Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camera Judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.
Speaker 3: And Tam Judge here reporting from Big Bear, California, where
Speaker 3: the weather is cold.
Speaker 4: And I'm here in sunny Mexico. Well, the weather is
Speaker 4: a dream.
Speaker 3: Okay. That's why I have my sweater on, my brass
Speaker 3: stress falling off. I'm just a mess. I have two
Speaker 3: hours of press virtual press after this for Traders, which
Speaker 3: is airing this Friday. Guys on Peacock, the first three
Speaker 3: episodes are going to drop super excited about it.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're gonna drop all three at once like they
Speaker 2: did like Legacy. Yes, and then it's oh good Beingjing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be good. I haven't seen it. I'm
Speaker 3: so blond. We don't get to see screeners. We don't
Speaker 3: get to see the screeners there before. They're very top
Speaker 3: notch there, huh, very very secretive. And we had you remember,
Speaker 3: we had no phones, we had nothing, We couldn't take pictures.
Speaker 3: We can't see screeners, so very secretive over there.
Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait to see it. I think it's
Speaker 2: going to be really good because there's something that I
Speaker 2: wanted to let you know that happened. I'm not us
Speaker 2: trending on Twitter because of all. I mean, you should
Speaker 2: see the question.
Speaker 3: Because you know I got called a trader.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you got called a trader. But while while
Speaker 2: you were hashtag not making friends, I made a new
Speaker 2: friend who Kate Chestains my DMS chesting slid into my DMS.
Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you after you posted the thing about
Speaker 3: mus Stanley, Yeah here she said, oh my god, Teddy's
Speaker 3: such a good sport or something like that. I can't
Speaker 3: remember if to look at my phone. And then we
Speaker 3: started talking and and and I like, I know you'll
Speaker 3: love her, you know. And she's like, I don't know
Speaker 3: why she gets so much hate.
Speaker 4: She sent me a message.
Speaker 2: She's like I always wanted to have you know, I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 2: but she's like, I wanted to get in the world
Speaker 2: of commenting on these shows. And I you know, in hindsight,
Speaker 2: I feel bad for all the shit that I said
Speaker 2: about you, but you've always been such a good sport
Speaker 2: about it. And I was like, you have to be
Speaker 2: able to laugh at yourself. If I was mad at
Speaker 2: every mean tweet that I got. I would be like
Speaker 2: laying down in the fetal position twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: But then she was like, I was with someone at
Speaker 2: Bravo and we were actually talking about how much you
Speaker 2: and I would actually get along. And I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna count my chickens before they hatch,
Speaker 2: but this just feels like improvement.
Speaker 3: I know, Well, if it makes you feel any better.
Speaker 3: I don't think she particularly liked me when I met
Speaker 3: her at the first Ravocan twenty nineteen, because Brandy had
Speaker 3: said to me, yeah, Kate said you were a bitch
Speaker 3: to her or something like that. I'm like, what, And
Speaker 3: then I'm like, I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, this is a misunderstanding. So
Speaker 3: we started out on rocky ground as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think she had forgotten about because she
Speaker 2: said something like we've never even really met. I think
Speaker 2: my first Ravocon, my Squash the Beef, was with her.
Speaker 4: But I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't remember if it was that Bravocon
Speaker 2: or it was like a special watch what Happens Live episode, No,
Speaker 2: it was a Bravo kan.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even remember that, did you guys actually squash it?
Speaker 3: And what was the beef?
Speaker 4: I don't even remember the beef. She was saying things
Speaker 4: about she.
Speaker 2: Would live tweet during Beverly Hills and then like I
Speaker 2: popped off one time and so that it wasn't even
Speaker 2: a big beef. But the point is I've never had
Speaker 2: like other than her not liking me. I've never watched
Speaker 2: Below Deck. I don't have any big opinions on it.
Speaker 4: So I want you to.
Speaker 3: Go ahead and insult her. No, I've never watched your show.
Speaker 2: Well no, I'm excited because if a friend of Tam
Speaker 2: should be a friend of mine, but not according.
Speaker 4: To what we've been seeing on the world wide Web.
Speaker 4: So hard question. What is happening? What is happening?
Speaker 3: I don't even know where to start where. I can't
Speaker 3: give away too much because obviously you guys were going
Speaker 3: into production next week and I have a feeling this
Speaker 3: might be brought up. I will not talk the Shannon
Speaker 3: of it all, because obviously she is on the show
Speaker 3: and Vicki is not. So where it all started, Like
Speaker 3: I did you know? I said on the podcast months
Speaker 3: ago that I didn't really feel comfortable going and doing
Speaker 3: another trace in Mega show after Shannon's UI, I was
Speaker 3: pretty much strong armed into doing the show.
Speaker 2: I mean you had told us like you weren't going
Speaker 2: to do it. Even then You're like, I don't feel comfortable.
Speaker 3: I don't. I just didn't feel like it was it
Speaker 3: was a good idea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right right.
Speaker 3: So you know that obviously caused a little bit of tension,
Speaker 3: but ultimately I ended up doing it. You know, me
Speaker 3: and Shannon had a little falling out before Thanksgiving. It
Speaker 3: was nothing major. It was just kind of the icing
Speaker 3: on the cake for me where I couldn't hold back.
