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Speaker 1: Fish Stripes Unfiltered with Eli Sussman leading us into it

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Speaker 1: as the host for this special episode. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: middle of January, and we feel like it could be

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Speaker 1: kind of an evergreen concept between now in the start

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Speaker 1: I imagine, as you guys can see from the title,

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Speaker 1: this is what are we calling this? God, I need

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Speaker 1: to remember exactly what the call up Contest the Marlins

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Speaker 1: Call Up Contest. In the next couple of minutes, I'll

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Speaker 1: be explaining what exactly that is. I'm with mister and

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Speaker 1: missus Unfiltered from every single episode, Kevin Barrall and Isaacazouit,

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Speaker 1: and we have a special first time guest. It's Rob

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Speaker 1: from Pro Baseball Radar, who I know from is great

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Speaker 1: work on site and on Twitter as well. And I

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Speaker 1: think we'll just start off there, Rob, before I bring

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Speaker 1: everybody into this and walk us through what exactly this

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Speaker 1: call of contest is. Can you just explained what it

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Speaker 1: is that Pro Baseball Radar does and where people can

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Speaker 1: find it?

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Speaker 2: For sure? I start out.

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Speaker 3: During COVID as an alternative to a roster resource. So

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Speaker 3: if you go to the MLB Radar on the main page,

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Speaker 3: what we have is essentially triple A next to double A,

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Speaker 3: I think the deepest roster projections right now in the

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Speaker 3: off season that you're going to find out. There. A

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Speaker 3: ton of effort goes into it. I got some predictions.

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Speaker 3: It's just basically a performance radar two, just highlighting the

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Speaker 3: a pretty good idea of it just in general. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love using it others too, So check it out

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Speaker 3: when you got a chance.

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Speaker 1: And it's all thirty teams, just to be clear, And

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Speaker 1: that's why I thought this was a fun contrast with

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Speaker 1: at it from a different perspective as we go into

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Speaker 1: call up contests. We've done some of these draft concepts

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Speaker 1: how everybody does what we're trying to do. The objective

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Speaker 1: called up for the first time make their major league

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Speaker 1: Rob heads head to head, they're going to do a

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Speaker 1: simple as seeing which of you guys is able to

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Speaker 1: anticipate who the most call ups out of those five picks,

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Speaker 1: maybe you go five for five. I think that's probably

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Speaker 1: And I felt the best way to do it was

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Speaker 1: Before we started recording, Kevin, he's curious. He just off

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Speaker 1: in the spirit of anticipating call ups for twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: the simple question is how many players made their major

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Speaker 1: You just get a few seconds to think about it,

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Speaker 1: Whoever's closest picks first, get the idea. So how many

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Speaker 5: Okay, well you know this isn't exactly I guess a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rule five selection from Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: So he is my first overall pick. That's my pick.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, I'm up and I'm gonna take Josh

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go George Soriano with my next pick. I

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Speaker 4: Highly well, I mean first added to forty men as well, Simpsons,

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Speaker 1: Which I do want to point out for people at all,

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Speaker 2: He would have to pitch perfectly to be called up.

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Speaker 5: I'm fairly confident that Jacob Amaya will make his Majorrey Gabut.

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Speaker 5: At some point I was between him and another middle

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Speaker 2: He's proven it more at the higher levels. They just

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Speaker 5: Kimming this morning that she expects him to be part

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Speaker 5: I'm fairly confident Marlins Fenz will see him at Alan

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Speaker 3: Breaking ball is hit pretty well deep left field, will

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Speaker 2: Gone due my grand Slam for Jake Olaya. That's the

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Speaker 1: If we are recording this just a few hours after

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got I go again, right.

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Speaker 5: Sugar, just because I'm gonna go with the other guy,

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Speaker 2: With Xavier Edwards.

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Speaker 5: I believe he's also very close to major league ready

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Speaker 5: if he pretty much is in my opinion four hundred

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Speaker 2: They're very excited about him.

