1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: room for inseter news and draft analysis from deep within 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: Today is Thursday, April fourth, twenty twenty three, and we 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: are officially three weeks out twenty one days to the 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan. As we welcome you in 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: to the Draft Show presented by Miller Light, a taste 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: you can depend on. We are running out of time, 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: everybody is. The draft is quickly approaching. Thirty visits currently 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: happening across the hallway from where we sit here at 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: the Star in Frisco. And of course we've got plenty 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 3: to talk about with some positional resets. Today we've got 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: Aisha Morrison, Brian brought us Bobby Belt back in the 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: fold today. I'm Kyle Yeoman's Bobby. Welcome back to the show. 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 4: Thank you. 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 2: You're pretty busy. 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 4: Phones, I have headphones on. I don't normally get the 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 4: headphones because I'm usually posting up right here. And I 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 4: also feel like completely inconsistent because I got the Plano 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 4: East had on today. I like it. But then I've 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 4: got Marcus Schwartz, I've got competing high schools on here. 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 4: And then I'm gonna go watch Keller softball tomorrow. 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: Are you really Yeah, big big Keller softball. 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: They invited us out. They were like, hey, we got 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 4: a big game against Southake, would you guys mind coming out? 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: I was like, sure, I'll go. So I'm going to 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: see Keller High school softball. The man of the people, 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 4: that's what I try to be. Yeah, you are, that's 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: casting a wide net, Brian. 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: I'd about to say that, Yeah. 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: It's funny. 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: I've met, among other things, I've. 36 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: Had phone calls with some of the admin with Tarlton 37 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: State and they talked about you guys and your impact 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: with you and Choppy and all of the trips out 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: to Stevenville. 40 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: I left a negative impact in a lot of ways 41 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: as Stephenville, I think. But it was a party. It 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: was a good time, got the people talking. Hey, I 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: enjoyed it. I love Tarleton, Go Texans, steven. 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: Field, greatest place on God's Green Earth. There there you go. 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: Cowboy country real, it is real, Cowboy Country no doubt 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: about it. I'll be out there Sunday for baseball. By 47 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: the way, you want to make great line. You want 48 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: to come out. 49 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: Maybe what we gotta going on? It's Saturday. I got 50 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: a party Friday, I got softball Sunday. Nothing's felling. Oh wait, 51 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: I may have actually have Mavericks tickets right. 52 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I already. 53 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: I loved Tarleton. Yeah, big Charltonton baseball guys. 54 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: Would coordinate some other things going on here. 55 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: I mean you want to go with us, You're you're 56 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: all about road trips. 57 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: No, I do love the Feature of Strength, though, I 58 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: do love it. I'd like driving to the Senior Bowl. 59 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: I know you want to. You want to make those 60 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: like thirteen hour drives. 61 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: All Beam and I are we're all about the feat 62 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: of Strength. 63 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course we're all the driving. 64 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 5: You give us an r V, we will take it 65 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 5: anywhere you want to have to go. 66 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: I've been trying to talk Brass into having the r 67 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 3: V trips for the last four years. It's it's just 68 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: it hasn't happened. You think the there. 69 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: I think the RV trip would be fun if you 70 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: covered a couple of really prominent pro days. 71 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure. 72 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: You know if you actually were able there to go 73 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: in there and you hit say you hit A, you 74 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: hit Alabama and then you hit Georgia or you know, 75 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: you hit something in the South, you know you could 76 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: do We did Texas and Texas, A and M one time, 77 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: which was really cool when Johnny Manziel was involved, and 78 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: you get a lot of you get a lot of 79 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: really good information being out there on the road. 80 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: Do you run routes for Johnny No? 81 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: I stood behind the barrier and watched him throw routes. 82 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, to people who were not even receivers. 83 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: Necessarily he may have to run around. 84 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 4: No, No, that was the the Johnny would remember. That's 85 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: his agent, Eric Burkhart. 86 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: Brian's gonna have to run routes for Josh Allen and 87 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills pretty soon too. How about that they 88 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: don't have anything going on out there? 89 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: Man? 90 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: Well, no, wait, that might be a good thing for 91 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: you Dallas Cowboys if you think about that trade up. 92 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: You know, but we're all we've talked about these wide 93 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: receivers since January. You know, it might be where people 94 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: are gonna and I know we're going to get into 95 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: depth of positions, but that might be something you keep 96 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: an eye. 97 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: On, No doubt the trade yesterday Stephan Diggs going to 98 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: the Texans and really now you've got Buffalo that is 99 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: pigeonholed into taking a first round wide receiver, and if 100 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: they want to move up a couple of spots, I 101 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: think that would be a significant trade down option for 102 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. Speaking on the Cowboys, though reported thirty visits, 103 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: we talked through a number of names on Tuesday. A 104 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: couple other names that have come out since then. This 105 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: is straight off of Nick Harris's Twitter of Nick Nick 106 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: not here today, he's across the hall doing an interview, 107 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: but we've got some names to go through. Matt Gonclaves 108 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: from Pittsburgh the offensive tackle. We talked about some of 109 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: these linebackers, including Nathaniel Watson, Jordan McGee, Payton Wilson, which 110 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: was reported by Brian Edrian Cooper, Trevin Wallace from Kentucky. 111 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: Then you've got Byron Murphy reported by Ryan Fowler. The 112 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 3: Texas defensive tackles. Ali is it Ali Ali? 113 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 114 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: Ali Wash the Marshall running back reported by our very 115 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: own Dame Brugler. Then Malachai Corley receiver out of Western 116 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: Kentucky when comes from CBS. But when you're looking at 117 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: these names, aisha, which ones stick out to you of 118 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: the names that were reported this past week. 119 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 6: I mean stick out. 120 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 7: I think I don't know if he's gonna be there, 121 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 7: but I think Byron Murphy he. 122 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 6: Sticks out to me. And only the reason why. 123 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 7: Is because he is a He's a local, like he's 124 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 7: from here, and I think we've seen the Cowboys have 125 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 7: a little bit of an infatuation with some of the 126 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 7: guys that are local. You think about even a Tyler Smith, 127 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 7: he's a Footworth Native and seeing him, you know, become 128 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 7: somebody that maybe they're interested in. It's also interesting about 129 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 7: Malachai Corley, how he's really risen his stock this off 130 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 7: season and how he's been able to kind of climb 131 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 7: people's bors and get people's attention, especially coming from a 132 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 7: school like Western Kentucky. I think it just says a 133 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 7: lot about his progress and what he's capable of as 134 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 7: a player. Because if you don't have him pretty high 135 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 7: on your board right now, you're probably a little wrong. 136 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 7: So yeah, those two gentlemen stand out the most to me. 137 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 8: What you got Bobby Corley. 138 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: Is the one because Corley. I mean, obviously, we see 139 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: a lot of different like running backs and offensive linemen 140 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: and different people that they've brought in different positions that 141 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 4: they brought in. Corley being the only receiver on the 142 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: list in a very deep class I think is interesting 143 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: to me. Whether that's because it stands out as somebody 144 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: that they're really really high on, or potentially just that's 145 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 4: somebody they feel they need answers on compared to the 146 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: rest of the draft class. But I mean, I love 147 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 4: Malachi Courtley fun and in fact, he's receiver. We talked 148 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 4: about this Brandon, I think it's seven. He's receiver seven 149 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 4: for me. Wow, and second round. So I really like 150 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: Malachi Corley and think he's a whole lot of fun 151 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: and I think within this offense he could do a 152 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: lot of damage, and so he's really interesting to me. 153 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 4: I love that one. And then obviously, I mean the 154 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 4: fact that they're bringing in somebody like Peyton Wilson and 155 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: just you know, being able to get a check on 156 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: the medicals. 157 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: There and everything else. 158 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 6: That's definitely why they brought him in. They definitely like, 159 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 6: let us get a. 160 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: Peak, extra peak at Peyton Wilson. I love malakat Corey. 161 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: I don't know Corley, I don't know if he's necessarily 162 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: a top ten receiver in the draft. For me, I 163 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: just I can't put him against like Worthy and Maconkie, Coleman, Lagette, 164 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: Roman Wilson, Piersoll. These are all guys that I think 165 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: are in the same conversation. 166 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: Man, I have him on top of all those guests, 167 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: I think on the yack Kingky. 168 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they call him the yack King. I just I 169 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: worry about the size a little bit. 170 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. This son of a gun though. 