1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Katie Curic, and this is next question. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: I don't know about you all, but just thinking about 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Molly Shannon makes me smile. For six seasons, she starred 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: on Saturday Night Live and brought to life so many 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: enduring characters like Catholic schoolgirl, married Katherine Gallagher. Sometimes when 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: I get nervous, I sticked my fans under my arms 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: and then I smell my fingers like that proud fifty 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: year old Sally O'Malley. Not one of those gals who 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: is afraid to tell her real aid. I had to 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: kick scretch kick and Delicious Dish co host carry rialto 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: please welcome the owner of Seasons Eatings, Pete Schwetty. But 12 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot about her story I didn't know, like 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: how she dealt with loss at a very young age, 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: her Zaney father and coming into her own as a comedian. 15 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: She gets into all of it in her new book 16 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: called Hello Molly, and we get into all of it 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: in our conversation Hello Molly. Well, Hello Molly. That was 18 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: such a mom thing to do. But hey, what are 19 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: you gonna do? Molly Shannon? I'm so happy to talk 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: to you. Congratulations on your book and everything in your life. 21 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: And just before we talk about what's in your book, 22 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: how has it been, Molly? Have you been enjoying this 23 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: book tour? Uh? You know, how was the process of 24 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: writing it? Are you feeling super vulnerable? Just tell me 25 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: what you're thinking and feeling these days. I do feel 26 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: I have really been enjoying the process. I'm really proud 27 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: of myself that I wrote a book. And yes, you 28 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: I do feel vulnerable, but I mostly I've just been 29 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: enjoying it. I've been enjoying the process, and I think 30 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: I just appreciate opportunities and show business. So I have 31 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: a generally positive attitude. Yes, but it's very very like 32 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: deeply profoundly personal obviously, and uh, it's full of, as 33 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: one critic said, emotional truth and just burying your soul 34 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: and kind of letting people into the deep dark places 35 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: of your psyche. Um. Is it something that made you 36 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: at all trepidacious or does it feel liberating? What? Um? Yes? 37 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: I think I thought about everything deeply and thought about 38 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: it a lot, and would comb over stuff like is 39 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: that okay? And is that? What about that? And what 40 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: about that? I think deeply about each element. It's not 41 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: like random or anything. I'm really thinking about it. Um. 42 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: But I also think women should share their stories. And 43 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: I think vague sentimental writing is kind of ring. And uh, 44 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: I just was like, if you're gonna do it like 45 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, you did it. It's like, if you're gonna 46 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: do it, do it, you know what I mean. I 47 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: feel like women need other women, people need people, you know. 48 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: I think, um, sharing stories is important. So I just 49 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: wanted to be brave and do it and honest and 50 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: yeah yeah and vulnerable. Yeah are you sick of telling 51 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: these stories over and over again? Are you enjoying the 52 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: publicity of it all? Um? I? I I guess I'm 53 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: a comedian, so I don't mind telling the stories over 54 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: and over again because I feel like I'm always like, oh, 55 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: you can perfect how you tell it and set it 56 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: up that way. I'm always thinking like as a writer. 57 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: And also I had to do live book events, so 58 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I've got my little you know, 59 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: act together on the roads. You you get better at 60 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: kind of knowing Oh that fits, that works, like, you know. 61 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: For those live book events, that made me nervous actually, 62 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: because I felt like, are they expecting a comedy show 63 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: or something? Is this. As a comedic actress, I felt like, oh, 64 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: I better give them a thousand percent. And I said 65 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: to my book publishers, I was like, do they know 66 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: it's just like a Q and A because I get 67 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: worried about, you know, being bor boring or something, you know, 68 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: And did they tell you you don't have to do 69 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: a whole like stand up routine. They did. They said, yep, 70 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: you don't have to when people know what this is, 71 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: and it's okay. But as I continue to do them, 72 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: I would still, you know, okay, that story, that story 73 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: gets a laugh, Tell that one. That's a good story 74 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: that gets a laugh. So I, as a performer who 75 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: does comedy, of course I am conscious of that. You know, well, 76 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: you don't have to. You don't have to tell the 77 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: stories that got to laugh. You can just have a 78 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: s full on straight conversation with me about anything and 79 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: everything you want to talk about. But wow, Molly, you know, 80 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: I guess the tears of a clown. This is what 81 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: I thought about when I read the part about your childhood, 82 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: because I don't think that was particularly well known Molly, 83 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: that you had a terrible loss when you were four 84 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: years old. You lost your mom you lost your sister 85 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: and you lost your cousin in a car accident, and 86 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: your your father was badly injured as a result of it. 87 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: And have people been as shocked to learn this about 88 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: you as I was. Yes, I think people were like, oh, 89 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. And I kind of put it 90 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: in context and I explained where certain characters came from, 91 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: like Sally O'Malley, how she limps when she come on 92 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: comes on stage, and how that's really me imitating my 93 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: dad's limp after the accident, and then her kicking is 94 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: really my wish for my dad to kick the braces 95 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: off a lot of them. A lot of my characters 