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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Ren and I

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Speaker 1: do the intro. Hello, Happy Monday. We are scrubbing in

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Speaker 1: And it is not Beck at Tilly, it is Tanya,

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Speaker 1: it is Mark and it is eastn Becca is out

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Speaker 1: sick today. So um, it started out that she was

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Speaker 1: and it was just like, I'm not feeling good, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I just don't want to get you sick before you

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Speaker 1: go on vacation. I was like, that's so nice, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. And then it quickly went downhill from

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Speaker 1: there and she's just feeling like poop so she couldn't

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Speaker 1: Stuff's going around. Man, My wife was sick all last week.

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Speaker 1: She tested negative for COVID over and over again, but man,

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Speaker 1: she was down, Like there's a really vicious flu going

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Speaker 1: It's all kinds of stuff out there. Because I think,

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Speaker 1: is there is there something to our immune systems being

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Speaker 1: we're gonna catch everything. Don't know there's got to be,

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Speaker 1: but let me tell you, I'm just trying to not

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Speaker 1: get any of it because your girl is on a

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Speaker 1: plane going on vacation very soon. So I'm like crossing

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Speaker 1: my teas and dotting my eyes from just just just

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Speaker 1: not catch anything from anybody. But I'm just like taking

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Speaker 1: counter Yeah, I'm taking counter attack and just trying to

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Speaker 1: drink a lot of water. But yeah, they're good. That's

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Speaker 1: all you can do. Stuff's going around. Um, but there

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Speaker 1: is something that I didn't want to talk about, but

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it without Becca because

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Speaker 1: she's involved in the story. But over the weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so this is a deep well it'll be a deep

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Speaker 1: tease because next week I'm gonna be gone, um, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, because I'll be on vacation. So it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in two weeks. We're gonna do the Ali Grant

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Speaker 1: story because we were at Joe Joe's um her uh

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Speaker 1: swimwear event. It was like the promote her swim We're

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Speaker 1: and she was like, what's going on? And we turned

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Speaker 1: and we were like and so everybody wants to know

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Speaker 1: the story behind that, um, And it's a very funny story,

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Speaker 1: and it goes back to like when I first met Ali,

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Speaker 1: And so I want to share the story because but

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Speaker 1: some weirdness between you and Ali at some point our

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Speaker 1: whole relationship, but it wasn't a beef, but like maybe

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Speaker 1: I want to Becca's best friends, but we're not close

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Ship's Creek. I'm on episode five. I haven't

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Speaker 1: so I don't. I don't remember laughing a lot. I

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Speaker 1: And I gotta say Stranger Things is excellent. I know

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, but that's pretty much it, you know,

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Speaker 1: doing all that all the laundry, getting all my bug spray.

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Speaker 1: You have special doggy bug spray. It's for you, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's for me because I'm like, I'm getting eaten alive

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Speaker 1: like two or three years ago that. Yeah, you showed

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Speaker 1: but so much you'd like you wouldn't believe and dreading

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Speaker 1: her name is Ashley Green Corey because she's married, but

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Speaker 1: she started this company called Hummingway and it's all about

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Speaker 1: talk about all things period. Okay. So I am really

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Speaker 1: for having me. I'm really excited because, um, so I'm

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Speaker 1: makes people really uncomfortable a lot and I don't care

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Speaker 1: of the scarbging listeners have messaged me about you, saying

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Speaker 1: that you would be a great guest because of your um,

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Speaker 1: because of Humming Away, the company that you co founded,

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Speaker 1: And I also I am a fan of Twilight, and

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Speaker 1: so it's just like all You're just kind of a

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Speaker 1: I think we should start period talk. Yeah, let's dive

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Speaker 1: basically like you're running a marathon. You know, your body

425
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: is going through a lot of stuff, and when you

426
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: run a marathon, you train for it, you go run,

427
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, you like, um, you get yourself ready by

428
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: going a couple miles one day and then adding another

429
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 1: mile or two and keep going, going, going, and then

430
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: but when women give birth, they just people just expect

431
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: you just to like give birth and then that's it,

432
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: and you don't prepare for the marathon. And so I

433
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: would like that, like totally shifted my mind in terms

434
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: of like the public floor, physical therapy and doing all

435
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: these things, because it's true, like your body is going

436
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: through something super traumatic, so why would you not be

437
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: like training for it up until you do. Yeah, I've

438
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: heard the same thing, and my doctors say that she's

439
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: like a lot of my patients who tend to work

440
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: out up until they give birth have generally easier births

441
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: because you are like your training for a marathon. It's crazy.

