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Speaker 3: We finally have some clarity about who the Cavs first
Speaker 3: round opponent is going to be. We've at least eliminated
Speaker 3: to really from the mix h The Chicago Bulls lost
Speaker 3: to the Miami Heat just before we started recording this.
Speaker 3: Orlando Magic beat the Atlanta Hawks yesterday, so we know
Speaker 3: the Caves will be playing one of the Atlanta Hawks
Speaker 3: or the Miami Heat. Joining me today to the attempt
Speaker 3: to break down this first round is my co host
Speaker 3: Carter Rodrigue.
Speaker 2: Carter, how are you doing, buddy?
Speaker 1: Attempt? It sounds like you're not sure we're going to
Speaker 1: be able to do it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's it's honestly the weirdest preview that we've done, because
Speaker 3: going into the playing we knew exactly who we're playing.
Speaker 3: Going into the nixt series, we knew who that they
Speaker 3: were going to play. We had a full week, you know,
Speaker 3: to break that down. We were able to do the
Speaker 3: same thing for the Orlando Magic. This is really the
Speaker 3: first time that you know, we're going into a series
Speaker 3: and you know, we're going to find out two.
Speaker 2: Days before We're going.
Speaker 3: To find out two days before Sunday who the Cavs
Speaker 3: are playing. And I'm interested to see what that dynamic
Speaker 3: is really like.
Speaker 1: You know, I think you could be guilty of accusing
Speaker 1: Adam Silver of too often listening to podcasters and worrying
Speaker 1: about what podcasters want. Talk about an inverted situation, you know,
Speaker 1: the monkey paw curly. You might be right there for
Speaker 1: everyone but podcasters.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 3: Well, here here's the funny thing, because Richard Jefferson brought
Speaker 3: this up on the tonight about how the Miami Heat,
Speaker 3: if they do make it through and if they are
Speaker 3: able to beat the Atlanta Hawks on Friday, they're basically
Speaker 3: going to be on the road eight days coming into
Speaker 3: game one of the playoffs. That is quite the disadvantage.
Speaker 3: And obviously, you know, if you're going to be the
Speaker 3: ten seed in the play in and earn your way
Speaker 3: to the playoffs, you should have to climb an uphill
Speaker 3: you know, that should be an uphill battle. I'm not
Speaker 3: feeling any sympathy for them, but when you talk about
Speaker 3: the cows inability to really prepare specifically for one team,
Speaker 3: I'm sure now they're going to be in the process
Speaker 3: of game planning for both the Hawks and the Heat.
Speaker 3: I still think that the lower seed is definitely at
Speaker 3: a disadvantage here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding, It's going to be interesting to see.
Speaker 1: I mean, I am now. You know, you never know
Speaker 1: exactly how you feel about this stuff till the dust settles.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like when you're when you're when you're partner
Speaker 1: and you are talking about restaurants and you've you've listed
Speaker 1: two that you'd be okay with, and then they pick
Speaker 1: one and you go, ah, that's not the one I wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, and you didn't really realize it wasn't the
Speaker 1: one you wanted till someone picked the other one. I
Speaker 1: kind of feel that way about the Orlando Magic. The
Speaker 1: second they stop being available, I was like, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of glad I don't have to deal.
Speaker 2: With that, Okay, So it's basically.
Speaker 3: That's an inverse scenario. I've I recognize that on the
Speaker 3: front end as much as I want to, you know, show, Hey,
Speaker 3: this is a different situation than it was last year.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, No, Geelan Suggs, that changes the complexion
Speaker 3: of the series. I already know that this is a
Speaker 3: better cast team than it was last year. And you know,
Speaker 3: no more Wagner like if what's the point of beating
Speaker 3: the Orlando Magic in five games if you can't rub
Speaker 3: it in most face, like, it's not the same when
Speaker 3: he's on the bench. So I'm more than half be
Speaker 3: to see the Boston Celtics go up against the Orlando Magic.
Speaker 3: And even if that series goes four or five games,
Speaker 3: physically it's probably going to feel like a six game
Speaker 3: series because that that is just what it's like to
Speaker 3: play Orlando.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, one can hope that, you know, the
Speaker 1: battle of attrition that is the playoffs takes its toll
Speaker 1: on the Celtics. Obviously don't want to root for anyone
Speaker 1: to get hurt. But you know, it's hard work playing
Speaker 1: those Magic It sucks. They hack more than any other
Speaker 1: team in the league. It's a key part of their identity.
Speaker 1: And for a team that has struggled with the injury bug, like,
Speaker 1: it's kind of nice to avoid that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Atlanta is a pretty physical team too, you know, they
Speaker 1: they'll beat you up a little bit. Daniels will get
Speaker 1: into the passing lanes. But you know, I do think
Speaker 1: there's still a pretty big difference between that in Orlando
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and you know, there's
Speaker 1: also just more spots on the Atlanta team to attack,
Speaker 1: you know. So overall, definitely happy to see Orlando. I
Speaker 1: was pretty indifferent. I didn't think Chicago was getting getting
Speaker 1: out of this thing.
Speaker 2: I actually did.
Speaker 3: I thought Chicago had a real chance because when you're
Speaker 3: looking at the post All Star Break stretch, they were
Speaker 3: almost like March doesn't matter, justin they were seventeen and ten.
Speaker 3: They you know, post All Star breaks, number ten offense,
Speaker 3: number fourteen defense. You know, they were trending in the
Speaker 3: right direction here, and you know, some of it I
Speaker 3: think is, hey, the Miami Heat, they are tough to
Speaker 3: kill no matter who is available for them. They always
Speaker 3: seem to get one game off of a team in
Speaker 3: a playoff series. They always seem to find a way
Speaker 3: to squeeze a little bit more life out of that
Speaker 3: towel and find a way to extend their season. So
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised to see them win, But part of
Speaker 3: me wondered, hey, you know, there's no Jimmy.
