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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. Great, thanks for joining us. Let's jump right

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Speaker 2: into it, Ohoe. Tonight, the Seahawks hammer the Giants twenty

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Speaker 2: four to three. Remember they got beat forty nothing at

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Speaker 2: home open the night against the Cowboys. Cowboys, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 2: was sacked ten times, two picks fumble loss. Let's just say,

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Speaker 2: Danny Dims tonight wasn't worth a wooden nickel what you

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Speaker 2: got for me?

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I love Daniel Jones. I love him obviously. He is

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Speaker 4: the forty million dollars quarterback in the Big Apple. The

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Speaker 4: New York Giants. They decided not to pay Saquon Barkley obviously,

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Speaker 4: even though Saquon Barkley is hurt, I think he could

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Speaker 4: have he could have helped a little bit to that.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it would have changed the outcome of

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Speaker 4: the game. But Daniel Jones, just watching him play the

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Speaker 4: first half his longest, his longest pass in the first

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Speaker 4: to get you a w at all at all. Darren Waller, if.

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, had two catches, Yeah, two catches, if

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. They were moving the ball. They were

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Speaker 4: Down the field. They were fishing. But you had a fumble.

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Speaker 4: That fumble when when that Daniel Jones strip sacked, slip

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Speaker 4: sacking and get you know what, the see off gout

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Speaker 1: They got points out of that. There was a picks

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Speaker 1: there was a pick six.

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Speaker 2: Who did that.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones? Okay, Devin Witherspoon played out of his mind.

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Speaker 1: But I'm i'mnn still imna stall, imna sick with the

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Speaker 4: It was an atrocious showing by the Giants offensively. If

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Speaker 4: there was a shiny light or a glimmer of hope

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Speaker 4: for the Giants, it was Keevon Thibodeaux.

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Speaker 1: It was Kevon Thibodeaux.

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Speaker 4: He played some good goddamn football tonight and was one

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Speaker 2: You know, they say money doesn't change you, it makes

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Speaker 2: doesn't change you, it makes you richer of what you

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Speaker 2: already are. Daniel Jones is a richer average quarterback. And

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Speaker 2: somehow owners and general managers think that, you know what,

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Speaker 2: if we paid this guy, he'll all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: get it. That's not how it works, O Joe. You

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Speaker 2: If you're not self motivated, it's gonna be hard for

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Speaker 2: That's what he is. And somehow they thought by giving

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Speaker 4: But I think we say he was an average quarterback

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Speaker 4: based on the standard that we hold quarterbacks to. Your

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Speaker 2: twenty million because that's just what that's what the market.

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Speaker 1: That's not That's not the way the NFL works. You

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Speaker 4: You know how hard it is to find a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So you just even though you don't you do you

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Speaker 2: believe the Giants actually think this guy can take them

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Speaker 2: I believe I'm not the Giants. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: cut in the check the Giants in order. And man,

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Speaker 2: you said about him in Week one.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they have the tools to be able

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have the tools because they not

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Speaker 4: For one, with the tools they do have at their disposal,

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Speaker 1: They just not.

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Speaker 2: What here's the thing? Go ahead?

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Speaker 4: And now that I think about it, I think about

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Speaker 2: And they ran the football with Thomas Jones and.

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Speaker 1: They ran the football. Obviously it is a past happy league.

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Speaker 1: Now they have a great, great weaponry over there. Sterling

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Speaker 1: Shepherd said, we don't we don't need, we don't need.

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Speaker 1: You don't need superstars to get that.

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Speaker 2: You don't need superstars. You gotta have superstar receivers or

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Speaker 4: You don't have to be great to win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: When is the last time we had a great receiver

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Speaker 2: You had a great quarterback's Patrick Mahold, not a great

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Speaker 2: what you're telling me?

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Speaker 4: You know it comes into play. You know it comes

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Speaker 4: into play. If you have average, an average at receiving quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Comes into play. Then you know we're at rich.

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Speaker 4: But listen, that's where your coaching comes into play. That's

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Speaker 4: where your play calling comes into play. That's when if

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Speaker 4: dept you got to play a different kind of way

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Speaker 4: of way. If you want to win, Oh ch'all the

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Speaker 4: figure it out.

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Speaker 2: You can't. The reason do you believe the pages when

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Speaker 2: they was winning all of those Super Bowls? Do you

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Speaker 2: believe they could have won I'm not the first one notwithstanding,

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Speaker 2: but do you could have you believe they could have

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Speaker 2: won those Super Bowls without the greatness of Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: They could have taken any other average quarterback. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: leave everything else the same. The only thing I'm removing

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Speaker 2: is Tom Brady. Do you believe they win those championships? No? Okay,

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Speaker 2: Now with that being said, you just told me you

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Speaker 2: can take an average quarterback, average reiver.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. No, No, that's that's not what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying if you have an if I don't like

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Speaker 4: calling nobody average.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 4: This is the NFL. They're they're there for a reason.

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Speaker 4: He are the one percent levels. Okay, there is levels,

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Speaker 4: but listen to me. If you have an average quarterback

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Speaker 4: average receivers, that means the coaching philosophy, the scheme in

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Speaker 1: It has to be that much better. That's where the

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's not excellent O's. It's Gym's and Joe's.

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Speaker 2: So you keep telling me coaches. Coach, Okay, coach is

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Speaker 1: Coach Belichick is is a defensive mind, right coach.

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: He was defense with John Brady.

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Speaker 4: The defensive minded coast though, how's the New England? How's

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna tell you all these great you say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: How did he do it? Kansas? Okay? Josh McDaniels, how

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Speaker 2: Who else? Bill O'Brien, how did he do in Houston?

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Speaker 2: So you keep telling me, excellent, You keep telling me

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Speaker 2: the great minds, the great minds. Stop fooling yourself.

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Speaker 5: O Jo, you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does come down to players. But again, this

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Speaker 4: is the NFL. This is NFL. Even though there are tears.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, in order for things to work, in

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Speaker 1: And now if.

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Speaker 4: You have an ad you have average players, and you

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Speaker 4: to come into play.

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Speaker 1: And be that much more better than what you have than.

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Speaker 4: The product on the field. It just has to or

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Speaker 4: it gets exposed. And right now they're getting there getting exposed.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, all I'm saying is that the only thing

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get now. You keep saying is tiers, T E,

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Speaker 2: A R S. Tiers.

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Speaker 1: It's only a few tier ones. It's only a handful

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Speaker 4: Yes, And everybody ever got to come to play everybody

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, Daniel Jones is not even tier two or

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Speaker 4: I didn't speak on him being Tier one, two or three.

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Speaker 4: I just talked about what he did to night and

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Speaker 4: it wasn't sufficient I did that. What about wasn't sufficient

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't about week one that was that was bad.

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Speaker 4: That was bad all the flass board only. I only

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Speaker 2: You keep it all up.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't all up and arm because it

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Speaker 2: You dy got win.

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Speaker 1: Somebody got to lose.

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Speaker 2: You keep you keep getting, you keep this goodness you

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Speaker 2: and Daniel Jones keep giving you these performances. So how

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Speaker 5: Be with him.

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Speaker 1: I just said he didn't play well tonight.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: He played well enough. He's done just enough to get

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Speaker 2: So we're blacing everything on your.

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Speaker 4: There's something, there's something that the Giants organization saw in

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Speaker 2: So are you working for the Giants? Are you working

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Speaker 4: Okay, I just told you what I saw and now

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Speaker 4: I said it to night. I'm not gonna say any

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Speaker 1: I stated.

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Speaker 4: He threw interception. Two of them at that one. Diggs

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Speaker 4: ended up in points. Yes, he didn't play well tonight. Okay,

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Speaker 2: He didn't so so over the course of his career,

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Speaker 4: And that's a that's a goddamn good question that's got

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Speaker 4: But based on based on what you're saying, I haven't

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Speaker 2: Five years stop it league A long time, yeah, he asked.

