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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, December second, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, Episode
Speaker 1: number seventy three. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: presented by Geico Live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios
Speaker 1: at the Star. We got Dave and Nick at the Star.
Speaker 1: They are in the studio, myself and Amber. We're at
Speaker 1: our home studios, and we got forty five minutes of
Speaker 1: Cowboys Talk here for you guys. Today. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks joining us here in a moment. He's going
Speaker 1: to talk to us about the Baltimore offense versus the
Speaker 1: Dallas defense. We'll have some questions for these guys about
Speaker 1: the Dallas Dallas defense versus the Baltimore offense, and maybe
Speaker 1: even hopefully get to a question or two there. Towards
Speaker 1: the end of the show. We're gonna turn over first
Speaker 1: though to Nick and Dave in studio. Mike McCarthy had
Speaker 1: his press conference this morning ten thirty. It's been a
Speaker 1: little while since he's met with the media. What do
Speaker 1: you have to talk about today, Nick, Well, I mean
Speaker 1: he basically talked about just how unique this schedule is
Speaker 1: and how he uh, you know, he looks at it
Speaker 1: as he's got like the a positive vibe about it
Speaker 1: that you know, this is unique that they get the
Speaker 1: chance to to practice, like get a chance to evaluate
Speaker 1: the team they're playing in the middle of their of
Speaker 1: their installation in practice week. So you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: not looking at it as a negative. He's he's got
Speaker 1: some you know, positivity vibes there. And and Dave, I know,
Speaker 1: he talked a little bit about injuries as well, but
Speaker 1: I mean it just sounded like he was kind of
Speaker 1: relieved and kind of get back on the field. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: what I keep thinking about is you remember, like we
Speaker 1: used to make fun of Jason Garrett for being like
Speaker 1: it's Wednesday, it's Thursday, Like today's today's our Friday. Like
Speaker 1: I need that right now, like I need I need
Speaker 1: a little bit of structure in my life. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate Mike McCarthy, I mean, it's been so weird. So
Speaker 1: they I mean, they play Thursday, and the expectation is
Speaker 1: you're going to go right back into a game week
Speaker 1: for a Thursday game. Obviously, that hasn't been the case.
Speaker 1: The game's been moved two or three times, and so
Speaker 1: they're coming off basically what was a half bye week,
Speaker 1: but now it's kind of a short week. And another
Speaker 1: big thing Mike McCarthy talked about is the memorial service
Speaker 1: for Mark Marcus Paul is going to be tomorrow. It
Speaker 1: sounds like the team's gonna watch that virtually. You know,
Speaker 1: they can't all go to the church with COVID obviously,
Speaker 1: so they're gonna watch it virtually. And that's so it's
Speaker 1: kind of built into their game week where yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean this is some Monday, it's on it kind of
Speaker 1: it's like a Monday, but it's also a Wednesday, like
Speaker 1: they're going through an install. This is an install day
Speaker 1: where they kind of have their game plan for Baltimore.
Speaker 1: They know what they want to do, but when practice
Speaker 1: is over, they're going to go watch the game together
Speaker 1: and just sort of get a feel for what Baltimore
Speaker 1: looks like. Right now, I guess maybe try to get
Speaker 1: a feel for how many of those guys are even
Speaker 1: going to be able to play, because I think the
Speaker 1: Ravens only have thirty eight players on their roster right now,
Speaker 1: and so then Tomorrow is sort of like they're going
Speaker 1: to do a little bit of work, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of a day off to commemorate Marcus Paul. And then
Speaker 1: Friday you really get into the swing of like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: where you're really, you know, gearing up for the game.
Speaker 1: So all of I just said all of that and
Speaker 1: just confused myself. Honestly, it's this is weird. Sorry, what's up? Hey, Hey,
Speaker 1: Dave and Nick, I'll ask you as a question, Aimber
Speaker 1: you can chime in this too, but like, how much
Speaker 1: do you think that they can really glean from that
Speaker 1: game that's going to happen this afternoon with Baltimore and
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh because of the fact that Dave, as you said,
Speaker 1: so many of their guys are out and so many
Speaker 1: of their big players players that will make a difference
Speaker 1: it's in the game against the Cowboys. How much you
Speaker 1: think they can actually get from watching that game together?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you asked me that, because I
Speaker 1: asked Mike McCarthy that, So I'm glad that we're on
Speaker 1: the same page, you know, I was, as usual, it's weird, Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: it's weird because I mean, by this point in the week,
Speaker 1: you've already put your plan together and that's you know, Mike,
Speaker 1: Mike said that. He was like, you know, we've we've
Speaker 1: already done a lot of that. We know how we
Speaker 1: want to attack, we know what we want to do.
Speaker 1: But I think this game you can glean you know,
Speaker 1: what personnel do they have, who are they using, what
Speaker 1: do the snap counts look like, who's available? And then
Speaker 1: obviously you got to keep an eye on guys that
Speaker 1: might become available. You know, I would guess Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 1: not going to play today, but he will very likely
Speaker 1: be available against against Dallas, which that's Nick's that's Nick
Speaker 1: one oh one, right, there's well, there's no other reasons.
Speaker 1: There's no other reason. They haven't come up with another reason.
Speaker 1: There's no reason why they've moved the game from when
Speaker 1: from Monday to Tuesday other than to get more players
Speaker 1: in there, maybe a raining MVP. I mean, because it
Speaker 1: makes no sense. It hurts the Cowboys even more. And
Speaker 1: I didn't say this yesterday, but when I found out
Speaker 1: that the Ravens play on Monday night the following week,
Speaker 1: like that pissed me off, But it didn't piss anybody
Speaker 1: else off. I mean, Jerry wants to play on national TV.
Speaker 1: You're not subject to league discipline if you question it either.
Speaker 1: I mean, like Mike McCarthy or Jerry Jones could get
Speaker 1: a fat envelope from FedEx if they say something like that,
Speaker 1: I would just, you know, I would just ask the question.