Speaker 3: I've done nothing to Vicki at all at all. When
Speaker 3: we did the last one in Phoenix. The last show
Speaker 3: in Phoenix, we had lunch with the manager they hired,
Speaker 3: not me. I was in Scotland. They hired a manager.
Speaker 4: They hired, oh like a manager for the live show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, an agency Paris. He's a very nice guy. Started
Speaker 3: at LLC, did all these things. I did not have
Speaker 3: anything to do with that bank account that I was
Speaker 3: refusing to give my information because I didn't know what
Speaker 3: my future was on this because quite frankly, I don't
Speaker 3: have the time and they were talking about doing you know,
Speaker 3: every other weekend going and traveling. I can't. I don't
Speaker 3: have the time for that. So I we had a
Speaker 3: meeting and we sat down in Arizona. It was and
Speaker 3: I basically said, you, I have a very busy schedule
Speaker 3: and then filming is going to start. I have Traders
Speaker 3: Press coming out, I have the Traders Reunion to do.
Speaker 3: And I said that I think that you should find
Speaker 3: a backup because I don't know how much I can
Speaker 3: commit to it. And then you know, the falling out
Speaker 3: with Shannon, and then I got a text message from
Speaker 3: the manager, the manager, not from me, not from Shannon,
Speaker 3: and it said, you know, hey, Tamra, there is there's
Speaker 3: an opportunity in Texas for you guys to do a show.
Speaker 3: And I said, you know, at this time, I I
Speaker 3: want to say goodbye to Tracey Vegas. I just it's
Speaker 3: not suiting me right now. After the last show experience,
Speaker 3: I just didn't feel comfortable and I thought it was
Speaker 3: time for me to move on. So not one of
Speaker 3: them reached out to me to ask me do this show.
Speaker 3: In fact, in his text message, he told me both
Speaker 3: Shannon and VICKI have agreed to do this show. And
Speaker 3: Doug and it all lies on you, which I thought
Speaker 3: was a pretty shitty thing to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you know.
Speaker 3: And when I did say no, not one of them
Speaker 3: called me to ask me, why, what's you know? I
Speaker 3: think they knew right what I'm trying to say. There
Speaker 3: was already some tension there now. I had told them
Speaker 3: at the meeting. I said, listen, I have a lot
Speaker 3: going on, and I do have this live podcast that
Speaker 3: we're doing that had been scheduled months ago.
Speaker 4: But let's also be clear, how long has two teas
Speaker 4: in a pod been going on? What are we are?
Speaker 4: We almost at three years?
Speaker 3: We're past two yeah, where we just yeah two years?
Speaker 4: We're over two years. So when we talk contracts and
Speaker 4: long term things, we are in a long term thing
Speaker 4: and we are going to go with the flow with
Speaker 4: what our employers say.
Speaker 2: The next step is. So if the next step is
Speaker 2: a live show, that's what it is. Right after we
Speaker 2: had such a ginormous bravocon of we're gonna take that
Speaker 2: next big thank for us. This is a business for us.
Speaker 3: This is a business for us. This is not like
Speaker 3: this is a special event. This is not like, oh,
Speaker 3: we're going on a world tour with us, like that
Speaker 3: that's not what.
Speaker 2: Was happening, but who knows what would what would come
Speaker 2: up it. But the point is both could have existed
Speaker 2: at the same time. This didn't take anything away from that,
Speaker 2: So you can't blame two teas in a pod. We
Speaker 2: got together and we were like, oh, f Vicky and Shannon,
Speaker 2: and we don't want them to do well. So now
Speaker 2: we're teaming up, like yeah, and of course, get your tickets.
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Speaker 4: But they both could have happened like that. That wasn't
Speaker 4: why this is the thing.
Speaker 3: They never reached out to me. Nothing, And I started
Speaker 3: texting with Vicki and she went respond to my text
Speaker 3: message and you flashed forward. And then Vicky starts shading
Speaker 3: me in the press a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 3: she said she was just basically saying, because she was
Speaker 3: asked back, she won't throw napkins and people's face, she
Speaker 3: won't swear at people. She was just insinuating, like you
Speaker 3: know things about me, And I thought, and I took
Speaker 3: the high road because I know how badly she wanted
Speaker 3: to be back on the show. I didn't want to
Speaker 3: add fuel to the fire and all that stuff. And
Speaker 3: then they announced their two women show on social media. Now,
Speaker 3: all Vicky did was send me a text message that
Speaker 3: was very mean. It went after my character. Now this
Speaker 3: is weeks ago after my character, and I'm like, whoa, okay, well,
Speaker 3: you know whatever. So when they announced their their show
Speaker 3: and then Vicky reposts something that said something about the
Speaker 3: two te holes or something like yeah, there shows, and
Speaker 3: I thought, how rude. So I just decided I was
Speaker 3: going to be a little cheeky. I didn't mention their
Speaker 3: live show. In fact, when people wrote about it or
Speaker 3: DM me about it, and I said, I hope some success,
Speaker 3: that's all I hope. And you know, they could have
Speaker 3: easily you know, all the comments were where's Tamra da
Speaker 3: da day? They could have easily said something. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: could have easily said like, you know, Tameras doesn't have
Speaker 3: the time right now, but they didn't. They just let
Speaker 3: people bash me. So I got cheeky and I said
Speaker 3: UNO does trace.