171 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: Man. 172 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: But he has got a running backs mentality, the way 173 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: he carries the ball and like you you throw him 174 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: the ball, he is going to run through people, run 175 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: over people. Uh, you know, he's a tough guy and 176 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: so to me. And but you're you're talking about when 177 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: all those names of the guys you had, they've all 178 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: got that trait. They've all I mean, I'm sure they're 179 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: on everybody's board. Everybody has Coraley, McConkie from Georgia, Worthy 180 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: from Texas, pearsal Pearsall from Florida. Is a fun watch. Yes, 181 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: you know, Roman Wilson from Michigan. They're all kinds what 182 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: are the same in that regard of throwing the ball, 183 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: big play. 184 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 7: Which is I mean, which is gonna be helpful to 185 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 7: me when you look a lot of these guys to 186 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 7: me are chess pieces, I guess you can say. And 187 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 7: also too, they can be an extension of your backfield 188 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 7: in certain ways, like when you mentioned Okay, like he 189 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 7: can do running back things. 190 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 6: You can use these guys in the screen game. 191 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 7: You can use these guys on the outside and do 192 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 7: some creative things with them. A lot of these gentlemen, 193 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 7: to include Malchy like, they're. 194 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 8: Not just I'm a wide receiver. 195 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 7: Oh, you can use them in certain different elements and 196 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 7: they a lot of them have the ability to play 197 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 7: inside and outside and so I. 198 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 8: It's this class is it's crazy because. 199 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 7: Last year is my first time doing a draft obviously, 200 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 7: but to see the difference in this class in last 201 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 7: year's class, where I felt like there weren't that many 202 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 7: of these guys in that draft and if there was 203 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 7: a guy like these guys, they went early and people 204 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 7: got a hold of them really quickly. 205 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 9: Yeah. 206 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: And when you're talking about Malakai Corley specifically, it's the 207 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: limited route tree, which is a knock against them. Western 208 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: Kentucky didn't. 209 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 8: Really util Yes, it was the utilization. 210 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: WKU didn't use him in that way. They said, chuck 211 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: it up, go make a big play, have fun, run 212 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: past everybody, and be the yak king is what they 213 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: called him at Western Kentucky. But you mentioned inside outside versatility, 214 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 3: I think he's limited to the slot. Do you think 215 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: he can play outside if you're going to put him 216 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: up there? 217 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: Look, I mean I think that a lot of what 218 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: he does here, Like when we talk about the limited 219 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: route tree and stuff like that, it's because a lot 220 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: of his game is going to be like, you know, 221 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: just quick, get the ball in his hands. And so 222 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: I mean, whether that's smoke routes on the outside or 223 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: whatever it is. I think he can become a better 224 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: route runner than he currently is. I think he's a 225 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: good route runner, but I think there's definitely room for improvement. 226 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: And to me, the biggest thing with him, and something 227 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 4: that he'll see on the outside a lot too, is 228 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 4: is he always finishing? You know, contested catches, is the 229 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 4: fifty to fifty stuff breaking his way and a lot 230 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: of times it's not. And so if you get somebody 231 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: who's particularly sticky somebody who's playing, you know, really physical 232 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 4: with him that can slow him down at times. That's why, 233 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's honestly the thing that keeps him 234 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: from being like a first round receiver for me. Yeah, 235 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: but I mean I really like the growth potential for him? 236 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 8: How do you navigate that? 237 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 6: Like, and I'm asking as far as. 238 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 7: When you look at a program and you look at usage, 239 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 7: how do you guys? I'm asking you guys, like, how 240 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 7: do you navigate seeing that a guy's usage or the 241 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 7: way that they played him and within a system, how 242 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 7: does that tie into some of your decisions on where 243 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 7: you rank him? Because to your point, we clearly know 244 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 7: that Western Kentucky is not doing a whole munch exotic 245 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 7: things offensively. How do you guys be like, Okay, well, 246 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 7: I can see this guy doing this distance. 247 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 8: What steps do you take to evaluate that? 248 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I think you can see just about anything 249 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: you want to see in flashes. It's obviously just the 250 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 4: sample size, Like how much of a sample size do 251 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 4: you have? So then it's the application of Okay, what 252 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: am I projecting out in terms of the flashes that 253 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: I have or the limited available you know, the limited 254 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: available data and then also to you know, putting it 255 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: in some cases against athletic testing or whatever else, the 256 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: combine it and saying well, I think you can just Schoonmaker, 257 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: for instance, was a guy who's not asked to do 258 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: a lot of the things that you would have wanted 259 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 4: him to do here in Dallas in Michigan, and so 260 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: you just found flashes of it, and then you tried 261 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 4: to say, Okay, you know the the athletic testing with 262 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 4: the three cone and the ten yard splits and other 263 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 4: little things like how do you couple that and say, well, 264 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 4: I think I can project out that he can do 265 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: these things here. I assume that he can do this, 266 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 4: or in flashes you see it here, in small sample size, 267 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 4: you see it here. So I mean it's just a projection. 268 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: It's the same thing we used to run into. The 269 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 4: guy I always think of where it's like you're having 270 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 4: to project out is Corey Coleman like that. Coleman was 271 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 4: a guy like that coming out of Baylor, where it's 272 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: like that Baylor who's not asked to do very much and. 273 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really limited. You had to project. 274 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: Down a little bit. Yeah, Similarly, you had to project 275 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: out on a guy, the best player in football, and 276 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: now you had to project out with Mahomes, Like there 277 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: were questions about like what was Mahomes going to be 278 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 4: asked to do at the NFL level and was he 279 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 4: capable of it? And that's some some of that stuff 280 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: you're not going to know, and that's why scouts are 281 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: scouts and why they're pared to paid to do what 282 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 4: they do. We're projecting out a lot more than what 283 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: they're Surgeon House shows. 284 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 3: Man. 285 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: I watched him play against Ohio State. He was good 286 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 2: in that game, and I'm thinking, like, Okay, if he's 287 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: playing good against Ohio State, who puts twenty five guys 288 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: in the NFL every year, it seems like, you know, 289 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,359 Speaker 2: we we kind of got that with watching that quarterback 290 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: last year Ohio State, you know, when they played Georgia 291 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: and you know all the matchups and stuff like draft. 292 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 6: So the competition is something as well. 293 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: I think it's something because you know, like I say, 294 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: Louisiana tach Florida Atlantic, Sure, but Ohio State, you know, 295 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: you hunt those games, you hunt those games, and you 296 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 2: know the. 297 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: Fact that you remember Shawn Slater against Chase Young, that 298 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: was that was a game like you measure that, you go, o, hey, 299 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: what did Slater look like when he got Chase across 300 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: from and he handled them? 301 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I grew up in a system where it 302 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: was always about the Florida State Miami game was always 303 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 2: huge in the early nineties, and it was that was 304 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: like the first tape you started with. When any either team, 305 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: you're like, okay, good on, good here. And then if 306 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: you get a small school guy, fortunately he goes to 307 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl, then you start to look at the 308 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: drills there and you're like, okay, how does he handle 309 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: the drills? You know, Western Kentucky getting covered by Michigan 310 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 2: or getting covered by Alabama or getting Yeah, and he. 311 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: Was named the top receiver. 312 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 8: That's what and a blender. 313 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: You know. I think we could all say this about 314 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: Doron Bland now and I've said it before, and I 315 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: believe you guys would agree with me, because you guys 316 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: study tape just as hard as I do. That Pac 317 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: twelve missed Deron Blaine. We just call it Fresno. Nothing 318 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: a gets Fresno. Sometimes these kids end up in places 319 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: and you're like, how do you end up at Western Kentucky? 320 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: You know, why wasn't Why wasn't Why wasn't Vanderbilt in 321 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: on this? Why wasn't Kentucky in on this? Why wasn't 322 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: Tennessee in on this one? You know, and sometimes you 323 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: have to question that. But I you know, I look 324 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: at him and call you asked the question about slot only. 325 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: His measurements are five eleven two point fifteen. 326 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 4: He's wide. 327 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thinking, like, just get him the damn ball. 328 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 2: I don't care how you know, that's that's how I mean. 329 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: It's coaches jobs to figure this out. And you're if 330 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: you're saying inside only, and I'm like, cool, you can 331 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: still get him the ball, but get him the damn ball. 332 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: I mean I used to put him in the backfield. 