WEBVTT - Playoff Preview 2025

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<v Speaker 1>This crowd rises to its being what Barlow slamming it? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Carl left wing, free ball, perfect pop.

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<v Speaker 2>The block, the shot at the rim, how with the

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<v Speaker 2>left hand and of fowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Chase Doown Podcast, part of the CAZ Media family.

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<v Speaker 3>We finally have some clarity about who the Cavs first

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<v Speaker 3>round opponent is going to be. We've at least eliminated

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<v Speaker 3>to really from the mix h The Chicago Bulls lost

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<v Speaker 3>to the Miami Heat just before we started recording this.

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<v Speaker 3>Orlando Magic beat the Atlanta Hawks yesterday, so we know

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<v Speaker 3>the Caves will be playing one of the Atlanta Hawks

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<v Speaker 3>or the Miami Heat. Joining me today to the attempt

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<v Speaker 3>to break down this first round is my co host

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<v Speaker 3>Carter Rodrigue.

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<v Speaker 2>Carter, how are you doing, buddy?

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<v Speaker 1>Attempt? It sounds like you're not sure we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's honestly the weirdest preview that we've done, because

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<v Speaker 3>going into the playing we knew exactly who we're playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Going into the nixt series, we knew who that they

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<v Speaker 3>were going to play. We had a full week, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to break that down. We were able to do the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing for the Orlando Magic. This is really the

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<v Speaker 3>first time that you know, we're going into a series

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we're going to find out two.

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<v Speaker 2>Days before We're going.

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<v Speaker 3>To find out two days before Sunday who the Cavs

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<v Speaker 3>are playing. And I'm interested to see what that dynamic

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<v Speaker 3>is really like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think you could be guilty of accusing

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Silver of too often listening to podcasters and worrying

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<v Speaker 1>about what podcasters want. Talk about an inverted situation, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the monkey paw curly. You might be right there for

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<v Speaker 1>everyone but podcasters.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here here's the funny thing, because Richard Jefferson brought

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<v Speaker 3>this up on the tonight about how the Miami Heat,

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<v Speaker 3>if they do make it through and if they are

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<v Speaker 3>able to beat the Atlanta Hawks on Friday, they're basically

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<v Speaker 3>going to be on the road eight days coming into

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<v Speaker 3>game one of the playoffs. That is quite the disadvantage.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously, you know, if you're going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>ten seed in the play in and earn your way

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<v Speaker 3>to the playoffs, you should have to climb an uphill

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that should be an uphill battle. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>feeling any sympathy for them, but when you talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the cows inability to really prepare specifically for one team,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure now they're going to be in the process

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<v Speaker 3>of game planning for both the Hawks and the Heat.

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<v Speaker 3>I still think that the lower seed is definitely at

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<v Speaker 3>a disadvantage here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no kidding, It's going to be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I am now. You know, you never know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how you feel about this stuff till the dust settles.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's like when you're when you're when you're partner

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<v Speaker 1>and you are talking about restaurants and you've you've listed

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<v Speaker 1>two that you'd be okay with, and then they pick

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<v Speaker 1>one and you go, ah, that's not the one I wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you didn't really realize it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>one you wanted till someone picked the other one. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feel that way about the Orlando Magic. The

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<v Speaker 1>second they stop being available, I was like, I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of glad I don't have to deal.

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<v Speaker 2>With that, Okay, So it's basically.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an inverse scenario. I've I recognize that on the

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<v Speaker 3>front end as much as I want to, you know, show, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a different situation than it was last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's be honest, No, Geelan Suggs, that changes the complexion

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<v Speaker 3>of the series. I already know that this is a

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<v Speaker 3>better cast team than it was last year. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>no more Wagner like if what's the point of beating

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<v Speaker 3>the Orlando Magic in five games if you can't rub

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<v Speaker 3>it in most face, like, it's not the same when

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<v Speaker 3>he's on the bench. So I'm more than half be

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<v Speaker 3>to see the Boston Celtics go up against the Orlando Magic.

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<v Speaker 3>And even if that series goes four or five games,

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<v Speaker 3>physically it's probably going to feel like a six game

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<v Speaker 3>series because that that is just what it's like to

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<v Speaker 3>play Orlando.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, one can hope that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>battle of attrition that is the playoffs takes its toll

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<v Speaker 1>on the Celtics. Obviously don't want to root for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to get hurt. But you know, it's hard work playing

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<v Speaker 1>those Magic It sucks. They hack more than any other

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<v Speaker 1>team in the league. It's a key part of their identity.

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<v Speaker 1>And for a team that has struggled with the injury bug, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of nice to avoid that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta is a pretty physical team too, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>they'll beat you up a little bit. Daniels will get

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<v Speaker 1>into the passing lanes. But you know, I do think

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<v Speaker 1>there's still a pretty big difference between that in Orlando

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, and you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>also just more spots on the Atlanta team to attack,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So overall, definitely happy to see Orlando. I

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty indifferent. I didn't think Chicago was getting getting

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<v Speaker 1>out of this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually did.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Chicago had a real chance because when you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at the post All Star Break stretch, they were

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<v Speaker 3>almost like March doesn't matter, justin they were seventeen and ten.

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<v Speaker 3>They you know, post All Star breaks, number ten offense,

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<v Speaker 3>number fourteen defense. You know, they were trending in the

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<v Speaker 3>right direction here, and you know, some of it I

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<v Speaker 3>think is, hey, the Miami Heat, they are tough to

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<v Speaker 3>kill no matter who is available for them. They always

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<v Speaker 3>seem to get one game off of a team in

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<v Speaker 3>a playoff series. They always seem to find a way

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<v Speaker 3>to squeeze a little bit more life out of that

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<v Speaker 3>towel and find a way to extend their season. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not surprised to see them win, But part of

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<v Speaker 3>me wondered, hey, you know, there's no Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 2>Butler this time around.

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<v Speaker 3>They've kind of had a tiring, tiring season. Are are

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<v Speaker 3>they ready to just kind of check out as the

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<v Speaker 3>ten seed going into the play And you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>answer that we got tonight is absolutely not. I'm actually

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<v Speaker 3>curious to ask you about this because we've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>the play in the last couple of years, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think we both have generally been fans of it, as

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<v Speaker 3>your opinion evolved at all, now that we have more

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<v Speaker 3>of a sample size, like I think, coming in, both

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<v Speaker 3>of us liked it, and then the Cavs got eliminated

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<v Speaker 3>in the play in, and even despite that, I was

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<v Speaker 3>still saying, sitting here saying I think this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a net good for the league. Do you still

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way? I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this year wasn't maybe the most sterling example

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<v Speaker 1>for it just because there was such a difference between

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<v Speaker 1>seven through ten and eleven through fifteen in each conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Where where there wasn't you know, you didn't see Toronto

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<v Speaker 1>desperately trying to get into the play in. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I've liked about it is that the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>the lower middle class of the league is less likely

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<v Speaker 1>to tank if they have a couple of postseason games

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<v Speaker 1>of revenue that they might be able to chase.

