buffalo that is
Speaker 3: pigeonholed into taking a first round wide receiver, and if
Speaker 3: they want to move up a couple of spots, I
Speaker 3: think that would be a significant trade down option for
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. Speaking on the Cowboys, though reported thirty visits,
Speaker 3: we talked through a number of names on Tuesday. A
Speaker 3: couple other names that have come out since then. This
Speaker 3: is straight off of Nick Harris's Twitter of Nick Nick
Speaker 3: not here today, he's across the hall doing an interview,
Speaker 3: but we've got some names to go through. Matt Gonclaves
Speaker 3: from Pittsburgh the offensive tackle. We talked about some of
Speaker 3: these linebackers, including Nathaniel Watson, Jordan McGee, Payton Wilson, which
Speaker 3: was reported by Brian Edrian Cooper, Trevin Wallace from Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Then you've got Byron Murphy reported by Ryan Fowler. The
Speaker 3: Texas defensive tackles. Ali is it Ali Ali?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Ali Wash the Marshall running back reported by our very
Speaker 3: own Dame Brugler. Then Malachai Corley receiver out of Western
Speaker 3: Kentucky when comes from CBS. But when you're looking at
Speaker 3: these names, aisha, which ones stick out to you of
Speaker 3: the names that were reported this past week.
Speaker 6: I mean stick out.
Speaker 7: I think I don't know if he's gonna be there,
Speaker 7: but I think Byron Murphy he.
Speaker 6: Sticks out to me. And only the reason why.
Speaker 7: Is because he is a He's a local, like he's
Speaker 7: from here, and I think we've seen the Cowboys have
Speaker 7: a little bit of an infatuation with some of the
Speaker 7: guys that are local. You think about even a Tyler Smith,
Speaker 7: he's a Footworth Native and seeing him, you know, become
Speaker 7: somebody that maybe they're interested in. It's also interesting about
Speaker 7: Malachai Corley, how he's really risen his stock this off
Speaker 7: season and how he's been able to kind of climb
Speaker 7: people's bors and get people's attention, especially coming from a
Speaker 7: school like Western Kentucky. I think it just says a
Speaker 7: lot about his progress and what he's capable of as
Speaker 7: a player. Because if you don't have him pretty high
Speaker 7: on your board right now, you're probably a little wrong.
Speaker 7: So yeah, those two gentlemen stand out the most to me.
Speaker 8: What you got Bobby Corley.
Speaker 4: Is the one because Corley. I mean, obviously, we see
Speaker 4: a lot of different like running backs and offensive linemen
Speaker 4: and different people that they've brought in different positions that
Speaker 4: they brought in. Corley being the only receiver on the
Speaker 4: list in a very deep class I think is interesting
Speaker 4: to me. Whether that's because it stands out as somebody
Speaker 4: that they're really really high on, or potentially just that's
Speaker 4: somebody they feel they need answers on compared to the
Speaker 4: rest of the draft class. But I mean, I love
Speaker 4: Malachi Courtley fun and in fact, he's receiver. We talked
Speaker 4: about this Brandon, I think it's seven. He's receiver seven
Speaker 4: for me. Wow, and second round. So I really like
Speaker 4: Malachi Corley and think he's a whole lot of fun
Speaker 4: and I think within this offense he could do a
Speaker 4: lot of damage, and so he's really interesting to me.
Speaker 4: I love that one. And then obviously, I mean the
Speaker 4: fact that they're bringing in somebody like Peyton Wilson and
Speaker 4: just you know, being able to get a check on
Speaker 4: the medicals.
Speaker 2: There and everything else.
Speaker 6: That's definitely why they brought him in. They definitely like,
Speaker 6: let us get a.
Speaker 3: Peak, extra peak at Peyton Wilson. I love malakat Corey.
Speaker 3: I don't know Corley, I don't know if he's necessarily
Speaker 3: a top ten receiver in the draft. For me, I
Speaker 3: just I can't put him against like Worthy and Maconkie, Coleman, Lagette,
Speaker 3: Roman Wilson, Piersoll. These are all guys that I think
Speaker 3: are in the same conversation.
Speaker 2: Man, I have him on top of all those guests,
Speaker 2: I think on the yack Kingky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they call him the yack King. I just I
Speaker 3: worry about the size a little bit.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. This son of a gun though.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: But he has got a running backs mentality, the way
Speaker 2: he carries the ball and like you you throw him
Speaker 2: the ball, he is going to run through people, run
Speaker 2: over people. Uh, you know, he's a tough guy and
Speaker 2: so to me. And but you're you're talking about when
Speaker 2: all those names of the guys you had, they've all
Speaker 2: got that trait. They've all I mean, I'm sure they're
Speaker 2: on everybody's board. Everybody has Coraley, McConkie from Georgia, Worthy
Speaker 2: from Texas, pearsal Pearsall from Florida. Is a fun watch. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, Roman Wilson from Michigan. They're all kinds what
Speaker 2: are the same in that regard of throwing the ball,
Speaker 2: big play.
Speaker 7: Which is I mean, which is gonna be helpful to
Speaker 7: me when you look a lot of these guys to
Speaker 7: me are chess pieces, I guess you can say. And
Speaker 7: also too, they can be an extension of your backfield
Speaker 7: in certain ways, like when you mentioned Okay, like he
Speaker 7: can do running back things.
Speaker 6: You can use these guys in the screen game.
Speaker 7: You can use these guys on the outside and do
Speaker 7: some creative things with them. A lot of these gentlemen,
Speaker 7: to include Malchy like, they're.
Speaker 8: Not just I'm a wide receiver.
Speaker 7: Oh, you can use them in certain different elements and
Speaker 7: they a lot of them have the ability to play
Speaker 7: inside and outside and so I.
Speaker 8: It's this class is it's crazy because.
Speaker 7: Last year is my first time doing a draft obviously,
Speaker 7: but to see the difference in this class in last
Speaker 7: year's class, where I felt like there weren't that many
Speaker 7: of these guys in that draft and if there was
Speaker 7: a guy like these guys, they went early and people
Speaker 7: got a hold of them really quickly.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And when you're talking about Malakai Corley specifically, it's the
Speaker 3: limited route tree, which is a knock against them. Western
Speaker 3: Kentucky didn't.
Speaker 8: Really util Yes, it was the utilization.
Speaker 3: WKU didn't use him in that way. They said, chuck
Speaker 3: it up, go make a big play, have fun, run
Speaker 3: past everybody, and be the yak king is what they
Speaker 3: called him at Western Kentucky. But you mentioned inside outside versatility,
Speaker 3: I think he's limited to the slot. Do you think
Speaker 3: he can play outside if you're going to put him
Speaker 3: up there?
Speaker 4: Look, I mean I think that a lot of what
Speaker 4: he does here, Like when we talk about the limited
Speaker 4: route tree and stuff like that, it's because a lot
Speaker 4: of his game is going to be like, you know,
Speaker 4: just quick, get the ball in his hands. And so
Speaker 4: I mean, whether that's smoke routes on the outside or
Speaker 4: whatever it is. I think he can become a better
Speaker 4: route runner than he currently is. I think he's a
Speaker 4: good route runner, but I think there's definitely room for improvement.
Speaker 4: And to me, the biggest thing with him, and something
Speaker 4: that he'll see on the outside a lot too, is
Speaker 4: is he always finishing? You know, contested catches, is the
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty stuff breaking his way and a lot
Speaker 4: of times it's not. And so if you get somebody
Speaker 4: who's particularly sticky somebody who's playing, you know, really physical
Speaker 4: with him that can slow him down at times. That's why,
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's honestly the thing that keeps him
Speaker 4: from being like a first round receiver for me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I mean I really like the growth potential for him?
Speaker 8: How do you navigate that?
Speaker 6: Like, and I'm asking as far as.
Speaker 7: When you look at a program and you look at usage,
Speaker 7: how do you guys? I'm asking you guys, like, how
Speaker 7: do you navigate seeing that a guy's usage or the
Speaker 7: way that they played him and within a system, how
Speaker 7: does that tie into some of your decisions on where
Speaker 7: you rank him? Because to your point, we clearly know
Speaker 7: that Western Kentucky is not doing a whole munch exotic
Speaker 7: things offensively. How do you guys be like, Okay, well,
Speaker 7: I can see this guy doing this distance.