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Speaker 5: He's sort of the epiting of the new style of

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Speaker 5: So I think we'll see him, if not in the

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Speaker 4: And the new style also goes with Amaya, so just

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Speaker 1: So yeah, back to you, Rob Man.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a steep drop off in after that.

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Speaker 3: So next I'm going to go with Jake Mangum. I'm

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Speaker 3: Mangum because he was a perfect fit as a fourth.

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Speaker 2: Outfielder for US.

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Speaker 4: Now at the moor.

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Speaker 3: Marlins are full of fourth outfielders. That's almost all they

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Speaker 3: I think Magnum's a higher four player. He's the all

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Speaker 3: with their KATEA walk ratio. So I think Magan will

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Speaker 2: For them as a fourth outfielder, fifth outfielder guy.

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Speaker 4: All right, with my next pick, I'm gonna take Troy Johnston.

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Speaker 4: This team, really, this team currently doesn't have another first

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Speaker 4: They just traded the player that Kim Meng mentioned she

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Speaker 4: So I think Troy is just one injury away. As

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Speaker 4: as Isaac mentioned, for Amaya and Edwards to come up

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Speaker 4: and filtered guests. Hope to have them on at some point. Again,

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Speaker 4: he was maybe the hottest hitter in Double A at

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Speaker 4: one point throughout the year contact hitting. I believe it

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Speaker 4: was fourteen homers, Eli, I want to say or nine around.

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Speaker 1: It felt like half of those came in a single

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Speaker 4: A couple of the middle of the year. Yeah, this guy.

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Speaker 4: This guy's really freaking good. And I know they tried

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Speaker 4: and I believe the next first baseman after Troy Johnson

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Speaker 4: next season. So unless I'm missing a player right now, it's.

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Speaker 1: An interesting pick. But you're making quite a bit on

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Speaker 2: I believe they should.

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Speaker 4: I believe they should, but you know, at the time

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Speaker 4: they'll go Troy Johnson. I think they should at least,

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Speaker 4: and I pick again, right go ahead, Eli's funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm enjoying this so much.

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Speaker 4: No lower I'll take Sean Reynolds.

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Speaker 2: I'll take yeah, bro.

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Speaker 4: You can just take everyone that I wanted to pick

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Speaker 4: capital Sean Reynolds. Think he'll make it at some point

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Speaker 4: this year added to the forty man great season for

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Speaker 4: Beloit and Jupiter, and Jupiter and Pensacola got the final

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Speaker 4: out of that championship series.

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Speaker 2: Uh, a former.

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Speaker 4: Hitter, and if you want to call him that from

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Speaker 4: the first basement, actually funny enough. So I think Reynolds

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Speaker 4: will be pretty good. And Eli, if you want to

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Speaker 1: The first thing I want to say is that somebody

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Speaker 1: that is as high on Shawan Renolds as anybody I

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Speaker 1: So they put him on the forty man roster.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, man, they had Aladwick come up by right.

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Speaker 1: So he's been in the organization since twenty sixteen. He

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Speaker 1: his eighty grade makeup. I absolutely I love him. I

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Speaker 1: A experience. This is just his very first year on

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Speaker 1: they could use on him. I think he's just more

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Speaker 1: he is rapidly improving as a pitcher. It is still

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Speaker 1: relatively new for him. It's possible. It is possible, but

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Speaker 1: It's possible, but there's other scenarios I think where they

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Speaker 1: course of the year. We'll see. I hope you're right, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that all right, And now we are. I'll

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Speaker 1: top right here now that we're ten picks through out

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Speaker 1: thought we would through this. So to catch everybody up

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Speaker 1: that's listening and can't see the Board, Nick Enright, Juri Perez,

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Speaker 1: Josh Simpson, George Soriano, Eli Va Lobos, Jacob Amaya, Xavier Edwards,

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Speaker 1: Jake Mangem, Troy Johnston, now Sean Reynolds. Those are the

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Speaker 1: five picks, we'll go back to Rob all Right.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the goat catcher Paul McIntosh, whoa

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Speaker 2: okay undrafted of West Virginia. Check this out, checked out,

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Speaker 2: check out this fun fact.

