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You can 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 3: listen to this show on the iHeartRadio app. You can 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: also find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: country as we take you all the way up until 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: three pm Eastern time noon Pacific time here on the 14 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: Monday after a why held Fourth of July. 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: Week What do you mean? 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: A wild pre a while, a wild pre show meeting 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: of the mines and I mean we could have did 18 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: a three hour show on the industry, but you know, 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 4: behind the scenes storylines, I mean they're really doozy. Yeah, 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: definitely it's the Celsius. I blame Celsius. I love y'all's 21 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 4: drink though it is. 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 5: Uh, it's been a how was the fourth of July weekend? Huh? 23 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 5: Did you because here's the price. It's on a weekend. 24 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 5: It started on a friday, so you just gave people 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 5: an excuse to get butchered for two days. 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: After you heard the wildest story. So we got a 27 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 4: rooftop lounge on my house. Right, So we're going upstairs. Everything, 28 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: well it must not be. We were up there, we're 29 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 4: hanging out, and the way it's set up, you can't 30 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: see us up there. 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: So if something's. 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: Going on up there, you can maybe hear it possibly, 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: or if you do something like say we were to 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 4: shoot fireworks off or something like that, you might have 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: an idea that, Okay, they can get up on the 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: roof whatever. Right, But it's a balcony, it's a it's 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 4: a rooftop lone. So we go up there and we 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: have one of those. We have a safe portable fire pit. 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: Fire pit gets let lit up. But here's what, here's 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: the problem. The girls go up to do it and 41 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 4: they put five door of flames on there. Five so 42 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: you got this big ass flame and the flame was 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: giving off black smoke. Right, So we're sitting up there, 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 4: we're listening to music, we're having a good time. We're 45 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 4: looking we can see all of the fireworks from the 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: piers in the Beach City, South Bay all the way 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 4: out to wherever Orange County. You could just see all 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 4: of the fireworks going off. So we're watching the fireworks 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 4: and I'm like, man, these these firemen are going the 50 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: police are going to have a busy night because you 51 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: could see the random fire works going up right, which, 52 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: by the way, fireworks in la is really a thing. 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: Bro Oh my god. I heard fireworks from nine a m. 54 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: Literally non stop until I went to sleep at like 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: two am in the morning. 56 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, white people light fireworks off during the day. I 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: mean it was the entire day. 58 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 6: All you heard was oh the whole day. 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: Anyway, back to my point, so the fire's going up, 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 4: and I'm like, man, firemen, cops, they're gonna have to 61 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 4: run around because you know, you make these wildfires, this, 62 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 4: that and the other, and we're not even thinking about 63 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 4: and that's sure enough. You see a fire engine come out, 64 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: fire engine comes out out, a die boom, boom boom. 65 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, man, you hear some fireworks going off 66 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: in our area. So it's like the firemen come up 67 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: in our area and it's like they turned the lights off, 68 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: but they're coming up in the area. The next thing 69 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: you know, they get up and they're like one street 70 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: away from us. I was like, man, they're right here. 71 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: Something going on right then I looked at our fire pit. 72 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: I was like, this fire high. They drive past the street, 73 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: so I'm thinking they're about to go past the street. 74 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: They turned the lights on, turn the lights on, turned 75 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: down our street. 76 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: I was like, yep, they coming here. 77 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: I had to go down to the front, grab grab 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: and they were really really cool. I'm big time, you know, 79 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: support first responders. I appreciate Redondo Beach Fire Department. Uh, 80 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 4: really really cool people. So I walk them in. We 81 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: walk up, they look at it. They're like, man, everything's cool. 82 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: He's like, but your neighbors are freaking out. They are 83 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: freaking out. I go look over the ads and I 84 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 4: see a whole crowd of people in two three yards 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: looking up. Look it up out of our house. They 86 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: thought that bad boy was burning down. So anyways, I 87 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: put we put it out. But that was that was 88 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: an eventful deal. Now, in your mind, we live in 89 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 4: a day and age with with cell phones that can record. Now, 90 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: I didn't want to record it because anything shady might 91 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: have happened, like oh, get it on it. This is 92 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: on camera, Da da da. But it would have been 93 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: interesting thing to see a camera shot of the fire 94 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: engine pulling down our street, then the fire department coming 95 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: into the crib, then us having a cool conversation up 96 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: on the rooftop. 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: And then them leaving. 98 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 4: That would have been cool because that's never happened to 99 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: me before ever. So there you go. Emergency crew, first 100 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: responders came to make sure the house wasn't burning down. 101 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 5: You know what blows my mind the number of people 102 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 5: that decide, knowing all the warning signs, knowing all the dangers, 103 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 5: seeing all the injuries, seeing all that, and still being like, 104 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 5: you got it this year, I got it. Don't warn 105 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: Let's let's fire off four or five mortar bombs within 106 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 5: close proximity to somebody's house, children. 