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<v Speaker 2>Hello, welcome to another edition of nightcav. I am Shannon Sharp,

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Bengals. Great, thanks for joining us. Let's jump right

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<v Speaker 2>into it, Ohoe. Tonight, the Seahawks hammer the Giants twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four to three. Remember they got beat forty nothing at

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<v Speaker 2>home open the night against the Cowboys. Cowboys, Daniel Jones

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<v Speaker 2>was sacked ten times, two picks fumble loss. Let's just say,

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<v Speaker 2>Danny Dims tonight wasn't worth a wooden nickel what you

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<v Speaker 2>got for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Daniel Jones. I love him obviously. He is

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<v Speaker 4>the forty million dollars quarterback in the Big Apple. The

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<v Speaker 4>New York Giants. They decided not to pay Saquon Barkley obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>even though Saquon Barkley is hurt, I think he could

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<v Speaker 4>have he could have helped a little bit to that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it would have changed the outcome of

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<v Speaker 4>the game. But Daniel Jones, just watching him play the

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<v Speaker 4>first half his longest, his longest pass in the first

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<v Speaker 4>half with seven yards. With seven yards, that's not going

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<v Speaker 4>to get you a w at all at all. Darren Waller, if.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken, had two catches, Yeah, two catches, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken. They were moving the ball. They were

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<v Speaker 1>moving the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Down the field. They were fishing. But you had a fumble.

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<v Speaker 4>That fumble when when that Daniel Jones strip sacked, slip

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<v Speaker 4>sacking and get you know what, the see off gout

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<v Speaker 4>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>They got points out of that. There was a picks

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<v Speaker 1>there was a pick six.

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<v Speaker 2>Who did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones? Okay, Devin Witherspoon played out of his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm i'mnn still imna stall, imna sick with the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants right now.

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<v Speaker 4>It was an atrocious showing by the Giants offensively. If

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<v Speaker 4>there was a shiny light or a glimmer of hope

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<v Speaker 4>for the Giants, it was Keevon Thibodeaux.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Kevon Thibodeaux.

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<v Speaker 4>He played some good goddamn football tonight and was one

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<v Speaker 4>of the bright spots on the defensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they say money doesn't change you, it makes

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<v Speaker 2>you more of what you already are. In sports, money

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't change you, it makes you richer of what you

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<v Speaker 2>already are. Daniel Jones is a richer average quarterback. And

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<v Speaker 2>somehow owners and general managers think that, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>if we paid this guy, he'll all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>get it. That's not how it works, O Joe. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't say if a guy's lazy, well I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 2>him a hundred million dollars, then that's gonna motivate it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not self motivated, it's gonna be hard for

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<v Speaker 2>money to motivate you. And Daniel Jones is an average quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he is. And somehow they thought by giving

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<v Speaker 2>him forty million, what was gonna change what he actually is?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think we say he was an average quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>based on the standard that we hold quarterbacks to. Your

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<v Speaker 4>paid Mannings, your Tom Brady's, your Patrick Mahomes, your Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Burrows the upper echelon of quarterbacks in today's draft to

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<v Speaker 4>be yeah, yeh, yes it is, but it hasn't panned

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<v Speaker 4>out to be such. It hasn't panned out to be such.

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<v Speaker 4>But with the market, what the market was with with

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<v Speaker 4>with him being up as far as this rookie contract,

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<v Speaker 4>the timing, I mean, he just that that is what

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<v Speaker 4>he commands in general, whether he wants to or not.

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<v Speaker 4>They had the pay them because where else were you

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<v Speaker 4>going you needed a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask you the question, what can back? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>ask your question, sir. The housing market is booming, right

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<v Speaker 2>If the house isn't worth twenty million, I'm not paying

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<v Speaker 2>twenty million because that's just what that's what the market.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not That's not the way the NFL works. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know how hard it is to find a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>You understand how hard you pay one.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just even though you don't you do you

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<v Speaker 2>believe the Giants actually think this guy can take them

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<v Speaker 2>to a Super Bowl? Yes? Or no? Deep down do

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<v Speaker 2>I believe I'm not the Giants. I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>cut in the check the Giants in order. And man,

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<v Speaker 2>you said about him in Week one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, I'm I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they have the tools to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to take the Giants to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they have the tools because they not

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<v Speaker 1>using They not used.

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<v Speaker 4>For one, with the tools they do have at their disposal,

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<v Speaker 4>they not using them the right way. They not using

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<v Speaker 4>them the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>They just not.

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<v Speaker 2>What here's the thing? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 4>And now that I think about it, I think about

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<v Speaker 4>Rerek Grossman, right, Remember Rek Grossman took the Chicago Bear

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<v Speaker 4>to the Super Bowl because that d for one, the

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<v Speaker 4>defense was good, right, the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>And they ran the football with Thomas Jones and.

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<v Speaker 1>They ran the football. Obviously it is a past happy league.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they have a great, great weaponry over there. Sterling

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<v Speaker 1>Shepherd said, we don't we don't need, we don't need.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need superstars to get that.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need superstars. You gotta have superstar receivers or

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<v Speaker 2>superstar quarterback. You can't have average on TAPA average and

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<v Speaker 2>expect greatness. When did that happen you?

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have to be great to win a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>When is the last time we had a great receiver

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<v Speaker 4>to win a Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 2>You had a great quarterback's Patrick Mahold, not a great

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback quarter average. You're telling me you could take an

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<v Speaker 2>average receiver, an average quarterback and expect greatness. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>what you're telling me?

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<v Speaker 4>You know it comes into play. You know it comes

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<v Speaker 4>into play. If you have average, an average at receiving quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>you knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>Comes into play. Then you know we're at rich.

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<v Speaker 4>But listen, that's where your coaching comes into play. That's

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<v Speaker 4>where your play calling comes into play. That's when if

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<v Speaker 4>you play spades right and you get a certain hand

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<v Speaker 4>and you get a car, the cars that you are

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<v Speaker 4>dept you got to play a different kind of way

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<v Speaker 4>to win. You gotta play the game in different kind

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<v Speaker 4>of way. If you want to win, Oh ch'all the

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<v Speaker 4>cars that you are dealt, you gotta be able to

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<v Speaker 4>figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't. The reason do you believe the pages when

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<v Speaker 2>they was winning all of those Super Bowls? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>believe they could have won I'm not the first one notwithstanding,

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<v Speaker 2>but do you could have you believe they could have

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<v Speaker 2>won those Super Bowls without the greatness of Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have taken any other average quarterback. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>leave everything else the same. The only thing I'm removing

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<v Speaker 2>is Tom Brady. Do you believe they win those championships? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Now with that being said, you just told me you

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<v Speaker 2>can take an average quarterback, average reiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. No, No, that's that's not what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying if you have an if I don't like

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<v Speaker 4>calling nobody average.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the NFL. They're they're there for a reason.

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<v Speaker 4>He are the one percent levels. Okay, there is levels,

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<v Speaker 4>but listen to me. If you have an average quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>or average quarterback room or average quarterback, if you have

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<v Speaker 4>average receivers, that means the coaching philosophy, the scheme in

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<v Speaker 4>what you do and go out there a week in

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<v Speaker 4>and week out, has to be that much better.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be that much better. That's where the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching comes into play.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you it's not excellent O's. It's Gym's and Joe's.

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<v Speaker 2>So you keep telling me coaches. Coach, Okay, coach is

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<v Speaker 2>he not great? How you how is he doing without

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<v Speaker 2>the greatness of Brady?

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Belichick is is a defensive mind, right coach.

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>He was defense with John Brady.

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<v Speaker 4>The defensive minded coast though, how's the New England? How's

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<v Speaker 4>the New England papers defense doing that? They're doing goddamn good? Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>how about this they're doing good?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm gonna tell you all these great you say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Wise was a great offensive mind. How did they notice? West? Listen?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me let me finish my point, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>let you chime in. Charlie Wise was Tom Brady's first

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<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator. How did he do it? Not Tree Dame?

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<v Speaker 2>How did he do it? Kansas? Okay? Josh McDaniels, how

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<v Speaker 2>did he do it? Denver? How's he doing in Oakland?

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me now, Las Vegas? Okay, I'm gonna go another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Who else? Bill O'Brien, how did he do in Houston?

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<v Speaker 2>So you keep telling me, excellent, You keep telling me

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<v Speaker 2>the great minds, the great minds. Stop fooling yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>O Jo, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it does come down to players. But again, this

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<v Speaker 4>is the NFL. This is NFL. Even though there are tears.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, in order for things to work, in

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<v Speaker 4>order for the Giants to get the most out of

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<v Speaker 4>their players, you gotta put them in positions to succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>And now if.

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<v Speaker 4>You have an ad you have average players, and you

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<v Speaker 4>say you have an average quarterback, then the coaching has

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<v Speaker 4>to come into play.

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<v Speaker 1>And be that much more better than what you have than.