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Speaker 4: I think what we've been able to see from him

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Speaker 2: And because he.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't if he wasn't as bad as you think, if

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Speaker 1: At the Giants see that.

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Speaker 4: I can't There's nothing I can say.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're on here for. But I I just

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Speaker 2: So everybody, everybody, everybody that's gotten the contract in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying deserve because deserve is the same. But

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Speaker 1: Got it. You have to do You have to do something.

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Speaker 4: There has to be something that they see for you

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Speaker 1: Just know, anybody, you know what, here you go, he

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Speaker 2: That's not what you just told me. You just told me.

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Speaker 2: Where else where the Giant's gonna go. They had to

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying, I'm not saying it in that matter.

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Speaker 4: He was the best option at the time, which is

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Speaker 2: So would you rather get hit by matt truck or

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Speaker 1: Either way, You're gonna either way, Daddy.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've been trying to get you to say.

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Speaker 2: You see how simple that was. See, once I give

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Speaker 1: Listen, you kill it. You're killing me when we it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in your top tiers you got by four or

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Speaker 4: five players, Yes, you got four or five players.

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Speaker 1: So everybody else you got to have something to work with.

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Speaker 4: So there's something that the giants saw in Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: This is all we got to work with right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's it, that's it. I think the problem that

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Speaker 2: Now you're asking Daniel Jones and mediocre receivers. And then look,

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Speaker 4: And again that's why the first thing I said, if

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Speaker 1: If you have so called average receivers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that means to mask and get the most out

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Speaker 2: Okay, so tell me the it just doesn't tell me.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, he's he's in Kansas City. And the other

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Speaker 2: He's Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: And it's another one named last name Shanahan. He's with

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Speaker 2: But here is the thing. If you have average quarterback

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Speaker 2: What is what is Daniel Jones done just about as

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Speaker 1: He's turned it all over. So now you gotta protect

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Speaker 2: You don't have greatness Like Patrick Mahomes can play bad,

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Speaker 2: won't do that for receiver. They won't do that for

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Speaker 4: But this is this is the funny thing about it.

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Speaker 2: Can you be that is?

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Speaker 1: It's still hard to find. It's hard to find.

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Speaker 2: Oh Jo. The problem that I have is that you

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Speaker 5: He got ten tonight tonight, Yeah, yeah, ten.

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Speaker 2: And so I just don't understand the Giants philosophy is

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Speaker 1: Right between the numbers.

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Speaker 2: Rails. I like a reservation for six and that's a

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. The Giants are the Giants now

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Speaker 2: Sakuon Barkley is missed, Daniel Jones has more interceptions than touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: In games that Sakuon Barkley does not play, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that again, John Marra, the tissues, whomever

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Speaker 2: Barkley is the engine.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knew that, but for some reason they oh.

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Speaker 4: They knew, they knew, they knew they understand. They understand,

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Speaker 2: To totally line for the NFL lead to keep the

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Speaker 1: They trying to suppress the mark yep, yeah, but not suffering.

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Speaker 2: True. Let's move it along. Rodney Harrison. I played against Rodney.

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Speaker 2: I lived in Atlanta, so I know Rodney very well.

440
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 2: He said something last night where Chris Jones after the game,

441
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: and he asked him, did it surprise you that Zach

442
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 2: Wilson played so well considering what you had seen on tape?

443
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: And he caught a lot of blowback because people and

444
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: and and I want to get your thoughts, and I'm

445
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: gonna go back and tell you what I'm thinking. And

446
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: he caught a lot of blowback for what he said.

447
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: And then he refhrayed ask him another way, and he

448
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 2: said that he was garbage. What what are your what

449
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on what Rodney said? And how Chris

450
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: Jones handled that.

451
00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: Chris Jones class act class act? He the class act.

452
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 4: Rodney Harrison trying to bait him into saying something bad

453
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 4: about Zach based on Rodney's assessment, based on Zach's play,

454
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 4: and everywhere everybody else has been saying. And I like

455
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 4: to think I'm one of the few that have always

456
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: stuck up a Zach, you know, for the past three years.

457
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: But that was and I had this problem with you.

458
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 4: Before as well, with you wanting me to be a

459
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 4: little bit more critical of players so I can have

460
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 4: some type of credibility when I am talking about the

461
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,239
Speaker 4: players and being able to analyze them and making a

462
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 4: fair assessment and about their play. And I and I

463
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 4: kind of shun on the idea of doing so because

464
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 4: players don't really take it well. They take it personal,

465
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 4: you know. And one of the things for someone like

466
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 4: Rodney Harrison, who's been in the business on the other

467
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 4: side now for quite some time, I think was very unprofessional,

468
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 4: very unprofessional, to to go that route and speak that

469
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 4: way about about a player in that manner. There are

470
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 4: ways to analyze and critique players on their play out

471
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 4: at being personal.

472
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: Oh And that was just a little that was a

473
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: little over the line for me, just a little a

474
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: little over the line.

475
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: So you think that his use of word, the term

476
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 2: garbage made it personal to you.

477
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that's personal, and that's not the way to

478
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 4: conduct an interview in general, talking about another player, especially

479
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 4: trying to debate another player to agree with you on

480
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: what you're saying, just to say something bad like you

481
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 4: don't do that. It might have been the right message,

482
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: the wrong messenger, right message, wrong messenger.

483
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: I think the thing what happened is that he was

484
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: fine when he said, Chris, are you surprised how well

485
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: Zach played considering what you had seen on tape? And

486
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: be honest, I believe if he had left honest out

487
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: because when I ask you a question, if I'm asking

488
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: the player a question, I'm expecting him to be honest.

489
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: And even though deep down in the back of my mind,

490
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: I don't believe he's honest considering that I played the game,

491
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: I was in the locker room, and so I'm assessing

492
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: that's not for me to decide, that's not for me

493
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: to try to come back and says, Okay. Now here's

494
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: another thing Rodney has to understand. NBC has the game right,

495
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: and they have what we call production meeting. You've been

496
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: in production meetings. I've been in production meeting a lot

497
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: of the key offensive players, defensive players, and coaches before

498
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: the game. They go into they sit down and like, well,

499
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: how you're feeling? You know, you know, all we feel

500
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: good last week? Well, you know we came you know,

501
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: with a tough with a much needed win or a

502
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: very tough loss. We're looking to get back on the

503
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 2: right track. YadA, YadA, YadA. Right, you can't be as

504
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: critical as say me, because we're away from it. We

505
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: don't have the game. Even though if I'm on a network,

506
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 2: I'm not work for ESPN. I'm not like him going

507
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: into production meeting. So I'm father enough. Oh so NBC

508
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 2: is not going to get that kind of blowback, And

509
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: I mean NFP is not gonna get that blowback like

510
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: NBC is because of Rodney said that. And so for

511
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: me and I get it. I mean, we don't like

512
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: the considering that he used the term garbage and I

513
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: think that's kind of But like Rodney, Rodney said what

514
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: a lot of other analysts are thinking. They he just

515
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: have to be mindful of what he can and can't

516
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: say and say.

517
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a way, there's a way to get

518
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 4: your messages across and deliver it in a certain way. Again,

519
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: He's been in the business for a long time. There's

520
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 4: a way to do things, there's a way to say things,

521
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 4: you know, and just just it was distasteful, very distasteful.

522
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know how many you guys, because a

523
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: lot of you guys don't know. But Rodney was not

524
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: a slouch. Rodney was not some bumb I know a

525
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: lot of deal. Now, a lot of guys talking all

526
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: this gibberish. Y'll better go back, y'all. Hey, y'all better

527
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: go back to check this man.

528
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: Take a real deal. He was a real deal. I

529
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: played it, I played against.

530
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: The charge I played. I played against him also, I

531
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: played he was in my division for about about seven years.

532
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: So I know I know Rodney very well.

533
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: But I think I know about that farm too, oh

534
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: a lot.