107 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: In cars and just see what happens. We weren't doing that, 108 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: by the way, but in La everybody was, Yeah they were. 109 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: I mean from nine am, literally from nine am to 110 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 4: one am. 111 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: It was non It. 112 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 4: Is not an over exaggeration to say it was non stop. 113 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 4: You could hear the fireworks going off NonStop from nine 114 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: to one am. 115 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 5: So growing up in southern California and two you might 116 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 5: remember this, But it used to be if you wanted 117 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 5: to get fireworks you had to go to a place 118 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 5: called Fillmore. Did you have to go somewhere out in 119 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 5: the moone you gotta go to film It's it can 120 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 5: drive all the way inland to this small town of Fillmore. 121 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 5: By the way, i'l pescador, a great Mexican spot out there. 122 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 5: But that was the place if you if somebody told you, hey, 123 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 5: I'm going to Fillmore, it's like, oh, hey, bring me 124 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 5: back a Roman candle, like a box. 125 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: Of Piccolo Pete's. 126 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 5: Like it was like this undercover, under the radar spot 127 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 5: that you would go to get fireworks. 128 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: Now now it seems like you can get them anywhere. 129 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 5: Like somebody's got like a trunk, then they're selling fireworks 130 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 5: out of them. Like there's some rock band trying to 131 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 5: make it in the business selling t shirts out of 132 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 5: the back of their car. 133 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 4: Get fireworks, rocket launchers, grenade launchers. 134 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: I don't understand, oozies. 135 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: It's just it used to be really hard to get 136 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: a hold of these things, and nowadays you can do. 137 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: Hey, right there, there you go some more. There's some 138 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: fireworks right there. 139 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 5: Like I was like, over the weekend, I was talking 140 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 5: Isaac Lohancrawn, who's an anchor here at Fox Sports Radio, 141 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 5: and Isaac was telling me. 142 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: He say, oh, yeah, we have a fireworks alley. I 143 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: was like, what's that. 144 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 5: He goes, oh yeah, it's an alley near our place 145 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 5: and people light off fireworks there. And he sent me 146 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 5: a video. I'm like, oh, you mean all this illegal 147 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 5: activity on video? You mean all that? 148 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: He no, no, no. 149 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 5: Sheriff came by and said, hey, you guys are good. 150 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 5: Enjoy your Fourth of July. I won't tell you what. 151 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: Wait what that's just all of a sudden allowed. But 152 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 5: apparently that's what Fourth is July turned into. I will 153 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 5: say some of the dopest fireworks shows. One is in 154 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 5: State College, the one they do i Beaver Stadium. It's 155 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 5: it's like connected and then sync with like music. It's 156 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 5: pretty dope. 157 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: Man, Like, if you're able to go to a fireworks show, 158 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: that's like really a show, like even the one at 159 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: Disney they do every night. Yeah, oh that's what the 160 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 4: lasers and fireworks and on a crazy man, when you 161 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: could do it when somebody's. 162 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: Doing it right. 163 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 4: I've never got any type of a rush or any 164 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 4: type of a crazy feeling with with fireworks. I just 165 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: rather watch them. It's never been a thing where I'm like, 166 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: I gotta like this bad, let's do it. Like that's 167 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: just never been my thing. I don't know. I mean, 168 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 4: I don't know why that is, but but some people 169 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 4: really really get off on letting off on those those fireworks. 170 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 5: Man, they love seeing they lighten the fuse. It's like, dude, 171 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: augusta win. That thing tilts over and points in the 172 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 5: direction of either other fireworks or somebody, and we got 173 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 5: a profit them. Yeah, that's all. 174 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: I was just seeing it all on social media where 175 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 4: the joints go in a different direction and went to 176 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: the garage blue start blowing the garage up, hit the 177 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 4: card and blew the car up, hitting kids like hit 178 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 4: hit family members like why you doing. 179 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: It? 180 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 5: Like I always tell this story, but I remember reading 181 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 5: about this. There was some dude in Maine. Him and 182 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 5: his buddy were out in the field somewhere like I 183 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 5: will be safe. You know, there's no uh no property 184 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 5: within within the distance, so we've got some and the 185 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 5: guy thought it would be a good idea to take 186 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 5: a mortar bomb put it on his head and then 187 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 5: light it. What here's how the ending of that story went. 188 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 5: H he wasn't going to lids anytime soon. I'll put 189 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 5: it that way. 190 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: Okay, what are you doing? 191 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 4: There was a couple of dudes that was lighting them 192 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: and then squatting on top of them, and then it 193 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: took off like and the and the and the catch 194 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: the captions be off the chain like like in my stomach, 195 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 4: like get in my belly, and you know what they 196 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: were talking about. 197 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: The man's jewels was in his belly by the time. 198 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: It's just it's the dumbest thing that people do to 199 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 4: try to go viral sometimes is during the fourth of 200 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: July fourth of July weekends that they it's crazy what 201 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 4: people do with these fireworks. 202 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's I don't I don't understand it. I 203 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: don't know. 204 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 5: And I would also say this, if you want to 205 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 5: spoil yourselves, because Collins in Chicago and Ryan Music will 206 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 5: be out there, let me just little recommendation. You go 207 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 5: to Navy Peer. There's a restaurant at Navy Peer right 208 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 5: up on top and during the summertime they light off 209 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 5: fireworks two days a week. It's awesome and the best 210 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 5: part is professionals are doing it. 211 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: Go figure, it's not. 212 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: How many professionals do you think do the fireworks during 213 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 4: the course of a fourth of July day? 214 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: Less than one percent? Now, yeah, less than one percent. 