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Speaker 1: But some of the games today were fantastic. Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: I don't remember a game like that. Darnold's always been

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Speaker 1: tonight was a mirage. I think those are really good

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Speaker 2: They were fantastic. That was as entertaining of a game

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Speaker 2: He got hit and the ball went in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 2: Why do they need a weapon? Because a position of

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Speaker 1: Remember a couple of years ago, of course you do.

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles struggled with the Jets. Darnold disaster with the Jets,

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Speaker 1: leaving the Jets and winning, they're flourishing. They lead their division,

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Speaker 1: Now I just did, Okay, another game, so I had

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Speaker 2: Like a lot of people, I bought into everything. Sean

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Speaker 2: with Justin Jefferson. He's just their best player and they

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Speaker 2: just give him the ball a lot because he's a

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Speaker 2: great player. Jamar Chase the AJ Brown thing kind of

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Speaker 2: feel it's weird because they got all these other options,

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Speaker 2: but they know that he can be obviously a little

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Speaker 2: fickle with his emotions, you know, and it's it's hard

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Speaker 2: for him to hold him in because at this point

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Speaker 2: in time, he's on like his fourth contract, so he's

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Speaker 2: made an ungodly amount of money. He's a super Bowl champ,

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Speaker 2: he's an All proic, He's he's checked all the rest. Now,

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Speaker 2: it was just like he just wants the ball. He's

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Speaker 2: just a he's just an emotional receiver.

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Speaker 1: Feels like, remember Brandon Graham came back.

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Speaker 2: They don't they don't like each other. Essentially, their relationship

439
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Speaker 2: is fractured Jalen and AJ Brown because part of it,

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Speaker 2: part of when they traded it for him, is like

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Speaker 2: these guys are really good buddies. They've known each other

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Speaker 2: and then something happened and it was like, well, it's life.

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Speaker 2: You get as you grow up, maybe your relationships aren't

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Speaker 2: as tight and you just deal with it. And they

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl whatever. But then this year it

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Speaker 2: feels like immediately it gets a little weird and aj

447
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Speaker 2: brings it back to the surface, can't even hide it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, part of it is Jalen, which is

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Speaker 2: a good quality. He's like unemotional even today, like with

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Speaker 2: the no time left on that final drive. It's just

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Speaker 2: this guy's unfazed. I mean sometimes I wish I had

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Speaker 2: like his emotional stability. I mean I get angry just podcasting.

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Speaker 2: He's just he's just a flatliner. And I wonder sometimes

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Speaker 2: in football, like some of our best quarterbacks can be

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Speaker 2: a little emotional and Jalen just has none. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean I was told this by somebody who

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Speaker 1: would know that's very connected to that locker room, and

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Speaker 1: they said Jalen's not the most pop. Eagle players love

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Speaker 1: emotional guys. I mean, I remember years ago, half the

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Speaker 1: league thought Westbrook was better than Steph Curry. Steph Curry's married,

461
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Speaker 1: he's quiet, he's not cool. You know, his shoe looks

462
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Speaker 1: like something a pharmacist would wear. Westbrook's cool, he's athletic,

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Speaker 1: he's got the music, he's got the game. And Jalen's

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. He's got an all female like

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Speaker 1: management team. He's not you know, he's not going to

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Speaker 1: hire one of your buddies. He's not. He's not one

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Speaker 1: of the guys. It's like the old Joe DiMaggio with

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Speaker 1: the Yankees. It was like Joe DiMaggio just wasn't one

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Speaker 1: of the guys. He was brilliant. Not everybody wants to

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Speaker 1: go out and hit it and be wild every night,

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Speaker 1: like they just Jalen's very reserved, very mature, very focused,

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Speaker 1: and he has a life beyond football. And I and

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Speaker 1: I and I love guys like that. But and AJ,

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Speaker 1: you know, I get it. When you got a trophy

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Speaker 1: and you got the bag, you're looking for legacy. He

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Speaker 1: wants to be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of defended that, you know, and part

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Speaker 2: of being an all time great quarterback because Jalen has

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Speaker 2: the opportunity. He's already been to a couple of Super Bowls,

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Speaker 2: he's won one, like he's going to be a starter

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Speaker 2: for a long time. Is like, by the end of

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Speaker 2: Peyton and especially Tom, how could they relate to anybody?

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Speaker 2: Yet you never have met anyone that has been in

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Speaker 2: the locker room with Tom over the course of like

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Speaker 2: the last decade of his career. It wasn't like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was the easiest guy to deal with. He was

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Speaker 2: great anything I needed, he was always he could bow.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't going out and drinking beers with him anymore

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Speaker 2: or hanging, but he knew exactly how to be a

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Speaker 2: I've heard the same thing about Peyton Manning or Philip

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Speaker 2: River is a good example. Has had like seven kids

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Speaker 2: with three years to go in his career. I know

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Speaker 2: multiple people that played with him that said I would

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Speaker 2: have run through a wall for his family, let alone

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Speaker 2: the guy, like there is a skill to be able

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Speaker 2: to and listen. When you get top by Saban like

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Speaker 2: that doesn't really matter. You just kind of do what

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Speaker 2: he says. Then you get to the NFL and maybe

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Speaker 2: it's just an attribute that Jalen's really gonna have to

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Speaker 2: focus on just moving forward because it's clearly not his personet,

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Speaker 2: which listen, our personality is our personality. But at that position,

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Speaker 2: especially if you're not gonna be like Patrick Mahomes, how

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Speaker 2: does Patrick Mahomes relate to an undrafted free agent rookie.

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Speaker 2: He can't anymore. He's worth five hundred million dollars, But

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Speaker 2: ask anyone with the Chiefs. He does right, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Now at this point, Mary to some haulay

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Speaker 2: like that. You have to do that, Lamar Jackson. I've

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Speaker 2: known people that have coached here that just said, people

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Speaker 2: love this guy in the locker room. Yeah, he's not

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Speaker 2: hanging out with them all. So it is the onus

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Speaker 2: is on the player at that position. You've said this forever,

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Speaker 2: not about any other positions. You can act like however

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Speaker 2: you want as a corner wide receiver, not a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So sometimes you got to go above and beyond and

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Speaker 2: just kind of almost fake it, you know, to be

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Speaker 2: friends with a guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm reticent to talk about the Jets, but Dallas beats

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Speaker 1: the Jets thirty seven to twenty two. I always judged I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think it was that close either. When when I

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Speaker 1: Felt like forty seven to three. It was awful. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was twenty three to three at half and it

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Speaker 1: wasn't that close. No, So the best drive of the

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Speaker 1: day for the Jets, I think was the first one

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Speaker 1: where they settled for a field goal. It was eleven plays.