535
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: Hey, Yeah, it had been tough for him to play

536
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: in today's game, Oh yeah, big time. Time they find

537
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: they find that that physicality that he brought to the table,

538
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: they to find that out of him. But I just

539
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: think the thing is, like I said, I know Rodney,

540
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: and I'll probably reach out to him tomorrow and talk

541
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: to him and get his thoughts in that conversation between

542
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: he and I remain private, but I just think sometimes

543
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: we just have to be mindful, especially him in his situation,

544
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: because he's actually talking to a player after the game,

545
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 2: and I believe he'd have been fine if he'd just said, Chris,

546
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: are you surprised how well Zach played tonight considering what

547
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: you had seen on tape? At this point, you don't

548
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: have to say, You don't have to say, and be honest,

549
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: right right, Just assume that he's gonna be honest, knowing

550
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: more time than not a lot of times, these guys

551
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: are really good. They've been coached up. They're gonna give

552
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: you coach speak. That's okay, But you ask the question. Now.

553
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave it till my viewing audience at home,

554
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: my listening audience to decide whether CJ is telling the

555
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: truth or not. That's not for me. That's not for

556
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: me to try to extract that information up out of it.

557
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: Ask the question, and if he answers it, hey, yeah,

558
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: I mean, but I thought he did. He's like, look,

559
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: he did play well tonight, he played he played, he

560
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: played well. We saw some big time throws that he

561
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: had made on tape. He made some of those throws tonight.

562
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: So I'm really not that surprised that he played as well.

563
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 2: But I was glad that we came out here with

564
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: the win. So CJ handled it perfectly. I just think

565
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: there are a few statements that Rodney could have made

566
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 2: differently that probably would have changed the complexion of the

567
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: of the interview.

568
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: So are you ready to also agree that he played well?

569
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: Are you still sticking with your sentiments that you said

570
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 4: yesterday that Zach Wilson didn't play well because you heard

571
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: Christ Jones said, you heard everybody else said, you heard

572
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes said, you played one hell of a game.

573
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: Keep going. So can we get that from you as well?

574
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 4: Can you right now say.

575
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: Now you know the game? If CJ wants to say that,

576
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: that's fine, But I already know. Coach quarterbacks, go stick

577
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: up for all the quarterbacks they're gonna give you, coach

578
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: they gonna get. I guarantee you Geno Smith to go

579
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: say Daniel Jones played well tonight. If you ask him,

580
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: I guarantee you he said, man, that was a tough game.

581
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: But I thought under the circumstances he played well. You

582
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: already know, so.

583
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 4: You're just not gonna get Jack Wilson's credit by the

584
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: last next game, get him.

585
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Credit for losing. I thought I thought the objective was

586
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: the winging.

587
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: So now you want me, I said, I see where

588
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: you're going?

589
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I said, no, I ain't going nowhere. I'm right here.

590
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm right here. I ain't going nowhere. We got I

591
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: got time tonight. I got time tonight.

592
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: So you ain't gonna give me credit?

593
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: Okay, tell me what I'm getting me?

594
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: Credit for playing a great game. They weren't able to

595
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: come out on the winning in. But what he did

596
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: in the game, some of the throws he made, is

597
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 4: a great foundation to build off of for the follow

598
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: But if.

599
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: You don't mind ask putting those last three possessions the

600
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: Giants had up on my screen, right quick? Come on,

601
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: that's a game. No no, no, no, no no, don't don't don't

602
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: don't don't don't now now all of a sudden, you

603
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: Stevie wonder now you waving side to side. Don't Stevene

604
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: want know me? Now? No, let's let's put this up

605
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: on the board. His last three possession, give me those

606
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: right quick, okay. Wilson's last three possession a punt three

607
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: and oh, three and out, punt, fumble, Wilson. Zach Wilson's

608
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: last three gives ended a punt which was three and out,

609
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: another punt and a fumble. Now tell me this greatness,

610
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: where was the greatness in that? Okay?

611
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: So, so the game, the game came down to those,

612
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 4: those those last three possessions.

613
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: Yes, in a game of that magnitude, that's tied. You

614
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: absolutely right, it comes down to those.

615
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 4: And again, let me remind you about some of the

616
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: players before that happened.

617
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: All that, all that doesn't matter, because how many times

618
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: have we seen other quarterbacks played bad? Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,

619
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert a tour? How many

620
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: times Dak Prance got How many times have we seen

621
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: quarterbacks Lamar Jackson? How many times have we seen quarterbacks

622
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: play bad, but when they need to make have a

623
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: drive to get a game time field goal, a win,

624
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: or not let the team get the ball back, they

625
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: do that? How many times?

626
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: All right, you're right, you're right, I'm gonna let you

627
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: have this one. We were gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna

628
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: come back to this.

629
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: You'll see remember this. Jayon don't jump on the jail.

630
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: Don't jump on the god damn Zach Wilson bandwagon later

631
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: on in the season either, Bro.

632
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: He got four flat times and the engine missing. He

633
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: ain't going nowhere. Why don't jump on that. He ain't

634
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: going nowhere?

635
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: Remember that, keep that same energy.

636
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, triple A, triple A on

637
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: the way right now. To try to get you, Try

638
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: to get you going riding the tow truck. You know,

639
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: you break down of the road and you don't want

640
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: to ride the car. You know, you right up there

641
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: with the tow truck drive you today? But hey, man,

642
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: what happened to shaw car? But I believe you know what,

643
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you have that bandwagon all to yourself.

644
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: I don't even get on it because I don't wanted

645
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: to get cried.

646
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: Because everybody else on there with me.

647
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're the only one in on there because we

648
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 4: can see you can't see.

649
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: We can see what's coming.

650
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: Hmmm. I don't know. Objects are closer than they're up here. Yeah,

651
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: you about to get science wipe o joke.

652
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: We ain't even looking at it.

653
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: We ain't even look in the mirrors you, We ain't

654
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 4: looking in the mirrors were looking straight ahead.

655
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: Jay Z caught him flat he was talking about he

656
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: was starting with Kevin Hart, and Kevin Hart had said

657
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: that it was it's a difficult conversation to have with cousins,

658
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: and jay Z said, yeah, we go to your aunt's house,

659
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: and you go to your mom house and your cousin's

660
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: over and they're pitching you. Hey, bro, I got this

661
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: great idea. I need forty eight hundred and I'm gonna

662
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: get your two mail back, and so people and then

663
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: everybody started listing of Jeff Bezos got a loan from

664
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: his father, and Bill and Bill Gates got alan from

665
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: his father, and the Walton family got along from his dad.

666
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Ain't nobody mentioned nothing but no cousins.

667
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: All they mentioned about was kids getting loans from there. Now,

668
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: I guarantee you. Now, I know, I don't know the

669
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: name of James z twins, but I know the oldest

670
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: daughter is named Blue Ivy. I guarantee you. If Blue

671
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: Ivy went to her dad, went to her mom and said, Mom, Dad,

672
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: look what I've been trying. This is what I need

673
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 2: to do, and I need a little extra capital to

674
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: get this thing really really going. I don't think whole.

675
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: I don't think bait is gonna.

676
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: Have a problem.

677
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying bait Beyonce. I'm not saying bass. So I'm

678
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: gonna be disrespectful to that man, Beyonce. Uh, it's gonna

679
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: say no. So Sam Walton, Jeff Bezo, Phil Knight, Elon Musk,

680
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, Mark Zuckerberg, all got capital. Thank you. I

681
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: ain't say nothing my cousins. Now, go back and look

682
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: at jay Z's history. He's taking care of his mom,

683
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: He's taking care of his brothers and.

684
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Sisters, immediate immediate family.

685
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: He got a home, got a homeboy named Ti Ti

686
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: that I've heard him speak glowingly about. Y'all need listen.

687
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: It would be nice if Hole Warner had some first cousins,

688
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: some second cousin or third cousin or what we that's

689
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: what we call dog kin. You're close to kin to

690
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: a Saint Bernard, then you have that third fourth cousin.

691
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: But I'm not that we called dog kid down South.