442
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: And then yeah, it's the I I just read this

443
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: book called Bring Up Baby, and it's about like the

444
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: French system and like how well taken care of their

445
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: mothers are versus what we have here, And I'm like,

446
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous that it is kind of They're like,

447
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, we want everyone women are supposed to have babies.

448
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: But then like you get pregnant and you have a child,

449
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: and they're like, cool, you're on your own, have fun

450
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: with that. And it's and it is like I go

451
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: to a place called Origin Way do I go, oh amazing?

452
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: Oh do you have I go to Dr Anna Um? No,

453
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: I do not go but um But actually Kareem, the

454
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: founder of it Is, is one of our advisors for hemmingway,

455
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: and so that's how I was. She was like, you

456
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: should definitely get in here. But she kind of introduced

457
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: that idea to me where she was like, you know,

458
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: every other part of your body when there's trauma, you

459
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: get pt and your body goes through this huge traumatic

460
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: event and you're just left with nothing. And I was like,

461
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 1: oh wow, let me get ahead of that. So honestly,

462
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: it's that's so funny that you said that because I'm

463
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: like the biggest advocate for public floor physical therapy because

464
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: I had no idea what it was, and it totally

465
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I did like all the things.

466
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: So when I was getting all these chronic q t

467
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: I s, I started doing public floor physical therapy. I

468
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: changed my laundry detergent to like clean and fresh or

469
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: whatever or like you know, chemical free. I stopped wearing thongs.

470
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: And there was one other thing that I did. Uh.

471
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: So it's like hard to say which one of them actually,

472
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: Like the menstrual cup. I switched to the menstal cup.

473
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: So I did all those things like a matter like

474
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: four weeks um, but game changing, like life changing truly. Yeah. Um, yeah,

475
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: that's kind of funny. I feel like that happens a

476
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: lot with people in their periods. You tie a lot

477
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: of these things where like you try everything at once

478
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: and then you're like, what actually worked? Who knows? But

479
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: as long as it worked, great, And that's the other

480
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: thing too, right, I have to help people. I'm like, listen,

481
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: you have to go on your own journey, because what works.

482
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: We're so complex, you know, and so like what works

483
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: for one person may not work for another. Like, my

484
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: symptoms were so heavily tied to my diet, and so

485
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: my changing a lot of my diet took out a

486
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: ton of my symptoms. And it's so interesting because it's like,

487
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, people are like go on all of these

488
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,479
Speaker 1: pills to fix it, and like, literally I just had

489
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: to do the work and change my diet. Now I

490
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: don't really have the menstrual cycle symptoms that I did.

491
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean I have none right now because I'm pregnant.

492
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: But before that, it's so wild. It's so there's so

493
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 1: much to like diet just and so I'm just happy

494
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: that you started humming away And I didn't know. So

495
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: you guys are uh partners with Origin? No, so when

496
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: she the woman who founded Origin or one of she's

497
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: a co founder, but um Karee, one of the founders,

498
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: is an advisor for Humming Away. I love that we're

499
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: all about and we have a wonderful medical work because

500
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: the same you mentioned earlier that like, you know, you're

501
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: not an expert, a lot of people come to you,

502
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: but it is we were kind of like, listen, living,

503
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: I know our experience and we're definitely here to change

504
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: the path for people, and in one introduced So what

505
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: we do is introduced non toxic solutions from Mextra psychosymptoms

506
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: and an educational platform. UM. But there is it's such

507
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: a delicate subject that we are like, we really want

508
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: to have a board of medical advisors so that they

509
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: can come back with the correct answers UM, and we're

510
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, we'll help when we can.