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Speaker 1: You know, my takeaway is always been when a coach

557
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Speaker 1: is hired, what's his side of the ball. Like their

558
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Speaker 1: defense is bad and it's gotten worse every week. It

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Speaker 1: feels like, I mean, the second half was a seven

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Speaker 1: on seven drill. It looks like one of those seven

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Speaker 1: on seven college drills where you take a really good

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Speaker 1: quarterback you know, in high school or college and he

563
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Speaker 1: just boom, boom boom. Dak was terrific. Dak's having his

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Speaker 1: best year as a pro because he's having to carry

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Speaker 1: a team. And this isn't the zeke top o line

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Speaker 1: in the league, Amari Cooper, That's not what this is

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Speaker 1: without Ceedee Lamb John I'm not sure they have a

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Speaker 1: definitive number two. Their tight ends probably a two to

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Speaker 1: a three on most teams. The running backs are absolutely two's.

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Speaker 1: The O line is still in a semi rebuild. Tighter

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Speaker 1: Smith's great, but this is not. This is not an

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Speaker 1: elite head coach, It's not an elite O line, it's

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Speaker 1: not an elite roster. I've I've been blown away by Dak.

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Speaker 1: I've never thought this highly of Dak. I think again,

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Speaker 1: like Jalen Hurts, mature, head down, not highly emotional, an adult.

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Speaker 1: Do I want to pay him? When I'm paying him?

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Speaker 1: You know what? Right now, Dak's worth his contract, He's

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Speaker 1: worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, could be the MVP, you know. I think what

580
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Speaker 2: really puts the Jets into perspective is probably no one

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Speaker 2: had a bigger question mark next to their name as

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Speaker 2: a coach than Brian Schottenheimer. And you just said how

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Speaker 2: you're defined as a coach, especially on a team that's

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Speaker 2: not great. What does your side of the ball look like? Well,

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Speaker 2: he's the offensive play caller. And they've been awesome all

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Speaker 2: year awesome, and now they've lost one of the highest

587
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Speaker 2: paid and best wide receivers in the league for several games.

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Speaker 2: And like you said, George Pickens is a two, and

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Speaker 2: you know, Ferguson solid. I mean, this isn't Michael Irvin

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Speaker 2: and Emma Smith walking through the door. And the offensive

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Speaker 2: line is definitely a question mark. And the offense like

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Speaker 2: it's listen, Brian Schottenheimer's kind of throwing it back to

593
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Speaker 2: back in the day when he was declining head coaching interviews,

594
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Speaker 2: like pretty good offensive coordinator. I kind of know what

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Speaker 2: I'm doing, and I've been blown away. I mean their

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Speaker 2: team they got very you know, the Packers got very

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Speaker 2: lucky a week ago that that ball didn't bounce in

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Speaker 2: the air and said to hit the ground. Or the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys would be what three and one right now? Or

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Speaker 2: I mean they I guess they are two and two.

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Speaker 2: They would be they'd be three and two, like they

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Speaker 2: would be just good, Like there's be no disputing, Like

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Speaker 2: they're just a solid, like they could could they win

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Speaker 2: nine games?

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Speaker 1: And also the weather in the Northeast and the north

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Speaker 1: is beautiful. I was in Chicago over the week as

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Speaker 1: Chicago was like eighty degrees. So it's a good time

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Speaker 1: to have a good quarterback in this league because you're

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Speaker 1: not dealing. You know, we're about four or five weeks

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Speaker 1: out from me getting ugly. Dallas is built for good weather,

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Speaker 1: they're built for domes. They don't have a number one

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Speaker 1: receiver without CD, but they've got enough guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: It's funny. I was watching Justin Fields. He's never seen

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Speaker 1: the field particularly well, and they don't This coaching staff

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Speaker 1: hasn't figured out that. Listen, just use his legs, just

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Speaker 1: run him. Seven step drops don't work with him, I

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Speaker 1: mean multiple and the Jets pass pro is awful. They

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Speaker 1: can't pass protect at all. It's gotten worse again. The

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Speaker 1: Jets are getting worse every week. I was reading a

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Speaker 1: couple of the Jets beach reporters and they're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I've covered three hundred games. This is rich co type.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is how bad this team is. And

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Speaker 1: we're at week five. I mean it's not like they're

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody beat up, but Justin Fields has had

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Speaker 1: three defensive head coaches and he's just not good enough.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you give him McVeigh. Maybe he would

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Speaker 1: have gotten a second decent contract, but he's just you know,

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Speaker 1: he's the classic athlete, not a quarterback. So but the

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Speaker 1: fact that he was with Pittsburgh who couldn't run the ball,

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Speaker 1: struggled with their offensive line. But last year I think

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Speaker 1: he was was he four and two or he had

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Speaker 1: a pretty good record early and you looked at Justin

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, he could get in her contract.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh got rid of him. Pittsburgh went with old Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Because if you go back and if you remember Justin's

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Speaker 1: numbers in Pittsburgh, Mike Tomlin replaced him with Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: We were all like, Justin actually extrapolate those numbers out,

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Speaker 1: he'd be like a you know, nine to ten win quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh move off that moves off him. It shows you

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Speaker 1: the difference between a Steeler team last year that struggled

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Speaker 1: offensively and how how bad the coaching and the infrastructure

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Speaker 1: is of the Jets. Because Fields looks completely over his skis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I get that. Maybe they were bidding

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Speaker 2: against some other I thought, giving him two years and

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Speaker 2: forty million dollars and thirty guaranteed based on his history

646
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Speaker 2: was pretty insane. Like to me, he felt like a

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Speaker 2: one year, seven million dollar quarterback just to kind of

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Speaker 2: get you through your year one As a coach, I

649
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Speaker 2: do believe though they came in like I understood extending

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Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson. Garret Wilson's starter on any team. You know,

651
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Speaker 2: we've seen good wide receivers on shitty teams. It's hard

652
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Speaker 2: to play when no one gets you. The quarterback has

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Speaker 2: or gets you. Quarterback gets you the ball. Sauce Gardner,

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Speaker 2: if you just ask people around the league or just

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Speaker 2: watch football, to me, is living off a reputation from

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Speaker 2: several years ago. And as a wise man told me

657
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Speaker 2: in the league, said, you know what changed last year?