692
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: But anyway, it's so, if that would be nice, if

693
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: jay Z said, you know what a I want to

694
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: break y'all along. But jay Z is under no obligatiation.

695
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: I don't care what if I had a billion dollars.

696
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 2: That's probably why you couldn't get to a billion dollars

697
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: because you're giving away money that you don't have. Yeah.

698
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the funny thing that this is the funny

699
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 4: thing about family. This is the funny thing about family.

700
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 4: It's the funny thing about friends. Everybody always has idea.

701
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: Everybody has Everybody always has this idea on how to

702
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 4: make money, but they need your money in order to

703
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: do it right. They always need your money to do it.

704
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: But one half the time they don't think these plans

705
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 4: and ways to make money out. There's no there's no

706
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: business plan to it, and just an idea in your head.

707
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 4: And as soon as they bring your idea and you

708
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 4: ask them, will show me a business plan and show

709
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: me how you're going to let me give you say something.

710
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: Never have anything to show up. It's just a thought.

711
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: It's just a thought. And and something about.

712
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 4: Our people is we really have no respect or value

713
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 4: for a dollar, no at all.

714
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 2: And you have an expect and you automatically expect because

715
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: we think, oh, if I make it, I'm supposed to

716
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 2: bring everybody all twenty all three hundred and seventy five

717
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: of my closest kid and all work in.

718
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 4: All three all three hundred and seventy five and be broke. Yes,

719
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: and then everybody, Oh Joe, it trips me out with people.

720
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: You're like you, You try to help everybody. Then all

721
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 4: of a sudden you go broke.

722
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know how you lost all that money,

723
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: given it to you more folds, and how I lost

724
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: all my money. I'm helping you with car payment, I'm

725
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: helping you with your kids, I'm helping you with house. No,

726
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: I'm helping you do all this other stuff. And then

727
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 2: when I go broke. Now y'all looking at me crazy.

728
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Listen. One of the fastest ways to go broke

729
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 4: is not learning how to stay say no. It's normally family.

730
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: It's normally family that will continue to drain you. Sometimes

731
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 4: it's a closer, your closest relatives. Sometimes it's your own

732
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 4: mom and your own daddy. Sometimes you got to know,

733
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: you got to know how to how to deal with

734
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 4: them at arms length.

735
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: When they don't have structure, discipline.

736
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: That is the most dangerous thing for young athletes, or

737
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 4: for anyone that has money in general.

738
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: They will continue to drain you over and over. When

739
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: you give them.

740
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: Once, they gonna come back when it run out. Yeah,

741
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: you get you get somebody five grand. All you're doing

742
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: if you take take man.

743
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: Somebody five grand? Man, Man, you making five six million dollars.

744
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: What's ten grand to you?

745
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 5: Who?

746
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: That's five thousand more than you started with. That's a

747
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: thousand more than you started with. You over here my

748
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: pocket talking about all that money I'm making. Considering that

749
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: you came to me asking for money, you should be grateful.

750
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: And I'm giving you the money with no expectation of

751
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 2: you returning it because that's normal, that's what I do.

752
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: I'm never going to give somebody money that I'm expecting

753
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: it back, because all it's gonna do is gonna call us.

754
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna cause me to lose. It's gonna cause our

755
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: friendship or our relate or our kinship. It's gonna cause

756
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: a friction. Because if I give you money and I

757
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 2: expect it back and you don't pay me, now, I'm

758
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: not gonna see everybody always want you to man. Man,

759
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: that little bit of money now, it's a little bit

760
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: of money, and I want you to pay it back.

761
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of money. You didn't say that

762
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: when you came in and.

763
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: Asked me for it.

764
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: You ain't mentioned about the whole little piece of money,

765
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 2: that a little bit of a man. Let me hold

766
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of money, you asked me. Let me

767
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: borrow thousand, Let me hold five thousand. I ain't got

768
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: no problem with that. I'm gonna get I have in

769
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: the past, my uncles and aunts. I went to the

770
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 2: suit a. Okay, man, I have an uncle. Every time

771
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: my homeboy, my homeboys and friends come around. Man, you

772
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: know I used to change dicas on that boy laugh

773
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: O Joe, every oh Joe, every time I come around my.

774
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: Home boy, the old school story.

775
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: Man, you know, I changed. So I pulled them to

776
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: the side. I gave thirty five hundred dollars. I said,

777
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: don't tell that damn story no more now. Okay, I'm dad,

778
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 2: said you laughing, oh Joe, But I'm dead serious. I said,

779
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: don't tell that story no more now.

780
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

781
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: So that's that's the end of that story. But I

782
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: go to the super Bowl and I come back. I

783
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: give my mom had eight brothers and sisters, all of

784
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: them was married. I come home five thousand for you.

785
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 5: The hunt.

786
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: Even though if it's not. But you know they they

787
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: they my relative through through my through you know, through

788
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: my mom I gave, I give my her sisters, I

789
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: give their husband. Same thing. Boom boom boom. Okay, you

790
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: wasn't going to the Gamecuse me when it came to

791
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. The first time you see me play?

792
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: Was it gonna be in the Super Bowl? If you

793
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: hadn't seen a preseason game or regular season game or

794
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: play the game, and you think the first time that

795
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 2: you gonna see me play Super Bowl and ain't happening.

796
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 2: That ain't happening. But man, people need to stop this. Man,

797
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: if I had a billion dollars, no, you wouldn't know.

798
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know, you would you wouldn't.

799
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: People always say what they would do because they've never

800
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: been in that situation.

801
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: Frustration And the funny thing about it, another thing we

802
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: need to learn. We have no no, no structure, no

803
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 4: discipline when it comes to spending money. We have the

804
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 4: mindset is I'm gonna blow a bag and go make

805
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 4: it right back.

806
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: And always listen and always think that every.

807
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: Play, that play that you always doing, or whether a

808
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: hustle that may be, it ain't gonna always hit.

809
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna always be hitting whatever it is that.

810
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: You may be doing, whether it's whether it's something good

811
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 4: or whether it's something bad. It ain't gonna always hit

812
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 4: the way you think. It is just that our mindset

813
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: and the way we think. Man, there's no type of

814
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: discipline when that comes to spending money. And they always

815
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 4: got an idea. Everybody always had this wonderful idea on

816
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: a way to make money, but never have none of

817
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: their own.

818
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: No. Always, like I said, and when people like, well,

819
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do for your kids, my kids will

820
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: tell you go ask an in my kids, they're gonna

821
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: tell you I'm daddy. Is I'm dad? Is the last option,

822
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: not the first choice? Because I get I sent you

823
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: to private school, I sent you to college. Okay, Now,

824
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: if you can't figure it out, let's talk about it now.

825
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: Don't go make a mistake and then come ask daddy

826
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: to bail you out, because you should have asked daddy first, right,

827
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: because you know, a lot of times I'm grown. You

828
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: know what I noticed. My kids are always grown when

829
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: it comes except with money. They ain't grown when it

830
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: come to money. When it come to money, you know,

831
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm dead a little girl, I'm dead, little boy. Whoa

832
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: you think you could drink and you could curse me.

833
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: You can do all this stuff, but now you need

834
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: some money. You ain't grown no more. Yeah, but my

835
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: kids have been very, very good, but they know I'm

836
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: last option, not first choice. Now we're gonna sit down

837
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: and talk about it, and I'm gonna I'm gonna help

838
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna leave. I'm gonna help

839
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: them out once because my kids are knock on wood,

840
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: they've never been a because I say, if you ever

841
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: get in trouble, you get a d U. I h

842
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: I already know my kids will tell you if you

843
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: were to get a DU. I want you who the first.