511
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: But then the main thing was to kind of provide

512
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: this service for people. That's so awesome. I just love you,

513
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: like I of you too. I feel like we're on

514
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: such a similar path. Well, you know, it's just crazy

515
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: because I don't like I get inundated with messages from

516
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: women that have said, like you know, they gave birth

517
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: and now they can't laugh without peeing and they never

518
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: even realized that there was like a solution or away,

519
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: and like it just makes me sad that, Like I

520
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: just feel like it's not talked about enough. People just

521
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: think they have to live with these Like I couldn't

522
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: imagine not being able to laugh and pee my pants

523
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: every time I laugh, Like that sounds miserable. I was

524
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: like my thing, I was like, I have I have

525
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: to pe every five seconds anyways. So when I got pregnant,

526
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, it's all going to happen.

527
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: But it is. And and and that I think is

528
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: even more people are, uh, they're not as likely to

529
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: come forward and talk about those things. Like I'm really

530
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: lucky that I'm surrounded by a couple of girlfriends who

531
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, i'd pe every time I laugh. And

532
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, that's a thing, you know, but most

533
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: people don't want to speak on that, but it's it's

534
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: something that's still many then who have given birth go through.

535
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll follow up with you after I give birth,

536
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: and I'll let you know. I know, I'm curious. I'm

537
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: so curious, but you know, I do have to give

538
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: it like I was, because you know, I was going

539
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: and just taking all these pills and it was actually

540
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: my boyfriend. He was like, this is not good, Like

541
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: let's think about this, like let's slow down and like

542
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: let's figure out a solution. And if it wasn't for

543
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: him like kind of slowing me down because I think

544
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: also pre pandemic, you're in this like headspace of just

545
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: like Okay, this pill will fix this, Like I'll take that,

546
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: and like you know what I mean, Like it was

547
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: just kind of go go, go, go go, Like I

548
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: can't slow down to like actually like figure out what's

549
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: going on. And like that was really eye opening for me.

550
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: God for your boyfriend. I it's so funny. I went

551
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: through so my husband UM and my co founder's mom

552
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: is a home a path and so whenever you know,

553
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: we got together, it like completely shifted my viewpoint because

554
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: I was the same like I was just raised on

555
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: like western medicine. Doctor knows best and you take whatever

556
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: they give you. UM. And then my eyes were completely

557
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: opened and I was just like, oh no, this is

558
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: you know why am I? And I was on birth control,

559
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: but I was on a couple of other medications, and

560
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, I made a decision that I was going

561
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: to try and figure out what was triggering me, versus

562
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: taking a pill to just fix it, which is hard

563
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: because in the moment, especially if we're all I think,

564
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: we have a lot more in our plates than we should. Um,

565
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: we want to fix the problem, you know, immediately, and

566
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: usually a pill is the way to do that. But

567
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: I will say I think doing the work and being

568
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: able to be free of those things and really were

569
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all about kind of I think balancing yourself. Yeah,

570
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: it's a you know, it's a it's a beautiful feeling.

571
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: Just to back up, how long have you been married?

572
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: Almost four years? And how did you meet your husband?

573
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: So we met he uh ended up moving in with

574
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: one of the guys that I was. So I was

575
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: a part of this like best friend crew, and there

576
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: was like five dudes in me um, and he ended

577
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: up moving in with one of them and becoming a

578
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: part of that best friend crew. And so we just,

579
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, not organically became homies. Um. For like five

580
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: years we were just friends. And and then one year

581
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: I end up buying When I bought my house, I

582
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: like I was the whole thing. I was like two

583
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: years it took me to get this house. Um, I

584
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: was like everyone come over, and so it was he

585
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: came over and it was the first time we were

586
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: not in a group of people. I think was what

587
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: really did it for me. And we talked for like

588
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: three hours, and when he left to go to work,

589
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I want to date you, okay,

590
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: And then after that just literally stopped. He was a

591
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: bartender at the time, and so I like looked like

592
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: a complete lush but just like showed up at as

593
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: a work a lot and sometimes with close out with him.