96 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: are impressions of my dad. But as women, um there's 97 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: a lot of kicking, a lot of physical stuff, and um, 98 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: sometimes when you're not even conscious of stuff, it just 99 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: comes out. You pour it out into the art and 100 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: it helps you heal and survive. So I think it's 101 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: interesting because people knew me as a comedian, but then 102 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: to give the backstory of kind of where this comes 103 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: from is hopefully can put it into a context. You know, 104 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna say one more thing, Katie. Yes, some people 105 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: were asking, you know these interviews might be emotional, and 106 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: this is hard, but you know, honestly, I don't mind 107 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: being deadly serious. I am a more serious person in 108 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: real life, and sometimes I find it harder to have 109 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: to have to just be funnier, you know, do be 110 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: on late night shows. You know, I'm so appreciative that, 111 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: but that's really hard, Like I almost my true nature 112 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: is to be more serious. You know. Well, can you 113 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: talk I mean, at the risk of making you talk 114 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: about it again as you I'm sure you've you've done. 115 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a very harrowing story. Uh, tell us 116 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: set the scene and what was happening, and then Molly, 117 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: I can only imagine, and in fact, you write about 118 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: all the emotional baggage that you and your father were 119 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: left with. Can you give us the circumstances and what 120 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: happened with the accident? Um? Yes, Well, there was a 121 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: graduation party, um for my cousin, and it was like 122 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: an all day party that went into the evening, and 123 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: there had been drinking. And I was four years old, 124 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: my sister Mary was six, and my baby sister Katie 125 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: was three, and um, yeah, so my dad's version of 126 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: the story, and I believe my dad. He stuck to 127 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: his story till his death. Um and never wavered. Um. 128 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: So And I lay this out in the book in 129 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: the accident chapter. But basically, there was drinking earlier, he 130 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: had taken a nap, and then they left much later 131 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: at night, A group of people takes him out to 132 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: the car, good bye, goodbye. You know. I guess my 133 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: dad asked my mom to drive. She said, no, you're fine, 134 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: you can drive. Yes, my cousin to drive, who was 135 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: only five, And I think they let him drive, and 136 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: you know people, a group of people are saying goodbye. Um, 137 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: this is a different time now, I remember this is 138 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: nineteen nine. We have so much more awareness on the subject. Now. 139 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: We have mothers against drunk driving, we have friends don't 140 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: let friends drive drunk. This is you know, people didn't 141 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: wear seatbelts. It was you know. So anyhow, so we 142 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: left and then the card jaid crash. It was ninety 143 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: minutes into the drive home. And I will never know 144 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: exactly what happened, Whether he fell asleep nodded off because 145 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: he'd driven for ninety minutes, and did drinking. Was drinking 146 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: involved in that? Yeah, I did drink. If he fell asleep, 147 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: did drinking contribute to that, yes, probably, I'm not I'm 148 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: not trying to bail him out of that, but there 149 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: was never a blood alcohol report. So you know, my 150 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: dad always stuck to that story till his death, like no, 151 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: I had asked them to drive, and you know, so 152 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: I chose to believe him. And I really admired my 153 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: father and he was, like my mom, a gypsy rose. 154 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: And after that horrible, devastating accident, he pulled himself up 155 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: by his bootstraps and went on to raise two girls 156 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: in the seventies and did his best job. And you know, 157 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: he was a really good father, you know, but that 158 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: must have been gosh, Molly's just a crushing blow. How 159 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: old was your mom when my mom was thirty three? Yes, 160 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: it's a crushing blow, um to my dad, to me, 161 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: to my sister Mary, who survived. It was I'm aged 162 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: four and life, as you know, it's just gone. Everything 163 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: changed in a split second, and it was it was horrible, 164 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, And losing a parent at any age is 165 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: extremely difficult, but losing a parent as a kid is 166 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: just like a whole another thing. That's just you know, 167 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: very sad. And you know it was I was in 168 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: heavy grief. When I was little, really feeling like when 169 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: I would do fun stuff, like my mom took my 170 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: my aunt took me to the supermarket to buy, you know, toys, 171 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: I would be like, Katie should be here. She would 172 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: love these toys. Like everything made me mad. And when 173 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: we went to live with my aunt after the accident, 174 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: and my aunt um would cut sandwiches, but she would 175 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: leave the cross on. I was like, no, my mom 176 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: cuts the cross off. Do it like my mom? You know. 177 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: It was just mad and heavy grief, too much for 178 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: a child, you know, And you were four years old, 179 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: and yet you remember so much. You talk about looking 180 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: at Mary and having her sort of fall apart, your 181 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: older sister h in the hospital, and it's it's amazing 182 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: to me how how vivid those memories are for you still. Yes, 183 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: they are so vivid and stuff you'll never forget. And 184 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: it is interesting because it's such a you know, I 185 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: remember that. I remember people coming into the hospital. Nobody 186 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: would tell us what was going on. I was like, 187 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: where is my mom? Where's Katie? And and then yeah, 188 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: I thought, well Mary will be my guide posts. But 189 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: she was just so upset and looking out the window 190 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: and you know, crying, and so it was just like 191 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: I was like, where is my mom and where is Katie? 