1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, December second, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, Episode 8 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: number seventy three. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, 9 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: presented by Geico Live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios 10 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: at the Star. We got Dave and Nick at the Star. 11 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: They are in the studio, myself and Amber. We're at 12 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: our home studios, and we got forty five minutes of 13 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys Talk here for you guys. Today. We're gonna have 14 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks joining us here in a moment. He's going 15 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: to talk to us about the Baltimore offense versus the 16 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Dallas defense. We'll have some questions for these guys about 17 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: the Dallas Dallas defense versus the Baltimore offense, and maybe 18 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: even hopefully get to a question or two there. Towards 19 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: the end of the show. We're gonna turn over first 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: though to Nick and Dave in studio. Mike McCarthy had 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: his press conference this morning ten thirty. It's been a 22 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: little while since he's met with the media. What do 23 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: you have to talk about today, Nick, Well, I mean 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: he basically talked about just how unique this schedule is 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: and how he uh, you know, he looks at it 26 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: as he's got like the a positive vibe about it 27 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: that you know, this is unique that they get the 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: chance to to practice, like get a chance to evaluate 29 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: the team they're playing in the middle of their of 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: their installation in practice week. So you know, he's he's 31 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: not looking at it as a negative. He's he's got 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: some you know, positivity vibes there. And and Dave, I know, 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: he talked a little bit about injuries as well, but 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean it just sounded like he was kind of 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: relieved and kind of get back on the field. Well, yeah, 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: what I keep thinking about is you remember, like we 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: used to make fun of Jason Garrett for being like 38 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: it's Wednesday, it's Thursday, Like today's today's our Friday. Like 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: I need that right now, like I need I need 40 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of structure in my life. So I 41 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: appreciate Mike McCarthy, I mean, it's been so weird. So 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: they I mean, they play Thursday, and the expectation is 43 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: you're going to go right back into a game week 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: for a Thursday game. Obviously, that hasn't been the case. 45 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: The game's been moved two or three times, and so 46 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: they're coming off basically what was a half bye week, 47 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: but now it's kind of a short week. And another 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: big thing Mike McCarthy talked about is the memorial service 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: for Mark Marcus Paul is going to be tomorrow. It 50 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: sounds like the team's gonna watch that virtually. You know, 51 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: they can't all go to the church with COVID obviously, 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: so they're gonna watch it virtually. And that's so it's 53 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: kind of built into their game week where yeah, I 54 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: mean this is some Monday, it's on it kind of 55 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: it's like a Monday, but it's also a Wednesday, like 56 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: they're going through an install. This is an install day 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: where they kind of have their game plan for Baltimore. 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: They know what they want to do, but when practice 59 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: is over, they're going to go watch the game together 60 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: and just sort of get a feel for what Baltimore 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: looks like. Right now, I guess maybe try to get 62 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: a feel for how many of those guys are even 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: going to be able to play, because I think the 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: Ravens only have thirty eight players on their roster right now, 65 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: and so then Tomorrow is sort of like they're going 66 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: to do a little bit of work, but it's kind 67 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: of a day off to commemorate Marcus Paul. And then 68 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: Friday you really get into the swing of like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 69 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: where you're really, you know, gearing up for the game. 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: So all of I just said all of that and 71 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: just confused myself. Honestly, it's this is weird. Sorry, what's up? Hey, Hey, 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: Dave and Nick, I'll ask you as a question, Aimber 73 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: you can chime in this too, but like, how much 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: do you think that they can really glean from that 75 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: game that's going to happen this afternoon with Baltimore and 76 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh because of the fact that Dave, as you said, 77 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: so many of their guys are out and so many 78 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: of their big players players that will make a difference 79 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: it's in the game against the Cowboys. How much you 80 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: think they can actually get from watching that game together? 81 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you asked me that, because I 82 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: asked Mike McCarthy that, So I'm glad that we're on 83 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: the same page, you know, I was, as usual, it's weird, Yeah, right, 84 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: it's weird because I mean, by this point in the week, 85 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: you've already put your plan together and that's you know, Mike, 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: Mike said that. He was like, you know, we've we've 87 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: already done a lot of that. We know how we 88 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: want to attack, we know what we want to do. 89 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: But I think this game you can glean you know, 90 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: what personnel do they have, who are they using, what 91 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: do the snap counts look like, who's available? And then 92 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: obviously you got to keep an eye on guys that 93 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: might become available. You know, I would guess Lamar Jackson's 94 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: not going to play today, but he will very likely 95 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: be available against against Dallas, which that's Nick's that's Nick 96 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: one oh one, right, there's well, there's no other reasons. 97 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: There's no other reason. They haven't come up with another reason. 98 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: There's no reason why they've moved the game from when 99 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: from Monday to Tuesday other than to get more players 100 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: in there, maybe a raining MVP. I mean, because it 101 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: makes no sense. It hurts the Cowboys even more. And 102 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: I didn't say this yesterday, but when I found out 103 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: that the Ravens play on Monday night the following week, 104 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: like that pissed me off, But it didn't piss anybody 105 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: else off. I mean, Jerry wants to play on national TV. 106 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: You're not subject to league discipline if you question it either. 107 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like Mike McCarthy or Jerry Jones could get 108 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: a fat envelope from FedEx if they say something like that, 109 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: I would just, you know, I would just ask the question. 110 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: I mean why, I mean, why, why why are we moving? 