1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our two on this Thursday, Dan and the 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Dan et Stan Patrick Show come on in Stay a while, 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter on Loan from the Mother's Ship, on the 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: Latest with Aaron Rodgers. Sometimes stories get so big and 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: complicated you almost lose sight of where it started. The 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers Green Bay Packers dramas taken on a life 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: of its own. And we have a lot of reporting, 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: a lot of columns, a lot of sources, rumors, innuendo, 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: but into Aaron Rodgers speaks publicly, We're not getting any 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: closer to the truth or any kind of finality here. 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: And sometimes these stories get too big, and I'm starting 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: to get the feeling that we're going to be tired 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: of this by maybe the end of the week. If 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: you've and I've done this so long that I know 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: how these things start. It's like, okay, starting to hear something, 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: starting to hear something, it explodes and then after a 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: while we're like, okay, can you guys resolve this? Lie? 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: Like where what are we doing? Rogers is the MVP. 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: The Packers are a good team. He's interesting, charismatic enough 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: to be a guest host on Jeopardy, got a lot 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: of opportunities away from the field. He's engaged not with 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: the Packers, he's engaged to Jaleen Woodley. But you know, 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: he's one of the great quarterbacks with one of the 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: premier franchises in the league. Feels like he's been betrayed. 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: They drafted Jordan Love in the first round, throwing a 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: steady stream of bread five quotes, and you got a 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: perfect NFL offseason story. And also the timing of stories. 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: It's an offseason after the draft. You're not really diving 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: into baseball, not diving into the postseason with the NBA. 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: Yet hockey. Hockey came to the forefront because of what 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: happened last night at the Garden Golf. You know, we 33 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: got a major coming up. But for the most part, 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: you got this gray area here. And this is a story, 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: and it has to do with Aaron Rodgers and could 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: he potentially change teams and what's that mean for the Packers. 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Adam Schefter about that, because Chefti on 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: his podcast said, this leak, the information he got on 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: draft Day did not come from Aaron Rodgers camp and 40 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: didn't come from the Packers. All right, so he's telling 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: us who didn't leak it? But who did? And he's 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: not going to tell me that. But why was it leaked? 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: And was it strategic in being leaked on draft day 44 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: draft night because it had the potential to take over 45 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: the draft? Was this a retribution? Hey, you embarrassed me 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: on Draft night, I'm going to embarrass you on Draft nine. 47 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: Even though it didn't come from Aaron Rodgers camp. By 48 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: the way, there was this story yesterday that Aaron I 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: guess in meetings would refer to Brian Goodakoon's too, is 50 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: the GM of the Packers as Jerry Krauss. Now there's 51 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: two ways to look at this, because Jerry Krauss helped 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: bill the Bulls Dynasty, but he's also blamed for dismantling 53 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: the Bulls Dynasty. And they were going to make one 54 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: more run and Jerry Krouse decided that he was going 55 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: to dismantled, dismantled the potential for another title. Aaron Rodgers 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: has also sort of compared himself to Michael Jordan here, 57 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: and maybe not even sort of. You're not Michael Jordan. 58 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: This ain't the last dance. You don't have six championships. 59 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: You got one, and Jerry Krous did help build this team. 60 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: He had to tell Michael Jordan, no, we're not bringing 61 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: in the players you want. Jerry Krause did his job 62 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: and they won six titles, but he was there at 63 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: the end when they were going to make one more 64 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: run and they decided that they weren't going to they 65 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: were gonna say goodbye, Say goodbye to Jordan. Let everybody 66 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: kind of go Phil Jackson. You know, Aaron Rodgers is 67 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: not Michael Jordan and great player got one title, So 68 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: you're not like, what are you breaking up? You're breaking 69 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: up a team that can't get past the NFC title game? 70 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: What are you one in four in NFC title games? 71 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: That's not Jordan's esque. And I think the Packers have 72 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: done a pretty good job and building a team that 73 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: does get to the NFC title game. You know, if 74 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: they won last year, if they won the Super Bowl 75 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: this past year, does everything go away? Does Aaron Rodgers 76 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: have any issues here? That's how I'd be curious about. 77 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: Like Michael Jordan got to the point where he couldn't 78 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: say anything about Jerry Krause that was negative because they 79 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: were winning, you know, Jerry, Jerry made some controversial decisions. 80 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: You know, when they brought in Dennis Rodman didn't know 81 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: what they were going to get. How could you keep 82 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: him on board? You draft Olden Polonies, you trade him 83 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: on draft night for Scottie Pippen. Who's Scottie Pippen. Some 84 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: of the other players you brought in, they did a 85 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: good job. Tony ku coach, they brought him in as well. 86 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Say made good decisions. It's just the last decision was 87 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: they were not going to have this team go for 88 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: another championship. Setan, you're giving me the stink eye. Well, 89 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: it feels like a little bit of a stretch to 90 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: me that we're going from. Like Aaron Rodgers allegedly referring 91 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: to the GM as Jerry Krause in text messages to 92 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is comparing himself to Michael Jordan, which feels 93 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: like a little it taking a couple of leaps. He's 94 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: comparing the situation George Allegedly he's compared. But nobody said, hey, no, 95 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: I never said that, Like Rodgers hasn't said anything, but he, 96 