Speaker 1: I mean why, I mean, why, why why are we moving?
Speaker 1: Why are we moving a game? Why are you giving
Speaker 1: the Ravens six games six days between each of their
Speaker 1: games and the Cowboys get four and five? Why? I'm
Speaker 1: just is it because Lamar is he because he's on
Speaker 1: the cover of Madden? If so, just tell me it's
Speaker 1: an interesting thought, and it's certainly you know, I know
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of arguments. You know, the Denver
Speaker 1: game didn't get called off because they felt that they
Speaker 1: had you know, they had contained that and it was
Speaker 1: really just the quarterbacks. Whereas this is an ongoing outbreak
Speaker 1: with Baltimore where I think for ten straight days they
Speaker 1: had at least one positive test and you can't play
Speaker 1: the game until you have your hands around it. But
Speaker 1: at the same like, it's hard, it's hard to parse
Speaker 1: out the real rhyme and reason to it. All you saw.
Speaker 1: It was similar with Tennessee All you know back in October,
Speaker 1: the links that the league went to. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say to protect them, but to but more or less, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of how it feels. So yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't really understand why this game couldn't be happening
Speaker 1: on Monday, other than if not for what you're saying,
Speaker 1: then maybe just to keep the TV schedule from being
Speaker 1: too crowded. But that seems focused to me. Yeah, that,
Speaker 1: and it may not even be TV schedule being crowded.
Speaker 1: It may be a situation literally where you start talking
Speaker 1: to the networks and the networks are saying, hey, we
Speaker 1: don't have a spot for this, we can't put this
Speaker 1: on television Tuesday. We could put it on at this
Speaker 1: time and it would work, right. So those are the
Speaker 1: put things that we don't know. But I agree with
Speaker 1: you Nick, overall, we just look at it from the surface,
Speaker 1: it seems a little curious that they would make the
Speaker 1: decision to move it to Tuesday versus Monday, because you know,
Speaker 1: it's a five day lead time for for Baltimore coming
Speaker 1: from a Wednesday game to a Monday game, and that's
Speaker 1: the exact number of days that the Cowboys are going
Speaker 1: to have going from a Tuesday to a Sunday. So
Speaker 1: you would think it's it's possible. I just again, there
Speaker 1: may be some things under the surface that we just
Speaker 1: don't know about this. I don't have I'm not chiming
Speaker 1: in on this subject because I really don't have any
Speaker 1: input in the whole situation. There are many things that
Speaker 1: the league is doing that I don't understand. I know
Speaker 1: that Dave has been talking about the whole thing of
Speaker 1: why not make a week eighteen, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of questions around that whole aspect. But my best thinks
Speaker 1: are what I think about is I'm hoping that the
Speaker 1: NFL is just doing their best to for everyone, just
Speaker 1: mutually everyone and trying to figure this out. There are
Speaker 1: so many moving elements, so many different things that go
Speaker 1: into place that I wouldn't want to be in their positions.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure this is a very tough decision.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of money involved, and we know that
Speaker 1: money is what drives everything, and we just don't know
Speaker 1: as much as they do as far as having to
Speaker 1: handle so many different factors and elements, which I will
Speaker 1: say this too. I mean, oh, I'm sorry, Derek. I
Speaker 1: just maybe Mike McCarthy. Maybe McCarthy's really pissed off about
Speaker 1: this in private. I mean, all football coaches are always
Speaker 1: pissed off about everything that affects their team, so he
Speaker 1: probably is. But I just my attitude and maybe maybe
Speaker 1: it's his too, is like in a situation like this,
Speaker 1: go all the way back to August, this is what
Speaker 1: you were worried about, playing a season in a pandemic
Speaker 1: like they made through training camp because you're not dealing
Speaker 1: with other teams. And then the first few weeks is
Speaker 1: one thing, but like now we're into the depths of
Speaker 1: this where like flu season's part of it, the novelty
Speaker 1: is worn off, so you got a guard even harder
Speaker 1: against doing things the right way because you know some
Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens are in this situation because somebody
Speaker 1: on their staff let their guard down. And so my
Speaker 1: attitude is just like, whatever we got to do to
Speaker 1: get these last four weeks of the season and let's
Speaker 1: let's just do it. I mean, I agree with you
Speaker 1: guys for sure on that. All I'm saying is is that, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you know is John Harball, is he quiet about it?
Speaker 1: I mean, he voices his displeasure on everything, and and
Speaker 1: here here they are. It's almost seems like the NFL's
Speaker 1: kind of catering to it a little bit. So it's
Speaker 1: that whole squeaky wheel gets the grease a little bit.
Speaker 1: But you know, at some point, you know, just just
Speaker 1: ask the question. That's all I'm saying. It's just like
Speaker 1: I would like to know the answer. But hey, if
Speaker 1: Jerry's not upset and McCarthy's not upset, I shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, I mean, it didn't it's fine
Speaker 1: TOI football great, I mean yeah. And the fact the
Speaker 1: fact is they may have already asked the question, right,
Speaker 1: They may have asked the question and gotten an answer
Speaker 1: and they're like, huh, I don't like it, but I
Speaker 1: see why you made the decision. And maybe that's why
Speaker 1: publicly they're not as upset about this as as as
Speaker 1: we all seem to be. But you know, again, there
Speaker 1: are lots of moving parts, and I agree with you,
Speaker 1: Dave at this point, I think the NFL is trying
Speaker 1: to do whatever they can to cross the finish line
Speaker 1: on this season. They in my opinion, have done a
Speaker 1: really great job from the standpoint that when you're dealing
Speaker 1: with thirty two teams that have upwards of sixty people,
Speaker 1: sixty players and then other people involved that are all
Speaker 1: having to be a part of this to be able
Speaker 1: to have to go through a season where they've had
Speaker 1: what maybe I think there's been a total of three
Speaker 1: or four games that have had to be rescheduled, and
Speaker 1: you look at college football where they're canceling games and
Speaker 1: rescheduling games every week. It's I think an amazing job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's been an amazing job by the NFL
Speaker 1: and what they've been able to do, And really it
Speaker 1: speaks to the level of care that the players and
Speaker 1: the staffs have have had to take in trying to
Speaker 1: do the right things and try to mitigate their exposure.