Speaker 2: Butler this time around.
Speaker 3: They've kind of had a tiring, tiring season. Are are
Speaker 3: they ready to just kind of check out as the
Speaker 3: ten seed going into the play And you know, the
Speaker 3: answer that we got tonight is absolutely not. I'm actually
Speaker 3: curious to ask you about this because we've talked about
Speaker 3: the play in the last couple of years, and I
Speaker 3: think we both have generally been fans of it, as
Speaker 3: your opinion evolved at all, now that we have more
Speaker 3: of a sample size, like I think, coming in, both
Speaker 3: of us liked it, and then the Cavs got eliminated
Speaker 3: in the play in, and even despite that, I was
Speaker 3: still saying, sitting here saying I think this.
Speaker 2: Is a net good for the league. Do you still
Speaker 2: feel that way? I do.
Speaker 1: I think this year wasn't maybe the most sterling example
Speaker 1: for it just because there was such a difference between
Speaker 1: seven through ten and eleven through fifteen in each conference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Where where there wasn't you know, you didn't see Toronto
Speaker 1: desperately trying to get into the play in. That's one
Speaker 1: of the things I've liked about it is that the middle,
Speaker 1: the lower middle class of the league is less likely
Speaker 1: to tank if they have a couple of postseason games
Speaker 1: of revenue that they might be able to chase.
Speaker 2: So you didn't have that, But.
Speaker 1: What you did have at West is this, you know,
Speaker 1: vicious race from the third seed to the eight seed
Speaker 1: trying to desperately avoid it and the other. So if
Speaker 1: I thought that it did more, I thought it did
Speaker 1: more to help with tanking than lottery of reform. And
Speaker 1: I also think what it did was it made it
Speaker 1: so there's six playoff spots, not not ten. Everyone's complaining
Speaker 1: that there's no ten. I'm saying there's only six. You know,
Speaker 1: we have a six and a wild card and that,
Speaker 1: and and I think that tension was really really good
Speaker 1: out West. So even in a year where I don't
Speaker 1: think it was perfect for like selling the play in,
Speaker 1: I still think it's a net good. It's It's funny
Speaker 1: because I think one this being such a great draft
Speaker 1: class probably shifted incentives for some of those lower teams.
Speaker 1: And I also think in the Eastern Conference, if Orlando
Speaker 1: was healthier for the majority of the season, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you have a seventh team and you're going
Speaker 1: to have a little bit of a race to avoid
Speaker 1: the play in right like Detroit with their forty four
Speaker 1: and thirty eight record, that's the exact same record that
Speaker 1: the Cavs had when they were the eight seed and
Speaker 1: lost in the play in right like. Normally that gets
Speaker 1: pushed down a little bit further. If Philadelphia was healthier,
Speaker 1: you would have, you know, another team in that mix.
Speaker 1: And honestly, as much as I hate to ever credit
Speaker 1: the Toronto Raptors, if that team was healthy and had
Speaker 1: their full roster available to them, you know, Emmanuel quickly, RJ.
Speaker 1: Barrett Brandon Ingram.
Speaker 2: You're missing the elephant in the room. Philly. I already
Speaker 2: said Philly. Oh, you said Philly. Okay, I led with them,
Speaker 2: good sir. Oh, actually I led with Orlando.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I heard Orlando in Toronto. I didn't hear
Speaker 1: anything about Philly.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I had them in there. If not,
Speaker 3: that's on me, So thank you to hold this man accountable.
Speaker 3: Don't hold me accountable if I'm wrong though, No, it's okay,
Speaker 3: But you know, having those extra teams in the mix
Speaker 3: would have caused more of that race for six.
Speaker 2: And really, the way that.
Speaker 3: I look at it is it's more of a punishment
Speaker 3: for seven and eight than it is a reward for
Speaker 3: nine and ten. Like, you know, you're really setting up
Speaker 3: that you know your season can fall apart in two games,
Speaker 3: so you better try like hell to avoid this thing.
Speaker 3: And you know it does give Let's say, you know,
Speaker 3: EMBIID didn't have to be shut down for the year
Speaker 3: and they could kind of stick around in that nine
Speaker 3: tenth spot allows it a good team that just had
Speaker 3: bad injury luck to have a chance to come in.
Speaker 3: Obviously that sucks for whoever sitting there in the one seed,
Speaker 3: but it's it's not like we haven't seen those scenarios before.
Speaker 3: So I feel like it's a net positive and in
Speaker 3: generally enjoy the games, and I feel like there has
Speaker 3: been some really good playing games over over the last
Speaker 3: couple of years, and there's also been some really good
Speaker 3: game maybe two. It's as bad as some of them
Speaker 3: March in April. Basketball can be when there it's teams
Speaker 3: in that race, particularly when they're playing against one another,
Speaker 3: you can get some really really good basketball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even like when it's not both teams that
Speaker 1: are participating, but you know, Harrison Barnes hits a game
Speaker 1: winner against Golden State pushes them into the play in
Speaker 1: now they now they have to fight for their lives.
Speaker 1: Now they get a very green young Rockets team to
Speaker 1: go up against, and it's going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: the old age versus beauty type of matchup. And like,
Speaker 1: now you get something really interesting based off a game
Speaker 1: that in you know, the old days.
Speaker 2: Just would be well whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, Like I do think there is a lot
Speaker 1: of net benefit and you know, I think almost you know,
Speaker 1: you're really not even seeing the discord us about the
Speaker 1: play anymore. I feel like it was just a pretty
Speaker 1: universally successful initiative.
Speaker 3: No, no, I've seen like the odd bad faith kind
Speaker 3: of argument, But in general, I feel like this is
Speaker 3: something that you know, as we get more years of
Speaker 3: experience with it, right, as it becomes more and more normalized.