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<v Speaker 4>The product on the field. It just has to or

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<v Speaker 4>it gets exposed. And right now they're getting there getting exposed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, all I'm saying is that the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get now. You keep saying is tiers, T E,

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<v Speaker 2>A R S. Tiers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only a few tier ones. It's only a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And everybody ever got to come to play everybody

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<v Speaker 4>ever got to come to play ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, Daniel Jones is not even tier two or

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<v Speaker 2>Tier three. Stop fooling yourself. Stop telling the people that,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, we listen, you and I we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>we look, we gonna joke, we're gonna have a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>But in order for us to maintain credibility, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to be truthful. Now, you know, Daniel Jones is not

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<v Speaker 2>a Tier two or a Tier three quarter I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't speak on him being Tier one, two or three.

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<v Speaker 4>I just talked about what he did to night and

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't sufficient I did that. What about wasn't sufficient

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<v Speaker 4>enough to win win the game?

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<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't about week one that was that was bad.

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<v Speaker 4>That was bad all the flass board only. I only

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<v Speaker 4>said it because it was week one.

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<v Speaker 2>You keep it all up.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I wasn't all up and arm because it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was week one.

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<v Speaker 2>You dy got win.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody got to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>You keep you keep getting, you keep this goodness you

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<v Speaker 2>keep saying. If you keep saying, oh goodness, good, good good,

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<v Speaker 2>and Daniel Jones keep giving you these performances. So how

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<v Speaker 2>much more do you need to see before you come

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<v Speaker 2>to the realization? Say you know what, man, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants not gonna.

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<v Speaker 5>Be with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I just said he didn't play well tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>He played well enough. He's done just enough to get

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<v Speaker 4>the contract that he got. Because if you if he wasn't,

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<v Speaker 4>they wouldn't have paid me.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're blacing everything on your.

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<v Speaker 4>There's something, there's something that the Giants organization saw in

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<v Speaker 4>Daniel Jones where he was rewarded the contract that he got.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you working for the Giants? Are you working

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<v Speaker 2>for the Giants organization? I need you to speak to

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<v Speaker 2>what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I just told you what I saw and now

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<v Speaker 4>I said it to night. I'm not gonna say any

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<v Speaker 4>any any worse than what I already did.

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<v Speaker 1>I stated.

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<v Speaker 4>He threw interception. Two of them at that one. Diggs

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<v Speaker 4>won the Witherspoon, he had a strip sack. All those

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<v Speaker 4>ended up in points. Yes, he didn't play well tonight. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't even play well tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't so so over the course of his career,

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<v Speaker 2>have you seen more good or more bad?

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<v Speaker 4>And that's a that's a goddamn good question that's got

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<v Speaker 4>But based on based on what you're saying, I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>watched enough of Daniel Jones to make that kind of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Five years stop it league A long time, yeah, he asked.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what we've been able to see from him

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<v Speaker 4>is not the worst of the worst, and it's not

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<v Speaker 4>the best of the best. It's the middle of the

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<v Speaker 4>pack somewhere where he's someone that you can work with

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<v Speaker 4>and be what he's someone that you can work with

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<v Speaker 4>and be effishing with.

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<v Speaker 2>And because he.

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<v Speaker 4>Wasn't if he wasn't as bad as you think, if

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<v Speaker 4>he was as bad as you think, and keep saying

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<v Speaker 4>he is despite what he's putting up, he wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 4>gotten the money he's gotten. So it's something that the

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<v Speaker 4>Giants nobody, So everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>At the Giants see that.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't There's nothing I can say.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're on here for. But I I just

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<v Speaker 2>told you, I just told you. I just told you that.

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<v Speaker 2>So everybody, everybody, everybody that's gotten the contract in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying deserve because deserve is the same. But

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<v Speaker 2>if playe has basically like put up the numbers to

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<v Speaker 2>warrant them getting the contract they received, everybody that's ever

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<v Speaker 2>played the NFL has done that.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it. You have to do You have to do something.

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<v Speaker 4>There has to be something that they see for you

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<v Speaker 4>to get your money because they ain't just paying No.

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<v Speaker 1>Just know, anybody, you know what, here you go, he

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<v Speaker 1>go forty million dollars. You don't money like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what you just told me. You just told me.

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<v Speaker 2>Where else where the Giant's gonna go. They had to

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<v Speaker 2>pay somebody. That's what you just told me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I'm saying, I'm not saying it in that matter.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the best option at the time, which is

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<v Speaker 4>why they paid him.

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<v Speaker 2>So would you rather get hit by matt truck or

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<v Speaker 2>dump truck going sixty miles an hour?

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, You're gonna either way, Daddy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I've been trying to get you to say.

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<v Speaker 2>You see how simple that was. See, once I give

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<v Speaker 2>you things and analogy for him, you grasped the concept

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. It's simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, you kill it. You're killing me when we it's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two. It's thirty two teams in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in your top tiers you got by four or

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<v Speaker 4>five players, Yes, you got four or five players.

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<v Speaker 1>So everybody else you got to have something to work with.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's something that the giants saw in Daniel Jones

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<v Speaker 4>that they knew he is an answer for what we're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all we got to work with right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's it, that's it. I think the problem that

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<v Speaker 2>you have is that the reason why Daniel Jones can

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<v Speaker 2>be somewhat effective. If Saquan is in and he can

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<v Speaker 2>run the ball, he can catch the ball out of

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<v Speaker 2>the backfield, so he can take those three to five

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<v Speaker 2>yard routes and get you first down, so he can

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<v Speaker 2>get you ten. He can give get you fifteen. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a threat to take the ball to distance without him.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're asking Daniel Jones and mediocre receivers. And then look,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in the NFL, your NFL, but there's talent,

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<v Speaker 2>there's levels to you know, everybody's not Tyreek. So one

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<v Speaker 2>of two things gotta happen. Now, if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>go far, somebody has to be great on the offensive side,

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<v Speaker 2>your quarterback, your receivers. Something has to be great, because

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<v Speaker 2>if it's not, you're not gonna go very far. Average

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<v Speaker 2>and average it's not gonna get you very far.

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<v Speaker 4>And again that's why the first thing I said, if

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<v Speaker 4>you if these are your words, if you have an

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<v Speaker 4>average quarterback, room, yeah, you have an average quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have so called average receivers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that means to mask and get the most out

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<v Speaker 4>of your offense and offensive players. The coaching in the

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<v Speaker 4>scheme has to be that much better if you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have the players.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so tell me the it just doesn't tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me the coach that can get it done, that

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<v Speaker 2>can get it done with Daniel Jones and those receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, he's he's in Kansas City. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>one is in he's in Kansas.

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<v Speaker 4>City calling the players in Kansas City, and the other

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<v Speaker 4>one Patrick and the other one is calling the players

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<v Speaker 4>in uh in DC.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's another one named last name Shanahan. He's with

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<v Speaker 4>the forty nine ers. I'm giving you, I'm giving you

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<v Speaker 4>offensive coaches that have your creative mind, that can get

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<v Speaker 4>the most out of their players, which is maybe what

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<v Speaker 4>the Giants offensive staff is lacking the creativity, the creativity

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<v Speaker 4>that they need to be successful if everybody's so average.

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<v Speaker 2>But here is the thing. If you have average quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>and you have average receivers, what's the one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>can't do?

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<v Speaker 1>Turn turn the ball over?

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<v Speaker 2>What is what is Daniel Jones done just about as

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<v Speaker 2>much as more more than just about anybody else in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. Since he's been in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>He's turned it all over. So now you gotta protect

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<v Speaker 1>the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have greatness Like Patrick Mahomes can play bad,

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<v Speaker 2>but he has the ability to overcome back. Daniel Jones

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<v Speaker 2>can't play, but can't turn the ball over and have

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<v Speaker 2>the ability to overcome back because he doesn't have a U.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Jefferson, he doesn't have a Tyreek. He doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>these elite level receivers. So that's the problem that you're

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<v Speaker 2>running into with the Daniel Jones. Now this notion that

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<v Speaker 2>we in the NFL, but you notice that ojoe quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>is the only position that they'll overpay and say, well,

0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.359
<v Speaker 2>if we overpay it, we can make something out. They

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<v Speaker 2>won't do that for receiver. They won't do that for

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<v Speaker 2>the running back. The running back, even the top running

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<v Speaker 2>backs can barely get money. Tell me the other position

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<v Speaker 2>that you can be average to below average, they'll pay

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<v Speaker 2>you above a market value above just like you know

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<v Speaker 2>what all we got to do? Well, where else can

0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.040
<v Speaker 2>we go to find it? They'll go out and find

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<v Speaker 2>an offensive linement. They'll go out and find everybody. But

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<v Speaker 2>for a average quarterback, I'm not saying you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>replace Patrick Mahomes or Justin Herbert or one of these

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<v Speaker 2>top ten quarterbacks. Dan Jones not top ten.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is this is the funny thing about it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know how scarce the quarterback position is. You know

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<v Speaker 4>how scarce and hard it is to find a quality

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback or just a quarterback that can run your offense

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<v Speaker 4>and just be efficient. You don't have to be Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have to be Jalen Hurts. You don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to be Patrick. I mean, you don't have to be

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Burrow or goddamn Josh Allen. But to find a

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback that can be efficient and just run the offense

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<v Speaker 4>and just give you a chance. Can you give me

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<v Speaker 4>a chance on Sunday?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you be that is?