111 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: Why are we moving a game? Why are you giving 112 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens six games six days between each of their 113 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: games and the Cowboys get four and five? Why? I'm 114 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: just is it because Lamar is he because he's on 115 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: the cover of Madden? If so, just tell me it's 116 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: an interesting thought, and it's certainly you know, I know 117 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of arguments. You know, the Denver 118 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: game didn't get called off because they felt that they 119 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: had you know, they had contained that and it was 120 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: really just the quarterbacks. Whereas this is an ongoing outbreak 121 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: with Baltimore where I think for ten straight days they 122 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: had at least one positive test and you can't play 123 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: the game until you have your hands around it. But 124 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: at the same like, it's hard, it's hard to parse 125 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: out the real rhyme and reason to it. All you saw. 126 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: It was similar with Tennessee All you know back in October, 127 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: the links that the league went to. I don't want 128 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: to say to protect them, but to but more or less, Yeah, 129 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of how it feels. So yeah, I don't 130 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't really understand why this game couldn't be happening 131 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: on Monday, other than if not for what you're saying, 132 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: then maybe just to keep the TV schedule from being 133 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: too crowded. But that seems focused to me. Yeah, that, 134 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: and it may not even be TV schedule being crowded. 135 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: It may be a situation literally where you start talking 136 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: to the networks and the networks are saying, hey, we 137 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: don't have a spot for this, we can't put this 138 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: on television Tuesday. We could put it on at this 139 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: time and it would work, right. So those are the 140 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: put things that we don't know. But I agree with 141 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: you Nick, overall, we just look at it from the surface, 142 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: it seems a little curious that they would make the 143 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: decision to move it to Tuesday versus Monday, because you know, 144 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: it's a five day lead time for for Baltimore coming 145 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: from a Wednesday game to a Monday game, and that's 146 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: the exact number of days that the Cowboys are going 147 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: to have going from a Tuesday to a Sunday. So 148 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: you would think it's it's possible. I just again, there 149 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: may be some things under the surface that we just 150 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: don't know about this. I don't have I'm not chiming 151 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: in on this subject because I really don't have any 152 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: input in the whole situation. There are many things that 153 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: the league is doing that I don't understand. I know 154 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: that Dave has been talking about the whole thing of 155 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: why not make a week eighteen, and there's a lot 156 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: of questions around that whole aspect. But my best thinks 157 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: are what I think about is I'm hoping that the 158 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: NFL is just doing their best to for everyone, just 159 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: mutually everyone and trying to figure this out. There are 160 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: so many moving elements, so many different things that go 161 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: into place that I wouldn't want to be in their positions. 162 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure this is a very tough decision. 163 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot of money involved, and we know that 164 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: money is what drives everything, and we just don't know 165 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: as much as they do as far as having to 166 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: handle so many different factors and elements, which I will 167 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: say this too. I mean, oh, I'm sorry, Derek. I 168 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: just maybe Mike McCarthy. Maybe McCarthy's really pissed off about 169 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: this in private. I mean, all football coaches are always 170 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: pissed off about everything that affects their team, so he 171 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: probably is. But I just my attitude and maybe maybe 172 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: it's his too, is like in a situation like this, 173 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: go all the way back to August, this is what 174 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: you were worried about, playing a season in a pandemic 175 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: like they made through training camp because you're not dealing 176 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: with other teams. And then the first few weeks is 177 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: one thing, but like now we're into the depths of 178 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: this where like flu season's part of it, the novelty 179 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: is worn off, so you got a guard even harder 180 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: against doing things the right way because you know some 181 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens are in this situation because somebody 182 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: on their staff let their guard down. And so my 183 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: attitude is just like, whatever we got to do to 184 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: get these last four weeks of the season and let's 185 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: let's just do it. I mean, I agree with you 186 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: guys for sure on that. All I'm saying is is that, yeah, 187 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: if you know is John Harball, is he quiet about it? 188 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he voices his displeasure on everything, and and 189 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: here here they are. It's almost seems like the NFL's 190 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: kind of catering to it a little bit. So it's 191 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: that whole squeaky wheel gets the grease a little bit. 192 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: But you know, at some point, you know, just just 193 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: ask the question. That's all I'm saying. It's just like 194 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: I would like to know the answer. But hey, if 195 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: Jerry's not upset and McCarthy's not upset, I shouldn't be. 196 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, I mean, it didn't it's fine 197 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: TOI football great, I mean yeah. And the fact the 198 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: fact is they may have already asked the question, right, 199 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: They may have asked the question and gotten an answer 200 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: and they're like, huh, I don't like it, but I 201 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: see why you made the decision. And maybe that's why 202 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: publicly they're not as upset about this as as as 203 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: we all seem to be. But you know, again, there 204 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: are lots of moving parts, and I agree with you, 205 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: Dave at this point, I think the NFL is trying 206 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: to do whatever they can to cross the finish line 207 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: on this season. They in my opinion, have done a 208 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: really great job from the standpoint that when you're dealing 209 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: with thirty two teams that have upwards of sixty people, 210 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: sixty players and then other people involved that are all 211 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: having to be a part of this to be able 212 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: to have to go through a season where they've had 213 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: what maybe I think there's been a total of three 214 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: or four games that have had to be rescheduled, and 215 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: you look at college football where they're canceling games and 216 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: rescheduling games every week. It's I think an amazing job. Yeah, 217 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: I think it's been an amazing job by the NFL 218 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: and what they've been able to do, And really it 219 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: speaks to the level of care that the players and 220 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the staffs have have had to take in trying to 221 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,479 Speaker 1: do the right things and try to mitigate their exposure. 