Speaker 3: People once something no longer feels new, they stop feeling
Speaker 3: the need to pick it apart, and it just gets
Speaker 3: accepted as part of the game. And I like that
Speaker 3: it's around who do you think?
Speaker 2: You know? But before we dive.
Speaker 3: Into kind of the strengths of both Atlanta as well
Speaker 3: as Miami and how they match up against the Calves,
Speaker 3: how do you think that game is going to play
Speaker 3: out on Friday?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just going to pick Miami. I think
Speaker 1: they're a healthier team. I think they're a more you know,
Speaker 1: they've got more guys with playoff scars. You look at Atlanta,
Speaker 1: if you look at their normal roster, you definitely pick them.
Speaker 1: But you know, Mo Gay is playing for them, Dominic
Speaker 1: Barlow is playing for them again like real minutes. You know,
Speaker 1: these are the guys you kind of expect to be
Speaker 1: playing in March and April as the team is a
Speaker 1: little banged up. But then you know, then they clear
Speaker 1: out of the way for the tight rotation, and you know,
Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder played ten guys against Orlando, uh, And I
Speaker 1: just I just don't think they've got the depth. And
Speaker 1: I think Miami has a lot of guys to throw
Speaker 1: at Tray to make his life hard, you know. Davion
Speaker 1: Mitchell is just the perfect Heat culture player.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: Hero went absolutely ballistic tonight, you know, and and the
Speaker 1: other really good players in the Hawks. I just kind
Speaker 1: of feel like the the Heat kind of have good
Speaker 1: answers for you know, like me and you love Okongwu,
Speaker 1: but he is is he not?
Speaker 2: You know, great value brand?
Speaker 1: Bam out of Byo, Yeah, he's not going to get
Speaker 1: to do O Kong Wui stuff against Bam.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like of the players that are available, obviously,
Speaker 3: I think this is a different conversation if Jalen Johnson
Speaker 3: was available for Atlanta. I think there was an argument
Speaker 3: that he was their most impactful player when he was healthy.
Speaker 2: But you have to give the coaching edge to.
Speaker 3: Spolstra because I just think that he is not the
Speaker 3: best coach in the league. He's top three, right, like,
Speaker 3: I think just from track record what he's been able
Speaker 3: to do with that team, I think he's as good
Speaker 3: as it gets.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Bam out of Bayo, I think is one of the
Speaker 3: best defensive players in the league. He's a top five
Speaker 3: defensive player. Tyler Hero was an All Star this year.
Speaker 3: He's been terrific. Andrew Wiggins gave them really, really good
Speaker 3: minutes against Chicago and he's capable of playing well. So
Speaker 3: I definitely am leaning Miami, which is funny because I
Speaker 3: really felt like Chicago had a chance to come out
Speaker 3: out of this thing. But you know, maybe this is
Speaker 3: just you know, the the rock paper scissors of the NBA,
Speaker 3: and I'm just learning, Oh my, Miami is still rock.
Speaker 2: They're going to make it through it.
Speaker 3: They beat Chicago, so therefore they get to keep the
Speaker 3: belt and they get to advance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it just it also like you have
Speaker 1: a little bit of positive momentum on your side.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be interested, that's your point.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, once the play in, you know, gets fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty years of data under its belt, I will be
Speaker 1: curious to see how often the nine to ten winner
Speaker 1: kind of can sneak in.
Speaker 2: There's no ending.
Speaker 1: They're coming off a win, the other team's coming off
Speaker 1: a loss, you know, and there is like I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember feeling it in the seven eight game three
Speaker 1: years ago, like.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we lost, Now what's going to happen?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like you know, there's just this different kind
Speaker 1: of angst that that creeps in as at least as
Speaker 1: a And so I'm gonna pick Miami to win. I
Speaker 1: think that's if I'm the Cavs video staff, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: putting my best guys on Miami and a sixty forty
Speaker 1: split sixty forty attention split PERHBS. But of course that's
Speaker 1: not why I don't run a film room, because that's
Speaker 1: probably not how that works at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, basketball's a game of runs. When you're
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Speaker 3: Let's take a look at these teams, Carter. The thing
Speaker 3: that jumps out to me right away when I'm kind
Speaker 3: of looking at the season long stats, and this is
Speaker 3: very often the case when you are talking about what
Speaker 3: is functionally you know, the the eight seed and the
Speaker 3: ten seed right now competing for the eighth spot in
Speaker 3: the history books. These are not perfect teams. These are
Speaker 3: not teams that have a glaring strength. I would say
Speaker 3: Atlanta is seventeenth in offense and eighteenth in defense, below
Speaker 3: average in both or about average in both. Miami is
Speaker 3: the number twenty one offense, number nine defense, So you
Speaker 3: know there's a top ten trade. You at least expect
Speaker 3: an Eric Spolster team to play very well defensively, and
Speaker 3: I think we've seen that in some of those matchups.
Speaker 3: But what's going to be interesting to me is that
Speaker 3: the Cavs, on the other hand, have been really, really
Speaker 3: good across the board, and when you look at some
Speaker 3: of the areas where maybe there's been some slippage, like
Speaker 3: their number twenty two defensive rebound rate, neither of these
Speaker 3: teams really seem poise to take advantage of that. Atlanta
Speaker 3: is eight thirteenth in offensive rebound rate and Miami is
Speaker 3: twenty seventh. So if your prediction and my prediction is
Speaker 3: true Miami heat advanced through this, that is not a
Speaker 3: team that is likely to beat them up on the
Speaker 3: offensive glass.
Speaker 1: No, and I mean just up and down. These are
Speaker 1: the definition of.
Speaker 2: Teams.
Speaker 1: You know, you look you look at the standings and
Speaker 1: you see Miami with a plus point six point differential
Speaker 1: in the year in Atlanta with a minus one point one.
Speaker 1: I think it's important to say. I mean, anyone who's
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast already knows this, but the Cavs
Speaker 1: should win their series in four or five games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be very surprising just based on the profiles
Speaker 1: of the two teams if it went any other way.