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Speaker 3: He has a minor league career WRC plus of one

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty three out of all the players and

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Speaker 3: the Marlin's my system, that's a project to be on

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Speaker 3: the full season roster with over one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: That's the highest.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you take away the plate appearance qualifier.

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Speaker 2: It's second only to Jake Thompson.

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Speaker 3: So the guy can hit, he can produce, and I

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Speaker 3: think Austin Allen's probably ahead of him on depth chart

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Speaker 1: Okay, Alex Carver a fish on the farm. I know

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this. He's going to love that he is.

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Speaker 1: He is the number one Paul McIntosh guy.

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of us thought there was a

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Speaker 1: some point last year and instead, you know, spent the

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Speaker 1: So the big question with him is whether he sticks

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Speaker 1: him off to an easier position as well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: batted ball quality is awesome. Has moved to Isaac for

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go.

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Speaker 5: With Jeff Lindgren'll tell us a little bit about Jeff Lindgren,

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Speaker 5: the pitcher, the twenty six year old pitcher. You know,

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Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken ease. You know, pitched everywhere low a

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Speaker 5: But he's someone that you know, they need a spot start.

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Speaker 5: Reperez over here, but he is someone that I could

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Speaker 4: Be with it.

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Speaker 2: I'll go with j d Or I was gonna choose.

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Speaker 2: I'll go with j d Or. I've been here the

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Speaker 5: He the guy just gets on base and he steals bases,

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Speaker 2: And I think they don't have as much outfield depth

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Speaker 5: I was gonna go just for so everyone else I

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Speaker 5: was gonna go with CJSA as someone that, yeah, he

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Speaker 2: JD or Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And to this point, most of these yeah, we haven't

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Speaker 1: These hop fee picks who signed his minor league free

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Speaker 1: getting invites to big league camp. And presume final pick

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Speaker 1: for Rob here round five.

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Speaker 3: This is where we start getting to the Weeds guys

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Speaker 3: couple between all right, I'm gonna go with the Zach mccambley.

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Speaker 3: I think that this year the Marlins are going to

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Speaker 3: finally convert him into a reliever.

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Speaker 2: They really struggled in double A last year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he does stay starter, he might repeat

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Speaker 3: Double A. But I think the move is going to

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Speaker 3: be a reliever at Triple A. He's got sixty five

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Speaker 3: great curveball. I think we could see some Lance mccullors

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Speaker 3: like curveball usage.

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Speaker 1: Out of him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind of look alike too, they do, all right.

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Speaker 2: This is where it gets difficult with the final.

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Speaker 1: This is this is the end. This is as difficult

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Speaker 1: as it gets. The final overall pick fifteenth overall for Kevin.

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Speaker 1: So let me give Isaac's complete team. It's Nick Enright,

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Speaker 1: Jacob Amaya, Xavier Edwards, Jeff Lindgren, j d Orr, with

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Speaker 1: Rob from Pro Baseball Radar, Uri Perez Eli Via Lobo's

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Speaker 1: Jake Mangham, Paul McIntosh, and Zach mccamberley, and Kevin making

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Speaker 1: his final pick. This is not easy, but but.

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Speaker 2: But I will take.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm just proud of guy, not choosing someone

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Speaker 5: with major league service time already.

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Speaker 2: I'm proud of you, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: I'm going.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Dox Fulton. I'm taking the risk. I

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Speaker 4: think I don't think he'll be in Double A for

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Speaker 4: too long. What he did in Double A this year

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Speaker 4: was nothing short of just amazing.

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Speaker 5: What if someone gets traded to another team and makes

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Speaker 5: his debut for that other team.

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Speaker 2: Is that count as a win for Dax Holton.

