1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Here's the snap, four man rush firing downfield and got 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: a man rocking and roll touchdown. Texans game day. He's 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: every day. Yeah, nice ball, nice ball, five nights a week. 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: The hits keep on coming. Wows, we're gonna down the quarterback. No, 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: it's Texans all EXAs. Oh hello Texans. Getting ready for 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: a big weekend with the Houston Texans traveling to Cleveland 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: to take on the Browns Sunday at noon. Mark Vantimer 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: and John Harris with you, and we are joined because 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: it's Thursday night, and we are joined every Thursday night 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: by the General. John McClain from the Houston Chronicle. General, 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: good evening. I know you're on a bit with Ron 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: and Clint this afternoon, but I mean, who are we 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: kidding here? Now? You're with the big time. I'm kidding. 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: Those guys are wonderful. But it's great to have you on. 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate you working over time with us. And how 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: are you doing? You're getting ready for the weekend. You 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: feel pretty good. I saved the best for last. That's nice. Well, yeah, 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: well you're going tomorrow on. Oh no, that's today. So yeah, 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: you did say the best for last. General Cleveland as 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: an overall destination to go see a game, especially when 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: the Browns are good ranking one to ten. Uh, let 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: me think a minute. There's nothing like Lambeau, of course, 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: and in Pittsburgh and New England has been great for 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: about twenty years. Denver was great for a while. But 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: I would have to put when the Browns were going 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship game with Bernie Kosar, when they 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: were winning in the late seventies and nineteen eighty blew 28 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: the playoff game to the Raiders with Mike Davis intercepted 29 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Brian's pipe in the end zone. That was the old 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: stadium and that old barn, the mistake by the Lake 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: people called it. It was rocket. That's that's am had character. 32 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: I remember when I first went there, there was no 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: elevator and you had to walk through the stands and 34 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: the cement would be covered with ice and you'd be 35 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: gripping all the railings to get up. And then when 36 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: they got an elevator, the broadcast both they put it. 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: You would walk up to the you'd go to the 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: press box and then you'd walk out and you'd walk 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: out to the edge of the upper deck and that's 40 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: where they put the broadcasters, and you could basically spit 41 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: on players if you wanted to. And I used to 42 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: like to walk down there out there, step over a 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: rail and watch the people coming from downtown because they 44 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: were crazy. I thought you're gonna says like to go 45 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: to the rail and spit. So I'm glad you didn't 46 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: say that, general people, I'm not a Brown fan. People 47 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: forget that the Browns aren't expansion team. That despite the 48 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: fact that they have the history. You just discussed that 49 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: that team became the Baltimore Ravens. And I know you 50 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: know this well. And in nineteen ninety nine the new 51 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns came into the league. But they have all 52 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: the history and the records and everything else. And here 53 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: they are going to the playoffs for the second time 54 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: in their history last year, in this new history. And 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: in O two they were there with Butcher Davis and 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: lost a game to Pittsburgh on the road in which 57 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: they had the lead. So tell me it's been a struggle. 58 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: How strange is it to you to see them this 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: good at this point in time. Well, I was at 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 1: that playoff game in which quarterback Kelly Holk them through 61 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: for more than four hundred yards and the Steelers had 62 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: to come from behind to win it right at the end, 63 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: and how the Browns thought, okay, there, that's three years 64 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: after they were reborn. They were going to be good 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: and then they've been pathetic. And last year, of course, 66 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: who went to the second round of the playoffs. This year, 67 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: I picked them to win the Super Bowl. If you 68 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: analyizlie roster, nobody's got more talent top to bottom than 69 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: they do. They've been stockpiling all those high draft choices. 70 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: And with Aaron Drew Barry running the franchise, I think 71 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: the general was gonna say, with Andrew Barry running a franchise, 72 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: they have made some significant additions, especially in the defensive 73 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Mark nine new starters, nine won 74 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: the Rookie and Greg k News obviously Andrew Berry drafted him. 75 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: Could see Jeremiah o Woe suit Coramoa. It just depends 76 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: on last week he started. Because the Chiefs obviously are 77 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I'd imagine they'll probably play Mack Wilson this week. 78 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: But the rest of them free agents signed Clowney, signed 79 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: John Johnson, signed Troy Hill, and I think the one 80 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: guy that they picked up was that just way off 81 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: the radar screen because he had been such a disaster. 82 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: That's Mollie McDowell, and he's playing in the middle of 83 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: that defensive line and you're like, whoa, who's fifty eight? 84 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: And you realize, boy, this dude's pretty darn good. Malik McDowell. 85 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: How they got a lot of good depth on that team. Yeah, 86 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: they got it. Almost did every position too, And they 87 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: got the two best running back combo in the NFL 88 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: right now and that game last year. This weather is 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: supposed to be good, but you guys know how you 90 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: can change. That can change on a dime, and right 91 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: now is supposed to be really nice, and I'm excited 92 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: about it. I have been up there much when the 93 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: weather is good, and I've been going there for more 94 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: than four decades. But it's gonna be a fun trip. 95 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: The Browns, of course, are favored by twelve and a half, 96 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: that second biggest spread of the weekend. I picked the 97 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Texans to lose by ten because the Browns are a 98 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 1: better team and they're seething after the way they blew 99 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: the game at the end against Kansas City. But it's 100 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: still gonna be fun. I like, think about what it 101 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: would mean to the NFL and Browns fans all over 102 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: the world if they could win their first championship since 103 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four. I mean, that would be great for 104 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: the NFL, but I'd rather let's do it in Houston. 