658
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Speaker 2: John Why had such a bad season. They started not

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Speaker 2: allowing him to just commit pass interference every play. He

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Speaker 2: is not Deon Sanders or Revus in terms of a

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Speaker 2: foot athlete. He is a long corner like Richard Sherman. Well,

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Speaker 2: Richard Sherman is a physical player, like a linebacker, the

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Speaker 2: great hitting and tackling corners in league history. Sauce doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to tackle and has elite ball skills. Sauce does

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Speaker 2: not either. They gave him one hundred million dollars column.

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Speaker 2: They had never even coached them, so they came in,

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Speaker 2: they had some sexy names, and now you're kind of

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Speaker 2: stuck with a guy like that. Not making any places

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Speaker 2: does nothing for your team. It's not like he's a

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Speaker 2: winning player. And there's no court like, there's not a

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Speaker 2: savior coming in this draft. It looks like you're an

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Speaker 2: unwatchable team like that. That's when the Saints, they've been bad.

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Speaker 2: I've watched the Saints three or four times. They're actually

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Speaker 2: kind of entertaining Rasler.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of getting there.

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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore can call some plays. You're like, okay, listen,

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Speaker 2: we're not that talented. At least our head coach brings

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Speaker 2: some to the table. Aaron Glenn, I have a lot

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Speaker 2: of respect for what he did last year with the Lions.

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Speaker 2: I would say this about the Jets, and I'd even

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Speaker 2: throw the Raiders in there with my guy Spy Tech

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Speaker 2: and Pete Carroll. There are a couple franchises that are

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Speaker 2: just hard to overcome that they've been taking down everyone

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Speaker 2: for a long time now. And maybe these guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: Brady and kind of that crew in Vegas. It is

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Speaker 2: not an overnight fix, and there is an ethos. And

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Speaker 2: just like a culture that is permeated through the building

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Speaker 2: and the walls and the Jets and the Raiders, it's

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Speaker 2: hard to shake because guys leave you they excel. You

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Speaker 2: bring guys in, they get worse. You bring incredible coaches

691
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Speaker 2: or young energy, it still looks the same. And I'm

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Speaker 2: watching the Jets and the Raiders and I just go, God,

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Speaker 2: these teams are just They're terrible. I mean, they feel

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Speaker 2: like they have no hope. The rosters are bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just the Cowboys. I mean when Dak Prescott's looking

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Speaker 2: like Tom Radio paidon Manning in his prime against you

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Speaker 2: with no CD lamb, I mean, that's this is a

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Speaker 2: pretty low point. I mean, and the Giants now feels

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Speaker 2: like they're not very good again. You know, Dark gave

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Speaker 2: them a little hope. It's like, God, the New York

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Speaker 2: teams and the Yankees are getting killed. This is you

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Speaker 2: better hope. Mike Brown coach up the Knicks. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting the one franchise in New York that isn't impatient,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't blow it up is the It's also easily

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Speaker 1: the most successful franchise and all they get is heat

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Speaker 1: from their fans. And you know, Cash Ben's been there

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Speaker 1: thirty years, you know, I think eight years for Aaron Boone.

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Speaker 1: But their take is, you know, the upstairs sets the lineup.

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Speaker 1: It's analytics. The Yankees don't make moves. They're patient to

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Speaker 1: a fault. The truth is, if Garrett Cole was healthy,

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Speaker 1: they didn't have a chance to get, you know, to

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Speaker 1: the America League Championship Series. They just I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: they have the pitching. They've gotten boxed and back to

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Speaker 1: back games by Toronto. Yeah, so you know, New York

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Speaker 1: is its own animal. And now for our next segment,

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Speaker 1: Whiskey Business. Yes, Whiskey Business, brought to you by Green

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Speaker 1: River Whiskey, the official whiskey of the Colin Coward Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Colts beat the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: This was my favorite pick of the week. Got this

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Speaker 1: one forty to six. Coltspeed the Raiders. I will die

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Speaker 1: on this hill. I think the Colts have a top

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Speaker 1: six roster in the league. I love their offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I think they have stars. I don't care if it's Pittman, Warren,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's outstanding. He just doesn't He's not a you

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Speaker 1: know Saquon Barkley is. You know, you get these running

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Speaker 1: backs who stylistically they pop. And Jonathan Taylor was always

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Speaker 1: just a speed guy out of college. He wasn't shifty.

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Speaker 1: He was like, uh oh, like track guy. Just oh

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Speaker 1: behind that offensive line. I swear to God, John like,

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Speaker 1: it's just he three yards before he gets touched. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what Pete Carroll's fascination. That's nine picks and

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Speaker 1: six games for Gino in his last six games. I

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Speaker 1: think it's something like that. Six touchdowns and nine picks

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Speaker 1: this year. Six touchdowns, nine picks for Gino. That is

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Speaker 1: the Geno comeback Story's over. It's the opposite of what

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll likes. He is so much about clean football. Run,

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Speaker 1: run the game, run the ball. I think the Raiders

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Speaker 1: are just a big work in progress. When Colton Miller

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Speaker 1: gets hurt o line, it's just one of the worst

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Speaker 1: five in the league. But you look at the Colts,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Chiefs will probably beat the Jags tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I look at the Colts like I

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Speaker 1: look at Tampa. Now, Baker's better than Daniel Jones, But

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Speaker 1: coaches who some people started doubting, you know, like stiking

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Speaker 1: with Anthony Richardson. Oh Stikins lost his magic. But that

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Speaker 1: Tampa roster when healthy, that Colts roster. I know they're

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Speaker 1: a middle of the country, flyover country. I think the

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Speaker 1: cults are good. I really do.

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Speaker 2: DJ had to pass a touchdown where he rolled out

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Speaker 2: and everyone's gonna be it's the Raiders. It's not about

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Speaker 2: the opponent. Where he was just on the move guy

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Speaker 2: in the back of the end zone. He split it

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Speaker 2: through a defender. You know, I've always compared him to

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Speaker 2: Alex Smith. He's got a better arm than Alex Smith,

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Speaker 2: no question. His arm actually is better than I thought.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes it just takes you with a credible offense

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Speaker 2: to really get to see that arm talent. It's pretty

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Speaker 2: You watch Baker and Samuel like these guys can sling it.

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Speaker 2: You're watching Daniel Jones in twenty twenty five, I would

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Speaker 2: have said forever he's got an average to below average arm,

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Speaker 2: Like his arm is more than strong enough. Not Josh Allen,

762
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Speaker 2: but it's he's even that thing in there. And I'm

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Speaker 2: a big guy to me. The Warren pick looks fantastic.