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<v Speaker 2>So you didn't have that, But.

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<v Speaker 1>What you did have at West is this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>vicious race from the third seed to the eight seed

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<v Speaker 1>trying to desperately avoid it and the other. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that it did more, I thought it did

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<v Speaker 1>more to help with tanking than lottery of reform. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also think what it did was it made it

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<v Speaker 1>so there's six playoff spots, not not ten. Everyone's complaining

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<v Speaker 1>that there's no ten. I'm saying there's only six. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a six and a wild card and that,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I think that tension was really really good

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<v Speaker 1>out West. So even in a year where I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was perfect for like selling the play in,

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<v Speaker 1>I still think it's a net good. It's It's funny

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<v Speaker 1>because I think one this being such a great draft

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<v Speaker 1>class probably shifted incentives for some of those lower teams.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think in the Eastern Conference, if Orlando

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<v Speaker 1>was healthier for the majority of the season, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you have a seventh team and you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a little bit of a race to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>the play in right like Detroit with their forty four

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty eight record, that's the exact same record that

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<v Speaker 1>the Cavs had when they were the eight seed and

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<v Speaker 1>lost in the play in right like. Normally that gets

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<v Speaker 1>pushed down a little bit further. If Philadelphia was healthier,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have, you know, another team in that mix.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, as much as I hate to ever credit

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<v Speaker 1>the Toronto Raptors, if that team was healthy and had

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<v Speaker 1>their full roster available to them, you know, Emmanuel quickly, RJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Barrett Brandon Ingram.

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<v Speaker 2>You're missing the elephant in the room. Philly. I already

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<v Speaker 2>said Philly. Oh, you said Philly. Okay, I led with them,

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<v Speaker 2>good sir. Oh, actually I led with Orlando.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I heard Orlando in Toronto. I didn't hear

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<v Speaker 1>anything about Philly.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure I had them in there. If not,

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<v Speaker 3>that's on me, So thank you to hold this man accountable.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't hold me accountable if I'm wrong though, No, it's okay,

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, having those extra teams in the mix

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<v Speaker 3>would have caused more of that race for six.

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<v Speaker 2>And really, the way that.

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<v Speaker 3>I look at it is it's more of a punishment

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<v Speaker 3>for seven and eight than it is a reward for

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<v Speaker 3>nine and ten. Like, you know, you're really setting up

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<v Speaker 3>that you know your season can fall apart in two games,

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<v Speaker 3>so you better try like hell to avoid this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know it does give Let's say, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>EMBIID didn't have to be shut down for the year

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<v Speaker 3>and they could kind of stick around in that nine

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<v Speaker 3>tenth spot allows it a good team that just had

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<v Speaker 3>bad injury luck to have a chance to come in.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously that sucks for whoever sitting there in the one seed,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's it's not like we haven't seen those scenarios before.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like it's a net positive and in

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<v Speaker 3>generally enjoy the games, and I feel like there has

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<v Speaker 3>been some really good playing games over over the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years, and there's also been some really good

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<v Speaker 3>game maybe two. It's as bad as some of them

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<v Speaker 3>March in April. Basketball can be when there it's teams

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<v Speaker 3>in that race, particularly when they're playing against one another,

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<v Speaker 3>you can get some really really good basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and even like when it's not both teams that

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<v Speaker 1>are participating, but you know, Harrison Barnes hits a game

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<v Speaker 1>winner against Golden State pushes them into the play in

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<v Speaker 1>now they now they have to fight for their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they get a very green young Rockets team to

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<v Speaker 1>go up against, and it's going to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the old age versus beauty type of matchup. And like,

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<v Speaker 1>now you get something really interesting based off a game

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<v Speaker 1>that in you know, the old days.

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<v Speaker 2>Just would be well whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Like I do think there is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of net benefit and you know, I think almost you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're really not even seeing the discord us about the

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<v Speaker 1>play anymore. I feel like it was just a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>universally successful initiative.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I've seen like the odd bad faith kind

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<v Speaker 3>of argument, But in general, I feel like this is

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<v Speaker 3>something that you know, as we get more years of

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<v Speaker 3>experience with it, right, as it becomes more and more normalized.

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<v Speaker 3>People once something no longer feels new, they stop feeling

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<v Speaker 3>the need to pick it apart, and it just gets

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<v Speaker 3>accepted as part of the game. And I like that

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<v Speaker 3>it's around who do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? But before we dive.

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<v Speaker 3>Into kind of the strengths of both Atlanta as well

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<v Speaker 3>as Miami and how they match up against the Calves,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you think that game is going to play

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<v Speaker 3>out on Friday?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm just going to pick Miami. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're a healthier team. I think they're a more you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got more guys with playoff scars. You look at Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at their normal roster, you definitely pick them.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, Mo Gay is playing for them, Dominic

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<v Speaker 1>Barlow is playing for them again like real minutes. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the guys you kind of expect to be

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<v Speaker 1>playing in March and April as the team is a

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<v Speaker 1>little banged up. But then you know, then they clear

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way for the tight rotation, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn Snyder played ten guys against Orlando, uh, And I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just don't think they've got the depth. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think Miami has a lot of guys to throw

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<v Speaker 1>at Tray to make his life hard, you know. Davion

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell is just the perfect Heat culture player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Hero went absolutely ballistic tonight, you know, and and the

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<v Speaker 1>other really good players in the Hawks. I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel like the the Heat kind of have good

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<v Speaker 1>answers for you know, like me and you love Okongwu,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is is he not?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, great value brand?

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<v Speaker 1>Bam out of Byo, Yeah, he's not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>to do O Kong Wui stuff against Bam.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like of the players that are available, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is a different conversation if Jalen Johnson

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<v Speaker 3>was available for Atlanta. I think there was an argument

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<v Speaker 3>that he was their most impactful player when he was healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>But you have to give the coaching edge to.