215 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: All I know is you can't comprehend it unless you 216 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 4: lived it. Nine a m. I was awaken. My windows 217 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 4: are open and I'm listening and I hear it's not 218 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 4: non stop, And at first I don't know what it was. 219 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: And then I asked a couple of people like, man, yeah, 220 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 4: it's four for July. Like, well, you may is four 221 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: for July? You wait till the night. You wait till 222 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: there's no point. It's like it's like, hey, I'm gonna 223 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 4: go lay out by the pool. It's ten o'clock at night. 224 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: You wait till dust point. You barbecue during today, you 225 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 4: set off a couple of sparklers, you throw the little 226 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: white dips. 227 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: That pop hop pop pop? Like what why is it 228 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: going all day long? 229 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: Like? 230 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: Who does that? How is this possible that I can. 231 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 4: Hear fireworks going off non stop from nine am until 232 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: I went to bid at one am. 233 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: In the morning. 234 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 5: How many NFL players do you think woke up this 235 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 5: morning and are like, thank god a year. But Alo 236 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 5: everybody can't say they need to get to camp down. 237 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 5: I need to get away from these people. I gotta 238 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 5: get the camp. I mean, JPP was on the rundown, 239 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 5: you know, try and get back in the league. 240 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 4: I mean, talk about a tailor to take caution of 241 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: of sorts. 242 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 5: By the way, Jason Pierre Paul under the radar. Great career, yes, dude, 243 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 5: I was looking at over the weekend. Ninety four and 244 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 5: a half career sacks. Yes, he's talked to it. He 245 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 5: wants to get back in the league. It's probably not 246 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 5: gonna happen at this point, but I mean, that would 247 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 5: be cool for him to get back and break a 248 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 5: hundred sacks. But that would be pretty cool. All you 249 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 5: think about with him is the fireworks incident. Well, I mean, 250 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 5: because that's just how society. 251 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: Almost got a hundred sacks. 252 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 4: He will be forever remembered for blowing his hand off, 253 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: more so than having a dope career. By the way, 254 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 4: because people don't remember things like, oh, you had a 255 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: great career. Like people forget guys I had great careers. 256 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 4: They get drafted. I you forget about it. You forget 257 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 4: about careers. You don't forget about crazy s that Fourth 258 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: of July it's gonna come up day. 259 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 5: And it's been ten years every time four guy's got 260 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 5: almost one hundred career sacks. He's got two super Bowl rings, 261 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 5: and uh, LeVar made a comment, you know, which I 262 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 5: thought was insulting before the show when I was I 263 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: was pointing out, I was like, hey, man, you know 264 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 5: Jpp's got two super Bowl rings. So I was like, yeah, 265 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 5: where he's gonna put up. I thought I was out 266 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 5: of line, which I thought was disrespectful because. 267 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: I did not say that. But you look at his career. 268 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 5: You look at his career and you go, man, that 269 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 5: guy had a great career and did a lot of 270 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 5: that after the injury, and all anybody talks about is 271 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 5: that moment on fourth of July, and every single year 272 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 5: he's going to be reminded of it. The guy came 273 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 5: back and remember when he came back and played with 274 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 5: a cast on and still you know, continued his career. 275 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's it's uh, this was a crazy weekend. 276 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 5: Hopefully everybody, uh you know, didn't make any mistakes with 277 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 5: those fireworks, even though some did like they do every year. 278 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 5: And and now NFL players everywhere are like, all right, 279 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 5: vacation's over. Training camps right around the corner. It's grind time. 280 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 5: Bar this is tis the season season, Yeah to be football, Listen, 281 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 5: I'm excited for it. There's a lot going on and 282 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 5: there's a lot to talk about. Yeah, and that's what 283 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 5: the NFL gives you, you know. And I know we 284 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 5: shouts out to Independence Day, shots out to the fourth 285 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 5: of July. But now that we've gotten those things out 286 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,479 Speaker 5: of the way, now those are the topics of conversations 287 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 5: we can touch on and also should point this out. 288 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 5: Our hearts are with everyone affected by the Texas flooding. 289 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 5: If you saw that over the weekend, devastating, it's tragic, 290 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 5: really really sad for all those families and people involved. 291 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 5: iHeart is partnering with the Community Foundation of the Texas 292 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: Hill Country to support flood relief. The Kerr County Flood 293 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 5: Relief Fund is helping provide food, shelter, medical care, and 294 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 5: long term recovery for those affected. 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We'll tell you what it is 305 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: right here on FSR. 306 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 307 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 7: at noon eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 308 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 7: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 309 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: Hey, what's up everybody? 310 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: It's me three time pro bowler LeVar Arrington, and I 311 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: couldn't be more excited to announce a podcast called Up 312 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: on Game? 313 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: What is Up on Game? 314 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: You asked, along with my fellow pro bowler TJ. Hitchman, 315 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: Zada and Super Bowl champion Yup. That's right, Plexico Burris. 316 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: You can only name a show with that type of 317 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: talent on it. Up on Game We're going to He's 318 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen 319 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 4: to Up on Game with Me, LeVar Arrington, t J. 320 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: Hutchman's Outa and Plezago Birds on the iHeartRadio, app Apple 321 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts from. 322 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a true story. 