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<v Speaker 1>It's still hard to find. It's hard to find.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Jo. The problem that I have is that you

0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:01.720
<v Speaker 2>gave of a guy that kind of money when you

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<v Speaker 2>knew your offensive line was in shambles. That offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't upgrade the offensive line. So the offensive line

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<v Speaker 2>got him pummeled last year, be getting pumped, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he got We thought he got obliterated. In Week one,

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<v Speaker 2>they only sacked him seven times.

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<v Speaker 5>He got ten tonight tonight, Yeah, yeah, ten.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I just don't understand the Giants philosophy is

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't protect him, you don't give him a

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<v Speaker 2>true number one receiver that he can throw to. And

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<v Speaker 2>now Saquan is out, Now where do you go? Where

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<v Speaker 2>do you find it? Because you got to say and

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<v Speaker 2>and and when he came off the field, the coach

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Dayba was like, bro, we ran a whip route.

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<v Speaker 2>You want you won You run that route anticipating the

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<v Speaker 2>DV is gonna be on your hip. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna miss, you gotta miss inside. Oh John, if you

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<v Speaker 2>miss on his hip, the dv's on his hip, you're

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:57.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna hit him right in his chest. And where did

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<v Speaker 2>you hit him at?

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<v Speaker 1>Right between the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Rails. I like a reservation for six and that's a

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<v Speaker 2>very hard restaurant to get into it in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah. The Giants are the Giants now

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<v Speaker 2>three and eleven. In the last eleven games in which

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<v Speaker 2>Sakuon Barkley is missed, Daniel Jones has more interceptions than touchdowns.

0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:21.440
<v Speaker 2>In games that Sakuon Barkley does not play, Daniel Jones

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<v Speaker 2>is one to twelve and primetime games worst winning percentage ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say that again, John Marra, the tissues, whomever

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<v Speaker 2>thet the general manager is, Brian day Ball. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>go because Daniel Jones. Saquon Barkley is the engine. Suon

0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Barkley is the engine.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knew that, but for some reason they oh.

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<v Speaker 4>They knew, they knew, they knew they understand. They understand,

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<v Speaker 4>but they had They try.

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<v Speaker 2>To totally line for the NFL lead to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>running back. They try to keep the running back and suppressed.

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<v Speaker 1>They trying to suppress the mark yep, yeah, but not suffering.

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<v Speaker 2>True. Let's move it along. Rodney Harrison. I played against Rodney.

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<v Speaker 2>We were in the same division for a number of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good friend of mine. We used to work out

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<v Speaker 2>together occasionally when he was and he moved to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in Atlanta, so I know Rodney very well.

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<v Speaker 2>He said something last night where Chris Jones after the game,

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<v Speaker 2>and he asked him, did it surprise you that Zach

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson played so well considering what you had seen on tape?

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<v Speaker 2>And he caught a lot of blowback because people and

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<v Speaker 2>and and I want to get your thoughts, and I'm

0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna go back and tell you what I'm thinking. And

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.080
<v Speaker 2>he caught a lot of blowback for what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he refhrayed ask him another way, and he

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.760
<v Speaker 2>said that he was garbage. What what are your what

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<v Speaker 2>are your thoughts on what Rodney said? And how Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Jones handled that.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jones class act class act? He the class act.

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<v Speaker 4>Rodney Harrison trying to bait him into saying something bad

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<v Speaker 4>about Zach based on Rodney's assessment, based on Zach's play,

0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 4>and everywhere everybody else has been saying. And I like

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<v Speaker 4>to think I'm one of the few that have always

0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 4>stuck up a Zach, you know, for the past three years.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was and I had this problem with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Before as well, with you wanting me to be a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit more critical of players so I can have

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<v Speaker 4>some type of credibility when I am talking about the

0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:29.239
<v Speaker 4>players and being able to analyze them and making a

0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:33.399
<v Speaker 4>fair assessment and about their play. And I and I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of shun on the idea of doing so because

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.480
<v Speaker 4>players don't really take it well. They take it personal,

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.919
<v Speaker 4>you know. And one of the things for someone like

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.160
<v Speaker 4>Rodney Harrison, who's been in the business on the other

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:50.200
<v Speaker 4>side now for quite some time, I think was very unprofessional,

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.800
<v Speaker 4>very unprofessional, to to go that route and speak that

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.199
<v Speaker 4>way about about a player in that manner. There are

0:22:56.240 --> 0:23:00.240
<v Speaker 4>ways to analyze and critique players on their play out

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:01.200
<v Speaker 4>at being personal.

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh And that was just a little that was a

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 1>little over the line for me, just a little a

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 1>little over the line.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think that his use of word, the term

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<v Speaker 2>garbage made it personal to you.

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:17.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that that's personal, and that's not the way to

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:21.200
<v Speaker 4>conduct an interview in general, talking about another player, especially

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.919
<v Speaker 4>trying to debate another player to agree with you on

0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 4>what you're saying, just to say something bad like you

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:32.160
<v Speaker 4>don't do that. It might have been the right message,

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 4>the wrong messenger, right message, wrong messenger.

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I think the thing what happened is that he was

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 2>fine when he said, Chris, are you surprised how well

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Zach played considering what you had seen on tape? And

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:52.200
<v Speaker 2>be honest, I believe if he had left honest out

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 2>because when I ask you a question, if I'm asking

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.879
<v Speaker 2>the player a question, I'm expecting him to be honest.

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 2>And even though deep down in the back of my mind,

0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe he's honest considering that I played the game,

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 2>I was in the locker room, and so I'm assessing

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:08.199
<v Speaker 2>that's not for me to decide, that's not for me

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 2>to try to come back and says, Okay. Now here's

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:17.400
<v Speaker 2>another thing Rodney has to understand. NBC has the game right,

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:20.920
<v Speaker 2>and they have what we call production meeting. You've been

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 2>in production meetings. I've been in production meeting a lot

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:28.200
<v Speaker 2>of the key offensive players, defensive players, and coaches before

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 2>the game. They go into they sit down and like, well,

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 2>how you're feeling? You know, you know, all we feel

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:34.879
<v Speaker 2>good last week? Well, you know we came you know,

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 2>with a tough with a much needed win or a

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.399
<v Speaker 2>very tough loss. We're looking to get back on the

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:45.400
<v Speaker 2>right track. YadA, YadA, YadA. Right, you can't be as

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 2>critical as say me, because we're away from it. We

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 2>don't have the game. Even though if I'm on a network,

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not work for ESPN. I'm not like him going

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 2>into production meeting. So I'm father enough. Oh so NBC

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:03.959
<v Speaker 2>is not going to get that kind of blowback, And

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean NFP is not gonna get that blowback like

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 2>NBC is because of Rodney said that. And so for

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 2>me and I get it. I mean, we don't like

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 2>the considering that he used the term garbage and I

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 2>think that's kind of But like Rodney, Rodney said what

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot of other analysts are thinking. They he just

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 2>have to be mindful of what he can and can't

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 2>say and say.

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's a way, there's a way to get

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 4>your messages across and deliver it in a certain way. Again,

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 4>He's been in the business for a long time. There's

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 4>a way to do things, there's a way to say things,

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:44.919
<v Speaker 4>you know, and just just it was distasteful, very distasteful.

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I don't know how many you guys, because a

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 2>lot of you guys don't know. But Rodney was not

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 2>a slouch. Rodney was not some bumb I know a

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of deal. Now, a lot of guys talking all

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 2>this gibberish. Y'll better go back, y'all. Hey, y'all better

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 2>go back to check this man.

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Take a real deal. He was a real deal. I

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>played it, I played against.

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 2>The charge I played. I played against him also, I

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>played he was in my division for about about seven years.

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 2>So I know I know Rodney very well.

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think I know about that farm too, oh

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:23.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot.

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Yeah, it had been tough for him to play

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 2>in today's game, Oh yeah, big time. Time they find

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 2>they find that that physicality that he brought to the table,

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 2>they to find that out of him. But I just

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 2>think the thing is, like I said, I know Rodney,

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.120
<v Speaker 2>and I'll probably reach out to him tomorrow and talk

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 2>to him and get his thoughts in that conversation between

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 2>he and I remain private, but I just think sometimes

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 2>we just have to be mindful, especially him in his situation,

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.160
<v Speaker 2>because he's actually talking to a player after the game,

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:57.360
<v Speaker 2>and I believe he'd have been fine if he'd just said, Chris,

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 2>are you surprised how well Zach played tonight considering what

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>you had seen on tape? At this point, you don't

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 2>have to say, You don't have to say, and be honest,

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>right right, Just assume that he's gonna be honest, knowing

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 2>more time than not a lot of times, these guys

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 2>are really good. They've been coached up. They're gonna give

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 2>you coach speak. That's okay, But you ask the question. Now.

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna leave it till my viewing audience at home,

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>my listening audience to decide whether CJ is telling the

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 2>truth or not. That's not for me. That's not for

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 2>me to try to extract that information up out of it.

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Ask the question, and if he answers it, hey, yeah,

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but I thought he did. He's like, look,

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 2>he did play well tonight, he played he played, he

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 2>played well. We saw some big time throws that he

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 2>had made on tape. He made some of those throws tonight.

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 2>So I'm really not that surprised that he played as well.

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.639
<v Speaker 2>But I was glad that we came out here with

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the win. So CJ handled it perfectly. I just think

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>there are a few statements that Rodney could have made

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 2>differently that probably would have changed the complexion of the

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 2>of the interview.