Speaker 8: What steps do you take to evaluate that?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think you can see just about anything
Speaker 4: you want to see in flashes. It's obviously just the
Speaker 4: sample size, Like how much of a sample size do
Speaker 4: you have? So then it's the application of Okay, what
Speaker 4: am I projecting out in terms of the flashes that
Speaker 4: I have or the limited available you know, the limited
Speaker 4: available data and then also to you know, putting it
Speaker 4: in some cases against athletic testing or whatever else, the
Speaker 4: combine it and saying well, I think you can just Schoonmaker,
Speaker 4: for instance, was a guy who's not asked to do
Speaker 4: a lot of the things that you would have wanted
Speaker 4: him to do here in Dallas in Michigan, and so
Speaker 4: you just found flashes of it, and then you tried
Speaker 4: to say, Okay, you know the the athletic testing with
Speaker 4: the three cone and the ten yard splits and other
Speaker 4: little things like how do you couple that and say, well,
Speaker 4: I think I can project out that he can do
Speaker 4: these things here. I assume that he can do this,
Speaker 4: or in flashes you see it here, in small sample size,
Speaker 4: you see it here. So I mean it's just a projection.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing we used to run into. The
Speaker 4: guy I always think of where it's like you're having
Speaker 4: to project out is Corey Coleman like that. Coleman was
Speaker 4: a guy like that coming out of Baylor, where it's
Speaker 4: like that Baylor who's not asked to do very much and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really limited. You had to project.
Speaker 4: Down a little bit. Yeah, Similarly, you had to project
Speaker 4: out on a guy, the best player in football, and
Speaker 4: now you had to project out with Mahomes, Like there
Speaker 4: were questions about like what was Mahomes going to be
Speaker 4: asked to do at the NFL level and was he
Speaker 4: capable of it? And that's some some of that stuff
Speaker 4: you're not going to know, and that's why scouts are
Speaker 4: scouts and why they're pared to paid to do what
Speaker 4: they do. We're projecting out a lot more than what
Speaker 4: they're Surgeon House shows.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I watched him play against Ohio State. He was good
Speaker 2: in that game, and I'm thinking, like, Okay, if he's
Speaker 2: playing good against Ohio State, who puts twenty five guys
Speaker 2: in the NFL every year, it seems like, you know,
Speaker 2: we we kind of got that with watching that quarterback
Speaker 2: last year Ohio State, you know, when they played Georgia
Speaker 2: and you know all the matchups and stuff like draft.
Speaker 6: So the competition is something as well.
Speaker 2: I think it's something because you know, like I say,
Speaker 2: Louisiana tach Florida Atlantic, Sure, but Ohio State, you know,
Speaker 2: you hunt those games, you hunt those games, and you
Speaker 2: know the.
Speaker 4: Fact that you remember Shawn Slater against Chase Young, that
Speaker 4: was that was a game like you measure that, you go, o, hey,
Speaker 4: what did Slater look like when he got Chase across
Speaker 4: from and he handled them?
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I grew up in a system where it
Speaker 2: was always about the Florida State Miami game was always
Speaker 2: huge in the early nineties, and it was that was
Speaker 2: like the first tape you started with. When any either team,
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, good on, good here. And then if
Speaker 2: you get a small school guy, fortunately he goes to
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl, then you start to look at the
Speaker 2: drills there and you're like, okay, how does he handle
Speaker 2: the drills? You know, Western Kentucky getting covered by Michigan
Speaker 2: or getting covered by Alabama or getting Yeah, and he.
Speaker 3: Was named the top receiver.
Speaker 8: That's what and a blender.
Speaker 2: You know. I think we could all say this about
Speaker 2: Doron Bland now and I've said it before, and I
Speaker 2: believe you guys would agree with me, because you guys
Speaker 2: study tape just as hard as I do. That Pac
Speaker 2: twelve missed Deron Blaine. We just call it Fresno. Nothing
Speaker 2: a gets Fresno. Sometimes these kids end up in places
Speaker 2: and you're like, how do you end up at Western Kentucky?
Speaker 2: You know, why wasn't Why wasn't Why wasn't Vanderbilt in
Speaker 2: on this? Why wasn't Kentucky in on this? Why wasn't
Speaker 2: Tennessee in on this one? You know, and sometimes you
Speaker 2: have to question that. But I you know, I look
Speaker 2: at him and call you asked the question about slot only.
Speaker 2: His measurements are five eleven two point fifteen.
Speaker 4: He's wide.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thinking, like, just get him the damn ball.
Speaker 2: I don't care how you know, that's that's how I mean.
Speaker 2: It's coaches jobs to figure this out. And you're if
Speaker 2: you're saying inside only, and I'm like, cool, you can
Speaker 2: still get him the ball, but get him the damn ball.
Speaker 2: I mean I used to put him in the backfield.
Speaker 2: Bobby put him out wide. You know, but when you
Speaker 2: watch the tape of this guy, I can understand why
Speaker 2: the Cowboys did this because or bringing him in. This
Speaker 2: kid's got a lot of toughness, and they for the
Speaker 2: last couple of playoffs they've dealt with having that guy
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. You know that you're starting to see
Speaker 2: more of that. You're starting to see more of these
Speaker 2: receivers that have they're big, they catch and they're like
Speaker 2: running backs. In the open field, just blistering people.
Speaker 3: He mentioned Deebo Samuel and his Senior Bowl interviews.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at the same time, that's who he gets compared
Speaker 4: to most often as like the high end projection and
Speaker 4: and Debo was the same.
Speaker 2: How South Carolina that there's there's the school, there's the school. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the same thing. But we're starting to see college
Speaker 2: programs get these guys involved. This guy was a college
Speaker 2: He was originally a cornerback, a corner back, and they
Speaker 2: moved him to wide receiver. We've seen a couple of
Speaker 2: those guys get shifted to other positions and now they're
Speaker 2: thriving that way.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and you mentioned the Senior Bowl. Honestly,
Speaker 7: when you talk about the route running Bobby, the Senior
Speaker 7: Bowl answer some of those questions for me about him too,
Speaker 7: because it didn't matter. And I understand that you know,
Speaker 7: one on ones that dvs are at a disadvantage in
Speaker 7: some areas, but it didn't matter who was on him
Speaker 7: in those drills.
Speaker 6: He made some of our top corners that we like
Speaker 6: look stupid.
Speaker 7: He was literally saying by to them when he was
Speaker 7: coming out of his releases. I do think guys do
Speaker 7: have the opportunity before they go to these camps and
Speaker 7: stuff to improve. And I think he showed some things
Speaker 7: in the Senior Bowl that would make me more encouraged
Speaker 7: about his route running as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's another part of it that is really
Speaker 4: helpful in the process of like what you're trying to
Speaker 4: project out is those drills and stuff, but like you
Speaker 4: point out, like the corners already disadvantaged a lot of
Speaker 4: times in those drills and like I mean the one
Speaker 4: that I was come back to of like you can
Speaker 4: gain a lot from seeing it. You always talk you
Speaker 4: guys always talk about the Zach Martin, Aaron Donald, the
Speaker 4: matchups and what you're able to get out of that.
Speaker 4: At Senior Bowl. The guy, the guy that I always
Speaker 4: go back to is like, here's a cautionary tale too
Speaker 4: of like don't buy into it too much or wait
Speaker 4: it probably remember Braxton Miller. Yeah, And Braxton Miller was
Speaker 4: considered like, oh my gosh, nobody can handle him when
Speaker 4: he you know, he had all these highlight reel like
Speaker 4: situations against corners where it's like he's making corners mad
Speaker 4: and they're like wanting to fight him in these practices
Speaker 4: just because of his footwork and what he's doing, and
Speaker 4: then it came out and it doesn't hit the same way.
Speaker 4: So I think it's definitely like it's all part of
Speaker 4: the the entire information gathering process. And that's why it's
Speaker 4: it's such a big job. That's why I mean, the
Speaker 4: guys in this building, they're they're grinding eleven months out
Speaker 4: of the year, like I mean, really putting in work
Speaker 4: that goes more than just this three months that people
Speaker 4: are really aware of it.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: It's such an interesting process, top to bottom, And that's
Speaker 3: why it is a process. It's not we're not just
Speaker 3: grading off of games in film and then taking these
Speaker 3: guys into the NFL. You want an extra look along
Speaker 3: the way, since we're talking about Corley and he's the
Speaker 3: one wide receiver that's been reported as a thirty visit,
Speaker 3: how early would you be okay with Dallas taking a
Speaker 3: wide receiver? Would you would you be fine with a receiver?