333 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: Bobby put him out wide. You know, but when you 334 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: watch the tape of this guy, I can understand why 335 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: the Cowboys did this because or bringing him in. This 336 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: kid's got a lot of toughness, and they for the 337 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: last couple of playoffs they've dealt with having that guy 338 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: in San Francisco. You know that you're starting to see 339 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: more of that. You're starting to see more of these 340 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: receivers that have they're big, they catch and they're like 341 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: running backs. In the open field, just blistering people. 342 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: He mentioned Deebo Samuel and his Senior Bowl interviews. 343 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, at the same time, that's who he gets compared 344 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 4: to most often as like the high end projection and 345 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: and Debo was the same. 346 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: How South Carolina that there's there's the school, there's the school. Yeah, 347 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: that's the same thing. But we're starting to see college 348 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: programs get these guys involved. This guy was a college 349 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: He was originally a cornerback, a corner back, and they 350 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: moved him to wide receiver. We've seen a couple of 351 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: those guys get shifted to other positions and now they're 352 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: thriving that way. 353 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and you mentioned the Senior Bowl. Honestly, 354 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 7: when you talk about the route running Bobby, the Senior 355 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 7: Bowl answer some of those questions for me about him too, 356 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 7: because it didn't matter. And I understand that you know, 357 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 7: one on ones that dvs are at a disadvantage in 358 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 7: some areas, but it didn't matter who was on him 359 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 7: in those drills. 360 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 6: He made some of our top corners that we like 361 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 6: look stupid. 362 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 7: He was literally saying by to them when he was 363 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 7: coming out of his releases. I do think guys do 364 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 7: have the opportunity before they go to these camps and 365 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 7: stuff to improve. And I think he showed some things 366 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 7: in the Senior Bowl that would make me more encouraged 367 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 7: about his route running as well. 368 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's another part of it that is really 369 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 4: helpful in the process of like what you're trying to 370 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: project out is those drills and stuff, but like you 371 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: point out, like the corners already disadvantaged a lot of 372 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: times in those drills and like I mean the one 373 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 4: that I was come back to of like you can 374 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: gain a lot from seeing it. You always talk you 375 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: guys always talk about the Zach Martin, Aaron Donald, the 376 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: matchups and what you're able to get out of that. 377 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: At Senior Bowl. The guy, the guy that I always 378 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: go back to is like, here's a cautionary tale too 379 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: of like don't buy into it too much or wait 380 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 4: it probably remember Braxton Miller. Yeah, And Braxton Miller was 381 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: considered like, oh my gosh, nobody can handle him when 382 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: he you know, he had all these highlight reel like 383 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: situations against corners where it's like he's making corners mad 384 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 4: and they're like wanting to fight him in these practices 385 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: just because of his footwork and what he's doing, and 386 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: then it came out and it doesn't hit the same way. 387 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 4: So I think it's definitely like it's all part of 388 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: the the entire information gathering process. And that's why it's 389 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: it's such a big job. That's why I mean, the 390 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: guys in this building, they're they're grinding eleven months out 391 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: of the year, like I mean, really putting in work 392 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: that goes more than just this three months that people 393 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: are really aware of it. 394 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 9: Right. 395 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: It's such an interesting process, top to bottom, And that's 396 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: why it is a process. It's not we're not just 397 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: grading off of games in film and then taking these 398 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: guys into the NFL. You want an extra look along 399 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: the way, since we're talking about Corley and he's the 400 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: one wide receiver that's been reported as a thirty visit, 401 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: how early would you be okay with Dallas taking a 402 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 3: wide receiver? Would you would you be fine with a receiver? 403 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 3: I I know first round is more of like a 404 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 3: if a guy falls, but let's say nobody falls in 405 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: the first round. 406 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: Where would you be okay with the first Can I 407 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: ask a question to take it a little further? Sure, 408 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: would you take a running back or a receiver, if 409 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: they were equal, equal on your board, equal, I would 410 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: take a running back. If they're even on the board, 411 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 2: I'm taking a tailbag. Like you got to say, you 412 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: have Corley as your seventh best player, Bobby, and you're 413 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: looking at Benson from Florida State maybe as that. 414 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're both in the second Yeah you 415 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: t take Yeah? 416 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: Why is that? Is that just the value positional value 417 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 3: of running back? I just think running back is replaceable. 418 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 7: I just changed so much, like to me, the way 419 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 7: it's viewed. I mean, and it's particularly with this class. 420 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 7: There are some guys you know in the later rounds, 421 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 7: but this running back class to me, is more top 422 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 7: heavy in itself. 423 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: So which is why I would take a running back early, 424 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: because you could. 425 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 8: Maybe receiver your argument, But I'm also like, you're. 426 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: Trying to run the football, you're trying to go downhill. 427 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: You're building around possibly an offensive first round pick, offensive line, 428 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: first round pick. You want to run the rock. I 429 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 3: would go with Trey Benson in that center. 430 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: I think I can. I think I can can scheme 431 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 4: things up easier in the passing game for Corley with 432 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: questions on the offensive line. Then I can scheme things 433 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 4: up easy for Benson with questions on the offensive line, 434 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: like Benson is going to be more reliant on how 435 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 4: much have you built up your offensive line than I 436 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 4: feel like what you want to do with somebody like Cory. 437 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: Well, if you take a first round pick and you 438 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: feel good about your left tackle, let's say they take 439 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: a tackle in the draft. You got a left tackle there, sure, 440 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: I mean you're okay with the interior at the moment. 441 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: We assume Steele is going to bounce back off of injury, 442 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 4: but we don't know Zach Martin. Zach Martin is a 443 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: year older. We don't know who's playing center, left guard, 444 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 4: left tackle yet, And so to me, it's that's a 445 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 4: lot to then just think, well, Trey Benson will fit that. 446 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 4: Like to me, I look at Malachi Corley. 447 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: I can do I don't know if b Jeon Robertson 448 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: would fix that. 449 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 4: I mean you can Arthur in Atlanta, Like I mean, 450 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: you look at the the in general. The way that 451 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 4: you can scheme up and get the ball in Corley's 452 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 4: hands and let him create in space. I think it's 453 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 4: easier to let him create and contribute as a second 454 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 4: round pick than it would be with Benson. But I honestly, man, 455 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: it's that's hard. It's tough because you you've got a 456 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 4: lot that you still need to address it a number 457 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 4: of positions, and you don't have a fourth round. 458 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: Pick, third round receiver, third round back. 459 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 3: Now we're now, we're getting closer to be taking a 460 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: receiver because I think the wide receiver class stretch is 461 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: better than the running back class. I don't expect the 462 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: Trey Benson to be there at the in the third round. 463 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: I expect him to be gone. 464 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: But can I can I interest? Okay, you go on that. 465 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 6: You said third round receiver. 466 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: Third round receiver, third round, third round running back, third 467 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: round receiver, and you're talking potentially at my board, I'm 468 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: looking at guys like Lloyd from USC. I'm looking at 469 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: right from tw in a Sea they brought in they've 470 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: reported on the thirty Alan, who I know Bobby likes 471 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: more than me. And then Irving is another one from Oregon. Okay, okay, 472 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 2: Lloyd Wright, Alan Irving, Say Pearce, Saw Leggett, Roman Wilson 473 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: Walker from North Carolina McMillan. On my board, I. 474 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: Have Bucky Irving in the second so he will get 475 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: highest on my list, So I'm gonna take him off 476 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: of that list completely. 477 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: No, No, you could take You could say I would. 478 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: Take Bucky in that scenario. He's the last second round 479 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: player out of that group you just gave. 480 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: Me Corley and Allen is what I would go there 481 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: because I like Alan as much as I do, so 482 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 4: Alan in the third round. But I mean, it's again, 483 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: it's stuff I feel I feel like, am I using resources, 484 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 4: precious resources the right way if I'm drafting two skilled 485 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: position players with my top three picks. 486 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. 487 00:20:54,920 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: Asa made a trade with the Ravens. She got you's 488 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: got Baltimore's picked in the third round. 489 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: To get drafting football teakay pa, Okay, So now you've 490 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 3: picked up you've picked up would you consider using your extra. 491 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: Do you have two two's and two threes? 492 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: You still know you have two threes? That's it? 493 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 4: How did I pick up the extra third? 494 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: You moved down to thirty? 495 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: Oh? Okay, so picked up three? You went from. 496 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 2: Twenty six, You went from twenty six to thirty, and 497 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: you picked up Baltimore's pick at the round. 