Speaker 4: And yeah, and then.
Speaker 3: All hell broke loose and I got a d M,
Speaker 3: not even Texas DM for Vicky, you know, going off
Speaker 3: on me. And I'm not going to read it or
Speaker 3: anything like that, but it was. It was pretty nasty,
Speaker 3: really nasty. Accused me of things that haven't done. And
Speaker 3: now they've been feeding stories to a certain somebody that
Speaker 3: has been bashing me, talking horribly about me. They have
Speaker 3: given private information about me to this person that is
Speaker 3: in return talking about me in a negative light, which
Speaker 3: I thought is really shitty. And then Vicky comes after
Speaker 3: me about my loyalty.
Speaker 2: I said, my loyalty, I have once supported you, and
Speaker 2: anything any supported about you was selfish for her.
Speaker 3: I have always been there for her always.
Speaker 2: Even at Bravo Con. You took up for Vicky, even
Speaker 2: after all shitty thing she's done to me.
Speaker 4: I was the one that got the call from you, Teddy.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't have done that with Vicky.
Speaker 2: You should have blah blah blah, just squashed the beef,
Speaker 2: even though she was repeatedly the one to come for me.
Speaker 2: And I realized that, you know, I have continuously said
Speaker 2: she's good television, she's these things. I've given compliments. She's
Speaker 2: never cared. But this is where I draw the line,
Speaker 2: because I did a little research of one of the
Speaker 2: things that Vicky said hurt her. The most throughout the
Speaker 2: years is when one of her castmates called her miss
Speaker 2: piggy when somebody went after her looks and what she's
Speaker 2: just done about me and calling me ugly and disgusting
Speaker 2: and a terrible human being, Like you know, with.
Speaker 3: Those of you that don't know, I shared the damns
Speaker 3: with Teddy and you know there was a part of
Speaker 3: there where Vicky she instantly goes after Teddy and said
Speaker 3: those things. So that's about all I can share with you,
Speaker 3: but just that she was ugly, and I'm like, what, really,
Speaker 3: who are you that anybody's looks like?
Speaker 2: I don't care sam noxious or say that I'm jealous
Speaker 2: of the friendship that you guys have formed, or whatever
Speaker 2: it is that you want to say, but pretending to
Speaker 2: be so above something and then going after somebody's looks,
Speaker 2: especially anybody that knows what I've been going. And I'm
Speaker 2: not playing the victim card here. I'm simply saying I've
Speaker 2: been through the hell for the last two weeks, yes,
Speaker 2: to then come to last year, but how I physically look,
Speaker 2: I would never and I have never ever, ever, like
Speaker 2: never once, never acted that way to her.
Speaker 3: And ironically, this conversation with her went down on January sixth.
Speaker 4: January six not a good day for her, and so.
Speaker 3: I just I just center a textao clear or and
Speaker 3: I said, clearly, January six, it's not a good day
Speaker 3: for you, and that.
Speaker 2: You ever respond it didn't go overwell, let's just put
Speaker 2: it that way.
Speaker 4: I didn't go over well.
Speaker 3: I'm just happy to be done. Like I said, I
Speaker 3: felt like I took the biggest up of my life
Speaker 3: and as I want, well.
Speaker 4: That's actually what I woke up to that tweet. Oh
Speaker 4: did okay?
Speaker 3: As I once said in a tagline, the best thing
Speaker 3: about starting over is never looking back.
Speaker 4: And that's how you feel.
Speaker 3: Really, that's how I feel. This is how I feel.
Speaker 3: It's a long time coming. Eddie is hugging me and
Speaker 3: clapping and doing all the things that I told you,
Speaker 3: so all of that. So I wish them all the
Speaker 3: luck in the world. I hope that their their show
Speaker 3: is successful. I want everybody to be successful. I want
Speaker 3: my friends, I want my enemies be successful. I don't
Speaker 3: care you put in the heart.
Speaker 4: There's room for everybody.
Speaker 3: There's room for everybody.
Speaker 4: But the exact writing is two teaholes have nothing on.
Speaker 2: Shannon Badoor, Vicky Gumfelson and Doug Buden Live, we know
Speaker 2: what show you'll be watching.
Speaker 4: In response, Tam screenshot.
Speaker 2: Of the story and wrote on X I always want
Speaker 2: to say Twitter, but I know on X my friend,
Speaker 2: my soulmate, my sister, my ass. I feel like I've
Speaker 2: just taken the biggest dump of my life.
Speaker 3: So relieved.
Speaker 2: And then somebody accused Tam of setting up the drama
Speaker 2: for Reural Housewives now County come on you guys.
Speaker 3: And then I had a good comeback.
Speaker 4: What was your comeback?
Speaker 3: We'll see who's coming next season?
Speaker 4: Burn Burn, babe, Burn.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's unfortunate, and you know I did upset
Speaker 3: my stomach for the day, but it was something that
Speaker 3: had to have been done. I you know, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: I don't want toxic people in my life. I don't
Speaker 3: want toxic friendships. I should say, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: want people talking behind my back. I just don't want that.
