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Speaker 1: Hey guys, we are back on. Normally, the show is normal.

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Speaker 1: It takes for when the news gets weird. I am

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Speaker 1: Mary catherin.

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Speaker 2: Hamp And I'm Carol Marcowitt.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mary Catherine. You were on a very interesting trip

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Speaker 1: I had a very meaningful Memorial Day weekend, which I

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Speaker 1: being the kickoff of summer. But I was in a

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Speaker 1: years gone by because I was in Poland for a

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Speaker 1: tour of several of the death camps. Not to start

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Speaker 1: us off on a really dark foot this morning, but

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Speaker 1: it was a very overwhelming trip. It's hard to think

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Speaker 1: the human psyche is not great, even at taking in

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Speaker 1: one or two deaths of people you know close to you,

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Speaker 1: it did make me think even more about those who

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Speaker 1: World War Two. My grandparents were among them. Thankfully did

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Speaker 1: in Poland. I know you've been to Poland before. Just

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Speaker 1: as well in Poland, and then they get the Communists.

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Speaker 1: Like it is. It a very sad story of a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved Warsaw. I thought it was a beautiful

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and fairly prosperous at this point too, because of

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Speaker 1: in Europe, but the current events tie in. Unfortunately, there

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Speaker 1: On my layover, I heard about the murder of too

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Speaker 1: young Israeli embassy staffers in Washington, d C. Which just

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Speaker 1: adds another layer of well, this is what we're learning about,

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Speaker 1: clearly an act of political terrorism perpetrated by a man

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Speaker 2: So what's interesting is actually the man that was murdered

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Speaker 2: is a Christian. And I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 2: He served in the IDF, but he was raised a

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Speaker 2: What I think people need to get about that and

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Speaker 2: violence is growing, and it is. Yes, it targets right

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Speaker 2: now Jews or you know, quote unquote Zionist, which is

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Speaker 2: which could be anybody. Really. I think even people who

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Speaker 2: exist anyway, and they are Zionists. Therefore, so this kind

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Speaker 1: It for The Post a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: I called it, you know, assassination culture, the killing of

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Speaker 1: When you can kill people on the.

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Speaker 2: celebrated for it, it will create more copycats, it will

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Speaker 1: No, I think that's important too. And in the official

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Speaker 1: You get very mainstream, like just elite college professors and

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Speaker 1: But to your point, when people gather under the banner

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Speaker 1: That is the express value of a hezbolah or a Hamas.

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Speaker 1: That's that that is their mission. So that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a great point. Absolutely, just the very sad story your

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Speaker 1: all accounts, just lovely people who are perhaps just about

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Speaker 2: She was a Peacenik, which is another you know frame

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Speaker 2: to this is they keep killing the piece necks, they

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Speaker 1: This another example of that, another example of that. By

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Speaker 1: very special way. The morning that we went to alshwitzen Berkenal,

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Speaker 1: It's a very it's a hard place to get to,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely well. This is actually isn't one of our official

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Speaker 2: normally program Democrats, Mary Catherine, how are they doing?

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Speaker 1: You know? Not great? There was a new New York

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Speaker 1: Times piece illustrating just I feel like every week there's

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Speaker 1: the left like a giant flashing red sign, the things

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Speaker 1: And that's why they're so special and good is that

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Speaker 1: other people, and those exact groups are saying no right,

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Speaker 1: and people listen to them. In this New York Times

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just this last election, it was the last

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it says, this is Shane Goldknocker reporting this all told.

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Speaker 1: Trump has improved every election in fourteen hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: when he lost in twenty twenty, Democrats have expanded their

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Speaker 1: votes share continuously in only fifty seven counties. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: the demographics of those counties are exactly what you would

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Speaker 1: That's right, It's just not. Yes, I say, three of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he notes in not one of the triple

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Speaker 2: only one steadily voted more Democratic. Over the last three elections,

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Speaker 2: Trump has solidified this working class base and Democrats really

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Speaker 2: And look, we've said it on the show plenty of times.

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Speaker 2: I think it's enjoyable right now to watch the Democrats

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Speaker 2: can all change. This is not we are not like, Wow,

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Speaker 2: Republicans are going to win forever and Democrats are never

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Speaker 2: happens when one party is doing significantly better than the others.

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Speaker 2: Of the conversation, I don't want to be a part

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Speaker 2: of that because I find that so ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats will return.

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Speaker 2: It is not under the Democrats. But it is kind

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Speaker 2: of fun right now just seeing where.

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Speaker 1: A small counterpoint to that, because I you're exactly right,

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Speaker 1: things will swing Democrats. I mean, Republicans will overplay their hands,

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Speaker 1: and I think they have less leeway for doing that

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Speaker 1: we have seen a significant shift in the like sort

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Speaker 1: You've seen these counties flip to red in registration and

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of writing and thinking on the

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's going to work out for them.