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<v Speaker 3>Spolstra because I just think that he is not the

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<v Speaker 3>best coach in the league. He's top three, right, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think just from track record what he's been able

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<v Speaker 3>to do with that team, I think he's as good

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<v Speaker 3>as it gets.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Bam out of Bayo, I think is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best defensive players in the league. He's a top five

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<v Speaker 3>defensive player. Tyler Hero was an All Star this year.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been terrific. Andrew Wiggins gave them really, really good

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<v Speaker 3>minutes against Chicago and he's capable of playing well. So

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely am leaning Miami, which is funny because I

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<v Speaker 3>really felt like Chicago had a chance to come out

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<v Speaker 3>out of this thing. But you know, maybe this is

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, the the rock paper scissors of the NBA,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm just learning, Oh my, Miami is still rock.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to make it through it.

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<v Speaker 3>They beat Chicago, so therefore they get to keep the

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<v Speaker 3>belt and they get to advance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it just it also like you have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of positive momentum on your side.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll be interested, that's your point.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, once the play in, you know, gets fifteen

0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty years of data under its belt, I will be

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<v Speaker 1>curious to see how often the nine to ten winner

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<v Speaker 1>kind of can sneak in.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no ending.

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<v Speaker 1>They're coming off a win, the other team's coming off

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<v Speaker 1>a loss, you know, and there is like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember feeling it in the seven eight game three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, we lost, Now what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, like you know, there's just this different kind

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<v Speaker 1>of angst that that creeps in as at least as

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<v Speaker 1>a And so I'm gonna pick Miami to win. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's if I'm the Cavs video staff, maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>putting my best guys on Miami and a sixty forty

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<v Speaker 1>split sixty forty attention split PERHBS. But of course that's

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<v Speaker 1>not why I don't run a film room, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably not how that works at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, basketball's a game of runs. When you're

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<v Speaker 3>coming off a win, that gives you that extra little boost.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's take a look at these teams, Carter. The thing

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<v Speaker 3>that jumps out to me right away when I'm kind

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<v Speaker 3>of looking at the season long stats, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>very often the case when you are talking about what

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<v Speaker 3>is functionally you know, the the eight seed and the

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<v Speaker 3>ten seed right now competing for the eighth spot in

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<v Speaker 3>the history books. These are not perfect teams. These are

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<v Speaker 3>not teams that have a glaring strength. I would say

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<v Speaker 3>Atlanta is seventeenth in offense and eighteenth in defense, below

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<v Speaker 3>average in both or about average in both. Miami is

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<v Speaker 3>the number twenty one offense, number nine defense, So you

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<v Speaker 3>know there's a top ten trade. You at least expect

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<v Speaker 3>an Eric Spolster team to play very well defensively, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've seen that in some of those matchups.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's going to be interesting to me is that

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<v Speaker 3>the Cavs, on the other hand, have been really, really

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<v Speaker 3>good across the board, and when you look at some

0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.840
<v Speaker 3>of the areas where maybe there's been some slippage, like

0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.440
<v Speaker 3>their number twenty two defensive rebound rate, neither of these

0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.840
<v Speaker 3>teams really seem poise to take advantage of that. Atlanta

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<v Speaker 3>is eight thirteenth in offensive rebound rate and Miami is

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seventh. So if your prediction and my prediction is

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<v Speaker 3>true Miami heat advanced through this, that is not a

0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.080
<v Speaker 3>team that is likely to beat them up on the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive glass.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and I mean just up and down. These are

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<v Speaker 1>the definition of.

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<v Speaker 2>Teams.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you look you look at the standings and

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<v Speaker 1>you see Miami with a plus point six point differential

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<v Speaker 1>in the year in Atlanta with a minus one point one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to say. I mean, anyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this podcast already knows this, but the Cavs

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<v Speaker 1>should win their series in four or five games. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be very surprising just based on the profiles

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<v Speaker 1>of the two teams if it went any other way.

0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, teams that outscore their opponent by ten points

0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.719
<v Speaker 1>a game rarely lose series. Two teams that almost get

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<v Speaker 1>outscored on the season or finish their season eight games

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<v Speaker 1>under five hundred. So important to say that. I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is where on the Atlanta side, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'd like to start. On the Atlanta side, not

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<v Speaker 1>having Capella available is hard for them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>They just don't have a lot of size that's impactful.

0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:20.199
<v Speaker 1>Okongwu is a very good offensive rebounder, Mogay is okay

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<v Speaker 1>at it, but that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of it, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have a lot of just BV big men.

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<v Speaker 1>Dominic Barlow I think is you know a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>you know of a tweener forward. He's not someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to beat you up. And then guys who down

0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:44.040
<v Speaker 1>their roster. You know, Daniels is a pretty good rebounders

0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.680
<v Speaker 1>because he's a big guard. Reache is not as good

0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:52.200
<v Speaker 1>as his size, but indicate Brett Young is obviously famously hurt, horrific.

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And then you look at the bench, it's niang Lavert

0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.320
<v Speaker 1>like who you know, never were great rebounders for the

0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Calves and still aren't for Atlanta. And then you guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Terence Man, who you know once was a very

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<v Speaker 1>hot prospect for the Clippers, only played ten minutes in

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.959
<v Speaker 1>that game against Orlando, and you know he was one

0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.400
<v Speaker 1>of he was a good glass crasher in for the Clippers,

0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.520
<v Speaker 1>but you know, he's just not important enough for them.

0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.400
<v Speaker 1>So like, I just think they're not really that well

0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:28.119
<v Speaker 1>built to beat us up physically, either on the glass

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<v Speaker 1>or just in general.

0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.480
<v Speaker 3>No, they really aren't. And when I'm looking at these matchups,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that these teams should have a chance

0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 3>in the series. But you never know, if there's one

0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:44.840
<v Speaker 3>aspect that at least the Calves can say, hey, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a strength of theirs, let's work to take that away.

0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.200
<v Speaker 3>And when it comes to the Atlanta Hawks, they like

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<v Speaker 3>to get out in transition. They're number one in transition frequency,

0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:58.879
<v Speaker 3>and for the Calves, transition defense it isn't poor, but

0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.360
<v Speaker 3>it's not their biggest strength. There are eleventh in transition defense,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd be really interested to see if you do

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately end up playing the Atlanta Hawks and they are

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.840
<v Speaker 3>getting out and running, maybe that is an opportunity for

0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:14.680
<v Speaker 3>the Cavs to work on their transition defense, because if

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.040
<v Speaker 3>you end up playing the Indiana Pacers in the second round,

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:18.520
<v Speaker 3>you know that's a team that's going to get out

0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.800
<v Speaker 3>and run. Boston may try to get out and run,

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<v Speaker 3>and even though they're not the highest frequency transition team,

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<v Speaker 3>how you defend those transition attempts versus Boston, whether you

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<v Speaker 3>are finding the shooters in the corner, whether you're finding

0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.399
<v Speaker 3>those guys streaking up and down the court, how you

0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:40.080
<v Speaker 3>defend those possessions might be the difference in a series

0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.960
<v Speaker 3>that we believe is going to have very thin margins.