Speaker 1: You know, teams that outscore their opponent by ten points
Speaker 1: a game rarely lose series. Two teams that almost get
Speaker 1: outscored on the season or finish their season eight games
Speaker 1: under five hundred. So important to say that. I will say,
Speaker 1: you know, this is where on the Atlanta side, I
Speaker 1: guess I'd like to start. On the Atlanta side, not
Speaker 1: having Capella available is hard for them.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: They just don't have a lot of size that's impactful.
Speaker 1: Okongwu is a very good offensive rebounder, Mogay is okay
Speaker 1: at it, but that's.
Speaker 2: Kind of it, you know, and.
Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of just BV big men.
Speaker 1: Dominic Barlow I think is you know a little bit
Speaker 1: you know of a tweener forward. He's not someone who's
Speaker 1: going to beat you up. And then guys who down
Speaker 1: their roster. You know, Daniels is a pretty good rebounders
Speaker 1: because he's a big guard. Reache is not as good
Speaker 1: as his size, but indicate Brett Young is obviously famously hurt, horrific.
Speaker 1: And then you look at the bench, it's niang Lavert
Speaker 1: like who you know, never were great rebounders for the
Speaker 1: Calves and still aren't for Atlanta. And then you guy
Speaker 1: like Terence Man, who you know once was a very
Speaker 1: hot prospect for the Clippers, only played ten minutes in
Speaker 1: that game against Orlando, and you know he was one
Speaker 1: of he was a good glass crasher in for the Clippers,
Speaker 1: but you know, he's just not important enough for them.
Speaker 1: So like, I just think they're not really that well
Speaker 1: built to beat us up physically, either on the glass
Speaker 1: or just in general.
Speaker 3: No, they really aren't. And when I'm looking at these matchups,
Speaker 3: I don't think that these teams should have a chance
Speaker 3: in the series. But you never know, if there's one
Speaker 3: aspect that at least the Calves can say, hey, this
Speaker 3: is a strength of theirs, let's work to take that away.
Speaker 3: And when it comes to the Atlanta Hawks, they like
Speaker 3: to get out in transition. They're number one in transition frequency,
Speaker 3: and for the Calves, transition defense it isn't poor, but
Speaker 3: it's not their biggest strength. There are eleventh in transition defense,
Speaker 3: and I'd be really interested to see if you do
Speaker 3: ultimately end up playing the Atlanta Hawks and they are
Speaker 3: getting out and running, maybe that is an opportunity for
Speaker 3: the Cavs to work on their transition defense, because if
Speaker 3: you end up playing the Indiana Pacers in the second round,
Speaker 3: you know that's a team that's going to get out
Speaker 3: and run. Boston may try to get out and run,
Speaker 3: and even though they're not the highest frequency transition team,
Speaker 3: how you defend those transition attempts versus Boston, whether you
Speaker 3: are finding the shooters in the corner, whether you're finding
Speaker 3: those guys streaking up and down the court, how you
Speaker 3: defend those possessions might be the difference in a series
Speaker 3: that we believe is going to have very thin margins.
Speaker 3: So I still think that there are things that you
Speaker 3: can take from these individual matchups, even though you are
Speaker 3: at an advantage and you should be the overwhelming favorite
Speaker 3: to win that series, because as I said, the Caves
Speaker 3: are eleventh in transition defense their fifth and half court defense.
Speaker 3: So typically when you have that as an indicator, that
Speaker 3: says your defense is going to be better in the postseason.
Speaker 3: But I still think that, you know, when I look
Speaker 3: at Atlanta, that's the number one thing that I'm looking at.
Speaker 3: They are a slightly above average offensive rebounding team. It's
Speaker 3: hard to use season averages when they are missing guys
Speaker 3: and they are banged up. But the one thing that
Speaker 3: we know they're going to do is they're going to
Speaker 3: get out and run. And because they know that they're
Speaker 3: at a talent deficit and they know that they know
Speaker 3: they're the eight seed versus the one seed, I would
Speaker 3: expect them to get up threes at a higher rate
Speaker 3: because really, three point attempts and three point variants, that's
Speaker 3: probably your best chance at a great equalizer. That game
Speaker 3: that they won in Cleveland, not the weird Thanksgiving afternoon game,
Speaker 3: but the one. The game they won in Cleveland, they
Speaker 3: got fewer than their normal average in terms of wide
Speaker 3: open three point looks. They just made them at a
Speaker 3: really really high clip in a game where the Calves
Speaker 3: generated I think it was thirty two wide open three
Speaker 3: point attempts and just didn't make any of them. Your
Speaker 3: best chance of getting a game off the Calves is
Speaker 3: by banking on that kind of variant. So I'd expect
Speaker 3: them to get try to get easy baskets and transition
Speaker 3: and try to get those three pointers up at a high,
Speaker 3: high rate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the other thing they're going to
Speaker 1: try to do is just try to get the Calves
Speaker 1: in rotation. I'll be really interested to see what the
Speaker 1: Calves decided to do defensively in that series if it
Speaker 1: comes to pass. You know, one thing that we really
Speaker 1: criticized JB and the game plan for in that play
Speaker 1: in game three years ago was that, you know, they
Speaker 1: kind of left what they were doing and we're just
Speaker 1: and then we're very rigid. You know, they said we're
Speaker 1: gonna switch everything. First half, it was going quite well.