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Speaker 2: He has been easily one of the best rookies in

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Speaker 2: the league. I mean, obviously the Raiders are bad, but

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Speaker 2: I would say the Colts. John, I think the Colts

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Speaker 2: can win a playoff game. I mean, I think the

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Speaker 2: Colts can be a factor in the AFC, especially now

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Speaker 2: it's definitely opening more up right.

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Speaker 1: They are the most efficient offense in the league. They

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Speaker 1: went eight for ten on third down, so they become

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Speaker 1: an incredibly efficient offense. John, they had the ball only

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Speaker 1: twenty six minutes. They scored forty points. No offense in

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Speaker 1: this league is more efficient. I know going into the

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Speaker 1: Rams game, Daniel Jones is twenty to twenty nine. So

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Speaker 1: it's like we look at Baker and Sam.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's really.

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Speaker 1: The store this year is the story of redemption. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Baker leads his division, Sam's great, Daniel Jones, it's.

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Speaker 2: I do wonder if you got Shane Stike in over

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Speaker 2: Cocktails and Ballard, if they knew, like when they truly

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Speaker 2: was it a week into training camp? It's not even

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Speaker 2: this isn't even a close competition. Did they know before

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Speaker 2: training camp? Just based on they did?

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Speaker 1: I think they did. I had listen. I was talking

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Speaker 1: to Steve Kayen about a year ago and we were

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Speaker 1: out and I said, what do you make Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 1: And Steve Steve said, man, Colin, he said, you got

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Speaker 1: to be able to hit those layups in the flat

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Speaker 1: and he said, you know, I looked at some of

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Speaker 1: the film and he's like, you know, if anybody can

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00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: do it, Shane Steiken can fix it. But kyme and

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Speaker 1: I were talking about it, and he just said, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you have to work on that stuff, if you're

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Speaker 1: spending a lot of practice time on that stuff, it's

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Speaker 1: really hard. And because you know generally with with with Baker,

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Speaker 1: you're you're dealing with high end stuff. Baker solved all

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00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: that stuff with Baker's it can be concepts and defense.

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Speaker 1: You're not worried about the layup stuff. So and then

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Speaker 1: I talked to somebody else, a GM, an active GM

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Speaker 1: in the league, and he echoed what Steve Kaiman told me.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, Gosh, if you're struggling with the underneath stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're spending a lot of time on that.

804
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: You have to spend so much time on that to

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00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: get that right, but then you're not really that's elementary

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00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: stuff in the league. You're not dealing with the second

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00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: and third and fourth level stuff. You also can't call

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Speaker 1: a game that you want to call in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I remember I got off the phone with this GM

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Speaker 1: in the league and my take was, well, God, if

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Speaker 1: if I don't trust a guy to throw a downfield,

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Speaker 1: I can't call the same game. I just eliminated thirty

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Speaker 1: five percent of the playbook. So I think with Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: you can use the whole playbook. That's the difference.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy? You know, the redemption season, even watching

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Speaker 2: Carson Wentz with Kevin O'Connell, it's like he actually doesn't

817
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Speaker 2: look that terrible, you know. I mean it's like this

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Speaker 2: the power of some of these offensive coordinators. That also,

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Speaker 2: because what are usually offensive coordinators are head coaches have

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Speaker 2: pretty good skill guys around them, Right, Kevin O'Connell, they

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Speaker 2: got a pretty loaded roster, you know, Shane Sich. They've

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Speaker 2: invested some picks and some money into the offensive skill guys. Right,

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Speaker 2: you play for Shanahan, you play for McVeigh, you play

824
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Speaker 2: for lafleor Like they emphasize that side of the ball

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00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: in terms of people, you know, the wide receivers, the

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Speaker 2: running backs, the tight ends, these guys look a lot

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Speaker 2: better than some of the franchise that failed them. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you go back to the Giants, I mean, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 2: was horrendous. I get asked a lot like, is this

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Speaker 2: gonna if Daniel Jones? I mean, is in the MVP

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Speaker 2: conversation this team wins thirteen or fourteen games? Clear the

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Speaker 2: Giants aren't. Were they gonna win five games? And listen,

833
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: it was time for a breakup. I didn't blame them,

834
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Speaker 2: it was not working. But this is one of those

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Speaker 2: things like, oh, ultimately Saquon Barkley is much better with

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Speaker 2: the great offensive line. But if I'm you know, the

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Speaker 2: Giants ownership, I paid my head coach, who's the play caller.

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Speaker 2: I know he's kind of bounced around being the play caller,

839
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Speaker 2: but he's an offensive guy to fix that position. And

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Speaker 2: this guy we had this guy. Hell, we paid this

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Speaker 2: guy and then he goes to another offensive coordinator as

842
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Speaker 2: the head coach and looks like Sam Darnolds with Baker May.

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Speaker 1: How's that possible?

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Speaker 2: You know? How can that happen? This guy is going

845
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Speaker 2: to get I mean, change Psyching and Chris Ballard are

846
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: going to get contract extensions. I would imagine before the

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Speaker 2: playoffs start, it's going that well, well, so.

848
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Speaker 1: The airth thing is and we have you know, it's

849
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room. There's been multiple reports that

850
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: have surfaced the last couple of years Chris Ballard in

851
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: the front office, Jim Orsay had relapsed into some really

852
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: problematic behavior and this stuff. You know, I think Chris

853
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: Ballard will never will never ever say it, maybe to

854
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: his wife. There was I think it was exhausting and

855
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: energy sapping for the entire organization to deal with an

856
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: owner who was beloved in the community but was going

857
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: through some really tumultuous personal times and so and I

858
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: said this at the time when he passed away. Two

859
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: things can be true. You can love somebody and be

860
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: broken hearted, but you also think to yourself, it'll be

861
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: a less chaotic organization upstairs. And I think Balller's really good.

862
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: I think Stiking's really good. I mean the last several years,

863
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: go look at the last two or three drafts, they've

864
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: had great players in the first round fall to them.

865
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: Like remember the draft where everybody, I think Baller got

866
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: the first defensive player taken in the draft, the UCLA edge,

867
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: who was the best pass rusher in the league fell

868
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: to him at like fifteenth and he was laughing about it.

869
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: They had a camera on him.

870
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: He's like, we just got the best pass rush. We

871
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: didn't even move up.