844
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: I'm not calling my dad. I'm gonna tell my mom

845
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: not to tell my dad because I gonna be in

846
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: the pen right I'm gonna be in the pen right

847
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: next to you. But for a whole different reason. So

848
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: they already know. Day Listen, I work my tail off

849
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: because a lot of what I do is for for

850
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: the kids and the grandkids. My son has I have

851
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: a grandson, but you know, hopefully, knock on wood, my

852
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: daughter's gonna get married and have kids, and so what

853
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: I'm working hard for now is to start it because

854
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: you know, my mom and dad and my grandparents didn't

855
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: have anything to leave me. But I'm gonna leave my

856
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 2: kids and kids, kids, kids, well well off. They're gonna

857
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: be straight now. I'm not gonna say they're gonna be

858
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 2: as as business minded as I am. And every shiny

859
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: toy that comes along, like I want this new card,

860
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: I want that because eventually, if y'all don't do the

861
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: right things, the business is gonna go away. The money's

862
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: gonna disciplate.

863
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: Grade, it's gonna run away. Yeah, yeah, disappear.

864
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 2: But I understand what Jay, And it's only people that's

865
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: in that situation that have money, And I don't have

866
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: nearly the money that Jay Z has or or or

867
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: Kevin Hard or any of these people that were mentioned.

868
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: But you have to say no, O Joe, You're absolutely right.

869
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: You have to be willing to say no and be

870
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: okay with that.

871
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand.

872
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think people understand how difficult it

873
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: is to navigate having large sums of money, especially when

874
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: you've had it for a while, or just being a

875
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: rookie for that matter, or just coming into your own

876
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 4: or coming into money and having all these new friends,

877
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 4: you having all these new friends, all this pressure and

878
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 4: won the fit in and you think you're given and and.

879
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: All of it. I call it transit, transactional access. H

880
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: you don't need, you don't need, you don't need nobody.

881
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: You don't need, you don't need the entourage, because every

882
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: time you see entourage, it's only one person really got money. Yeah,

883
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: and you and you got and then you got to feed,

884
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: you got you got to feed all them different mouths.

885
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 5: Man.

886
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: I just it's it's crazy. It's crazy. I mean, we

887
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 4: could talk about that topic. I can go on and

888
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 4: on and on. You know, when it comes to financial

889
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 4: literacy that that's that's my thing.

890
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm on that.

891
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm on that. I remember a couple of years ago

892
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: there was an article that came out that I think

893
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: doctor dre daughter, he was taking care of her, he

894
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: was financially supporting her. And I think she had lost

895
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: a range Rover after her for she had four kids.

896
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: And I'm not I don't want to. I just know

897
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: I think it was a couple of different dads. I

898
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: don't want to say four different baby dads, but I

899
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: think maybe one or two different dads and people like

900
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 2: man jay Z excuse me, doctor Dre has all that money.

901
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: Doctor Dre is not under an obligation. All. You know

902
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: what I told my kids, Oh Joe, I say, all

903
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: I owe you is in education. I don't know you

904
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: anything else. I could die and leave everything that I've

905
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: worked my butt off to you. But I don't owe

906
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 2: you that. I owe you an education to give you

907
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: the best education I possibly can to get you started.

908
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: After that, this notion that you owe your kids, you

909
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: see the problem. You know why. You know we've made

910
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: lazy kids. You know why we made lazy kids because

911
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: in our mind we want them to have it easier

912
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: than what we had it. Right, you couldn't have gotten

913
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: where you got. You wouldn't have gotten to where you

914
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: if your mom would have babied you like you do

915
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 2: some of your kids. You're not o your SINKO. I'm

916
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: damn sure not.

917
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 4: Shanning Sharp right, that's a good one, And that's that's

918
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 4: a very touchy subject too. That's a very touchy subject

919
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 4: because some of the times I've seen it on Twitter

920
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 4: before Jackie Chan when he's talking about as well and

921
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: he said, yeah, I wasn't leaving he was leaving any

922
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 4: of his fortune to his kids and just watching Twitter

923
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: go going to uproar. All parents always want their kids

924
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 4: to suffer so they ain't have to like and so

925
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: that that's that's a touchy subject, is as far as

926
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 4: when it when it comes to my kids, they know

927
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 4: if they need anything, I'm the first and the last option.

928
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 4: You know, if you have somewhere to go, it's okay.

929
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 4: But if you need it, you know you can call now.

930
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 4: If it's something extreme and out the blue, you already

931
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: know it's not happening.

932
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: We talk about it. We talk about important stuff. We

933
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: talk about necessities, not wants.

934
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 5: Now.

935
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: The wants we'll do those things around the holidays, you know, Christmas, birthdays,

936
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: we'll take care of you wants then.

937
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: But anything that's a necessity that you need, they know

938
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: they can call it any time.

939
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: But that that's that's a very touch that's a very

940
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 4: touchy subject, which you just said, very very touch.

941
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: But you notice everybody always have ideals how you should

942
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: spend your money. Yeah, yeah, everybody. Everybody got great ideas

943
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: with your money. Man, I would do this, I would

944
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: do that. You wouldn't know, you wouldn't. It's easy. It's

945
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: easy to say because I remember my brother had money

946
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: before I had it, and I couldn't understand. Man, you

947
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: got money? Man? What that I used to leave the

948
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: door wide open? He's like, Bro, are you trying to

949
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: cool or you trying to heat the outside? Also, man,

950
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: all that money you got, he said, you were Man, Man,

951
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: my kid, don't do see that? Dude letting this air,

952
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: let this heat up out this house? What the hell

953
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: wrong with y'all?

954
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 5: I don't know.

955
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: Georgia power and you have a greater appreciation for it

956
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: when it's yours, when it's coming out of your pockets,

957
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: and now you want people to understand it and respect

958
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: it and value it like you do. That's the hardest

959
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: thing to get somebody to value things. But it's hard

960
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: to value something that you didn't you didn't buy, you

961
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: didn't create, or work you don't own or you didn't

962
00:46:54,600 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: work for. It's hard, Yeah, but once you get to

963
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: that point. I treat people stuff because how I would

964
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 2: won't my stuff treated? I don't you know? You know what?

965
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 5: Hey?

966
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: I asked if I go to somebody's house, which is

967
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: a rarity. I think I can count. I think I

968
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: can count. Oh yourright, no, line, I think I can

969
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: count on one hand how many piece people houses I've

970
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: been in the last ten years.

971
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: Trying to think I got back three.

972
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 2: I don't. I can't remember. Let me tell you something.

973
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: And people go like, man, what I haven't spent the

974
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: night at the girl's house, at her house probably thirty

975
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: and probably thirty years. What. I had a bad situation.

976
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: Oh, he pulled up on you. He pulled up on you.

977
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: Oh you put can you pull that scrap out of

978
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: I had? Oh?

979
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: No, I had two situations. Check this out. I had

980
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: just I had just got drafted. This was in This

981
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: was in May of nineteen ninety. Yeah, And I called

982
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: a young lady that I used to mess I used

983
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: to talk to, but I didn't mess with anymore. So

984
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: I was coming back from Denver because I was still

985
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: in school. But I didn't want to drive home in

986
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: the middle of the night and wake my grandma up

987
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: because she was gonna like fake something wrong. So I

988
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: was like, I called, I said, hey, you see anybody.

989
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: She's like, no, I ain't see nobody. I said, I

990
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: don't want to wake my grandmother up. I could have

991
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: just went. I could have went and got a hotel

992
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: room for fifty dollars. That's what I need to do.

993
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,959
Speaker 1: Being fast and you're being hot.

994
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: No, check this out, Oh Joe, check this out. She said, No,

995
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: you can come on over. So I go over. Something

996
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: tells me, oh Joe, I got on shorts and a

997
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: T shirt. I got a T shirt and shorts on.

998
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: Something tells me keep this stuff on. I ain't that night,

999
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: ain't nothing pop off? Oh Joe, you ever been sleep?

1000
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: You feel like you can't move, but you could hear everything? Right,

1001
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: I felt I felt like I was dreaming, but I

1002
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: could hear people arguing. Oh, and I'm like it, but

1003
00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: I can't move.

1004
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you know you been like you're trying to

1005
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: move talking about right.