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: according to a source or sources, he did say this. 97 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: And you're comparing yourself to the Bulls in the Jordan situation, Like, 98 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: how else can I read that? It's a negative with 99 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: Jerry Krauss, because if you if you were going to 100 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: make a joke about a crappy GM in sports, Jerry 101 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: Krauts is probably right up at the tire like a 102 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: divisive GM. That and the players don't like He's probably 103 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: the guy that you go to first. Yeah, but they 104 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: didn't like him because he sociably, you know, socially was 105 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: awkward and you know, Jordan made fun of him because 106 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: he always had crumbs from lunch on his you know, 107 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: his coat or his shirt. But he still did a 108 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: great job. How many gms in the history of the 109 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: NBA can say they did what Jerry Krause did. Not many? 110 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: Not many. Well, you got Jerry West, you got Red Arbach, 111 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: Like not many. It's pretty impressive there. So it feels 112 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers is saying, hey, you're going to dismantle 113 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: this team, just like Jerry Krause did with the Chicago Bulls. 114 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: That's that was my takeaway from him called you know 115 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: Brian Goodacoon's Jerry Krauss, Yes, we love them. I remember 116 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: Jerry Krauss was dying to start that Tyson Chandler Eddie 117 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: Curry team in Chicago, like he wanted to move forward. 118 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: I think that's where the analogy works. Whether I agree 119 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: with see, we don't know if it's true, but there 120 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: seems to be an analogy where the Packers were so 121 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: focused on the future just at that position, right. But 122 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: but they look in fairness to the front office with 123 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: the Packers, they looked at Aaron Rodgers and thought, Okay, 124 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: maybe they'll start starting. He's starting to slide, and for him, 125 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: he had down years. He threw twenty five touchdowns in 126 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: twenty six touchdowns and I think they were saying, Okay, 127 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: where are we going? What's our future here? Can we 128 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: draft somebody and keep them on the bench for three years? 129 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: And the timing if Aaron Rodgers didn't win the MVP 130 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers through twenty six touchdowns last year, then are 131 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: we at this point? But they were on the precipice 132 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: of going to the Super Bowl. But Aaron Rodgers has 133 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: not performed well in these title games. Yes, well, what 134 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: would you bet these guys are guys with mortgages and 135 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: kids going to college. What would you bet your family's 136 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: financial future on Aaron Rodgers or Jordan Love. Well, obviously 137 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: it would be Aaron Rodger and this topic shouldn't even 138 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: be a topic of trading him there, and I don't 139 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: think it is for them, because I think these guys think, 140 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: if we decided to trade Aaron Rodgers, he goes anywhere 141 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: else and has better success, and we whiff on Jordan Love, 142 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: we are all out of work. Well, if you whiff 143 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: on Jordan Love, no matter when he gets that opportunity, 144 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: people are gonna say, and you jeopardize this even if 145 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers stays, but you got to give him a 146 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: contract extension. I'd rather let Jordan Loves sit on the 147 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: bench until Aaron Rodgers chooses to retire and then when 148 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: that fifth year option comes up to just say we're 149 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: not picking it up, and that mistake won't seem so bad. 150 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: It'll be like a footnote. I'd move on from Aaron Rodgers. 151 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: But that's because I don't think he's going to be happy. 152 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: It's like you know, when you'll go to a marriage 153 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: counselor and all right, hey, everything's good in the marriage counselor, 154 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: and then you get outside and then you go and 155 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: you're like in real life, and you're going to wait, 156 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: this isn't going well. It just feels like we're trying. 157 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: We don't know what to do. Now you want us 158 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: to fire a gm you're making fun of the gm is. 159 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: You know the other players are going to look at 160 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: this and go, well, why Aaron doesn't respect him? Why 161 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: should we respect him? Like? I don't know, it's just 162 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: a it's a it's an uncomfortable feeling there. I don't 163 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: know if Jordan Love can play. That's my big question here. 164 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: And you will roll the dice because you might have 165 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: to bring in a quarterback who plays this year. If 166 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: you trade Aaron Rodgers, you're not going to trade him 167 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: to the NFC. You trade him to Denver. You're not 168 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: winning a suit. They're not winning a Super Bowl anytime 169 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: soon with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, mccluv. What if the Jets 170 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: had called with the number two picks? Do you think 171 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: there was any internal discussion? Why would he want to 172 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: go to the Jets? Well, they called for Russell Wilson, 173 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 1: did they? I mean, I know, I don't probably, but 174 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: he didn't want to go there. But Rogers has doesn't 175 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: have to no trade. Maybe New York I don't know, 176 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: some show in New York. But no, but he's going 177 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: to a team he wants to win, like everybody. I 178 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: think people look at this and go, this is the 179 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: turning point, the watershed moment. It's NFL empowerment. Well, the 180 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: only NFL empowerment was Tom Brady. But Brady was free 181 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: to go, and the Patriots didn't want to keep him. 182 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: And then okay, Roddy and Gronk and Antonio Brown, that's 183 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: not exactly empowerment, but they want a super Bowl. There. 184 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: Brady was smart enough to go. I can go play 185 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: for a coach who likes to throw it will let 186 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: me be, you know, have fun. And I got a 187 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: great defense, and I can bring in Gronk and Antonio Brown. 188 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: Sure this sounds like a lot of fun. Ye, I mean, 189 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: the Bucks hadn't won anything in years and years before Brady. 