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 1>So are you ready to also agree that he played well?

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 4>Are you still sticking with your sentiments that you said

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 4>yesterday that Zach Wilson didn't play well because you heard

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 4>Christ Jones said, you heard everybody else said, you heard

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 4>Patrick Mahomes said, you played one hell of a game.

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 4>Keep going. So can we get that from you as well?

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 4>Can you right now say.

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Now you know the game? If CJ wants to say that,

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 2>that's fine, But I already know. Coach quarterbacks, go stick

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 2>up for all the quarterbacks they're gonna give you, coach

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 2>they gonna get. I guarantee you Geno Smith to go

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 2>say Daniel Jones played well tonight. If you ask him,

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you he said, man, that was a tough game.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>But I thought under the circumstances he played well. You

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 2>already know, so.

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 4>You're just not gonna get Jack Wilson's credit by the

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 4>last next game, get him.

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Credit for losing. I thought I thought the objective was

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the winging.

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>So now you want me, I said, I see where

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you're going?

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I said, no, I ain't going nowhere. I'm right here.

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm right here. I ain't going nowhere. We got I

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 2>got time tonight. I got time tonight.

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>So you ain't gonna give me credit?

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, tell me what I'm getting me?

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 4>Credit for playing a great game. They weren't able to

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 4>come out on the winning in. But what he did

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 4>in the game, some of the throws he made, is

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 4>a great foundation to build off of for the follow

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 4>But if.

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 2>You don't mind ask putting those last three possessions the

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Giants had up on my screen, right quick? Come on,

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>that's a game. No no, no, no, no no, don't don't don't

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 2>don't don't don't now now all of a sudden, you

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Stevie wonder now you waving side to side. Don't Stevene

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>want know me? Now? No, let's let's put this up

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>on the board. His last three possession, give me those

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 2>right quick, okay. Wilson's last three possession a punt three

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and oh, three and out, punt, fumble, Wilson. Zach Wilson's

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 2>last three gives ended a punt which was three and out,

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 2>another punt and a fumble. Now tell me this greatness,

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 2>where was the greatness in that? Okay?

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 4>So, so the game, the game came down to those,

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 4>those those last three possessions.

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, in a game of that magnitude, that's tied. You

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>absolutely right, it comes down to those.

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 4>And again, let me remind you about some of the

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 4>players before that happened.

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 2>All that, all that doesn't matter, because how many times

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 2>have we seen other quarterbacks played bad? Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert a tour? How many

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>times Dak Prance got How many times have we seen

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks Lamar Jackson? How many times have we seen quarterbacks

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>play bad, but when they need to make have a

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 2>drive to get a game time field goal, a win,

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 2>or not let the team get the ball back, they

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 2>do that? How many times?

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 4>All right, you're right, you're right, I'm gonna let you

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 4>have this one. We were gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 4>come back to this.

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>You'll see remember this. Jayon don't jump on the jail.

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 4>Don't jump on the god damn Zach Wilson bandwagon later

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 4>on in the season either, Bro.

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>He got four flat times and the engine missing. He

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 2>ain't going nowhere. Why don't jump on that. He ain't

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 2>going nowhere?

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Remember that, keep that same energy.

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, triple A, triple A on

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the way right now. To try to get you, Try

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to get you going riding the tow truck. You know,

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you break down of the road and you don't want

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 2>to ride the car. You know, you right up there

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 2>with the tow truck drive you today? But hey, man,

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 2>what happened to shaw car? But I believe you know what,

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna let you have that bandwagon all to yourself.

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't even get on it because I don't wanted

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 2>to get cried.

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Because everybody else on there with me.

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're the only one in on there because we

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 4>can see you can't see.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>We can see what's coming.

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm. I don't know. Objects are closer than they're up here. Yeah,

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 2>you about to get science wipe o joke.

0:31:58.400 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>We ain't even looking at it.

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 4>We ain't even look in the mirrors you, We ain't

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 4>looking in the mirrors were looking straight ahead.

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Jay Z caught him flat he was talking about he

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 2>was starting with Kevin Hart, and Kevin Hart had said

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 2>that it was it's a difficult conversation to have with cousins,

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>and jay Z said, yeah, we go to your aunt's house,

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 2>and you go to your mom house and your cousin's

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>over and they're pitching you. Hey, bro, I got this

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 2>great idea. I need forty eight hundred and I'm gonna

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 2>get your two mail back, and so people and then

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>everybody started listing of Jeff Bezos got a loan from

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 2>his father, and Bill and Bill Gates got alan from

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 2>his father, and the Walton family got along from his dad.

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah. Ain't nobody mentioned nothing but no cousins.

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 2>All they mentioned about was kids getting loans from there. Now,

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you. Now, I know, I don't know the

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 2>name of James z twins, but I know the oldest

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>daughter is named Blue Ivy. I guarantee you. If Blue

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Ivy went to her dad, went to her mom and said, Mom, Dad,

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>look what I've been trying. This is what I need

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.719
<v Speaker 2>to do, and I need a little extra capital to

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 2>get this thing really really going. I don't think whole.

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think bait is gonna.

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Have a problem.

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying bait Beyonce. I'm not saying bass. So I'm

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna be disrespectful to that man, Beyonce. Uh, it's gonna

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>say no. So Sam Walton, Jeff Bezo, Phil Knight, Elon Musk,

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump, Mark Zuckerberg, all got capital. Thank you. I

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>ain't say nothing my cousins. Now, go back and look

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 2>at jay Z's history. He's taking care of his mom,

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 2>He's taking care of his brothers and.

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Sisters, immediate immediate family.

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>He got a home, got a homeboy named Ti Ti

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 2>that I've heard him speak glowingly about. Y'all need listen.

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 2>It would be nice if Hole Warner had some first cousins,

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 2>some second cousin or third cousin or what we that's

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>what we call dog kin. You're close to kin to

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>a Saint Bernard, then you have that third fourth cousin.

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not that we called dog kid down South.

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, it's so, if that would be nice, if

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 2>jay Z said, you know what a I want to

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>break y'all along. But jay Z is under no obligatiation.

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what if I had a billion dollars.

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.479
<v Speaker 2>That's probably why you couldn't get to a billion dollars

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 2>because you're giving away money that you don't have. Yeah.

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And the funny thing that this is the funny

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.439
<v Speaker 4>thing about family. This is the funny thing about family.

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.240
<v Speaker 4>It's the funny thing about friends. Everybody always has idea.

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 4>Everybody has Everybody always has this idea on how to

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 4>make money, but they need your money in order to

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 4>do it right. They always need your money to do it.

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 4>But one half the time they don't think these plans

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 4>and ways to make money out. There's no there's no

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 4>business plan to it, and just an idea in your head.

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.320
<v Speaker 4>And as soon as they bring your idea and you

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.399
<v Speaker 4>ask them, will show me a business plan and show

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 4>me how you're going to let me give you say something.

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Never have anything to show up. It's just a thought.

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just a thought. And and something about.

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 4>Our people is we really have no respect or value

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 4>for a dollar, no at all.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And you have an expect and you automatically expect because

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>we think, oh, if I make it, I'm supposed to

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 2>bring everybody all twenty all three hundred and seventy five

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 2>of my closest kid and all work in.

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 4>All three all three hundred and seventy five and be broke. Yes,

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 4>and then everybody, Oh Joe, it trips me out with people.

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 4>You're like you, You try to help everybody. Then all

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden you go broke.

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Man, I don't know how you lost all that money,

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 2>given it to you more folds, and how I lost

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>all my money. I'm helping you with car payment, I'm

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 2>helping you with your kids, I'm helping you with house. No,

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm helping you do all this other stuff. And then

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.280
<v Speaker 2>when I go broke. Now y'all looking at me crazy.

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Listen. One of the fastest ways to go broke

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:54.280
<v Speaker 4>is not learning how to stay say no. It's normally family.

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 4>It's normally family that will continue to drain you. Sometimes

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 4>it's a closer, your closest relatives. Sometimes it's your own

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 4>mom and your own daddy. Sometimes you got to know,

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 4>you got to know how to how to deal with

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 4>them at arms length.

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>When they don't have structure, discipline.

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 4>That is the most dangerous thing for young athletes, or

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 4>for anyone that has money in general.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>They will continue to drain you over and over. When

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you give them.

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 4>Once, they gonna come back when it run out. Yeah,

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 4>you get you get somebody five grand. All you're doing

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 4>if you take take man.

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Somebody five grand? Man, Man, you making five six million dollars.

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 2>What's ten grand to you?

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 5>Who?

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 2>That's five thousand more than you started with. That's a

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 2>thousand more than you started with. You over here my

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 2>pocket talking about all that money I'm making. Considering that

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>you came to me asking for money, you should be grateful.

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 2>And I'm giving you the money with no expectation of

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.439
<v Speaker 2>you returning it because that's normal, that's what I do.

0:36:56.880 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm never going to give somebody money that I'm expecting

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 2>it back, because all it's gonna do is gonna call us.

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna cause me to lose. It's gonna cause our

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>friendship or our relate or our kinship. It's gonna cause

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 2>a friction. Because if I give you money and I

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.399
<v Speaker 2>expect it back and you don't pay me, now, I'm

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 2>not gonna see everybody always want you to man. Man,

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 2>that little bit of money now, it's a little bit

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>of money, and I want you to pay it back.