1006
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: After a while the door flowed the hinges. So you

1007
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: got to understand, O Joe, your boy, Your boy about

1008
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: to be twenty two. So I'm paid. Hey, you know

1009
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Oh Joe, So you're going. I got

1010
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: to do the A So I'm ready, I'm prime. Okay,

1011
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: I may God contact uh huh, oh bro, it wouldn't

1012
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: have been good, O Joe.

1013
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: What happened?

1014
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: He had a couple of bodies on the resume, so

1015
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: he recognized who I was. I recognized who he was. Yeah,

1016
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: so he's like sharp. I said, yeah, man, he said, man,

1017
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: I love man. Hey, congratulations going to.

1018
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: The Broncos and Roy.

1019
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: He said, man, you's Savannah State boy. I used to

1020
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 2: tell my home I used to tell the homies. I said,

1021
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: that was sharp. He going to the NFL. My shoes

1022
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 2: all have my socks on everything. Check this out, o Joe.

1023
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: I said, God, if you get me out of this situation,

1024
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't get back in another one. Yeah. Three years later,

1025
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: I go back to Savannah State home coming. I called

1026
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: it and I said, what's going on? I said, you know,

1027
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: no a different one. Different one. No, no, different one.

1028
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: She said, check this out with Joe. I said, you

1029
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: know your boy and she said, come on over, come on.

1030
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 2: I said, okay, I ride with my homeboy. Bucket. I said, bucket,

1031
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: turn around, because we had just left campus. I said,

1032
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: turn this thing around, Bucket. He turned around. We pull up,

1033
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: so I said, homeboy, you know watch Hoban said, hey,

1034
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: go home, go back to homeboy.

1035
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1036
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: I was all right. So he get Jet magazine. So

1037
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, I got to rollie on. I got my

1038
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: change eighty four, so you know, you know, she's like,

1039
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: I feel the good. I feed the good. O yoe,

1040
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: I feed a good. So by two, Okay, I got

1041
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 2: my I got my shirt. I took my shirt off.

1042
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 2: I see the door handle turning. I'm like, hey, what

1043
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: the what the hell? My homeboy thinking dude came in

1044
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: that thing with the ak and with the a K. Now,

1045
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: mind you, she done undressed. I just got my shorts on,

1046
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 2: so I done, just came up out my T shirt

1047
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: and took with jewel rob my ROLEI my chain. So

1048
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: he looked at me. I look at him. I say,

1049
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 2: this is your people, my man. He's like, yeah, so okay,

1050
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: my bad. Guess what he asked me. He said, my man,

1051
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: you shocked. I said, yeah, I thought so. So I

1052
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: look out in the hallway. His homeboy got the shop

1053
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: sawed off. My homeboy sitting on the couch because I

1054
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: know my homeboy would alerted me, but he got the sawed.

1055
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: Off on him and okay, okay, So I.

1056
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: Get my stuff and say, my bad, bro, I said,

1057
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 2: I ain't no, I say, you know me, I don't

1058
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: know who you are, my bad. I'm at fault. I'm wrong.

1059
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: So I get my necklace. I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah.

1060
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 2: So I leave and I'm thinking, like, oh ship, I said, homeboy,

1061
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: I left my roller in there, he said, man. I said, man,

1062
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: you better turn this more for a rod. I'm going

1063
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: to get my joint. You got it? Did I? Boy?

1064
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: That was fifty bands? Why did I? Hey? I said,

1065
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: my man, my roller on the dresser. He said, hey,

1066
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: you go to man. I got it.

1067
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: I said again, So that's why it's been thirty years.

1068
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 5: Huh.

1069
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't.

1070
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: I can't see nothing.

1071
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: For the longest time. Yeah. I would not go to

1072
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: a female's house with that thing.

1073
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 5: On the table right right, right, right right.

1074
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, just let me just look.

1075
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: I feel comfortable in my own home when we're gonna

1076
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: meet in a neutral place. I said, but I can't.

1077
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: I said, I can't risk it anymore. I say, because

1078
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna because they're gonna recognize who I am, and

1079
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: they gonna think, because who I am, I think I

1080
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 2: can run rough shot over them. I say, it ain't

1081
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: worth it. Oh shoe, I say, but you got me

1082
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: out of that one. Yeah, and my eyes at another

1083
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: ain't closed my eyes at another female's house that was

1084
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: there the dude walked in on us in ninety three.

1085
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: That's it.

1086
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 4: So thirty years and listen, I'm never I don't. I

1087
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 4: don't have a story of that magnitude of story that great.

1088
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 4: I never had that problem. I rarely really ever go

1089
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 4: to people's house, especially spending the night, because I got

1090
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: to be it, but I got to be able to

1091
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 4: play with my video game.

1092
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: So I'm not staying at your house. But God, but

1093
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: that was a good story, boy, And the funny the funny.

1094
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 4: The funny thing about that story is that happened to

1095
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 4: a lot of dudes, but the outcome isn't as gracious

1096
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 4: as yours was.

1097
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: George was, I believe had he not known who I was.

1098
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: Now I do I ate another story I was at

1099
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: I had an sl in ninety two and I was

1100
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: in Sabamah. So you know you have an old pay phone, right,

1101
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: and you know back then they ain't have no no GPS.

1102
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: You could punch it in and full it up. So

1103
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: so she told me an address and I drove. I said, damn,

1104
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: So I'm not even thinking. I mean, I'm on thirty

1105
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: seventh in bull If you're from Savannah. You know exactly

1106
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. And I'm pulling the park lot

1107
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: Pashaw had a car wash. So I pull up there

1108
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: and the dude run up on me. He said, you

1109
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: know what it is? I said, my man, everything I

1110
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: got in Hey, my wallets in the car. Everything I

1111
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: got is in the car, he said, sharp. I said, yeah,

1112
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: I'm a man. Hey, he said, He said, Bro, you

1113
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 2: in the league. You better get a cell phone. Get

1114
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: out of here, right. You ain't got to tell me

1115
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: no more. Hey, but I still made that calling with

1116
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: the short I did do that. Hey, Hey, bro, I

1117
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: got to friend of your call.

1118
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: Bro, you you ain't pass that up.

1119
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: Don't don't do man.

1120
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 4: Listen what I got have some good stories, man, but

1121
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 4: nothing nothing, nothing like that.

1122
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: I told you, well you were you tripping? Oh Joe?

1123
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 2: You just all they do is just tell me they

1124
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: have somebody. And I'll have never stepped for man. You know,

1125
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: would women? I don't.

1126
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't think women never tell the truth.

1127
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 4: And listen. And you just got to the league too.

1128
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 4: You think they Fina ruined that opportunity in that chat.

1129
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: She ruined, please ruin it? I think I think you

1130
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: later ruin my chances. I thank you later, but but

1131
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: my story from time, I'm gonna share a few stories

1132
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: with you because I got a bunch of them over

1133
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: my fifty five years.

1134
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 4: I got I got some good ones. I just just

1135
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 4: not not like that though.

1136
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lebron and a D. Lebron says, he's the face

1137
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: of the franchise. You look at all these retired numbers

1138
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: that's around this facility. All the grades have come here,

1139
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: and a D is one of them. Is a D

1140
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: the face of the Lakers. Listen.

1141
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: I love I love Anthony Davis.

1142
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 4: I love being able to do what he's done in

1143
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 4: this entirety since he's been in the league. But to

1144
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 4: say he's one of the all time grades, he is

1145
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 4: one of the all time grapes. But say he's one

1146
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: of the all time grades in the Lakers organization, he.

1147
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: Hasn't been enough. Yeah, he hasn't been healthy enough for

1148
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: me consistently to be considered one of the all time

1149
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: grades at that organization, one of the best big men

1150
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: to ever play the game, one of the most skilled

1151
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: big men to ever to play the game.

1152
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: Big men, yeah, they known for that.

1153
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 4: But all I need is for AD to be able

1154
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 4: to play a full season. Not maybe not every game,

1155
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 4: but not missed.

1156
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 2: So fifty five, give me sixty five games.