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Speaker 1: No, that's that's part of the calculus is that they're

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Speaker 1: going to actually be in the Marlins organization view with

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Speaker 1: the team, so that's yeah, he'll lose that and Multon

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Speaker 1: is maybe at the risk of that. I won't believe

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Speaker 1: that they're going to trade away one of their top

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Speaker 1: prospects until they actually do it, you know, it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't They haven't really pulled the trigger on any of

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Speaker 1: those deals yet. So I like to believe that Fulton,

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Speaker 1: when he does reached big league to be with the Marlins,

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Speaker 1: maybe they surprise us between now and the end of

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Speaker 1: offseason or during the season as well. So Trek Kevin's team,

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Speaker 1: Josh Simpson, George Soriano, Troy Johnston, Sean Reynolds, and Dex Fulton.

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Speaker 1: We can spend some time talking about players that weren't

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Speaker 1: drafted that were eligible. When you mentioned CJ, you know,

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Speaker 1: hos up some of the other minor league signings in

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Speaker 1: Manuel de Jesus is a left handed pitcher on that front,

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Speaker 1: so Joe Rizzo. Joe Rizzo is another minor league signing,

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Speaker 1: but he hasn't played above Double A. Previously, and some

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Speaker 1: of the others that I had jotted down here on

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Speaker 1: the relievers side, Anthony Maldonado and Colton Hawk. A name

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Speaker 1: that I remember Craignish was reporting on last year in

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Speaker 1: spring training that could be a sleeper to make across

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Speaker 1: was Will Stewart and he's still with the organization. And

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Speaker 1: there are some really fun ones that we could go

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Speaker 1: to here, like Victor Victor Mesa.

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Speaker 4: He still Crowns Board.

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Speaker 1: On my list, Jake Eater, Jake Eater, Yeah, and some yeah,

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Speaker 1: some other ones. A sexy one for me would be

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Speaker 1: the same noon.

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Speaker 2: Yes, really, you think you'll debut.

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Speaker 1: After spending almost the whole second half of the season

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Speaker 1: at Double A last year? Has somebody that is a

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Speaker 1: ready major league ready defensively and for the moment, the

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Speaker 1: Marlins are. I mean, they do have a lot of

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Speaker 1: other infielders now above him in this situation, but as

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Speaker 1: a guy has a very particular set of skills with

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Speaker 1: his defense, with his speed, maybe the need up at

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Speaker 1: some point. And as a final reminder, you know, the

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Speaker 1: objective here was drafting guys that were predicting to debut

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Speaker 1: last year. It was thirteen guys. It's possible that they

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Speaker 1: call fifteen. I would say the chances of it being

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Speaker 1: these exact fifteen are pretty close to zero. And this

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Speaker 1: is something that we could check back in, you know,

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Speaker 1: as the season goes on, and then of course at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year to see who got closest

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Speaker 1: with this as well.

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Speaker 2: So who do you think el whose team? Do you

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Speaker 2: think he has a chance of going five or five?

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Speaker 4: Probably Isaac's in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I think when in a close situation, I'll probably just default.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I do think this is really competitive.

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Speaker 1: So just like the differences between these rosters, I thought

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Speaker 1: Isaac got the clear number one guy Nick Andrey because

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Speaker 1: this is an organization that when they pick Rule five

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Speaker 1: guys to give them every chance to make the team.

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Speaker 1: He would have to have a truly disastrous spring training

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Speaker 1: to get sent back. So because of that, you know

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Speaker 1: that I feel like that's the one pretty close to

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Speaker 1: automatic one as well. And oos and you picked up

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Speaker 1: on the Jacob A Maaya quote that Kim Ang made,

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Speaker 1: like gently committing to bring him up at some point

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Speaker 1: during this season. Zach gives you an edge, then we're

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Speaker 1: going to rob and I'm at the very end, I

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Speaker 1: love the Zach mccamberley value of all the really anybody

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Speaker 1: from round four onward, I thought mccamberley was my favorite

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Speaker 1: pick in there. He was somebody that jotted down for

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Speaker 1: the exact reason that he brought up. Even though it's

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Speaker 1: been a pretty rough journey as a starter, his stuff

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Speaker 1: should play pretty easily in the bullpen if they do

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Speaker 1: make the decision to convert him. So I like that

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Speaker 1: particular pick as well. And I mean, there's nothing not

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Speaker 1: to like about Yuri. He is when we think about

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Speaker 1: who could get traded, he's the one guy on this

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Speaker 1: list that is not going to get traded this year.