Speaker 3: I I know first round is more of like a
Speaker 3: if a guy falls, but let's say nobody falls in
Speaker 3: the first round.
Speaker 2: Where would you be okay with the first Can I
Speaker 2: ask a question to take it a little further? Sure,
Speaker 2: would you take a running back or a receiver, if
Speaker 2: they were equal, equal on your board, equal, I would
Speaker 2: take a running back. If they're even on the board,
Speaker 2: I'm taking a tailbag. Like you got to say, you
Speaker 2: have Corley as your seventh best player, Bobby, and you're
Speaker 2: looking at Benson from Florida State maybe as that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're both in the second Yeah you
Speaker 4: t take Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why is that? Is that just the value positional value
Speaker 3: of running back? I just think running back is replaceable.
Speaker 7: I just changed so much, like to me, the way
Speaker 7: it's viewed. I mean, and it's particularly with this class.
Speaker 7: There are some guys you know in the later rounds,
Speaker 7: but this running back class to me, is more top
Speaker 7: heavy in itself.
Speaker 3: So which is why I would take a running back early,
Speaker 3: because you could.
Speaker 8: Maybe receiver your argument, But I'm also like, you're.
Speaker 3: Trying to run the football, you're trying to go downhill.
Speaker 3: You're building around possibly an offensive first round pick, offensive line,
Speaker 3: first round pick. You want to run the rock. I
Speaker 3: would go with Trey Benson in that center.
Speaker 4: I think I can. I think I can can scheme
Speaker 4: things up easier in the passing game for Corley with
Speaker 4: questions on the offensive line. Then I can scheme things
Speaker 4: up easy for Benson with questions on the offensive line,
Speaker 4: like Benson is going to be more reliant on how
Speaker 4: much have you built up your offensive line than I
Speaker 4: feel like what you want to do with somebody like Cory.
Speaker 3: Well, if you take a first round pick and you
Speaker 3: feel good about your left tackle, let's say they take
Speaker 3: a tackle in the draft. You got a left tackle there, sure,
Speaker 3: I mean you're okay with the interior at the moment.
Speaker 4: We assume Steele is going to bounce back off of injury,
Speaker 4: but we don't know Zach Martin. Zach Martin is a
Speaker 4: year older. We don't know who's playing center, left guard,
Speaker 4: left tackle yet, And so to me, it's that's a
Speaker 4: lot to then just think, well, Trey Benson will fit that.
Speaker 4: Like to me, I look at Malachi Corley.
Speaker 2: I can do I don't know if b Jeon Robertson
Speaker 2: would fix that.
Speaker 4: I mean you can Arthur in Atlanta, Like I mean,
Speaker 4: you look at the the in general. The way that
Speaker 4: you can scheme up and get the ball in Corley's
Speaker 4: hands and let him create in space. I think it's
Speaker 4: easier to let him create and contribute as a second
Speaker 4: round pick than it would be with Benson. But I honestly, man,
Speaker 4: it's that's hard. It's tough because you you've got a
Speaker 4: lot that you still need to address it a number
Speaker 4: of positions, and you don't have a fourth round.
Speaker 2: Pick, third round receiver, third round back.
Speaker 3: Now we're now, we're getting closer to be taking a
Speaker 3: receiver because I think the wide receiver class stretch is
Speaker 3: better than the running back class. I don't expect the
Speaker 3: Trey Benson to be there at the in the third round.
Speaker 3: I expect him to be gone.
Speaker 2: But can I can I interest? Okay, you go on that.
Speaker 6: You said third round receiver.
Speaker 2: Third round receiver, third round, third round running back, third
Speaker 2: round receiver, and you're talking potentially at my board, I'm
Speaker 2: looking at guys like Lloyd from USC. I'm looking at
Speaker 2: right from tw in a Sea they brought in they've
Speaker 2: reported on the thirty Alan, who I know Bobby likes
Speaker 2: more than me. And then Irving is another one from Oregon. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: Lloyd Wright, Alan Irving, Say Pearce, Saw Leggett, Roman Wilson
Speaker 2: Walker from North Carolina McMillan. On my board, I.
Speaker 3: Have Bucky Irving in the second so he will get
Speaker 3: highest on my list, So I'm gonna take him off
Speaker 3: of that list completely.
Speaker 2: No, No, you could take You could say I would.
Speaker 3: Take Bucky in that scenario. He's the last second round
Speaker 3: player out of that group you just gave.
Speaker 4: Me Corley and Allen is what I would go there
Speaker 4: because I like Alan as much as I do, so
Speaker 4: Alan in the third round. But I mean, it's again,
Speaker 4: it's stuff I feel I feel like, am I using resources,
Speaker 4: precious resources the right way if I'm drafting two skilled
Speaker 4: position players with my top three picks.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Asa made a trade with the Ravens. She got you's
Speaker 2: got Baltimore's picked in the third round.
Speaker 3: To get drafting football teakay pa, Okay, So now you've
Speaker 3: picked up you've picked up would you consider using your extra.
Speaker 4: Do you have two two's and two threes?
Speaker 2: You still know you have two threes? That's it?
Speaker 4: How did I pick up the extra third?
Speaker 2: You moved down to thirty?
Speaker 4: Oh? Okay, so picked up three? You went from.
Speaker 2: Twenty six, You went from twenty six to thirty, and
Speaker 2: you picked up Baltimore's pick at the round.
Speaker 4: I've got first round, second round then two threes, right,
Speaker 4: two late threes. Yeah, I mean I could be more.
Speaker 4: I could be more convinced to take a receiver and
Speaker 4: a running back in that situation because I've addressed.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question. The extra pick that
Speaker 2: you get, what position you're going for?
Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, after what is it?
Speaker 6: Third round?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a third it's gonna be a third round pick.
Speaker 2: Say say Dallas picks up Baltimore's pick, like we were
Speaker 2: talking about, they go get a wide receiver. They give you,
Speaker 2: they give you. But now you have that extra would
Speaker 2: you consider that? What would you use your extra three?
Speaker 2: Did we take an offensive line? What do we take
Speaker 2: In the first two rounds, you've taken offensive lineman, you've
Speaker 2: taken a running back, and at fifty six.
Speaker 6: I'm going receiver.
Speaker 4: Fifty six you took a running back.
Speaker 2: No, No, at fifty six you took a round. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you got eighty you got eighty seven.
Speaker 4: Call it Guidon and Brooks or whatever. Just as an example,
Speaker 4: that's fine, just to work off of that Guiding and Brooks. Okay.
Speaker 4: Then yeah, with my I honestly think if even when
Speaker 4: we're sitting there in the fifth round, I think there's
Speaker 4: a decent chance you have like a fourth round graded receiver.
Speaker 4: Because I had said, so I'm going, I'm I might
Speaker 4: double dip at offensive line and then take a safety.
Speaker 3: I was thinking linebacker and possibly a receiver, possibly depending
Speaker 3: on how highly graded the guy is there, I.
Speaker 6: Will go receiver.
Speaker 7: So I guess my question for you guys is how
Speaker 7: many wide receivers on this?
Speaker 6: And again I got plenty of love for Jaylen Toldar.
Speaker 3: Need a defensive tackle there too.
Speaker 2: How many, That's what I was saying.
Speaker 7: How many these wide receivers are better than what Jalen
Speaker 7: Tolbart is right now that you could get in the
Speaker 7: third round and none of them.
Speaker 4: I don't know what Jaylen Tolbert is right now. I
Speaker 4: would the problem.
Speaker 2: I would take pearsall Florida. I'd take Leggett South Carolina.
Speaker 3: I'd love that fit.
Speaker 2: Man. Now I'm now, I'm tru Now I'm struggling Roman Wilson,
Speaker 2: Walker from North Carolina and McMillan from Washington. That's I
Speaker 2: I man, I'm I think I might take Roman, Wilson
Speaker 2: and McMillan, even though I have Walker higher over Like
Speaker 2: I just jump, I just jumped. I just jumped a tag,
Speaker 2: which I would never do. But I just in my mind,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I like I say I I I think
Speaker 2: I think every one of my third round guys I
Speaker 2: would surely consider as opposed to Tolbert just from what
Speaker 2: I've seen so far.