190 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: So maybe Aaron Rodgers thinks he can turn around a team. 191 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: I know that Jets is probably a little extreme. Well, 192 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean this, you had Mike Evans, you had a defense, right, 193 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: Chris odd One, I mean, come on, yeah, it was 194 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: just but it is amazing that they hadn't been to 195 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs in fifteen years. Or something crazy. Yeah, well, 196 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: I think Brady saw that defense and he thought, you know, 197 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: I don't have to outscore anybody. But my question was 198 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: more from the Packers. Was there any call that could 199 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: have been made with a draft pick that would have 200 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: would have convinced them day you know what if the 201 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: number one in called and said, okay, we'll trade Aaron 202 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: Rodgers or were they just not even entertaining that. Yeah, 203 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: but you have to factor in that Aaron Rodgers is 204 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: going to make it difficult if the Packers say, hey, 205 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: we're trading you to the Jets, Well I can just say, hey, 206 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to sign with him, like I don't 207 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: want to go, I'm gonna retire. Do you think that 208 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: they would have? Did they at least discussed Trey landswer 209 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: Justin Fields and said, well you don't think they even 210 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: opened that door. No, Well, if you have your quarterback, 211 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: then why are you then going to take a quarterback? 212 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand that because I don't think 213 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: Jordan Love is well well that I don't know. Then 214 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: they should have released him. Yeah, they should have traded 215 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: him or done something. If you if you really want 216 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: to curry favor with Rodgers than you could have done that. 217 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: I think you're so right on that. Yes, but whatever 218 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: they thought of him when he came out of college, 219 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: the Packers brass should be exactly the same. He doesn't 220 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: practice with the first team they I was watching the 221 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: Green Bay cover Zick. He doesn't do much in practice. 222 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: He runs scout team stuff. There's no real test. He 223 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: hasn't played one minute in one game. He's the only 224 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: guy who's drafted in the first round last year who 225 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: has not played NFL football yet. He's not played one 226 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: minute in one game and there was no preseason last year. 227 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: He didn't even take a kneel down snap at a 228 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: blow up when he was third string. Yeah, yeah, all right. 229 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Chefty about this because it's fascinating. But 230 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: I want to hear Aaron Rodgers. I give you want 231 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: to move on, you want to be traded, then just 232 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: say it, because it just feels and there's gonna be 233 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: more of this. I'm hearing sources close to and diredy 234 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: know it. I heard from somebody yesterday and they were 235 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: telling me something. I go, lady, can I report this? No, 236 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm just hearing this. I said, why can't report that, 237 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: but it had to do with Aaron Rodgers, and I thought, 238 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, you still have to be fair to the 239 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: situation here. You know, did he tell free agents? Hey, 240 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be here. All I know is 241 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: that report came out. Nobody refuted that. Nobody's refuted anything. 242 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: It feels like nobody said. No. He never called him, 243 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: Jerry Krout, No, he never told free agents. He like, so, 244 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: I don't know crazy Brett and Wisconsin. Hey Brett, what's 245 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: on your mind? How much? How's it going? Dan? But hey, 246 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: so I just wanted to call with some information that 247 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: I have and I let Bill Michaels and some others 248 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: know about it. So, my brother lives in Green Bay 249 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: and he works for a prominent business up there that 250 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: deals with the packers all the time. And after they 251 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: get their initial contracts or signing bonuses, stuff like that, 252 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: they go to this business to get all of their 253 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: tech type stuff. Apple TV's all of that. Anyway, The 254 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: business owner is actually a longtime board member for the packers. 255 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: And after all the initial news broke class Thursday before 256 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: the draft Friday, they had a team meeting where this 257 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: owner basically put to rest and said disregard all of this. 258 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: They had a meeting with the board, and everything is 259 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: being completely blown out of proportion. And all he's asking 260 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: is to have a guarantee that he's going to be 261 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: the Packers quarterback past twenty twenty one. Okay, well Brett 262 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: our packer insider, all right, anything else to add to that, Brett? Oh, 263 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: that's it. That was just a quick one and done 264 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: from Brett. So it's being blown out of proportion. Well, 265 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: that's what happens with these things. Something leaks on draft 266 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: night and now all of a sudden, you got sources 267 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: close to Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, yeah, Seed. This story has 268 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: essentially been everything I'm hearing and allegedlyis that's been the 269 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: entire thing. There hasn't been one single piece of actual 270 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: hard news or confirmation of whether it's the message text 271 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: messages that are being sent, or the demands that are 272 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: being made or whatever. Well, Aaron Rodgers, if if this 273 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: is being blown out of proportion, should get out in 274 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: front of it, because he's the one that can put 275 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: it all to arrest, not the packers, because the packers 276 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: can say, hey, we want Aaron back. If Aaron Rodgers 277 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: comes out and says, I never called Brian Gudacoon's Jerry Krause. Hey, 278 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: I never said I wanted to be traded. Hey, I 279 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: understand it's a business. Jordan Love you drafted him. He's 280 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: not going to beat me out like Aaron Rodgers could 281 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: put it. Put this arrest. I still want