105 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: But that's just me general. Kevin's the Fanski takes over 106 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: last year. He was a guy they thought about hiring 107 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: than they hired free kids. When Kitchens was fired, they 108 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: went back to Stefanski and he did a will of 109 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: a job. Last year they get Coach of the Year honors. 110 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts of Kevin Stefanski the job he's 111 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: done as a head coach. There were not high expectations 112 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: last year, and so they caught everybody by a surprise. 113 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Now there are very high expectations. Last year, the fans 114 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: and the media up there, they've been like a dog's 115 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: being kicked all the time. You keep expecting to get kicked, 116 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: and they kept waiting for the bottom to fall out 117 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: and the Browns to become the Brownies, and they never did. 118 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: Now people are popped and they're looking for more because 119 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: they know what kind of talent they got. They're loaded 120 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: in almost every position. Their offensive line is top three. 121 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: You know Clowney, I'm told up there, is so excited 122 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: that he's finally there, playing opposite Miles Garrett, best player 123 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: he's played with since J. J. Watt in twenty eighteen. 124 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: And they've got depth their secondary. If you look at 125 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: the high picks in Cleveland secondary, it's amazing what they've 126 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: been able to do with their extra draft choices. And 127 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see if they try to single 128 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: cover Brandon Cooks or if they're going to wise up 129 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: and have a safety over the top and not let 130 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: him kill him the way he did against Jacksonville. Of course, 131 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: Jacksonville had him double covered on that first phenomenal catch 132 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: and he got away from the coverage on the second one. 133 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: But you know they're going to give him a lot 134 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: of attention. And I'm writing a column right now about Clowney, 135 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: and my lead says Tim Kelly and Jadavian Clowney arrived 136 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: at Yston at the same time, but only one is 137 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: still here, and how their careers have gone since they 138 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: got here in twenty fourteen. And I'm excited about this game. 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 1: I love going to Cleveland. It's a great sports town. 140 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: I remember when the Jake opened one of my closest 141 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: friends in the NFL. Tony Gross, He's covered the Browns 142 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: almost as long as I've covered the Boilers and the Texas. 143 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: We went with him to a Indians Tribe series and 144 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: it was sold out and it was so exciting and 145 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: everything that happened, downtown restaurants opening bars around the ballpark, 146 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: and I thought, Man, if we ever get a stadium downtown, 147 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: imagine what it's going to do for Houston. John Johnny 148 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: and I sometimes do the segment called Who's Better, and 149 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: I'll just throw a couple of things or elements of 150 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: something of play out there and who's better, what's better? 151 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: That kind of thing. One time this summer, one time 152 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: at band camp. Now, one time this summer, I threw 153 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: out John who's better Clowney or Mario Williams. Both were 154 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: number one overall picks of the Houston Texans. Both are 155 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: physical freaks, but in a different kind of way. So 156 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: who's better Mario or Clowney? Clowney when he's healthy, and 157 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: but you know, it's amazing. Both those guys first overall 158 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: picks didn't come close to finishing their careers with the Texans. 159 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: Mario went out after an injury Clowney went out because 160 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien didn't want to pay pay him one hundred 161 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: million dollars and trade him Seattle in a trade that 162 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: all that's left is Jacob Martin. And if I had 163 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: to have one of those guys and both were healthy, 164 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: I'd take Clowney because he's great against the run and 165 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: he was a good pass rusher. Well, that's a good question. 166 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: What did I say, Mark? I probably said Clowney too. 167 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: I think clown you said, see here's Clowney is tantalizing 168 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: to football people. The athletic ability, just the freakishness. They 169 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: get all over it. Now, the numbers totally belong to Mario. Okay, Mario, 170 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: I know we got hurt in eleven, right, he played 171 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: five games, went out and that was his last season 172 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: in Houston. Mario got the second big contract. Clowney Clowney 173 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: never got one. You know, Clowney has just been kind 174 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: of this mercenary trying to look for that second contract, 175 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: and it's getting later and later in the career. Mario 176 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: double digit sacks, one, two, three, four, five years. I 177 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: got the numbers in front of me, and nine sacks 178 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: for a sixth year, nine Sacks is the high watermark 179 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: for Clowney. I know it's not all about Sacks. Clowney 180 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: gets a lot of kfls. He's a disruptor. He might 181 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: caused something that forces the play somewhere else, and somebody 182 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: else makes the play. I get all that, but it's 183 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: fascinating to me how everybody's in love with Clowney over Mario. Well, 184 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: Mario was a better pass riser, obviously, because that's why 185 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: they got him. And I remember I'd never even heard 186 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: of Mario Williams till the Combine. Texans didn't even cover 187 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: his pro day, and then all of a sudden, he 188 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: was so spectacular, And it's fascinating his combine compared to J. J. Watt, 189 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: And I remember writing a column about their two combines 190 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when I was at the 191 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: combine and somebody else did really well and people were 192 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: blown away, and I said, hey, what about these two? 193 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: And of course nobody came close to Mike mcmulla's combine, 194 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: which made him millions, and he didn't earn it. But 195 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: I would be happy with either one of those guys. 196 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: But we're never gonna know about what Jadevion Clowney could 197 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: have done without the microfractures surgery and subsequent knee surgeries 198 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: he had to have because of that and on his 199 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: other knee. But you even though Mario was two ninety 200 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: and he ran and he was strong, Clowney and never 201 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: get there's never been a lineman run like Clowney. But 202 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, he was never a great pass rusher. All right, 203 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: So how many years did it? Watt's in the eleventh year, right, 204 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: because he was drafted, all right, he was in the 205 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: eleventh year. Mario played in eleven seasons, but the last 206 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: two it was just a few appearances here and there. 