192 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: And nobody's telling us what's going on. They're just bringing 193 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: us all these presents, and we just had our beds 194 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: filled with toys, and I was just like, uh, must 195 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: have been so confusing too, just for a little four 196 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: year old girl to even attempt to process everything that 197 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: was happening. It must have been so overwhelming. And this was, 198 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: of course, you talk about a different time where people 199 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: weren't that conscious about drinking and driving and all the 200 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: things that were aware of today. They also weren't that 201 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: knowledgeable about green and about processing grief and helping kids 202 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: with grief. And I think in many ways we still aren't, 203 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: of course. You know. I think about my girls who 204 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: were six in and two when they lost their dad 205 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: after a nine month illness, so kind of a different 206 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: set of circumstances and six and ten, you six and two, 207 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: six and two so little. So yeah, of course I 208 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: relate to them, you know. And did you I know 209 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: that you've you've talked about going to therapy, but this 210 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: was much later when you went and and and talked 211 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: about these issues. Did you get any help, any kind 212 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: of counseling as a little girl to help you deal 213 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: with this. No, I did not have any counseling. And 214 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: I think people were like, don't talk about it, I'll 215 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: make her sad, you know, And teachers didn't know what 216 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: to do, and you know, nobody talked about you know, 217 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: people didn't talk about it, and I think I didn't. 218 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: I probably didn't want to talk about it because I 219 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: think you don't want to stand out in school. You 220 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: don't want to feel different. You want to just blend 221 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: in and be normal. You know. It's so true. That's 222 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: what kids do. They want to be normal. They don't 223 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: want to have they don't want to be different than 224 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: the other kids. And it's interesting when Ellie, Ellie's dad 225 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: was sick, because Carrie was just so little. Ellie was 226 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: in kindergarten and I I had this social worker come 227 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: in and do this thing called the worry cup, and 228 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: everybody put one of those plastic sort of fake gemstones 229 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: into this cup in the middle of the circle and 230 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: they all talked about what they were worried about, and 231 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: what it did is Ellie obviously said she was worried 232 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: about her dad who was sick. But other people said, 233 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm worried about my grandmother, I'm worried that my dog 234 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: is going to die, and I'm worried about this that 235 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: or the other thing. But it basically it made it 236 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: made Ellie's pain and anxiety. It normalized it because it 237 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: showed that she wasn't alone and that other kids were 238 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: really worried about things too. And I remember her teacher 239 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: telling me it was one of the most profound experiences 240 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: she had ever had as a teacher. But you know, 241 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: there obviously that wasn't around when you were a little girl, 242 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: and you just were Obviously people didn't know what to say, 243 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: and you just felt weirder and weirder. I'm sure, yeah, 244 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: I although I did have a priest at St. Thomas 245 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: who did when we moved back to our family home 246 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: after my dad recuperated. We lived in my aunt for 247 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: a year, and we did have a family priest when 248 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: we went to church one day who knelt down and 249 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: acknowledged the loss. He was like, no, Molly, you've lost 250 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: your mother and your baby sister, and this is very sad. 251 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: And he held my hands and looked deep into my eyes, 252 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: and I really appreciated it. I was like, I felt 253 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: seen mean and understood, and I was so happy he 254 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: said something, and I just I loved him for it. 255 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: He had big, thick eyebrows and and irish brogue. I 256 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I just I loved Father Murray 257 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: for for that. You know, did your dad talk about 258 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: it much or was he sort of of the school 259 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: let's not bring it up because it'll make Molly and 260 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: Mary sad. He had a picture of her by his 261 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: bedside night table, with her in her wedding dress with 262 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: a rosary draped over the photographs. So I grew up 263 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: always seeing that in her mask card. And he would 264 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: talk about her, yes. And when he would clean the house, 265 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, he was a single father after that, so 266 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: he would he would get stressed out cleaning and and 267 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: then you know, he would take sometimes he would take 268 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Dexi mill to clean the house, a combination and embeeming 269 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: and tranquilizer. He would stay cleaning and clean all the 270 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: next thing in the house was sparkling, clean and even 271 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: play Judy Garland. And then we would sit on the 272 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: floor in the kitchen on the carpet. It was like 273 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: nineteen's kitchen and we would eat He's like, don't get 274 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: crumbs on the ground. But we would be like angel 275 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: of God, my guardian, dear to whom God's love commits 276 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: us here. God bless Mommy, Katie and France. Every day 277 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: we did that every every day. Yeah, so he kept 278 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: their memory alive for you and your sister. He really did. 279 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: And he would talk about her, and yes he did, 280 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: he did. Yes, yes, he would talk about We'll be 281 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: right back with the ever Charmie often hilarious, Molly Shannon, 282 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: right after this, your dad sounds like such a character, um, 283 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: not only taking speed to do the housework, but also 284 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: also just how much funny was. And you describe him 285 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: as as your mama June, you know, and and um, 286 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about him, because he sounds 287 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: like he was so much fun to be around. He 288 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: really was. He was just like very silly. He was 289 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: a frustrated performer. He always said that he wished he 290 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: would have gone to the Cleveland Playhouse and been an actor. 