872
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: And then Warren, you know, is available. So I think

873
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: my take is problems Earla's upstairs number. When the Athletic

874
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: the subscription service about two weeks ago, I talked about

875
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: it on my show. They had the best ten front

876
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: offices in the league based on GMS and coaches, and

877
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: it might as well have been the top ten teams

878
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: in the league. Is this college football? This is why

879
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: Belichick struggling. College football is about talent recruiting. If you

880
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: can recruit, you can hide a lot of problems. The

881
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: NFL is about upstairs and a great scheming coach. Saula

882
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: is a very good schemer. Suddenly Fred Warner and a

883
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: bunch of dudes look great and I and so I

884
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: think if you have Ballered upstairs and Shane Steike and

885
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: scheming and the coach and the quarterback is capable, you're

886
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: gonna win the AFC South. It's not a very good division.

887
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also think you know everyone and in the

888
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: NFL goes through adversity, you get an injury, you know,

889
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 2: something happens. Help coaches I've saw get you know, get sick,

890
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: get cancer. Who knows all sorts of crazy stuff happens.

891
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: I would say Andrew Luck randomly retiring when no one

892
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: saw coming is one of the most traumatic events. Just

893
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: like in life, there are certain things that are that

894
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: are easier to come back from that. That event had

895
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: ripple effects on the franchise for a long long time,

896
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: and most teams could not have overcome that. And they've tried.

897
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: They actually kind of they have not been embarrassing, but

898
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: they finally found like they been ban dating it Philip

899
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: Rivers to Matt Ryan, and they finally found a younger player.

900
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 2: You know the thing with Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan,

901
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: like it was over for those guys, right, and then

902
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: they took this swing on Anthony Richardson, who's just not

903
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: a good player, right, Yeah, So they got Daniel Jones,

904
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: who I think we're honestly on one of the great runs.

905
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: I remember being around the Raiders a lot, and they

906
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: talked about Jim Plunkett, I mean, one of the craziest

907
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 2: redemption stories of all time, right, high pick Heisman Trophy

908
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: and then wins the Super Bowl. But that, for a

909
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: long period of time didn't really happen. In the NFL.

910
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: It was a lot of paid Mannings and Eli Mannings

911
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: and Roethlisberger's Like Philip Rivers, you were drafted high, Carson Palmer,

912
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: and you were good, you know, and if you stunk,

913
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: you were just bad. And now we got these guys

914
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: who were just really bad went through who are just thriving,

915
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 2: and we got these mid round of late round picks

916
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 2: kicking ass and taking names. I mean, look at Mac Jones,

917
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: who just kind of all of a sudden, this guy's

918
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: terrible to just had one of the great Thursday night

919
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: performances in the league. Three. So it's just it's a time.

920
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: It's a great time to be a quarterback with some talent,

921
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: because you're gonna get opportunity.

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927
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Speaker 1: the Saints beat the Giants twenty six fourteen Jackson Dart

928
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: twenty six to forty couple hundred yards. Giants first two

929
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: drives were really good. And then and I don't think

930
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: I've ever seen this, they had five straight possessions with

931
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: turnovers and the Saints went on a twenty three on

932
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: an unanswered point run. I wrote a couple of things. Now,

933
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors wasn't there, Tyrone Tracy the running back for

934
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: the Giants, So they're not great to begin with. They

935
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of their juice. And next week

936
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: the Giants now play Thursday against the Eagles off a loss,

937
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: so you know they're one in four is one and five.

938
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: But you know, I watched Spencer Ratler, and I've been

939
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: doing this this year. I've been watching because it's supposed

940
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: to be a strong quarterback draft. We'll get into that

941
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: it's not as strong as we thought. But Rattler was

942
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: good on third down twenty to thirty. He's always had

943
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: a nice arm. That's never been a question. He I

944
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a power arm, but it's a

945
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: I would say he's kind of an easy thrower. But

946
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: I watched Spencer Rattlers today, and I'm not sure the

947
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: Saints draft the quarterback. I'm not sure they do. What

948
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: do you make of it?

949
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean they just drafted the guy

950
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: who's like forty years old, the rookie, and Spencer Ratler

951
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: beat him out pretty easily, I would imagine. I've I've

952
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: been really impressed with the Saints on offense. They are

953
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: good on offense. It's defensively, they don't have much talent

954
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: and most weeks they have no chance to stop anybody.

955
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: Like you said, I mean, they cost five turnovers. Some

956
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: of them are like punched out of Scataboo's hands, like

957
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: that's not happening most weeks. But their offense has not

958
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: been the problem. I don't think. Listen, I watched a

959
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: lot of football on Saturday most weeks like you do.

960
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: I do not see a lot of Saviors coming into

961
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: the lague next year, so I who knows. I mean,

962
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: this draft is pretty open. It doesn't feel even like

963
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 2: that potent of a draft. So I think a lot

964
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks that are on bad teams are going

965
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: to continue to get to play. And if you need

966
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: an answer at that spot, you're in some trouble because

967
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: you know, you better hope to hit, you know, strike

968
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: oil in the third or fourth round with one of

969
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 2: these random guys. But for every Dak Prescott and Brock Purty,

970
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: most guys are like Tyler Shuck. They get drafted in

971
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: the second, third round, you never see anything of them.

972
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: The history of the league is not a bunch of

973
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: third round ers thriving in the NFL.

974
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: No, No, it's people always I've heard this before. Oh

975
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: it's such a coin flip. Now, your best your best

976
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: offensive tackles, your best defensive tackles, your best quarterbacks are

977
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: all overwhelmingly first round guys. I mean, Jalen Hurts, Drew Brees.

978
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: There are occasional guys that dropped the top of the second,

979
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: but I mean, there's a reason we all know what

980
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: round Tom Brady was drafted him. You know, there's a

981
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: reason we know that Dak went in the fourth round,

982
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: like there's a reason because it didn't happen very often.

983
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple of college things I wanted

984
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: to talk about with you, because again I didn't think

985
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: one of the downsides to the NFL being quarterback reliant.

986
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: If you don't have a quarterback, you're out of it

987
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: by week five. I mean, the Jets and the Giants

988
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: are out of it. It's over. They're just they can't compete.

989
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: The outther thing is when you have so many games,

990
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: like I think these dual Monday night football games are ridiculous.

991
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: Nobody likes it. Well, it also takes another game out

992
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: of the Sunday rotation. So you know, again, if you

993
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: had to put Rams Niners today in the late window

994
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: along with the Seahawks Buccaneers, you'd had one of the

995
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: great late windows in recent memory.

996
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: Right, business sense behind the doubleheader because they're clearly doing it?

997
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: Are they just trying to?