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<v Speaker 3>So I still think that there are things that you

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<v Speaker 3>can take from these individual matchups, even though you are

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<v Speaker 3>at an advantage and you should be the overwhelming favorite

0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:53.720
<v Speaker 3>to win that series, because as I said, the Caves

0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.280
<v Speaker 3>are eleventh in transition defense their fifth and half court defense.

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<v Speaker 3>So typically when you have that as an indicator, that

0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.600
<v Speaker 3>says your defense is going to be better in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>But I still think that, you know, when I look

0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.479
<v Speaker 3>at Atlanta, that's the number one thing that I'm looking at.

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 3>They are a slightly above average offensive rebounding team. It's

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.680
<v Speaker 3>hard to use season averages when they are missing guys

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.200
<v Speaker 3>and they are banged up. But the one thing that

0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:22.720
<v Speaker 3>we know they're going to do is they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get out and run. And because they know that they're

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<v Speaker 3>at a talent deficit and they know that they know

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<v Speaker 3>they're the eight seed versus the one seed, I would

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<v Speaker 3>expect them to get up threes at a higher rate

0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 3>because really, three point attempts and three point variants, that's

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 3>probably your best chance at a great equalizer. That game

0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.400
<v Speaker 3>that they won in Cleveland, not the weird Thanksgiving afternoon game,

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.560
<v Speaker 3>but the one. The game they won in Cleveland, they

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<v Speaker 3>got fewer than their normal average in terms of wide

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.240
<v Speaker 3>open three point looks. They just made them at a

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 3>really really high clip in a game where the Calves

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.000
<v Speaker 3>generated I think it was thirty two wide open three

0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:03.640
<v Speaker 3>point attempts and just didn't make any of them. Your

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<v Speaker 3>best chance of getting a game off the Calves is

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 3>by banking on that kind of variant. So I'd expect

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 3>them to get try to get easy baskets and transition

0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.160
<v Speaker 3>and try to get those three pointers up at a high,

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<v Speaker 3>high rate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think the other thing they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to do is just try to get the Calves

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<v Speaker 1>in rotation. I'll be really interested to see what the

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Calves decided to do defensively in that series if it

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 1>comes to pass. You know, one thing that we really

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<v Speaker 1>criticized JB and the game plan for in that play

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 1>in game three years ago was that, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of left what they were doing and we're just

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're very rigid. You know, they said we're

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna switch everything. First half, it was going quite well.

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Second half, Trey Young figured out that, yeah, I can

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<v Speaker 1>score on Lowry Markinen and just it was just a

0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 1>parade of you know, beating marketing off the dribble, help

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 1>having to come against set shooters, and just feeding the corners,

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 1>feeding lob threats, feeding. You know, Trey is at his best,

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:17.879
<v Speaker 1>one of the great offensive engines in the league. You know,

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 1>when when he when the when the jumper is going

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.960
<v Speaker 1>for him. I mean, he is a passing savant. He

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<v Speaker 1>led the league and assist this year. And I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>really interested to see how different the Calves want to

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>get with their defensive fundamentals and how they want to

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:39.159
<v Speaker 1>chase him. You know, are they just going to switch everything? Uh,

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 1>that's certainly a strategy. Are they going to Are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to show him size and put two on the

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<v Speaker 1>ball and make him outlet and trust the rotations on

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the back end?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, probably don't want to play a ton of

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:54.360
<v Speaker 1>drop on Trey. That's kind of one of the things

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>he likes to likes to to beat up. But like,

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 1>how are you going to both corral him and keep

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the keep the uh, you know, corral has passing and

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>not just let him go ballistic on an army of

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:13.360
<v Speaker 1>floaters like this very well could be a series where

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Trey scores forty plus in two or three games. That's

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of my opinion, kind of their only road to

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>stealing two or three games in this series.

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:25.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's something I want to say, and I don't

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 3>want it to be as disrespectful as it's going to sound.

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 3>But I'm going to say it anyways, and it's just

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 3>going to sound that way, But in a lot of ways,

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 3>he's scout teams Tyrese haliburtn Like you know, you get

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 3>you get to practice what you're going to have to

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 3>do against Tyrese Halliburn VERSU Tray Young, just like you know,

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Ben Simmons was the stand in for Jokic for the Clippers,

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Like you know, that's obviously Trey Young is much closer

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 3>to Tyrese Halliburn, but how you have to defend him

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 3>is going to be very similar. Obviously, there's no way

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 3>to guarantee that the Indiana Pacers are going to make

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 3>it to the next round. But these are the type

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 3>of things that you you kind of have to look into,

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 3>right Like, you want to challenge yourself. You want to

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 3>gain experience of making the adjustments, trying to take away

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:15.199
<v Speaker 3>the strengths. Even if you don't need to make adjustments

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 3>to win the series, you still want to get that practice.

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 3>So you want to, you know, get that muscle memory

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:25.880
<v Speaker 3>of the execution. And I think that's really what I'm

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 3>trying to take away from this first round here, That's

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 3>what I really really want to learn because the last

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 3>two years first round series has been a dogfight. One

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 3>of them they lost, one of them they won, but

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 3>it never really felt like they were fully in control

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 3>of the series. And now the Calves have the talent,

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 3>they have the health, they have everything that they need to,

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, impose their will on a series. It's about

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 3>are they able to do that effectively? Is are they

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 3>able to be as dominant as they were in the

0:25:56.200 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 3>regular season. And you know, coming into game one and two, yeah,

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 3>you don't know who your opponent is until two days before,

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.639
<v Speaker 3>but really like games one and two, you're kind of

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 3>coming out with your base plan to some extent, like

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 3>you are going to tweak your game plan to what

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 3>you think is going to work well against the other team.

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.679
<v Speaker 3>But typically game three is where you really see adjustments

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 3>in a series. I'm sure the Cavs have a game

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 3>plan in mind for the Atlanta Hawks and for the

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Miami Heat. They're going to highlight things in the film session,

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 3>but you're not really going to deviate from that game

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 3>one game plan for the first two games because you're

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 3>trying to get an appropriate sample size as well of

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 3>a like you know this, we think this work is

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.400
<v Speaker 3>going to work, even if it didn't work particularly well

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:47.119
<v Speaker 3>in Game one, and that little chess match. Chess matches

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 3>is what I'm looking for here.