Speaker 1: You know, I've never run a marathon before at all,
Speaker 1: or even close to that, Derek. I know you've run
Speaker 1: some or half marathon, but I can imagine it if
Speaker 1: you're you know, twenty six point two, twenty six point
Speaker 1: two the whole, and you gets about nineteen or twenty
Speaker 1: and someone tells you, hey, by the way, we're just
Speaker 1: moving it up to twenty seven. You have to run
Speaker 1: twenty seven miles, Like that's kind of what it feels
Speaker 1: like here, like week eighteen Like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: seventeen weeks only. Great, that's a really great analogy about it.
Speaker 1: That way. I'm bad about thirty percent on my analogies.
Speaker 1: Some are really bad, some are okay. Put you in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame if you're a baseball player. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing there will be some fights. If someone
Speaker 1: in a marathon decided they were going to add an
Speaker 1: extra mile to that, even just an ole a mile,
Speaker 1: it'd probably be a couple of fights. I might break
Speaker 1: out with people a little bit unhappy with that. Let
Speaker 1: me know, okay, because I won't be in that conversation.
Speaker 1: Let me know if that ever happens. Other than, hey, Michael,
Speaker 1: party have anything to say about juries? Now that's I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, not really. I mean, we know
Speaker 1: we know Cam Irving and Zach Martin aren't going to
Speaker 1: be available. I don't I don't get the impression that
Speaker 1: either one of them is going to I R. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike said maybe a couple of weeks for
Speaker 1: Zach and maybe more quickly than Cam for Cam. So
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, San Francisco or Philly for Zach
Speaker 1: maybe and maybe maybe um Cincinnati or San Francisco for Cam.
Speaker 1: That's just a guess, but it doesn't sound like either
Speaker 1: one of them's going I R. Here's the interesting thing.
Speaker 1: It's three weeks. It's three games, right, so if you
Speaker 1: put them on IR, it goes all the way. The
Speaker 1: game didn't even start until Baltimore, so like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the first game, right, so sore. I mean, at this
Speaker 1: point in the year, you're kind of shutting them down
Speaker 1: if you do that, which maybe they should, and I
Speaker 1: they're gonna make those decisions based on what happens, like
Speaker 1: if they lose to Baltimore. I mean, let's say Zach
Speaker 1: can come back against San Francisco. If they lose to
Speaker 1: Baltimore and Cincinnati, yeah, I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's worth it at that point, but we'll see when
Speaker 1: we get there. I guess. Yeah. I think what will
Speaker 1: be more important is what's happening with those other NFC
Speaker 1: East teams if they're also losing, then maybe they look
Speaker 1: at it and they're like, huh, we're still in this right.
Speaker 1: So that's the craziness of this season for the NFC
Speaker 1: East is no matter who's winning around the league, the
Speaker 1: NFC East tends to not win, which keeps all the
Speaker 1: teams in the middle of the hunt to win the division.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take our first break a little early. Go ahead, Dave.
Speaker 1: I'm loving how the delay versus the non delay. It's
Speaker 1: really nice being in the studio. You're not wrong. I
Speaker 1: was just I was just gonna joke that, you know,
Speaker 1: a month or a month or six weeks ago, we
Speaker 1: were like, no, seven, seven or eight wins might do it,
Speaker 1: and then now it's like five or six wins might
Speaker 1: do it. Like three weeks from now, it's like, shoot,
Speaker 1: whoever can get that fourth one? Well, a couple of
Speaker 1: them already do. But I mean, I'm just bracing myself
Speaker 1: for a five and eleven playoff team. That would be insane.
Speaker 1: I got five on it better. Yet, all the sudden,
Speaker 1: Jason's all the sudden Jason's eight and eight doesn't sound
Speaker 1: too bad. Oh, my god, I didn't have a parade.
Speaker 1: If hit eight and eight, like, I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: five game winning streak. Let's go. It's if this sale
Speaker 1: goes to eight and eight and a baby, oh man,
Speaker 1: love it. You never know. We're gonna take our first
Speaker 1: break when we come back. We got Bucky Brooks lined up.
Speaker 1: He's gonna talk to us about the Baltimore offense versus
Speaker 1: this Dallas defense with that when we come right back.
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Speaker 1: We gotta have Bucky Brooks joining us. We got Bucky
Speaker 1: Brooks joining us from NFL Network, Bucky, let's talk a
Speaker 1: little Baltimore offense versus Dallas defense. We're gonna start with
Speaker 1: the guy that makes it all work, Lamar Jackson. He
Speaker 1: was reigning MVP of the league last year, as we
Speaker 1: all know, but he seems to be a little less
Speaker 1: potent in twenty twenty than he was in two thousand nineteen.
Speaker 1: His quarterback rating then was one hundred and thirteen point three,
Speaker 1: this year's ninety three point four. Um, what do you
Speaker 1: think has been the biggest difference between Lamar Jackson last
Speaker 1: year and Lamar Jackson this year? There are a couple
Speaker 1: of different things that are impacting Lamar Jackson. He's been
Speaker 1: a little off his game after playing at the MVP level.
Speaker 1: He certainly has and continue to play that way. But
Speaker 1: I would say it's a combination of the offensive line
Speaker 1: struggles similar to the Dallas Cowboys, They've had a lot
Speaker 1: of moving pieces and moving parts on the offensive line
Speaker 1: that has impacted the way that they've been able to
Speaker 1: run the football. And then it's play called Greg Roman.