323 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: Appropriate music is a perfect song for it. It is 324 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 5: the Herd Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas 325 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 5: Knox in for Colin. 326 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: By the way, when LeVar and I we you can 327 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: normally hear. 328 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 5: Us weekday morning, six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific, 329 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: alongside Brady Quinn when it's just Lebar and I. Though 330 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 5: we call the show Black and Drack because I'm pale, 331 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 5: I look like Dracula, and Lebar he's not. 332 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: He's dark. 333 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 5: He's black, and I'm strong alone and I'm on get 334 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 5: fricked and on baby got back. Wait wait, wait, so 335 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 5: wrong song. So we'll be in for Colin today and tomorrow. 336 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 5: By the way, coming up in a little over twenty 337 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 5: minutes from now, we are going to have another edition 338 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 5: of The Herdline News starring the great Ryan Music. So 339 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 5: that'll be yours here again a little over twenty minutes 340 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 5: from now. Justin Fields is the starting quarterback for the 341 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 5: New York Jets. His teammate Andre Cisco spoke about what 342 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 5: the expectations are from Justin Fields heading into this season 343 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 5: and he seems very optimistic. 344 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 8: Getting to know him a foks as a teammate has 345 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 8: been really really special. I'm really glad that I get 346 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 8: this opportunity to get behind him and just support him. 347 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: As you know, he takes on that road. 348 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 8: As you know, we already know what quarterback means the NFL, 349 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 8: and so I'm excited for him to just prove those 350 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 8: who are down wrong and those who are supporting right, 351 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 8: because I think he's gonna have a huge year. 352 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 2: Got it. 353 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 5: Tell me if you've heard this before, Jets get a quarterback, 354 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 5: uh huh, and he's going to be I hope he's 355 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 5: going to be the one different. This is this time, 356 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 5: no no, but this time for real, Like this is the. 357 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: One that's going to be different. Like this one here. 358 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 5: This is like when I count my son down when 359 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 5: I'm trying to get him to do something. I was like, hey, 360 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 5: I'm giving you to the count of five and then 361 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: I'll get to four and give them three. 362 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, But you got to know what the consequence 363 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 4: is before you do to count down, because if you 364 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: don't have a consequence, then it will never work. 365 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 5: The problem is I'm like the Jets because I'll get 366 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 5: to four and then I go four and a quarter, 367 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: Oh no, four and a half. Oh no, you know, 368 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 5: because you know it's going to go bad. It's like, 369 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 5: you know what's going wrong. It's like the Jets do 370 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 5: is for their quarterbacks. They're like, hey, you know what, 371 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 5: he's the guy this time, right, And then it's like 372 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 5: week eleven and they've won three games, like yeah, but no, no, no, 373 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 5: this week, everything's going to change, and it just gets 374 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 5: pushed down the road and down the road and down 375 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 5: the road. And I hope it works for Justin Fields. 376 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 5: A lot of people think maybe you should have gotten 377 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 5: more of an opportunity In Chicago, A lot of people, 378 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 5: including people in Pitts, think that he should have gotten 379 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 5: more of an opportunity, especially later in the year when 380 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 5: Russell was starting to struggle a little bit. But we've 381 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 5: seen this so many times before, and I think that's 382 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 5: what makes the Week one matchup so interesting is all 383 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 5: the parallels. Because Justin Field said no to the Steelers 384 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 5: to join the Jets, the Jets said no to Aaron 385 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 5: Rodgers and signed Justin Fields, and now Rogers is with 386 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 5: the Steelers and they're going to meet up in the 387 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 5: first game of the season. Yeah, it's just like all 388 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 5: the parallels make that matchup even more interesting as we 389 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 5: get closer. 390 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: You know Tanner and Strange, right, Strand he's the new coordinator. 391 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: He was the passing game coordinator for the Detroit Lions. 392 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 4: They had some really really good success with that scheme 393 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 4: and what they've had. This is a team, this Jets 394 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: team has good bones personnel wise. You look at the offense, 395 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 4: they have players everywhere. You look at the defense, they 396 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 4: have players everywhere. There really is no real reasoning outside 397 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 4: of how horrible the dysfunction is within the up top 398 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 4: regions of the franchise as to why this team should 399 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: be in the position they're in right now, which is 400 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 4: a not very respectable, not very successful, not a winning organization. 401 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 4: So when you look at this scenario for Justin Fields, 402 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 4: I say, okay, they bring in a qualified guy that 403 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: had success in Detroit with Aaron Glenn on the defense 404 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 4: side of the ball. So Aaron brings him over to 405 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: New York for Justin Fields. For the other guys that 406 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: are part of this organization at this point, it's going 407 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 4: to take a collective belief, starting with Woody Johnson and 408 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 4: allowing for the culture to be developed the way that 409 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn understands a culture needs to be developed to 410 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: be able to win and to be competitive. Ken Woody 411 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: Johnson change the spots on his coat from what they 412 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 4: have been. The answer is unequivocally no, it's not going 413 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: to happen. 