to be 282 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback here. Yeah, Polly, I just put sports on 283 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: our one of our TVs here and the bottom line scroll, 284 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: says Breton Wisconsin reporting it all as well in the 285 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: order lane proportion already made the bottom line. Yeah, people 286 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: might think that's Brett far if it's just Brett in Wisconsin. Yes, 287 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: me club, I like Brett's report because when you call 288 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: him with a report, he gave some extraneous details that 289 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: like established like they had all my Apple gear and 290 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: my story made no sense, had nothing to do with 291 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: what he was getting at. But like I'm like, I 292 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: believe this guy, like he's got a legitimate job. I 293 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: don't know what that had to do anybody. Well, sometimes 294 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: when you tell a story, people will tell the story 295 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: and they'll tell you things that have nothing to do 296 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: with what is really the meat of the story. It's 297 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: a shot you just took a shot Brett from the 298 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: eau Claire best Buy. Yeah, but I'm not gonna say 299 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: where my business. But all you have to do is 300 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: say that I know somebody who's a board member and 301 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: they said this is being blown out of proportion, which, 302 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: by the way, is very likely that it all is 303 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: completely being blown out of proportion. It is, but you 304 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: know they gathered and they took a vote, like what 305 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: they take a vote on? Is this being blown out 306 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: of proportion? All in favors? Say I I yes, Bo's 307 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: heading Kenosha's online for he wants to confirm the Brett story. Okay, yes, Ton. 308 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: What's more convincing I'm hearing or the way I understand, 309 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: well I'm hearing it is always one that I go, wait, 310 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: who are you hearing this from? It comes down to 311 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: are you reporting it? That's what I want to know 312 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: because there are times when I get information and be like, 313 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, hey, I'm hearing it's you gotta are you 314 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: reporting it? Just the magnitude of this, I think you 315 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: got to be respectful to how this is all being reported, 316 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: what is being said, how it's being said, who's saying it? Yes? See? 317 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: And if Adam Schefter is saying it's not coming from 318 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or the Packers, then why are we believing 319 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: any of it? Because it's if then it's coming from 320 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: a third party or somebody outside of either of those things, 321 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: then who the hell knows? Yes, Ton, that's a very 322 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: valid point by Seed. If those are the two parties involved, 323 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: So that's someone in the Broncos special team coach through 324 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: it out there, like, oh, what has it got to 325 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: do with anything? If it's not one of those two, 326 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: it could be fairly meaningless anything. Aybody can say anything. 327 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Take a breath. What if Fritzi runs out of air 328 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: in a sentence, I know what, I gotta work on 329 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: my cardio. I'm even talking too fast to add out 330 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: of shape. Those two things combine, that's when the sound comes. 331 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: I love how you you? You take one breath and 332 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna get your thought out in that one. Dee, 333 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: my cheets going purple, and I know I got to 334 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: kind of wrap up my phone. He's Kirk Cousins, take 335 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: a deep breath. Yes, mcclub back to Brett for a second. 336 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: He also threw in, I called another sports show when 337 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: you name the local host, Now, is that a good technique. 338 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: If you're gonna break news on the Dan Patrick Show, 339 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: it's like a real estate agent. He's like, I put it. 340 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: I just to be clear. I gave it to Glazer, 341 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: and I gave it to and I'm gonna give it 342 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: to you guys. I think that he realized that, hey, 343 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: this is local, but I want to be known nationally, Like, guy, 344 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: this is my first When somebody says, hey, when did 345 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: it all begin when Brett from Wisconsin became an insider, Well, 346 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: it was that day. It was May sixth, and I 347 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: called in the Dan Patrick Show and I gave him 348 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: some details about best Buy and buying some apple stuff 349 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: and somebody on the board. Yes, but only after he 350 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: gave it to Jim Burtoner first. Yeah, I know that's 351 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: where he realized he made a mistake. Yes, I wonder 352 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: if this is how all these guys start. What what 353 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: did Adam Schefter do his first year out of college? 354 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: Was he a local reporter at a local paper? And 355 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: how does he go from there to ESPN five million followers? 356 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: That's I love to know his first breaking story. So 357 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: what you're saying is Breton, Wisconsin could be the next 358 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter footsteps he's here. Okay, yes, McLean, I can 359 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: tell you some big name radio hosts who started out 360 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: as callers. Yeah I know, you know. Yeah, Joe and 361 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: Ingo famously a fa ad I think he was a caller, 362 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. Yeah, all right, we'll take a break. 363 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter will join us, and uh, we'll see if 364 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: he can confirm or deny Breton wiscontt yesterday. It's your 365 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: hearing that, Adam schifters. It's your understanding, but that's our 366 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: way I understand it here. Um, I can't report that 367 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: Adam Scheff is joining you. And I'm the only source 368 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: you know. When I send you the notes say who's 369 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: coming on the show, you don't really get two sources. 370 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: Yes see, Well, I happen to know the guy that 371 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: we get our bagels from, who is also an intern 372 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: here at the show, who has confirmed that Adam Schefter 373 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: is joining us next. So any reports that he's not 374 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: completely being overblown? Okay, that makes me feel better, cause 375 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: I always will have that little bit of doubt. What 376 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: if they don't show up twenty two after the hour. 377 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm hearing Adam Schefter will join us on the program 378 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: after this. 