998
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: Amazon just paid a billion dollars for very few games,

999
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: So I get that. I understand Amazon. You want to

1000
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: get a streamer in, but it takes her. Really, they

1001
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: usually put a pretty good game up, so Amazon gives

1002
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: you that money. Amazon's like, we'll do it, but we

1003
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: want winning teams. Remember when they first started Thursdays and

1004
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: the Thursday games, oh mostly sucked and then kind of

1005
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: quietly Fox did it for about a year. Remember that

1006
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: Fox did it for a very brief time, got out

1007
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: bit eventually by Amazon, but foxed it for about a

1008
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: year and the games got better. And you know the

1009
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: reason I think it got better under Fox. This is

1010
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: my guess is I watched the Fox schedule for about

1011
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: a year. I forget how long Fox had it. It

1012
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: wasn't very long. But you started seeing division matchups, which

1013
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: are easier because the teams don't have to travel as

1014
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: far and they're built in rivalries, So Ravens Steelers or

1015
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: Bucks Falcons, it's not as disruptive Enners, right. So that

1016
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: then the NFL looked at it and thought, you know,

1017
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: this whole thing we did on Fox, it kind of

1018
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: makes sense, like, don't have multiple time zone differences on

1019
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: these short week games, which is how it started. And

1020
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: then Amazon's like, okay, we like, we like the way

1021
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: you're doing it now, and we want more good games.

1022
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: So they're putting pretty interesting games. If you go to

1023
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: these Thursday games, there's always at least one star quarterback.

1024
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: So you take Matt Stafford out of Sunday, well, okay,

1025
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford's great, and you know, then you do a

1026
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: dual Monday. Okay, well you take really good quarterbacks out

1027
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: of Sunday. So I mean today, I mean there were

1028
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: three or four games I wanted to watch and I

1029
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: mean like, and there was half of the lineup. I

1030
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: mean Minnesota, Cleveland, you know, Cincinnati, Detroit, Arizona, Tennessee. Either

1031
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: it was a mismatch or it's lobsided, So I don't

1032
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: like it at all. I thought Saturday was once again fascinating,

1033
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: So there was always this kind of feeling. The SEC

1034
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: would always say, hey, man, the reason this is such

1035
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: a great conference anybody can beat anybody. Well, well, Ucla

1036
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: beat Penn State forty two to thirty seven. So I

1037
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: don't hear SEC fans saying, you know, they look at

1038
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: the Big Ten is weakness. Well, you used to always

1039
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: pat yourself in the back because the eight seed would

1040
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: beat the number two seed. And my takeaway was, I've

1041
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: always been a James Franklin supporter, but this is one

1042
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: of the things that makes the Big Ten tough. In

1043
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: the SEC, everybody's in the same time zone. You're asking

1044
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: Oregon to go all the way cross country, and now

1045
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: you're asking Penn State to go all the way cross country.

1046
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: I watched Washington play Maryland. Washington was asleep in the

1047
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: first half, didn't wake up until the late third quarter,

1048
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: and then the offense looked great, but they just got

1049
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: beat up by Ohio State had to travel three thousand miles,

1050
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: and then I'm watching UCLA and Penn State. Penn State

1051
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: didn't wake up until midway through the third You're asking

1052
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: these college kids, you're traveling cross country. You don't travel

1053
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: nearly as well as the NFL does. You don't stand

1054
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: in the kind of hotels, you don't bring in twenty

1055
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: six trainers. The NFL now travels john as you know.

1056
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like Stan at the Rich Carlton going

1057
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: to a spa six hours a day. So I think

1058
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: what makes the Big Ten the problematic for these coastal

1059
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: teams is you're gonna get some of these games in

1060
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: the middle of the season. Off a huge Oregon game,

1061
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: Penn State cross country was just no juice. That was

1062
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: my take on it.

1063
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think it's twofold one. I think Penn

1064
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 2: State had treated that Oregon game like their super Bowl.

1065
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: That was going to be a season defining game because

1066
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: if we beat this team, we finally get that you know,

1067
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: kind of monkey off our back. We beat a top

1068
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: team who's not as good as they had been in

1069
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 2: theory because they're a much younger we should win this game.

1070
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 2: It's at night, and then they lose. So the way

1071
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: they had built the schedule leading into that game was

1072
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 2: a joke. Right They were playing FIU Nevada, and then

1073
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: they lose that game in dramatic fashion. Almost felt like

1074
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: they had checked out. So you show up long cross

1075
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: country against my guy, Tim Skipper, Fresno State, guy that

1076
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: takes over for Sean Foster, who's Tim Skipper's brother, is

1077
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: the running back coach for the Bills. His dad's a

1078
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: longtime NFL coach, just gonna bring them juice. Jerry Neuheisel,

1079
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: who's been at UCLA as a player and a coach forever.

1080
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: They just kind of had a fuck it mentality, and

1081
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: they unleashed Nico as a runner. And Penn State's just

1082
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: coming off this game that was their super Bowl, lost

1083
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: it and let's face it, no chance they had a

1084
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: great week of practice. I don't believe that for a second,

1085
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: which I understand because when you build something up anything

1086
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: in the life.

1087
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: Of young kids with twenty two year olds.

1088
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then all of a sudden they were down.

1089
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: If that game was six quarters, Penn State would have

1090
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: came back and won the game, right, But they were

1091
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 2: down and then all of a sudden, their quarterback's pretty overrated, right,

1092
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: I mean that's I mean, it wasn't his fault. They

1093
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 2: lost the game. The defense wasn't jo John.

1094
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: When I watched Drew Aller, there's not a lot of

1095
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: juice to it. He doesn't have a lot of he does,

1096
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: doesn't have great instincts. He's not inspiring, he didn't have

1097
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: tons of energy. He's just a big, strong kid. But

1098
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: when I thought that was a game where you sort

1099
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: of needed your quarterback, say, fellas, get on my back.

1100
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: Nico was doing that. Nico was doing that running guys over.

1101
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: It was. It's just a fan of football, and I

1102
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: grew up actually a pretty big UCLA fan. My cousin

1103
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: was a walk on there in the in the late

1104
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: nineties and early two thousands. That had to be the

1105
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: coolest Ucla moment in football in ten fifteen years. Well,

1106
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: remember when Josh rosenbat A and M yep.

1107
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: I remember they came back at halftime, Similarly, not a

1108
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: lot of fans in the stands and they beat Texas

1109
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: A and M, and it was like forty four forty one.

1110
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: It was just wild football game. But I don't know,

1111
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: I like James Franklin, but I think he's a great

1112
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: energy guy and a great recruiter.