291 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: So everything around the house like it was like games. 292 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: Or if you went to the candy store like staffers 293 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: on Stopain Boulevard and Cleveland. O, how he go, Molly, 294 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: how about if we go into candy store and I'll 295 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: putend like I'm blind, and I was like okay, Like 296 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: everything was like a scene or a sketch. And he 297 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: would knock boxes of chocolates over and then he would 298 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: take samples and go, is this chocolate? Like very silly? 299 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: And then um. He would also undress the mannequins or 300 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: he would if a lot of times he didn't want 301 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: to pay because he worried about money. So if we 302 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: went to the amusement park Giaga Lake, he would say 303 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: to Anne Rampton, you know, I'll tell you what. Why 304 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: don't you speak around the back and hop over the 305 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: fence and then come meet me in the front. So 306 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to pay for you. So we were like, 307 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're like eleven and ten or eleven, and 308 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: we climb over and hop over barbed wire fence and 309 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: get scratched, and then he wouldn't have to pay, you know. Um. 310 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: But then he could equally turn and get mad too, 311 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: Like he would have to take us to you know, 312 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: get us our clothes for school. And we went to 313 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: this local place called the Lollipop Shop, and my dad 314 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: was buying dresses. You know, he had very good taste. 315 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: He was like, classics are the best. He bought all 316 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: the dresses to the counter and then the woman said, 317 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: oh no, I'm sorry. He had pulled him off the 318 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: sales rap sales rack. She said, no this, these dresses 319 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: aren't on sale, and he was like what. Then he 320 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: would kind of blow up and like, well, that's false advertising, 321 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: and he would go and knock all the clothes down 322 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: off the rack, one rack, two racks, and push the 323 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: racks over. Then come on, girls, and then he would 324 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: like you weren't mortified. We were mortified, And then he 325 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: would hurl an insult at the sales person like on 326 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: the way out, like and fix your teeth. Come on girls, 327 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, like terrible. We'd be like, oh no, yeah, 328 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: so um yes. So he was charismatic and funny, but 329 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: then he could also you know, get stressed out and 330 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: with all responsibilities of shopping and cleaning and cooking and 331 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, um. But but overall though, he was very 332 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: loving and I felt like he always had my back 333 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: and he believed in me and you know, accepted me. 334 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: So you know, I wanted to tell a real, you know, 335 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: truthful portrait. It was, yeah, sometimes complicated, but I had 336 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: deep love for my father, and was he the one 337 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: that encouraged your theatrical creative side, Molly? How did that blossom? 338 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: And how did he? Um, gosh, I guess nurture that? Well? 339 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: He was he He loved movies. We grew up watching 340 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: Judy Garland and Easter Parade and Rously and Russell, and 341 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: he loved those strong dames. So I grew up watching 342 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: them thinking oh, maybe I should be like them. And 343 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: then we were always doing skits in the house. We 344 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: would do like a telephone game. I call it the 345 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: Gym Shannon School of Acting, where we would take phone 346 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: calls and my dad we had to be really real, 347 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: so I would answer the phone, Hello, Shannon rests his Molly, 348 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: and you go, no, no, that sounds fake, or you 349 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: would start the call like you you want to uh 350 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: huh yeah, And so you had to do it really real, 351 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: so much to the point where when friends were over, 352 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: we would fake ring the call. And if say you 353 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: were at my house and I was, you know, Katie's 354 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: over for a play date, I'd be like, hello, Shannon 355 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: rests Molly. Yeah, yeah, Katie's right here. Uh huh yeah, right, okay, yes, 356 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: I can put it on you know, I'm trying to 357 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: pull you in so much that we could really trick 358 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: our friends. And I really do use that acting technique now. 359 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: I used it in White Lotus. I always try to 360 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: use the Gym Shannon School of acting in my you know, 361 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: professional Well, how does that how does that translate to 362 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: like the roles you're playing the Gym Shannon School because 363 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: you it gives a natural performance. It does give it 364 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: not It's not like some caricature. It's real. So if 365 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: you're playing you know, like Kitty and White Lotus, I'm 366 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: not doing like and Darla and come over here. I'm 367 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: doing Oh he's so cute. I'm doing it real. But 368 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: she's making it real. But she's that type of person. 369 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: But I still hope to do it grounded and real. 370 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm not doing I mean that is from my dad. 371 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't that interesting. And then and then in l A, 372 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: I remember struggling and I was like, oh, it's so hard. 373 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm not blonde and beautiful. I'm never gonna make it. 374 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: He was like, well that's not a good attitude, Molly. 375 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: You're never gonna make it if you have that attitude. 