1157
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: That's it. Just give me sixty's I'm gonna say sixty.

1158
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: Give me, give me sixty games. Because when he's on

1159
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: the court, man, a motherfucker's hell. He is hell.

1160
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 4: He is hell to deal with on the defensive side,

1161
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 4: on the defense end, and the office end. But again,

1162
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 4: I respect what Lebron is doing. He's the goat for reason.

1163
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: Then he will always be. He will always be the

1164
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 4: face of that team, regardless of him, big up in

1165
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 4: AD always.

1166
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: Hey, the difference is AD talking about the face of

1167
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: the team. Lebron's the face of the NBA. Yeah, it's

1168
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: like Jared Jones is the face of the Cowboys. Patrick

1169
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: Mahoons is the face of the NFL. That's two different

1170
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: that's a whole different thing here. Yeah, I get what

1171
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: Lebron's trying to do. Lebron is for the longest saying

1172
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: a d I need you to pick up the man,

1173
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: I need you to carry this thing. Now, Bro, I

1174
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: mean your nineteen, I mean your twenty. Now I'm headed

1175
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: into year twenty one. You are you're supposed to be

1176
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 2: in your prime. You're supposed to take this thing now

1177
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: and run I can get if ad were to take

1178
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: this thing and run with it like I think what

1179
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: I think he can. Lebron can easily get another two years.

1180
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: He can play. He'll be thirty nine in December. He

1181
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: can play till he's probably forty one. He can get

1182
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: another two years in easy, go ahead mine. He still

1183
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: loves it. He's still shocked. Mentally. What broke me, O

1184
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: Joe was meetings. I hate meetings. I had heard to

1185
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: Jeff Flanker drive. I had heard fifty bing go pick,

1186
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: I heard staff protection. When you hear that, there was

1187
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: nothing new to me. And so now my fun was

1188
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: being on the bus or being you know, been a

1189
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: locker room laughing and joking and the practice feel stretching man,

1190
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: the meeting man. If Mike would have told me a

1191
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: eighty four, don't even worry about meetings, I don't know.

1192
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: It had been hard for me to tell to take

1193
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: that job at CBS. But when CBS told me and

1194
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: they gonna get they were gonna give me more money

1195
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: than what I was making, and I wouldn't have to

1196
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: take no hits. See you might see, I'm just being outed.

1197
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook organized a team INNI camp and lost make

1198
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: us a couple of weeks ago. At dinner, you had

1199
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: to practice and then you had to go to the

1200
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: team dinner. At the team dinner, Russ handed each player

1201
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: a new new iPhone fifteen Pro Max. What's the best

1202
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: gift you've ever given your teammates?

1203
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 4: Oh, man, the best gift I ever given my teammates. Man,

1204
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 4: I don't rethink. It's too many people. There's too many

1205
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: people on the owner, on the football team.

1206
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's too many. And the boy

1207
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: I think you don't.

1208
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: Know what the quarterbacks, they'll get them like try line. Yeah, yeah,

1209
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: I did that. Ninety three my first All Pro team,

1210
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: I got a ten thousand dollars bonus if if I made,

1211
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: if I made if I made All Pro, and if

1212
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: I made the Pro Bowl. So I took my money.

1213
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: I took my money, went to the rolex, and another

1214
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: three thousand out of.

1215
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 5: My procket, and I brought into the rolex.

1216
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: I went. I brought all the offensive lineman Roll Lexus

1217
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: had him in grave.

1218
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 5: Thanks.

1219
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, listen, man, sugar ain't sugar ain't brought nobody.

1220
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 5: I ain't buy nobody.

1221
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 4: No watches that man just obviously you you you, you

1222
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 4: know me somewhat somewhat a little bit on how carry

1223
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 4: myself when it comes to my finances. The most of

1224
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 4: the thing, the most I've done is actually with the receivers,

1225
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 4: is maybe taking everybody out to dinner.

1226
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 5: That's what mass your question.

1227
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: Did you take it? Did you take your offensive coordinator

1228
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: or your position coach to the Pro Bowl when you went.

1229
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: No, No, coach Brad coach Brad No, coach Brad No.

1230
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: I took all my every year, every year I made

1231
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. So even though they were no longer

1232
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: coach me Less decoed with the first coach that I

1233
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: took that I that when I made it, I took

1234
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: him and his wife. Then Brian Perranni came after Less,

1235
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: after away Philip Staff left. So I go to the

1236
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl, I bring VP his right less and his

1237
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: wife Chris, and then I go to Baltimore. I make

1238
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. I take Wade Harmon, my position, coach,

1239
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: his wife, BP, his wife who's still at the Broncos.

1240
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: Let's steckel. Okay, I bring them out there, fly him out,

1241
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: put them up at the hotel and we go do

1242
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: a dinner. I'm just you know what, I just want

1243
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: people to know. I'm never I've never been naive enough

1244
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: to think that I got to where I am by myself, right,

1245
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: So I wanted them to know that I appreciate what

1246
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 2: you had done for me. Less Steckel was He's probably

1247
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: probably first to second Coach Hall, who was my high

1248
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: school coach. He drove the bus from my mom. He

1249
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: coached all my uncles, coach my aunts, and he coached

1250
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: me and my brother. So he's probably he's my favorite coach,

1251
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: but less Steckel's probably a close second because the relationship

1252
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: that he and I have to this day. He calls me.

1253
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: He calls me every one of my kids birthday. Less

1254
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: hadn't coached me in thirty years. He calls me every

1255
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 2: birthday for each of my kids. Now he calls me sweetheart.

1256
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: That was him, sweetheart, he always every time, sweetheart, Sweetheart.

1257
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: I just want him to know. I wanted BP to know.

1258
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: I wanted Wado to know. Bro. These pro bos, these

1259
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: all pro y'all helped this. Yeah, invited them all. Now

1260
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: some of them came Less came Less stuck. Okay, I

1261
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 2: mentioned less in my speech. BP came, Wado didn't get

1262
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: to come because he was coaching at the time. Invited

1263
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 2: them all to the hall, all my because I appreciate it.

1264
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 2: I appreciate everything that I was, everything that I had

1265
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: accomplished up until that point, as far as as far

1266
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: as you know, sports wise, especially football, those guys had

1267
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: a large part to do with it, and I wanted

1268
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: that was my way of saying thank you.

1269
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what I did obviously when I made

1270
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 4: the Pro Bowls and the fact that it was in Hawaii.

1271
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 4: I think the players to day they will never understand

1272
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 4: what it's like to make the Pro Bowl and what

1273
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 4: a treat it was to make the Pro Bowl back then,

1274
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 4: because it was an actual treat. It was an actual treat.

1275
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 4: In the trip, Yeah, family, obviously I took. I took

1276
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 4: my kids, my family. I took my coach, my coach

1277
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 4: who was my trainer doing throughout the off season, because

1278
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 4: he's responsible for who I was, He's responsible for the

1279
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 4: confidence was, he's responsible for the bravado and really making

1280
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 4: me into the player I was.

1281
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 5: I took him all the time.

1282
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: Obviously, my grandma and my mom and my homeboys out

1283
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 4: the hood my homeboys out the hood who I grew

1284
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 4: up with. I wanted them to have that experience and

1285
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 4: go go on that journey with me. So I took them,

1286
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 4: you know, maybe one or two times. Other than that,

1287
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 4: it was always, you know, my kids and my grandma,

1288
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 4: my mama.

1289
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: My sister. She went the first two times. My brother

1290
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: made it in eighty nine and ninety and she was done.

1291
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 2: She didn't want to go anymore. Yeah, she's like, it's

1292
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: too far to fly. She was excited, she'd be excited

1293
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: for two days and then she's just basically ready to

1294
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: go home, ready to go home. So she's worried about

1295
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: she's worried about my grandmother because we got to have

1296
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: one of my aunts to come in and see with

1297
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 2: my grandmother. And you got to realize, Okay, California to

1298
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 2: Georgia is a three hour time difference, and there's another

1299
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 2: two hours, so it's five hours. So you're thinking one thing,

1300
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 2: and Grant is already in the bed and so about that.