Speaker 3: You know, the show is a whole nother animal. But
Speaker 3: off the show, me Shannon and VICKI, there was a
Speaker 3: lot of shit talking about me, and I had had
Speaker 3: a conversation with them and said, if I find out
Speaker 3: one more time, one more time, this is when I
Speaker 3: got back in Scotland that you have talked shit behind
Speaker 3: my back. I'm done And it came back to me
Speaker 3: that something was said and I'm done.
Speaker 4: And I think that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, regardless of everybody that's in this heated type
Speaker 2: of situation and we're all talking shit and it all
Speaker 2: gets messy from time to time, but I do think
Speaker 2: there's a certain level of when somebody's your true friend,
Speaker 2: Like I can one hundred percent say I don't sit
Speaker 2: around talking shit about you. No. If you then I
Speaker 2: have any sort of like disappointment, we confront it, we
Speaker 2: go through it, because that's what adult human means. Do
Speaker 2: you have highs and loves and your friendships and it
Speaker 2: is what it is. But I truly believe you are
Speaker 2: a good friend to me, and if you're annoyed at me,
Speaker 2: you will say it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, there's a difference between having a friend group
Speaker 3: let's see you know more too, and one saying, oh god,
Speaker 3: she's bugging me today, Like that's one thing. I don't care.
Speaker 3: I'm sure get on people's nerves right to go after me,
Speaker 3: my character and things like that, when I've been nothing
Speaker 3: but loyal and caring and concerned. That's what?
Speaker 2: What is what about this? Where the Montana Henry's writes
Speaker 2: at Vicky Gumbelson took Shannon in, cared for her and
Speaker 2: when she broke her arm and was at her lowest,
Speaker 2: while Tamra befriended Shannon's ex new love interests while liking
Speaker 2: and commenting all over their post. Come on, Tamra one,
Speaker 2: you were at traders.
Speaker 3: When I was at traders. It's a complete why. That's
Speaker 3: something that's been swirling around. I made up with a Lexus.
Speaker 3: We've talked about this for at brabocon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at Bravocon, and then I have I have to
Speaker 4: ask a question.
Speaker 2: I know you don't like to talk about her, but
Speaker 2: at this point I do need to understand a little
Speaker 2: bit why Kelly Dodd has entered the chat, because now
Speaker 2: Kelly Dodd isn't just coming after you, She's coming after me.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, what what skin do I have in
Speaker 4: this fight? Like where?
Speaker 3: Because because Vicky feeds her stuff to talk about, that's why,
Speaker 3: and I that's all I'm going to say. And that's
Speaker 3: what was really kind of a deal breaker to me.
Speaker 3: This is a person that's gone after me, my husband,
Speaker 3: my children, my mother. I mean, in such a disgusting
Speaker 3: way that is not even you can't even wrap your
Speaker 3: head around it, Like who talks like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for somebody who supposedly did her so dirty
Speaker 2: and said these terrible things about her, now she's going
Speaker 2: to bring her in to do more dirty work for her. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it just I don't know. The whole thing feels very icky.
Speaker 2: And let's take a quick break and then we'll come
Speaker 2: back for the rest of the headlines. Before we get
Speaker 2: into the episodes, we have a couple of extra questions.
Speaker 2: When I just pulled up my Instagram, a lot of
Speaker 2: people ask me who am I on this trip with?
Speaker 3: I Please tell us who you're on the trip with?
Speaker 3: What trip you're on?
Speaker 2: I am on Kyle Richard's birthday trip. We're at a
Speaker 2: place in Mexico, which after we leave this place, we
Speaker 2: will say the exact location because because you know, Fronzi,
Speaker 2: ain't that nice when they be posting photos of and
Speaker 2: kini's and all kinds of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in Mexico, I've had that.
Speaker 2: It's not a great angle any of the time. And
Speaker 2: then who's here? It's myself, it's our friend Nicole, who
Speaker 2: you've met Jen, you know Jana, Tina and Morgan and Kyle.
Speaker 2: How are you gone? We come back Thursday afternoon. I
Speaker 2: have I had to come back Thursday because Dove has
Speaker 2: her entrance exam into Peak into t K.
Speaker 4: It's very intense.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what kind of testing are you going to
Speaker 2: give her? Like she can't even write her name, Like,
Speaker 2: what kind of testing is this? They're like nine am
Speaker 2: testing starts. I'm like like over zoom.
Speaker 4: No, I have to go to the new school place
Speaker 4: she has to get tested.
Speaker 2: Wait do I give her Storia will be four February
Speaker 2: twenty fifth, so she'd start high school and in August,
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: And then kindergarten the next year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my, I mean, who knows.
Speaker 2: Uh. But it's been pretty nice, relaxing. Everybody's working out
Speaker 2: on the trip. Nobody's caused drama about it.
Speaker 3: I have a guilty pleasure to admit what. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: blame you. I'm gonna blame Kayden, I'm gonna blame Lisa Barlowe.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna blame all of you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, diet coke. Ha I did not.