594
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: And he finally after like two or three weeks of

595
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: those got the picture. Oh so you kind of like

596
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: made the first move. Yeah, it was. It was one

597
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: of those things because I'm like, it's such a weird

598
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: thing like that. I was like, how can you be

599
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: helping with someone for like five years and really truly

600
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: not realize that this is the love of your life? Um,

601
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 1: And and it did. It was just like literally like

602
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: something flipped and I was just like, oh, okay. Then

603
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: I can't imagine because I was never like a guy's girl,

604
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: Like I never had close guy friends. So for me,

605
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: it was either like I want to date you and

606
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: I want to make out with you, or I don't

607
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: really I want to be around not interested. Yeah, I

608
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: grew up I was My brother is a year and

609
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: a half older than me, and we grew up on

610
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: like dirt roads and you know, the horses and my

611
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: pies and all the things. So I think that for me,

612
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: I get out with guys quite well. Wait, that's so

613
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: so you guys have been married for four years together

614
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: for how long? Um we have been married for four

615
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: We were to go there for four or five before that,

616
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: like nine years, and it's just bla And we were

617
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: friends for like five years before that. So I'm just happy. Yeah,

618
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 1: it's it's really annoying to probably so many people around

619
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: us where we're like, oh my god, we are grossly

620
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: in love and it's like we wake up every day

621
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: and every day I'm like, you're my best friend, and

622
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: he's like you're my best friend. And it's I you know,

623
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: I think every relationship takes work. I will say, like,

624
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: there's definitely moments, but yeah, it's pretty awesome. I think

625
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: we have like my parents are the same way where

626
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: they're like kind of gross and annoying and love and

627
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: his parents are the same way. So there was definitely

628
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: like a bar that was there for both of us.

629
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: That's I love that I love the gross and in

630
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: love because I'm I'm the same way. And also i

631
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: was like, I spent so many years like dating and

632
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: just dating like it was rough. It was I had

633
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: a rough go at it. So now I'm just like

634
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate him so much more because I'm just like

635
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: I was waiting patiently for you and You're real and

636
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: it is good. It can be just as good as

637
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: you imagined. Yeah, And do you ever think, like I

638
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: think back now, I'm like, huh, yeah, none of those

639
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: other guys would ever. And I'm friends with a lot

640
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: of my ex is still, but like I just start now,

641
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: yeah friendly, like we don't hang out, but like yeah, yeah, yeah,

642
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: I know what we're like. If one of them were

643
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: to have a kid, I would congratulate them, you know

644
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: type thing. But um, but I look at the relationships

645
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: I had and I'm just like, what, like, never ever

646
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 1: would that have worked long term? I don't know what

647
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking, but I think who knows? How? Like

648
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think obviously there's a higher you know,

649
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: God's looking out, He's gotten got it going on. But

650
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: it's there's a plan, there's a plance to like I think.

651
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: I also I have to say, like I guess to

652
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: give my exes some credit. Like I also look back

653
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: at myself in my twenties and was like, like, I'm

654
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: so glad that me and Paul didn't date because I was,

655
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, wild, I was the same. Yeah, and also

656
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: kind of just like I think when you look back

657
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: in your twenties, and I'm not saying generally and not

658
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: saying everybody in their twenties doesn't know, but I didn't

659
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: really know myself then, you know. So I feel like

660
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: when I went through my first like major heartbreak, it

661
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: was so devastating because I was like my life was

662
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: him and everything that he liked to do, and I

663
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: was just like, what does Tanya want to do? What

664
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: do I like to do? For fun? Like where are

665
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: my friends? You know? Like I didn't really have a

666
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: sense of self, and so that was huge because I

667
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: was like, if I would have married that guy, I

668
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: would have been I don't even know where I would

669
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: be today, honestly I would for yeah, yeah, I don't

670
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: even I don't I don't even want to know. Oh yeah, no,

671
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: I look at that too, where I think there's something

672
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: to be. I don't know. I'm thirty five now. And

673
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: my mom said to me a while ago if she

674
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: was like, your thirties and your forties will be such

675
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: a wonderful time because you'll know who you are, but

676
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: you'll still be young, and you know, you kind of

677
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: had this zest for life. But it's so true where

678
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't I mean, I don't feel old,

679
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: but I definitely feel like I understand who I am

680
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: and I'm comfortable with who I am for like the

681
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: first time, because in your twenties you're just you know,

682
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: they're meant. I think twenties are meant for mistakes and

683
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: you're meant to figure out who you are. And it's