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Well, it was 405 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: just about a week ago, a couple hours from now, 406 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter came on Sports Center and said basically that 407 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wanted out of Green Bay. Walk me through that. 408 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: Did you get a phone call or text? You know? Then? 409 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: The funny part about it is that I've heard people say, oh, 410 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wanted that out before the draft, And I 411 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: could assure you Aaron Rodgers did not want that out 412 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: before the draft. I've had people say the Green Bay 413 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Packers planted that. It was a very pro Packer story. Yeah, 414 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: I could assure you the Greenbay Packers didn't plant that. 415 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: When people guess at where stories come from, more often 416 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: than not, they're usually wrong, and in this case they're wrong. 417 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: This was an accumulation all during the off season of 418 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: just listening to people talk and observing. And if we 419 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: go back to the NFC Championship game that the Greenmy 420 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: Packers lost at home, did we not hear Aaron Rodgers 421 00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: after that game talk about his level of on happiness, 422 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: if you will uncertainty for the future. Just go back 423 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: and listen to that press conference, and it sounds almost 424 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: like he's saying goodbye to Green Bay. And so you're 425 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: antenna is up, And I'm just telling you, throughout the 426 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: course of your season, there was rarely a week that 427 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: went by where I didn't hear something about Aaron Rodgers. 428 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: And on draft day there's a report that morning from 429 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: Paul Allen out in Minneapolis that the forty nine ers 430 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: made a draft offer, which they didn't make an offer. 431 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: They never made an offer. And the other people are 432 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: saying that the forty nine ers called. And I said, 433 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: how long till it gets out that Aaron Rodgers wants that? 434 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: Is it next week? Is it next when he doesn't 435 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: show to the OTAs, is it next month? When isn't 436 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: it's going to come out? What does it matter if 437 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: it comes out now or next week or next month? 438 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: And so so you chose to break the news on 439 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: draft day. That is actually that is absolutely accurate. Correct, 440 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: But it wasn't something that you got information about. No, 441 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, No, there was nothing that morning that 442 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: came in said to me, Yeah, he wants out. You 443 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: should report this like it was going on all off season. 444 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: You just keep hearing it, and there was more and 445 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: more talk, and now they're starting to be on Rogers talking. 446 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, this isn't gonna wait much longer. 447 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: Let's just go. And it just happened to be drafted 448 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: because I wondered when you said it didn't come from Rogers, 449 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: didn't come from the Packers, and it's being characterized differently. 450 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: I was wondering, Okay, you're not gonna tell me your source. 451 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: You know what was the motive behind that? Yeah, yeah, 452 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: there's not a source. No, No, I know, but I 453 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: know that now. But we're just finding this out right now. 454 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: This I said this, I said, you're on the NFL, 455 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: I said, I said it, you know, I mean, I 456 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: don't know. People want to believe whatever they want to believe. 457 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: It was just an accumulation of information throughout the course 458 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: the entire off season. Did the Rams make an offer? 459 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: The Rams inquired in January. And again that's an example. 460 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: I knew when they were calling and they were quickly rebuffed, 461 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: like the conversation went nowhere. But they checked in early 462 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: in January, and they were not the only team that 463 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: checked in. So, by the way, Dan, why are these 464 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: teams checking in because he's available or they're hearing is available? 465 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: Where are they hearing that? Are they hearing it from 466 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: the Packers? Are they hearing it from Aaron Rodgers? Because 467 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: it has to come from one of those two, right, Well, 468 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that there was a lot of speculation 469 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: in league circles. However, you want to characterize that that 470 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: he was unhappy and wanted out, And then if you 471 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: just again go back to the press conference, go back 472 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: to Jeopardy. Now he could play Jeopardy. He could do Jeopardy, 473 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: host Jeopardy and play football today. He could do that. Yeah, 474 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: but he's doing that, he's making the comments he's making. 475 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's funny. There were so many 476 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: people that knew this of his unhappiness that I think 477 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: all I really do was shine a light on some 478 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: of what had gone on the fact that you know, 479 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy, the Packers president had flown out to meet 480 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: with him, The Packers GM Brian Goodacunst had blown out 481 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: to meet with him. Packers head coach Matt la Floor 482 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: had flown out to meet with him. They're all trying 483 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: to state their case, plead with him to come back, 484 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: explained to him why he should be in Green Bay. 485 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: And by the way, doesn't appear that any of them 486 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: made any progress with him. So this was all going on. 487 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: But what can we confirm though Adam does he want 488 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: Bryan Goodacoon's fired the GM, can we confirm that I've 489 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: never said that. It doesn't. No, No, I'm just saying 490 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: there's so much information out that other people have put 491 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: out there that I don't know what has been confirmed. 