222 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, I've never run a marathon before at all, 223 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: or even close to that, Derek. I know you've run 224 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: some or half marathon, but I can imagine it if 225 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: you're you know, twenty six point two, twenty six point 226 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: two the whole, and you gets about nineteen or twenty 227 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: and someone tells you, hey, by the way, we're just 228 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: moving it up to twenty seven. You have to run 229 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: twenty seven miles, Like that's kind of what it feels 230 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: like here, like week eighteen Like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 231 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: seventeen weeks only. Great, that's a really great analogy about it. 232 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: That way. I'm bad about thirty percent on my analogies. 233 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: Some are really bad, some are okay. Put you in 234 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame if you're a baseball player. Anyway, 235 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: So I'm guessing there will be some fights. If someone 236 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: in a marathon decided they were going to add an 237 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: extra mile to that, even just an ole a mile, 238 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: it'd probably be a couple of fights. I might break 239 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: out with people a little bit unhappy with that. Let 240 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: me know, okay, because I won't be in that conversation. 241 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: Let me know if that ever happens. Other than, hey, Michael, 242 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: party have anything to say about juries? Now that's I 243 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: was just gonna say, not really. I mean, we know 244 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: we know Cam Irving and Zach Martin aren't going to 245 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: be available. I don't I don't get the impression that 246 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: either one of them is going to I R. I think, 247 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, Mike said maybe a couple of weeks for 248 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: Zach and maybe more quickly than Cam for Cam. So 249 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, San Francisco or Philly for Zach 250 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: maybe and maybe maybe um Cincinnati or San Francisco for Cam. 251 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: That's just a guess, but it doesn't sound like either 252 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: one of them's going I R. Here's the interesting thing. 253 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: It's three weeks. It's three games, right, so if you 254 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: put them on IR, it goes all the way. The 255 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: game didn't even start until Baltimore, so like, yeah, that's 256 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: the first game, right, so sore. I mean, at this 257 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: point in the year, you're kind of shutting them down 258 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: if you do that, which maybe they should, and I 259 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna make those decisions based on what happens, like 260 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: if they lose to Baltimore. I mean, let's say Zach 261 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: can come back against San Francisco. If they lose to 262 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: Baltimore and Cincinnati, yeah, I mean, I don't know if 263 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: it's worth it at that point, but we'll see when 264 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: we get there. I guess. Yeah. I think what will 265 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: be more important is what's happening with those other NFC 266 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: East teams if they're also losing, then maybe they look 267 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: at it and they're like, huh, we're still in this right. 268 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: So that's the craziness of this season for the NFC 269 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: East is no matter who's winning around the league, the 270 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: NFC East tends to not win, which keeps all the 271 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: teams in the middle of the hunt to win the division. 272 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: We're gonna take our first break a little early. Go ahead, Dave. 273 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm loving how the delay versus the non delay. It's 274 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: really nice being in the studio. You're not wrong. I 275 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: was just I was just gonna joke that, you know, 276 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: a month or a month or six weeks ago, we 277 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: were like, no, seven, seven or eight wins might do it, 278 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: and then now it's like five or six wins might 279 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: do it. Like three weeks from now, it's like, shoot, 280 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: whoever can get that fourth one? Well, a couple of 281 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: them already do. But I mean, I'm just bracing myself 282 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: for a five and eleven playoff team. That would be insane. 283 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: I got five on it better. Yet, all the sudden, 284 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: Jason's all the sudden Jason's eight and eight doesn't sound 285 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: too bad. Oh, my god, I didn't have a parade. 286 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: If hit eight and eight, like, I mean, that's a 287 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: five game winning streak. Let's go. It's if this sale 288 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: goes to eight and eight and a baby, oh man, 289 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: love it. You never know. We're gonna take our first 290 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: break when we come back. We got Bucky Brooks lined up. 291 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna talk to us about the Baltimore offense versus 292 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: this Dallas defense with that when we come right back. 293 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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And I just hey, but 337 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: I will say this though the VIC twelve, I mean 338 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: the Longhorn basketball team, keep an eye on him. Stop, 339 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: keep an eye on him. We might we might restore 340 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: some Don't tell me to stop. That's the only good 341 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: thing I've had come out of my college program in 342 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: a long time. Maybe y'all Campbell, after the season's over, 343 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: herban my year. Now lord, all right, let's go on. 344 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: We gotta have Bucky Brooks joining us. We got Bucky 345 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: Brooks joining us from NFL Network, Bucky, let's talk a 346 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: little Baltimore offense versus Dallas defense. We're gonna start with 347 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: the guy that makes it all work, Lamar Jackson. He 348 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: was reigning MVP of the league last year, as we 349 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: all know, but he seems to be a little less 350 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: potent in twenty twenty than he was in two thousand nineteen. 351 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: His quarterback rating then was one hundred and thirteen point three, 352 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: this year's ninety three point four. Um, what do you 353 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: think has been the biggest difference between Lamar Jackson last 354 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: year and Lamar Jackson this year? There are a couple 355 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: of different things that are impacting Lamar Jackson. He's been 356 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: a little off his game after playing at the MVP level. 357 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: He certainly has and continue to play that way. But 358 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: I would say it's a combination of the offensive line 359 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: struggles similar to the Dallas Cowboys, They've had a lot 360 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: of moving pieces and moving parts on the offensive line 361 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: that has impacted the way that they've been able to 362 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: run the football. And then it's play called Greg Roman. 