Speaker 3: Well, and you can get a guy that's a different
Speaker 3: player than Tolbert too. Zat is a deep play threat.
Speaker 3: He's your Michael guys, and they grabs Holbert in the
Speaker 3: third right.
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, that's why I asked.
Speaker 7: But you mentioned d T as an option. Yeah, actually,
Speaker 7: still about that, because.
Speaker 6: The the I'm not gonna I think it does.
Speaker 7: There is a drop third round tee after about that
Speaker 7: early fourth.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a huge dropping.
Speaker 3: You've got You've got Murphy Newton, Sweat Jenkins or or
Speaker 3: Fisk at the top. And then after that here were
Speaker 3: my three four guys. I've got Dwayne Carter from Duke,
Speaker 3: Michael Hall Junior from Ohio State, Brandon Dorles from Oregon,
Speaker 3: Mkay Wingo from l s U, the guy that that
Speaker 3: that Brian loves more than anybody, Mason Smith out of
Speaker 3: L s U.
Speaker 2: I should maybe love him that much.
Speaker 3: McKinley Jackson from A and M's an interesting that's there,
Speaker 3: where's see I.
Speaker 7: Think I think he's gonna move him back to age.
Speaker 7: I think I can see Zim moving him back to age.
Speaker 4: I mean Zimmer wants to Zimmer wants to be big
Speaker 4: on the defensive line, and I think but and so,
Speaker 4: I mean that would make more sense to have him
Speaker 4: on the edge than say, like let's hybrid him inside.
Speaker 4: But I mean to me, it's like, I think that extra.
Speaker 2: Pick has to be a defensive tackle.
Speaker 9: I think I.
Speaker 2: Look Jackson from Texas A and m would be my
Speaker 2: guy there.
Speaker 4: There's so many things that they could they could use
Speaker 4: to build depth right now. That a part of me,
Speaker 4: and it may not be the best approach, but a
Speaker 4: part of me says, Mazzi needs to just figure it,
Speaker 4: like like you need Mazzi and Osa to figure it out,
Speaker 4: Like you've spent the resources there. I don't want to
Speaker 4: sing more resources when I got out there. Like to me,
Speaker 4: it's like, hey, that has figured it Out's biggest thing
Speaker 4: squares down. Yeah, Osa's thing is just fatigue at the
Speaker 4: end of the year, it feels like. But to me,
Speaker 4: it's like Osa and Mazzi should be enough. Mazzie needs
Speaker 4: to just it needs to click this year. So to me,
Speaker 4: I'd say, hey, we made that evaluation, we picked him
Speaker 4: over a premium position at offensive line, went ahead and
Speaker 4: did that. We need to trust the evaluation. We need
Speaker 4: to trust the coach and staff to get the guy ready,
Speaker 4: which I think they're capable of.
Speaker 3: When I think we sh classify a late third round
Speaker 3: pick of general resources, and especially with a being yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't have a four that's gotta be an important I.
Speaker 4: Kind of I count a top one hundred pick without
Speaker 4: a fourth rounder especially, that needs to be somebody who's
Speaker 4: gonna come in here and play.
Speaker 7: I think there are a few guys that you can
Speaker 7: get late, though, Like if we're gonna take your route,
Speaker 7: Bobby and be like, let's trust, then if.
Speaker 6: They do that, then I'm I think.
Speaker 7: Trust who though you said you said trust, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: trust staff and those guys to get him ready.
Speaker 6: I do think he can he can improve.
Speaker 8: I'm just like, do you have the luxury of depending
Speaker 8: on that right now?
Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of luxuries in general building
Speaker 4: this roster right now, and so that's one of them
Speaker 4: that you're gonna have to count on. Is a guy
Speaker 4: you picked in the first round a year ago.
Speaker 8: So maybe you just picked DT later.
Speaker 6: That's what you're saying, Go go.
Speaker 4: Go, go value shopping, go in the dollar ninety nine,
Speaker 4: Ben at the DVDs, like, and that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 8: What do you guys have Keith Rudolf.
Speaker 6: Illinois?
Speaker 4: Uh, and you're born deeper.
Speaker 7: I've got him as like a sixth Yeah, okay, I'm
Speaker 7: asking because if you're going to you're gonna wait then
Speaker 7: you're talking about you about what you saw him.
Speaker 6: I see a three text sometimes a five tech. They
Speaker 6: move him around and just.
Speaker 3: Like that, he's next to Newton too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so and I mentioned that before.
Speaker 7: Do we consider who they're playing against because that especially
Speaker 7: in that interior, because it does change how people defend
Speaker 7: you or hope people play against you.
Speaker 6: But anyway, so he wins with power leverage. He has
Speaker 6: heavy hands.
Speaker 8: I think he has he gets quick penetration, penetration.
Speaker 7: He finds the ball well like you can see sometimes
Speaker 7: he can't get there, but he's locating the ball quickly.
Speaker 6: He's he's high effort.
Speaker 8: He's disruptive.
Speaker 7: I think if you are going to talk about maybe
Speaker 7: waiting later and like a McKinley Jackson's gone or some
Speaker 7: of those guys are gone, that maybe he is a
Speaker 7: gentleman that you take a look at, or like a Jaydon.
Speaker 2: Crumby Crumby Crumby. I'm digging on this one, and I
Speaker 2: was going to ask you about a haul.
Speaker 7: From Babe Michael how Gabe Haul game Haul?
Speaker 2: Where do you play? Michael is at Ohio State. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's there's two halls in the spirit, Okay, Gabe Haul.
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you a bit that, because
Speaker 2: where do you play Gabe Haul Baylor? Is he a
Speaker 2: three or is he a one?
Speaker 3: I put him as a three.
Speaker 2: He's six ninety one something like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's a Waller Texas native.
Speaker 3: I know that makes him You can stand him up
Speaker 3: on the edge.
Speaker 6: You have him as a three.
Speaker 2: Okay, That's what I was.
Speaker 10: I was.
Speaker 2: I was struggling, and I know you were busy doing work.
Speaker 2: I was like, please help me. I sent the bat signal.
Speaker 7: Up and you were like, I was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 7: but he's he's very explosive. I liked me some Gabe Haul.
Speaker 6: You guys think he's gonna fall.
Speaker 8: I think he'll fall because people.
Speaker 6: Don't know what he is.
Speaker 7: Just hit like there such a I don't know, he's
Speaker 7: he's such a wild card, but you know, the motor
Speaker 7: in the pursuit is just out of this world. Like
Speaker 7: he shows some patients in the run game as well.
Speaker 7: He has a really lean frame. He's he's not a
Speaker 7: pretty player. That's what I Oh no, that's my that
Speaker 7: might deterbe some people is that he's not pretty, but
Speaker 7: he's gonna he's gonna tussle every time he's in there.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I like him too. Later if you do
Speaker 7: decide to go by the rout and trust, do you
Speaker 7: know who?
Speaker 3: He reminds me of Brian a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: You remember Logan Broders Logan, Yeah, log Yeah, he was
Speaker 3: a Houston edge rusher, but it was kind of a tweener.
Speaker 3: Could have been in three tech if you really wanted to.
Speaker 3: He kind of fizzled out. Wasn't really the guy that
Speaker 3: you would think.
Speaker 2: I think Krumdy is hey you say that, krim Dumbdy Crumdy.
Speaker 2: I think he's the same way from Mississippi State. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know he's six ' forti's three oh one.
Speaker 2: I've seen him play inside. I mean I've seen him
Speaker 2: play over the center. I've seen him play as a three,
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Man, this guy's played a ton
Speaker 2: of games. I just don't I'm hunting to one and
Speaker 2: I can't find him.
Speaker 3: Jackson.
Speaker 2: For me, it is if you're talking about, if you
Speaker 2: don't go for fisk and you don't have the opportunity
Speaker 2: to get sweat, it's.
Speaker 7: Hard to find true ones because of these guys are
Speaker 7: developing as these tweeners.
Speaker 6: As these guys that can help rush the passer.
Speaker 7: Because I even think about I think about a Christian
Speaker 7: boy in northern Iowa who is stout, build lots of penetration,
Speaker 7: can take on double teams and things like that, but
Speaker 7: where he really wins is that initial step and him
Speaker 7: being speedy.