684
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: so true, Like I'm when I was on birth control too,

685
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: and I got off birth control, my body just had

686
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: this like visceral reaction to it. It was just like

687
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: very jarring to see. And so after that, I was like,

688
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: I not going back on birth control. It's just like

689
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: not gonna happen for me. So that's why I was

690
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: also really important to figure out my cycles and or

691
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: to figure out like my phases, because now I'm like,

692
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: I know when I'm momulating and I'm just like extra careful. Yeah. No,

693
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: that's another crazy thing, right, just figuring out just like

694
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: I think it is. When you really look at it,

695
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: you're like, it's not that easy to get pregnant, like

696
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, if you really like track your cycle and

697
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, you know I used I used Natural Cycles

698
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: UM and did like the basil body temperature testing. Um,

699
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: what's the basi basil body So it's basically like there.

700
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: So I like Natural Cycles because they came. It comes

701
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: with like a thermometer and every morning, UM, like before

702
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: you do anything, you wake up and you take your temperature,

703
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: and your temperature shifts slightly whenever you're ovulating. And so

704
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: if you do it corriculate and you're consistent your UM,

705
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: the app will tell you like, oh, your your body

706
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: temperature is shifted, you're likely ovulating. And then I kind

707
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: of partnered that, like I had the strips this is

708
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: when I was trying not to get in. Then I

709
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: had just stepped on top of that and was like,

710
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like you could see and track when I

711
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: was ovulating. UM. But I'm like, yeah, it's really you

712
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: don't have to be amber is controlled and not get pregnant.

713
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: I know, and I think that's such a misconception, especially

714
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: when you're younger. You think like that's the only way. Yeah,

715
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: well that's why I went on it where I was

716
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: like sixteen years old and had like, that's the other

717
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: thing to you. Like a lot of people again, I'm like,

718
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: if you want to get a birth control, fine, but

719
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: understand what it's doing to your body, right um before

720
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: you do. And I had no idea. I wasn't told

721
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: about any of the side effects, and I just got

722
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: on at a sixteen before my body even had a

723
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: chance to regulate my period. And so then coming off

724
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: of it sixteen years later when I was thirty two,

725
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, my body was like what is going on?

726
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: And so of course I had like hormonal acne and

727
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: crazy mood swings and debilitating cramps, and it was just

728
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: like my body was was rebelling against the fact that

729
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: like all of these symptoms had been there, but I

730
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: had just kind of been asking them for so long.

731
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: And it was a horrible time. I know, it's like

732
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: it's very crazy. It's so crazy to think back. Yeah,

733
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: but then when you why did you did you get

734
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: off of it? Because you were experiencing the U T

735
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: I s or did you just decide? No? So I

736
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: got off of it because I was not in a

737
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: relationship anymore. I was going through a breakup and so

738
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: and I wasn't like into like I'm not really into

739
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: on uh unattached sex. Like I was like, I'm not

740
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: gonna be like sleeping around. So I just kind of

741
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: got off it to give my body a break. And

742
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: then and I realized what it did to my body,

743
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I can't go back on that. Yeah,

744
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: like it's gonna that's it's a hard pass for me. Yeah,

745
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: but I feel like when I started taking it, it

746
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: wasn't really I don't want to say an option, but

747
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: it's just like that's what it was, you know, like

748
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: you're you start having sex, you get on birth control.

749
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: I was just like that's what it was. Yeah for sure.

750
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: Um okay, well I could literally talk to you for

751
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: like a hundred years about that, but I do want

752
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: to pivot into your podcast because I love the concept.

753
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: So it's called the Twilight Effect and you guys are

754
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: basically you dissect each Twilight movie. You take a piece

755
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: by piece. Yep, so we will rewatch movie. My co

756
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: host mel and I and then we'll do a couple

757
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: of episodes where we just break down, like kind of

758
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: the play by play, UM with all of our thoughts

759
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: and concerns about it, And then we do a couple

760
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: episodes UM with someone we try and kind of tailor

761
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: it so that the person that we're interviewing has a

762
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: heavy airpart in that movie. UM. So we'll do a

763
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: couple of guests interviews and a couple that's just Sololy

764
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: and mal Um. But we've had some really fun poppins