492 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: I mean, Rogers hasn't said anything. I mean even you know, 493 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: did he refer to Goodacons as Jerry Krause. I don't 494 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: know that. But let me say this, there's so much 495 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: stuff that's floating around out there, some of which is 496 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: probably true, some of which probably isn't. And I would 497 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: say this also, whatever's floating around out there, whatever's being said, 498 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: we probably don't know the majority of the story. And 499 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: I would saying this, like when Tom Brady left No England. 500 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: We think we might have an idea, but I guarantee 501 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: you one day we'll hear more to that than what 502 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: was just out there being discussed on your show or 503 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: ESPN or whatever it may be. And I believe that 504 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: that's the case. Fran Rogers. We know he was unhappy 505 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: with some of the moves the Packers made. We know 506 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: that he didn't like that they not only drafted Jordan Love, 507 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: but didn't even tell him they were drafting Jordan Love. 508 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: We know that he has issues with certain people, but 509 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: we probably don't know a lot of the things that 510 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: have really pissed him off through the years in Green 511 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: Bay that have been building and plus Dan, everybody gets 512 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: like this, I think at some point, and you're like, 513 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: you were probably like this. You get to a certain point. 514 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: He got engaged over the New Year, different life. He's 515 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: been there seventeen years, right, At some point everybody wants 516 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: to try something different. You wanted to try something different 517 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: at one point in time. Did you know how old 518 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: were you when that happened? Dan? Fifty? Okay? Well, Anon 519 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: Rodgers is fifteen quarterback years right, Yeah, So I mean, 520 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: but do you know that he wants out. He still 521 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: wants out. Well, I know, I believe, do I know? Yeah, 522 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, I believe, I believe. Do I know 523 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: he wants out? What do we know? Fully know? I 524 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: have been told that he does not want to be 525 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: there by many people. Okay, so you whatever that means 526 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be there. Well, I'm just trying 527 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: to separate fact from fiction, rumor from innu window and 528 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: and and that's why I go to the source. That's 529 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: why I wanted to have you on, because it started 530 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: with you. Now did I hear about the Rams thing later? Yes? 531 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: I did. I wondered about the Niners. If you gave 532 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: them a do over, don't trade those draft picks to 533 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and you can have those draft picks. Would 534 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: the Packers have entertained a trade like that. No, I 535 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: don't believe. I don't believe they would have. You know, 536 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan called Mike Matt Lafleura that night to feel 537 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: it out, to see whether the Niners should make a run, 538 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: as these men have documented, and quickly was able to 539 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: ascertain if the Packers had at that time no interest 540 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: in dealing Aaron Rodgers, and so the talks never went anywhere, 541 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: just as they never went anywhere with the Los Angeles Rams. 542 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: But then we are now in early May, and the 543 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: packers have held firm to their stance. And the interesting 544 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: part becomes, now, over time, what happens to change this 545 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: particular dynamic. Does Aaron Rodgers soften his dance? I don't 546 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: believe he will, but we'll see. Do the greem of 547 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: Packers come off their stance of saying we won't trade him. 548 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't know right now they know to make a 549 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: decision right The fact of the matter is they couldn't 550 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: trade him until after June one anyway, due to the 551 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: salary cap numbers. If they trade him today it would 552 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: be a thirty eight million dollars charge. If they trade 553 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: them post June one, it will be split up to 554 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: sixteen and twenty two between the two years. So they 555 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: can't even do anything for the next twenty six twenty 556 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: seven days, whatever that may be. So there's no reason 557 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: for them to budge up that stance. They want Aaron 558 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: Rodgers to change his mind. They're going to continue to 559 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: hold out hope that he changes his mind. Do what 560 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: they can to change his mind. I don't think he will, 561 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: but there's no rush right now, so potential suitors here, 562 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: because if you think there's this stalemate continues and Rogers 563 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: doesn't want to play, at some point the Packers have 564 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: to cut their losses and just say okay, well hold on. 565 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: But do they then because they could just say, you 566 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: know what, Aaron, you don't want to play anymore. You're 567 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: not going to play here, We're not going to trade you, 568 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: and then it's just a standoff. Now I don't think 569 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: that serves anybody. Yeah, nobody wins. But okay, do you 570 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: want to be the guy in Green Bay? Do you 571 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: want to be the Mark Murphy, the president the GM 572 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: who trades Anon Rodgers? Do you want to do you 573 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: want to on your resume? Then I think they already 574 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: chose that direction by drafting Jordan Love Adam Well. I 575 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: agreed that. I mean that that's where a lot of 576 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: this starts. A lot of this again, how much I 577 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: don't know, but certainly a healthy portion of it. And 578 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: that was their decision. And so again they could say that, 579 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, as somebody said to me yesterday, each side 580 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: as levers, the Packers could say, we're not trading you. 581 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: And if you don't want to play, you're never playing again. 582 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, and this would be really 583 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: petty and really small and really hard to imagine, but 584 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: they could say, you also are thirty million dollars in 585 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: signing artist money. Now, I can't believe that somebody who's 586 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: done so much for one franchise would be subject to 587 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: that where the team would come after him for the money. 