363 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: Greg Roman has kind of changed a little bit of 364 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: what they do offensively. They've gone away from some of 365 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: the run heavy sets they really created a ton of 366 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: problems a season ago, and they tried to spread it 367 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: out and open it up and put more athletes on 368 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: the field. And what that has done is that has 369 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: allowed the defense to have a more athletic defense, a 370 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: faster defense than they've done, a better job of containing them. 371 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: And then finally, when you look at the way they 372 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: run their passing game, Lamar Jackson is a guy that 373 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 1: doesn't throw the ball really well outside the numbers. For 374 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: whatever reason, they continue to try and throw the ball 375 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: outside the numbers and do some things that don't really 376 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: play to these strimps as a playmaker. Bucky. Intoday's press conference, 377 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: McCarthy said something that made me scratch my head. He 378 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: said something like, you don't want to over prepare for games, 379 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: and given the current circumstances, I mean, is there such 380 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: thing as that can you really over prepare for this game? Yeah? 381 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: I think what you try to guard against is when 382 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: you have a lot of time leading up into a game, 383 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: you don't want to kind of give your players too 384 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: much information because then what happens is a little paralysis 385 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: by analysis. And so typically what you want to do 386 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: is you want to keep things as close to your 387 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: normal schedule as possible, and so the first couple of 388 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: days may have been let's just have regular practice, let's 389 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: just work on footwork and fundamentals and technique, and will 390 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: slowly implement a game plan. Also, because the Ravens are 391 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: playing today, you don't know who's going to be available, 392 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: so you don't want to put a lot of energy 393 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: and effort until you kind of figure out, Okay, who 394 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: are they going to have available, what will it look like? 395 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: Because they really won't get a lot out of this game. 396 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: RG three is not going to play, and so the 397 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: way they play Pittsburgh, you just don't know. So you 398 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: just want to kind of wait and see and see 399 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: what it looks like coming out of this game and 400 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: then put together a game plan after that. That's why 401 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to over prepared, because you don't want 402 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: to waste a lot of time defending things that you 403 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: won't ultimately see on game day. That I was like, Dave, 404 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: go hey, Bucky tight Ends that you know, we've seen 405 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: Kelsey Kittle there. Like two of the best is Mark Andrews, 406 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: and he's on the list too, but I mean he's 407 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna play. I'm sure so Mark Andrews. Where does he 408 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: rank on your tight end lists? He's not one of 409 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: those guys. I think he's the benefitiary if you're playing 410 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: in the system that really creates opportunities for the quarter 411 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: for the tight end to get open on play action. 412 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is also very comfortable throwing down the middle 413 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: of the field, and so the play action passing in 414 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: today utilize. Mark Andrews is the star. He's also a 415 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: bigger target, and so they have him. But if we 416 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: were to stack him up, if we were playing in 417 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: the backyard and you told me of all the tight 418 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: ends to pick, he certainly wouldn't be one of those 419 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: guys because he's not necessarily special in any area. Um. 420 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: He is a solid tight end, but he doesn't have 421 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: dynamic or a level playmaking skills in a ton of 422 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: different ways where you put him up there with Kelsey 423 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: and Kittle and some of the other ones. Will he 424 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: be a problem though for this for this defense though, 425 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: because I mean we've seen you've seen those linebackers trying 426 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: to cover. That's really what I'm asking is this defense. 427 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now they we're talking about playing against the Cowboys. 428 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: That is to be sorry, I'll just get to the point. 429 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: It could be it could be a problem if Jalen 430 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: is forced to check him and they're unable to deal 431 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: with the running game. Yes, it can be problematic. I 432 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: think the big thing has been the deception. And I 433 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: will say this after they get their hands on the 434 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: Washington tape and all the blur motion and the misdirection 435 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: and deception that the Washington football team was able to do. 436 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: That really created some problems in terms of making the 437 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: linebackers pause and who do I have and where do 438 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: we line up? You will see a lot of that 439 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: because Baltimore kind of introduced a lot of that into 440 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: the league, this unique offense that they were running with 441 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. So now with Mark Andrews being able to 442 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: get down the field and get to the seam, yes, 443 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: it could be problematic because if the discipline isn't there, 444 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: with the eye discipline from the linebackers, they could be 445 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: big problems down the field the passing game for Mark 446 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: Andrews and others. How are they coping without Ronnie Stanley 447 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, one of the top two 448 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: or three tackle duos in the league. I mean are 449 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: they are they handling it or or what's the biggest difference. 450 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: You know, without him in the lineup, they're struggling. They're 451 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: struggling up front. The reason why the Ravens haven't been 452 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: the juggernaut offensively that we saw a year ago is 453 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: because the offensive line is completely different. When you remove 454 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley, you move Orlando Brown over the left tackle, 455 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: and he's simply not the same player. And then the 456 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: bigger problem is not Brown playing, is you move DJ 457 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: Flucker out the right tackle and he just does not 458 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: have defeat and so that offense is not being able 459 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: to move. The last four games, they've been outrushed by 460 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: their opponent. That's something that we never would think about 461 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: with the Baltimore Ravens. So it's a huge problem. It's 462 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: a huge issue, and it's one of those things that 463 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys maybe may be able to exploit because they're 464 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: really not good up front right now and that's been 465 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: their biggest issue looking at that and this could be 466 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: an offshoot of that question a bit. But teams have 467 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: sacked Lamar Jackson more frequently this year than last five 468 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: point four percentage of the time sacked when he's attempted 469 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: to pass in twenty nineteen verses eight percent of the 470 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: time in twenty twenty. Is the reason all about the 471 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: offensive line? Is it because Lamar is doing something differently, 472 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: maybe staying in the pocket more. What's the rationalie to 473 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: why maybe he's being sacked more frequently this year? A 474 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: few different factors. The offensive line isn't as good, but 475 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: also what teams are doing. They're playing more zone coverage 476 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: against Lamar Jackson. What you're seeing is when you play 477 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: his own coverage, particularly against athletic quarterbacks, for guys that 478 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: are mobile, you have more eyes on him, so when 479 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: he escapes the pocket, you can run them down quickly. 