765
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: for people for the rewatches as well, just like people

766
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: that do Twilight parodies and anyone who's kind of within

767
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: the Twilight realm um or that Twilight has had an

768
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: effect on we kind of bring onto the show. Was

769
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: that time like crazy for you? Yeah? I mean that's

770
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: what's been really fun about the podcast is that it's

771
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: so like when we were all in it, it is

772
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: it was this wild machine and like vacuum fish bowl

773
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: thing that we were a part of, UM and all

774
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: of us were super tight lipped and didn't really talk,

775
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: like we were kind of media trained and like you know,

776
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: there was only so much information you could give away

777
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: about the film, and we were really tight lipped. About

778
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: our our personal lives and so getting to do this

779
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: now fifteen years later and really explore what we were

780
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: going through has been really cool because it was like

781
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: when you think back on it, and I'm like, oh, yeah,

782
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: that was insane, and like, there are not many people

783
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: on this planet who have gone through the same thing

784
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: that we've gone through um or been able to be

785
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: a part of something that I think has had such

786
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: a profound impact on people's life. Like, it's really cool

787
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: to still be able to talk. We bring a lot

788
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: of fans on to talk about their experiences and it's

789
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: it's beautiful to see like the positive impact it's had

790
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: on people's lives. Yeah, for sure. But I remember, um,

791
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: so I was I'm like friends with Taylor Lawner, and

792
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: I remember when I first met him. I can't remember

793
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: what I think, this is maybe like five or six

794
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: years ago, but um there was like a security guard

795
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: was with them, and I was like just talking about

796
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: security stuff and I didn't, you know, you don't the

797
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: the the safety behind it all is is quite like

798
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: I didn't. Obviously I experienced it, and I loved Twilight

799
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: in that moment also, but I don't think I even

800
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: understood the how grand it was until like almost recently.

801
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's I think that's one of the things

802
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: that people don't realize a lot is that when you're

803
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: part of a franchise like this, it is like it's

804
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: a wonderful thing, but your life's changed drastically and there

805
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: are things that you don't think you have to worry about,

806
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: like security measures that it does. It kind of thresh

807
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: you into this spotlight. And also we were in our twenties.

808
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: We're in our twenties that time when we're figuring ourselves out,

809
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: and to do that in the public eye was also,

810
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, not always the easiest thing to navigate. I

811
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: can't I cannot imagine. My mom was like, I remember

812
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: coming out of the club one time getting photographedro My

813
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: mom was like, is that really what you would have

814
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: been known for? And I was like damn, okay, no, right,

815
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: but like how do you but like you can't do anything,

816
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: Like what do you do? You just like live in

817
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: a shell? Yeah, it was. It was definitely about well

818
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: I made sure where it was like at least if

819
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: you're coming out of clubs, don't come out drunk. But

820
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: it is like it's an unfair kind of thing where

821
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: you are in your twenties and and anything you do

822
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: is spoken about. And at the time, I think press

823
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: was a lot. Yeah, it was not a nice kind

824
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: of place to be, Like, um, things have certainly shifted

825
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: now and so yeah, I think you had to kind

826
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 1: of walk on egg shows a little bit. Was your

827
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: did Was your husband a fan of the of Twilight

828
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: or was he like I don't know that he's even

829
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: seen it. Um, I feel like he's seen one of them.

830
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: He definitely no, Um, he can appreciate it, but no,

831
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: it's not really like we've been rewatching them, um at

832
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: my house and so like popping in the room and

833
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: see some things and like kind of understands what's going on.

834
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: But it's funny like he doesn't. He wasn't really heavily

835
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: affected by it, even like I remember my dad and

836
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: my brother at a certain point when I invited them

837
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: to the premiers being like that's okay, you can invide,

838
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: you can invite someone else, and I was like, okay,

839
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: Like you know, it just wasn't there. Their thing which

840
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: I can kind of appreciate and like created some normalis

841
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: seen in my life. Yeah, is that what does your

842
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: what does your husband do? Um, he is an entrepreneur

843
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: at heart, so he has he's like not not in

844
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: the industry. He's and he does, he directs, and he

845
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: is and he rights. But he's not an actor, okay,

846
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: which is nice. It's nice because he gets like he

847
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: can appreciate what I do. But is I don't know,

848
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: doing another actor. I think comes with its own sleute

849
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: of difficulties. I can't just the schedules alone. I feel

850
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: like it's caused for a lot of conflict and relationships

851
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: with like actors and actors because I'm like, you get you.