Speaker 1: Second half, Trey Young figured out that, yeah, I can
Speaker 1: score on Lowry Markinen and just it was just a
Speaker 1: parade of you know, beating marketing off the dribble, help
Speaker 1: having to come against set shooters, and just feeding the corners,
Speaker 1: feeding lob threats, feeding. You know, Trey is at his best,
Speaker 1: one of the great offensive engines in the league. You know,
Speaker 1: when when he when the when the jumper is going
Speaker 1: for him. I mean, he is a passing savant. He
Speaker 1: led the league and assist this year. And I'll be
Speaker 1: really interested to see how different the Calves want to
Speaker 1: get with their defensive fundamentals and how they want to
Speaker 1: chase him. You know, are they just going to switch everything? Uh,
Speaker 1: that's certainly a strategy. Are they going to Are they
Speaker 1: going to show him size and put two on the
Speaker 1: ball and make him outlet and trust the rotations on
Speaker 1: the back end?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, probably don't want to play a ton of
Speaker 1: drop on Trey. That's kind of one of the things
Speaker 1: he likes to likes to to beat up. But like,
Speaker 1: how are you going to both corral him and keep
Speaker 1: the keep the uh, you know, corral has passing and
Speaker 1: not just let him go ballistic on an army of
Speaker 1: floaters like this very well could be a series where
Speaker 1: Trey scores forty plus in two or three games. That's
Speaker 1: kind of my opinion, kind of their only road to
Speaker 1: stealing two or three games in this series.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something I want to say, and I don't
Speaker 3: want it to be as disrespectful as it's going to sound.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to say it anyways, and it's just
Speaker 3: going to sound that way, But in a lot of ways,
Speaker 3: he's scout teams Tyrese haliburtn Like you know, you get
Speaker 3: you get to practice what you're going to have to
Speaker 3: do against Tyrese Halliburn VERSU Tray Young, just like you know,
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons was the stand in for Jokic for the Clippers,
Speaker 3: Like you know, that's obviously Trey Young is much closer
Speaker 3: to Tyrese Halliburn, but how you have to defend him
Speaker 3: is going to be very similar. Obviously, there's no way
Speaker 3: to guarantee that the Indiana Pacers are going to make
Speaker 3: it to the next round. But these are the type
Speaker 3: of things that you you kind of have to look into,
Speaker 3: right Like, you want to challenge yourself. You want to
Speaker 3: gain experience of making the adjustments, trying to take away
Speaker 3: the strengths. Even if you don't need to make adjustments
Speaker 3: to win the series, you still want to get that practice.
Speaker 3: So you want to, you know, get that muscle memory
Speaker 3: of the execution. And I think that's really what I'm
Speaker 3: trying to take away from this first round here, That's
Speaker 3: what I really really want to learn because the last
Speaker 3: two years first round series has been a dogfight. One
Speaker 3: of them they lost, one of them they won, but
Speaker 3: it never really felt like they were fully in control
Speaker 3: of the series. And now the Calves have the talent,
Speaker 3: they have the health, they have everything that they need to,
Speaker 3: you know, impose their will on a series. It's about
Speaker 3: are they able to do that effectively? Is are they
Speaker 3: able to be as dominant as they were in the
Speaker 3: regular season. And you know, coming into game one and two, yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't know who your opponent is until two days before,
Speaker 3: but really like games one and two, you're kind of
Speaker 3: coming out with your base plan to some extent, like
Speaker 3: you are going to tweak your game plan to what
Speaker 3: you think is going to work well against the other team.
Speaker 3: But typically game three is where you really see adjustments
Speaker 3: in a series. I'm sure the Cavs have a game
Speaker 3: plan in mind for the Atlanta Hawks and for the
Speaker 3: Miami Heat. They're going to highlight things in the film session,
Speaker 3: but you're not really going to deviate from that game
Speaker 3: one game plan for the first two games because you're
Speaker 3: trying to get an appropriate sample size as well of
Speaker 3: a like you know this, we think this work is
Speaker 3: going to work, even if it didn't work particularly well
Speaker 3: in Game one, and that little chess match. Chess matches
Speaker 3: is what I'm looking for here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think really like what you're talking about isn't
Speaker 1: necessarily about playing perfectly. It's about, you know, imposing your style. Yes,
Speaker 1: And like I think as impressive as I thought that
Speaker 1: Magic series was for the Cavs, I'm not sure I
Speaker 1: would say they imposed their style. They played an Orlando
Speaker 1: game and just beat Orlando at Orlando's game, you know,
Speaker 1: I would actually argue they played more close to Cavaliers
Speaker 1: basketball against the Celtics, uh than.
Speaker 2: Lando.
Speaker 3: The Orlando series was trusting the defense, they got in
Speaker 3: a rock fight, and Donovan Mitchell happened to be better
Speaker 3: than Palo Bank Carol. Like that's really what it came
Speaker 3: down to, Like kind of that lead initiator was the
Speaker 3: lead initiator and Mitchell did a better.
Speaker 2: Job of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like what you want at some point
Speaker 1: is Atlanta to be kind of looking around at their
Speaker 1: you know, looking around at each other and the huddle
Speaker 1: going what we need to change everything? Like that's what
Speaker 1: you want them to have to be saying, because like
Speaker 1: we're not in control of this series in any meaningful way,
Speaker 1: and like that's what I think you really want to see.
Speaker 1: But with that said, I do want to ask a
Speaker 1: couple of rotation questions before we pivot over to Okay, Miami,
Speaker 1: Is this an Isaca Korro series?