588 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: But the Packers could do that. It's a business. I mean, 589 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: that's that would be their decision. Aaron Rodgers. If he 590 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: says I'm not showing up, they're in trouble. And so 591 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: to me, I've always felt like Aaron Rodgers wants the 592 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers to do everything here. He wants them 593 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: to draft George what, he wants them to trade him. 594 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't want any of the mud on his hands, 595 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: and I've always felt like Aaron Rodgers has got to 596 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: get a little mud in his hands. They're not worried 597 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: about not care because the one's gonna wash you off. 598 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: All you have to do is say I love Green Bay, 599 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: love my seventeen years there, love the coaches, and I 600 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: love the players and my teammates. But they made their 601 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: decision last year and now with everything going on in 602 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: my life, I'm making the mind it's not that hard, right, Sorry. 603 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: I know that he'll disappoint some people, but that's that's 604 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: where he's at. Why hasn't Rodgers spoken at him? I 605 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: don't know that. That's a great question to me. He 606 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: can clear up a lot of this rumor innuendo. What's factor? No, no, no, 607 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: it's not rumored into any He wants out. He wants out. 608 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: He does not want to be there. That's not a rumor. 609 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: That's not innuendo. He doesn't want to be there. Well, no, 610 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: the other stuff about you know, how he views Gouda Koons, 611 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, the like there's there's other things there. You know. 612 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: I trust what you say that he wants out, But 613 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: if he does say, hey, you know they they cut 614 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: my friend Jake Kumero. Okay, how important was that to this? 615 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: You drafted Jordan Love? You didn't give me a heads up. 616 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: Do I have my issues with Brian Goodacons? Yeah? I mean, 617 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know, but at some point I 618 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: think he owes it to him himself and the situation 619 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: to just tell us what you feel, what you think, 620 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: instead of question trying to read into it. Okay, let 621 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: me ask a question. I don't think he owes that 622 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: to us. Do you ever do you why did Carson Palmer? 623 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: Did he restate why he held that a Cincinnati and 624 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: and want to move Do we know the reasons that 625 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: he wanted to move on in full? Well, okay, you 626 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: don't owe it, but the Packers spans. Yeah, Carson eventually 627 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: talked about it. Yes, he talked about he didn't want 628 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: to play for a losing organization anymore. He didn't like 629 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: he didn't think that the Bengals were a NFL franchise. 630 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, their practice facility was horror. I mean, there's 631 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: a long thing list of things that Carson talked about. 632 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: There we ever get a full, full, honest explanation from 633 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady about why he left New England. That's fair, 634 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: But but he was free to go, like Tom. Tom 635 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: could Yeah, Tom could just walk away. He didn't have 636 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: to say anything. He was like, correct, here here is 637 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: my response to all of this. I'm leaving. I'm gonna 638 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: go play for the Buccaneers. This is different because you 639 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: got money that's tied up with Aaron uh and granted 640 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: you did draft his replacement in New England Jimmy G. 641 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: But we saw what happened with Tom Brady. Tom went 642 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: above Belichick to make sure Jimmy G got escorted out 643 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: of the building. He had a power move. Here's here's 644 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: something interesting, Dan, This already unfolded, This very scenario unfolded 645 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: in the NFC ruth already this offseason. And no it 646 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: was not with a Super Bowl winning MVP legendary quarterback, 647 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: but it was with a former number one overall pick. 648 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: The Lions in Matthew Stafford went through this dance already. Okay, 649 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: and maybe the Green Bay Packers, and I don't know 650 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: when we've ever said this before, should take a page 651 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: from the Detroit Lions playbook. And these two sides sat down, 652 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: agreed that they would be better a part, and used 653 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: it to their advantage. Matthew Stafford now he wanted he 654 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: wounded up in LA. The Lions traded him, got three 655 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: ones back for that guy. So everybody won. It was 656 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: not messy. It was a clean divorce. But this is 657 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: this is like somebody said this to me this morning. 658 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: Then they said, it's like the couple that disagrees the 659 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: married couple where they won. Couple wants to go into therapy. 660 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: The other couple wants to get the other person wants 661 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: to get a divorce, but they want the person who 662 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: who wants to go say we want the divorce. Ada 663 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: Rodgers doesn't want it. He wants them to do everything. 664 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: He wants them to draft toward and love, he wants 665 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: them to be and then he wants them to trade him. 666 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: Went to me, he's just got to come out and 667 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: literally cut the court for everybody and say I'm not 668 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: coming back. But that's why he said, he's got to 669 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: say something at him. You're saying, okay, but you said 670 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: he didn't owe us No, no, no, he does. He 671 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: oweys his situation, so he can't. You want clarity, finality, 672 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: then you can he can. He can. He can create 673 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: that finality. Yes, clarity. No, I don't think he's got 674 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: to specify about Brian Guda, Countro, Jake Coomer, but he 675 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: will give us clarity that he truly wants out by 676 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: saying I truly want out there. Now we know I 677 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: want I'm not coming back. Trade me. How does this all? 678 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 1: How does this all play out? You're betting it, Well, 679 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: it's it's the biggest question of the off season, and 680 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 1: it's the biggest question since Tom Baby became a free 681 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: agent the last offseason in the NFL. And again nobody, 682 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: the Packers