480 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: When you're a man to man, you make it very 481 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: very easy for them to see it and attack it. 482 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: They go run. They also have easier reads for Lamar Jackson. 483 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: The reason why you want to play his zone coverage 484 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: and those things. It makes him have to try and 485 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: throw with timing and anticipation, which aren't the strong suits 486 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: to his game. And if he doesn't like what he sees, 487 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: he pauses, he hesitates, He then looks to run, and 488 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: that gives the pass rush more time to get to him. 489 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: So there are a bunch of different factors that are 490 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of contributing to the fact that he has been 491 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: sacked Moore this year. You talked about some of the challenges, 492 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: but what would be some of the most favorable matchup 493 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: that would benefit the Cowboys. Would that come from the 494 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: d line versus the oline that you just talked about. Yeah, 495 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: it has to be upfronts. It has to be the 496 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: defensive line being able to really control it. And for 497 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: the rest of the games, it's gonna be about the 498 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: front seven. And so how are they able to handle 499 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: the things up front? The Marcus Lawrence and Alden Smith 500 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: and those guys Randy Gregg. Can they set the edge 501 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: and not allow the running game to get outside? But 502 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: really the most important part of it is the second level, 503 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: Lady Vander asked Jalon Smith. Those guys have to be 504 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: able to get into their gaps. When they're wrong, big 505 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: plays happened. We saw it against the Washington football team. 506 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: We saw the big runs from Antonio Gibson and those things. 507 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: When those guys are not right in terms of where 508 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: they're supposed to insert into the defense, it's problematic. And man, 509 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: you put bad stuff on tape because as good as 510 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: it been going into the Washington football team game in 511 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: terms of the way they played run defense. It was 512 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: all bad. You now put it on tape. Everyone's gonna 513 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: look at what Scott Turner did in terms of the shifting, 514 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: the motioning, the misdirection, and they're gonna get a heavy 515 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: dose of that until they can answer those problems. You're 516 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: gonna continue to see it from everybody going down the stretch. 517 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: Bucky Donovan Wilson. We see the hits, we see the 518 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: big the big plays, the force fumbles. What what is 519 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: he doing on the back end? How would you evaluate 520 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: him as a cover guy? And really, what I'm asking is, 521 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: do you think that he's somebody that Cowboys can be 522 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: excited about moving forward as as a starting safety. I 523 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: think they should be excited about him. I think the 524 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: one thing that he has given him is he's given 525 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: them maybe some jews, some thump and enforcer between the hashes. 526 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: He plays hard, He's a pretty solid tackler, and he 527 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: has made plays. And for defense that hasn't had a 528 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: lot of splash plays, he has been around a ton 529 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: of them, and I think there's something that you certainly 530 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: can build upon. Wh when I look at him in coverage, 531 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some live builds. There canna be some 532 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: things where like safeties are just not It's hard to 533 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: find a safety that can cover and hit and do everything. 534 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: Those guys are your elite players. I wouldn't put him 535 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: in that category, but he's a really good and I 536 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: think they should be excited about him. I'm more concerned 537 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: about the guy that's playing beside him, Xavier Woods. I 538 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: think they have to find an upgrade at that in 539 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: If they could find a better safety to go with 540 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson, I think I would feel a little better 541 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: about the secondary. Sounds like a topic for the Draft show, 542 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: which Bucky, we can announce that you will be joining 543 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: me on. So that's great. Speaking of which, you know 544 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: the Ravens, I mean and rightfully so, Like the Ravens 545 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: get so much credit for being a great drafting team, 546 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: but I am curious. They've thrown a lot of resources 547 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: at receiver in the last couple of years, and maybe 548 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, it doesn't seem like it's working terribly well. 549 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: You know, Hollywood Brown out of Oklahoma, they drafted boy 550 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: Can out of Notre Dame, and they doubled up this 551 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: year too, with Devin Duvernet. And James Prochet, but they 552 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: still had to go get Dez Bryant. You know, what's 553 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: the deal with these receivers. I mean, it doesn't seem 554 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 1: like despite their efforts, they haven't found a reliable weapons 555 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: on the outside. They just don't draft wide receivers really well, 556 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: like for whatever reason, going all the way back, and 557 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: I love Ozzy Knewsom, He's a pro. I mean he's 558 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. I mean he's one of the 559 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: best to ever do it. They just have always had 560 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: a truugh a tough time with wide receivers, going all 561 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: the way back to Travis Taylor and some of the 562 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: other guys, Brochard, Perriman. I mean, they just cannot seem 563 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: to find the guy that works for them. They're better 564 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: dealing with other teams leftovers that they've already seen and 565 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: they can plug and play. I would say the challenge 566 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: that they have now with Hollywood Brown and Dermine and 567 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: person like, they have smaller guys, and when you have 568 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback that's not necessarily an accurate guy, you need 569 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: to expand the strike zone, and you expand the strike 570 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: zone with bigger guys. That's why Dez Brian is there. 