207 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: And what has what one oh one? Off the top 208 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: of my head, is that how many sacks Johnny? Mario's 209 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: got ninety seven point five. He's three and a half 210 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: sacks behind Watt in the career. Now what's still going? 211 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: And he's gonna get something this year, and who knows 212 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: how much longer he keeps playing. I just think that's notable. 213 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: Eleven years, eleven years now Wat's not done with those 214 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: eleventh seasons, so he can have twenty. In other words, 215 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: you're saying Mario Williams is bettering J. J. Watt saying 216 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: Mario Williams saying I'm saying Mario Williams, you know, for 217 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: a number one overall pick and a guy got a 218 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: huge set in contract. I'm not saying he's underrated, but 219 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: it's funny how his name never comes up in these 220 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: kinds of conversations. I think one thing about Mario. He 221 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: was a hard to interview guy. Oh, he didn't like 222 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: doing it. He was a tough guy to talk to. 223 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: They didn't bring him to the podium then like they 224 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: do now. But he was an interesting guy. You know, 225 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: early on he did some things that got him a 226 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: lot of negative publicity and he kind of shrunk away. 227 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: But man, he was a great prospect. Could you imagine 228 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: if they had what and Williams and Clowney on their 229 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: defensive line. I think what's interesting. I was actually listening 230 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: to Landry and John today and they had on Ken 231 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: Carmen from Cleveland. He brought up a great point and 232 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I think it goes to your to your thought mark 233 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: when the Cleveland the Browns tank tank didn't play well, Sorry, 234 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: they didn't play well for a couple of years to 235 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: hopefully get the first pick. They essentially were tanking from 236 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, and it got Miles Garrett, and we watch 237 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett from a farn thing. Dang, I'd like to 238 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: have us a Miles Garrett. They watch him in Cleveland 239 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: and they're like, why is he not getting eight sacks 240 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: on every play? Why is he not getting fifty sacks 241 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: on a year? And I think it's pretty similar to 242 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: the way that we all here in Houston reacted to 243 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: Clowney and Mario Williams. When you were that number one pick. 244 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Everybody expects you to win eight Super Bowls and have 245 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: fifty sacks a year, and there's just this high expectation 246 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: for those guys that when you look back on and 247 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: you go, wow, you know what. Devin clown was a 248 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: pretty good player here. Mario Williams a pretty good player now, 249 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: not at a J. J. Watt standard, but you're that 250 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: number one pick, it just changes completely. And speaking of 251 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: number one picks, John McClain Baker Mayfield has not gotten 252 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: the big contract yet, but I just see little bits 253 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: of progress from him each and every time I watch him, 254 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: and I know he made a bad mistake at the 255 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: end of the game the other day. What are your 256 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: thoughts about Baker and do you think he gets that 257 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: big contract and stays in Cleveland for a while. I 258 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: don't think that he will get one that makes him 259 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: the highest paide. He shouldn't. He shouldn't. He doesn't deserve 260 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: to be that because he's not a great quarterback. And 261 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: when you play in that stadium in that kind of weather, 262 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: you're never gonna have big stats. So he better win. 263 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: You know, Bernie kosar One, he was a good passer, 264 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: but he was not a great passer. And when you're 265 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: in Cleveland and Buffalo, if you're going to be a 266 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: great quarterback, you got to have an arm. Mayfield doesn't. 267 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: He's a touch passer, but he's got to win. He's 268 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: got to pull games out like the one Sunday and 269 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: Willie I have no idea, but I just don't see 270 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: him being a guy that's going to bring them them 271 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: from behind a lot. And I don't think he deserves 272 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: when he gets his new contract, to be one of 273 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: the two or three highest paid, just because he's the 274 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: one doing it at that time. With that running game, 275 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: he can have a lot of success, no doubt. And John, 276 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: do the Texans have the horses in the formula to 277 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: slow down that Cleveland attack, the way they run, the 278 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: way they run, play action, bootlegs, all that stuff. Well, 279 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: what they need to do is keep the ball like 280 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: they have. They need a couple of turnovers early. They 281 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: need to keep the game closed where they cannot abandon 282 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: the run. If they have to abandon the run, and 283 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, Daveon Clowney, tack McKinley, those guys can tee 284 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: off on Tyrod Taylor and could get ugly Texans formula 285 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: for victory. They've showed it. They've not tried to hide 286 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: it since David Culley took over, and we saw it 287 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: to its perfection against the Jaguars. And they would have 288 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: to run the ball and get some turnovers to keep 289 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: a game close when they're playing a more talented team 290 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: like the Browns. John Jacksonville head coach Urban Meyer was asked, 291 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: I think yesterday ament today about the opening at USC. 292 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: Is there any way urban Meyer takes that USC job? 293 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: And how long do you think he stays in Jacksonville. Well, 294 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: he's never lied about a college job before. Right when 295 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: they started calling him Urban liar and then and Nick 296 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: Saban wasn't going to Alabama. Now it's bad timing because 297 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: it is he's one game into a job in which 298 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: he's been given the keys to the team, the city, 299 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: whatever he wants, and I can't imagine he would leave 300 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: that job for USC right now. But I never thought 301 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: Nick Saban would go to Alabama. The reason was he 302 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: told me he wasn't going to Alabama, so you can't 303 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: rule it out. Maybe the Jaguars have such a bad 304 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: season and they're so discombobulated and poorly prepared and poorly 305 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: coached like they were Sunday when David Culley totally out 306 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: coached Urban Meyer. Maybe he says, you know what, it 307 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: was nice while it lasted, But I'm going back to college, 308 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: John tonight. It's the Giants and Washington. Your thoughts on 309 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: the matchup, and it can't be fun for Joe Judge 310 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: right now if this doesn't get better with the Daniel 311 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: Jones turnover issue and other issues that the Giants have. 312 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: What a bad game, what a bad matchup? Fitz, he's 313 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: not in there where we talk about his beard. You 314 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: know you got two former Texans quarterbacks. You know you 315 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: better get another one. I know they like Heyankee came 316 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: off and he played okay. The other day. Maybe he 317 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: plays great and he keeps the job, and Fitz he's 318 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: got a new zip code again next year. And the 319 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: Giants just looked awful. So there's nothing to me to 320 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: get excited about this game unless you have to be 321 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: fans of the Giants and the Washington football team, because 322 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's the NFC East, it is 323 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: a dud general. I don't know. I'm pretty sure that 324 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: you had you watched Mourday Football. I don't know if 325 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: we've talked to you. I watched the Mannings, Yes, I 326 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: watched it all the way through, and I liked them. 327 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: I don't think they need a guest. I would see 328 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: Peyton and Eli and it's like, if you want to guess, 329 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: bring in your older brother Cooper, who's got a better 330 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: personality than both of those guys, and he ripped them 331 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: constantly and they're very close. Let Cooper come in there 332 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: and do some commentating or put Archie in there. But 333 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: ray Lewis to me, I just I'm not a fan 334 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: of ray Lewis the broadcaster. And even though Russell Wilson 335 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: was good when he was there, Eli just plammed up 336 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: and Peyton had to go well. E this e that, 337 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: so he would speak so's it's about the Mannings and 338 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: I want to see the Mannings. Peyton Manning is the 339 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: only guy I've ever had in my life since Non 340 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: Meredith that I would watch a game because he was broadcasting. Wow, 341 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: that wasn't where. That wasn't where I was going with it. 342 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: But I'm glad you took it there. Oh sorry, I'm sorry, John. No, 343 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: that's okay. No, I'm glad you did because I was like, Man, 344 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard that. I heard you say 345 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: that the other day when you were on with Up 346 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: with Seawan and Seth and I'm with you when they 347 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: dropped the Shenanians from the first quarter and just talk 348 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: basically football and didn't talk over one another. I thought 349 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: it was I thought it was pretty good, but my 350 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: question was more about the Raiders. And I just cannot, 351 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: for the life of me, John, and you have to 352 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: help me with this. I cannot, for the life of 353 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: me understand the appeal of John Gruden. I don't get it. 354 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't see him as a like a quality NFL coach. 355 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: What am I missing? Well? One of the he was 356 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: the fair haired boy when he was in Philadelphia and 357 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay and then when he got his chance to 358 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: be a head coach, he went to the Super Bowl 359 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: with Oakland, and then his popularity came, of course when 360 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: he was on TV after he won a Super Bowl. 361 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: And I think most of his popularity came from from 362 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. Plus I think that before the draft, 363 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: when he had his Gruden Football whatever it was called 364 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: that quarterback room, that people were fascinated by him because 365 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: he can be good and when he wants to be. 366 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: But and that was a great victory for them to 367 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: come from behind and get the fumble from Lamar Jackson. 368 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: I felt bad for the Raiders to lose your top 369 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: three running backs. Can you imagine losing your top three 370 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: running backs in one of your top corners. And the Raiders, 371 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: because there's such a good organization and so well coached, 372 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,239 Speaker 1: they're still gonna win games. And but it was I 373 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: was fired up to see the presentation of the game 374 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: Allegiance Stadium with fans and I can't wait to go 375 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: out there and see it in person. But it was 376 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: a great game because of the ending, just like the 377 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: Buccaneers and the Cowboys was a great game because of 378 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: the ending. And you know, not all of them are 379 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: sixteen point blowouts and not as close as sixteen really 380 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: when you look at it, John, what's your assessment of 381 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: Tennessee The Titan situation after losing the way they did 382 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: at home against there is on it and now having 383 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: to go on the road to play Seattle. They were 384 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: awful and the Cardinals did what everybody would like to do, 385 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: get up on them early, get them so far down. 386 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's not a factor. You don't worry about the 387 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: play action. And Ryan Tannehill had been out a long 388 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: time with COVID nineteen, and we see what players coming 389 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: back like Miles Garrett. Remember he missed two games last 390 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: year because of COVID nineteen. He came back, he said 391 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: it kicked my butt, and then in training camp he 392 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: disclosed that he didn't think he was better than fifty 393 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: physical his conditioning the rest of the season because of 394 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. And that's where I see Larmy Tunsil go 395 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: the distance, even though he struggled at times. That's pretty 396 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: impressive and so the Titans have had a lot of 397 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: issues with that, But I think Vrabel is too good 398 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: of a coach to let that continue. They could start 399 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: over and two. Indianapolis could start over two. The only 400 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: thing I know about the AFC South, when the games 401 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: are over the weekend, the Texans are still going to 402 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: be in first place. How about that? How about that? 403 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: No matter what happens in Cleveland, you're gonna be first place. 