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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for

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Speaker 1: the players, by the players. Here is your host, four

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Speaker 1: teen year NFL veteran and Hall of Famer A. Nius Williams. So,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the NFL Legends Podcast. This is Dr

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Speaker 1: Kira Dockery sitting in for A. Nius Williams, and we're

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Speaker 1: talking about mental health with Eddie Mason and Ron Brewer.

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Speaker 1: So welcome back, guys. Um. You know, we sort of

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Speaker 1: ended our last conversation really starting to talk about the

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Speaker 1: importance and really the difficulty about asking for help really

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Speaker 1: for our guys and our population. I wanted to kind

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Speaker 1: of start up with that again because I just think

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Speaker 1: it's such an important thing and I wanted to maybe

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Speaker 1: get your thoughts about why is that, you know, so difficult?

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Speaker 1: Do you think, Well, I know, the first time we

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Speaker 1: had the pleasure of doing the first podcast, you know,

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Speaker 1: Iran said something that's really profound. You know a lot

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Speaker 1: of times, you know, we're taught for so many years

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Speaker 1: to not show weakness, to only show strength, you know,

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Speaker 1: to carry this bravado on the field, and then when

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Speaker 1: we come off the field, it's kind of like sometimes

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Speaker 1: you have to know how to turn that off. And

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Speaker 1: I think ultimately, at the end of the day, one

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Speaker 1: life does present all of these different challenges. You know,

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Speaker 1: you kind of have this, uh it's superhero mentality that

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Speaker 1: there you know, there's nothing that I can't deal with

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Speaker 1: until you can't deal with it, and then it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like, now what do you do? And I think

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Speaker 1: it's important that, uh, that we all understand it's men

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Speaker 1: where it's okay, uh, to show vulnerability. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't refer to it as weakness, but vulnerability. That's the

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Speaker 1: word I use. You know, there's description and in the

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Speaker 1: word it always talked about yet yet and our weakness

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Speaker 1: is strength is perfective. And I think it's one of

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Speaker 1: those deals where you know when when when it's translated,

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Speaker 1: what it means is is that yet and our vulnerability

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Speaker 1: God's strength is perfected. And I think it's a situation

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Speaker 1: where we have to understand as men and women that

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Speaker 1: it's okay to be vulnerable. It's okay to sometimes know

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Speaker 1: that sometimes you're not gonna always have the answer. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna always know how to figure it out,

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Speaker 1: and and maybe that means that it's just time to

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Speaker 1: reach out. And I think being able to have, uh,

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Speaker 1: the ability to let that pride down or let that

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Speaker 1: okay to show that vulnerability. I think that's really what

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Speaker 1: a real healing starts. And the and the growth, the

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Speaker 1: mental growth and health and wellness starts is from that.

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Speaker 1: And when an individual can get to that place, I

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Speaker 1: always say that the skuy's a limit for him, you know,

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Speaker 1: but you just have to be able to understand that

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Speaker 1: it's not weakness, it's it's vamid to be vulnerable and

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Speaker 1: being and it's okay to ask for help. And you know,

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Speaker 1: like I'll jump into and I'll say that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I tell my guys, you know, get the help first,

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Speaker 1: and then tell me you don't need it, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, Let's let's turn this around to where you

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Speaker 1: know you may be experiencing something. I see something you

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Speaker 1: you realize that you may, once you experience the help

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Speaker 1: skill set that you develop. Because I had I had

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Speaker 1: life happened. And yeah, it was one of those situations.

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Speaker 1: but he's getting the support and he loves it. Right.

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Speaker 1: Like I just think that you know, now you come

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Speaker 1: Man you that was really really good and and and

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Speaker 1: You know, we do the Bridge His Success program for

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Speaker 1: just having that support and having those counselors and having

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, man. But literally, man, he's a spokesperson for

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Speaker 1: that idea of putting your own oxygen mask on first, right,

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Speaker 1: be another way. But you know, I wanted to transition

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a beautiful pair pair because you know,

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