Speaker 1: Greg Roman has kind of changed a little bit of
Speaker 1: what they do offensively. They've gone away from some of
Speaker 1: the run heavy sets they really created a ton of
Speaker 1: problems a season ago, and they tried to spread it
Speaker 1: out and open it up and put more athletes on
Speaker 1: the field. And what that has done is that has
Speaker 1: allowed the defense to have a more athletic defense, a
Speaker 1: faster defense than they've done, a better job of containing them.
Speaker 1: And then finally, when you look at the way they
Speaker 1: run their passing game, Lamar Jackson is a guy that
Speaker 1: doesn't throw the ball really well outside the numbers. For
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they continue to try and throw the ball
Speaker 1: outside the numbers and do some things that don't really
Speaker 1: play to these strimps as a playmaker. Bucky. Intoday's press conference,
Speaker 1: McCarthy said something that made me scratch my head. He
Speaker 1: said something like, you don't want to over prepare for games,
Speaker 1: and given the current circumstances, I mean, is there such
Speaker 1: thing as that can you really over prepare for this game? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think what you try to guard against is when
Speaker 1: you have a lot of time leading up into a game,
Speaker 1: you don't want to kind of give your players too
Speaker 1: much information because then what happens is a little paralysis
Speaker 1: by analysis. And so typically what you want to do
Speaker 1: is you want to keep things as close to your
Speaker 1: normal schedule as possible, and so the first couple of
Speaker 1: days may have been let's just have regular practice, let's
Speaker 1: just work on footwork and fundamentals and technique, and will
Speaker 1: slowly implement a game plan. Also, because the Ravens are
Speaker 1: playing today, you don't know who's going to be available,
Speaker 1: so you don't want to put a lot of energy
Speaker 1: and effort until you kind of figure out, Okay, who
Speaker 1: are they going to have available, what will it look like?
Speaker 1: Because they really won't get a lot out of this game.
Speaker 1: RG three is not going to play, and so the
Speaker 1: way they play Pittsburgh, you just don't know. So you
Speaker 1: just want to kind of wait and see and see
Speaker 1: what it looks like coming out of this game and
Speaker 1: then put together a game plan after that. That's why
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to over prepared, because you don't want
Speaker 1: to waste a lot of time defending things that you
Speaker 1: won't ultimately see on game day. That I was like, Dave,
Speaker 1: go hey, Bucky tight Ends that you know, we've seen
Speaker 1: Kelsey Kittle there. Like two of the best is Mark Andrews,
Speaker 1: and he's on the list too, but I mean he's
Speaker 1: gonna play. I'm sure so Mark Andrews. Where does he
Speaker 1: rank on your tight end lists? He's not one of
Speaker 1: those guys. I think he's the benefitiary if you're playing
Speaker 1: in the system that really creates opportunities for the quarter
Speaker 1: for the tight end to get open on play action.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is also very comfortable throwing down the middle
Speaker 1: of the field, and so the play action passing in
Speaker 1: today utilize. Mark Andrews is the star. He's also a
Speaker 1: bigger target, and so they have him. But if we
Speaker 1: were to stack him up, if we were playing in
Speaker 1: the backyard and you told me of all the tight
Speaker 1: ends to pick, he certainly wouldn't be one of those
Speaker 1: guys because he's not necessarily special in any area. Um.
Speaker 1: He is a solid tight end, but he doesn't have
Speaker 1: dynamic or a level playmaking skills in a ton of
Speaker 1: different ways where you put him up there with Kelsey
Speaker 1: and Kittle and some of the other ones. Will he
Speaker 1: be a problem though for this for this defense though,
Speaker 1: because I mean we've seen you've seen those linebackers trying
Speaker 1: to cover. That's really what I'm asking is this defense.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now they we're talking about playing against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That is to be sorry, I'll just get to the point.
Speaker 1: It could be it could be a problem if Jalen
Speaker 1: is forced to check him and they're unable to deal
Speaker 1: with the running game. Yes, it can be problematic. I
Speaker 1: think the big thing has been the deception. And I
Speaker 1: will say this after they get their hands on the
Speaker 1: Washington tape and all the blur motion and the misdirection
Speaker 1: and deception that the Washington football team was able to do.
Speaker 1: That really created some problems in terms of making the
Speaker 1: linebackers pause and who do I have and where do
Speaker 1: we line up? You will see a lot of that
Speaker 1: because Baltimore kind of introduced a lot of that into
Speaker 1: the league, this unique offense that they were running with
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. So now with Mark Andrews being able to
Speaker 1: get down the field and get to the seam, yes,
Speaker 1: it could be problematic because if the discipline isn't there,
Speaker 1: with the eye discipline from the linebackers, they could be
Speaker 1: big problems down the field the passing game for Mark
Speaker 1: Andrews and others. How are they coping without Ronnie Stanley
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, one of the top two
Speaker 1: or three tackle duos in the league. I mean are
Speaker 1: they are they handling it or or what's the biggest difference.
Speaker 1: You know, without him in the lineup, they're struggling. They're
Speaker 1: struggling up front. The reason why the Ravens haven't been
Speaker 1: the juggernaut offensively that we saw a year ago is
Speaker 1: because the offensive line is completely different. When you remove
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley, you move Orlando Brown over the left tackle,
Speaker 1: and he's simply not the same player. And then the
Speaker 1: bigger problem is not Brown playing, is you move DJ
Speaker 1: Flucker out the right tackle and he just does not
Speaker 1: have defeat and so that offense is not being able
Speaker 1: to move. The last four games, they've been outrushed by
Speaker 1: their opponent. That's something that we never would think about
Speaker 1: with the Baltimore Ravens. So it's a huge problem. It's
Speaker 1: a huge issue, and it's one of those things that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys maybe may be able to exploit because they're
Speaker 1: really not good up front right now and that's been
Speaker 1: their biggest issue looking at that and this could be
Speaker 1: an offshoot of that question a bit. But teams have
Speaker 1: sacked Lamar Jackson more frequently this year than last five
Speaker 1: point four percentage of the time sacked when he's attempted
Speaker 1: to pass in twenty nineteen verses eight percent of the
Speaker 1: time in twenty twenty. Is the reason all about the
Speaker 1: offensive line? Is it because Lamar is doing something differently,
Speaker 1: maybe staying in the pocket more. What's the rationalie to
Speaker 1: why maybe he's being sacked more frequently this year? A
Speaker 1: few different factors. The offensive line isn't as good, but
Speaker 1: also what teams are doing. They're playing more zone coverage
Speaker 1: against Lamar Jackson. What you're seeing is when you play
Speaker 1: his own coverage, particularly against athletic quarterbacks, for guys that
Speaker 1: are mobile, you have more eyes on him, so when
Speaker 1: he escapes the pocket, you can run them down quickly.