376 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 1: And he's like, what you need to do is you know, 377 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: put on your high heels, doll yourself up, put on 378 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: some lipstick, and you march in there to those Hollywood 379 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: agents and casting directors and you say, hey, hold the phone, 380 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: I got talent and use your singing voice. And I 381 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: was like, okay, I don't know if that's gonna work. 382 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: But when I had my first meeting with a talent manager, 383 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: Barbara Jarrett in um New York City, who represented an 384 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: up and coming freckle faced Jerry O'Connell, and stand by me, 385 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: I did do that. I sang the song Chica Go, 386 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: Chica Go. I sang at Judy Garland song like my 387 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: dad liked. And I got up on the desk and 388 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: Barbara Jarrett was like, you got a kid, and she 389 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: signed me and I was up. You know. So it's 390 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: like his advice work. Did you call your dad and say, 391 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: hey it worked, dad, I did. He knew it. He 392 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: was like I told you, you know, he was always like, 393 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: all yourself up, jump on the desk, and usually you know, 394 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: and use your voice. Is that what he said exactly? 395 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: He did use your singing voice. Yes, that's so funny. 396 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: I know, it's so crazy. Um, so I have to 397 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: ask you about there was a time in Cleveland when 398 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: when you hopped on a plane wearing with a friend 399 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: wearing ballet to twos after your dad dared you, Yes, 400 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: my dad dared us. He said, you know what would 401 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: be the greatest stunt if you hopped on a lane, boy, 402 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: that would bind you up in the front pages of 403 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: the papers, and so and and I one summer day, 404 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: right before Labor Day, decided to do it. We told 405 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: my dad, I think we told her brother and he 406 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: was like, we're never gonna get do that. And we 407 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: we took the rapid transit out to the airport Cleveland, 408 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: hopping at the airport, and we figured if the hopping 409 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: on the plane didn't work, we would go take a 410 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: ballet class. Yeah. Anne was eleven, I was thirteen. So 411 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: we had pink leotards on, our hair pulled back in buns, 412 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: and um pink skirt and pink tights and we looked 413 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: like a little innocent prima ballerina's. And we went to 414 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: the airport and we saw two flights, one to San Francisco, 415 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: went to New York. And I was like, let's go 416 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: to New York. We just went up to the gate. 417 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: This is before security. This is nineteen seventy six, and uh, 418 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: we just said to the Sertis committee, get on and 419 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: just go. Say goodbye to my sister. She's on the flight. 420 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: She was like, oh sure, you sweet girls, go ahead. 421 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: And then we went and the plane was and I crowded, 422 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: and we ducked down in the seat and then um 423 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: the plane start. She forgot about. The plane starts backing 424 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: up and then going towards the runway and we were like, 425 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: oh god. We start saying Hail Mary's were like, Hail 426 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: Mary for the gracefulders wip me, blessed our the almost 427 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: blessed frough them justicing room to go, and then the 428 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: planes up in the air and we couldn't believe it. 429 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: And then that same woman came around to ask us 430 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: for our drink orders, and she looked like she was 431 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: in shot. She was like, and I getting lady something 432 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: to drink. And we were the coat Galipinus. And then 433 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: we had the best flight. Then we when we landed, 434 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: we thought we're gonna get busted, and we're walking down 435 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: the aisle and then we got to the front of 436 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: the plane. We see that same stewardess and she just 437 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: went fie, ladies, have a nice trip. She was in 438 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: like a like a she was she looked like she 439 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: was about to So what what did you all do? 440 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: Then we went and we asked people, you know, how 441 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: do you get So we were at JFK. We didn't 442 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: know anything about New York City. I just said, well, 443 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: we had to get to the to the subway station 444 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: in the airport. So we walked. We were just like, 445 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: how do you get to the subway? And that We 446 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: walked for twenty minutes and then we topped the turnstile. 447 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: We only had a few dollars, and then we went 448 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: and we dined and Dash had a little diner, and 449 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: then we went and we stole I Love New York 450 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: t shirts and and we just were tooling around the 451 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: streets of New York like how did you get home? 452 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: We called my dad and then he was like, oh 453 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: my god, we're like we're in New York. And he 454 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: was like he couldn't believe it, and he couldn't be 455 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: mad at us since he'd given us permission, so he uh, 456 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: he was like, oh my god, oh my god. And 457 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: then he called anne rams mom and she immediately broke 458 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: out in cold sores. And she was like, oh my god. 459 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: And then my dad thought, well, maybe Mary and I 460 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: will drive to New York City from Cleveland and meet you. 461 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: So he called a couple of hotels to see if 462 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: we could wait in the lobby till he got there, 463 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: and they no hotel wanted to be responsible. They wanted 464 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: an adult with a credit card. So he was like, 465 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: all right, well you gotta come back home, and you know, 466 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: come back home tonight and you know, try to hop 467 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: on a plane back home. I'm not paying for it. 468 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: So we went back to the airport and we tried 469 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: to help on three and it didn't work. He kept 470 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: getting caught, and then we called him and he put 471 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: it on his credit card and we eventually had to 472 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: pay him back with our babysitting money. But it was 473 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: the greatest day ever. That is such a funny story. 