Speaker 8: Can he take on double teams?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 6: Does he have the balance in the course strength to
Speaker 6: do it.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, But you're we've started seeing this in this last
Speaker 7: couple of years. Is that Beabe out of the whole
Speaker 7: draft is about three four ones and everybody else is
Speaker 7: this tweener. And that's I think that's appealing to a
Speaker 7: lot of coaches because they want pass rush, but you're
Speaker 7: seeing that that hinder their run defense capabilities and what
Speaker 7: you're asking them to do.
Speaker 8: So it's like, I guess it's something we just got
Speaker 8: to adjust too, big dog, Like, I.
Speaker 6: Don't know what is it? What do you guys think
Speaker 6: is gonna happen?
Speaker 7: If we're if we're looking at a diminishing number of
Speaker 7: nose tackles in the league, are teams just going to
Speaker 7: keep taking advantage of it? These offensive lines, these linemen
Speaker 7: are manmates. Yeah, Like they're getting bigger, it feels like,
Speaker 7: and the defensive interior is getting smaller.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's all cyclical and so that's I mean,
Speaker 4: it is. It's it's one of the like not fine one,
Speaker 4: I know. And that's what I'm saying is that, like,
Speaker 4: I mean, look, linebackers have gotten lighter and lighter and faster,
Speaker 4: and like it's not the it's not it's not Levonn
Speaker 4: Kirkland running around at linebacker anymore. And so because that,
Speaker 4: I mean, like, I mean, they'll they'll I mean, any
Speaker 4: of the Pittsburgh linebackers from the mid nineties, even Pig
Speaker 4: Jason Gilden whoever. Uh. The the smaller that the linebackers get,
Speaker 4: the bigger that these offens, it's going to start making
Speaker 4: a comeback. The run game, the power rung game is
Speaker 4: going to make a comeback, and then you're going to
Speaker 4: start seeing the development of more one techniques and bigger linebackers,
Speaker 4: and it's just gonna it's this endless cycle. That's the
Speaker 4: it's it's it's constantly. It's just reactionary.
Speaker 3: It's a pass heavy league. It'll go back to a
Speaker 3: run heavy league, and then it'll go back to a pass.
Speaker 3: It'll go back and forth.
Speaker 2: It's like basketball man in the playoff. Get that center
Speaker 2: off the floor, right, get off.
Speaker 4: We get so we're bringing back the mid ragons. Jumper's
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Speaker 3: First question comes from mister Vallejos on Twitter. He says,
Speaker 3: name a wild card player in the first two rounds
Speaker 3: that we may not be considering for the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: wild card pick. Not a normal name, with somebody that
Speaker 3: could maybe sneak up and be in those first two rounds.
Speaker 4: So we just talk about a guy for about twelve minutes,
Speaker 4: somebody who could fall that they wouldn't be expecting, Somebody
Speaker 4: like maybe they like more than we're thinking about.
Speaker 3: Let's let's do this the latter they like more than
Speaker 3: we're thinking about, because I think the fall names are
Speaker 3: have been hit pretty well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I wonder if
Speaker 4: it like in terms of a nay. I feel like
Speaker 4: we've covered pretty much all the ends of this that
Speaker 4: it could possibly go. Because we're the last several years
Speaker 4: we've kind of been in this position of like it's like, well,
Speaker 4: not totally sure which direction they're going. They could go here.
Speaker 4: I guess it would be the one that would catch
Speaker 4: a lot of people off guard that I don't necessarily
Speaker 4: think should like safety, Like if the right safety is
Speaker 4: there in the second round for them, if for some
Speaker 4: reason Nuban falls and they have him grated higher than
Speaker 4: where he's at, Hicks, Bullert Hicks, Jayden Hicks at Washington
Speaker 4: State is a good football player. If Hicks is sitting
Speaker 4: there in the second round for your pick, is that
Speaker 4: a direction where they go, oh, okay, this is value
Speaker 4: that we like or Bullard this is value that we like.
Speaker 4: So I would say that, look at the safeties. Maybe.
Speaker 4: So those are some names. Tyler Nuban at Minnesota, Javon
Speaker 4: Bullard at Georgia, and then Jaden Hicks at Washington State.
Speaker 4: They're talking about second round, right, could be yeah, first
Speaker 4: two rounds is what they said, just names.
Speaker 2: Would you consider powers Johnson a faller considering now nobody
Speaker 2: has him in a mock draft.
Speaker 3: You're talking about to fifty six or to the fifties.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe to twenty four.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't consider it a faller. To twenty four, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna consider it maybe a slight slot, but I wouldn't
Speaker 4: consider that like a fall to me, Like I okay,
Speaker 4: Powers Johnson was around twenty to twenty five, I.
Speaker 2: Usould traded back to Buffalo at twenty eight.
Speaker 9: He is not me.
Speaker 2: Sound like a good gm over there honestly, But you're
Speaker 2: training she's trained back though at twenty eight, and you
Speaker 2: grab him there you go, say you go out of
Speaker 2: the round, say you go down.
Speaker 4: To to get him. If you're able to get able
Speaker 4: to get him in the second, I think that counts
Speaker 4: as a fall for him.
Speaker 2: I don't think you could get him at fifty six,
Speaker 2: but I think you could get him now, whether it's
Speaker 2: maybe you could go to thirty five, you know, if
Speaker 2: you had to go that far.
Speaker 3: I've got a couple of answer the trade scenarios that
Speaker 3: were hitting on the Blitz this week on the TV side,
Speaker 3: I could outline him if I want to, but or
Speaker 3: if we want to, uh, thirty five and thirty six were.
Speaker 2: Two of their guess ability.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 3: Could you get him at thirty five and thirty six?
Speaker 3: Would you feel good about it?
Speaker 2: If I would feel great about it, then I would
Speaker 2: absolutely feel great. And I got to pick up some picks. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go.
Speaker 6: I mean to answer the question.
Speaker 7: I think what would surprise me is if they just said,
Speaker 7: you know what, like if there was a good guard there, yeah,
Speaker 7: and they just was like, all right, we're just going
Speaker 7: to kick Tyler to tackle and we're going to draft
Speaker 7: a guard.
Speaker 6: I think that would be a bit shocking.
Speaker 8: To me if they picked up one of these top
Speaker 8: guards even like, I mean, I don't even know.
Speaker 6: Do you all considered Jordan Morgan is a guard?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 2: That's that's what I think they would considering.
Speaker 6: And that's what I'm saying, like, but I think I think,
Speaker 6: I bet you they.
Speaker 2: Think he's a guard.
Speaker 4: I think he projects better as a guard.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a guy we're not talking about is
Speaker 2: Christian Mahogany as a as a player as Boston College.
Speaker 2: If you're looking for a guard, if you want to kick,
Speaker 2: if you want to kick Tyler Smith outside, you know what,
Speaker 2: that's a legitimate player right there. That is a guy
Speaker 2: that it reminds me so much of. Like I'll never
Speaker 2: forget this watching his tape. They're playing Miami, they're getting crushed,
Speaker 2: they throw an interception, he makes the last tackle the game.
Speaker 2: They're getting crushed in this game. Watch the same game
Speaker 2: and he and he goes. It reminds me of Ron
Speaker 2: Leary when he played it at at Mississippi. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be at Memphis and they're getting just destroyed and he's
Speaker 2: like the best player going for them. Christian Mahogany is
Speaker 2: a really, really good player. If you start talking about
Speaker 2: some of the top guards, I'm throwing him in.
Speaker 8: Yeah, some of that temperament that you see from Tulse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean you got somebody here in your
Speaker 4: building who knows the player. So yeah, I mean just
Speaker 4: spent four years with him. So Mahogany specifically. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: remember Quinn Minors from Wisconsin Whitewater. Yeah, oh man, he.
Speaker 3: Was played a maller, just a bully. Mean, that's what
Speaker 3: I see with Christian Mahogany.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He might have been on me football team. He didn't
Speaker 3: play well or the team didn't play well against Florida State,
Speaker 3: didn't play well against Miami, but he was taking care
Speaker 3: of Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's talking like Bbe and and maybe you're
Speaker 2: gonna shift Lathum and stuff like that. You know, Morgan
Speaker 2: gets shifted, But Christian Mahogany needs to be in that
Speaker 2: mix of players that we really I'm glad. I'm just
Speaker 2: I know why Hesha's knows well, but I just I
Speaker 2: was starting to stack my board a little bit, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, this guy's really good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a player.