498 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 4: I've got first round, second round then two threes, right, 499 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 4: two late threes. Yeah, I mean I could be more. 500 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: I could be more convinced to take a receiver and 501 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 4: a running back in that situation because I've addressed. 502 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question. The extra pick that 503 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: you get, what position you're going for? 504 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, after what is it? 505 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 6: Third round? 506 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a third it's gonna be a third round pick. 507 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 2: Say say Dallas picks up Baltimore's pick, like we were 508 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: talking about, they go get a wide receiver. They give you, 509 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: they give you. But now you have that extra would 510 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: you consider that? What would you use your extra three? 511 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: Did we take an offensive line? What do we take 512 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: In the first two rounds, you've taken offensive lineman, you've 513 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: taken a running back, and at fifty six. 514 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 6: I'm going receiver. 515 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: Fifty six you took a running back. 516 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: No, No, at fifty six you took a round. Okay, 517 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: so you got eighty you got eighty seven. 518 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: Call it Guidon and Brooks or whatever. Just as an example, 519 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 4: that's fine, just to work off of that Guiding and Brooks. Okay. 520 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 4: Then yeah, with my I honestly think if even when 521 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 4: we're sitting there in the fifth round, I think there's 522 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: a decent chance you have like a fourth round graded receiver. 523 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: Because I had said, so I'm going, I'm I might 524 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 4: double dip at offensive line and then take a safety. 525 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 3: I was thinking linebacker and possibly a receiver, possibly depending 526 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: on how highly graded the guy is there, I. 527 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 6: Will go receiver. 528 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 7: So I guess my question for you guys is how 529 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 7: many wide receivers on this? 530 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 6: And again I got plenty of love for Jaylen Toldar. 531 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: Need a defensive tackle there too. 532 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: How many, That's what I was saying. 533 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 7: How many these wide receivers are better than what Jalen 534 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 7: Tolbart is right now that you could get in the 535 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 7: third round and none of them. 536 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 4: I don't know what Jaylen Tolbert is right now. I 537 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 4: would the problem. 538 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: I would take pearsall Florida. I'd take Leggett South Carolina. 539 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: I'd love that fit. 540 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: Man. Now I'm now, I'm tru Now I'm struggling Roman Wilson, 541 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 2: Walker from North Carolina and McMillan from Washington. That's I 542 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: I man, I'm I think I might take Roman, Wilson 543 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: and McMillan, even though I have Walker higher over Like 544 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: I just jump, I just jumped. I just jumped a tag, 545 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: which I would never do. But I just in my mind, 546 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, I like I say I I I think 547 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 2: I think every one of my third round guys I 548 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: would surely consider as opposed to Tolbert just from what 549 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: I've seen so far. 550 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 3: Well, and you can get a guy that's a different 551 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 3: player than Tolbert too. Zat is a deep play threat. 552 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: He's your Michael guys, and they grabs Holbert in the 553 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: third right. 554 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, that's why I asked. 555 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 7: But you mentioned d T as an option. Yeah, actually, 556 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 7: still about that, because. 557 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 6: The the I'm not gonna I think it does. 558 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 7: There is a drop third round tee after about that 559 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 7: early fourth. 560 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a huge dropping. 561 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 3: You've got You've got Murphy Newton, Sweat Jenkins or or 562 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: Fisk at the top. And then after that here were 563 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: my three four guys. I've got Dwayne Carter from Duke, 564 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 3: Michael Hall Junior from Ohio State, Brandon Dorles from Oregon, 565 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: Mkay Wingo from l s U, the guy that that 566 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 3: that Brian loves more than anybody, Mason Smith out of 567 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: L s U. 568 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: I should maybe love him that much. 569 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: McKinley Jackson from A and M's an interesting that's there, 570 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: where's see I. 571 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 7: Think I think he's gonna move him back to age. 572 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 7: I think I can see Zim moving him back to age. 573 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: I mean Zimmer wants to Zimmer wants to be big 574 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 4: on the defensive line, and I think but and so, 575 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: I mean that would make more sense to have him 576 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 4: on the edge than say, like let's hybrid him inside. 577 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 4: But I mean to me, it's like, I think that extra. 578 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: Pick has to be a defensive tackle. 579 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 9: I think I. 580 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: Look Jackson from Texas A and m would be my 581 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 2: guy there. 582 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 4: There's so many things that they could they could use 583 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 4: to build depth right now. That a part of me, 584 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 4: and it may not be the best approach, but a 585 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 4: part of me says, Mazzi needs to just figure it, 586 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 4: like like you need Mazzi and Osa to figure it out, 587 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: Like you've spent the resources there. I don't want to 588 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 4: sing more resources when I got out there. Like to me, 589 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: it's like, hey, that has figured it Out's biggest thing 590 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 4: squares down. Yeah, Osa's thing is just fatigue at the 591 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: end of the year, it feels like. But to me, 592 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 4: it's like Osa and Mazzi should be enough. Mazzie needs 593 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: to just it needs to click this year. So to me, 594 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: I'd say, hey, we made that evaluation, we picked him 595 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: over a premium position at offensive line, went ahead and 596 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: did that. We need to trust the evaluation. We need 597 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 4: to trust the coach and staff to get the guy ready, 598 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 4: which I think they're capable of. 599 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 3: When I think we sh classify a late third round 600 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 3: pick of general resources, and especially with a being yeah, 601 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: you don't have a four that's gotta be an important I. 602 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 4: Kind of I count a top one hundred pick without 603 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 4: a fourth rounder especially, that needs to be somebody who's 604 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: gonna come in here and play. 605 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 7: I think there are a few guys that you can 606 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 7: get late, though, Like if we're gonna take your route, 607 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 7: Bobby and be like, let's trust, then if. 608 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 6: They do that, then I'm I think. 609 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 7: Trust who though you said you said trust, I'm gonna 610 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 7: trust staff and those guys to get him ready. 611 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 6: I do think he can he can improve. 612 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 8: I'm just like, do you have the luxury of depending 613 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 8: on that right now? 614 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of luxuries in general building 615 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 4: this roster right now, and so that's one of them 616 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 4: that you're gonna have to count on. Is a guy 617 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 4: you picked in the first round a year ago. 618 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 8: So maybe you just picked DT later. 619 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 6: That's what you're saying, Go go. 620 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 4: Go, go value shopping, go in the dollar ninety nine, 621 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 4: Ben at the DVDs, like, and that's what you gotta do. 622 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 8: What do you guys have Keith Rudolf. 623 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 6: Illinois? 624 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 4: Uh, and you're born deeper. 625 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 7: I've got him as like a sixth Yeah, okay, I'm 626 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 7: asking because if you're going to you're gonna wait then 627 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 7: you're talking about you about what you saw him. 628 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 6: I see a three text sometimes a five tech. They 629 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 6: move him around and just. 630 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: Like that, he's next to Newton too. 631 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, so and I mentioned that before. 632 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 7: Do we consider who they're playing against because that especially 633 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 7: in that interior, because it does change how people defend 634 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 7: you or hope people play against you. 635 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 6: But anyway, so he wins with power leverage. He has 636 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 6: heavy hands. 637 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 8: I think he has he gets quick penetration, penetration. 638 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 7: He finds the ball well like you can see sometimes 639 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 7: he can't get there, but he's locating the ball quickly. 640 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 6: He's he's high effort. 641 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 8: He's disruptive. 642 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 7: I think if you are going to talk about maybe 643 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 7: waiting later and like a McKinley Jackson's gone or some 644 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 7: of those guys are gone, that maybe he is a 645 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 7: gentleman that you take a look at, or like a Jaydon. 646 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: Crumby Crumby Crumby. I'm digging on this one, and I 647 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 2: was going to ask you about a haul. 648 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 7: From Babe Michael how Gabe Haul game Haul? 649 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: Where do you play? Michael is at Ohio State. Yeah, 650 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: there's there's two halls in the spirit, Okay, Gabe Haul. 651 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you a bit that, because 652 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: where do you play Gabe Haul Baylor? Is he a 653 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: three or is he a one? 654 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: I put him as a three. 655 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: He's six ninety one something like that. 656 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's a Waller Texas native. 657 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: I know that makes him You can stand him up 658 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: on the edge. 659 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 6: You have him as a three. 660 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: Okay, That's what I was. 661 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 10: I was. 662 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: I was struggling, and I know you were busy doing work. 663 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 2: I was like, please help me. I sent the bat signal. 664 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 7: Up and you were like, I was like, yeah, no, 665 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 7: but he's he's very explosive. I liked me some Gabe Haul. 666 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 6: You guys think he's gonna fall. 667 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 8: I think he'll fall because people. 