474 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm surprised you haven't used that in a movie or 475 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: done a skit about that. Yeah, I know I've told 476 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: the story orally, but it's just it's crazy. And I'm 477 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: still very close to Anne Ramped, the girl in the story. 478 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: More with Molly in just a minute. I know that 479 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: when you were at n y U you had a 480 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: very formative experience. That kind of I think opened your 481 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: eyes and simultaneously opened doors as well. Can you tell 482 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: us about that in your final project? N y U 483 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: Drama School was great. Uh. Yeah. We had to do 484 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: the exercise where it was like where you have to 485 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: be the our Laquino and it was the only grade 486 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: for the semester, and students were renting out warehouses to 487 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: practice their and our Laquino is basically like the comic 488 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: relief in the Italian uh theatrical experiences. It comes out 489 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: he's the clown. And I'm thinking, oh my gosh, you're 490 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: renting out at warehouse to practice your arloquino and I 491 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: hadn't done that, and it was getting closer to and 492 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: and I think for the for the class, maybe only 493 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: two people have performed the ar laquino for the class 494 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: because they were just like a long, kind of long 495 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: routine and you had to sew a fake penis with 496 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: the sock because it's a boy character. That part was fun. 497 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: I was like, I sewed up my little fake penis, 498 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: but but I did not practice at all, and then 499 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: the day came right to perform and I was like, 500 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: oh god, I'm so scared. Um. I knew that they 501 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: wanted beats of three, like you had to if you 502 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: did a gimmick like come through the jory had to 503 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: try once, try twice and then you know, you know, 504 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: maybe you you know, and then the third time you succeed. 505 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: So there had to beat jokes with beats of three 506 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: and but and you had to make a long story short, 507 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: I just went crazy. I just committed with my full 508 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: heart because I figured, you know this, this is a 509 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: big comic performance, and I think I know what this is. 510 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: I think it just has to be spontaneous and big 511 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: and broad and take chances. And I just went crazy 512 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: and I used the acting teacher. I kind of improvised 513 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: in character as you are Lakino, kind of playing around 514 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: with him and like you think you're such a big deal, 515 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: you big acting teacher. And the kids loved it. To 516 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: make a long story short, the performance brought the house down. 517 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: I fell in the trash can. I did beats of three, 518 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: I you know, came through the door. I did all 519 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: the physical things and I got a standing ovation and 520 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: it was like kind of a turning point, m YU 521 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: where I was like, oh my gosh, maybe I'm onto 522 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: something like this, you know, this kind of organic, um, 523 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: big comedy performance where you stick with the basic beats 524 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: but then let yourself be really free within those parameters. 525 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: And I think I did use that years later on 526 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Love. I know, like a lot of people, Molly, 527 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: you didn't get the gig after your first audition, right, 528 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: what happened? No SNL came around and they asked for 529 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: a tape, and all these women in town very funny 530 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: comedy when we're all making you know, five minutes VHS tapes, 531 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: And I spent all my waitressing money on my tape 532 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: and had this editor do it. And I had no 533 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: money after that, and I was I was on a 534 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: pay phone outside of my apartment on the corner of 535 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: Fountain and Vine across the Elpoyo Loco, when I found 536 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: out that Lauren Michaels had passed or you know, I 537 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: don't know if you ever saw it. And I cried 538 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: on the pay phone and I I was broke and 539 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: and I was so disappointed. But then I thought, you 540 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: know what, I'm just gonna take a deep breath, and 541 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna continue to perform and write and do my 542 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: stage show and write characters and developed more new characters 543 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: so that if they come back around, I'm going to 544 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: be locked and loaded and ready. And they came back 545 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: around five years later and they said, can we have 546 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: a tape again? And I said, no, I'm not getting 547 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: my tape. You gotta come see my live show and um, 548 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: because I thought it teems too easy for them to 549 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: say no. And Marcy Kleine flew out and saw my 550 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: live show. She was like, you're coming to New York 551 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: to audition for Saturday in It Live and so and 552 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: the rest, as they say, is history. But during those 553 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: five years, so you just stayed at it. You just 554 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: did your show you wrote you did, but you also 555 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: did something I guess, the ma'm at scam. M. Yes, 556 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: well we were back during that period. That was before 557 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: I got Saturday in It Live. That was probably a 558 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: little bit after drama school. My friend Eugene Pack and 559 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: I were in l a Um having a really hard 560 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: time getting agents. We would I would walk up and down, 561 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: Sen said boulevards, slit my head shot under agent stores. 