Speaker 1: When you're a man to man, you make it very
Speaker 1: very easy for them to see it and attack it.
Speaker 1: They go run. They also have easier reads for Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: The reason why you want to play his zone coverage
Speaker 1: and those things. It makes him have to try and
Speaker 1: throw with timing and anticipation, which aren't the strong suits
Speaker 1: to his game. And if he doesn't like what he sees,
Speaker 1: he pauses, he hesitates, He then looks to run, and
Speaker 1: that gives the pass rush more time to get to him.
Speaker 1: So there are a bunch of different factors that are
Speaker 1: kind of contributing to the fact that he has been
Speaker 1: sacked Moore this year. You talked about some of the challenges,
Speaker 1: but what would be some of the most favorable matchup
Speaker 1: that would benefit the Cowboys. Would that come from the
Speaker 1: d line versus the oline that you just talked about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it has to be upfronts. It has to be the
Speaker 1: defensive line being able to really control it. And for
Speaker 1: the rest of the games, it's gonna be about the
Speaker 1: front seven. And so how are they able to handle
Speaker 1: the things up front? The Marcus Lawrence and Alden Smith
Speaker 1: and those guys Randy Gregg. Can they set the edge
Speaker 1: and not allow the running game to get outside? But
Speaker 1: really the most important part of it is the second level,
Speaker 1: Lady Vander asked Jalon Smith. Those guys have to be
Speaker 1: able to get into their gaps. When they're wrong, big
Speaker 1: plays happened. We saw it against the Washington football team.
Speaker 1: We saw the big runs from Antonio Gibson and those things.
Speaker 1: When those guys are not right in terms of where
Speaker 1: they're supposed to insert into the defense, it's problematic. And man,
Speaker 1: you put bad stuff on tape because as good as
Speaker 1: it been going into the Washington football team game in
Speaker 1: terms of the way they played run defense. It was
Speaker 1: all bad. You now put it on tape. Everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: look at what Scott Turner did in terms of the shifting,
Speaker 1: the motioning, the misdirection, and they're gonna get a heavy
Speaker 1: dose of that until they can answer those problems. You're
Speaker 1: gonna continue to see it from everybody going down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Bucky Donovan Wilson. We see the hits, we see the
Speaker 1: big the big plays, the force fumbles. What what is
Speaker 1: he doing on the back end? How would you evaluate
Speaker 1: him as a cover guy? And really, what I'm asking is,
Speaker 1: do you think that he's somebody that Cowboys can be
Speaker 1: excited about moving forward as as a starting safety. I
Speaker 1: think they should be excited about him. I think the
Speaker 1: one thing that he has given him is he's given
Speaker 1: them maybe some jews, some thump and enforcer between the hashes.
Speaker 1: He plays hard, He's a pretty solid tackler, and he
Speaker 1: has made plays. And for defense that hasn't had a
Speaker 1: lot of splash plays, he has been around a ton
Speaker 1: of them, and I think there's something that you certainly
Speaker 1: can build upon. Wh when I look at him in coverage,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some live builds. There canna be some
Speaker 1: things where like safeties are just not It's hard to
Speaker 1: find a safety that can cover and hit and do everything.
Speaker 1: Those guys are your elite players. I wouldn't put him
Speaker 1: in that category, but he's a really good and I
Speaker 1: think they should be excited about him. I'm more concerned
Speaker 1: about the guy that's playing beside him, Xavier Woods. I
Speaker 1: think they have to find an upgrade at that in
Speaker 1: If they could find a better safety to go with
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson, I think I would feel a little better
Speaker 1: about the secondary. Sounds like a topic for the Draft show,
Speaker 1: which Bucky, we can announce that you will be joining
Speaker 1: me on. So that's great. Speaking of which, you know
Speaker 1: the Ravens, I mean and rightfully so, Like the Ravens
Speaker 1: get so much credit for being a great drafting team,
Speaker 1: but I am curious. They've thrown a lot of resources
Speaker 1: at receiver in the last couple of years, and maybe
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, it doesn't seem like it's working terribly well.
Speaker 1: You know, Hollywood Brown out of Oklahoma, they drafted boy
Speaker 1: Can out of Notre Dame, and they doubled up this
Speaker 1: year too, with Devin Duvernet. And James Prochet, but they
Speaker 1: still had to go get Dez Bryant. You know, what's
Speaker 1: the deal with these receivers. I mean, it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like despite their efforts, they haven't found a reliable weapons
Speaker 1: on the outside. They just don't draft wide receivers really well,
Speaker 1: like for whatever reason, going all the way back, and
Speaker 1: I love Ozzy Knewsom, He's a pro. I mean he's
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. I mean he's one of the
Speaker 1: best to ever do it. They just have always had
Speaker 1: a truugh a tough time with wide receivers, going all
Speaker 1: the way back to Travis Taylor and some of the
Speaker 1: other guys, Brochard, Perriman. I mean, they just cannot seem
Speaker 1: to find the guy that works for them. They're better
Speaker 1: dealing with other teams leftovers that they've already seen and
Speaker 1: they can plug and play. I would say the challenge
Speaker 1: that they have now with Hollywood Brown and Dermine and
Speaker 1: person like, they have smaller guys, and when you have
Speaker 1: a quarterback that's not necessarily an accurate guy, you need
Speaker 1: to expand the strike zone, and you expand the strike
Speaker 1: zone with bigger guys. That's why Dez Brian is there.