don't have to do anything. Um my guess 683 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: is nobody will do anything until they have to. So 684 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: my guess is they'll be OTAs later this month. He 685 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: won't be there, they'll be training camp. And does he 686 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: show does he say I owe it to the coaches 687 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: who I really like and the players who I really 688 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: like to be there or does his feeling override all 689 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: that and has he made the ultimate decision his mind? 690 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: It's done and over and I don't know whether his 691 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: stance softens right Like again, people change their minds. That 692 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: happens in life, in football, in business. I couldn't tell 693 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: you how it's going to work out. All I can 694 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: tell you is it is an issue. It's a big issue, 695 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: and it's not going away. Dan. Who's the starting quarterback 696 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: for the Packers Week one? That's a great question, right 697 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that Jordan Love is ready 698 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: for that, as much as the franchise invested in him. 699 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: When when you talk to people's that's the great part. 700 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: So if they move on, if somehow they move on 701 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers. They got to bring in another quarterback, Adam. 702 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: I think so, Dan, I think so Dan. The way 703 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: it was described to me this all season was I 704 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: was talking to people about Jordan Love people that are 705 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: watching in practice, and I said, how is he? And 706 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 1: the exact raise was He's got a long way to go. Yeah. 707 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: I figured, Hey, you're a great sport coming on and 708 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: clarifying it. I appreciate that. Well. I don't know if 709 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: I offer you much clarity, Dan, but I tried to 710 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: do the best I could. Yeah. I know, well, you 711 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: did better than Rogers is doing right now. Thank you, buddy, 712 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter. 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He once out and we're going to 736 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: release this on the day of the draft, and it 737 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: felt like it was breaking news. And then Adam said, hey, 738 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: this is just an accumulation. When the season ended, I 739 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: think the Rams saw Aaron Rodgers. I don't know this. 740 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: I just think the Rams probably saw Aaron Rodgers post 741 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: NFC title game and thought, look, we're going to be 742 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: getting out from under Jared Goff, and we, you know, 743 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: are making inroads with the Lions the trade for Matthew Stafford. 744 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: Before we do that, why don't we make a run 745 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: and just see if we could get Aaron Rodgers. Maybe 746 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: give the same package to Green Bay. This is what 747 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking here now. I did hear that the Rams 748 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: had had made they had had conversations. They didn't make 749 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: an offer. I want to be fair to the situation. 750 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: But I found out after the fact, after they had 751 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: made the trade for Matthew Stafford. But I said to Polly, 752 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: I said, go back to Adam's tweet. The original tweet, 753 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 1: read that to the audience. This is three nineteen pm 754 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: on Draft Day, a week ago today. From schefter quote 755 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: Reigning MVP Aaron Rodgers is so disgruntled with the Green 756 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: Bay pack Or that he has told some within the 757 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: organization that he does not want to return to the team. 758 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: League and team sources told ESPN on Thursday, it feels 759 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: But if it's teams sources, then it came from the Packers, 760 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: league and team sources multiple so league would have been 761 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: the Rams and maybe you know, the Niners and not Rodgers. 762 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: But He kept saying, it's not Rodgers, it's not and 763 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: this isn't coming from Aaron Rodgers. But it feels like 764 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: it's coming from Aaron Rodgers. And that's what I wanted 765 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: to clear up here. I just like, who is putting 766 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: this out? Did the Packers put this out? If it's 767 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: league and team sources, then the Packers helped put this out. Yeah. See. 768 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: But if it's league and teams sources and it's an 769 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: accumulation over the past couple of months, how did they 770 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: tell him on Thursday? Well, I don't know. I don't 771 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: understand here. I don't know this, and it's not fair 772 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: to Adam to say this now, but this might be 773 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: I might get scooped on one of the biggest story 774 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: of the year. But this is Paul Allen, who's a 775 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: radio host. He's the Vikings broadcaster. I think he put 776 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: it out there that the Niners had reached out to 777 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers to make a trade on Draft Day, 778 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: and maybe Adam thought, hey, let me get some more 779 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: information on this. And I'm just speculating here, so it's 780 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: not fair to him, but I'm just trying to figure 781 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: out why did this happen On Draft day. If it 782 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: wasn't something that was happening on draft day like that, 783 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: it was not imminent. That's the only thing I'm curious about. 784 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: And that's why. I mean, we had a good exchange there. 785 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: But I'm trying to get information there of and be 786 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: fair to the story but also be fair to Adam. 787 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: But it felt like, Okay, it's not coming from Rogers. 788 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: He said it numerous time, not coming from Rogers. But 789 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: he also said when he was with us, this didn't 790 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: come from the Packers. But your tweet says team and 791 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: league sources. Then it feels like somebody with the Packers 792 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:09,439 Speaker 1: has at least acknowledged this. That's good, that's fun. We're 793 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: back and forth there. Chefty, Pierre McGuire, NHL and NBC 794 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: try to recap what happened at the Garden last night 795 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: between the Caps and Rangers. More phone calls as well, 796 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: Seaton Pauli, Fritzie mclevener's truly Dan Patrick show. One more 797 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: item as we close out the second hour, our friends 798 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: from Zip Recruiter. 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