562 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: Nobody was calling, and we thought we gotta figure something out. 563 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: So we I called it the mam At Scam. We 564 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: had studied with David Mammon at n y U You. 565 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: Gene Peck studied with him more than me. I took 566 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: a few classes. But we just decided that we would 567 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: uh call agents and um agents that we were interested 568 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: in meeting. Like I wanted to meet the agent that 569 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: represented Joan Cusack. I was like, that's somebody that might 570 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: like comedy girls. So we did our research and we 571 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: each had a list of people we wanted to meet. 572 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to meet Bernie Brillstein. I wanted to be 573 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: on Twin Peaks, so I wanted to meet the cast 574 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: member of Twin Peaks. So so basically what we would 575 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: do is we would Friday nights at about four o'clock, 576 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: we would call different agents offices. My my character was 577 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 1: Liszt Stockwell, Jean's fake Eugene's character was Arnold Katz, and 578 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: I would call these agents and I would say, Hi, 579 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: this is list Stockwell calling for X agent and UM 580 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: listock Well from David Mammont's office, and they would put 581 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: the agent right on the phone and I would say, listen, 582 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: Barb or whatever. I have this kid in town. He's 583 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: the star of David d play. He's like the hot 584 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: up and comer and you got to meet him. David 585 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: speaks so highly of your agency, and they were like, squeep, 586 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: please give David my best and um, we knew that 587 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: the legendary playwright, uh screenwriter David Maammitt Gary Glenn Ross 588 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: wasn't in a llay a lot. He was more of Vermont, 589 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: New York, so we kind of knew there wouldn't be 590 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: a cross check. So if people were excited, they were 591 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: excited to do that. David Maammont thinking about them Friday 592 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: afternoon and they would say, great, you know, why don't 593 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: you have Eugene call me and what's out at the appointment. 594 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: But we had a rule since Eugene Pack and I 595 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: had worked in sales together. We worked at Park Avenue 596 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: Squash in Fitness in New York and we had a 597 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: role we were selling health club memberships that you could 598 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: not hang up the phone, so you had the credit card, 599 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: you have to have sale. So we did the same 600 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: thing with the mam and skin. You couldn't hang up 601 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: until you have the appointment in the book. So whatever 602 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: obstacle there was, we had an answer. So they said, 603 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: have have Eugene call me. Liz, I'd say, this kid 604 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: is so busy, he's just meeting everyone, he's in rehearsal, 605 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: So why don't we just get the appointment in the books. 606 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: And then we would crack up with Jane would pass 607 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: me a little notes and and then they would say great, 608 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, and then he'd have them meeting and then 609 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 1: they say, Liz, we should have lunch. I'd say, I 610 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: love it. I'll have my assistant call you. I was 611 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: just a positive gal, very positive, happy, so funny. And 612 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: that's how we got in. And I got casts on 613 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: Twin Peaks through the Mammit scam. Geane Pat called the 614 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: legendary casting rictor Joanna Ray. She was like, I would 615 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: love to meet Molly. Give David my best. And then 616 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: she met me and she was like, you Twin Peaks, 617 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: you must meet David Lynch and she cast me on 618 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: Twin Peaks. That was through Arnold Cats. I met Bernie 619 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: brill See and Bernie was like, yeah, my best to David. 620 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: You must meet my daughter Molly. You know nich I mean, 621 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: so it was just like we met everyone did did 622 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: they Did they ever find out it was a total scam? Um? No? Actually, 623 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: now they'll know, yes, And now they'll know. Yes, um no, 624 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: Joanna Ray does does know now and she was like, 625 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, that is so funny. She was just 626 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: such a wonderful cast regetter. But Katie, what I have 627 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: to say is we felt like we're doining them like 628 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: a favor to their meeting this talent. They're meeting talented, 629 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: they're meeting us, yes, meeting us. And I feel like 630 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: sometimes women do need to push the envelope a little 631 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: to even out the biased playing field in Hollywood. Maybe 632 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: more women need to do that sometimes. Yeah, they need 633 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: a friend like Eugene. Really you need a partner in 634 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: crime because otherwise it's no fun, right, exactly exactly. I 635 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: mean it was fun and people, it was very good 636 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: energy and the brilliant David Man that people were delighted 637 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: that he's on their mind. It was all very positive. 638 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's all very positive, lying right, yes, yes, yes, 639 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: but you know you talk about Hollywood and kind of 640 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: compensating for the bias that exists. I do feel like 641 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: there are many more opportunities opening up where there weren't before. 642 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: But I'm curious about for for a woman as she 643 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: gets older. You know, women used to be considered washed 644 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: up by thirty right back in the day. And and 645 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: do you feel like that's that's changing. I mean I 646 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: could only speak for myself, I hope, so I just think, um, yeah, 647 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting, like as far as comedy goes. I 648 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: I remember being like, I really feel like I have 649 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: to write for myself because I felt like if I'm 650 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: just gonna be in these like boys shows, I'm going 651 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: to be reduced to these like little parts of like yes, 652 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: doctor or I don't not to make a generalization, but 653 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: I felt like as a woman, I feel like if 654 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: you could write, you should write for yourself. Um, it's 655 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: going to be better if you can. But and I 656 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: also feel like I never wanted to react against men. 657 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be a woman or be a 658 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: girl and right from a girl's point of view and 659 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: such kind of like I can be like that, didn't. 660 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: I don't think reacting against something is good. I think 661 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: just come from within and be yourself. It's so exciting 662 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: to see you and in a lot of these roles 663 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: these days. Talk about