Speaker 1: Daz can't run like he could run in his prime,
Speaker 1: but he's a big body. He's a bigger target, and
Speaker 1: so when Lamar Jackson is looking to find somebody over
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, he can identify him and
Speaker 1: find him and get it to him. And so that's
Speaker 1: the thing. They just haven't lean into who they are.
Speaker 1: And you have a bit of that rug where you
Speaker 1: have the front office and maybe the coach said, hey,
Speaker 1: we need to spread it out. We spread it out,
Speaker 1: we can play this way. But this team is built
Speaker 1: to play a certain way and they haven't necessarily put
Speaker 1: all the pieces around Lamar Jackson that work for how
Speaker 1: he plays the position. Hey, Bucky, before we let you go,
Speaker 1: I did have a little bit of a bigger picture
Speaker 1: question about the Ravens. They most of their losses this
Speaker 1: year as have been against teams that are really good Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Tennessee. However, they did have that loss to
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and the Patriots, in my opinion this year,
Speaker 1: are a little closer to the Cowboys. So tell me
Speaker 1: what were the Patriots able to do in that game
Speaker 1: to get the win that maybe the Cowboys could possibly
Speaker 1: look at doing this week or next week to win
Speaker 1: against the Ravens. Rain well, it would be something. It
Speaker 1: would be something that we have advocated on this show
Speaker 1: multiple times, but I don't know if the Cowboys are doing.
Speaker 1: The Patriots ran the football and they played a keepaway.
Speaker 1: They slowed the game down. They muddied it because they
Speaker 1: ran the ball and ran the ball and ran the ball.
Speaker 1: It also helped that they had a rainstorm that helped
Speaker 1: them kind of control it, but that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Then defensively, they just did a good job of throwing
Speaker 1: a net around Lamar Jackson. Some of that is playing
Speaker 1: man coverage, some of that is playing zone, but that's
Speaker 1: what they did. But they played complimentary ball. They really
Speaker 1: leaned on the running game to really allow them to
Speaker 1: keep the ball, retained possession, and it put pressure on
Speaker 1: the Ravens to deviate from the style of play that
Speaker 1: they wanted to. That's really what it is, and so
Speaker 1: they can be had. But the problem that you have
Speaker 1: to do is you got to play a certain way
Speaker 1: on each aspect and when the defense plays well, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have a tendency to, hey, let's throw it all
Speaker 1: over the yard or let's do a fake punt when
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense to do a fake punt. I
Speaker 1: mean all of those things, like things that you just
Speaker 1: don't see and I can't really understand what I'm watching
Speaker 1: sometimes and it's frustrating. So if they played complimentary ball,
Speaker 1: they certainly can win, but they have had a tough
Speaker 1: time doing that to this point. All right, Bucky Man,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you taking some time with us today. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have you back tomorrow. We'll talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about the Baltimore defense versus the Cowboys offense. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take our final break and come back. We got some
Speaker 1: questions for these guys, particular to the Baltimore offense versus
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense that when we come right back. This
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Speaker 1: It's starting up this Friday. We will not have our
Speaker 1: normal podcast schedule this Friday because of the game on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is on Friday, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do an hour and a half of Draft talk, and
Speaker 1: we have a whole new lineup. We've got brought us,
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Speaker 1: got Kavanaugh, Katie, and we got Kyle trying to corral
Speaker 1: all those guys. So it's gonna be a really, really
Speaker 1: good time. I'm at very, very excited about what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do this year with the Draft Show. So makes
Speaker 1: you tune in this Friday eleven am. It'll be an
Speaker 1: hour and a half show and they'll start talking you
Speaker 1: guys through some topics around the draft and getting you
Speaker 1: guys ready. There's a lot of college football left to play,
Speaker 1: and so they'll tell you some of the guys you
Speaker 1: might want to keep an eye on down the stretch
Speaker 1: and into the bowl games. So Ambertan that question you
Speaker 1: said about McCarthy, over preparing for games. Maybe doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like you can over prepare for the draft. You can't.
Speaker 1: There's no such thing. Can't get ahead of it. You cannot.
Speaker 1: You absolutely cannot last time, And based upon my timeline
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I don't think that fans think that either.
Speaker 1: I think they're very, very excited. They're ready for it,
Speaker 1: especially this year. The last time the Cowboys were this bad,
Speaker 1: Brian started watching tape the day after Thanksgiving. So we're right,
Speaker 1: We're right where we need to be. This will be fun.
Speaker 1: It'll be a lot of fun, all right. So let's
Speaker 1: I got some questions for you guys, particular to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense and some about the Ravens offense. Let's start
Speaker 1: first with the rushing defense. Baltimore second and rushing in
Speaker 1: the NFL, averaging one hundred and sixty one yards per game.
Speaker 1: Dallas allowed Antonio Gibson in the last game twenty rushes
Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifteen yards of five point eight
Speaker 1: average and three touchdowns. That was coming off a game
Speaker 1: where he it lit him up the last time they
Speaker 1: played as well. What do you guys, what did you
Speaker 1: guys see as the biggest problem last game with the
Speaker 1: run defense? After what they had been doing where it
Speaker 1: seemed like maybe they were starting to turn to corner
Speaker 1: and being able to defend runners. Let's start first with you, Dave.
Speaker 1: The coaching staff faked a punt in their own red
Speaker 1: zone and put them behind the eight ball, and they
Speaker 1: were like, screw this. That's what I think happened because
Speaker 1: they didn't look that bad for the first three and
Speaker 1: a half quarters of that game. I mean, look, this,
Speaker 1: this is a flawed defense. They're not They're never gonna
Speaker 1: be great. We know you are what you are by December.