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit of money. You didn't say that

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 2>when you came in and.

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Asked me for it.

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 2>You ain't mentioned about the whole little piece of money,

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:30.879
<v Speaker 2>that a little bit of a man. Let me hold

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of money, you asked me. Let me

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 2>borrow thousand, Let me hold five thousand. I ain't got

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 2>no problem with that. I'm gonna get I have in

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the past, my uncles and aunts. I went to the

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:46.919
<v Speaker 2>suit a. Okay, man, I have an uncle. Every time

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 2>my homeboy, my homeboys and friends come around. Man, you

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 2>know I used to change dicas on that boy laugh

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 2>O Joe, every oh Joe, every time I come around my.

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Home boy, the old school story.

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Man, you know, I changed. So I pulled them to

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.399
<v Speaker 2>the side. I gave thirty five hundred dollars. I said,

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 2>don't tell that damn story no more now. Okay, I'm dad,

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.919
<v Speaker 2>said you laughing, oh Joe, But I'm dead serious. I said,

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 2>don't tell that story no more now.

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 2>So that's that's the end of that story. But I

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>go to the super Bowl and I come back. I

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 2>give my mom had eight brothers and sisters, all of

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 2>them was married. I come home five thousand for you.

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 5>The hunt.

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Even though if it's not. But you know they they

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>they my relative through through my through you know, through

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 2>my mom I gave, I give my her sisters, I

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 2>give their husband. Same thing. Boom boom boom. Okay, you

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to the Gamecuse me when it came to

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.439
<v Speaker 2>the super Bowl. The first time you see me play?

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Was it gonna be in the Super Bowl? If you

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen a preseason game or regular season game or

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 2>play the game, and you think the first time that

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:55.720
<v Speaker 2>you gonna see me play Super Bowl and ain't happening.

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:05.439
<v Speaker 2>That ain't happening. But man, people need to stop this. Man,

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 2>if I had a billion dollars, no, you wouldn't know.

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't know, you would you wouldn't.

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 2>People always say what they would do because they've never

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 2>been in that situation.

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 4>Frustration And the funny thing about it, another thing we

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 4>need to learn. We have no no, no structure, no

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 4>discipline when it comes to spending money. We have the

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.399
<v Speaker 4>mindset is I'm gonna blow a bag and go make

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:26.240
<v Speaker 4>it right back.

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:30.320
<v Speaker 1>And always listen and always think that every.

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 4>Play, that play that you always doing, or whether a

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 4>hustle that may be, it ain't gonna always hit.

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>It ain't gonna always be hitting whatever it is that.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 4>You may be doing, whether it's whether it's something good

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 4>or whether it's something bad. It ain't gonna always hit

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.800
<v Speaker 4>the way you think. It is just that our mindset

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 4>and the way we think. Man, there's no type of

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 4>discipline when that comes to spending money. And they always

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 4>got an idea. Everybody always had this wonderful idea on

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 4>a way to make money, but never have none of

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 4>their own.

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>No. Always, like I said, and when people like, well,

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna do for your kids, my kids will

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 2>tell you go ask an in my kids, they're gonna

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 2>tell you I'm daddy. Is I'm dad? Is the last option,

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 2>not the first choice? Because I get I sent you

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>to private school, I sent you to college. Okay, Now,

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>if you can't figure it out, let's talk about it now.

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Don't go make a mistake and then come ask daddy

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 2>to bail you out, because you should have asked daddy first, right,

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 2>because you know, a lot of times I'm grown. You

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:33.879
<v Speaker 2>know what I noticed. My kids are always grown when

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 2>it comes except with money. They ain't grown when it

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 2>come to money. When it come to money, you know,

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm dead a little girl, I'm dead, little boy. Whoa

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 2>you think you could drink and you could curse me.

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:47.919
<v Speaker 2>You can do all this stuff, but now you need

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 2>some money. You ain't grown no more. Yeah, but my

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 2>kids have been very, very good, but they know I'm

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 2>last option, not first choice. Now we're gonna sit down

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and talk about it, and I'm gonna I'm gonna help

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna I'm not gonna leave. I'm gonna help

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 2>them out once because my kids are knock on wood,

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 2>they've never been a because I say, if you ever

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 2>get in trouble, you get a d U. I h

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I already know my kids will tell you if you

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 2>were to get a DU. I want you who the first.

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not calling my dad. I'm gonna tell my mom

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>not to tell my dad because I gonna be in

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 2>the pen right I'm gonna be in the pen right

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 2>next to you. But for a whole different reason. So

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 2>they already know. Day Listen, I work my tail off

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of what I do is for for

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>the kids and the grandkids. My son has I have

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 2>a grandson, but you know, hopefully, knock on wood, my

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.359
<v Speaker 2>daughter's gonna get married and have kids, and so what

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm working hard for now is to start it because

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, my mom and dad and my grandparents didn't

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 2>have anything to leave me. But I'm gonna leave my

0:41:56.040 --> 0:42:00.879
<v Speaker 2>kids and kids, kids, kids, well well off. They're gonna

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 2>be straight now. I'm not gonna say they're gonna be

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 2>as as business minded as I am. And every shiny

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 2>toy that comes along, like I want this new card,

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I want that because eventually, if y'all don't do the

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 2>right things, the business is gonna go away. The money's

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna disciplate.

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Grade, it's gonna run away. Yeah, yeah, disappear.

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 2>But I understand what Jay, And it's only people that's

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 2>in that situation that have money, And I don't have

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 2>nearly the money that Jay Z has or or or

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Hard or any of these people that were mentioned.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 2>But you have to say no, O Joe, You're absolutely right.

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 2>You have to be willing to say no and be

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 2>okay with that.

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think people understand.

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't think people understand how difficult it

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 4>is to navigate having large sums of money, especially when

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 4>you've had it for a while, or just being a

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 4>rookie for that matter, or just coming into your own

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 4>or coming into money and having all these new friends,

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 4>you having all these new friends, all this pressure and

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 4>won the fit in and you think you're given and and.

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 1>All of it. I call it transit, transactional access. H

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't need, you don't need, you don't need nobody.

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>You don't need, you don't need the entourage, because every

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>time you see entourage, it's only one person really got money. Yeah,

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:14.879
<v Speaker 1>and you and you got and then you got to feed,

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you got you got to feed all them different mouths.

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 4>I just it's it's crazy. It's crazy. I mean, we

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 4>could talk about that topic. I can go on and

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 4>on and on. You know, when it comes to financial

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 4>literacy that that's that's my thing.

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm on that.

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm on that. I remember a couple of years ago

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 2>there was an article that came out that I think

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 2>doctor dre daughter, he was taking care of her, he

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.760
<v Speaker 2>was financially supporting her. And I think she had lost

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 2>a range Rover after her for she had four kids.

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not I don't want to. I just know

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it was a couple of different dads. I

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say four different baby dads, but I

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 2>think maybe one or two different dads and people like

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.760
<v Speaker 2>man jay Z excuse me, doctor Dre has all that money.

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Dre is not under an obligation. All. You know

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 2>what I told my kids, Oh Joe, I say, all

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 2>I owe you is in education. I don't know you

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 2>anything else. I could die and leave everything that I've

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 2>worked my butt off to you. But I don't owe

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.760
<v Speaker 2>you that. I owe you an education to give you

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 2>the best education I possibly can to get you started.

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 2>After that, this notion that you owe your kids, you

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 2>see the problem. You know why. You know we've made

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:32.760
<v Speaker 2>lazy kids. You know why we made lazy kids because

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 2>in our mind we want them to have it easier

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 2>than what we had it. Right, you couldn't have gotten

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>where you got. You wouldn't have gotten to where you

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 2>if your mom would have babied you like you do

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.399
<v Speaker 2>some of your kids. You're not o your SINKO. I'm

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 2>damn sure not.

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:49.879
<v Speaker 4>Shanning Sharp right, that's a good one, And that's that's

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 4>a very touchy subject too. That's a very touchy subject

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 4>because some of the times I've seen it on Twitter

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 4>before Jackie Chan when he's talking about as well and

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 4>he said, yeah, I wasn't leaving he was leaving any

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 4>of his fortune to his kids and just watching Twitter

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 4>go going to uproar. All parents always want their kids

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 4>to suffer so they ain't have to like and so

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 4>that that's that's a touchy subject, is as far as

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 4>when it when it comes to my kids, they know

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.760
<v Speaker 4>if they need anything, I'm the first and the last option.

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.800
<v Speaker 4>You know, if you have somewhere to go, it's okay.

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 4>But if you need it, you know you can call now.

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 4>If it's something extreme and out the blue, you already

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 4>know it's not happening.

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>We talk about it. We talk about important stuff. We

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about necessities, not wants.

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 5>Now.

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 4>The wants we'll do those things around the holidays, you know, Christmas, birthdays,

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 4>we'll take care of you wants then.

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 1>But anything that's a necessity that you need, they know

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:40.839
<v Speaker 1>they can call it any time.

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 4>But that that's that's a very touch that's a very

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 4>touchy subject, which you just said, very very touch.