Speaker 3: Yes, you're playing Tray Young. I would like to see, Honestly,
Speaker 3: I would like to have a Coro in the early
Speaker 3: rotation of all of these kind of matchups, no matter
Speaker 3: who we're playing, even if it doesn't feel like as
Speaker 3: much of an Icycle Coro series on paper, at least
Speaker 3: from the defensive standpoint, because I want to get him
Speaker 3: those reps offensively, and I want to see if we can,
Speaker 3: you know, with the new ways that we're using him,
Speaker 3: if he can be an effective part of the rotation
Speaker 3: kind of regardless of matchup, we're still talking about someone that's,
Speaker 3: you know what, twenty three years old here, Like, getting
Speaker 3: good data on Isco Coro is a really important thing
Speaker 3: for me. So I obviously against Trey Young, I think
Speaker 3: he does as good of a job as anybody in
Speaker 3: the league, So it's definitely a yes for me. But
Speaker 3: I just wanted to have that qualifier of even if
Speaker 3: it's a series where it isn't as important even if
Speaker 3: you're playing a Milwaukee Bucks where there isn't a huge
Speaker 3: strategic advantage of putting him on a dynamic guard. I
Speaker 3: would still like to see Isaac Ocor out there in
Speaker 3: the early series rotation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would too. I asked the question because I
Speaker 1: do think it is. What's going to be important though
Speaker 1: for him is making Atlanta pay when they have Trey
Speaker 1: sashed on him. Yes, he needs to bully him, He
Speaker 1: needs to use his physicality. He needs to be a
Speaker 1: great screener for the guards to get Dyson Daniels, who
Speaker 1: is there, you know, one of the best point of
Speaker 1: attack guard defenders in the NBA. Get him out of
Speaker 1: the paint, get him away from from Darius and Donovan
Speaker 1: when they have the ball. You know, because I do
Speaker 1: imagine a lot of Okuoros Mints will come at the
Speaker 1: two in this in this series if he's going to
Speaker 1: be a major part of your rotation, So you're not
Speaker 1: going to have two of Darius Donovan tie and some
Speaker 1: of those lineups.
Speaker 2: Some of them you will, But like you know, just.
Speaker 1: In terms of making because Atlanta has pretty good positional size,
Speaker 1: you know, it gets really messy to be like, all right,
Speaker 1: tied Jerome, you got Resa Shay who's six' ten playing small,
Speaker 1: forward like you're gonna you're gonna have to make some you,
Speaker 1: know some interesting lineup decisions with who is guarding who
Speaker 1: and the in the minutes Where okoro's at the, three
Speaker 1: if you want him going and chasing around the only
Speaker 1: small player on the floor For, ATLANTA.
Speaker 2: I agree with.
Speaker 3: You i'm very curious if we're going to be right,
Speaker 3: Though Like i'm very curious to see if we change
Speaker 3: up the rotation or if we end up seeing you,
Speaker 3: know the constant two guard no matter, what and even
Speaker 3: some three guard lineups would Sam, Merril i'm, really, really
Speaker 3: really curious to see if that ultimately is the, case
Speaker 3: because what you're saying makes absolute. SENSE i think this
Speaker 3: is a series for the calves to use their. Wings
Speaker 3: because you have wings, available you have the option to
Speaker 3: play it. Larger we'll see if that ends up coming to.
Speaker 3: Fruition that's that's one of those things we may learn
Speaker 3: about How Kenny atkinson chooses to approach the playoffs that
Speaker 3: you're just not going to learn until you're in the.
Speaker 1: Playoffs, yeah for, sure and THEN i And i'll let
Speaker 1: you also do closing thoughts in a final pick if It's.
Speaker 1: Atlanta BUT i just think at the end of the,
Speaker 1: day they just don't have enough answers for what The
Speaker 1: calves have from a roster. Perspective you, know we were
Speaker 1: talking on the discord today AND i think you Mentioned
Speaker 1: George niang is gonna have to put in shifts On
Speaker 1: Evan mobley like.
Speaker 2: You stole my series. Preview i'm, sorry you, know AND
Speaker 2: i just.
Speaker 1: Or it's going to Be mogay And Don, barlow and you,
Speaker 1: know it's like like WHAT i suspect will happen in
Speaker 1: this series if it goes the way we hope it,
Speaker 1: goes is one of The hawks role players is going
Speaker 1: to be getting, cooked whether It's, niang whether It's, barlow
Speaker 1: whether whoever it. Is and someone's gonna say we got
Speaker 1: to get them off the, floor and smart fans of
Speaker 1: The hawks will say for, who you, know like they
Speaker 1: JUST i just think their toolkit isn't quite big. ENOUGH i,
Speaker 1: mean you can downshift a, little you, know you can
Speaker 1: Do vitkritchi and Parents man and play uber small, ball but,
Speaker 1: LIKE i just DON'T i don't think they've got enough guys,
Speaker 1: that you, know you really really can.
Speaker 3: Trust, yeah like you might switch like we talk About
Speaker 3: icicle korl moving down the you know assignments playing small
Speaker 3: four but Guarding Tray young and some of the cross
Speaker 3: matching you're doing. There you might have the same thing
Speaker 3: on The hawks, side just even, reverse Where reesaha is
Speaker 3: playing shooting guard but he's Guarding Evan mobley as the,
Speaker 3: four And George niang is like sliding down to Guard
Speaker 3: Isaac okoro or something on those, lines, right because that's
Speaker 3: not going to be a beneficial. MATCHUP i think that
Speaker 3: would look a lot like when he was trying to
Speaker 3: Guard palo in last Year's Magic, series which you, know
Speaker 3: when you look at how Good Evan mobley has gone
Speaker 3: in space and also just how Good Evan mobley is
Speaker 3: at finishing over, guys like that's that's the biggest.
Speaker 1: One and they won't give you the bailout Stuff pala gives, you.
Speaker 2: Right and like.
Speaker 3: Okong wu is six eight six,' Nine george nangs six,
Speaker 3: Y seven mogay's got some, good length but not a.
Speaker 3: Big dude mobley just finishes, Over GUYS and i think
Speaker 3: we are Going to we've talked about it for Years
Speaker 3: That evan mobley is going to be the one that
Speaker 3: dictates how Far the cavs go and. All THAT but
Speaker 3: i think we're really going to get a feel for
Speaker 3: how Much Better evan mobley is and how his game
Speaker 3: is going to translate to the playoffs in game one of.
Speaker 3: Round one, Is this both of these matchups should be
Speaker 3: Series Where evan mobley plays a very, significant ROLE and
Speaker 3: i think getting him going should be goal number one in.