1301
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: And by the time you want to call this in

1302
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 2: the morning, you going to bed and Granted just getting up.

1303
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 2: So now after that point, so I never got a

1304
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: chance to bring up my mom didn't really didn't really

1305
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: care to go. So that was that it was just

1306
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: basically me and my me and my coaches. I'll take

1307
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 2: the coaches and you know, a couple of times and

1308
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: had a couple of teammates, which was which was cool.

1309
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 2: And then uh, in two thousand and one, one of

1310
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: my last year in Baltimore, to have Ray and Woody

1311
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: to go, Uh, that was funny. But it was always

1312
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: fun to get an opportunity to see the guys that

1313
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: you compete against and right around and eat burgers and

1314
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: and and you know, all of the my ties and

1315
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 2: the Blue Hawaiians and the drinks and and tell the stories.

1316
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: And you get an opportunity to see coach Belichick. You

1317
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: see a Peyton Manning let their hair down. Now all

1318
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's no more coach speak now, all

1319
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's just like they're having a great time.

1320
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: Hey Sharpie, you want something? But he and now we're

1321
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: trying to Hey man, what's your room number? Oh I'm

1322
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: such and such. Oh now you got everything.

1323
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: You never give you your room number.

1324
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: Never charge on me by four thousand dollars because I'm

1325
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 2: charging every charging the room six on nine. What you

1326
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: want you want burger fries, You want to drink? Yeah,

1327
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: your wife and kids need anything? Oh, yeah, we get you.

1328
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 2: I remember that. I remember them days. Oh they got

1329
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: your boy, they got your boy, they got you, they

1330
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 2: got me.

1331
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 5: Yeah they what do you.

1332
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: Call them about? You know, I went over the back there.

1333
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: You know it was the Buffalo with heavy Thurman Thomas,

1334
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 2: bruisy biscuits. Cornelia's been itt Jim Jim Kelly. With Jim Kelly,

1335
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, Jim, you're not a rookie. Jim buying everybody.

1336
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: Jim Kelly if the great. He might have been the

1337
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 2: greatest Pro Bowl teammate because he's there for everything. I

1338
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: don't know what he was with the quarterback, but they

1339
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: just benevolent.

1340
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 5: They you want.

1341
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: To drink, brodrink. But okay, so so you know, so

1342
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: you don't feel like you I'm turning you down. Sure,

1343
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: I'll take one. But it's great And that's the best

1344
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: part about it. That's the thing that you know, uh,

1345
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: going to the Pro Bowl meeting the guys, getting an

1346
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 2: opportunity to sit around and talk and meet their family. Oh,

1347
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: this is my mom, this is my dad, and take

1348
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: the pictures with their brothers and sisters and uh that

1349
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: was that was a great experience.

1350
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: For me seeing people out of that element.

1351
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 5: Yeah element.

1352
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and actually I think the first time actually seeing

1353
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 4: Ray Lewis well, me and Ray knew each other for years.

1354
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 4: But seeing Peyton, yes, Peyton Manning being Okay, this is

1355
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 4: not the same Peyton I saw throughout the season, This

1356
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 4: isn't the same Peyton that does the interviews.

1357
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: Seeing Peyton Manning be Peyton Manning and not having to

1358
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: be politically correct.

1359
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 4: Yes, answer your questions with a mic in front of

1360
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 4: his face was one of the most enjoyable moments, Like,

1361
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 4: oh shit.

1362
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 5: These dudes are normal.

1363
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: They know, they just they just like they just like me,

1364
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: you know in a sense.

1365
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 4: And the fact that they always have to mask it

1366
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 4: once you playing football and once you're putting the helmet

1367
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 4: on like that has to be that has to be

1368
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 4: draining to actually change like a comedian and be someone

1369
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 4: we just can't be you.

1370
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm trying to think. I think my last

1371
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:48,959
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl, I think Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Steve

1372
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: McNair rest his soul might have been my quarterback.

1373
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 5: Wait you was there?

1374
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: Wait?

1375
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: Wait?

1376
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 5: Year was that?

1377
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: The one? Okay? Year? Baltimore. Okay, my last year, My

1378
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: last year in Baltimore. Oh, I had some great ones.

1379
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 2: I mean I played with uh Marino, l Way, Kelly,

1380
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: Warren Moon. Oh, Joe Montana was my quarterback one year,

1381
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 2: one year, I think it was Danny, Joe Montana and Moon.

1382
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: I had l Way, Kelly and Marino. Go dang, hey, hey,

1383
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 2: you boy, hey. I went on to try to get

1384
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: me one catch. That's all I wanted to do. Get

1385
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 2: me one catch. Let my grandma see me catch a

1386
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: pass and get out again out of that thing. Yeah.

1387
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh oh, oh Joe. Let me tell you what happened.

1388
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: One year in ninety six, Jacksonville had beat us. So

1389
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 2: ninety Jacksonville had beat us in the playoffs, and so

1390
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 2: it was me and Coats or the tight ends Ben Coats. Yeah,

1391
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 2: now you know it's only two tight ends and we're

1392
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: running double tight can't running two tight ends? Now we got?

1393
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 2: We got? I said, bro, why was it? Come on, man,

1394
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 2: now mind you I ain't got no contract. I'm a

1395
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 2: free agent, right man. And I say, I said, looking, man,

1396
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 2: y'all need to stop running this type double type stuff.

1397
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play the first being, gonna play the second,

1398
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it. The third brand braingment home right.

1399
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 2: They kept running double type. I went and got me

1400
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: two bags ice and put on my knees. I said, Ben,

1401
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: you got it the rest of the way. Come on, sharp,

1402
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: don't do I tell you. Mm hmm sharp done.

1403
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 5: Hey, don't play with that money. I ain't get the

1404
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 5: money yet.

1405
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 2: No, oh no, mm hmmmm hm.

1406
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: Oh man.

1407
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Dermandy and Dawson to tell you,

1408
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 2: he pulled his hamstring at the Pro Bowl and he

1409
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: was never the same.

1410
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 5: Wait, he was going full speed.

1411
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 2: Trying to kise somebody on an interception. I think he

1412
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: tried to catch time. Yeah, look it up, Dermody, Dawson, yeap,

1413
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 2: oh Man. But you but you have to understand Ojo.

1414
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 2: Back then, guys, would I mean you know back then

1415
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: to win the winning prize was ten thousand. The losers

1416
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 2: got five thousand, right, So by the time you brought

1417
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 2: everybody over there, that five thousand was gone. That's ten

1418
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 2: thousand was gone.

1419
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 5: That's gone. That's gone.

1420
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: Now come come third come fourth quarter? Oh, BRUCEI core test.

1421
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: They're coming.

1422
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: They them been bull driving for three quarter not of

1423
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 2: money on the line.

1424
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's how that's how we were, that's how

1425
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 4: he was to We were the same way.

1426
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it was. And you know in practice, you know, guys,

1427
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: you know, g time, t time, rest your soul. Junior said, man,

1428
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 2: I want to play tight end. Okay, hey, he playing tighter.

1429
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 2: He playing tight end. I'm playing livebacker. So called the

1430
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 2: practice off because we had all the defensive players wanted

1431
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 2: to play the position. He's like, we're not getting anything done.

1432
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 2: He called, hey, take it in. Okay, we booked them

1433
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 2: out of there, but those were some great times.

1434
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 5: Your good day, Good days.

1435
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 2: Tomorrow. You gotta get up early tomorrow. I gotta get

1436
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 2: up even earlier and do first take with Steven A

1437
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: and the guys. So we'll be back Thursday for nightcap.

1438
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm your favorite UNC Shannon Shark, He's your favorite number

1439
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: eighty five Chad o Yo Fenko Johnson call me if.

1440
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 5: You need me.

1441
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: Nightcap o Joe, we're out