Speaker 1: But they were, they were doing their thing. They were
Speaker 1: you know, Washington had twenty points and hadn't driven the
Speaker 1: field for like, Nick, you were the one that said there,
Speaker 1: maybe it was you, Derek, Like they had not driven
Speaker 1: the field since the first quarter, and then the fake
Speaker 1: punt happens and Antonio Gibson goes untouched the very next play,
Speaker 1: and then you know, just to hammer at home five
Speaker 1: minutes later, he went untouched from even further away. So
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, but that screams like just mental to me,
Speaker 1: where you're just like like, what are we supposed to do? Why? Like,
Speaker 1: what the hell's going on? That's that's what I think happened.
Speaker 1: I guess I can't prove that I'm right, but I
Speaker 1: mean that's my theory. Well, he had one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifteen yards in the game, and he had sixty of
Speaker 1: it on those two runs in the fourth quarter right
Speaker 1: after that. So yeah, I mean going into the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: it was about fifty yards rushing. Um, I think, Derek,
Speaker 1: I think what the biggest problem was was the what
Speaker 1: they were doing with the backs was getting them out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. I mean that that was you could
Speaker 1: tell early in the game that that mckissic and Gibson
Speaker 1: were going to catch those passes, you know, in the flat.
Speaker 1: They weren't really trying to throw it down the field
Speaker 1: too much. And so you know, that's that's the part
Speaker 1: that I think really kind of messed up the defense,
Speaker 1: the linebackers and all that. But but I agree, I
Speaker 1: just think the bottom dropped out and they just it
Speaker 1: was over at that point. I mean, they just deflated
Speaker 1: this team, de moralize them. It was I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just it was just like the hot air balloon
Speaker 1: and that fake pond was just like the needle right
Speaker 1: at the tops, like it's over, which I feel like
Speaker 1: that's oh sorry, go ahead, a g go ahead, Dave, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just it's it's been a season long trend that
Speaker 1: these things happen in the fourth quarters of games. You know,
Speaker 1: um Kenyan Drake had his seventy yard er, I mean
Speaker 1: that game was out of reach. Fourth quarter, Odell Beckham's
Speaker 1: reverse went fifty yards for a touchdown. That game wasn't
Speaker 1: even out of reach. But for whatever reason, they have
Speaker 1: these lapses late in games. Maybe it's a mental thing,
Speaker 1: maybe they're exhausted. I don't know, but that, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a very real trend that when the game goes
Speaker 1: on they have a pension for giving up these backbreakers.
Speaker 1: Their longest runs are probably in the fourth quarter. I
Speaker 1: would bet my life absolutely. What do you think, aber
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that if you go back and
Speaker 1: watch some of those plays. The thing that I noticed
Speaker 1: from watching back it's that there is a lot of
Speaker 1: confusion within the defense. There is and credit to Washington's
Speaker 1: offense that I thought they did a really nice job,
Speaker 1: but our defense they lack anticipation. And because of that,
Speaker 1: because of that lack of anticipation and vision and predicting
Speaker 1: what's going to happen and keeping an eye on who
Speaker 1: has the ball, it makes you be a step behind.
Speaker 1: And if you go back and watch that, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: always seem to be a few steps behind the Washington offense.
Speaker 1: So it just creates a slower game and therefore you
Speaker 1: can't really catch up to the running back or whoever
Speaker 1: has the ball at the time. So to me, they
Speaker 1: just need to get better at anticipating where the ball
Speaker 1: is going to go and who has the ball so
Speaker 1: that there's no so that there is not as much
Speaker 1: confusion during those kinds of place. Let's talk about Dez
Speaker 1: Bryan a little bit. He was elevated to Baltimore's active
Speaker 1: roster last week. He's played in a couple of games.
Speaker 1: Now for them, what type of challenges as he presented
Speaker 1: this stage of his career. Let's start first with you Amber. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send this question to someone else because I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, I have not been really watching what this
Speaker 1: Brian has been doing. It is when I said, I'll
Speaker 1: say this, I am very impressed at the fact that
Speaker 1: he is where he's at now. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: if you follow him on Twitter, you know how persistent
Speaker 1: he has been in trying to get back on the
Speaker 1: field and back on an NFL team. So it's very
Speaker 1: impressive that he's gotten to this point where he's actually
Speaker 1: on the active roster now and based on what and
Speaker 1: we know, we've seen this Brian, we know what he
Speaker 1: can do, but he is several years have gone by,
Speaker 1: so I do think that the last time I watched
Speaker 1: some of his some of the things that he was doing,
Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily anything that impressed me. It wasn't the
Speaker 1: death Brian that we've been used to share, you know,
Speaker 1: cheering for and being excited about when he was here
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. So he is gonna be a threat
Speaker 1: because he is a skilled player, and I'm hesitant to
Speaker 1: say that he's not gonna be a problem because the
Speaker 1: thing is, we cannot trust Dallas defense, and that's really
Speaker 1: the problem there is I cannot rely on what our
Speaker 1: secondary can do. So therefore any wide receiver can really
Speaker 1: be a threat to your defense. But it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really fun to just watch this whole matchup and see
Speaker 1: him again, and this time playing against the Cowboys. Nick,
Speaker 1: you know, watching some of those videos on Twitter. I
Speaker 1: stopped pretty early in the process there, but I've seen
Speaker 1: some of it, and here like, who who are you
Speaker 1: going up against? I mean some of these guys, He's
Speaker 1: like he was bringing in some of his Twitter followers
Speaker 1: to come in and go up against. That sounds funny.