1113
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: But I think it's over after that moment. I mean,

1114
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: it's it's one thing to lose to Oregon, which it

1115
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: sucks because he's lost that game a lot, but you know,

1116
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: they lose in overtime. They literally right there. They were

1117
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 2: just in the final four. But you can't lose to

1118
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: UCLA as a twenty five that is, you know, I

1119
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: think USC losing to Harbaugh and Stanford was more out

1120
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: of left field. Right that was in the peak of

1121
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: the Harball of the Dynasty. Stanford was an embarrassment. I

1122
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: think they had just been one to eleven to Vita Pritchard.

1123
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: They were forty point underdogs. This might even be crazier though,

1124
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: because of the hype that was around this team, even

1125
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 2: though they just lost to Oregon. I mean, I didn't

1126
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: think maybe they would cover because it was twenty five points.

1127
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 2: But if you said, what would you guess to score

1128
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: forty five to twenty five or something? Colin Penn State

1129
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: Jim Knowles, the guy that they took from Ohio State,

1130
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: is the highest paid defensive coordinator in the country. That's

1131
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 2: what Penn State just paid the defensive coordinator to come.

1132
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: Ucla had scored fifty seven points to start the season.

1133
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: They just scored forty two. They scored fifty seven points.

1134
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 2: Nico had become kind of a running joke. He left

1135
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: all this money at Tennessee to come to this bad program.

1136
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: And you talk about inspiring, like how many runs? He's

1137
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: just running over guys. He looked like Cam Newton meets

1138
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. He was. If he had played like that

1139
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: over the course early on against with UCLA, they clearly

1140
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: would have been in more games. I mean, it was

1141
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: just to me there was the human element too. I mean,

1142
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: I loved Tim Skipper, I've known him forever. But they're

1143
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: seeing Rick new heisl who had coached at UCLA, watching

1144
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: his son who had played there, and now, you know,

1145
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: as an assistant coach calling place. Jerry new Heizel found

1146
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: out he was calling plays like Tuesday night.

1147
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's been very chao practices.

1148
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been very chaotic in that program. Just I

1149
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: mean the coaches that probably includes like seven total coaches

1150
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: right now, what a I mean the Rose Bowl. It

1151
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: feels like they've sold signage all over the place because

1152
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: they know people won't show up. The whole thing's boarded off.

1153
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: Remember those old Raider games and like the twenty years

1154
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: ago that would used to be blacked out. They Mount

1155
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: Davis was all tarped off. That's what the Rose Bull

1156
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: feels like. I if buyouts did not exist, I would say,

1157
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: if you told me James Franklin was fired this morning,

1158
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: I would have believed you. But obviously the buyouts, the

1159
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: fifty million. It does feel like it's at the point

1160
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: in time like I saw someone comparing it to Calipari.

1161
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: You know, Calipari eventually just kind of leaves. You know,

1162
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: James Franklin, it's kind of like John Harbaugh. Like if

1163
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: it's John hart, no one thinks John Harball. Or when

1164
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: people say it was a time for Mike Tomlin. These

1165
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: guys are bad coaches. You put James Franklin at one Florida,

1166
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: he'd be fine, he'd win, was he is he Saban

1167
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: or Kirby. No, But like maybe it's just run its course.

1168
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: He's been there twelve years and the resume speaks for itself.

1169
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: Last year was his opportunity and Alur throws that ball

1170
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: across his body and they lose a Notre Dame or

1171
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: else they're in the national championship. Yep. Yeah.

1172
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: And I think the Calipari comp is spot on, is

1173
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: that you know, John could still coach, but when you're

1174
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: a Gant, when you're a dominating recruiter, the expectations ramp

1175
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: up because that's US now so transparent, there's so many sites,

1176
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: and fans get so worked up. The expectations ramp up.

1177
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: You know, Mark Fuo has told me that he because

1178
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: it's the great thing about Gonzaga. He goes, I can

1179
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: get three star recruits. He goes, if I went to

1180
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: UCLA and I recruited the exact same class I did

1181
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: at Gonzaga, I get heat. And he goes, yeah, but

1182
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: that's our system. It works for our system and our players,

1183
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: and we keep getting to, you know, the tournament and

1184
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: winning games. You go to these big schools, fans pay

1185
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: attention to that recruiting and they go crazy when you

1186
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: get it. But then you got to win all these games.

1187
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: Chris Peterson's a great example, right the team he had

1188
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: at Boise. If he had at UCLA or he had

1189
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: a Washington, they would have loved crushed, but they would

1190
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: have hated the They would have loved the team, but

1191
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: they would have hated the classes as the kids were

1192
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: coming right. Maybe like Kellen Moore, we don't want this

1193
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: guy as our quarterback. We want arch Manning.

1194
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: One more college topic. Florida beat Texas Billy Napier. Every

1195
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: every time you think he's done, he pulls one out.

1196
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: They beat Texas and arch Manning twenty nine to twenty one.

1197
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: So and they have four new offensive linemen at Texas.

1198
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: The past protection is not great. But I got to

1199
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: tell you I sat there and watch arch Manning. He

1200
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: holds onto the ball way too long and he doesn't

1201
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: have a great instinctive feel. When I watched him this weekend,

1202
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: there were a couple of moments John where I thought

1203
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: the game was in his head, like he like double

1204
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: pumped on stuff, or he looked almost mechanical. He was

1205
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: afraid to take a big shot down the field. And

1206
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: you know it's I don't want to be too harsh.

1207
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure arch Manning. You know, there were some

1208
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: when he came out that said he went to a

1209
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 1: small school, he dominated average competition, but I've not really seen.

1210
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a great he moves well, he's

1211
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: got the body. He's got the name, but there is

1212
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: something to be said about he's still young. About there's

1213
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: an it. You know, some guys just they you get

1214
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: him the ball and there's a confidence and there's an it.

1215
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: This Texas team, you know, the stark For all the criticism,

1216
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, he wins a lot of games. They're not

1217
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: a good football team now.

1218
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: Well, I think if you go back fifteen twenty years ago,

1219
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: a guy like Arch gets several seasons. I think in

1220
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: the day and age where you're paying so much money

1221
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: to individual players, I think his spots in major jeopardy

1222
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, you just pay too much for

1223
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: the roster to leave it in the chance of seems

1224
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: like a good guy. Obviously, his uncles are legends. Like

1225
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: this isn't Peyton or Eli Son, this is Cooper's And

1226
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: if you removed he threw a beautiful, like deep bomb

1227
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: for a touchdown, you remove that play. I thought he

1228
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: was mostly atrocious yesterday, Yes, yeah, And this is they

1229
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: played Florida. You know they didn't just play you know,

1230
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: Georgia Obama. So they still A and M looks excellent

1231
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: and you know Elko is known now with Saban retiring

1232
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: right there with Kirby is like the best defensive coordinator

1233
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: in the in the country. So this could get even weirder,

1234
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, the kind of a transition year,

1235
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: there are no transition years anymore at the top programs

1236
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: with the money. Ask Oregon, we're in a transition year.