668 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 6: Don't know what he is. 669 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 7: Just hit like there such a I don't know, he's 670 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 7: he's such a wild card, but you know, the motor 671 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 7: in the pursuit is just out of this world. Like 672 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 7: he shows some patients in the run game as well. 673 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 7: He has a really lean frame. He's he's not a 674 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 7: pretty player. That's what I Oh no, that's my that 675 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 7: might deterbe some people is that he's not pretty, but 676 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 7: he's gonna he's gonna tussle every time he's in there. 677 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 7: So yeah, I like him too. Later if you do 678 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 7: decide to go by the rout and trust, do you 679 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 7: know who? 680 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: He reminds me of Brian a couple of years ago. 681 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: You remember Logan Broders Logan, Yeah, log Yeah, he was 682 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: a Houston edge rusher, but it was kind of a tweener. 683 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: Could have been in three tech if you really wanted to. 684 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: He kind of fizzled out. Wasn't really the guy that 685 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: you would think. 686 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: I think Krumdy is hey you say that, krim Dumbdy Crumdy. 687 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: I think he's the same way from Mississippi State. Yeah, 688 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you know he's six ' forti's three oh one. 689 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: I've seen him play inside. I mean I've seen him 690 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: play over the center. I've seen him play as a three, 691 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: So I don't know. Man, this guy's played a ton 692 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: of games. I just don't I'm hunting to one and 693 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: I can't find him. 694 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: Jackson. 695 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: For me, it is if you're talking about, if you 696 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: don't go for fisk and you don't have the opportunity 697 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: to get sweat, it's. 698 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 7: Hard to find true ones because of these guys are 699 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 7: developing as these tweeners. 700 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 6: As these guys that can help rush the passer. 701 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 7: Because I even think about I think about a Christian 702 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 7: boy in northern Iowa who is stout, build lots of penetration, 703 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 7: can take on double teams and things like that, but 704 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 7: where he really wins is that initial step and him 705 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 7: being speedy. 706 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 8: Can he take on double teams? 707 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 11: Yes? 708 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 6: Does he have the balance in the course strength to 709 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 6: do it. 710 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 7: Absolutely, But you're we've started seeing this in this last 711 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 7: couple of years. Is that Beabe out of the whole 712 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 7: draft is about three four ones and everybody else is 713 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 7: this tweener. And that's I think that's appealing to a 714 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 7: lot of coaches because they want pass rush, but you're 715 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 7: seeing that that hinder their run defense capabilities and what 716 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 7: you're asking them to do. 717 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 8: So it's like, I guess it's something we just got 718 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 8: to adjust too, big dog, Like, I. 719 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 6: Don't know what is it? What do you guys think 720 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 6: is gonna happen? 721 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 7: If we're if we're looking at a diminishing number of 722 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 7: nose tackles in the league, are teams just going to 723 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 7: keep taking advantage of it? These offensive lines, these linemen 724 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 7: are manmates. Yeah, Like they're getting bigger, it feels like, 725 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 7: and the defensive interior is getting smaller. 726 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's all cyclical and so that's I mean, 727 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 4: it is. It's it's one of the like not fine one, 728 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 4: I know. And that's what I'm saying is that, like, 729 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: I mean, look, linebackers have gotten lighter and lighter and faster, 730 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 4: and like it's not the it's not it's not Levonn 731 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 4: Kirkland running around at linebacker anymore. And so because that, 732 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: I mean, like, I mean, they'll they'll I mean, any 733 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 4: of the Pittsburgh linebackers from the mid nineties, even Pig 734 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 4: Jason Gilden whoever. Uh. The the smaller that the linebackers get, 735 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: the bigger that these offens, it's going to start making 736 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: a comeback. The run game, the power rung game is 737 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 4: going to make a comeback, and then you're going to 738 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: start seeing the development of more one techniques and bigger linebackers, 739 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 4: and it's just gonna it's this endless cycle. That's the 740 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 4: it's it's it's constantly. It's just reactionary. 741 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: It's a pass heavy league. It'll go back to a 742 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 3: run heavy league, and then it'll go back to a pass. 743 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: It'll go back and forth. 744 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: It's like basketball man in the playoff. Get that center 745 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: off the floor, right, get off. 746 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 4: We get so we're bringing back the mid ragons. 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This segment is brought to 800 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: you by your Texas four dealers. Ford is the best 801 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: in Texas. You know what else this segment is It's 802 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: time for some Twitter. 803 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: There we go, all right. 804 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 3: First question comes from mister Vallejos on Twitter. He says, 805 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: name a wild card player in the first two rounds 806 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 3: that we may not be considering for the Dallas Cowboys 807 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 3: wild card pick. Not a normal name, with somebody that 808 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 3: could maybe sneak up and be in those first two rounds. 809 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 4: So we just talk about a guy for about twelve minutes, 810 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 4: somebody who could fall that they wouldn't be expecting, Somebody 811 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: like maybe they like more than we're thinking about. 812 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 3: Let's let's do this the latter they like more than 813 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: we're thinking about, because I think the fall names are 814 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 3: have been hit pretty well. 815 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I wonder if 816 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: it like in terms of a nay. I feel like 817 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: we've covered pretty much all the ends of this that 818 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 4: it could possibly go. Because we're the last several years 819 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 4: we've kind of been in this position of like it's like, well, 820 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 4: not totally sure which direction they're going. They could go here. 821 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: I guess it would be the one that would catch 822 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 4: a lot of people off guard that I don't necessarily 823 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 4: think should like safety, Like if the right safety is 824 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 4: there in the second round for them, if for some 825 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 4: reason Nuban falls and they have him grated higher than 826 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 4: where he's at, Hicks, Bullert Hicks, Jayden Hicks at Washington 827 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 4: State is a good football player. If Hicks is sitting 828 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 4: there in the second round for your pick, is that 829 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 4: a direction where they go, oh, okay, this is value 830 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 4: that we like or Bullard this is value that we like. 831 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 4: So I would say that, look at the safeties. Maybe. 832 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 4: So those are some names. Tyler Nuban at Minnesota, Javon 833 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 4: Bullard at Georgia, and then Jaden Hicks at Washington State. 834 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 4: They're talking about second round, right, could be yeah, first 835 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 4: two rounds is what they said, just names. 836 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 2: Would you consider powers Johnson a faller considering now nobody 837 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: has him in a mock draft. 838 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 3: You're talking about to fifty six or to the fifties. 839 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 2: Well, maybe to twenty four. 840 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 4: I wouldn't consider it a faller. To twenty four, I'm 841 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 4: gonna consider it maybe a slight slot, but I wouldn't 842 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 4: consider that like a fall to me, Like I okay, 843 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 4: Powers Johnson was around twenty to twenty five, I. 844 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: Usould traded back to Buffalo at twenty eight. 845 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 9: He is not me. 846 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: Sound like a good gm over there honestly, But you're 847 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: training she's trained back though at twenty eight, and you 848 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: grab him there you go, say you go out of 849 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 2: the round, say you go down. 850 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 4: To to get him. If you're able to get able 851 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,479 Speaker 4: to get him in the second, I think that counts 852 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 4: as a fall for him. 853 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: I don't think you could get him at fifty six, 854 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,479 Speaker 2: but I think you could get him now, whether it's 855 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 2: maybe you could go to thirty five, you know, if 856 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: you had to go that far. 857 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 3: I've got a couple of answer the trade scenarios that 858 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 3: were hitting on the Blitz this week on the TV side, 859 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 3: I could outline him if I want to, but or 860 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 3: if we want to, uh, thirty five and thirty six were. 861 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: Two of their guess ability. 862 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 5: There you go. 863 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 3: Could you get him at thirty five and thirty six? 864 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: Would you feel good about it? 865 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: If I would feel great about it, then I would 866 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: absolutely feel great. And I got to pick up some picks. Sure, yeah, 867 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 2: let's go. 868 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 6: I mean to answer the question. 869 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 7: I think what would surprise me is if they just said, 870 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 7: you know what, like if there was a good guard there, yeah, 871 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 7: and they just was like, all right, we're just going 872 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 7: to kick Tyler to tackle and we're going to draft 873 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 7: a guard. 874 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 6: I think that would be a bit shocking. 875 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 8: To me if they picked up one of these top 876 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 8: guards even like, I mean, I don't even know. 877 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 6: Do you all considered Jordan Morgan is a guard? 878 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 9: Right? 879 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 2: That's that's what I think they would considering. 880 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 6: And that's what I'm saying, like, but I think I think, 881 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 6: I bet you they. 882 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 2: Think he's a guard. 883 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 4: I think he projects better as a guard. 884 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you a guy we're not talking about is 885 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 2: Christian Mahogany as a as a player as Boston College. 