Speaker 1: But if if Richard Robinson and Savian Smith weren't on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, would they be on the street, I mean
Speaker 1: would they would they be on another team? I mean
Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't be. So he's gonna I mean, I
Speaker 1: think she makes a good point. I mean, who's he
Speaker 1: gonna be facing. He doesn't run routes and you know,
Speaker 1: well right now, I mean never was a strong part
Speaker 1: of his game. I saw some of the Tennessee game
Speaker 1: to the days he just kind of runs around. So
Speaker 1: if a play breaks down and it's just him and
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis in the back of the end zone, yeah,
Speaker 1: I worry about that. I don't think he's necessarily gonna
Speaker 1: just outrun people and and out maneuver them. But if
Speaker 1: it's just a fifty fifty ball against some of these corners,
Speaker 1: yeah he could. If the ball's thrown right, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I would imagine he's he's I would guess he's
Speaker 1: a he's a possession guy now, and I mean we
Speaker 1: don't really know for sure. He's got four catches for
Speaker 1: twenty eight yards since he came back. Also, you know,
Speaker 1: it won't be Lamar today that I just love the
Speaker 1: circumstances of the It's gonna be Dez and Robert Griffin,
Speaker 1: who are I mean, two of the best players to
Speaker 1: come out of Texas in recent memory. And they're not
Speaker 1: those guys anymore clearly so, but I'll be interested to see,
Speaker 1: you know, can RG three get him the ball? Can
Speaker 1: Dez do something with it? If he does? I have
Speaker 1: no idea. Washington hadn't beaten the Cowboys since on Thanksgivings
Speaker 1: Forever twenty twelve, and in the two players in that
Speaker 1: game that were starring were Dez and which actually I
Speaker 1: got in an argument on Twitter the other night because
Speaker 1: I was talking about DK Metcalf reminding me of Dez.
Speaker 1: People were like, oh, he's way more athletic than Daz.
Speaker 1: Was like, go watch Dez a decade ago. Like, I
Speaker 1: feel like people forget because he scored a touchdown from
Speaker 1: about eighty five yards out in that Thanksgiving game where
Speaker 1: he was moving, I mean, he torched the whole defense
Speaker 1: on a and it was like an eight yard reception
Speaker 1: that he took to the house. So so Derek, sorry,
Speaker 1: I know this isn't in your plan. But on the
Speaker 1: in the mail bag this morning, we talked about ranking
Speaker 1: the speed of the eighty eights, and I had a
Speaker 1: hard time because I don't really know about Michael Irvin's
Speaker 1: speak compared to Drew Pearson. But I and I haven't
Speaker 1: even seen ceedee lamb make it big long play. But
Speaker 1: I just got him number one. I went seed des
Speaker 1: Irvin Pearson, Sorry Drew, but Drew even makes fun of
Speaker 1: his own speed, So I don't know I speed, I've
Speaker 1: never seen. I've only ever seen Drew Pearson highlights. Obviously
Speaker 1: I was getting by people. Yeah, well it was nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy fight. That's why I would say. That's why I
Speaker 1: would probably put Mike Glass. You put Pierson, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: and yeah, obviously I'm biased based on what I have
Speaker 1: a scene I've I've covered two of them, and I've
Speaker 1: only ever watched the other two on on highlights. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember a very small amount of Mike's career from
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I'm take I'll take the
Speaker 1: prime des over all of them, Like twenty ten, twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, Brian London, London de London des is better
Speaker 1: than Odell. You're not You're not catching twenty two year
Speaker 1: old DEAs. I mean he was. He was explosive. I
Speaker 1: feel like the R two like speed that That was
Speaker 1: the fastest I've ever seen him. That took my breath
Speaker 1: away too. It was that game was remarkable. It was
Speaker 1: a ten yard crossing route and man, you would have
Speaker 1: thought somebody could get an angle on him and it
Speaker 1: was next thing you know, he's in the end like
Speaker 1: a Sonic the Hedgehog, just like little yeah, I'll yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take a prime which but I mean, but that's
Speaker 1: not Desert like you know, their sonic And he's running
Speaker 1: and he does that little you know where you like
Speaker 1: a little ball and you're like, well, yeah, I got it,
Speaker 1: I got I had a Sega, I would I'm gonna guess.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess. Dez Is. They're basically like Dez We're
Speaker 1: gonna run. You know, it's either a fade or a
Speaker 1: go or a go. Maybe a hitch. Yeah, Like he
Speaker 1: can run eight yards, box out Jordan Lewis and go
Speaker 1: up for the ball still I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: gonna take over the game, but he can definitely do that.
Speaker 1: He's gonna try. He's gonna be at Lamarck since that's
Speaker 1: the other thing too. Man, you know, he wants he
Speaker 1: no doubt he wants that bad. I mean he'll he'll probably.
Speaker 1: He always says winning is what he cares about. So like,
Speaker 1: if he catches two balls for twelve yards and they win,
Speaker 1: he'll probably be happy. But he'll be way happier if
Speaker 1: he's got, you know, a lot to do with with
Speaker 1: why they went. I hope Sean I hope he's over
Speaker 1: the middle for Sean Lee. You know, let's not forget
Speaker 1: he called, you know, Snake Lee. That's that. It seems
Speaker 1: like even that feels like ancient history. Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be fun. Yeah, But that's also why I think that's
Speaker 1: also why I think he'll be a threat in the
Speaker 1: red zone is because that's something I think he does
Speaker 1: still possess in him and uh and that's an area
Speaker 1: where he can make a different Yeah, that's a different
Speaker 1: place where he can make Okay, that place where he
Speaker 1: can make a difference, uh and and score some points
Speaker 1: for them, And it's good for him. It's good for them.
Speaker 1: I think that's an area that you could possibly see
Speaker 1: this or next Tuesday. All Right, we appreciate you guys
Speaker 1: joining us. It sucks. Yeah yeah, sorry, yeah yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: mask up. Let's get back in here as a group,
Speaker 1: as a team. Dude. I'll be back. I'll be back
Speaker 1: on Monday. I'll be back on Monday. I just have
Speaker 1: to do this this week. I'll be back Monday, Monday,
Speaker 1: all right, so until tomorrow. We will be back on tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about the ball to more
Speaker 1: defense versus the Cowboys offense. That's a really good defense
Speaker 1: over there, but we'll talk about that tomorrow. Till then.
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