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 2>But you notice everybody always have ideals how you should

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 2>spend your money. Yeah, yeah, everybody. Everybody got great ideas

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 2>with your money. Man, I would do this, I would

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:03.359
<v Speaker 2>do that. You wouldn't know, you wouldn't. It's easy. It's

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 2>easy to say because I remember my brother had money

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>before I had it, and I couldn't understand. Man, you

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 2>got money? Man? What that I used to leave the

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 2>door wide open? He's like, Bro, are you trying to

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 2>cool or you trying to heat the outside? Also, man,

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 2>all that money you got, he said, you were Man, Man,

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 2>my kid, don't do see that? Dude letting this air,

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:27.839
<v Speaker 2>let this heat up out this house? What the hell

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 2>wrong with y'all?

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Georgia power and you have a greater appreciation for it

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 2>when it's yours, when it's coming out of your pockets,

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 2>and now you want people to understand it and respect

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>it and value it like you do. That's the hardest

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 2>thing to get somebody to value things. But it's hard

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 2>to value something that you didn't you didn't buy, you

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't create, or work you don't own or you didn't

0:46:54.600 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 2>work for. It's hard, Yeah, but once you get to

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 2>that point. I treat people stuff because how I would

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.839
<v Speaker 2>won't my stuff treated? I don't you know? You know what?

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 5>Hey?

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I asked if I go to somebody's house, which is

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 2>a rarity. I think I can count. I think I

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 2>can count. Oh yourright, no, line, I think I can

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 2>count on one hand how many piece people houses I've

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 2>been in the last ten years.

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Trying to think I got back three.

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I can't remember. Let me tell you something.

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 2>And people go like, man, what I haven't spent the

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 2>night at the girl's house, at her house probably thirty

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:43.280
<v Speaker 2>and probably thirty years. What. I had a bad situation.

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh, he pulled up on you. He pulled up on you.

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh you put can you pull that scrap out of

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I had? Oh?

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>No, I had two situations. Check this out. I had

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 2>just I had just got drafted. This was in This

0:47:56.360 --> 0:48:00.319
<v Speaker 2>was in May of nineteen ninety. Yeah, And I called

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 2>a young lady that I used to mess I used

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 2>to talk to, but I didn't mess with anymore. So

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I was coming back from Denver because I was still

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 2>in school. But I didn't want to drive home in

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the night and wake my grandma up

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 2>because she was gonna like fake something wrong. So I

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, I called, I said, hey, you see anybody.

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 2>She's like, no, I ain't see nobody. I said, I

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 2>don't want to wake my grandmother up. I could have

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 2>just went. I could have went and got a hotel

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 2>room for fifty dollars. That's what I need to do.

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:27.959
<v Speaker 1>Being fast and you're being hot.

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 2>No, check this out, Oh Joe, check this out. She said, No,

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>you can come on over. So I go over. Something

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 2>tells me, oh Joe, I got on shorts and a

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 2>T shirt. I got a T shirt and shorts on.

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Something tells me keep this stuff on. I ain't that night,

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 2>ain't nothing pop off? Oh Joe, you ever been sleep?

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 2>You feel like you can't move, but you could hear everything? Right,

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I felt I felt like I was dreaming, but I

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 2>could hear people arguing. Oh, and I'm like it, but

0:48:59.080 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I can't move.

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, you know you been like you're trying to

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:04.319
<v Speaker 1>move talking about right.

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:09.880
<v Speaker 2>After a while the door flowed the hinges. So you

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 2>got to understand, O Joe, your boy, Your boy about

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 2>to be twenty two. So I'm paid. Hey, you know

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, Oh Joe, So you're going. I got

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 2>to do the A So I'm ready, I'm prime. Okay,

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I may God contact uh huh, oh bro, it wouldn't

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 2>have been good, O Joe.

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:28.400
<v Speaker 1>What happened?

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 2>He had a couple of bodies on the resume, so

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 2>he recognized who I was. I recognized who he was. Yeah,

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 2>so he's like sharp. I said, yeah, man, he said, man,

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:43.839
<v Speaker 2>I love man. Hey, congratulations going to.

0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>The Broncos and Roy.

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:47.840
<v Speaker 2>He said, man, you's Savannah State boy. I used to

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:49.879
<v Speaker 2>tell my home I used to tell the homies. I said,

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 2>that was sharp. He going to the NFL. My shoes

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:58.439
<v Speaker 2>all have my socks on everything. Check this out, o Joe.

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I said, God, if you get me out of this situation,

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't get back in another one. Yeah. Three years later,

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I go back to Savannah State home coming. I called

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 2>it and I said, what's going on? I said, you know,

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.200
<v Speaker 2>no a different one. Different one. No, no, different one.

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 2>She said, check this out with Joe. I said, you

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 2>know your boy and she said, come on over, come on.

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, I ride with my homeboy. Bucket. I said, bucket,

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 2>turn around, because we had just left campus. I said,

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 2>turn this thing around, Bucket. He turned around. We pull up,

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 2>so I said, homeboy, you know watch Hoban said, hey,

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 2>go home, go back to homeboy.

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 2>I was all right. So he get Jet magazine. So

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, I got to rollie on. I got my

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 2>change eighty four, so you know, you know, she's like,

0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel the good. I feed the good. O yoe,

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I feed a good. So by two, Okay, I got

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:56.359
<v Speaker 2>my I got my shirt. I took my shirt off.

0:50:57.080 --> 0:51:00.919
<v Speaker 2>I see the door handle turning. I'm like, hey, what

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 2>the what the hell? My homeboy thinking dude came in

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.879
<v Speaker 2>that thing with the ak and with the a K. Now,

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 2>mind you, she done undressed. I just got my shorts on,

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:14.919
<v Speaker 2>so I done, just came up out my T shirt

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and took with jewel rob my ROLEI my chain. So

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 2>he looked at me. I look at him. I say,

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:26.720
<v Speaker 2>this is your people, my man. He's like, yeah, so okay,

0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 2>my bad. Guess what he asked me. He said, my man,

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 2>you shocked. I said, yeah, I thought so. So I

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 2>look out in the hallway. His homeboy got the shop

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 2>sawed off. My homeboy sitting on the couch because I

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 2>know my homeboy would alerted me, but he got the sawed.

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Off on him and okay, okay, So I.

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Get my stuff and say, my bad, bro, I said,

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:55.439
<v Speaker 2>I ain't no, I say, you know me, I don't

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 2>know who you are, my bad. I'm at fault. I'm wrong.

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 2>So I get my necklace. I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah.

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 2>So I leave and I'm thinking, like, oh ship, I said, homeboy,

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 2>I left my roller in there, he said, man. I said, man,

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 2>you better turn this more for a rod. I'm going

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 2>to get my joint. You got it? Did I? Boy?

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:26.879
<v Speaker 2>That was fifty bands? Why did I? Hey? I said,

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 2>my man, my roller on the dresser. He said, hey,

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:31.359
<v Speaker 2>you go to man. I got it.

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I said again, So that's why it's been thirty years.

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 5>Huh.

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't.

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't see nothing.

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 2>For the longest time. Yeah. I would not go to

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.120
<v Speaker 2>a female's house with that thing.

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 5>On the table right right, right, right right.

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know what, just let me just look.

0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I feel comfortable in my own home when we're gonna

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 2>meet in a neutral place. I said, but I can't.

0:52:55.680 --> 0:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I said, I can't risk it anymore. I say, because

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody's gonna because they're gonna recognize who I am, and

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:03.360
<v Speaker 2>they gonna think, because who I am, I think I

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:05.399
<v Speaker 2>can run rough shot over them. I say, it ain't

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.400
<v Speaker 2>worth it. Oh shoe, I say, but you got me

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 2>out of that one. Yeah, and my eyes at another

0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 2>ain't closed my eyes at another female's house that was

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 2>there the dude walked in on us in ninety three.

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 4>So thirty years and listen, I'm never I don't. I

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:24.760
<v Speaker 4>don't have a story of that magnitude of story that great.

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 4>I never had that problem. I rarely really ever go

0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:30.839
<v Speaker 4>to people's house, especially spending the night, because I got

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 4>to be it, but I got to be able to

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 4>play with my video game.

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not staying at your house. But God, but

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 1>that was a good story, boy, And the funny the funny.

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 4>The funny thing about that story is that happened to

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 4>a lot of dudes, but the outcome isn't as gracious

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:45.279
<v Speaker 4>as yours was.

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:51.239
<v Speaker 2>George was, I believe had he not known who I was.

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Now I do I ate another story I was at

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I had an sl in ninety two and I was

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.600
<v Speaker 2>in Sabamah. So you know you have an old pay phone, right,

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 2>and you know back then they ain't have no no GPS.

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:06.920
<v Speaker 2>You could punch it in and full it up. So

0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 2>so she told me an address and I drove. I said, damn,

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not even thinking. I mean, I'm on thirty

0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:17.440
<v Speaker 2>seventh in bull If you're from Savannah. You know exactly

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about. And I'm pulling the park lot

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Pashaw had a car wash. So I pull up there

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:25.160
<v Speaker 2>and the dude run up on me. He said, you

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:27.680
<v Speaker 2>know what it is? I said, my man, everything I

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 2>got in Hey, my wallets in the car. Everything I

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:33.160
<v Speaker 2>got is in the car, he said, sharp. I said, yeah,

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm a man. Hey, he said, He said, Bro, you

0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:39.879
<v Speaker 2>in the league. You better get a cell phone. Get

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.400
<v Speaker 2>out of here, right. You ain't got to tell me

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 2>no more. Hey, but I still made that calling with

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:49.840
<v Speaker 2>the short I did do that. Hey, Hey, bro, I

0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 2>got to friend of your call.