571 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: Daz can't run like he could run in his prime, 572 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: but he's a big body. He's a bigger target, and 573 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: so when Lamar Jackson is looking to find somebody over 574 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: the middle of the field, he can identify him and 575 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: find him and get it to him. And so that's 576 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: the thing. They just haven't lean into who they are. 577 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: And you have a bit of that rug where you 578 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: have the front office and maybe the coach said, hey, 579 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: we need to spread it out. We spread it out, 580 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: we can play this way. But this team is built 581 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: to play a certain way and they haven't necessarily put 582 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: all the pieces around Lamar Jackson that work for how 583 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: he plays the position. Hey, Bucky, before we let you go, 584 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: I did have a little bit of a bigger picture 585 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: question about the Ravens. They most of their losses this 586 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: year as have been against teams that are really good Pittsburgh, 587 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Tennessee. However, they did have that loss to 588 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots, and the Patriots, in my opinion this year, 589 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: are a little closer to the Cowboys. So tell me 590 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: what were the Patriots able to do in that game 591 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: to get the win that maybe the Cowboys could possibly 592 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: look at doing this week or next week to win 593 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: against the Ravens. Rain well, it would be something. It 594 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: would be something that we have advocated on this show 595 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: multiple times, but I don't know if the Cowboys are doing. 596 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: The Patriots ran the football and they played a keepaway. 597 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: They slowed the game down. They muddied it because they 598 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: ran the ball and ran the ball and ran the ball. 599 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: It also helped that they had a rainstorm that helped 600 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: them kind of control it, but that's what it is. 601 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: Then defensively, they just did a good job of throwing 602 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: a net around Lamar Jackson. Some of that is playing 603 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: man coverage, some of that is playing zone, but that's 604 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: what they did. But they played complimentary ball. They really 605 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: leaned on the running game to really allow them to 606 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: keep the ball, retained possession, and it put pressure on 607 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens to deviate from the style of play that 608 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to. That's really what it is, and so 609 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: they can be had. But the problem that you have 610 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: to do is you got to play a certain way 611 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: on each aspect and when the defense plays well, the 612 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys have a tendency to, hey, let's throw it all 613 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: over the yard or let's do a fake punt when 614 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense to do a fake punt. I 615 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: mean all of those things, like things that you just 616 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: don't see and I can't really understand what I'm watching 617 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: sometimes and it's frustrating. So if they played complimentary ball, 618 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: they certainly can win, but they have had a tough 619 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: time doing that to this point. 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He's on the team? 666 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: Well but is okay? Yeah? I don't know, I would imagine. 667 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: I would imagine, yes, probably Dak or yeah he's on 668 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: there's CD. Yeah, I mean, I hope they don't update 669 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: it that much where it's like, sorry, guys, it's just 670 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: the new G this week. That'd be pretty good if 671 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: you could do the photo and Dak is like on 672 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: his little scooter or something. I don't know, maybe you 673 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: never know. That actually would be pretty cool. Yeah, Hey, 674 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: real quick. Dave mentioned it a little earlier in passing, 675 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: but we didn't make an announcement yesterday about the Draft Show. 676 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: It's starting up this Friday. We will not have our 677 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: normal podcast schedule this Friday because of the game on Tuesday. 678 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is on Friday, we're gonna 679 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: do an hour and a half of Draft talk, and 680 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: we have a whole new lineup. We've got brought us, 681 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: We've got Brugloo, We've got Brooks, We've got Hellman, we've 682 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: got Kavanaugh, Katie, and we got Kyle trying to corral 683 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: all those guys. So it's gonna be a really, really 684 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: good time. I'm at very, very excited about what we're 685 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: gonna do this year with the Draft Show. So makes 686 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: you tune in this Friday eleven am. It'll be an 687 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: hour and a half show and they'll start talking you 688 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: guys through some topics around the draft and getting you 689 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: guys ready. There's a lot of college football left to play, 690 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: and so they'll tell you some of the guys you 691 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: might want to keep an eye on down the stretch 692 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: and into the bowl games. So Ambertan that question you 693 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: said about McCarthy, over preparing for games. Maybe doesn't sound 694 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: like you can over prepare for the draft. You can't. 695 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: There's no such thing. Can't get ahead of it. You cannot. 696 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: You absolutely cannot last time, And based upon my timeline 697 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: on Twitter, I don't think that fans think that either. 698 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: I think they're very, very excited. They're ready for it, 699 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: especially this year. The last time the Cowboys were this bad, 700 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: Brian started watching tape the day after Thanksgiving. So we're right, 701 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: We're right where we need to be. This will be fun. 702 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: It'll be a lot of fun, all right. So let's 703 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: I got some questions for you guys, particular to the 704 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense and some about the Ravens offense. Let's start 705 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: first with the rushing defense. Baltimore second and rushing in 706 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: the NFL, averaging one hundred and sixty one yards per game. 707 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: Dallas allowed Antonio Gibson in the last game twenty rushes 708 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifteen yards of five point eight 709 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: average and three touchdowns. That was coming off a game 710 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: where he it lit him up the last time they 711 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: played as well. What do you guys, what did you 712 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: guys see as the biggest problem last game with the 713 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: run defense? After what they had been doing where it 714 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: seemed like maybe they were starting to turn to corner 715 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: and being able to defend runners. Let's start first with you, Dave. 716 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: The coaching staff faked a punt in their own red 717 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: zone and put them behind the eight ball, and they 718 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: were like, screw this. That's what I think happened because 719 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: they didn't look that bad for the first three and 720 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: a half quarters of that game. I mean, look, this, 721 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: this is a flawed defense. They're not They're never gonna 722 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: be great. We know you are what you are by December. 