404 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: John the flip side of that, How good is the 405 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: NFC West in your estimation? Well, we knew it was 406 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: the best. San Francisco was going to be the worst team. 407 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: Now they're going with Jimmy Garoppoload. As long as he's healthy, 408 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: they can beat anybody. The Cardinals faded at the end 409 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: of last year and finished eight and eight, But my god, 410 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: what they did to the Titans, especially Chandler Jones, just 411 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: humiliating Taylor Lawine and then Kyler Murray being the first 412 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals quarterback since Charlie Johnson in sixty two to account 413 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: for five touchdowns in the first game. That was impressive. 414 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: And the only other thing that I saw more impressive 415 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: to me was the Saints game and Jameis Winston my 416 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: preseason comeback Player of the Year over Dak Prescott throwing 417 00:22:54,800 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: five touchdown passes and the Packers just looking so Haggard, Well, 418 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: we're contractually obligated to ask you about Green Bay and 419 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: what you think ultimately happens here. And I just think 420 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: the seventeenth game, it's fascinating. I'd love to spend more 421 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: time on it. We just can't. I just think that 422 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: it changes the flow of a season in a way 423 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: that it's gonna be hard to really quantify, obviously until 424 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: it's all said and done, and even the qualifying of 425 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: it is difficult. Well, first of all, I've doesn't have 426 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: jack to do with Squat when it comes to her 427 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: pathetic performances. Like the Titans and the Colts and especially 428 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: the Packers put on in the first week of the season, 429 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: they were just awful and they're better teams. It doesn't 430 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: mean the Saints are going to go seventeen and ozer 431 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: and win the Super Bowl, No, but it shows that 432 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: the Packers have issues that they better turn around in 433 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: a hurry. And in fact, the Titans are probably going 434 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: to start oh and two. Colts could be oh and 435 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: two as well. They got the Rams, the red hot 436 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: Rams coming in there. So so it's a season in 437 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: which you don't want to play the NFC West. Unfortunately 438 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: for the AFC South they do. All right, General, thanks 439 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: so much for being with us. What are you going 440 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: out of the Houston Chronicle. I'm writing this column about 441 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: Tim Kelly, how he's gonna contain you Devion Clowney like 442 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: they did last year in that overtime victory in Nashville. 443 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: And how happy everybody tells me Clowney is because he 444 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: should have signed there last year instead of gone to 445 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: the Titans. Okay, General, thanks so much for being with 446 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Cleveland. All right, that's John McClain from 447 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle. He'll be covering the Texans and the 448 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: Browns on Sunday noon. 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As it'll be Washington 538 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: and the New York Giants and John, I don't care 539 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: what McLain said. I'm going to watch the game. I'm 540 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: into NFL football, and even if it's the theater of 541 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: the bizarre and horrible and miserable in the case of 542 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. My in laws are Giants fans. 543 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: They're totally miserable. Misery is just dripping off of them 544 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: with what is going on. And Daniel Jones. You draft 545 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: a guy you think he's gonna be the quarterback. He's 546 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: got a lot of talent, but he coughs up the 547 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: ball like it's on fire. I'm sure you'll be watching too, right, Yeah, 548 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be watching. I gotta get actually caught 549 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: up on a couple of college games I missed, So 550 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: I'll try and probably watch the NFL game and have 551 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: a couple of streets going and kind of just get 552 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: as much football in as I can right now, because apparently, 553 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: apparently baseball was all the rage with the Harris women 554 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: last night at Dodger Stadium at Los Angeles. So I 555 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: got I know, I know, they didn't tell me. I 556 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: tried to call them, didn't answer. I tried to face 557 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: time him, no answer, and I'm about to text, and 558 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: I get it. I get a text from my daughter. 559 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: It says, we can't talk to you right now. I'm 560 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: like why, Like, oh, you're you? And then they text 561 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: me a picture of them at Dodger Stadium and I 562 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: about fell off the couch. I was like what. So 563 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait to text him a picture from First 564 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: Energy Stadium on Sunday. Gone, see where I am. You 565 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: get Dodger Stadium and I get First Energy Stadium in Cleveland. Yeah, 566 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: that you're in Cleveland and there at Chevez Ravine watching 567 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. Okay, let's play who's better. Let's do this, Okay, 568 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: who's better? NFL schedule style? All right, who's better? Better 569 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: chance to win the Cults against the Rams or the 570 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: Titans at Seattle. Now the Colts will host back to 571 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: back games with NFC West opponents to start the season. 572 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: They lost to Seattle last week. Now they have the 573 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: Rams in their gym and the Titans, who looked not 574 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: good against Arizona at home, go all the way to Seattle. 