852
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: Your life isn't your own when you're like on a

853
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: set right Like you're like you have this twelve hour

854
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: schedule and you're just filming and you have to maybe

855
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: move somewhere and live somewhere else, and it just feels

856
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: not really conducive to oh yeah, partnership. I remember going

857
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: through that in the midst of excuse me, in the

858
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: midst of Twilight, um, where like I would date someone

859
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: who also was in the industry in some form or not,

860
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, it makes it really tough because neither

861
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: of you is going to give up your job. Um,

862
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm like the people who do make it work,

863
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: bravo to them, because I'm like, it is nice having

864
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: like Paul will hell come. He won't come out and

865
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: stay for a long time, but like we don't, you know,

866
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: the two week role. We try and stick by and

867
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: and it's nice to be able to kind of you know,

868
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: he can pick up at a certain point and come

869
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: visit me on set. Yeah, which is nice. My mom

870
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: still doesn't understand though, Like she my mom's like, so

871
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: do you have I was maybe going to go film

872
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: this movie before giving birth and my mom is going

873
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: to come out with me UM, just to make sure that.

874
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: I was like okay, and she's like, do you have

875
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: your SCRTU that? Do you have your flights yet? Like

876
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: I need to know. When I was like, Mom, I

877
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: don't know until they tell me. She still doesn't where.

878
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: She's like, well, what are they going to tell you?

879
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm like I don't know, right, Like you just have

880
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: to do what you're told, Like you are got on

881
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: a plane and you go, yeah, it's so wild. Did

882
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: you I don't know if you saw did you see

883
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: this quote by Jamie Chung and she was talking about

884
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: um her decision to have a surrogate, and she basically

885
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: said I don't want to quote her, but it was

886
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: something along the lines of like, um, she had worked

887
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: so hard in this industry and she didn't want She's like,

888
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: I didn't wanna miss out on opportunities because I was pregnant.

889
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: And I was just like, you know what, And she

890
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of heat for it, but I was like,

891
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: I'm so proud and happy that somebody's saying that out loud,

892
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of women and I know

893
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: a lot of women that feel that way, you know,

894
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: like they're not necessarily don't have a Sarah Gate, but

895
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 1: they get there. They get a lot of anxiety when

896
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: they're pregnant, and then they go on maternity leave because

897
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: they feel like they're missing out on so much and

898
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: that their career is gonna like stop, and you know,

899
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: you get off the treadmill for a second and you

900
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: feel like you're out of it. And I was like,

901
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: nobody talks about this stuff, and I'm glad that she's

902
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: just like saying it out loud because we're all having

903
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: these conversations behind closed doors when all of us are

904
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: feeling it. Yeah, and she's I love Jamie Um. She's

905
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: actually a friend of mine, and I commend her for

906
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: saying that because I think it's a difficult thing to say,

907
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: any difficult to vision to make me honest about, and

908
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: something I completely understand because I'm I, you know, no

909
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: matter how much I wanted to have this baby, still

910
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: experience those things because it is tough. Especially you know,

911
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: when you're a man and your wife is pregnant, you

912
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: can still work throughout it. But yeah, as a the

913
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: second I knew that, the second that I announced publicly

914
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: that I was pregnant, that would be it until after

915
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: I give birth and after I'm ready to go back

916
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: to set. And then it is kind of that game

917
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: of like reintroducing yourself and being like, Hi, I'm still

918
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: the same person I was before, and I'm ready to

919
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: go back to set. And it's definitely something like that

920
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: seeps into my mind every once in a while even now,

921
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: where I'm just like that that moment of me being

922
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: ready to go back to work and maybe having to

923
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: wait an additional six months because you know, I'm not

924
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: at the like on everyone's tongue anymore. It's it sucks.