723 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: But they were, they were doing their thing. They were 724 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, Washington had twenty points and hadn't driven the 725 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: field for like, Nick, you were the one that said there, 726 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: maybe it was you, Derek, Like they had not driven 727 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: the field since the first quarter, and then the fake 728 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: punt happens and Antonio Gibson goes untouched the very next play, 729 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: and then you know, just to hammer at home five 730 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: minutes later, he went untouched from even further away. So 731 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, but that screams like just mental to me, 732 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: where you're just like like, what are we supposed to do? Why? Like, 733 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: what the hell's going on? That's that's what I think happened. 734 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: I guess I can't prove that I'm right, but I 735 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: mean that's my theory. Well, he had one hundred and 736 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: fifteen yards in the game, and he had sixty of 737 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: it on those two runs in the fourth quarter right 738 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 1: after that. So yeah, I mean going into the fourth quarter, 739 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: it was about fifty yards rushing. Um, I think, Derek, 740 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: I think what the biggest problem was was the what 741 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: they were doing with the backs was getting them out 742 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: of the backfield. I mean that that was you could 743 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: tell early in the game that that mckissic and Gibson 744 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: were going to catch those passes, you know, in the flat. 745 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: They weren't really trying to throw it down the field 746 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: too much. And so you know, that's that's the part 747 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: that I think really kind of messed up the defense, 748 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: the linebackers and all that. But but I agree, I 749 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: just think the bottom dropped out and they just it 750 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: was over at that point. I mean, they just deflated 751 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: this team, de moralize them. It was I don't know, 752 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: it just it was just like the hot air balloon 753 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: and that fake pond was just like the needle right 754 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: at the tops, like it's over, which I feel like 755 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: that's oh sorry, go ahead, a g go ahead, Dave, Okay, 756 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: I just it's it's been a season long trend that 757 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: these things happen in the fourth quarters of games. You know, 758 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: um Kenyan Drake had his seventy yard er, I mean 759 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: that game was out of reach. Fourth quarter, Odell Beckham's 760 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: reverse went fifty yards for a touchdown. That game wasn't 761 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: even out of reach. But for whatever reason, they have 762 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: these lapses late in games. Maybe it's a mental thing, 763 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: maybe they're exhausted. I don't know, but that, I mean, 764 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: that's a very real trend that when the game goes 765 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: on they have a pension for giving up these backbreakers. 766 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: Their longest runs are probably in the fourth quarter. I 767 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: would bet my life absolutely. What do you think, aber 768 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that if you go back and 769 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: watch some of those plays. The thing that I noticed 770 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: from watching back it's that there is a lot of 771 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 1: confusion within the defense. There is and credit to Washington's 772 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: offense that I thought they did a really nice job, 773 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: but our defense they lack anticipation. And because of that, 774 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: because of that lack of anticipation and vision and predicting 775 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: what's going to happen and keeping an eye on who 776 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: has the ball, it makes you be a step behind. 777 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: And if you go back and watch that, the Cowboys 778 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: always seem to be a few steps behind the Washington offense. 779 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: So it just creates a slower game and therefore you 780 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: can't really catch up to the running back or whoever 781 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: has the ball at the time. So to me, they 782 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: just need to get better at anticipating where the ball 783 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: is going to go and who has the ball so 784 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: that there's no so that there is not as much 785 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 1: confusion during those kinds of place. Let's talk about Dez 786 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: Bryan a little bit. He was elevated to Baltimore's active 787 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: roster last week. He's played in a couple of games. 788 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: Now for them, what type of challenges as he presented 789 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: this stage of his career. Let's start first with you Amber. Well, 790 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send this question to someone else because I'll 791 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: be honest, I have not been really watching what this 792 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: Brian has been doing. It is when I said, I'll 793 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: say this, I am very impressed at the fact that 794 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: he is where he's at now. I mean, if you 795 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: if you follow him on Twitter, you know how persistent 796 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: he has been in trying to get back on the 797 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: field and back on an NFL team. So it's very 798 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: impressive that he's gotten to this point where he's actually 799 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: on the active roster now and based on what and 800 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: we know, we've seen this Brian, we know what he 801 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: can do, but he is several years have gone by, 802 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: so I do think that the last time I watched 803 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: some of his some of the things that he was doing, 804 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily anything that impressed me. It wasn't the 805 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: death Brian that we've been used to share, you know, 806 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: cheering for and being excited about when he was here 807 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. So he is gonna be a threat 808 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: because he is a skilled player, and I'm hesitant to 809 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: say that he's not gonna be a problem because the 810 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: thing is, we cannot trust Dallas defense, and that's really 811 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: the problem there is I cannot rely on what our 812 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: secondary can do. So therefore any wide receiver can really 813 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: be a threat to your defense. But it's gonna be 814 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: really fun to just watch this whole matchup and see 815 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: him again, and this time playing against the Cowboys. Nick, 816 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, watching some of those videos on Twitter. I 817 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: stopped pretty early in the process there, but I've seen 818 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: some of it, and here like, who who are you 819 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: going up against? I mean some of these guys, He's 820 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: like he was bringing in some of his Twitter followers 821 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: to come in and go up against. That sounds funny. 