575 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: And I was trying to explain to Vander Kid what 576 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: it's like to go there. It's almost like another country, 577 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: not that they speak a different language or anything. It's 578 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: just it feels far. You know how far it is 579 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: on the map, but I think there's a psychological factor 580 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: there and it's very loud, and it's just different. It's 581 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: a tough place to win a football game. You said 582 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: this about and if AFC East teams and when they 583 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: go to New England, if you don't go up to 584 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: New England often it feels so foreign because you are 585 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: on these back roads to get there. It's just it's impossible. 586 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: A night game is just a disaster trying to get 587 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: up there. And it's such an issue. And NFC East 588 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: teams do it once a year. So NFC West teams 589 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: they go up to they go up to Seattle. Not 590 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: an issue when we went up there. I holy cow, 591 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: I will never forget looking around that field when Jimmy 592 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: Graham scored to put them ahead with how many of 593 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: her seconds left? I'm just looking around, going this place 594 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: is about to fall down. I have never been any 595 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, this is unbelievable right now. So that 596 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: is a tough place, and it's the first game that 597 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: they're all gonna be in that stadium since the end 598 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: of the twenty nineteen season, so they are going to 599 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: be geeked. And the Seahawks are coming off a win 600 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: over the Colts. I think the Colts have got a 601 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: better shot to beat the Rams just because they're playing 602 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: at home. I think the Rams on a short week, 603 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: then they've got to get on the road and travel 604 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: to Indiana. Yeah, in Indianapolis isn't the most difficult place 605 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: to play. I think our Cia was probably and I 606 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: never went in there, but it just from what you've 607 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: described to me, I think our Cia was probably tougher 608 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: for opposing teams than Lucas Oil was, and some of 609 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: that was because of the sheriff. But that said, you know, 610 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: Lucas Oil is still a tough place to play. But 611 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: I think the Rams can go in there and get 612 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: that win. But I think the Colts will have not 613 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: an easier chance. I think they've got a better chance 614 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: to win playing at home. But did you look at 615 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: their injury report today? It popped up on my Twitter 616 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: feed at some point. Darius leonard Um, Xavier Rhodes, Quentin 617 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: Nelson and gosh one other for two straight days. Dnps 618 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: not good, not good, not a healthy veteran scratch kind 619 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: of thing. That's a we got a problem kind of thing. Yeah, 620 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: I just think the Titans. Watching the Titans against the Cardinals, 621 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: I was so and look, I know a team can 622 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: look terrible in week one and kind of get things 623 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: turned around. But you and I talked about this back 624 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: in training camp. There have been such bad vibes going 625 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: on with Tennessee for for a while. Just it's a 626 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: little thing. It's it's little things here there. But Vrabel 627 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 1: has been angry the whole training camp. They really didn't 628 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: come together. Julio Jones is getting fifteen year penalties and 629 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: that's angered Vrabel even more. Derrick Henry didn't even do 630 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: much in the preseason. Danniellet covid, so he was not 631 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: ready to go there's just been bad vibes around Tennessee 632 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: this entire time. And Seattle, I think is very athletic defensively, 633 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: even though they've lost some pieces, some of the names 634 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: you recognize, they are very stout defensively. Watching him against 635 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: the Colts, the Colts just Colts couldn't run the ball 636 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: very well like you would expect the Colts too, And 637 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz can no, it's it's it's not Carson Wentz. 638 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: I'll just say that for the Colts. So I'm gonna 639 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: give the Colts the edge and having a little bit 640 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: better chance of beating the NFC West opponent this week. 641 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Carson Wentz, who was jettison from Philadelphia, is 642 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: going up against the team the jettison the number one 643 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: pick in the draft when he was picked number two, 644 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: the La Rams who got rid of Jared Goff and 645 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: two number one picks to get Matthew's Dafford. I mean, 646 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: it's just it's incredible, all right. Who's better better chance 647 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: to win the Jags against the Broncos at home or 648 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: the Texans at Cleveland. I know, it's kind of a 649 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: loaded thing. It's puts puts you on the spot a bit, 650 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: But I bring it up because really just to talk 651 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: about the Jaguars for a second. We've been talking about 652 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: tech since in Cleveland all week. We know how tough 653 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: this is gonna be. They gotta play super clean and 654 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: turn them over. But the Jags isn't in them to 655 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: have a bounce back performance against a Bronco team that 656 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: looks a little better than I thought. Maybe it's the Giants, 657 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: but who knows. Well, Yeah, I think part of it 658 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: is the Giants. The Giants aren't very good, and I 659 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: thought the Giants are gonna be better, but the Kadarius 660 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: Tony thing. Drafting him has been a nightmare. They didn't 661 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: get anything and haven't gotten anything out of out of him. 662 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: I think the Giants are actually decent in the trenches, 663 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 1: but they don't. It's nothing else, and especially Daniel Jones 664 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: just hasn't done anything, and sae Quan's not back. That said, 665 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater did some non Teddy Bridgewater things. He kind 666 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: of threw off platform, He got out of the pocket 667 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: and made some things happen that was okay. If Teddy 668 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: Bridgewater is doing that, I'd give Denver a much better 669 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: shot of being pretty darn good but you know, you 670 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: say the Jags bounce back. I don't. You know, I 671 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: can't tell if the Jags are. I can't tell what 672 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: the Jags are, you know, I mean what what is 673 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: going to be bouncing back for them? Is bouncing back 674 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a game? They just turn around it? Okay, 675 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 1: this is a definite win. I don't know if they're 676 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: at that stage yet. But I'll tell you one thing. 