Speaker 7: He former DT Yeah, yeah, yeah, he met he talked
Speaker 7: about Yeah. I think that does play into how he
Speaker 7: plays as well. But he, like you said, he does
Speaker 7: have a coach here that has been around him for
Speaker 7: a minute, Bobby, that might yeah, that might vouch for
Speaker 7: him or whatever.
Speaker 6: They got some good eyes on him at the Shrine
Speaker 6: Bowl as well.
Speaker 4: I will also point out because we always assume that,
Speaker 4: like I will say, that may also play against him.
Speaker 4: It may not. But a lot of times we just
Speaker 4: see they were at the same place at the same time,
Speaker 4: and like I default to it a lot too. A
Speaker 4: lot of times you find out, like I remember funny story,
Speaker 4: somebody told me they were talking about love Smith when
Speaker 4: he was in Houston, and everybody kept projecting Kirby Joseph
Speaker 4: at Illinois to go to Houston. And I talked to
Speaker 4: something like that is the last place that would draft
Speaker 4: Kirby Joseph because he and love Smith did not get along.
Speaker 4: They did, and so that's one of those things where
Speaker 4: it's like sometimes it works against you where it either
Speaker 4: it may very like solidified they're not coming here.
Speaker 2: Other times it's like they ran the ball pretty well.
Speaker 2: I think this coach would vouch for him myself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I imagine probably, but it is a big
Speaker 4: part of that. Yeah, if they weren't super interested, that
Speaker 4: also would explain it. Probably because oh they got somebody
Speaker 4: here who's got a testimony about it.
Speaker 3: And you brought this up earlier in the draft process.
Speaker 3: But losing Tyler biatis you lose one of those glass
Speaker 3: eaters on the offensive line. This would be another guy.
Speaker 3: This would be a glass eater that you could rely
Speaker 3: on and can play on the interior.
Speaker 4: Yes, he is all right.
Speaker 3: This one comes from cme tar heeled. Which one's more risky?
Speaker 3: And this goes back to what you just brought up.
Speaker 3: Any tar heel player, any tar Heel player leaving Tyler
Speaker 3: Smith at guard and putting a rookie at right tackle
Speaker 3: and left tackle, or rookie right tackle at left tackle.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. Yeah, man, read that.
Speaker 3: Guys like that they're playing right right or playing right
Speaker 3: tackle in college, but you're putting him at left tackle,
Speaker 3: right or shifting Tyler Smith to left tackle and playing
Speaker 3: either bass or a rookie at left guard. Which one's
Speaker 3: more risky.
Speaker 4: I've seen Tyler Smith play left tackle. I've seen TJ.
Speaker 4: Bass play left card Like, I know they can do that,
Speaker 4: so that to me is not there is a question.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know Tyler Smith can play left guard,
Speaker 4: but you would You'd be the biggest variable you would
Speaker 4: be projecting in that scenario. Is a right tackle rookie
Speaker 4: moving and playing left tackle at the NFL. That's the
Speaker 4: biggest Everything else we have an answer on. We've seen
Speaker 4: it and we can say it works. We know Tyler
Speaker 4: Smith can play left guard. We've seen Tyler Smith play
Speaker 4: left tackle. We've seen TJ. Bass play left guard. Those
Speaker 4: are all things we know. This the only projection there.
Speaker 4: So if you're talking about safeguarding, what is the safest
Speaker 4: thing to do, the safest of those two scenarios would
Speaker 4: be Tyler Smith at left tackle, TJ Bassett left guard,
Speaker 4: yeah to.
Speaker 2: Me, and a rookie center, yeah, or I mean Hoffman.
Speaker 3: Or Hoffman maybe. Yeah. That's a great point. This one
Speaker 3: comes from Michael. He says, would you sacrifice the rest
Speaker 3: of your draft to grab a third round pick, keeping
Speaker 3: your eighty seven, but taking all four of your remaining
Speaker 3: draft picks, the two comp picks at one in the fifth,
Speaker 3: one in the sixth, your seven, two seventh round picks.
Speaker 3: Would you sacrifice all of that to somehow find your
Speaker 3: way back into the third and only have four picks
Speaker 3: on the weekend?
Speaker 6: No, I'm about the I'm about to cry at the idea.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out how to pick up more picks.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to do right now. I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to give up anything. They look as as thin
Speaker 4: as the margins seem to be right now in terms
Speaker 4: of free agency and what you're able to do, like
Speaker 4: you're gonna eat all the picks you can get to
Speaker 4: fill out those roster and find players. And I think
Speaker 4: that they've done such a good job historically of finding
Speaker 4: guys on day three that I don't wanna. I don't
Speaker 4: want to miss that.
Speaker 7: And you're playing ketch up a little bit too, because again,
Speaker 7: there's just so much uncertainty about what you're gonna get
Speaker 7: from your.
Speaker 8: What's up next?
Speaker 3: You're not on you don't have a microphone yet.
Speaker 6: What you're gonna get you.
Speaker 3: Figure it out a long way. No keep going, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 7: I do think also to you are in a weird
Speaker 7: place and the urgency should be high because of the
Speaker 7: lack of production you got from your other class.
Speaker 8: You can't go into this draft class. You can't go
Speaker 8: into this.
Speaker 3: Draft and expect to go four for four on fourth
Speaker 3: picks in the first round.
Speaker 6: You can't go in there sitting on your fingers. I
Speaker 6: can tell you that they better.
Speaker 2: Tell you what if I if I was Houston Texans,
Speaker 2: I would consider something like that, talk about it if
Speaker 2: I was in Houston Texans, because they've had a really
Speaker 2: good offseason adding players.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're questioning chips in and they're in there, and then.
Speaker 2: If they were going to push picks, and then I'm
Speaker 2: betting that they're going to they have a guy in mind,
Speaker 2: they would get making even better right now.
Speaker 3: Because you could probably muster at eighty to eighty five
Speaker 3: selection if you wanted to trade those four picks to
Speaker 3: make it happen.
Speaker 2: The problem is, like say, we've talked about this a
Speaker 2: bunch I usual will tell you this too. A bunch
Speaker 2: of guys went out the door. I got a bunch
Speaker 2: of guys and now your depth, where's your depth? You
Speaker 2: know you're going to need every one of those fifth,
Speaker 2: sixth round picks. I think to kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: get that taken care of, and then you're going to
Speaker 2: have to have the after draft where you're going to
Speaker 2: spend you know, a couple hundred thousand dollars on bonuses
Speaker 2: for some players.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I thought that was a good point that Nick made
Speaker 7: the other day. It's just how Dallas handles, you know,
Speaker 7: post draft and yeah, the DF and how much they
Speaker 7: got you that and they're able to bring guys in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 3: positional resets to do. These are superlatives in the class.
Speaker 3: And I wanna start with Nick on this one deepest
Speaker 3: position group in the entire class. Which which one would
Speaker 3: you go with in the entire draft clubs? One that's
Speaker 3: going to stretch into day three with legitimate talent top
Speaker 3: to bottom.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think you got to look at wide receiver
Speaker 13: right with the talents that are at the top of
Speaker 13: the board, and then you look into day two into
Speaker 13: day three, there's there's so much top end talent, but
Speaker 13: then I really feel like there's some value there on
Speaker 13: day three. We've talked about some guys earlier in the process.
Speaker 13: Guy like Josh Cephis out of Utsa. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 13: big body type receiver that you could probably get in
Speaker 13: the sixth or seventh round and which is kind of
Speaker 13: wild to to look at and see. But you look
Speaker 13: at Jalen Kocher out of Holy Cross, that's another interesting
Speaker 13: receiver that you feel like you could get. You talked
Speaker 13: talked about Jawan Jackson the other day out of two Lane.
Speaker 13: He's probably earlier day three, But I mean those are
Speaker 13: the types of talents that I think you'll be able
Speaker 13: to hit on once Saturday rolls around.
Speaker 7: Yeah. For me, it will be corner, I mean to
Speaker 7: second to second receiver, our receiver. Yeah, man, I mean
Speaker 7: you start looking at corner. I think some of these
Speaker 7: guys will be.
Speaker 6: Here, maybe like Jerry and Jones later cam Hart, some
Speaker 6: of these guys, I don't think. I mean, even we
Speaker 6: it sounds crazy, but even talking about Quanta.