925
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: It's such a weird, like I have I have never

926
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: had a baby, but I try and put myself in

927
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: people's shoes because I was just talking to one of

928
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: my girlfriends and she was like, it's such a like

929
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: it's such a trip in your mind, you know. She's like,

930
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: you're watching other people do your show and like do

931
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: your thing and get close to the people that you

932
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: work with every day, and it's just like it's this

933
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: weird but you're so happy to be at home with

934
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: your baby and and and you know what I mean,

935
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: Like it's this weird dichotomy. Yeah, and just like you know,

936
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: like why doesn't anybody talk about this stuff? You know,

937
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: like nobody but everybody feels it. Oh yeah, I'll come

938
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: back on again post baby. I'll tell you all the

939
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: things that is happening, because I'm like, it's it's so true.

940
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: We're like, you obviously are grateful for the time that

941
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: you get because some people don't get to have maternity

942
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: and they don't get to spend the time with their children,

943
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: and so that's the other side of it, right, Um.

944
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: But but yeah, when you're sitting there going, oh, but

945
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: like I do like already because it's been a couple

946
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: of months, I'm like I miss being on set. I

947
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: love being pregnant, and this is you know, one a

948
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: wonderful time that like I already miss it. Do you

949
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: love it pregnant? I I don't think I love it

950
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: as much as some people. Where Like some people just

951
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: like are like I could have eighteen kids. I'm like, whoa, um,

952
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: but I have been very very lucky, and it's like

953
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: it's a very cool like the baby is kicking and

954
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: so like my husband being able to feel that and

955
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: like that, like those connections are being made right now.

956
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: So it's a really special time. So I think like

957
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: this part, I'm like, oh yeah, the first the first trimester,

958
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: I didn't really feel like I was just like I

959
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: feel kind of hungover like every day, like it wasn't

960
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: I didn't, Thank God, I was very lucky didn't have

961
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: like severe nausea or like anything debilitating, but I couldn't

962
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: tell anyone, And so it was just like this time

963
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: where I was like okay, and then you get into

964
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: the second trimester and I was like, oh, this is

965
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: pretty dope. I can I can get like You're like

966
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: I can handle this? Yeah, wow, Okay, Well, I I

967
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: know you're a busy gal, so I don't want to

968
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: take up any more of your time, but I just

969
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: want to say thank you so much for coming on

970
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: the podcast. You're amazing and I'm just grateful to have you.

971
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, so thank you for having me.

972
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: This has been awesome, and please come back after you

973
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: We'll come back and talk post baby. How my coffee

974
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: floor is doing. I don't even get me tried to

975
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: have so many questions about birth. Are you doing a

976
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: um all natural birth? Yeah, I mean that's the plane.

977
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: So I think I've come to terms with the fact

978
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: that everyone says, like, you make a plan and then

979
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: the baby's like just kidding, um, but um, but yeah,

980
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: I would like it to be as natural as possible.

981
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: It's so funny I've decided that to mind you, I

982
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: have no idea what I'm gonna have a baby, but

983
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, I'm a planner too. I support yeah,

984
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: like I'm going to do it all natural birth. Uh.

985
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: And then that's what everybody says, like, yeah, okay, wait

986
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: till you wait till it comes, and I'm like, we'll see. Yeah.

987
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: That's always been like my mom and his mom bothted

988
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: natural births, and so like I think it's just like

989
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: a that's what I have known. Um, but I also

990
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: have some friends that are like the past, like immediately

991
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: got the epidore role and everything, very happy they made

992
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: that decision. So I know, yeah, but I think I

993
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna I'm gonna be able to push it out.

994
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: But I'm like, we were made to do this. That's

995
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: what I keep going back to you is, I'm just like,

996
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: we have been doing this forever and our bodies like

997
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of That's one thing I've enjoyed about pregnancy

998
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: is like reading on all of the changes that happen

999
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: and how your body is literally made for this and

1000
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: it grows a separate organ out of nowhere to keep

1001
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: your baby alive. Is you know, It's it's mind blowing.

1002
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of so far, I am oddly calm

1003
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: about the the idea of having to actually burn the baby. Yeah. Well,

1004
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you all my good, good vibes, good

1005
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: juju at least, good everything. So thank you so much,

1006
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, have a great rest of your week,

1007
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: and thanks for scrubbing in. Thank you, see you later. Hi,