414 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: But what you can do, what you can do. 415 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: For the sake of your team, for the sake of 416 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 4: your franchise, for the sake of the fans, for the 417 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: sake of your players. You can stop being a presence 418 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 4: that creates the dysfunction, remove yourself from the equation. Allow 419 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: the people to do the job that you delegated, that 420 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 4: you hired to do the jobs. 421 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: Allow Aaron Glenn to develop the. 422 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: Culture as a head coach as that applies to the 423 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: elements and the spaces it applies for this team. The 424 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 4: team has a good enough personnel where you can have 425 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 4: success with Justin Fields as your quarterback. 426 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: That's not a qualifier. This is a top. 427 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: Draft pick not too long ago that a lot of 428 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 4: people were hanging their hopes and dreams on that he 429 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 4: could be the quarterback of the future for another team 430 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 4: that has done the same exact things in terms of 431 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 4: what they've said about quarterbacks in Chicago. 432 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: So to me, the fact that it didn't. 433 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: Work out in Pittsburgh for Justin Fields, I think that's 434 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: more so a wash scenario. I do not look at 435 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: it as why would you think Justin Fields is going 436 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: to have success in New York when he didn't even 437 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 4: have success in Pittsburgh. I'm not going to draw that conclusion, Jonas. 438 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: I am going to look at it from the perspective 439 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 4: of does he have a fair opportunity to have success 440 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 4: in New York? 441 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 442 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: I don't know because I don't know what the dynamic 443 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: is between ownership and culture of. 444 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 2: The new head coach. If the if the new. 445 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 4: Head coach has an opportunity to build the culture in 446 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: an organic, strong intentional way, yes, all of them have 447 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: an opportunity to have success and have it right away 448 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 4: with the amount of talent that they have. But the 449 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 4: big if here is if ownership and culture remains the 450 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: same and it continues to you know, keep keep them in, 451 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 4: you know, like bumpers and and and playing playing uh bowling. Right, 452 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: if you have the bumpers up and you're you're you're 453 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 4: really restricting them and what it is they're able to do. 454 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: I don't think there will be enough growth. 455 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 4: I don't think there will be enough positivity and structure 456 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 4: for it to turn into the culture uh that Aaron 457 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 4: Glenn is probably hoping that he's able to do. 458 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: By the way, sidebar on that if you're an adult. 459 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 5: In fact, I'll just put it this way, anybody over 460 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 5: the age of nine, if you use bumpers when you bowl, 461 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 5: you should be arrested immediately. And I'm talking at least 462 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 5: a month behind, like like hard time. 463 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: You can't really if you're a real bowler. There's no 464 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: possible way you can bowl legitimately. If you're a real 465 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 4: bowler and you have you can't be taken serious. 466 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: No, you can't be taken serious. Yeah, you just can't 467 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 2: spin it. 468 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 4: You can't spin it the way that unless you're spinning 469 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: it directly down the center triangle or maybe the second 470 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: triangle out you can get it, but it's not going 471 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 4: to be as good an angle if you're going to 472 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 4: spin that, bad boy, and it's going to go out 473 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 4: to that like third fourth triangle on on the you 474 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 4: know what is it on the on the rumway or 475 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 4: whatever you call it, the lanes, the lanes. Yeah, that's 476 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 4: that's you can't have that because you're going to hit 477 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 4: the bumper. Yeah, I would agree with you, right, I'm 478 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: just just making. 479 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 5: Sure so the Jets side of this, like I, I 480 00:24:55,040 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 5: am skeptical that Justin Fields has this success, and you know, 481 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 5: like Andre Cisco says, well, we're going to see him. 482 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: You know, I can't wait till he's gonna prove a 483 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 2: lot of people wrong. 484 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 5: All right, Well, I'm skeptical of it, as you laid out, 485 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 5: because of what's going on around him. Because the Jets 486 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 5: have had a lot of talent over the years. Joe 487 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 5: Douglas drafted, Well, they've had a lot of talent there. 488 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 5: And I'm always a believer of Listen, it's not about 489 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 5: the furniture. It's about the foundation, all right. If you've 490 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 5: got really nice furniture in the home, but the foundation 491 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 5: is cracking, sooner or later, that stuff's getting getting sucked 492 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 5: down into a sinkhole somewhere. It's just gonna happen. And 493 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 5: I look at it and I go, yeah, he's got 494 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 5: all the talents. There's talent there, there's pieces there. There's 495 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 5: a reason why Rogers was open to going there because 496 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 5: he saw that man this is a place where we 497 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 5: could win. They've drafted well and the whole thing was 498 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: a disaster. But let's just say hypothetical, Justin Fields thrives 499 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 5: in New York. That's a really bad look for a 500 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers and a really bad look for Mike Tomlin 501 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 5: because Mike Tomnn reportedly was the guy who said no, no, no, 502 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: we're going to stick with Russ the entire way. There 503 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 5: were people there, like Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator in Pittsburgh, 504 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 5: who wanted Justin Fields to take over. There was a 505 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 5: lot of people there who didn't want Justin Fields to 506 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 5: lose the job at all. And if all of a 507 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 5: sudden he decides because the Jets get because the Steelers 508 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 5: gave him a low ball offer reportedly to go to 509 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 5: the Jets, and the guy that was in the building 510 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 5: that people were telling Mike Tomlin should be the starter, 511 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 5: goes to the Jets of all places, and thrives. That's 512 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 5: a really bad look for Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers, 513 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 5: which is another subplot to this whole matchup and this 514 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 5: whole situation. 