1237
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: We bought it and we're moving and in that.

1238
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: Place they had to replace eleven offensive starters Oregon and

1239
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: they're great.

1240
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: So to me, I would say, I would say Arch's

1241
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: positions in major jeopardy in twenty twenty six because their mentality.

1242
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,959
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree with the amount of money you're paying

1243
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: for a roster and a coaching staff and the transfer

1244
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 2: portal now is to compete for national championships every single

1245
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: year and you don't get like a three year runway

1246
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: like out the Drew Aller experience that this is his

1247
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: third year pretty rare, but by his second year, you know,

1248
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: they were in the basically the final four. I don't

1249
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: know that Arch is getting a second year, you know.

1250
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: And I bet there would be some people that said, well,

1251
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: what if we had transitioned last year? I mean, there

1252
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: are people in Penn State saying we shouldn't have let

1253
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: the backup go to Missouri. We should have gone with

1254
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 2: that guy over Drew Aller. But these are the type

1255
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 2: questions you asked when you're at the top programs and

1256
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: you have access to all the sweet players. Right, So

1257
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: if they go eight and four and he continues to

1258
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: look like this, I just don't see him as a

1259
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: quarterback in twenty twenty six. I really don't. And that's

1260
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: just how this thing works. It's because you basically can

1261
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 2: cut a guy, slash, move on from a guy, force

1262
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: him out. Remember a couple of years ago at Ohio

1263
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: State when they basically blamed it all on Kyle McCord.

1264
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: It's different because McCord's last name is not Manning. But again,

1265
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Speaker 2: like this pretty cutthroat now. I mean, as you hear

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Speaker 2: these Lane Kiffin, it's become very transactional. You either get

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Speaker 2: it done or you're done. And they're like Kyle McCord.

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Speaker 2: They blamed everything on Kyle McCord for losing the Michigan Ironically,

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Speaker 2: they lost to Michigan again. Now granted that they won

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Speaker 2: the national championship Will Howard, but they just kind of

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Speaker 2: force you out. It's not like other people would want them.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, but he his arm talent. That there was

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Speaker 2: a throw that Lagway made a deep bomb down the

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Speaker 2: middle and you just went, yeah, got the physical attributes

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Speaker 2: on this kid are just our eye opening. And then

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Speaker 2: you watch Arch. You know, you said he was a

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Speaker 2: good runner. They ran a couple like quarterback powers for him.

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Speaker 2: He's okay. I mean, he's not Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: So with that letticism, he can't just take over that way.

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Speaker 2: He's like Drew Out. He can move a little bit

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Speaker 2: and he can bust off some runs, but I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: call him a runner. And then watching the arm, he

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Speaker 2: misses a lot of layups too. That's that's part of

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Speaker 2: the problem. So the layups and Sarks getting guys open.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Sarks always gotten guys open, and he not only

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Speaker 1: misses layups. But when you watch him sometimes you're not

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Speaker 1: quite sure he's got the right arm angle or the mechanics.

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Speaker 1: Like some of it looks bad. It just doesn't look right.

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Speaker 1: It's it's you know again, Dante Moore can spin it,

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Speaker 1: he can miss and you're like, you know, like Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold could throw a pick and you still like the delivery,

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Speaker 1: you like the velocity, like I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just if his name was Arch middle Cough and

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Speaker 2: he was just a five star normal quarterback, not famous.

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Speaker 2: Last name is he benched right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all of our odds are presented by hard Rock Bet,

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Speaker 1: a new and great partner at the volume. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: Monday Night football. Kansas City minus three and a half

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Speaker 1: at Jacksonville. So Jacksonville's probably the weakest home field advantage

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Speaker 1: in the league. I don't trust them in big spots,

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Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence is always good for a bad pick.

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Speaker 1: I think I think I would take Kansas City in this.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing to say Kansas City just

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Speaker 1: came off this impressive win over Baltimore, but we watched

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Speaker 1: Baltimore get housed today at home by Houston, so I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't think it was a big win for

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. I think by the third quarter, you know,

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Speaker 1: they were on cruise control. But my takeaway is adding

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Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy opens up the underneath routes for them. I

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Speaker 1: think I'd probably take Kansas City to cover, but because

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Speaker 1: they don't have a run game, if they do lead,

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Speaker 1: it is hard for Kansas City to eat the clock

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Speaker 1: up and kind of just squeeze you to death, you know,

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Speaker 1: which gives Jacksonville a chance for a backdoor cover. But

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Speaker 1: their home fields not much of a home field. I'll

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Speaker 1: take the Chiefs by a touchdown. What say you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in complete agreement here. I think Kansas City's

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Speaker 2: got a little I mean, when you have the success

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Speaker 2: they do, almost like the Kevin Durant Warriors, like they

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Speaker 2: need extra motivation. Sometimes it's not just the slow start

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Speaker 2: kind of woke them up. But now the Chargers have

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Speaker 2: all these injuries that they're not going to look the same,

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Speaker 2: missing their tackles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Charges are a mess.

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Speaker 2: The Broncos are clearly still figuring it out. You got

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Speaker 2: the Ravens now imploding. You think Kansas City is losing

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Speaker 2: sleepover Aaron Rodgers. So the AFC, the Bills, they've played

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Speaker 2: them a million times, they beat them every time that

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Speaker 2: mattered in the playoffs. They're not intimidated to go to Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: I think Kansas City now looks at the AFC goes, God,

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Speaker 2: we just win a couple games. We're right back in it.

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Speaker 2: This is it's still our conference.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Denver win helps the chief side. They

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Speaker 1: watched that game and They're all in their hotel room

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Speaker 1: tonight in Jacksonville going guys, forget the Chargers and the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: we got to keep up with Denver.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing. Jacksonville's defense is clearly pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Like that unit is solid. The Trevor Lawrence thing, I

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Speaker 2: don't see. I wanted to believe a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: I'm completely out. You got. Brian Thomas is having a

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Speaker 2: weird year. He's banged up. Travis Hunter has been just

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Speaker 2: like Miage, is not really working out for what they

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Speaker 2: give him. I love Spags in this spot against Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: Liam Collins, good offensive coordinator Trevor Lawrence. Even last week

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Speaker 2: against Robert Sala, wasn't that good to me? This got

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Speaker 2: like a twenty to ten type feel, kind of ugly.

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Speaker 2: That's how the Chiefs like to play the volume