Speaker 3: The playoffs we need To Have evan mobley playing, really well,
Speaker 3: playing confident and, you know being a two way monster.
Speaker 3: OUT there i think that Is the cav's best pathway.
Speaker 3: To success and if we can build positive momentum in,
Speaker 3: that direction why not start in?
Speaker 1: Round, one bear what's your pick For A atlanta Hawk's cliving?
Speaker 1: Cavaliers series CAAs. And four I'm going calves. IN five
Speaker 1: I think I think trey is capable of stealing the game.
Speaker 1: AGAINST anyone i think they have enough. Shooting variants they
Speaker 1: have shooting talent on.
Speaker 2: That, roster Yes and karis can go for, forty one we, know,
Speaker 2: That yeah.
Speaker 1: SO like i just think they have enough volatility offensively that,
Speaker 1: YOU know i think they've what eighteenth, On OFFENSE but
Speaker 1: i think there are nights where they look like the
Speaker 1: fifth best offense in, the league, you, Know yep and
Speaker 1: there're just other nights where they look like the twenty
Speaker 1: fifth and that's how you get. To eighteenth BUT but
Speaker 1: i think they're just a more valid old team than
Speaker 1: their averages kind of make. Them Look so I'm going calves.
Speaker 1: IN five i want To. Talk miami you want to.
Speaker 1: Go first here's, The.
Speaker 3: THING miami I think i really want THEM because i
Speaker 3: Want the calves to experience some form of a test in.
Speaker 3: The PLAYOFFS and i think going Up Against eric spolstra
Speaker 3: is going to force them to make the types of
Speaker 3: ADJUSTMENTS that i, Was, saying hey that's that's what you
Speaker 3: want to, experience with that's what you want to kind
Speaker 3: of try out in. The, PLAYOFFS here I think spoe
Speaker 3: is going to throw different things. AT them i think
Speaker 3: they're going to be forced to do. Problem solving and
Speaker 3: if my, primary motivation if my number one area of
Speaker 3: interest heading into the first round Is Can evin mobley get?
Speaker 3: It Going Can evin mobley show that this, is different
Speaker 3: that he is ready to do what's necessary to get
Speaker 3: this team a championship. This season going UP against Bam
Speaker 3: At a bayo is the perfect matchup to make that
Speaker 3: kind of, a statement because bam. Is phenomenal he's someone
Speaker 3: that we have compared, mobily to, you know basically since
Speaker 3: he entered the league that we wanted to see him
Speaker 3: basically be a Bigger Bam. Ata bayo that matchup would,
Speaker 3: Be fascinating the coaching matchup would, Be FASCINATING and I
Speaker 3: think miami has the ability to really Test, the calves
Speaker 3: not in terms of pushing, the SERIES but i think
Speaker 3: they'd have to play at a higher level than they
Speaker 3: Would against atlanta in order to win the series in
Speaker 3: four or.
Speaker 1: Five games it's a weird THING where i don't disagree
Speaker 1: with anything you, just SAID but i do have this
Speaker 1: weird HEADSPACE where i feel Like the hawks will Test
Speaker 1: the calves stylistically, more okay because of the Singularity, of trey,
Speaker 1: you know the style and the way he binds and
Speaker 1: breaks your brain a little bit when he's, Really ON
Speaker 1: whereas i feel Like the calves will play won't have
Speaker 1: to make one change to the way they've played all
Speaker 1: year To. Beat miami they just will have to execute very.
Speaker 3: Very well let me ask, YOU this i agree that
Speaker 3: how you have to Account For. Trey young that's a
Speaker 3: different beast Than What tyler herro is going. To DO
Speaker 3: like I Trust donovan mitchell To Guard, TYLER hero i
Speaker 3: trust guys up and down the roster To Guard.
Speaker 2: Tyler hero are you.
Speaker 3: Trying to learn about the defense or you're trying to
Speaker 3: learn about, the OFFENSE because i want to learn about,
Speaker 3: the OFFENSE and I think miami is going to Test
Speaker 3: the cavs offense, as much if not More than atlanta
Speaker 3: would Test the. Cavs DEFENSE and i don't worry About the.
Speaker 3: CAVES defense i understand that theoretically that might come up
Speaker 3: at some point in, the playoffs but it has not
Speaker 3: at any point to. This point AND because i want
Speaker 3: to learn about the offense translating in, THE playoffs I
Speaker 3: think miami is the more interesting test for.
Speaker 2: That, Reason yeah i'm not even. Saying it lana is.
Speaker 1: More interesting IT'S just i just think it's a style
Speaker 1: thing in terms of How the calves might tweak what.
Speaker 1: They're doing and part of it's Just because atlana's got more,
Speaker 1: weak points then you might that you're more willing to
Speaker 1: go out of your way, to attack, you know if that,
Speaker 1: makes sense you might so you might just do things
Speaker 1: differently on both ends of the ball than what you've done. All,
Speaker 1: YEAR like i don't you want to see if we're
Speaker 1: going to match, up hunt like if we're just going
Speaker 1: to get really all.
Speaker 2: THAT time i don't even KNOW if i want.
Speaker 1: TO see i just kind of think, they might, YOU
Speaker 1: know i think they might just behave a, little Differently
Speaker 1: whereas miami is just like they play one, drop big
Speaker 1: they play one man out, of bio they play a big,
Speaker 1: small forward they play a shooty, shooting guard they play
Speaker 1: they play, You know burks a little Bit and daveyon for,
Speaker 1: ball pressure, you know And Like andrews. Revenge SERIES maybe i,
Speaker 1: don't know he's always been GOOD, AGAINST us, i. THINK
Speaker 1: uh i, just THINK like i don't, YOU know i
Speaker 1: Asked about Isaac, o quoro uh and and if they
Speaker 1: should kind of tweak the rotation to give him. More
Speaker 1: RUN and i do agree that, you're right they. Probably
Speaker 1: won't if they, do tweak it won't be till, mid
Speaker 1: series Even. Against atlanta, BUT like i don't think they
Speaker 1: could or should tweak their rotation Really. AGAINST miami i
Speaker 1: think they should play one how they've played, all year,
Speaker 1: you KNOW because i, think defensively they should be able
Speaker 1: to do a really really good job On this. Miami,
Speaker 1: Team offensively miami gives up more as in the bottom
Speaker 1: third of the league and three, pointers allowed so they
Speaker 1: should be able to get because they're a team that
Speaker 1: you can get into rotation And the cavs.