515 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 4: As a season planer, what I'll say is he's never 516 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 4: come close to breaking three thousand yards passing the ball. 517 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: He did not show the ability to push the ball 518 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: downfield at a level that moved people to have the 519 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 4: belief that he's the long term answer. That's just the 520 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: reality of what took place last year. Now, if that 521 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 4: had something to do with the play calling or that 522 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 4: has something to do outside of him, I don't know, 523 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: but he what worked against him was when Russ got in, 524 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: he was pushing the ball downfield and they were having 525 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 4: success when he got in, and that early success. Whoever 526 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: made the decision, it made the decision, which Mike Tomlin 527 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: put himself out in front of it and said it 528 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: was his decision. It made him look like he made 529 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: a really good decision. Now what that looked like or 530 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 4: what it looks like moving forward from what it looked 531 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: like moving forward with Russ. They did not bring Russ back. 532 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 4: So Russ did not do a great enough job where 533 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin putting himself out front of him saying Russ 534 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 4: is our guy, that did not equate to him coming 535 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 4: back and being part of the Pittsburgh Steelers for this 536 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 4: next upcoming season. Now, when I look at Justin Fields, 537 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 4: I think it's a tremendous risk to think that he's 538 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 4: going to go from a sub he gets to mid 539 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 4: two thousands, the highest he's ever gotten in passing yards, 540 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 4: it's twenty five hundred yards in passing the ball. That's 541 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: not very impressive at all. Damn is that impressive? Is 542 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 4: that impressive? It's not, you know, I mean, I mean, guys, 543 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: guys challenge Saquan almost ran for how many yards? The 544 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 4: bottom line here is that I don't think you're going 545 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: to get to the next level of competition with a 546 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: quarterback that can't break three thousand yards plus throwing the 547 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 4: ball during the course of a season. I don't think 548 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 4: you can call somebody an elite passer that can be 549 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 4: a franchise guy for you if they can't break and 550 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 4: have those types of seasons where they produce more than 551 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 4: seventeen touchdowns in a season. 552 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: It's just not to me. 553 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: It's a it's a stretch, and it's a long shot 554 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 4: to think that at this point you're actually going to 555 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 4: be able to see justin fields, be this quarterback that 556 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 4: we've never seen at the pro level. 557 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all about him using his legs like that's 558 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 5: always been his what separates him from everybody else. When 559 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 5: he had those huge, big plays in Chicago, it was 560 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 5: all about him using his legs. When you know, there 561 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 5: was a game his final year in Chicago where everyone said, man, 562 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 5: this is why they got to keep Justin Fields and 563 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: trade the number one pick because he had one game 564 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 5: late in the year against Atlanta and he was lights 565 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 5: out unbelievable. But then the next week they finished the 566 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 5: season at Green Bay and it was the same sort 567 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 5: of Justin Fields that you've seen. And when you bring 568 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 5: up the which which makes me think about this as 569 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 5: well too, when you because there's almost like a like 570 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 5: a triangular quarterback storyline to watch, and it's how does 571 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: Justin Fields do? 572 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: How does Aaron Rodgers do? How does Russell Wilson do? 573 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 5: Because they're all kind of connected in a weird way 574 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 5: to where Rogers had conversation with Brian day Ball. They have, 575 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 5: you know, a great amount of respect for each other. 576 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 5: Russell Wilson's now with the Giants, Justin Field's and the Jets, 577 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers I don't even recall, and 578 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 5: we talked about this at the time. Did Pittsburgh even 579 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 5: try and make an offer or an effort to keep 580 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 5: Russell Wilson. I know they did. Justin Field I didn't 581 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 5: hear that. I don't think they even tried. 582 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: I did not hear that. 583 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 5: Which, like you look at those three quarterbacks, you go, well, 584 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 5: Justin Fields hasn't really proven it. You know, Rogers, you know, 585 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 5: seems like the end is near. Russ really wants to 586 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 5: keep playing and really and Pittsburgh didn't even try and 587 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 5: keep Russell Wilson, Like there wasn't even a discussion about 588 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 5: it. It was like, oh, cool, he wants to come back here. 589 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: Nice. 590 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 5: He doesn't get along with the offensive coordinator. So all 591 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 5: three of those teams are kind of all connected in 592 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 5: this weird way. And look, like I said, I hope 593 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 5: it works out for Justin Fields. I'd like to see 594 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 5: him get an opportunity. It'd be nice if the New 595 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 5: York Jets had some stability and we're back to their 596 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 5: winning ways like they were when Rex Ryan was there. 597 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: I'm just skeptical, man. 598 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 5: And I also think, could you imagine being a Jets 599 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 5: fan knowing deep down in your soul, when you talk 600 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 5: to people close to you, knowing I'm never going to 601 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 5: see my favorite team win a Super Bowl? 602 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: What's that feeling like? Well, especially when your tea. Oh 603 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: they don't dang. I mean, I don't know. 604 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to make this about the Steelers either, 605 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 4: but I mean, if you think about it, there's a consistency. 