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think really like what you're talking about isn't

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>necessarily about playing perfectly. It's about, you know, imposing your style. Yes,

0:26:56.400 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>And like I think as impressive as I thought that

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Magic series was for the Cavs, I'm not sure I

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:08.360
<v Speaker 1>would say they imposed their style. They played an Orlando

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>game and just beat Orlando at Orlando's game, you know,

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.199
<v Speaker 1>I would actually argue they played more close to Cavaliers

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>basketball against the Celtics, uh than.

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Lando.

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 3>The Orlando series was trusting the defense, they got in

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 3>a rock fight, and Donovan Mitchell happened to be better

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.919
<v Speaker 3>than Palo Bank Carol. Like that's really what it came

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 3>down to, Like kind of that lead initiator was the

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 3>lead initiator and Mitchell did a better.

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Job of it.

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think like what you want at some point

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>is Atlanta to be kind of looking around at their

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, looking around at each other and the huddle

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>going what we need to change everything? Like that's what

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 1>you want them to have to be saying, because like

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>we're not in control of this series in any meaningful way,

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and like that's what I think you really want to see.

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>But with that said, I do want to ask a

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>couple of rotation questions before we pivot over to Okay, Miami,

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Is this an Isaca Korro series?

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you're playing Tray Young. I would like to see, Honestly,

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 3>I would like to have a Coro in the early

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 3>rotation of all of these kind of matchups, no matter

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 3>who we're playing, even if it doesn't feel like as

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 3>much of an Icycle Coro series on paper, at least

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 3>from the defensive standpoint, because I want to get him

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 3>those reps offensively, and I want to see if we can,

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.479
<v Speaker 3>you know, with the new ways that we're using him,

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 3>if he can be an effective part of the rotation

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of regardless of matchup, we're still talking about someone that's,

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 3>you know what, twenty three years old here, Like, getting

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 3>good data on Isco Coro is a really important thing

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 3>for me. So I obviously against Trey Young, I think

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 3>he does as good of a job as anybody in

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 3>the league, So it's definitely a yes for me. But

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to have that qualifier of even if

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 3>it's a series where it isn't as important even if

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 3>you're playing a Milwaukee Bucks where there isn't a huge

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 3>strategic advantage of putting him on a dynamic guard. I

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 3>would still like to see Isaac Ocor out there in

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 3>the early series rotation.

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would too. I asked the question because I

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>do think it is. What's going to be important though

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>for him is making Atlanta pay when they have Trey

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>sashed on him. Yes, he needs to bully him, He

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>needs to use his physicality. He needs to be a

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>great screener for the guards to get Dyson Daniels, who

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>is there, you know, one of the best point of

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>attack guard defenders in the NBA. Get him out of

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the paint, get him away from from Darius and Donovan

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>when they have the ball. You know, because I do

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>imagine a lot of Okuoros Mints will come at the

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>two in this in this series if he's going to

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>be a major part of your rotation, So you're not

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>going to have two of Darius Donovan tie and some

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of those lineups.

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Some of them you will, But like you know, just.

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:15.479
<v Speaker 1>In terms of making because Atlanta has pretty good positional size,

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, it gets really messy to be like, all right,

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>tied Jerome, you got Resa Shay who's six' ten playing small,

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>forward like you're gonna you're gonna have to make some you,

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>know some interesting lineup decisions with who is guarding who

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and the in the minutes Where okoro's at the, three

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>if you want him going and chasing around the only

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>small player on the floor For, ATLANTA.

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I agree with.

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.479
<v Speaker 3>You i'm very curious if we're going to be right,

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 3>Though Like i'm very curious to see if we change

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 3>up the rotation or if we end up seeing you,

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 3>know the constant two guard no matter, what and even

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>some three guard lineups would Sam, Merril i'm, really, really

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.959
<v Speaker 3>really curious to see if that ultimately is the, case

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 3>because what you're saying makes absolute. SENSE i think this

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.959
<v Speaker 3>is a series for the calves to use their. Wings

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 3>because you have wings, available you have the option to

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 3>play it. Larger we'll see if that ends up coming to.

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Fruition that's that's one of those things we may learn

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 3>about How Kenny atkinson chooses to approach the playoffs that

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 3>you're just not going to learn until you're in the.

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Playoffs, yeah for, sure and THEN i And i'll let

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you also do closing thoughts in a final pick if It's.

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta BUT i just think at the end of the,

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>day they just don't have enough answers for what The

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>calves have from a roster. Perspective you, know we were

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>talking on the discord today AND i think you Mentioned

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>George niang is gonna have to put in shifts On

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Evan mobley like.

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>You stole my series. Preview i'm, sorry you, know AND

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>i just.

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Or it's going to Be mogay And Don, barlow and you,

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>know it's like like WHAT i suspect will happen in

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>this series if it goes the way we hope it,

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>goes is one of The hawks role players is going

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>to be getting, cooked whether It's, niang whether It's, barlow

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>whether whoever it. Is and someone's gonna say we got

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to get them off the, floor and smart fans of

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>The hawks will say for, who you, know like they

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>JUST i just think their toolkit isn't quite big. ENOUGH i,

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>mean you can downshift a, little you, know you can

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Do vitkritchi and Parents man and play uber small, ball but,

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>LIKE i just DON'T i don't think they've got enough guys,

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that you, know you really really can.

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Trust, yeah like you might switch like we talk About

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 3>icicle korl moving down the you know assignments playing small

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 3>four but Guarding Tray young and some of the cross

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 3>matching you're doing. There you might have the same thing

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 3>on The hawks, side just even, reverse Where reesaha is

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 3>playing shooting guard but he's Guarding Evan mobley as the,

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 3>four And George niang is like sliding down to Guard

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Isaac okoro or something on those, lines, right because that's

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 3>not going to be a beneficial. MATCHUP i think that

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 3>would look a lot like when he was trying to

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Guard palo in last Year's Magic, series which you, know

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 3>when you look at how Good Evan mobley has gone

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 3>in space and also just how Good Evan mobley is

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 3>at finishing over, guys like that's that's the biggest.

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>One and they won't give you the bailout Stuff pala gives, you.

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Right and like.

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Okong wu is six eight six,' Nine george nangs six,

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 3>Y seven mogay's got some, good length but not a.

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Big dude mobley just finishes, Over GUYS and i think

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 3>we are Going to we've talked about it for Years

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 3>That evan mobley is going to be the one that

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 3>dictates how Far the cavs go and. All THAT but

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 3>i think we're really going to get a feel for

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 3>how Much Better evan mobley is and how his game

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 3>is going to translate to the playoffs in game one of.

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Round one, Is this both of these matchups should be

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Series Where evan mobley plays a very, significant ROLE and

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 3>i think getting him going should be goal number one in.