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Speaker 1: He is untouchable. So he's going to be with the Marlins.

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Speaker 1: And even if he's not going to make the team

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Speaker 1: out his spring trade, we don't think but his potential,

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Speaker 1: there's really no holding him back with the exception of

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Speaker 1: a possible injury. And then with Kevin, what do I

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Speaker 1: like to say about Kevin? He tried to win my

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Speaker 1: heart over with the Sean Reynolds pick, and I disagree

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Speaker 1: with you about that particular one, but it's hard to

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Speaker 1: like fault going with forty man roster relievers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: basically every picture on every reliever on a forty man

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Speaker 1: roster during this season, barring injury, usually gets a shot.

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Speaker 1: So from that, I think you were the one person

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Speaker 1: that did that. So those are two pretty high likelihood

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Speaker 1: ones in Simpson and Soriano to get those opportunities. I

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Speaker 1: understand the thinking behind Troy as well, and that could

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Speaker 1: look pretty good if they don't actually get a other

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Speaker 1: veteran first baseman, and so they all have positives in there.

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Speaker 1: I would lean towards about some predicts who's gonna get

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Speaker 1: the most on this, I would go with Isaac. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna be close, it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited.

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Speaker 5: How are you like the updating it every time someone

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Speaker 5: gets called, like when the open day roster gets revealed,

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Speaker 5: A point for Isaac, for Nick and right being on it?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and I mean so the premise behind why I

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Speaker 1: came up with this idea is that in running this

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Speaker 1: site for as long as I have been, no matter

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Speaker 1: where the team is in the standings, people absolutely love

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Speaker 1: call ups. There's like nothing better than somebody debuting for

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Speaker 1: the first time. Even so, usually you'd hope that the

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Speaker 1: main fan base gets excited and even if not there's

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Speaker 1: like this small section like rooting for this particular person

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Speaker 1: because of the school that he went to or because

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Speaker 1: of something specific about his journey like this, to add

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Speaker 1: just this little element to it where where you can

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Speaker 1: now be invested in particular guys getting that opportunity, it's

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Speaker 1: a no bringer. So this just came into my head

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Speaker 1: a couple of days prior to one record this, and

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Speaker 1: I'll remember for next time that this one kind of quick,

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Speaker 1: and even though it was felt like scraping the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the barrel, I felt like we could have gone

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Speaker 1: a couple more rounds and get just I mean, I

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Speaker 1: would enjoy watching you guys suffer, like the decision making

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Speaker 1: process and around six and round seven, like really reaching

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Speaker 1: for straws guys, I would have that opportunity. I think

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Speaker 1: that would be fun. But other than that, nice tidy episode,

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Speaker 1: one of the more concise episodes that we've had. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna post these rosters up on social media and

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Speaker 1: on fishtrips dot com so we could get people's feedback

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Speaker 1: as to who we think made the best picks. And

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Speaker 1: this is kind of a plate from home sort of

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Speaker 1: game as well, where I guess people can do it

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Speaker 1: on their own, like come up with how would they

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Speaker 1: rank these players in terms of the likelihood that they're

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Speaker 1: going to get those opportunities once again, So thank you

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Speaker 1: to Rob from a pro Baseball Raider for hopping on here.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to find him. You can find him on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Baseball Radar and so you can enjoy all

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Speaker 1: the tracking that he does for all thirty organizations of

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Speaker 1: these type of decisions. So let's see if his experience

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Speaker 1: and his knowledge in general of how this stuff works

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Speaker 1: will overcome Isaac and Kevin and their special focus on

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Speaker 1: the Marlins as well. We're gonna watch this play out

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Speaker 1: over the course of the whole year, so we'll figure

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Speaker 1: out what episode this is, whether it's episode thirty three,

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Speaker 1: thirty four, thirty five. We'll post it at some point soon,

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Speaker 1: depending on other unfiltered stuff we have going on. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: outside of that, thank you guys for stopping by.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 2: We got to end it off. Rights to a m