677 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: If i'm if I'm rband Meyer. That fourth quarter, and 678 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: yes it was garbage time, I get it, But I 679 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: watched I watched Trevor Lawrence. You did too. We watched 680 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence going down and I feel pretty quickly and 681 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: it up tempo. That might be what I do from 682 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: now on. That might be the secret sauce. Don't think, 683 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: just throw and that might be what they end up doing. 684 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: Maybe if I were them, I'd do a little bit 685 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,479 Speaker 1: more of that, because Trevor seemed very very comfortable, uh, 686 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: moving up in no huddle throughout that fourth quarter. So look, 687 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for us to go to Cleveland 688 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: and get a win. This is why on Friday's Mark I, 689 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: when I do my predictions, I never pick our game ever, 690 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: I'll I'll never go against my heart in my head. 691 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: So as far as I'll do this percentage chance of 692 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: Jags beating Denver, I'm gonna give them. I'm gonna give 693 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: them a thirty one point nine percent chance of beating Denver. 694 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: How about that that will give to Well. One thing 695 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: that jumps out at me about the Browns is the 696 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: reaction to the loss up there. Now, I know that's 697 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: a devastating loss, and it's easy to say when you're 698 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: outside the market. You were talking about this in relation to, 699 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, how people feel about Myles Garrett and people 700 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: like Jadeveon Clowney. When you're outside of the building, right 701 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: when you're outside of the market and you're just looking 702 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: from afar like hey, he's great or whatever, you know, 703 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: you might have differing opinions in the internal market, media 704 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: or fan base. But here's the thing with Cleveland. If 705 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: you're a Brown fan or part of Brown's nation, that 706 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: was a rip your heart out loss last week. They 707 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: lost to them in the playoffs. They lost to them there. 708 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: They led the game for fifty three minutes. They had it, 709 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: they had it, and they let them up for air 710 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: and that was it. And they really gave it to him. 711 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean with the punt was just awful, the fumbled punt, 712 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: and then it went on from there, and then you know, 713 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: Baker could have would have should have like thrown that 714 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 1: ball away or live to throw another pass and maybe 715 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: have another chance at it. Who knows. So it's a 716 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: devastating loss and they got to get over it, hopefully. 717 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: And you once told me you'll lose twice. Sometimes I'm 718 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: hoping the Browns lose twice on this one. Oh, we 719 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: screwed it up, and they have the talent to bounce back. 720 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: But psychologically we'll just get to them. I don't know, 721 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that might be a factor. It could be. 722 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's it. They're gonna feel the pressure 723 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: if it's close. Those fans are gonna be on pins 724 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: and needles if it's close. Hey man, we're twelve and 725 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: a half point favorites. Why are we only winning this 726 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: thing by three? Why the Texans ahead in the fourth quarter. 727 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna feel the pressure. And I think that was 728 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: the one thing that that struck me the other day 729 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: watching watching us. It didn't feel at any point like 730 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: our guys were playing with anything other than house money. Yeah, look, 731 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: Vegas didn't have them favored in any game, so they're 732 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,479 Speaker 1: just kinda let it hang out. And part of part 733 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: of how they're doing that, a major part of that 734 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: is playing clean those stupid penalties, playing the call, not 735 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: trying to make things up as they go. Coach called this, 736 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: this is the check we have, these are the rules 737 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: we follow, and they're doing it. And they did that 738 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville. They didn't they didn't try and do too much. 739 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 1: They just did each other's You know, every guy did 740 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: his job, and it's it's still the NFL. Yet doing 741 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: your job even though it's the NFL, still doing your 742 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: job matters. I think more teams beat themselves than end 743 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: up going out and winning a game. So you know 744 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: what if you if this thing gets tight in the 745 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: second half, who knows whether Baker whether a Baker Mayfield mistake, 746 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: what that leads to and the pressure they feel and hopefully, yes, 747 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: hopefully the Chiefs do beat the Browns twice. Yep. I 748 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: just have to have this D line get after Baker 749 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: Mayfield somehow. I know it's gonna be tough to stop 750 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: this run, it really is. But if you can slow 751 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: them down if you can just get off the field 752 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: for a few key third downs. And obviously on the 753 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: other end, you gotta do things right. You gotta run 754 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: the ball well. Yard per carry last week wasn't that high. 755 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean they averaged almost four yards per carry, but 756 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: you know Taylor's run was a big part of that. 757 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: They just stuck to that ground game no matter what. 758 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: And you're fine doing that. Like Cully said in the offseason, Hey, 759 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: we're fine punting or however he worded it. And everyone thinks, well, 760 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: wait a minute, you gotta be aggressive, got to attack. 761 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 1: Hang on a second. What he's saying is, don't make 762 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: the mistakes that are gonna let them beat you. You 763 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: beat them by playing clean and let them make the 764 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: mistakes by playing aggressive defensively. Yep, absolutely, and I think 765 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: you know, I think you said it perfectly. You got 766 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: your game now if if both teams, I mean, you 767 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: can look at the Browns to go, man, they got 768 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 1: They've got pro ball talent on a lot of different places. 769 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: The Texans have a lot of seasoned vets. But you know, 770 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: maybe the talent discrepancy falls Cleveland's way. Maybe maybe you'd 771 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: say that, but hot and have we seen the team 772 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: that's not as talented got and win a game because 773 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: they play it clean, they play it smart, they played physical. 