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 3>The playoffs we need To Have evan mobley playing, really well,

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 3>playing confident and, you know being a two way monster.

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 3>OUT there i think that Is the cav's best pathway.

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 3>To success and if we can build positive momentum in,

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 3>that direction why not start in?

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Round, one bear what's your pick For A atlanta Hawk's cliving?

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Cavaliers series CAAs. And four I'm going calves. IN five

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I think trey is capable of stealing the game.

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>AGAINST anyone i think they have enough. Shooting variants they

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>have shooting talent on.

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 2>That, roster Yes and karis can go for, forty one we, know,

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 2>That yeah.

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>SO like i just think they have enough volatility offensively that,

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>YOU know i think they've what eighteenth, On OFFENSE but

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>i think there are nights where they look like the

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>fifth best offense in, the league, you, Know yep and

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 1>there're just other nights where they look like the twenty

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>fifth and that's how you get. To eighteenth BUT but

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>i think they're just a more valid old team than

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.280
<v Speaker 1>their averages kind of make. Them Look so I'm going calves.

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 1>IN five i want To. Talk miami you want to.

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Go first here's, The.

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 3>THING miami I think i really want THEM because i

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Want the calves to experience some form of a test in.

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 3>The PLAYOFFS and i think going Up Against eric spolstra

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 3>is going to force them to make the types of

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 3>ADJUSTMENTS that i, Was, saying hey that's that's what you

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 3>want to, experience with that's what you want to kind

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.240
<v Speaker 3>of try out in. The, PLAYOFFS here I think spoe

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 3>is going to throw different things. AT them i think

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 3>they're going to be forced to do. Problem solving and

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 3>if my, primary motivation if my number one area of

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 3>interest heading into the first round Is Can evin mobley get?

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 3>It Going Can evin mobley show that this, is different

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 3>that he is ready to do what's necessary to get

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 3>this team a championship. This season going UP against Bam

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 3>At a bayo is the perfect matchup to make that

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of, a statement because bam. Is phenomenal he's someone

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 3>that we have compared, mobily to, you know basically since

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 3>he entered the league that we wanted to see him

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:25.359
<v Speaker 3>basically be a Bigger Bam. Ata bayo that matchup would,

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Be fascinating the coaching matchup would, Be FASCINATING and I

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 3>think miami has the ability to really Test, the calves

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 3>not in terms of pushing, the SERIES but i think

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 3>they'd have to play at a higher level than they

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Would against atlanta in order to win the series in

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 3>four or.

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Five games it's a weird THING where i don't disagree

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>with anything you, just SAID but i do have this

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>weird HEADSPACE where i feel Like the hawks will Test

0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the calves stylistically, more okay because of the Singularity, of trey,

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you know the style and the way he binds and

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>breaks your brain a little bit when he's, Really ON

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>whereas i feel Like the calves will play won't have

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>to make one change to the way they've played all

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>year To. Beat miami they just will have to execute very.

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Very well let me ask, YOU this i agree that

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 3>how you have to Account For. Trey young that's a

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 3>different beast Than What tyler herro is going. To DO

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 3>like I Trust donovan mitchell To Guard, TYLER hero i

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:37.839
<v Speaker 3>trust guys up and down the roster To Guard.

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 2>Tyler hero are you.

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Trying to learn about the defense or you're trying to

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 3>learn about, the OFFENSE because i want to learn about,

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 3>the OFFENSE and I think miami is going to Test

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:50.760
<v Speaker 3>the cavs offense, as much if not More than atlanta

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 3>would Test the. Cavs DEFENSE and i don't worry About the.

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 3>CAVES defense i understand that theoretically that might come up

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 3>at some point in, the playoffs but it has not

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.879
<v Speaker 3>at any point to. This point AND because i want

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 3>to learn about the offense translating in, THE playoffs I

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 3>think miami is the more interesting test for.

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 2>That, Reason yeah i'm not even. Saying it lana is.

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>More interesting IT'S just i just think it's a style

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>thing in terms of How the calves might tweak what.

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 1>They're doing and part of it's Just because atlana's got more,

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>weak points then you might that you're more willing to

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>go out of your way, to attack, you know if that,

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.959
<v Speaker 1>makes sense you might so you might just do things

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 1>differently on both ends of the ball than what you've done. All,

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>YEAR like i don't you want to see if we're

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>going to match, up hunt like if we're just going

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 1>to get really all.

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 2>THAT time i don't even KNOW if i want.

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>TO see i just kind of think, they might, YOU

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>know i think they might just behave a, little Differently

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>whereas miami is just like they play one, drop big

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>they play one man out, of bio they play a big,

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:58.399
<v Speaker 1>small forward they play a shooty, shooting guard they play

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>they play, You know burks a little Bit and daveyon for,

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 1>ball pressure, you know And Like andrews. Revenge SERIES maybe i,

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know he's always been GOOD, AGAINST us, i. THINK

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>uh i, just THINK like i don't, YOU know i

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Asked about Isaac, o quoro uh and and if they

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>should kind of tweak the rotation to give him. More

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>RUN and i do agree that, you're right they. Probably

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 1>won't if they, do tweak it won't be till, mid

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>series Even. Against atlanta, BUT like i don't think they

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>could or should tweak their rotation Really. AGAINST miami i

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 1>think they should play one how they've played, all year,

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 1>you KNOW because i, think defensively they should be able

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 1>to do a really really good job On this. Miami,

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Team offensively miami gives up more as in the bottom

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>third of the league and three, pointers allowed so they

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>should be able to get because they're a team that

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.839
<v Speaker 1>you can get into rotation And the cavs.

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Are really really a lot of.

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Them exactly so like all the things that Make, the

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>cabs that has Made the cabs offense prolific, This year

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>miami is not that well built. TO stop i think,

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.879
<v Speaker 1>IF anything I actually i'm. NOT sure i would Say

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>that miami inherently is a much greater Test. Than, atlanta

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 1>DEFENSIVELY though i do think they are just literally because

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>OF the, Vam FACTOR but i would actually say they're

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:30.319
<v Speaker 1>much greater Tests For, Evan mobley like we'll learn More About,

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:36.240
<v Speaker 1>evan mobley, actually more but if he goes Off, against

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>miami then we'll really know we have a, Stew going

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>whereas if he goes Off, against atlanta will be really

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>encouraged and that will be new in terms of like

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 1>dominating a series start, to finish but like it'll be

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>different If.

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 3>It's, pam yeah that's part OF why i want to.

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.399
<v Speaker 3>SEE it i Believe That kevin mobley is a guy

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 3>that can clear, high bars so why not set them.