822 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: But if if Richard Robinson and Savian Smith weren't on 823 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, would they be on the street, I mean 824 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: would they would they be on another team? I mean 825 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't be. So he's gonna I mean, I 826 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: think she makes a good point. I mean, who's he 827 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: gonna be facing. He doesn't run routes and you know, 828 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: well right now, I mean never was a strong part 829 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: of his game. I saw some of the Tennessee game 830 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: to the days he just kind of runs around. So 831 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: if a play breaks down and it's just him and 832 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis in the back of the end zone, yeah, 833 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: I worry about that. I don't think he's necessarily gonna 834 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: just outrun people and and out maneuver them. But if 835 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: it's just a fifty fifty ball against some of these corners, 836 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: yeah he could. If the ball's thrown right, yeah, I 837 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: mean I would imagine he's he's I would guess he's 838 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: a he's a possession guy now, and I mean we 839 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: don't really know for sure. He's got four catches for 840 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: twenty eight yards since he came back. Also, you know, 841 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: it won't be Lamar today that I just love the 842 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: circumstances of the It's gonna be Dez and Robert Griffin, 843 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: who are I mean, two of the best players to 844 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: come out of Texas in recent memory. And they're not 845 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: those guys anymore clearly so, but I'll be interested to see, 846 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, can RG three get him the ball? Can 847 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: Dez do something with it? If he does? I have 848 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: no idea. Washington hadn't beaten the Cowboys since on Thanksgivings 849 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: Forever twenty twelve, and in the two players in that 850 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: game that were starring were Dez and which actually I 851 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,479 Speaker 1: got in an argument on Twitter the other night because 852 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: I was talking about DK Metcalf reminding me of Dez. 853 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: People were like, oh, he's way more athletic than Daz. 854 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: Was like, go watch Dez a decade ago. Like, I 855 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: feel like people forget because he scored a touchdown from 856 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: about eighty five yards out in that Thanksgiving game where 857 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: he was moving, I mean, he torched the whole defense 858 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: on a and it was like an eight yard reception 859 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: that he took to the house. So so Derek, sorry, 860 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: I know this isn't in your plan. But on the 861 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 1: in the mail bag this morning, we talked about ranking 862 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 1: the speed of the eighty eights, and I had a 863 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 1: hard time because I don't really know about Michael Irvin's 864 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: speak compared to Drew Pearson. But I and I haven't 865 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: even seen ceedee lamb make it big long play. But 866 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: I just got him number one. I went seed des 867 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: Irvin Pearson, Sorry Drew, but Drew even makes fun of 868 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: his own speed, So I don't know I speed, I've 869 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 1: never seen. I've only ever seen Drew Pearson highlights. Obviously 870 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: I was getting by people. Yeah, well it was nineteen 871 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: seventy fight. That's why I would say. That's why I 872 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 1: would probably put Mike Glass. You put Pierson, Yeah, I 873 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: and yeah, obviously I'm biased based on what I have 874 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: a scene I've I've covered two of them, and I've 875 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: only ever watched the other two on on highlights. Yeah, 876 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: I remember a very small amount of Mike's career from 877 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I'm take I'll take the 878 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: prime des over all of them, Like twenty ten, twenty eleven, 879 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, Brian London, London de London des is better 880 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: than Odell. You're not You're not catching twenty two year 881 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: old DEAs. I mean he was. He was explosive. I 882 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: feel like the R two like speed that That was 883 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: the fastest I've ever seen him. That took my breath 884 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: away too. It was that game was remarkable. It was 885 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: a ten yard crossing route and man, you would have 886 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: thought somebody could get an angle on him and it 887 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: was next thing you know, he's in the end like 888 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: a Sonic the Hedgehog, just like little yeah, I'll yeah, 889 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: I'll take a prime which but I mean, but that's 890 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: not Desert like you know, their sonic And he's running 891 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: and he does that little you know where you like 892 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: a little ball and you're like, well, yeah, I got it, 893 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 1: I got I had a Sega, I would I'm gonna guess. 894 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess. Dez Is. They're basically like Dez We're 895 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: gonna run. You know, it's either a fade or a 896 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: go or a go. Maybe a hitch. Yeah, Like he 897 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: can run eight yards, box out Jordan Lewis and go 898 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: up for the ball still I don't know if he's 899 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: gonna take over the game, but he can definitely do that. 900 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna try. He's gonna be at Lamarck since that's 901 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: the other thing too. Man, you know, he wants he 902 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: no doubt he wants that bad. I mean he'll he'll probably. 903 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: He always says winning is what he cares about. So like, 904 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 1: if he catches two balls for twelve yards and they win, 905 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: he'll probably be happy. But he'll be way happier if 906 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: he's got, you know, a lot to do with with 907 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: why they went. I hope Sean I hope he's over 908 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: the middle for Sean Lee. You know, let's not forget 909 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: he called, you know, Snake Lee. That's that. It seems 910 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: like even that feels like ancient history. Yeah, it's gonna 911 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: be fun. Yeah, But that's also why I think that's 912 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: also why I think he'll be a threat in the 913 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: red zone is because that's something I think he does 914 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: still possess in him and uh and that's an area 915 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: where he can make a different Yeah, that's a different 916 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: place where he can make Okay, that place where he 917 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: can make a difference, uh and and score some points 918 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 1: for them, And it's good for him. It's good for them. 919 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: I think that's an area that you could possibly see 920 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: this or next Tuesday. All Right, we appreciate you guys 921 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: joining us. It sucks. Yeah yeah, sorry, yeah yeah, come on, 922 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: mask up. Let's get back in here as a group, 923 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: as a team. Dude. I'll be back. I'll be back 924 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: on Monday. I'll be back on Monday. I just have 925 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 1: to do this this week. I'll be back Monday, Monday, 926 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: all right, so until tomorrow. We will be back on tomorrow. 927 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about the ball to more 928 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: defense versus the Cowboys offense. That's a really good defense 929 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: over there, but we'll talk about that tomorrow. Till then. 930 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: For Nick Eatman, Dave Helm and Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagelton. 931 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 932 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 933 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.