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Speaker 2: He posted the coloradens will be mandated by law to

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Speaker 2: They can't fight public opinion forever, and wes le Yank

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is actually insane, by the way, just

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Speaker 1: I do think, by the way, Gentlesen who says this

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Speaker 1: So Fetterman is the model for how a purple to

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that would be nice, But are the Democrats

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Speaker 2: doing that? Let's get to our second topic. We'll be

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Speaker 2: right back on. Normally, the Democrats are poised to spend

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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan is the liberal Joe Rogan. He offered Kamala

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Speaker 2: crazy tear. They've treated masculinity as toxic for so long.

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Speaker 2: They've everything all the articles that you and I always

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Speaker 2: It seems easy that, you know, don't hate your voters.

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Speaker 1: What can it be.

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Speaker 1: I also just think there is a total lack in

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just just like, stop saying that everything

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Speaker 2: we get some of that with the sheet dresses and all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it, they would lose women too.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they don't understand that just coming for

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Speaker 2: John Hassen summed it up as working out is right wing,

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Speaker 2: Liking hawk girls is right wing. Eating red and meat

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Speaker 1: Yes, By the way, can I point out our buddy,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, speaking of boobs, like, let's.

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Speaker 1: Move into our last topic.

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Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break and come right

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Speaker 3: back with Normally, I watched the American Music Awards yesterday,

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Speaker 3: and I generally I'm not a TV watcher.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about it on here before. I don't watch shows,

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Speaker 2: I don't watch movies. I certainly don't watch award shows.

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Speaker 2: But yesterday there was this whole thing where I don't

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Speaker 2: know if people aren't crazy, like the way I live

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Speaker 2: with a crazy Taylor Swift fan in my house.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was wondering, like, what's the occasion for the

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Speaker 1: casing for this?

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Speaker 2: There was this Taylor Swift fans are waiting for her

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Speaker 2: to re release a reputation Taylor's Version album, And there

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Speaker 2: was a rumor and Taylor like leaves these breadcrumbs for

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Speaker 2: her fans to follow, and it's this whole thing. And

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Speaker 2: if you're not in the cult, don't join it now,

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Speaker 2: is all I would say to you. But my daughter

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Speaker 2: is in the cult, and she had she didn't think

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Speaker 2: she was really gonna happen, but a widespread rumor that

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Speaker 2: Taylor was going to announce the re release on this show.

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Speaker 2: That did not happen, but we watched the whole show.

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Speaker 2: I have to say, the vibe shift was very real.

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Speaker 2: Women were dressed very feminine. I think the last few

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Speaker 2: years we've seen less of that. I've tweeted the boobs

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Speaker 2: are back many times over the last years. Boobs appear

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Speaker 2: to be truly back. Also, the military were celebrated and

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Speaker 2: mentioned a lot. It was Memorial Day. They had a

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Speaker 2: large military presence in the crowd, certainly felt different, no

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Speaker 2: political commentary whatsoever. But I should note it was also

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Speaker 2: like a very sealless event. Almost none of the people

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Speaker 2: who want awards actually attended Billie Eilish one eminem One.

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Speaker 1: They were not in the crowd.

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Speaker 2: And so it was interesting because it definitely felt vibe shifty,

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Speaker 2: but it also felt like a very low budget event.

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Speaker 1: That is interesting to me that a bunch of people

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Speaker 1: didn't show up, And I wonder if some of that

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Speaker 1: is just like some of that is just like these

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Speaker 1: old ways of doing things are losing power, right right,

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Speaker 1: It's just not as special to be at one of

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Speaker 1: these events as it used to be. It's not as

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Speaker 1: it's not as powerful, probably partly, probably partly because the

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Speaker 1: red carpet is like absolutely diluted with huge numbers of

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Speaker 1: influencers that no one really knows, but they have command

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Speaker 1: all these command all these followers, and so like I

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Speaker 1: can imagine if you're an a lister and you go

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Speaker 1: to like an influencer red carpet, you're like, really, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm here with these folks, right, so maybe it maybe

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Speaker 1: it takes down your motivation to be there in person.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was hosted by Jennifer Lopez, who has not

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Speaker 2: had a great few years. No, no, if that's like

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Speaker 2: the peak of what you can get for them.

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Speaker 1: That was an interesting choice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. She changed outfits like twenty times and

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Speaker 2: they were all very very cool outfits. But my fifteen

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Speaker 2: year old said, like, were they all in a group

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Speaker 2: chat together, like you're I'm not going, You're not going

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Speaker 2: what I'm not going, You're not going.

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Speaker 1: We're not We're not doing it, guys. So interesting? Okay, well, but.

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Speaker 2: You know, boobs in the military, what is not to like.

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Speaker 1: I do love that they had military folks there. That's

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Speaker 1: that's cool, and it's so nice to see that b

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Speaker 1: mainstream and not just lip service and to have put

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Speaker 1: some thought into it and to have them in the

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Speaker 1: crowd is very nice. I agree completely.

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Speaker 2: That was the only thing worth watching in that terrible show. Well,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us on Normally Normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and when things get weird, act normally