Speaker 7: Stickers, I think he's going to be a player, but
Speaker 7: he might be available in some of these later rounds.
Speaker 7: I think corner stretches into that fourth round, beginning of
Speaker 7: the fifth round, where you you should be able to
Speaker 7: get some equality guy in there and at least give
Speaker 7: you some contribution right away at the very least on
Speaker 7: special teams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of on the opposite side, Bobby, what about
Speaker 3: most underrated position in the draft?
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny, we're just we're just talking about
Speaker 4: it a little bit because I think, you know, we
Speaker 4: were talking about frustrations. I like the running back depth
Speaker 4: outside of the first round, I do. I like, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I like some of the running I've got a cluster
Speaker 4: of running backs like in the third round that I
Speaker 4: like and guys that stretch into the fourth. So I
Speaker 4: think that running back typically has been one of these
Speaker 4: positions that when you you you can find a good
Speaker 4: one on Day three, and I think that's really similar
Speaker 4: this year. It's not very top heavy at all. But
Speaker 4: if if you're talking about I think the lack of
Speaker 4: a first round pop name has had a lot of
Speaker 4: people talking down on the class overall. But I think
Speaker 4: there's there's good depth there where I think you're potentially
Speaker 4: going to be grabbing guys on day three that you
Speaker 4: have a round higher graded than where you're picking them.
Speaker 3: Who are some of those names that you had that
Speaker 3: you were talking about that cluster of guys.
Speaker 4: I mean, so in the third round, I've got estimate,
Speaker 4: I've got Lloyd, I've got Irving, I've got quorum, I've
Speaker 4: got right. I mean, I think you look at Grendo
Speaker 4: at Louisville like I mean, there's a bunch of different
Speaker 4: guys here that I'm a big fan of, the Clemson
Speaker 4: guy like him. There's just a good stack of running
Speaker 4: backs to me that on day two, day three you're
Speaker 4: going to be able to find good value for There's
Speaker 4: just a cluster of them that, you know, I think
Speaker 4: they're going to stretch a little bit. Guys that will
Speaker 4: have in the third round, I think are going to
Speaker 4: go on the fourth. Guys having the fourth going the
Speaker 4: fifth Will Shipley by the way, Cli yes Shipley.
Speaker 6: How did you guys feel? Abou Kamani Vido.
Speaker 3: Troy interesting prospect. I think he's late Day three but
Speaker 3: still a guy. I mean, he's got some weaponry to him.
Speaker 3: You know, he's got some speed. He's another one of
Speaker 3: those smaller backs that you you think could maybe provide
Speaker 3: a bit of a jolt. I mean it's only five seven.
Speaker 7: Because that's the thing about some of these guys that
Speaker 7: are later that you were talking about, Bobby, is like you,
Speaker 7: you look at some of the size with some of them,
Speaker 7: and that maybe that's something that's deters you because a
Speaker 7: couple of guys like that.
Speaker 3: Ammi Bailey from TCU, Vital.
Speaker 7: From Troy George Jordan Louisville can play, but the size
Speaker 7: is something that maybe is the reason why they would
Speaker 7: be there.
Speaker 6: But to your point, though, Bobby, I do think that
Speaker 6: there are some guys that can be there later decad
Speaker 6: I wish Bailey would have run better, Amani.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the times were not great on Bailey. That was
Speaker 4: a little disappointed. But also like a combine no here
Speaker 4: and uh here at the star at the big twelve combine.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, because I mean that's your that size.
Speaker 4: You got to be faster than four six and so.
Speaker 4: But now I think even they're smaller guys, even in
Speaker 4: the guys we're talking about in the second third round, Like,
Speaker 4: I mean, Korum's smaller, you know, Irving, Like You've got
Speaker 4: these different guys that are they're on the smaller.
Speaker 2: End, Ray Davis.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: But the power, the power that appeal you with Bailey?
Speaker 4: No, it does, it does. Still, I mean who's who Okay,
Speaker 4: specifically here in Dallas, who's my like home run guy
Speaker 4: then right now? Yeah, Like I mean period, and that's
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's I mean, just right now you're
Speaker 4: dealing with like you know, you're dealing with a lot
Speaker 4: of power. There's not a lot of home run right now.
Speaker 10: That's sir.
Speaker 13: I think the thing with the money Bailey, if they
Speaker 13: were to take a leap on a guy like that,
Speaker 13: they probably need to draft a power back earlier in
Speaker 13: the draft. Like that would be a situation where they're
Speaker 13: comfortable going in taking two backs in the draft and
Speaker 13: he's probably the second one that they take on Day
Speaker 13: three or if he is up undrafted. That's that's an
Speaker 13: interesting guy that you would probably look at.
Speaker 3: Okay, Brian, what do you think about underrated positions?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm kind of looking right now at cornerback
Speaker 2: when I when I start, because I know my board
Speaker 2: you know, I start to get down into the fourth
Speaker 2: and fifth round, there's some guys that I absolutely uh
Speaker 2: would be okay playing with. I know that I've talked
Speaker 2: about my love for King from Penn State, Abrams, Drain
Speaker 2: from Missouri, you know, uh Jackson there, There's there's several
Speaker 2: of these guys. Melton another one that I really really like.
Speaker 2: I feel like though that that it's kind of you
Speaker 2: see the top of the draft and and we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens with Wiggins. I know that Arnold Mitchell, those
Speaker 2: guys Djon, well, they'll they'll probably go Tampa. He didn't
Speaker 2: run great here out for you guys at the Pro
Speaker 2: day stuff, but there's.
Speaker 4: Shuttle times were good though. Yeah, there's some stuff. There's
Speaker 4: still some stuff that you can extract.
Speaker 2: Top of it is like they've got some players and
Speaker 2: this I think this thing stretches into the third, fourth,
Speaker 2: fifth round. I think so if if I had to
Speaker 2: if I had to say, okay, well, best available player,
Speaker 2: best player on my board, it might be because I
Speaker 2: know we're going to get into the draft and it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: who do you guys guy as your best player? And
Speaker 2: I have a feeling there's gonna be either it's either
Speaker 2: gonna be a corner on my board. It might even
Speaker 2: be an edge, might be another guy that kind of
Speaker 2: comes in the guards we've talked about. We mentioned Mahogany
Speaker 2: and those guys and then wide receiver. So I just
Speaker 2: have a feeling it's going to be, Okay, who's your
Speaker 2: best guy on the board, It'll be one of that
Speaker 2: position group because that seems pretty thick between round four,
Speaker 2: five and six for me.
Speaker 3: You mentioned ed rusher. I feel like that's the same
Speaker 3: scenario of running back without that top heavy just mauler
Speaker 3: of a name. You've got a lot too at the
Speaker 3: top from UCLA. You've got Jared First from Florida State,
Speaker 3: But neither one of those guys are the Aiden Hutchinson's,
Speaker 3: the Trayvon Walkers of the world that were just dominating
Speaker 3: draft storylines. I think it's an underrated position because you've
Speaker 3: got plenty of talented ed rushers top to bottom that
Speaker 3: can make an impact. I'm looking down at like the
Speaker 3: Murphy brothers from UCLA. Yeah, those are two guys that
Speaker 3: will make an NFL team, could make an NFL roster
Speaker 3: as rookies and find their way into playing time. As rookies.
Speaker 3: Mo Kamara from Colorado State is another guy you could
Speaker 3: get in the middle rounds that that could be an
Speaker 3: impact player.
Speaker 2: Caesar from Houston.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nelson fascinating talent, really good player.
Speaker 13: Between him and David Ugle Eggbow at Houston, both of
Speaker 13: those guys coming out of edge rushers. Yeah, he's got
Speaker 13: something going down there. If you were Jalb Hunt as
Speaker 13: a Houston Christian edge rusher. Yes, that's another one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I look, I mean I like me some Logan
Speaker 7: le too. I like some of what I saw from
Speaker 7: him Iowa, Yeah, in from Iowa. Some of the things
Speaker 7: he was able to do at the Senior Bowl, just
Speaker 7: how quick his get off is and how he can
Speaker 7: redirect people. I think he's a guy that might be
Speaker 7: there in the later rounds too. That are that's still interesting,
Speaker 7: that's still intriguing as a player that you might take
Speaker 7: a chance on.