Speaker 3: Drink soda for twenty something years. My kids do not
Speaker 3: drink were did not grow up on soda, do not
Speaker 3: drink soda, And Cayden was out and I drank dit
Speaker 3: soda and then next thing, I know, it's kind of addicting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no shit, It's like when you gave me a
Speaker 2: hard time about Taco Bell.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 3: I'm not going there. We'll not going there.
Speaker 4: You've said other things, But I feel like there's a way.
Speaker 2: If I'm going to get you to try one bean
Speaker 2: and cheesebriado, no onion, snow tomatoes, add sour cream, You're
Speaker 2: gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Only I'm getting to the point where I'm smuggling into
Speaker 3: the house.
Speaker 4: No, does Eddie know about it yet?
Speaker 3: Well I ordered one out one day and he goes,
Speaker 3: are you I can't believe what? And I go, I know,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's it's happening.
Speaker 4: Okay. The next question is if you had to pick
Speaker 4: one to rekindle a relationship with, would it be Shannon
Speaker 4: or VICKI are you paused? Hello? Is this thing on
Speaker 4: actually want you to throw?
Speaker 3: Want you throw Gretchen in there?
Speaker 4: Gretchen Vicky or Shannon?
Speaker 3: Gretchen?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, You've never even let me say her name
Speaker 4: on the pod.
Speaker 3: Oh, because I don't need to see the reason.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: So now I'm in a place that now I need
Speaker 2: to turn the air conditioning up. I'm getting sweating, I'm
Speaker 2: starting I can't. Just so you guys know, I'm still
Speaker 2: so broke down. I can't get deodorant onto my left armpit.
Speaker 2: So unless I have a friend that's willing to come
Speaker 2: over and just put deodoran onto my.
Speaker 4: Left armpit, my left side is not the best.
Speaker 3: Well, how are you maneuvering that? In Mexico?
Speaker 4: I mean, I haven't really done much.
Speaker 2: Luckily, they've set up like a little spot for me
Speaker 2: outside where there's absolutely no sun and I can go
Speaker 2: and read and hang and listen to music and play
Speaker 2: games and do all the things that we do, but
Speaker 2: not be in the sun and not have to be
Speaker 2: super active. So I feel like this is just a
Speaker 2: longer recovery.
Speaker 4: But the food here's delicious, all right.
Speaker 2: The next thing we need to talk about is Crystal
Speaker 2: on The Real Housewives of Every Hills Live Show. Durite says,
Speaker 2: I am a fan of Sutton, and Chris makes a face.
Speaker 2: Durite says it was a lesson learned with Garcel and
Speaker 2: Crystal says, I also felt Garcel's pain. I know what
Speaker 2: it's like to be on that end. It happened to
Speaker 2: me in this group, so it's important to me to
Speaker 2: be there for Garcel and let her know I support her.
Speaker 2: Crystal says no one rallied with her her first year,
Speaker 2: and Durit replies, we have discussed this. Crystal tells Durite
Speaker 2: that she wants to sit and listen but appreciate her
Speaker 2: apologizing even though she didn't have the intention of hurting her.
Speaker 4: I mean I think that.
Speaker 2: That well, I think you know, Crystal saying, I'm going
Speaker 2: to have ourselves back in this because I feel how
Speaker 2: she was feeling is a way of her without saying
Speaker 2: it going even though Garcel didn't have my back when
Speaker 2: I felt a certain way about things, sut and said, yeah,
Speaker 2: like I'm still going to do the right thing.
Speaker 3: That is the only headline. It has been a slow newsweek. Actually,
Speaker 3: there has been breaking news today about Joey Gorga.
Speaker 4: He will let me track.
Speaker 3: He stormed in on his son's wrestling match. He was
Speaker 3: actually a son, looked like a son was pinned down,
Speaker 3: and Joey ran out there and got into a fight.
Speaker 3: With the referee saying it was unfair and they kicked him.
Speaker 4: Out, so it says real health.
Speaker 2: New Jersey star jumped from the bleachers to confront the
Speaker 2: ref after his son was pinned by the opponent.
Speaker 4: Guys, everyone needs to lay off the caffeine if this
Speaker 4: is well.
Speaker 3: Have you I remember going to sports events with my
Speaker 3: kids when they were younger, and some parents really get
Speaker 3: hyped up.
Speaker 4: I mean I get really hyped up, like, but I
Speaker 4: get hyped up from it.
Speaker 3: Do you interfere it the the game?
Speaker 4: Okay? On team on team sports? No, I will sometimes
Speaker 4: like yell like what's that call? Wrap?
Speaker 2: You know, but like from my seat when it comes
Speaker 2: to stuff with slate, I don't know if this is
Speaker 2: the healthiest way to do it. But like, she's somebody
Speaker 2: that thrives is gonna I'm gonna sound like the worst,
Speaker 2: but she thrives with.
Speaker 4: Like constructed criticism.
Speaker 2: So it's like if she does good, but then she, like,
Speaker 2: you know, the good score gets like an eighty eight,
Speaker 2: and if she gets like in eighty two, she's like, mom,
Speaker 2: I know that means I'm gonna be like fifth.
Speaker 4: And then she'll sit there for a little bit and
Speaker 4: she'll be like what was I good?