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Bro, you you ain't pass that up.

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Don't don't do man.

0:54:56.960 --> 0:55:01.200
<v Speaker 4>Listen what I got have some good stories, man, but

0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:02.839
<v Speaker 4>nothing nothing, nothing like that.

0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I told you, well you were you tripping? Oh Joe?

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:13.319
<v Speaker 2>You just all they do is just tell me they

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:15.759
<v Speaker 2>have somebody. And I'll have never stepped for man. You know,

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 2>would women? I don't.

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't think women never tell the truth.

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 4>And listen. And you just got to the league too.

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:23.799
<v Speaker 4>You think they Fina ruined that opportunity in that chat.

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 2>She ruined, please ruin it? I think I think you

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:32.920
<v Speaker 2>later ruin my chances. I thank you later, but but

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:36.400
<v Speaker 2>my story from time, I'm gonna share a few stories

0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:38.279
<v Speaker 2>with you because I got a bunch of them over

0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:39.480
<v Speaker 2>my fifty five years.

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 4>I got I got some good ones. I just just

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:43.600
<v Speaker 4>not not like that though.

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Lebron and a D. Lebron says, he's the face

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 2>of the franchise. You look at all these retired numbers

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:55.120
<v Speaker 2>that's around this facility. All the grades have come here,

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 2>and a D is one of them. Is a D

0:55:57.880 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 2>the face of the Lakers. Listen.

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I love I love Anthony Davis.

0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:03.640
<v Speaker 4>I love being able to do what he's done in

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:07.759
<v Speaker 4>this entirety since he's been in the league. But to

0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:09.320
<v Speaker 4>say he's one of the all time grades, he is

0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:10.680
<v Speaker 4>one of the all time grapes. But say he's one

0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 4>of the all time grades in the Lakers organization, he.

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Hasn't been enough. Yeah, he hasn't been healthy enough for

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:21.399
<v Speaker 1>me consistently to be considered one of the all time

0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:24.839
<v Speaker 1>grades at that organization, one of the best big men

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 1>to ever play the game, one of the most skilled

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 1>big men to ever to play the game.

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Big men, yeah, they known for that.

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.719
<v Speaker 4>But all I need is for AD to be able

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 4>to play a full season. Not maybe not every game,

0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:39.720
<v Speaker 4>but not missed.

0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:42.720
<v Speaker 2>So fifty five, give me sixty five games.

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:45.160
<v Speaker 1>That's it. Just give me sixty's I'm gonna say sixty.

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Give me, give me sixty games. Because when he's on

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the court, man, a motherfucker's hell. He is hell.

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:53.239
<v Speaker 4>He is hell to deal with on the defensive side,

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 4>on the defense end, and the office end. But again,

0:56:56.320 --> 0:57:00.360
<v Speaker 4>I respect what Lebron is doing. He's the goat for reason.

0:57:00.920 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 4>Then he will always be. He will always be the

0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:08.520
<v Speaker 4>face of that team, regardless of him, big up in

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:10.759
<v Speaker 4>AD always.

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Hey, the difference is AD talking about the face of

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 2>the team. Lebron's the face of the NBA. Yeah, it's

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 2>like Jared Jones is the face of the Cowboys. Patrick

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Mahoons is the face of the NFL. That's two different

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 2>that's a whole different thing here. Yeah, I get what

0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Lebron's trying to do. Lebron is for the longest saying

0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 2>a d I need you to pick up the man,

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I need you to carry this thing. Now, Bro, I

0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:36.720
<v Speaker 2>mean your nineteen, I mean your twenty. Now I'm headed

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:39.800
<v Speaker 2>into year twenty one. You are you're supposed to be

0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:43.439
<v Speaker 2>in your prime. You're supposed to take this thing now

0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 2>and run I can get if ad were to take

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:50.080
<v Speaker 2>this thing and run with it like I think what

0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I think he can. Lebron can easily get another two years.

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:57.880
<v Speaker 2>He can play. He'll be thirty nine in December. He

0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 2>can play till he's probably forty one. He can get

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 2>another two years in easy, go ahead mine. He still

0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:12.600
<v Speaker 2>loves it. He's still shocked. Mentally. What broke me, O

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Joe was meetings. I hate meetings. I had heard to

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Flanker drive. I had heard fifty bing go pick,

0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I heard staff protection. When you hear that, there was

0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 2>nothing new to me. And so now my fun was

0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 2>being on the bus or being you know, been a

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 2>locker room laughing and joking and the practice feel stretching man,

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:34.880
<v Speaker 2>the meeting man. If Mike would have told me a

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:39.560
<v Speaker 2>eighty four, don't even worry about meetings, I don't know.

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:41.160
<v Speaker 2>It had been hard for me to tell to take

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.640
<v Speaker 2>that job at CBS. But when CBS told me and

0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:45.680
<v Speaker 2>they gonna get they were gonna give me more money

0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 2>than what I was making, and I wouldn't have to

0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:56.040
<v Speaker 2>take no hits. See you might see, I'm just being outed.

0:58:56.880 --> 0:59:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Russell Westbrook organized a team INNI camp and lost make

0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:03.960
<v Speaker 2>us a couple of weeks ago. At dinner, you had

0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:06.040
<v Speaker 2>to practice and then you had to go to the

0:59:06.080 --> 0:59:09.440
<v Speaker 2>team dinner. At the team dinner, Russ handed each player

0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 2>a new new iPhone fifteen Pro Max. What's the best

0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:16.560
<v Speaker 2>gift you've ever given your teammates?

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh, man, the best gift I ever given my teammates. Man,

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't rethink. It's too many people. There's too many

0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:27.360
<v Speaker 4>people on the owner, on the football team.

0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's too many. And the boy

0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I think you don't.

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Know what the quarterbacks, they'll get them like try line. Yeah, yeah,

0:59:35.800 --> 0:59:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I did that. Ninety three my first All Pro team,

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I got a ten thousand dollars bonus if if I made,

0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:45.640
<v Speaker 2>if I made if I made All Pro, and if

0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I made the Pro Bowl. So I took my money.

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I took my money, went to the rolex, and another

0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:54.480
<v Speaker 2>three thousand out of.

0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:56.880
<v Speaker 5>My procket, and I brought into the rolex.

0:59:57.240 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I went. I brought all the offensive lineman Roll Lexus

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<v Speaker 2>had him in grave.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, listen, man, sugar ain't sugar ain't brought nobody.

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<v Speaker 5>I ain't buy nobody.

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<v Speaker 4>No watches that man just obviously you you you, you

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<v Speaker 4>know me somewhat somewhat a little bit on how carry

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<v Speaker 4>myself when it comes to my finances. The most of

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<v Speaker 4>the thing, the most I've done is actually with the receivers,

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<v Speaker 4>is maybe taking everybody out to dinner.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what mass your question.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you take it? Did you take your offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>or your position coach to the Pro Bowl when you went.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, coach Brad coach Brad No, coach Brad No.

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<v Speaker 2>I took all my every year, every year I made

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<v Speaker 2>the Pro Bowl. So even though they were no longer

1:00:49.600 --> 1:00:51.640
<v Speaker 2>coach me Less decoed with the first coach that I

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<v Speaker 2>took that I that when I made it, I took

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<v Speaker 2>him and his wife. Then Brian Perranni came after Less,

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<v Speaker 2>after away Philip Staff left. So I go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Pro Bowl, I bring VP his right less and his

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<v Speaker 2>wife Chris, and then I go to Baltimore. I make

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<v Speaker 2>the Pro Bowl. I take Wade Harmon, my position, coach,

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<v Speaker 2>his wife, BP, his wife who's still at the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's steckel. Okay, I bring them out there, fly him out,

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<v Speaker 2>put them up at the hotel and we go do

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<v Speaker 2>a dinner. I'm just you know what, I just want

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<v Speaker 2>people to know. I'm never I've never been naive enough

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<v Speaker 2>to think that I got to where I am by myself, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted them to know that I appreciate what

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<v Speaker 2>you had done for me. Less Steckel was He's probably

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<v Speaker 2>probably first to second Coach Hall, who was my high

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<v Speaker 2>school coach. He drove the bus from my mom. He

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<v Speaker 2>coached all my uncles, coach my aunts, and he coached

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<v Speaker 2>me and my brother. So he's probably he's my favorite coach,

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<v Speaker 2>but less Steckel's probably a close second because the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>that he and I have to this day. He calls me.