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 3>UP high i don't. NEED them i don't need the

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 3>high jump to be a three feet to start, things

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 3>off which is what going Up Against george name would

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 3>be in COMPARISON to Bamai. To bayo let's set it

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.399
<v Speaker 3>high and see what he can. Do there let's see

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 3>if he can do a backflip over that high. Jump

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 3>bar i'm Here For evan mobley being TESTED because i

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 3>think he's going to pass.

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Those tests looking.

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.359
<v Speaker 3>At how miami's, performed defensively they are the number nine

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 3>defense IN the nba this season and the number nine half,

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 3>court defense so that's. Certainly interesting they're twenty six in,

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 3>transition frequency so that one area Where the calves are

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 3>less than great in terms of the. Transition defense miami

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 3>isn't going to test them in. That area they are

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 3>not a particularly good. Transition defense miami is twenty first in,

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 3>transition defense While, the calves despite not being a high transition,

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 3>frequency team they are number three in. Transition EFFICIENCY so

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 3>i would Expect the cast to be able to get

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 3>some easy. Buckets there although we do know that postseason

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:04.439
<v Speaker 3>basketball tends to kind of shift towards the half court

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 3>more so than getting out.

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>And, running yeah but we what we do need to

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>see them get the buckets that. Are there, you know

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>if we want to see this offense hold up the

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 1>way that we're all kind of desperately hoping, and praying

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>it does means you got to get the easy ones

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:20.280
<v Speaker 1>when they're available.

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 2>To YOU so i do think.

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>THAT'S interesting I think miami's positional size is. Pretty strong,

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 1>you know You've got hero at, Six four marks at,

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Six five wiggins at six seven, Six eight bam at, six'

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 1>nine where is a true seven to one though you know.

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>He's a rookie if that'll be a good belt Weather

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>for the cavs offense is how quickly they Can Make, Spogo.

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Kyle, anderson Hey, what hi smith please come.

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Save the defense we can't have this child out here like,

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>that's you know like that will be a good belt

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>weather for How well the Haves offenses functioning like where

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>played twenty minutes in, this he starts but he only

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't play like thirty forty minutes a, game for,

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 1>them you know getting chasing him from the floor is

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>a good belt weather for how well the. Offense is

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 1>running but they do have, good positional, size you know

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and even. When they downshift And You, know kyle anderson

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>who you know isn't, a you know, brutish power forward

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 1>but has really good length, and you know as a

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 1>guy who just always makes, really smart plays you know

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>he can he can Very Credibly guard evan mobley. In

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the post you know that's. Not a Problem heyward high

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>smith can guard up. Really REALLY well so i think

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 1>they they and, THEN you know I just think i,

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 1>think that bench the two bench benches against each other

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>will be a. Really interesting battle like when You, look

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:55.439
<v Speaker 1>at miami you're almost more impressed by the guys coming

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:57.800
<v Speaker 1>off the bench than the. Guys who, Start You know

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.439
<v Speaker 1>davion mitchell, as you know fit. Like a glove there

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the the, intense ball pressure Which we know. Calves don't

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>like uh is something that uh that that flips. Games

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>For them kyle anderson is just such a freaking grown.

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Up out there he can he can played twenty three

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 1>minutes and not attempt a shot and b plus fifteen like.

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 1>He was Tonight, heywood high smith can you know when

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that three? Pointer is going especially you know, all that,

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>athleticism all that all those. Smarts Really Playing then duncan

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>robinson is kind of this chaos Agent who swings benjamin

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it's when when, with his, MOVEMENT you know i Mean

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 1>He's basically Sam Merrill if sam merril. Was. Six, eight

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>yeah uh and that's very a good. Thing TO be,

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 1>so i think how The if, the calves, bench you

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:56.280
<v Speaker 1>know Draws dead, With miami's Bench If if, Tye Sam

0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 1>o'coro hunter wade or Like even, WITH miami's bench i

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 1>think we're, winning this. Very Very comfortably if miami's bench

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 1>is changing the shape of the game and consistently messing,

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 1>up THE vibes then I think the calves might have

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:16.919
<v Speaker 1>a bit more of a fight. On, their, HANDS yeah

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 1>yeah i. Agree with that where would you go on A?

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Series with miami what are? You picking here i'm also

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:26.919
<v Speaker 1>going to go caves. In FIVE here just i. THINK

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the style i think this is a better Matchup.

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 2>For the calves.

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>But but like miami, Always gets one miami's always going.

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>TO get one i think they have the best coach.

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 1>IN the league i think if either series was more likely,

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 1>TO go along i would pick this one. For that

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 1>reason spoe, Is A demon BUT i THINK i think

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>i Would. RATHER play Miami i. Think i'm there i'd rather.

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>See the test i'd rather get. Really good data i'd

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 1>really like to see how they handle a super well,

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 1>coached together team even if the talent level, isn't you

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Know even what orlando.

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Was last year and, let's be.

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 3>HONEST we're selfish i think, from you know breaking, down

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 3>the series breaking down, GAME by game i think it's

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:24.359
<v Speaker 3>more interesting to talk About what a miami. SERIES would

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 3>be i just think that the test there and just

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 3>what supposed able to do and even just the top End,

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Talent of miami like you could probably Make An argument

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Tyler Hero versus tree young this year in terms of

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 3>like overall impact and. STUFF like that i Probably, would

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.440
<v Speaker 3>lean tray but it's close enough that you could. MAKE

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.360
<v Speaker 3>that argument I still think bam is the best player

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.439
<v Speaker 3>out of. All that bunch, i'll be honest my brain,

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:51.439
<v Speaker 3>is telling, ME you know cavsn five when It. Comes

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 3>TO miami but i really do have a gut Feeling

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 3>that the cavs are going to sweep this. FIRST round

0:46:55.880 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 3>series i think they have been less interested in, the

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 3>regular season having locked up things for, a WHILE now

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.839
<v Speaker 3>and i feel like this is a team that, has

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 3>championship goals that is hungry to. Make A statement and

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.320
<v Speaker 3>i think what they are. Going to do you know

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 3>the experience of recognizing what a long series can, do,

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 3>to you right Like they dominated orlando in games, one

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 3>and two and then that series went on. For too

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:28.880
<v Speaker 3>long that had an impact on how the Series. WENT

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 3>against boston i think you learn. From, that experience yeah

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 3>and you know you talk about the bench and can

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 3>our bench play them their? Bench, to, draw honestly man

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 3>like we got two of the Top three six Man

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 3>of the Year candidates In Tijerum. And DeAndre hunter our

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.720
<v Speaker 3>starting lineup should be the. Better starting lineup our bench

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 3>should be.