Speaker 2: And I'm like yeah, and she's like she can't take it,
Speaker 2: like she needs more, Like well, then why didn't I
Speaker 2: get this?
Speaker 3: So she's just like you, Yeah, so she's like.
Speaker 2: Why didn't I get the eighty eight? And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: to be honest, I don't know what you were doing
Speaker 2: in that corner. Your body was all moving around, the
Speaker 2: horse looked nervous, like then you were a little deep
Speaker 2: to this jump.
Speaker 4: And but like she appreciates that.
Speaker 3: Well it's cruse criticism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Cruz one million percent isn't interested, Like he's like,
Speaker 2: this is how many.
Speaker 4: Balls I caught? This is what I got.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to do We need to come
Speaker 3: up with the new reality show horse Moms. Horse Moms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the craziest you'd pull. You realize that.
Speaker 2: That's how I know Angie, who's also joining our live show,
Speaker 2: is because she is always.
Speaker 3: Who you also have met my next door neighbor me Agan.
Speaker 3: She is a horse mom. I could already cast this show.
Speaker 2: I mean we could, we could, We could make it
Speaker 2: happen and you would be shocked by the level of craziness.
Speaker 3: I'll take another sip of my diet coke.
Speaker 4: Take another sip.
Speaker 2: The fact that you're hiding diet coke in there is
Speaker 2: even more concerning.
Speaker 3: I had to put it under my sweater kidding.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to girls trip because I feel like
Speaker 2: we can blow right through this.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 2: If I brought my husband a popsicle and he gave
Speaker 2: it to someone that looked like Luyanne, his other popsicle
Speaker 2: would not be seeing any action for a very long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Then Dorenda wants to see a jigglow in action, Martin
Speaker 2: points out what exactly it's a male as it's a
Speaker 2: male escort or social companion.
Speaker 4: What was actually going on with Sonya this episode? Why
Speaker 4: did she have such rage?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I never heard women
Speaker 3: talk about getting late more than Luna and Sonya. But
Speaker 3: she needed a little action.
Speaker 2: But even when they're in the jan Zuo relaxation therapy
Speaker 2: and they're all laughing at each other thinking that their
Speaker 2: tits don't look the same like flotation devices.
Speaker 4: Youation devices are showing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, like, all of yours, aren't, ladies, I had
Speaker 2: you all got the same fake titties and the same
Speaker 2: fake teeth.
Speaker 4: This is what happens.
Speaker 2: But Sonia's acting like this is her last day of
Speaker 2: school and she doesn't care and she's over it and
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to listen to one thing anybody has
Speaker 2: to say, Like it's just like I don't want like
Speaker 2: every single thing, like anyone could be talking, and she's like, nap,
Speaker 2: we moved on, I'm done talking to you back here like.
Speaker 3: She she was a little cranky, that's for sure. That
Speaker 3: is for sure.
Speaker 4: She needs to be so cranked up.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe she was sad because it was
Speaker 3: the last day and they were going home. They have
Speaker 3: to go back to reality.
Speaker 2: Then Kristin asked what the deal breakers they have all
Speaker 2: have with women Kristin.
Speaker 4: Kristin, of course, brings it back to the show, saying she.
Speaker 2: Had a close friend for years who couldn't be happy
Speaker 2: for her when she was on the show. Then Sonya
Speaker 2: interrupts and asked Ramona her deal breakers. Derenda tells Sonya
Speaker 2: that she went on for thirty minutes the night before
Speaker 2: and they listened. Why can't she listen when other people
Speaker 2: are talking. Between this and the way that Ramona talked
Speaker 2: to Martin when he lost her white bathing suit.
Speaker 4: If I was any of that crew, I would, oh, well.
Speaker 3: The real Ramona, Yeah, the real Ramona finally stood up.
Speaker 4: She was I want to be like I listen, I
Speaker 4: wore that bathing suit yesterday.
Speaker 2: It's from p Q Swim. It's one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: nine dollars. I'm pretty sure if you look through it
Speaker 2: you can find it. But there's also nothing unique about it,
Speaker 2: which is why I bought. I'm basic, bitch, like, calm down, yeah,
Speaker 2: and what are you gonna wear it again right now?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Do you have any friends who couldn't
Speaker 3: handle being on the show? Couldn't handle you being on
Speaker 3: the show?
Speaker 4: Uh? That couldn't handle me being on the show.
Speaker 2: No, I would say, nothing having to do with the show,
Speaker 2: but because I am so set in my ways about
Speaker 2: the way I feel about doing things at night, Like
Speaker 2: before the show, I would like have like a weekly
Speaker 2: night that I would hang out with my girlfriends, and
Speaker 2: then once the show came it I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: I said, listen, well, we can pick a day that
Speaker 2: we go hiking or we do whatever. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm out three to four nights a week already, and
Speaker 2: I cannot do it, like I'm being paid to be out.
Speaker 2: I will go out, but like then the next night
Speaker 2: if you want me to go out, like I'm not
Speaker 2: your girl. But if you want someone to go to
Speaker 2: breakfast and a hike or even a boozy lunch, I'm there,
Speaker 2: but I'm tired. I'm not a late night person. And
Speaker 2: one of them took like stream offense to it and said, like,
Speaker 2: I find that really selfish, and I had to I mean,
Speaker 2: it's taken as years, but finally had to say, like,
Speaker 2: you have to understand I have to protect like who
Speaker 2: I am as like an individual, and me going out
Speaker 2: every night and drinking is not the best of me.