886 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 2: If you're looking for a guard, if you want to kick, 887 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 2: if you want to kick Tyler Smith outside, you know what, 888 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 2: that's a legitimate player right there. That is a guy 889 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: that it reminds me so much of. Like I'll never 890 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: forget this watching his tape. They're playing Miami, they're getting crushed, 891 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: they throw an interception, he makes the last tackle the game. 892 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 2: They're getting crushed in this game. Watch the same game 893 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 2: and he and he goes. It reminds me of Ron 894 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 2: Leary when he played it at at Mississippi. It's gonna 895 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 2: be at Memphis and they're getting just destroyed and he's 896 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: like the best player going for them. Christian Mahogany is 897 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: a really, really good player. If you start talking about 898 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: some of the top guards, I'm throwing him in. 899 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, some of that temperament that you see from Tulse. 900 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean you got somebody here in your 901 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 4: building who knows the player. So yeah, I mean just 902 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 4: spent four years with him. So Mahogany specifically. Yeah, you 903 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 4: remember Quinn Minors from Wisconsin Whitewater. Yeah, oh man, he. 904 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 3: Was played a maller, just a bully. Mean, that's what 905 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 3: I see with Christian Mahogany. 906 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 907 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 3: He might have been on me football team. He didn't 908 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 3: play well or the team didn't play well against Florida State, 909 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 3: didn't play well against Miami, but he was taking care 910 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 3: of Yeah. 911 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: You know, everybody's talking like Bbe and and maybe you're 912 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 2: gonna shift Lathum and stuff like that. You know, Morgan 913 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 2: gets shifted, But Christian Mahogany needs to be in that 914 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 2: mix of players that we really I'm glad. I'm just 915 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: I know why Hesha's knows well, but I just I 916 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: was starting to stack my board a little bit, and 917 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, this guy's really good. 918 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a player. 919 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 7: He former DT Yeah, yeah, yeah, he met he talked 920 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 7: about Yeah. I think that does play into how he 921 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 7: plays as well. But he, like you said, he does 922 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 7: have a coach here that has been around him for 923 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 7: a minute, Bobby, that might yeah, that might vouch for 924 00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 7: him or whatever. 925 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 6: They got some good eyes on him at the Shrine 926 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 6: Bowl as well. 927 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 4: I will also point out because we always assume that, 928 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 4: like I will say, that may also play against him. 929 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 4: It may not. But a lot of times we just 930 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 4: see they were at the same place at the same time, 931 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 4: and like I default to it a lot too. A 932 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 4: lot of times you find out, like I remember funny story, 933 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 4: somebody told me they were talking about love Smith when 934 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 4: he was in Houston, and everybody kept projecting Kirby Joseph 935 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 4: at Illinois to go to Houston. And I talked to 936 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 4: something like that is the last place that would draft 937 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 4: Kirby Joseph because he and love Smith did not get along. 938 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 4: They did, and so that's one of those things where 939 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 4: it's like sometimes it works against you where it either 940 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 4: it may very like solidified they're not coming here. 941 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: Other times it's like they ran the ball pretty well. 942 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: I think this coach would vouch for him myself. 943 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I imagine probably, but it is a big 944 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 4: part of that. Yeah, if they weren't super interested, that 945 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 4: also would explain it. Probably because oh they got somebody 946 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 4: here who's got a testimony about it. 947 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 3: And you brought this up earlier in the draft process. 948 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 3: But losing Tyler biatis you lose one of those glass 949 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 3: eaters on the offensive line. This would be another guy. 950 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 3: This would be a glass eater that you could rely 951 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 3: on and can play on the interior. 952 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 4: Yes, he is all right. 953 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 3: This one comes from cme tar heeled. Which one's more risky? 954 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 3: And this goes back to what you just brought up. 955 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,720 Speaker 3: Any tar heel player, any tar Heel player leaving Tyler 956 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: Smith at guard and putting a rookie at right tackle 957 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 3: and left tackle, or rookie right tackle at left tackle. 958 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. Yeah, man, read that. 959 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 3: Guys like that they're playing right right or playing right 960 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 3: tackle in college, but you're putting him at left tackle, 961 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 3: right or shifting Tyler Smith to left tackle and playing 962 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 3: either bass or a rookie at left guard. Which one's 963 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 3: more risky. 964 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 4: I've seen Tyler Smith play left tackle. I've seen TJ. 965 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 4: Bass play left card Like, I know they can do that, 966 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 4: so that to me is not there is a question. 967 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 4: I mean, you know Tyler Smith can play left guard, 968 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,479 Speaker 4: but you would You'd be the biggest variable you would 969 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 4: be projecting in that scenario. Is a right tackle rookie 970 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 4: moving and playing left tackle at the NFL. That's the 971 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 4: biggest Everything else we have an answer on. We've seen 972 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 4: it and we can say it works. We know Tyler 973 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 4: Smith can play left guard. We've seen Tyler Smith play 974 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 4: left tackle. We've seen TJ. Bass play left guard. Those 975 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 4: are all things we know. This the only projection there. 976 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 4: So if you're talking about safeguarding, what is the safest 977 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 4: thing to do, the safest of those two scenarios would 978 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 4: be Tyler Smith at left tackle, TJ Bassett left guard, 979 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 4: yeah to. 980 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 2: Me, and a rookie center, yeah, or I mean Hoffman. 981 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 3: Or Hoffman maybe. Yeah. That's a great point. This one 982 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 3: comes from Michael. He says, would you sacrifice the rest 983 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 3: of your draft to grab a third round pick, keeping 984 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 3: your eighty seven, but taking all four of your remaining 985 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 3: draft picks, the two comp picks at one in the fifth, 986 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 3: one in the sixth, your seven, two seventh round picks. 987 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 3: Would you sacrifice all of that to somehow find your 988 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 3: way back into the third and only have four picks 989 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 3: on the weekend? 990 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,959 Speaker 6: No, I'm about the I'm about to cry at the idea. 991 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out how to pick up more picks. 992 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to do right now. I'm not 993 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 4: trying to give up anything. They look as as thin 994 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 4: as the margins seem to be right now in terms 995 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 4: of free agency and what you're able to do, like 996 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 4: you're gonna eat all the picks you can get to 997 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 4: fill out those roster and find players. And I think 998 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 4: that they've done such a good job historically of finding 999 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 4: guys on day three that I don't wanna. I don't 1000 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 4: want to miss that. 1001 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 7: And you're playing ketch up a little bit too, because again, 1002 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 7: there's just so much uncertainty about what you're gonna get 1003 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 7: from your. 1004 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 8: What's up next? 1005 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 3: You're not on you don't have a microphone yet. 1006 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 6: What you're gonna get you. 1007 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 3: Figure it out a long way. No keep going, no, no, no, no, no, 1008 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 3: I do. 1009 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 7: I do think also to you are in a weird 1010 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 7: place and the urgency should be high because of the 1011 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 7: lack of production you got from your other class. 1012 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 8: You can't go into this draft class. You can't go 1013 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 8: into this. 1014 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 3: Draft and expect to go four for four on fourth 1015 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 3: picks in the first round. 1016 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 6: You can't go in there sitting on your fingers. I 1017 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 6: can tell you that they better. 1018 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: Tell you what if I if I was Houston Texans, 1019 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 2: I would consider something like that, talk about it if 1020 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 2: I was in Houston Texans, because they've had a really 1021 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 2: good offseason adding players. 1022 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're questioning chips in and they're in there, and then. 1023 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 2: If they were going to push picks, and then I'm 1024 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 2: betting that they're going to they have a guy in mind, 1025 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 2: they would get making even better right now. 1026 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 3: Because you could probably muster at eighty to eighty five 1027 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 3: selection if you wanted to trade those four picks to 1028 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 3: make it happen. 1029 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 2: The problem is, like say, we've talked about this a 1030 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 2: bunch I usual will tell you this too. 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Are they flying that 1110 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 3: quickly off the shelf? They're somewhere. There's somewhere in here. 1111 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 3: All right, go get your Draft Guide. Go get it, Alice, 1112 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 3: Cowboys dot Com slash Star. All right, We've got some 1113 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 3: positional resets to do. These are superlatives in the class. 1114 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 3: And I wanna start with Nick on this one deepest 1115 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 3: position group in the entire class. Which which one would 1116 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 3: you go with in the entire draft clubs? One that's 1117 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 3: going to stretch into day three with legitimate talent top 1118 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 3: to bottom. 1119 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think you got to look at wide receiver 1120 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 13: right with the talents that are at the top of 1121 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 13: the board, and then you look into day two into 1122 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 13: day three, there's there's so much top end talent, but 1123 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 13: then I really feel like there's some value there on 1124 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 13: day three. We've talked about some guys earlier in the process. 