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:52.320
<v Speaker 2>The.

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:55.879
<v Speaker 3>BETTER bench, spoe i agree best coach, In The league

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 3>kenny atkinson was the best. COACH this year i Think.

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 3>CAN sweep miami i think that would be a hell

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 3>of a. Statement to make and that is my OFFICIAL prediction.

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>HERE i asked I Went on Lockdown calves On Monday

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 1>with DANNY cunningham and i asked him A question that

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:17.439
<v Speaker 1>i'm gonna, ask you, now which is is there any

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Performance that the cavs can have in the first round

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>that would change how you feel Going into a boston

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Series in. The, conference, FINALS no no i think mobily

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>having a great series is going to HELP solidify.

0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 3>How i feel but we talked about this on. THE

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:42.879
<v Speaker 3>last podcast i am starting my expectations at a High

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<v Speaker 3>level and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going.

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<v Speaker 3>To maintain those i'm not going, to you know start

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<v Speaker 3>leaping up Proportionally if.

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<v Speaker 2>The calves do have.

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<v Speaker 3>A great series i have a very very high level

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<v Speaker 3>of Confidence that this calves team can play the way

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<v Speaker 3>that we've seen them play when they're playing. At Their

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<v Speaker 3>best so i'm just going to, meet matain, that you,

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<v Speaker 3>know throughout playoffs my. CONFIDENCE can shrink i don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it can GO up because i respect The challenge. THAT

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<v Speaker 3>boston is i think that's going to be a rock,

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<v Speaker 3>By that series and you know that kind of swaying

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<v Speaker 3>variance of me believing, it's you know a forty sixty

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<v Speaker 3>chance to a true fifty, to fifty chance, or you

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<v Speaker 3>know if both teams, are fully healthy that's probably kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like my margin. For error there, But in general

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<v Speaker 3>i'm going to, kind of, maintain you. KNOW the SAME

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<v Speaker 3>i don't I don't think i can push up my

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<v Speaker 3>level of confidence from from where.

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<v Speaker 2>It's.

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<v Speaker 1>Already, AT uh intellectually i completely, agree with you and. You,

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<v Speaker 1>ARE right emotionally i think they still can answer some

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<v Speaker 1>some vibe check questions for me if they go if

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<v Speaker 1>they get through a first round series with a one

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen offensive rating and they're putting, up, one, twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>five one thirty in some, of These games and i'm going, to,

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, oh oh, like you know it'll really

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<v Speaker 1>like it'll it will be. Kind of one it can

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the last pieces on. My confidence journey yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>with this, team YOU know because i just haven't. Seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>yet so like EVEN though intellectually i see all the

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<v Speaker 1>indicators that tell me that this offense should be great,

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<v Speaker 1>IN the postseason i still. Haven't seen IT so, ONCE

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<v Speaker 1>i do i do think it's going to unlock a

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<v Speaker 1>little piece, for me emotionally and my emotions and my

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<v Speaker 1>intellect will. Ideally be aligned.

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<v Speaker 3>If we Get To The eastern conference finals in ten

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<v Speaker 3>games and we have a one twenty offensive rating, in

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<v Speaker 3>The playoffs like i'm going to be sending you those

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<v Speaker 3>little messages on the, side, being like dog we, can.

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<v Speaker 2>Do this we.

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<v Speaker 1>Can do this' that was the root, of my QUESTION

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<v Speaker 1>is am i going to be? Getting those messages you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably going to be. Getting those messages, let's be.

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<v Speaker 3>Real it's me i'm excitable, and, you know yeah that's

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<v Speaker 3>what this time of. Years all about, it's about belief it's,

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<v Speaker 3>about having fun it's about enjoying this because we are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be, entering some high high. Stress scenarios here

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs. Are always stressful every game, matters so much

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<v Speaker 3>every possession.

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<v Speaker 2>Matters so much, and you know this is.

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<v Speaker 3>A high pressure environment for. Our guys too like when you,

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<v Speaker 3>are this good it, comes with expectations it. Comes With

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<v Speaker 3>Pressure can darius garland have a? Great playoff series kenny

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<v Speaker 3>have a? Great playoff run we haven't really seen.

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<v Speaker 2>That From, him evan.

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<v Speaker 3>Mobley same question you know he's probably going to BE an,

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 3>all nba player which means you're in that. Top fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>range when you are anointed newly anointed as a top

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen PLAYER, of the nba that's going to come with a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of pressure that's going to come with a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people looking to. Pick that apart that is part,

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:50.959
<v Speaker 3>of the game that is. Fair Play Man, so evan

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<v Speaker 3>mobley there's pressure on him going, Into the playoffs donovan

0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 3>trying to get out of the second round for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time. In His career kenny atkinson trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of the first round for the first time in

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<v Speaker 3>his career. As a, Coach You, KNOW jared allen i

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<v Speaker 3>thought he really acquitted Himself. Great, against orlando, UNFORTUNATELY you

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<v Speaker 3>know i think people were unfair when it came to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Broken rib situation but he has a chance to make

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<v Speaker 3>a statement and help shift, perception, to WHERE frankly where

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<v Speaker 3>i think it should. Be all along so there's big

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<v Speaker 3>time pressure, on, This team man and when you have

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:28.800
<v Speaker 3>big time pressure and you, answer the bell.

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<v Speaker 2>That comes with a.

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<v Speaker 3>Sense of relief as a, fan like that that is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best. Feelings THERE is so i think

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<v Speaker 3>it is fair to both acknowledge that pressure and also,

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<v Speaker 3>just you know the the excitement that comes when you

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<v Speaker 3>achieve and you match and. Exceed lofty, expectations, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>brother it's. Time let's go. Let's do this next podcast

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<v Speaker 3>will be, after game one very very, before game one thank,

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<v Speaker 3>you very much, before game one before game one for.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure on YouTube next one up on the feed from,

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<v Speaker 3>an audio standpoint is probably going To be Postgame game

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<v Speaker 3>one we will be on Site. At in cleveland very.

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<v Speaker 3>Excited For that rocket arena is going. To be rocking

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be hard for me to not, say

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<v Speaker 3>Romo fijo but i'm still getting. Used to that but

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<v Speaker 3>very very excited To. Travel to cleveland we will Have

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:21.319
<v Speaker 3>coverage four Games one, and game two as well as

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:24.960
<v Speaker 3>every game. Throughout the playoffs we will be recording podcasts

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<v Speaker 3>whether We are in cleveland or whether we are sitting here.

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<v Speaker 3>In these chairs so very very excited to. Break that

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