Speaker 3: Well you can't do your mom, your wife, like your sister.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're an asshole. Like I got to prep all
Speaker 4: my asshole as.
Speaker 3: I definitely had people in my life that couldn't handle
Speaker 3: me being on the show, didn't like me being on
Speaker 3: the show, took a back seat. I feel like now
Speaker 3: we've you know, we're all good friends. Some I don't
Speaker 3: talk to anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean I think it comes and goes,
Speaker 2: and I think it also depends. Like there was a time,
Speaker 2: which granted, I know we talk about it all the
Speaker 2: time because we have this podcast, but where it did
Speaker 2: consume me, like every conversation was like, oh, then this happened,
Speaker 2: and this happened, and then I realized, like, you have
Speaker 2: to stop to it.
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think that I will put the blame
Speaker 3: on me as well some of my friends, just because
Speaker 3: when you're in it, the show is it really does
Speaker 3: sume your life. And that's one thing going back. I
Speaker 3: don't let it consume my life anymore. Yeah, and get
Speaker 3: to the point where I would talk about it and
Speaker 3: talk about it and talk to my friends about it,
Speaker 3: and of course all your friends want to know, like
Speaker 3: what's going on. Then you talk about it and they're
Speaker 3: like that's all she talks about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they want to know.
Speaker 2: But then like then once they hear it all the time,
Speaker 2: it's like that's all she's got. Yeah, back to a
Speaker 2: girls trip. I think once we get to the astrologist,
Speaker 2: I didn't even get to hear one thing she said.
Speaker 2: Did she even say anything other than like, you know what,
Speaker 2: Kristen and Kelly, they seem to either not get along
Speaker 2: or get along. I'm like I could have given.
Speaker 3: That reading it was all acroc of shit. Like Helen,
Speaker 3: Kelly and Kristen are similar personalities, they couldn't be more
Speaker 3: opposite to me.
Speaker 2: I think that that astrologist single handedly ruined astrology for
Speaker 2: me when she said Ramona was the most diplomatic. I
Speaker 2: was like, I was like, what's your name and what's
Speaker 2: your email? I'm going to need to learn a little
Speaker 2: bit more about you and he. But then we get
Speaker 2: to parts that I like, like land facetiming the pirate Thomas.
Speaker 4: I miss when he looked like a pirate. He looked
Speaker 4: like a regular guy, now.
Speaker 3: A regular guy. But then I mean, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 3: it out here. The Girls trump is starting to feel
Speaker 3: a little stale to me.
Speaker 1: Mhm.
Speaker 3: I feel like at this point they're saying and doing things,
Speaker 3: like certain things just for the show.
Speaker 4: I have to say this, and I'm not listen. I'm
Speaker 4: not a producer, I'm not in charge here.
Speaker 2: But I think having an entire cast that was once
Speaker 2: together or pieced together isn't where the Fun Girls trip happens.
Speaker 2: Like I think why there was magic and the one
Speaker 2: with You or the one that Kyle did is because
Speaker 2: it was so many mismatched personalities.
Speaker 4: That don't know each other, don't know what to expect.
Speaker 2: They expect they're going to have these relationships because of
Speaker 2: what they've seen on TV, and they come in and
Speaker 2: it's different, and I like that.
Speaker 4: And I mean even.
Speaker 2: Cynthia getting her feelings hurt because she thought she would
Speaker 2: go in with her best friend and it would be
Speaker 2: this closeness and then it wasn't.
Speaker 4: Like all of that is real.
Speaker 2: But like what we're seeing here, these women just seem like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I got a lot I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I get it. They were taken off
Speaker 3: air and people there was you know, people were pissed
Speaker 3: off and they were mad about it. So they gave
Speaker 3: them a chance with Ultimate Girl's Trip to do that,
Speaker 3: which I think is really cool doing a legacy show.
Speaker 3: I just felt like it just got a little stale,
Speaker 3: like I don't know, I don't know that we needed
Speaker 3: to reenact or recreate the Scary Island and go back
Speaker 3: to the same place. Like I would rather just see
Speaker 3: them do the Legacy show in New York, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if it's if we're going to do that,
Speaker 2: then that's really doing I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I actually would like to see those girls
Speaker 3: in New York doing, you know, maybe a six episode,
Speaker 3: you know, Real Housewives of New York Legacy, not Ultimate
Speaker 3: Girls Trip Legacy. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think I don't know.
Speaker 2: But then we get Sonia tells Ramona that they both
Speaker 2: know they're getting laid when they get home. Ramona says
Speaker 2: that the other ladies can use their hands. Sonia questions
Speaker 2: why Ramona doesn't use a vibrator. Are you team vibrator
Speaker 2: or no vibrator when necessary?
Speaker 3: Vibrator?
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm team cockering. Always get it on Amazon. They're
Speaker 2: paint disposable.
Speaker 3: What the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you haven't tried the pink disposable cockerings
Speaker 4: on Amazon for yourself? No, it's for your partner to you.