1125 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 13: Guy like Josh Cephis out of Utsa. Yeah, that's a 1126 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 13: big body type receiver that you could probably get in 1127 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 13: the sixth or seventh round and which is kind of 1128 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 13: wild to to look at and see. But you look 1129 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 13: at Jalen Kocher out of Holy Cross, that's another interesting 1130 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 13: receiver that you feel like you could get. You talked 1131 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 13: talked about Jawan Jackson the other day out of two Lane. 1132 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 13: He's probably earlier day three, But I mean those are 1133 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,879 Speaker 13: the types of talents that I think you'll be able 1134 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 13: to hit on once Saturday rolls around. 1135 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 7: Yeah. For me, it will be corner, I mean to 1136 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 7: second to second receiver, our receiver. Yeah, man, I mean 1137 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 7: you start looking at corner. I think some of these 1138 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 7: guys will be. 1139 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 6: Here, maybe like Jerry and Jones later cam Hart, some 1140 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 6: of these guys, I don't think. I mean, even we 1141 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 6: it sounds crazy, but even talking about Quanta. 1142 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 7: Stickers, I think he's going to be a player, but 1143 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 7: he might be available in some of these later rounds. 1144 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 7: I think corner stretches into that fourth round, beginning of 1145 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 7: the fifth round, where you you should be able to 1146 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 7: get some equality guy in there and at least give 1147 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 7: you some contribution right away at the very least on 1148 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 7: special teams. 1149 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of on the opposite side, Bobby, what about 1150 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 3: most underrated position in the draft? 1151 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny, we're just we're just talking about 1152 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 4: it a little bit because I think, you know, we 1153 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,280 Speaker 4: were talking about frustrations. I like the running back depth 1154 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 4: outside of the first round, I do. I like, Yeah, 1155 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 4: I like some of the running I've got a cluster 1156 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 4: of running backs like in the third round that I 1157 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 4: like and guys that stretch into the fourth. So I 1158 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 4: think that running back typically has been one of these 1159 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 4: positions that when you you you can find a good 1160 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 4: one on Day three, and I think that's really similar 1161 00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 4: this year. It's not very top heavy at all. But 1162 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 4: if if you're talking about I think the lack of 1163 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 4: a first round pop name has had a lot of 1164 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 4: people talking down on the class overall. But I think 1165 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 4: there's there's good depth there where I think you're potentially 1166 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 4: going to be grabbing guys on day three that you 1167 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 4: have a round higher graded than where you're picking them. 1168 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 3: Who are some of those names that you had that 1169 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 3: you were talking about that cluster of guys. 1170 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 4: I mean, so in the third round, I've got estimate, 1171 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 4: I've got Lloyd, I've got Irving, I've got quorum, I've 1172 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 4: got right. I mean, I think you look at Grendo 1173 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 4: at Louisville like I mean, there's a bunch of different 1174 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 4: guys here that I'm a big fan of, the Clemson 1175 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 4: guy like him. There's just a good stack of running 1176 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 4: backs to me that on day two, day three you're 1177 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 4: going to be able to find good value for There's 1178 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 4: just a cluster of them that, you know, I think 1179 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 4: they're going to stretch a little bit. Guys that will 1180 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 4: have in the third round, I think are going to 1181 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 4: go on the fourth. Guys having the fourth going the 1182 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,240 Speaker 4: fifth Will Shipley by the way, Cli yes Shipley. 1183 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,240 Speaker 6: How did you guys feel? Abou Kamani Vido. 1184 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 3: Troy interesting prospect. I think he's late Day three but 1185 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 3: still a guy. I mean, he's got some weaponry to him. 1186 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 3: You know, he's got some speed. He's another one of 1187 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 3: those smaller backs that you you think could maybe provide 1188 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 3: a bit of a jolt. I mean it's only five seven. 1189 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 7: Because that's the thing about some of these guys that 1190 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 7: are later that you were talking about, Bobby, is like you, 1191 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 7: you look at some of the size with some of them, 1192 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 7: and that maybe that's something that's deters you because a 1193 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 7: couple of guys like that. 1194 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 3: Ammi Bailey from TCU, Vital. 1195 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 7: From Troy George Jordan Louisville can play, but the size 1196 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 7: is something that maybe is the reason why they would 1197 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 7: be there. 1198 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 6: But to your point, though, Bobby, I do think that 1199 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 6: there are some guys that can be there later decad 1200 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 6: I wish Bailey would have run better, Amani. 1201 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, the times were not great on Bailey. That was 1202 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 4: a little disappointed. But also like a combine no here 1203 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 4: and uh here at the star at the big twelve combine. 1204 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, because I mean that's your that size. 1205 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 4: You got to be faster than four six and so. 1206 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 4: But now I think even they're smaller guys, even in 1207 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 4: the guys we're talking about in the second third round, Like, 1208 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 4: I mean, Korum's smaller, you know, Irving, Like You've got 1209 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 4: these different guys that are they're on the smaller. 1210 00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 2: End, Ray Davis. 1211 00:51:59,239 --> 00:51:59,439 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1212 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 8: But the power, the power that appeal you with Bailey? 1213 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 4: No, it does, it does. Still, I mean who's who Okay, 1214 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 4: specifically here in Dallas, who's my like home run guy 1215 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 4: then right now? Yeah, Like I mean period, and that's 1216 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's I mean, just right now you're 1217 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,799 Speaker 4: dealing with like you know, you're dealing with a lot 1218 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 4: of power. There's not a lot of home run right now. 1219 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 10: That's sir. 1220 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 13: I think the thing with the money Bailey, if they 1221 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 13: were to take a leap on a guy like that, 1222 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 13: they probably need to draft a power back earlier in 1223 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 13: the draft. Like that would be a situation where they're 1224 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 13: comfortable going in taking two backs in the draft and 1225 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 13: he's probably the second one that they take on Day 1226 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 13: three or if he is up undrafted. That's that's an 1227 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 13: interesting guy that you would probably look at. 1228 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 3: Okay, Brian, what do you think about underrated positions? 1229 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 2: You know, I'm kind of looking right now at cornerback 1230 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 2: when I when I start, because I know my board 1231 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 2: you know, I start to get down into the fourth 1232 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 2: and fifth round, there's some guys that I absolutely uh 1233 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 2: would be okay playing with. I know that I've talked 1234 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 2: about my love for King from Penn State, Abrams, Drain 1235 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 2: from Missouri, you know, uh Jackson there, There's there's several 1236 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 2: of these guys. Melton another one that I really really like. 1237 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 2: I feel like though that that it's kind of you 1238 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 2: see the top of the draft and and we'll see 1239 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 2: what happens with Wiggins. I know that Arnold Mitchell, those 1240 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 2: guys Djon, well, they'll they'll probably go Tampa. He didn't 1241 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 2: run great here out for you guys at the Pro 1242 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 2: day stuff, but there's. 1243 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 4: Shuttle times were good though. Yeah, there's some stuff. There's 1244 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 4: still some stuff that you can extract. 1245 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 2: Top of it is like they've got some players and 1246 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 2: this I think this thing stretches into the third, fourth, 1247 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 2: fifth round. I think so if if I had to 1248 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 2: if I had to say, okay, well, best available player, 1249 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 2: best player on my board, it might be because I 1250 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 2: know we're going to get into the draft and it's like, okay, 1251 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 2: who do you guys guy as your best player? And 1252 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 2: I have a feeling there's gonna be either it's either 1253 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 2: gonna be a corner on my board. It might even 1254 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 2: be an edge, might be another guy that kind of 1255 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 2: comes in the guards we've talked about. We mentioned Mahogany 1256 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 2: and those guys and then wide receiver. So I just 1257 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 2: have a feeling it's going to be, Okay, who's your 1258 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 2: best guy on the board, It'll be one of that 1259 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 2: position group because that seems pretty thick between round four, 1260 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 2: five and six for me. 1261 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 3: You mentioned ed rusher. I feel like that's the same 1262 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 3: scenario of running back without that top heavy just mauler 1263 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 3: of a name. You've got a lot too at the 1264 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 3: top from UCLA. You've got Jared First from Florida State, 1265 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 3: But neither one of those guys are the Aiden Hutchinson's, 1266 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 3: the Trayvon Walkers of the world that were just dominating 1267 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 3: draft storylines. I think it's an underrated position because you've 1268 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 3: got plenty of talented ed rushers top to bottom that 1269 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 3: can make an impact. I'm looking down at like the 1270 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,800 Speaker 3: Murphy brothers from UCLA. Yeah, those are two guys that 1271 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 3: will make an NFL team, could make an NFL roster 1272 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 3: as rookies and find their way into playing time. As rookies. 1273 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,319 Speaker 3: Mo Kamara from Colorado State is another guy you could 1274 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 3: get in the middle rounds that that could be an 1275 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 3: impact player. 1276 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 2: Caesar from Houston. 1277 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Nelson fascinating talent, really good player. 