774 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: And that's the one thing mark about As you said, 775 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: it defends on getting after Baker Baker, but the one 776 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: thing that and and you and I always talk going 777 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: into the game, like Thursday or Friday, we canta let 778 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: each other and go, okay, what do you think? What 779 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: do you think? And there were a lot of times 780 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: they were last I don't know seven years where I'm like, 781 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, I have no idea. I have no 782 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: idea which team's gonna show up. We got to Mida 783 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: with you know who playing? Right? Yeah? So yeah, exactly, 784 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: we didn't. We don't. I don't know. I mean we 785 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: got to Miami and fifteen, Like, what's gonna happen? I 786 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: have no idea. It's forty one and nothing a half? 787 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: You know, Okay, Well, what's gonna happen? When you go 788 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: to Seattle in twenty seventeen? You got all this you know, 789 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: off the field stuff, and you go to Seattle and 790 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: it's one of the great games ever. I mean, it 791 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: was an incredible, incredible game. And I don't even know 792 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: how you should have been in it considering all the 793 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: things that were going on this team. You ask me 794 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: now what you think, and I'll be like, we'll play physical, 795 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: we'll play hard, and I think we'll play very smart. 796 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: And as long as we don't have just that blip 797 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: on the radar screen where we lose ourselves trying to 798 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: do too much. If we don't do that, we're gonna 799 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: be okay because we're gonna end up making the other 800 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: team make a mistake because we'll be relentless in our effort, 801 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: will be excellent on special teams, and we're going to 802 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: take advantage of certain things that teams do defensively. But 803 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: we're not going to outright lose the physical battle. Teams 804 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: not just gonna punk us into submission with its physical nature. 805 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen to us. And as long as 806 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, then we're gonna be in the ball game. 807 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna be in it because we're gonna answer physically 808 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. Hashtag can't wait, Bart, Scott, 809 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: let's do it, Johnny, thanks a lot, Yeah, Mark, thank you, 810 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: all right? My X factor and maybe it's not just 811 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: enough heading it to Sunday plus Houston Methodist Minutes all 812 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: coming up, leading you into Thursday night football T and 813 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: F with the Giants and Washington It's Texans Radio. 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Those shows back 902 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,240 Speaker 1: to back Texans half hour programs ABC thirteen. You're kicking 903 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 1: it back after a day of college football to get 904 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 1: you ready for the next day's Texan stuff. It's late 905 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: Game Day Eve stuff on ABC thirteen for you those 906 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: two programs. Tyler Marcotton Company put a ton of work 907 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: into those Tyler Suttar at Dbcity, Drew Doherty and enjoy 908 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: those shows. Okay, the X factor to me is Tyrod Taylor. 909 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: You just heard about him in the promo. Can the 910 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,280 Speaker 1: guys keep him upright? All that stuff? The past Russian 911 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: is gonna be relentless. But this is part of the 912 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor revenge tour that I talked about in the 913 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: off season a little bit last night. When you're talking 914 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: about Jacksonville, that's the team that beat the Bills in 915 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs in twenty seventeen, when Taylor led the Bills 916 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 1: to the playoffs for the first time in seventeen years. 917 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 1: This week you have Cleveland. He was there for one 918 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: year and look, they loved him there, but he got hurt, 919 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: got concosted. Mayfield came in. The rest is history. He 920 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: goes to the Chargers, and remember Taylor told us in 921 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: the offseason he learned a lot from Philip Rivers with 922 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,879 Speaker 1: the Chargers the one year he's with him. Then last 923 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 1: year he's set to take over and keep the seat 924 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,280 Speaker 1: warm while Justin Herbert developed up. Buddy gets that punctured 925 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: long situation situation. It's anything but a situation when it 926 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: happens to you anyway, I think he can have the 927 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: kind of game you need. But obviously you have to 928 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 1: keep him up right, have to run the ball, have 929 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,720 Speaker 1: to get after it defensively. Houston meant that it's minutes. 930 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: Doctor Alicia Robashaw hamstring injuries. How do you prevent them? 931 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: What does the doctor say? I think the biggest thing 932 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: is that none of us take enough time for stretching. 933 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: We you know, we run, we sprint, we stop, we 934 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: change directions, we squat, we bend, we garden. If we 935 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: don't take the time to stretch out the muscles that 936 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: we've been using and working so hard, they just get 937 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: tighter and tighter. So the best prevention we've got is 938 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 1: actually stretching. And you can do that anytime. You can 939 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: do it while waiting in line at the cuntry store, 940 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: you can do it after you've worked out, when you're 941 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 1: nice and warm, and you can do it first thing 942 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: in the morning or right before you go to bed. 943 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: All right, So tell me what are the grades or 944 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: the levels of hamstring injury, because some take longer than 945 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: others to get through. Yeah, we have hamstring injuries that 946 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: happen at the insertion where that's basically at the butt bone. 947 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 1: So if you put your hand underneath your bone, your 948 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: butt and you feel that bony bone, that's where the 949 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 1: insertion of the hamstring tendon goes. And sometimes when we 950 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 1: have that injury, that one's usually one of the hardest 951 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: and sometimes that one. All right, all right, that's doctor 952 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: Alicia Roboshow. We just have to cut that short because 953 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: we're running out of a show. And I thought there 954 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: was more to that cup, but there was it. 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