606 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett's best year in Pittsburgh was in twenty twenty two, 607 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 4: twenty four hundred yards, all right, Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson 608 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: had no more than two thousand. Oh, Justin Fields didn't 609 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 4: break two thousand in Pittsburgh, but Russell Wilson had what 610 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: I believe to be twenty five hundred as well. So 611 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: nobody is breaking Nobody is breaking the bank on passing 612 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 4: yards and Pittsburgh, which begs for the question of what 613 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 4: is what is the idea of what you had twenty 614 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 4: four hundred to two and eighty two yards for Russell 615 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 4: Wilson last year, last season. Nobody's getting a ton of 616 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 4: yards passing the ball from Pickett to Justin Fields to 617 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. Yeah, they haven't. 618 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh hasn't had an answer at quarterbacks since probably second 619 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 5: to last year of Big Ben because I think the 620 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 5: last year it was a little rough. They tried to 621 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 5: draft Kenny Pickett and make that work. That didn't work 622 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 5: at all. That that fell apart and he ended up elsewhere. 623 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 5: And then they bring in Russell Wilson and Justin Fields 624 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 5: because it was on the cheap. Justin Fields, they were 625 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 5: winning games. But Russell Wilson came back from the injury 626 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 5: that he was that he was dealing with. I believe 627 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 5: it was a calf issue and trained camp and then 628 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 5: he came back and Yeah, he did give them a 629 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 5: threat to throw deep. He gave them something down the field, 630 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 5: but it just they haven't had an answer there. In 631 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 5: six seven years, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, you 632 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 5: have had three quarterbacks play for your team, and now 633 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 5: going into twenty five, you. 634 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: Will have four. 635 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: Yeah to me again, Now, if I'm the New York Jets, 636 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 4: I'm saying I Am going to have a measured feeling 637 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 4: of confidence towards Justin Fields. But at least he's younger, 638 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 4: he still has an athletic ability about him, and the 639 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 4: possibilities of his trajectory still going up. Trending up is 640 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 4: a possibility because I don't feel like guys are being 641 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 4: utilized the right way in the Steelers' offensive system. That 642 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 4: would be what I'm thinking. If I'm the New York Giants, 643 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 4: and that's what I'm thinking. If I'm the New York Jets, 644 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 4: and that's what I'm thinking. If I'm the Cleveland Browns, 645 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 4: And to me, now we get an opportunity to have 646 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 4: comps in terms of what is Russell Wilson going to 647 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 4: do this year? What is Kenny Pickett going to do 648 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 4: this year? What is Justin Phil's going to do this year? 649 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 4: And all of those things will relate back in a 650 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 4: way to what's taking place in Pittsburgh and what Aaron 651 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 4: Rodgers is doing in Pittsburgh and how they're coaching things 652 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. I'm curious, ken Aaron Rodgers break three thousand 653 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 4: yards throwing the ball in Pittsburgh this year? Yeah, okay, 654 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 4: that should. 655 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: You're saying, yay, he should say he stays healthy. I 656 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: think he will. 657 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: Well, let's see it is the last three quarterbacks there have. 658 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 2: Not done it. Yeah, well, and they're not Aaron Rodgers. 659 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 2: I get that. 660 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 4: But the last three quarterbacks in Russell Wilson isn't a 661 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 4: bad name. He's got the same amount of Super Bowls 662 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 4: as him. 663 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, Mason Rudolph might have done it if 664 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 5: he didn't get assaulted by Miles Garrett. You never know 665 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 5: things are us which you want to take it to wire? 666 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: It is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, 667 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 5: Jonas Knox in for Colin. You want to talk about 668 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 5: the most heated rivalry in all of sports? The answer 669 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 5: may surprise you. We've got it. 670 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 7: Next, be sure to catch live editions of The Herd 671 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 7: Weekdays and Noone Easter not a Empacific involving one of. 672 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 2: The all time greats. 673 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 5: We'll get into that for you again a little over 674 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 5: twelve minutes from now before we get to the Herd 675 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 5: Line News. Though, a reminder that shortly after the show, 676 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 5: the podcast will be going up. If you've missed any 677 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 5: of it, be sure to check out the pod search 678 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 5: Herd or two Pros wherever you get your podcast. Be 679 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 5: sure to also follow, rate and review the podcast. Again, 680 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 5: just search Herd or two Pros wherever you get your podcast. 681 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 5: You'll see today's show posted right after we get off 682 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 5: the air. 683 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 2: No, no, no, heard on the news. 684 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 7: This is the Herd Line News. 685 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: Ryan Music. Yeah, okay, yeah, let's get it going. Let's 686 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: get it going, all right. 687 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 5: I hope everyone had a wonderful fourth July weekend on 688 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 5: a much better weekend than the Dodgers. 689 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 2: That's right. 690 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 5: Tough series against the Astros, Greg. 691 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 2: Dewey trying to fest pomp over here. 692 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 5: Tough series against the Astros getting swept at home, including 693 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 5: an eighteen to one loss, the worst home loss in 694 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 5: franchise history, getting outscored twenty nine to six over the 695 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 5: entire series, and despite both teams having won World Series 696 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 5: title since that infamous clash they had back in twenty. 697 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 2: Seventeen, bad blood remains. 698 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 5: Jose Altuve of the Astros was booed throughout the entire weekend, 699 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 5: and let's take a listen here to oral Herscheizer and 700 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 5: what he had to say on sportsnet LA. 701 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: It hard to deep. 702 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 9: Center field has on the round on tournay wins, this 703 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 9: one wedge itself in the bottom of the wall and 704 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 9: Cam Smith flying into second, apering there with another extra 705 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 9: base sit for the Astros, double homer double, so looking 706 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 9: third against Kasparius. 