1278 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 13: Between him and David Ugle Eggbow at Houston, both of 1279 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 13: those guys coming out of edge rushers. Yeah, he's got 1280 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 13: something going down there. If you were Jalb Hunt as 1281 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 13: a Houston Christian edge rusher. Yes, that's another one. 1282 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I look, I mean I like me some Logan 1283 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 7: le too. I like some of what I saw from 1284 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 7: him Iowa, Yeah, in from Iowa. Some of the things 1285 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 7: he was able to do at the Senior Bowl, just 1286 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 7: how quick his get off is and how he can 1287 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 7: redirect people. I think he's a guy that might be 1288 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 7: there in the later rounds too. That are that's still interesting, 1289 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 7: that's still intriguing as a player that you might take 1290 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 7: a chance on. 1291 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 9: For sure. 1292 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 2: You know the thing that you guys were reporting on 1293 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 2: at Dallas Cowboys dot com or all these linebackers too, 1294 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 2: they're there. And maybe that's positions not as deep. I mean, 1295 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 2: it's surely not as top heavy, but maybe in the 1296 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 2: rounds two, three, and four, it seems like, to me, 1297 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 2: the names that you guys report they're hunting, they're hunting 1298 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 2: that position right now and trying to kind of get 1299 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 2: that in order by bringing those guys in and then 1300 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 2: stacking them the way like, Okay, this guy's got this trade, 1301 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 2: this guy's got this trade. You get the interviews, you know, 1302 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 2: the coaches with him and all that, they'll figure all 1303 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,399 Speaker 2: this out. But that seems like a position they're hunting 1304 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 2: right now. 1305 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 6: I don't think you can sit on your hands with 1306 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 6: the linebup, no class. 1307 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's that's probably a position. I feel 1308 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 13: like though, it's probably gonna come down to either D 1309 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 13: tackle or linebacker that you get on day two because 1310 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 13: the expectation offensive line round one. You got to get 1311 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 13: the running back somewhere on day two, so the other 1312 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 13: pick you're either gonna have to spend on a D 1313 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:22,320 Speaker 13: tackle or linebacker. 1314 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 3: You would have had a whole lot of fun in 1315 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 3: our first second. 1316 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were, We're about to tell me something. I 1317 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 4: just told you, y'all. 1318 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 2: Just no, you went through that scenario basically, Yeah, yeah, Well, 1319 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 2: if you had the extra three say that, then you 1320 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,800 Speaker 2: would you what position would you pick up if you 1321 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 2: had the extra pick. 1322 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 13: Yeah, the other one then that do tackle linebacker for sure. 1323 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, weakest position in the draft class. This one's kind 1324 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 3: of tough. 1325 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 2: One technique really just I think knowses. Yeah, you know, 1326 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 2: I usual was talking about it that we just don't 1327 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 2: play that way anymore, you know that to have the 1328 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 2: guys like Sweat and Fisk and Jackson Mason Smith. Mason 1329 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 2: Smith was a five star if I'm right, nick, five 1330 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,240 Speaker 2: star recruit, and he didn't play like a five star recruit, 1331 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 2: you know. 1332 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 13: I mean, this has hurt him quite a bit, but 1333 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 13: it's still to the point whenever he took it on 1334 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 13: the field, it was different than what was expected. 1335 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was he was supposed to be this highly 1336 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 2: touted type player and he did not play that way. 1337 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 2: But I I I'm having I'm having a hard time 1338 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 2: right now finding me a one. I really am about the. 1339 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 4: Guard class one technique to get into. I don't like 1340 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 4: the tight ends. 1341 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 3: I don't either. 1342 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 4: Powers is good, but I mean, you know, some people 1343 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 4: feel a little too small. I'm not a fan of 1344 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 4: Theo Johnson, not a fan of Stover even. 1345 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 3: Though so I like I like Jaheim Bell, I like 1346 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 3: Kate Sonat or Ben Sonnat rather stover guys. 1347 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 4: The guys that I like would be uh like Bowers 1348 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 4: snat Jared Wiley, Like, I mean that's kind of and 1349 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 4: I mean even still, like I mean, there's there's there's 1350 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 4: questions there, and I mean, like I think there is 1351 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 4: it blow people, but I mean I think there's a 1352 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 4: decent chance, Like the second tight end off the board 1353 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 4: is Jared Wiley. 1354 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 13: Yeah, don't be surprised if that happened. Yeah, absolutely, no, 1355 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 13: that's fair and I. 1356 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 4: Think in most tight end classes that would not be 1357 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 4: the case. 1358 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 7: But I agree with you is that we're also in 1359 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 7: this weird place with tight end to me as well, 1360 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 7: where it used to be you want guys that can 1361 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 7: block in line, they gotta have a bigger body whatever 1362 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 7: and now, but a lot of these guys are receiver 1363 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 7: esque and. 1364 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 8: So it takes away from their blocking and some of 1365 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 8: the things they can do. 1366 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 6: So it's to your point. 1367 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 7: I feel the same way about a lot of d 1368 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 7: ns too. It's like some of them they're rushing the passion, 1369 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 7: but it doesn't mean they're able to shed and tackle 1370 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 7: consistently either. It's kind of like a trickle down effect. 1371 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 7: So when you talk about the tight end position. 1372 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 6: I agree. 1373 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 8: I feel like it's either this or that with a 1374 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 8: lot of them. 1375 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 7: Some of them have some athleticism that stands out to you, 1376 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 7: but then you're like, Okay, but the baby you getting 1377 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 7: ran over by this d N right. 1378 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 6: Now, so it's up and down. 1379 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 7: I do like a I think like a Tanner McLachlan 1380 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 7: as a Arizona is a guy that has a little 1381 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 7: bit of both to where you can work with him. 1382 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 7: I watched Eric all the other day, and I know 1383 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 7: his body is toe up as a weapon. 1384 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought him up. He's still with that 1385 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 2: back injury. He had the surgery and stuff on that 1386 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 2: and something you're going to completely have to deal with. 1387 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 2: But I agree, I was I'm glad you brought him up. 1388 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 9: Eric. 1389 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 2: He transferred from Michigan so that you could now about 1390 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 2: drafting a Michigan player. You don't have to worry about 1391 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 2: that you're drafting an Iowa player. So yeah, but this 1392 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 2: is there's a versatility to his game. He plays like 1393 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 2: an athlete at six four, two hundred and fifty two pounds. 1394 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 2: When you watch him play, the movement I mean, you 1395 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 2: talk about the movement he gets coming off the ball, 1396 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 2: pretty impressive there, Eric All. 1397 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just whenever you look at the tight end position, 1398 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 3: I'm looking at brock Bauers up top. I like Jatavian 1399 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 3: Sanders from Texas too. 1400 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 4: I think he's like the upside. 1401 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 3: There is upside there, But then it's just a bunch 1402 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 3: of guys. That's just kind of where it's at with 1403 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 3: the position. There's a significant you talked about it a 1404 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 3: little bit there, Nick, whenever you're saying top to bottom 1405 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 3: from Catstover to Jared Wiley, it could be However, many 1406 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 3: picks in between, they could go anywhere in the third, 1407 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 3: third round on. 1408 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 4: I will say I think that when I say Wiley 1409 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 4: second off the world, it's because I think most I 1410 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 4: think most teams are going to have Wiley above Sanders. 1411 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 3: He thinks most. 1412 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Wow. 1413 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 3: Both of them are guys that played two ways in 1414 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 3: high school, so it's different, you know, Like they're both 1415 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 3: raw at the position. 1416 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 4: So was Quentin Johnston's quarterback. 1417 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 7: But I do think Jeane Bell is going to rise 1418 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 7: because people are looking for Deebo esque feel and I 1419 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 7: think he can do some of that stuff as well. 1420 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 7: So I'm like, yeah, this class is different, This tight 1421 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 7: end class is different. 1422 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 6: How does it compare to last year's se y'all? 1423 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 13: Last year's much much more time, much stronger lets stronger 1424 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 13: of both the. 1425 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 4: Top in talent. 1426 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 13: Last year's class, I think once you got into late 1427 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 13: day two, early day three, though, you were kind of 1428 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 13: reaching in certain points, like there were a couple of 1429 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 13: teams I'd hit I can't think off the top of 1430 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 13: my head, But it was the top end talent that 1431 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 13: really made the tight end class one. 1432 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 1433 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 3: I mean you're you're hearing guys in prospects talk about 1434 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,160 Speaker 3: guys that they modeled their game after. And one of 1435 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 3: the names is Sam la Porter. He was a rookie 1436 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 3: last year. Yeah, that's how impactful that rookie class was 1437 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 3: a year. 1438 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 2: But is right too about Bell? They hand him the 1439 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 2: ball on reverses and stuff like that in the open field. 1440 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the guys, the guy's got some legitimate talent 1441 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 2: running with the ball, catching the ball as well. 1442 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 3: All right, we got to get out of here. It 1443 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 3: was good having you for the last year. 1444 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 13: I feel like I'm about to sing a song, Like 1445 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 13: I'm just standing over this mic. 1446 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 3: What would your song choice beak? 1447 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 4: No, there's a reason. 1448 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 3: He would put us all the shame for Nick Harris, 1449 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 3: for Bobby Bell, Bryan brought us for Aisha Morrison and 1450 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 3: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yoman saying so long, 1451 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 3: we will see you next week on the Draft Show. 1452 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 1453 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.