Speaker 3: Well, we're not talking about that.
Speaker 2: We're talking about I'm just asking general, like an additional thing.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 2: Oh, but you're fine to say that you're going to
Speaker 2: use a vibrator, but you'd hate to say that, would
Speaker 2: you use a cock ring?
Speaker 3: I don't talk about marital sex. You.
Speaker 2: You know what, sometimes when we're talking I just want
Speaker 2: to take the biggest dump of my life and I
Speaker 2: feel better about it, but either way, I could have
Speaker 2: done without Luanne. You know, I'm happy that she hooked
Speaker 2: up with my annu. Hold on, we also have to
Speaker 2: talk about how comfortable Luanna is smoking a full blown
Speaker 2: sig on camera.
Speaker 4: That is like pretty unheard a very rarely.
Speaker 3: Especially for the housewife world.
Speaker 4: They'll do that.
Speaker 3: I mean, the footage shows that she hooked up with
Speaker 3: the chef and then was he walking around naked?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I have to say, you look better with
Speaker 2: clothes on. I kind of done without seeing his but
Speaker 2: I don't need to see his bear. But it was
Speaker 2: full saltburn, like what is happening here?
Speaker 3: And did he not realize that there was a camera there?
Speaker 2: Realized there was a camera there? He thought that was
Speaker 2: his best shot. I was like, oh, for the love
Speaker 2: of men's okay, pale.
Speaker 3: But okay, so real Quickly, how would you rate the
Speaker 3: four Ultimate Girls trips that have aired? Season one was
Speaker 3: with Kyle. Were they in the Bahamas or I don't know,
Speaker 3: Turks and Capa, I can't remember they were? And then
Speaker 3: season two in the Berkshires with That's when I was on,
Speaker 3: and then we went to the Miami. What was the
Speaker 3: other one? With the Miami Girls, they went to Thailand,
Speaker 3: and then most recently the New York Girls.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to say for sure my favorite, Sorry Tam,
Speaker 2: it's not you, but my favorite was the very first
Speaker 2: one because it felt the most just like the girls
Speaker 2: having fun and there wasn't that much fighting. It was
Speaker 2: more just like haphazard, like the way the women trying
Speaker 2: to connect. So I love that because I got to
Speaker 2: see a different side of every housewife.
Speaker 4: My second favorite one was yours because then it was
Speaker 4: like it was messy.
Speaker 2: There was enough mess, but there was also enough like
Speaker 2: respect and like appreciation of each other that you kind
Speaker 2: of got to get through it. And then I guess
Speaker 2: legacy and then I mean, Thailand to me was.
Speaker 4: Brutal, like I did not. I don't think that I
Speaker 4: remember enjoying one episode of Thailand.
Speaker 2: Well I Candice wearing that outfit and doing the dance,
Speaker 2: But I can't say for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah I can't.
Speaker 4: It's a blur to me.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say I think I enjoyed mine before first,
Speaker 3: not because I was in a brag, No, I just
Speaker 3: enjoyed it better. And then of course the one in
Speaker 3: Turks and Kikos then it's kind of a tie between
Speaker 3: Ultimate Girls Trip, I mean a New York legacy and Thailand?
Speaker 3: Is that which one I can't remember?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But question, do you think we are never going to
Speaker 2: see the Carolyn Manzell one? Do you think that's gone?
Speaker 2: Because now that I mean, we're not going to fully
Speaker 2: talk about this, but we've seen a go It's shits
Speaker 2: hit the fan all over social media when it comes
Speaker 2: to Brandy, she did something with Bryce Sander. How this
Speaker 2: has really ft with her? And I'm not belittling her
Speaker 2: experience or any of those things, Like I truly do
Speaker 2: believe she thought she was coming in to do the
Speaker 2: same job she's always done. But the problem is we
Speaker 2: don't live in a world that we always have lived in.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I get that, but you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: one to say somebody's guilty before we have all the evidence.
Speaker 3: So the one thing is is like all the every
Speaker 3: girl in the cast is sticking up for her. They
Speaker 3: were all there. I don't know, we haven't heard. You know,
Speaker 3: it's difficult and in Brandy's situation, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your tongue tied, You're in a situation. No, I
Speaker 2: hope that we get to see it play out. I
Speaker 2: just don't know that we are going to because once
Speaker 2: too many things get crossed. I just I don't imagine
Speaker 2: it's going to happen. I do think Brandy is excellent television.
Speaker 3: We have a group chat still from our Season two
Speaker 3: Ultimate Girls.
Speaker 4: Trip, and she's just all talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we all chat on there, and just from
Speaker 3: you know, she's having like almost autoimmune issues from the stress,
Speaker 3: and her skin are swelling and she's got welts on
Speaker 3: her face. It's it's sad. I don't want to see
Speaker 3: anybody go through that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody wants to go through help, but you guys,
Speaker 2: we have to wrap on that note. So thank you
Speaker 2: guys for tuning in. Make sure that you get live
Speaker 2: show tickets to our show, but go to ticketmaster dot
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Speaker 3: Trying to end up in Alcatraz.
Speaker 4: We'll see how that goes.