some of the recent roles that 664 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: you've had, because I'm always so delighted, Molly when I 665 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: see you, and I think Oh, I'm so happy Molly 666 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: is in this. So let's talk about some of the 667 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: roles that you've done in in recent years. Promising Young Woman, 668 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: How was that? That was so fun? Emerald Fennel is 669 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: so talented. I read that script and I was like, 670 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so good. It's one of 671 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: those things that just you close that script and I 672 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: was like, I have to be in this movie. Um. 673 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: Originally she offered me a different part that I couldn't 674 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: do because the kids and my husband I were going 675 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: to Tokey took a vacation. But then she gave me 676 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: another part. Yes, I'm so excited to be in it. 677 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: She's so talented, and I was so happy to work 678 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: with Mike White and White Lotus recently. That was such 679 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: a blast. And Chris Kelly, who I do the other 680 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: two with on HBO Max. And then Chris wrote a 681 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: beautiful movie for me called Other People where I play. 682 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: It's based on his mother who died of cancer, and uh, 683 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: I play you know a wonderful part in that It's 684 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: it's It's one of my favorite performances. And then Mike 685 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: White wrote movies for me like You're the Dog. I 686 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: did Enlightened with Mike, a TV series with Lord Dern 687 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: and My love that show. It's so good. Yeah, I 688 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: played Mike White. Is on fire, isn't he? He's on fire? 689 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: He is? He is. He takes chances. He's really like 690 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny too. When I was writing my book, Katie, 691 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: he was like, Molly Vague, sentimental writing is not good writing. 692 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: So you know, make it rich, don't make it big. 693 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: You know. He was really encouraging um. But yeah, he 694 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: takes chances, and I think it's great because he ups 695 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 1: the game and writing. You know, people are like, what 696 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, he really he's brave. Meanwhile, Molly Shannon, you 697 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: have a new show on Showtime. Yes, show tell me it. 698 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 1: Don't give it away, baby, Okay, great baby. It's called 699 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: I Love That for you. And my character is Jackie 700 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: Vanessa Bear created a show. It's about her childhood and 701 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: overcoming child with leukemia and um. Basically, I play the 702 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: top saleswoman Jackie and it's it's all about the world 703 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: of home shopping network and it's fantastic and premieres at 704 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: the end of the month on Showtime. And Jennifer Lewis 705 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: is in It's all great cast and uh and I 706 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: love Vanessa too, by the way, And it's so exciting 707 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 1: because I guess in some ways, when you leave SNL, 708 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: you probably there's a part of you that thinks, is 709 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: that all there is? My friend? Yeah, little Peggy Lee 710 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: there for you, Molly. I like that. I like what 711 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean. You probably worry, like what's going to be next? 712 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: And you know, is this as good as it gets? 713 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: Hype thing? Oh? Sure? Yeah, But I had to say 714 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: getting that job so far exceeded my expectations for life 715 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: that I was just like I could actually like freeze 716 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: myself right there and just be so happy. Um, but yeah, 717 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: you do worry about that. But I also really wanted 718 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: a personal life and I didn't want my whole life 719 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: to just be working. I wanted to have kids, and 720 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: so I I just love being a mom. So I 721 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: am pretty laid back about that because my main focus 722 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: is like my kids and acting as more secondary to me, 723 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: and I think that gives that that's made it. Really 724 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: I'm pretty relaxed because that's a great that's a great 725 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: way to be in a great attitude to have because 726 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 1: sort of it's the it's gravy, right, because You've got 727 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: your priority straight. I met your daughter um at a 728 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: party this past summer. Remember we ran into each other 729 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: where Chris Martin was singing. I think he was singing 730 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: to me, Molly, I'm kidding. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. 731 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: I'm kidding. Okay, But how are your how are your 732 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: kids doing? My kids are so great. Stella is my 733 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: eighteen year old. She's going to college. She wants to 734 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: be an actress. I'm so proud of her. And my 735 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: son Nolan is just fantastic seventeen. He's a amazing uh 736 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: skate skater, surf He's gotten into surfing lately. He's very 737 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: athletic and just adorable. And they are the apple of 738 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: my eye. And I think I really appreciate it so 739 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: much because my mom didn't get to see us grow up. 740 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: So I get to watch my kids grow up, and 741 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: I just don't I really don't take it for granted. 742 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the best, you know, Yeah, I'm 743 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: really enjoying it. And I feel like you learned so 744 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: much about yourself as a mom. You know, I really 745 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: am enjoying it. I love learning and reading books and 746 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: I try to become a better parent, and I tried 747 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: to work on myself and become better every day. I 748 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 1: think the loss of your mom at such a young age, 749 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: I think obviously has given you this Jouis d avive 750 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: and and this appreciate ation of everything good in your life, 751 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: which is a really wonderful thing. Thank you, Katie, It's true. 752 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. Yeah. Once again, 753 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: a big thank you to Molly Shannon. Her new book 754 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: is called Hello Molly, and it's out now. You can 755 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: also capture on her new excellent TV show called I 756 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,959 Speaker 1: Love That for You on Showtime. So until next time 757 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: and my Next Question, I'm Katie Curry. 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