Speaker 9: For sure.
Speaker 2: You know the thing that you guys were reporting on
Speaker 2: at Dallas Cowboys dot com or all these linebackers too,
Speaker 2: they're there. And maybe that's positions not as deep. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's surely not as top heavy, but maybe in the
Speaker 2: rounds two, three, and four, it seems like, to me,
Speaker 2: the names that you guys report they're hunting, they're hunting
Speaker 2: that position right now and trying to kind of get
Speaker 2: that in order by bringing those guys in and then
Speaker 2: stacking them the way like, Okay, this guy's got this trade,
Speaker 2: this guy's got this trade. You get the interviews, you know,
Speaker 2: the coaches with him and all that, they'll figure all
Speaker 2: this out. But that seems like a position they're hunting
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 6: I don't think you can sit on your hands with
Speaker 6: the linebup, no class.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's that's probably a position. I feel
Speaker 13: like though, it's probably gonna come down to either D
Speaker 13: tackle or linebacker that you get on day two because
Speaker 13: the expectation offensive line round one. You got to get
Speaker 13: the running back somewhere on day two, so the other
Speaker 13: pick you're either gonna have to spend on a D
Speaker 13: tackle or linebacker.
Speaker 3: You would have had a whole lot of fun in
Speaker 3: our first second.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were, We're about to tell me something. I
Speaker 4: just told you, y'all.
Speaker 2: Just no, you went through that scenario basically, Yeah, yeah, Well,
Speaker 2: if you had the extra three say that, then you
Speaker 2: would you what position would you pick up if you
Speaker 2: had the extra pick.
Speaker 13: Yeah, the other one then that do tackle linebacker for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, weakest position in the draft class. This one's kind
Speaker 3: of tough.
Speaker 2: One technique really just I think knowses. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I usual was talking about it that we just don't
Speaker 2: play that way anymore, you know that to have the
Speaker 2: guys like Sweat and Fisk and Jackson Mason Smith. Mason
Speaker 2: Smith was a five star if I'm right, nick, five
Speaker 2: star recruit, and he didn't play like a five star recruit,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 13: I mean, this has hurt him quite a bit, but
Speaker 13: it's still to the point whenever he took it on
Speaker 13: the field, it was different than what was expected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was he was supposed to be this highly
Speaker 2: touted type player and he did not play that way.
Speaker 2: But I I I'm having I'm having a hard time
Speaker 2: right now finding me a one. I really am about the.
Speaker 4: Guard class one technique to get into. I don't like
Speaker 4: the tight ends.
Speaker 3: I don't either.
Speaker 4: Powers is good, but I mean, you know, some people
Speaker 4: feel a little too small. I'm not a fan of
Speaker 4: Theo Johnson, not a fan of Stover even.
Speaker 3: Though so I like I like Jaheim Bell, I like
Speaker 3: Kate Sonat or Ben Sonnat rather stover guys.
Speaker 4: The guys that I like would be uh like Bowers
Speaker 4: snat Jared Wiley, Like, I mean that's kind of and
Speaker 4: I mean even still, like I mean, there's there's there's
Speaker 4: questions there, and I mean, like I think there is
Speaker 4: it blow people, but I mean I think there's a
Speaker 4: decent chance, Like the second tight end off the board
Speaker 4: is Jared Wiley.
Speaker 13: Yeah, don't be surprised if that happened. Yeah, absolutely, no,
Speaker 13: that's fair and I.
Speaker 4: Think in most tight end classes that would not be
Speaker 4: the case.
Speaker 7: But I agree with you is that we're also in
Speaker 7: this weird place with tight end to me as well,
Speaker 7: where it used to be you want guys that can
Speaker 7: block in line, they gotta have a bigger body whatever
Speaker 7: and now, but a lot of these guys are receiver
Speaker 7: esque and.
Speaker 8: So it takes away from their blocking and some of
Speaker 8: the things they can do.
Speaker 6: So it's to your point.
Speaker 7: I feel the same way about a lot of d
Speaker 7: ns too. It's like some of them they're rushing the passion,
Speaker 7: but it doesn't mean they're able to shed and tackle
Speaker 7: consistently either. It's kind of like a trickle down effect.
Speaker 7: So when you talk about the tight end position.
Speaker 6: I agree.
Speaker 8: I feel like it's either this or that with a
Speaker 8: lot of them.
Speaker 7: Some of them have some athleticism that stands out to you,
Speaker 7: but then you're like, Okay, but the baby you getting
Speaker 7: ran over by this d N right.
Speaker 6: Now, so it's up and down.
Speaker 7: I do like a I think like a Tanner McLachlan
Speaker 7: as a Arizona is a guy that has a little
Speaker 7: bit of both to where you can work with him.
Speaker 7: I watched Eric all the other day, and I know
Speaker 7: his body is toe up as a weapon.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought him up. He's still with that
Speaker 2: back injury. He had the surgery and stuff on that
Speaker 2: and something you're going to completely have to deal with.
Speaker 2: But I agree, I was I'm glad you brought him up.
Speaker 9: Eric.
Speaker 2: He transferred from Michigan so that you could now about
Speaker 2: drafting a Michigan player. You don't have to worry about
Speaker 2: that you're drafting an Iowa player. So yeah, but this
Speaker 2: is there's a versatility to his game. He plays like
Speaker 2: an athlete at six four, two hundred and fifty two pounds.
Speaker 2: When you watch him play, the movement I mean, you
Speaker 2: talk about the movement he gets coming off the ball,
Speaker 2: pretty impressive there, Eric All.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just whenever you look at the tight end position,
Speaker 3: I'm looking at brock Bauers up top. I like Jatavian
Speaker 3: Sanders from Texas too.
Speaker 4: I think he's like the upside.
Speaker 3: There is upside there, But then it's just a bunch
Speaker 3: of guys. That's just kind of where it's at with
Speaker 3: the position. There's a significant you talked about it a
Speaker 3: little bit there, Nick, whenever you're saying top to bottom
Speaker 3: from Catstover to Jared Wiley, it could be However, many
Speaker 3: picks in between, they could go anywhere in the third,
Speaker 3: third round on.
Speaker 4: I will say I think that when I say Wiley
Speaker 4: second off the world, it's because I think most I
Speaker 4: think most teams are going to have Wiley above Sanders.
Speaker 3: He thinks most.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Wow.
Speaker 3: Both of them are guys that played two ways in
Speaker 3: high school, so it's different, you know, Like they're both
Speaker 3: raw at the position.
Speaker 4: So was Quentin Johnston's quarterback.
Speaker 7: But I do think Jeane Bell is going to rise
Speaker 7: because people are looking for Deebo esque feel and I
Speaker 7: think he can do some of that stuff as well.
Speaker 7: So I'm like, yeah, this class is different, This tight
Speaker 7: end class is different.
Speaker 6: How does it compare to last year's se y'all?
Speaker 13: Last year's much much more time, much stronger lets stronger
Speaker 13: of both the.
Speaker 4: Top in talent.
Speaker 13: Last year's class, I think once you got into late
Speaker 13: day two, early day three, though, you were kind of
Speaker 13: reaching in certain points, like there were a couple of
Speaker 13: teams I'd hit I can't think off the top of
Speaker 13: my head, But it was the top end talent that
Speaker 13: really made the tight end class one.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean you're you're hearing guys in prospects talk about
Speaker 3: guys that they modeled their game after. And one of
Speaker 3: the names is Sam la Porter. He was a rookie
Speaker 3: last year. Yeah, that's how impactful that rookie class was
Speaker 3: a year.
Speaker 2: But is right too about Bell? They hand him the
Speaker 2: ball on reverses and stuff like that in the open field.
Speaker 2: I mean, the guys, the guy's got some legitimate talent
Speaker 2: running with the ball, catching the ball as well.
Speaker 3: All right, we got to get out of here. It
Speaker 3: was good having you for the last year.
Speaker 13: I feel like I'm about to sing a song, Like
Speaker 13: I'm just standing over this mic.
Speaker 3: What would your song choice beak?
Speaker 4: No, there's a reason.
Speaker 3: He would put us all the shame for Nick Harris,
Speaker 3: for Bobby Bell, Bryan brought us for Aisha Morrison and
Speaker 3: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yoman saying so long,
Speaker 3: we will see you next week on the Draft Show.
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