1:02:04.480 --> 1:02:08.600
<v Speaker 2>He calls me every one of my kids birthday. Less

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't coached me in thirty years. He calls me every

1:02:15.520 --> 1:02:19.800
<v Speaker 2>birthday for each of my kids. Now he calls me sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 2>That was him, sweetheart, he always every time, sweetheart, Sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want him to know. I wanted BP to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted Wado to know. Bro. These pro bos, these

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<v Speaker 2>all pro y'all helped this. Yeah, invited them all. Now

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<v Speaker 2>some of them came Less came Less stuck. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned less in my speech. BP came, Wado didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>to come because he was coaching at the time. Invited

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<v Speaker 2>them all to the hall, all my because I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate everything that I was, everything that I had

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<v Speaker 2>accomplished up until that point, as far as as far

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, sports wise, especially football, those guys had

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<v Speaker 2>a large part to do with it, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>that was my way of saying thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think what I did obviously when I made

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<v Speaker 4>the Pro Bowls and the fact that it was in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the players to day they will never understand

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<v Speaker 4>what it's like to make the Pro Bowl and what

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<v Speaker 4>a treat it was to make the Pro Bowl back then,

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<v Speaker 4>because it was an actual treat. It was an actual treat.

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<v Speaker 4>In the trip, Yeah, family, obviously I took. I took

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<v Speaker 4>my kids, my family. I took my coach, my coach

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<v Speaker 4>who was my trainer doing throughout the off season, because

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<v Speaker 4>he's responsible for who I was, He's responsible for the

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<v Speaker 4>confidence was, he's responsible for the bravado and really making

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<v Speaker 4>me into the player I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I took him all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, my grandma and my mom and my homeboys out

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<v Speaker 4>the hood my homeboys out the hood who I grew

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<v Speaker 4>up with. I wanted them to have that experience and

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<v Speaker 4>go go on that journey with me. So I took them,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe one or two times. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 4>it was always, you know, my kids and my grandma,

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<v Speaker 4>my mama.

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<v Speaker 2>My sister. She went the first two times. My brother

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<v Speaker 2>made it in eighty nine and ninety and she was done.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't want to go anymore. Yeah, she's like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>too far to fly. She was excited, she'd be excited

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<v Speaker 2>for two days and then she's just basically ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go home, ready to go home. So she's worried about

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<v Speaker 2>she's worried about my grandmother because we got to have

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<v Speaker 2>one of my aunts to come in and see with

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<v Speaker 2>my grandmother. And you got to realize, Okay, California to

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia is a three hour time difference, and there's another

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<v Speaker 2>two hours, so it's five hours. So you're thinking one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and Grant is already in the bed and so about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the time you want to call this in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, you going to bed and Granted just getting up.

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<v Speaker 2>So now after that point, so I never got a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to bring up my mom didn't really didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>care to go. So that was that it was just

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<v Speaker 2>basically me and my me and my coaches. I'll take

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<v Speaker 2>the coaches and you know, a couple of times and

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<v Speaker 2>had a couple of teammates, which was which was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And then uh, in two thousand and one, one of

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<v Speaker 2>my last year in Baltimore, to have Ray and Woody

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<v Speaker 2>to go, Uh, that was funny. But it was always

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<v Speaker 2>fun to get an opportunity to see the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>you compete against and right around and eat burgers and

1:05:01.840 --> 1:05:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and and you know, all of the my ties and

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<v Speaker 2>the Blue Hawaiians and the drinks and and tell the stories.

1:05:07.320 --> 1:05:09.920
<v Speaker 2>And you get an opportunity to see coach Belichick. You

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<v Speaker 2>see a Peyton Manning let their hair down. Now all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, it's no more coach speak now, all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, it's just like they're having a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Sharpie, you want something? But he and now we're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to Hey man, what's your room number? Oh I'm

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<v Speaker 2>such and such. Oh now you got everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You never give you your room number.

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<v Speaker 2>Never charge on me by four thousand dollars because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>charging every charging the room six on nine. What you

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<v Speaker 2>want you want burger fries, You want to drink? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>your wife and kids need anything? Oh, yeah, we get you.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that. I remember them days. Oh they got

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<v Speaker 2>your boy, they got your boy, they got you, they

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<v Speaker 2>got me.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah they what do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Call them about? You know, I went over the back there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it was the Buffalo with heavy Thurman Thomas,

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<v Speaker 2>bruisy biscuits. Cornelia's been itt Jim Jim Kelly. With Jim Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Jim, you're not a rookie. Jim buying everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Kelly if the great. He might have been the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest Pro Bowl teammate because he's there for everything. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what he was with the quarterback, but they

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<v Speaker 2>just benevolent.

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<v Speaker 5>They you want.

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<v Speaker 2>To drink, brodrink. But okay, so so you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>you don't feel like you I'm turning you down. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take one. But it's great And that's the best

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<v Speaker 2>part about it. That's the thing that you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>going to the Pro Bowl meeting the guys, getting an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to sit around and talk and meet their family. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my mom, this is my dad, and take

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<v Speaker 2>the pictures with their brothers and sisters and uh that

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<v Speaker 2>was that was a great experience.

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<v Speaker 1>For me seeing people out of that element.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah element.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and actually I think the first time actually seeing

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<v Speaker 4>Ray Lewis well, me and Ray knew each other for years.

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<v Speaker 4>But seeing Peyton, yes, Peyton Manning being Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 4>not the same Peyton I saw throughout the season, This

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<v Speaker 4>isn't the same Peyton that does the interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing Peyton Manning be Peyton Manning and not having to

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<v Speaker 1>be politically correct.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, answer your questions with a mic in front of

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<v Speaker 4>his face was one of the most enjoyable moments, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh shit.

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<v Speaker 5>These dudes are normal.

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<v Speaker 1>They know, they just they just like they just like me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know in a sense.

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<v Speaker 4>And the fact that they always have to mask it

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<v Speaker 4>once you playing football and once you're putting the helmet

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<v Speaker 4>on like that has to be that has to be

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<v Speaker 4>draining to actually change like a comedian and be someone

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<v Speaker 4>we just can't be you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, I'm trying to think. I think my last

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<v Speaker 2>Pro Bowl, I think Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Steve

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<v Speaker 2>McNair rest his soul might have been my quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait you was there?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait?

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<v Speaker 5>Year was that?

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<v Speaker 2>The one? Okay? Year? Baltimore. Okay, my last year, My

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<v Speaker 2>last year in Baltimore. Oh, I had some great ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I played with uh Marino, l Way, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>Warren Moon. Oh, Joe Montana was my quarterback one year,

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<v Speaker 2>one year, I think it was Danny, Joe Montana and Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>I had l Way, Kelly and Marino. Go dang, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you boy, hey. I went on to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>me one catch. That's all I wanted to do. Get

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<v Speaker 2>me one catch. Let my grandma see me catch a

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<v Speaker 2>pass and get out again out of that thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, oh Joe. Let me tell you what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>One year in ninety six, Jacksonville had beat us. So

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<v Speaker 2>ninety Jacksonville had beat us in the playoffs, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it was me and Coats or the tight ends Ben Coats. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>now you know it's only two tight ends and we're

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<v Speaker 2>running double tight can't running two tight ends? Now we got?

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<v Speaker 2>We got? I said, bro, why was it? Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 2>now mind you I ain't got no contract. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>free agent, right man. And I say, I said, looking, man,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all need to stop running this type double type stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna play the first being, gonna play the second,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take it. The third brand braingment home right.

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<v Speaker 2>They kept running double type. I went and got me

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<v Speaker 2>two bags ice and put on my knees. I said, Ben,

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<v Speaker 2>you got it the rest of the way. Come on, sharp,

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<v Speaker 2>don't do I tell you. Mm hmm sharp done.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, don't play with that money. I ain't get the

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<v Speaker 5>money yet.

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<v Speaker 2>No, oh no, mm hmmmm hm.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, Dermandy and Dawson to tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>he pulled his hamstring at the Pro Bowl and he

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<v Speaker 2>was never the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, he was going full speed.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to kise somebody on an interception. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>tried to catch time. Yeah, look it up, Dermody, Dawson, yeap,

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<v Speaker 2>oh Man. But you but you have to understand Ojo.

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<v Speaker 2>Back then, guys, would I mean you know back then

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<v Speaker 2>to win the winning prize was ten thousand. The losers

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<v Speaker 2>got five thousand, right, So by the time you brought

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<v Speaker 2>everybody over there, that five thousand was gone. That's ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand was gone.

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<v Speaker 5>That's gone. That's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Now come come third come fourth quarter? Oh, BRUCEI core test.

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<v Speaker 1>They're coming.

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<v Speaker 2>They them been bull driving for three quarter not of

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<v Speaker 2>money on the line.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's that's how that's how we were, that's how

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<v Speaker 4>he was to We were the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh it was. And you know in practice, you know, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, g time, t time, rest your soul. Junior said, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to play tight end. Okay, hey, he playing tighter.

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<v Speaker 2>He playing tight end. I'm playing livebacker. So called the

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<v Speaker 2>practice off because we had all the defensive players wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to play the position. He's like, we're not getting anything done.

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<v Speaker 2>He called, hey, take it in. Okay, we booked them

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<v Speaker 2>out of there, but those were some great times.

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<v Speaker 5>Your good day, Good days.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow. You gotta get up early tomorrow. I gotta get

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<v Speaker 2>up even earlier and do first take with Steven A

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<v Speaker 2>and the guys. So we'll be back Thursday for nightcap.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your favorite UNC Shannon Shark, He's your favorite number

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five Chad o Yo Fenko Johnson call me if.

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<v Speaker 5>You need me.

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<v Speaker 2>Nightcap o Joe, we're out