707 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: I don't want a looking old room. 708 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 10: In some ways, they're swinging at these breaking balls like 709 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 10: they know what it's coming. These bad pitch it's really 710 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 10: a very good pitch. Blow it away probably would have 711 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 10: ended up by the ankles if it would have made 712 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 10: it past the back. It's the oldest thing that you analyze. 713 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 10: You analyze your grip, your your delivery, your glove position 714 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 10: on different pitches. 715 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 2: I might get you. 716 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 5: They had no answers. It was the most worst loss 717 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 5: by the Dodgers in the history of the stadium. So 718 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 5: still it's still making hints to those uh sign stealing allegations. 719 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 5: I was there yesterday too, guys. Oh yeah, oh man, 720 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 5: clean sweep, oh man, you know left. 721 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: I had. 722 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 6: I had guys next to me going Cheetah was like, yeah, 723 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 6: I gotta trush. 724 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 2: Can you can bang? 725 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 5: Then? 726 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 2: And then he hits a home run. 727 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 5: By the way, Greg Towey, the diehard Astros fan, said 728 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 5: he wanted to be referred to as jose Al toohey 729 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 5: moving forward, which you know what, you're. 730 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: A heartless bastard. I have to damn what huh what? 731 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 4: What? 732 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 2: Who said that? 733 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 7: It is? 734 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 5: By the way, you know what's great about this rivalry. 735 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 5: It's never going to go anywhere, and they don't even 736 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 5: play that often. But because of what happened in twenty 737 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 5: seventeen and the sign stealing and the trash cans and everything, 738 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 5: that came along with it. Dodger fans will never let 739 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 5: it go and Astros fans when something like this happens, 740 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 5: even after they won like both teams of one World Series, 741 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 5: since like you would figure whatever, listen, it was in 742 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 5: the past, it's never going. 743 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 2: To be in the past. No, there's always going to 744 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: be real. 745 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 6: I mean, as soon as oral said that, everyone's like, 746 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 6: oh my, here we go again, right, And he was 747 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 6: making a very innocuous comment about maybe ei're tipping their pitches. Yeah, 748 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 6: he didn't say they were cheating. 749 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, everybody saying jumps to like, yeah, the cheating 750 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 4: was saying not wanting to open the world right, right, 751 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 4: that was. 752 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 2: Trying to set the stage. 753 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 4: I'm not a groupie or anything, but I'm just saying, 754 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 4: I mean, if you say it before you say your point, 755 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 4: you're saying that's what y'all want, and you wanted to open. 756 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 5: That only guys that are still there m kohlers too, right, Yeah, 757 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 5: And so I look at it, I go, all right, man, 758 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 5: it's the nostalgia. 759 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 4: I mean, and it's early in the season, right, Like 760 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 4: you're not far enough in the season where things really 761 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 4: matter too much, right, So finding something that that gets 762 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 4: people going. I mean, that's why not take advantage. 763 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 6: The only thing I can think of, yes this weekend 764 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 6: watching this areas was Dodger fans just need to quit 765 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,479 Speaker 6: booing him because the more they blew him, the better 766 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 6: he does. 767 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, just reverse psychologist. 768 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 4: That's the worst when you get an athlete that's good 769 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 4: with booze at least if you're the booer. 770 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 5: Do you think do you think, all right, so Max months, 771 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 5: he's injured, all right, and he's got he's dealing with 772 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 5: this sprain, knee or whatever he's got going on, he's 773 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 5: going to be out for weeks. Do you think the Dodgers, 774 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 5: if the price was the price is right, would they 775 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 5: ever trade for Bregman. I don't think they would. I 776 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 5: don't think they would ever bring him in ever, because 777 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 5: he's got the staying at the Astros with him. 778 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 6: There's been a lot of talk about like the gout 779 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 6: the former Astros like Bregman, Tucker, you know, the Verlanders, like. 780 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: He wasn't even on the team though he wasn't, but 781 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 2: he was still there. 782 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 6: If you're there at that during the run, you're gonna 783 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 6: be associated the farms, right, Yeah? 784 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: Is that deep? 785 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 4: If you were there, You're going to be associated with 786 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 4: did you drive by Houston at all? 787 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 10: Like? 788 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 5: Did you did you take a connector flight out of Houston? 789 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 2: You know, you can't be in part. You can't be 790 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: a part of this organ Those guys got booed. They 791 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: got booed when they were in La or anywhere else, 792 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: and they just. 793 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 5: I wonder if the price was right and Bregman was available, 794 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 5: would they make a move for that? 795 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: And I just don't think they would. I don't think 796 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 2: they would either. 797 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think there's any chance of that happening. 798 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 2: And we can wrap up with this real quick. 799 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 5: US men's national team coming up short in the Gold 800 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 5: Cup final against Mexico two one controversial note call in 801 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 5: the sixty. 802 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: Six minute controversial they did a no call of video. 803 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 5: Sister review also upheld the fact that there was no 804 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 5: handball in the box. 805 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 4: Wait, what if they would have switched that one out? 806 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 4: What if the US would have won on a technicality 807 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 4: like that in Mexico plus one. 808 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: Fifty From what I hear, that's from what I hear. 809 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 2: That's what somebody. 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