Speaker 2: Are really really a lot of.
Speaker 1: Them exactly so like all the things that Make, the
Speaker 1: cabs that has Made the cabs offense prolific, This year
Speaker 1: miami is not that well built. TO stop i think,
Speaker 1: IF anything I actually i'm. NOT sure i would Say
Speaker 1: that miami inherently is a much greater Test. Than, atlanta
Speaker 1: DEFENSIVELY though i do think they are just literally because
Speaker 1: OF the, Vam FACTOR but i would actually say they're
Speaker 1: much greater Tests For, Evan mobley like we'll learn More About,
Speaker 1: evan mobley, actually more but if he goes Off, against
Speaker 1: miami then we'll really know we have a, Stew going
Speaker 1: whereas if he goes Off, against atlanta will be really
Speaker 1: encouraged and that will be new in terms of like
Speaker 1: dominating a series start, to finish but like it'll be
Speaker 1: different If.
Speaker 3: It's, pam yeah that's part OF why i want to.
Speaker 3: SEE it i Believe That kevin mobley is a guy
Speaker 3: that can clear, high bars so why not set them.
Speaker 3: UP high i don't. NEED them i don't need the
Speaker 3: high jump to be a three feet to start, things
Speaker 3: off which is what going Up Against george name would
Speaker 3: be in COMPARISON to Bamai. To bayo let's set it
Speaker 3: high and see what he can. Do there let's see
Speaker 3: if he can do a backflip over that high. Jump
Speaker 3: bar i'm Here For evan mobley being TESTED because i
Speaker 3: think he's going to pass.
Speaker 2: Those tests looking.
Speaker 3: At how miami's, performed defensively they are the number nine
Speaker 3: defense IN the nba this season and the number nine half,
Speaker 3: court defense so that's. Certainly interesting they're twenty six in,
Speaker 3: transition frequency so that one area Where the calves are
Speaker 3: less than great in terms of the. Transition defense miami
Speaker 3: isn't going to test them in. That area they are
Speaker 3: not a particularly good. Transition defense miami is twenty first in,
Speaker 3: transition defense While, the calves despite not being a high transition,
Speaker 3: frequency team they are number three in. Transition EFFICIENCY so
Speaker 3: i would Expect the cast to be able to get
Speaker 3: some easy. Buckets there although we do know that postseason
Speaker 3: basketball tends to kind of shift towards the half court
Speaker 3: more so than getting out.
Speaker 1: And, running yeah but we what we do need to
Speaker 1: see them get the buckets that. Are there, you know
Speaker 1: if we want to see this offense hold up the
Speaker 1: way that we're all kind of desperately hoping, and praying
Speaker 1: it does means you got to get the easy ones
Speaker 1: when they're available.
Speaker 2: To YOU so i do think.
Speaker 1: THAT'S interesting I think miami's positional size is. Pretty strong,
Speaker 1: you know You've got hero at, Six four marks at,
Speaker 1: Six five wiggins at six seven, Six eight bam at, six'
Speaker 1: nine where is a true seven to one though you know.
Speaker 1: He's a rookie if that'll be a good belt Weather
Speaker 1: for the cavs offense is how quickly they Can Make, Spogo.
Speaker 2: Kyle, anderson Hey, what hi smith please come.
Speaker 1: Save the defense we can't have this child out here like,
Speaker 1: that's you know like that will be a good belt
Speaker 1: weather for How well the Haves offenses functioning like where
Speaker 1: played twenty minutes in, this he starts but he only
Speaker 1: he doesn't play like thirty forty minutes a, game for,
Speaker 1: them you know getting chasing him from the floor is
Speaker 1: a good belt weather for how well the. Offense is
Speaker 1: running but they do have, good positional, size you know
Speaker 1: and even. When they downshift And You, know kyle anderson
Speaker 1: who you know isn't, a you know, brutish power forward
Speaker 1: but has really good length, and you know as a
Speaker 1: guy who just always makes, really smart plays you know
Speaker 1: he can he can Very Credibly guard evan mobley. In
Speaker 1: the post you know that's. Not a Problem heyward high
Speaker 1: smith can guard up. Really REALLY well so i think
Speaker 1: they they and, THEN you know I just think i,
Speaker 1: think that bench the two bench benches against each other
Speaker 1: will be a. Really interesting battle like when You, look
Speaker 1: at miami you're almost more impressed by the guys coming
Speaker 1: off the bench than the. Guys who, Start You know
Speaker 1: davion mitchell, as you know fit. Like a glove there
Speaker 1: the the, intense ball pressure Which we know. Calves don't
Speaker 1: like uh is something that uh that that flips. Games
Speaker 1: For them kyle anderson is just such a freaking grown.
Speaker 1: Up out there he can he can played twenty three
Speaker 1: minutes and not attempt a shot and b plus fifteen like.
Speaker 1: He was Tonight, heywood high smith can you know when
Speaker 1: that three? Pointer is going especially you know, all that,
Speaker 1: athleticism all that all those. Smarts Really Playing then duncan
Speaker 1: robinson is kind of this chaos Agent who swings benjamin
Speaker 1: it's when when, with his, MOVEMENT you know i Mean
Speaker 1: He's basically Sam Merrill if sam merril. Was. Six, eight
Speaker 1: yeah uh and that's very a good. Thing TO be,
Speaker 1: so i think how The if, the calves, bench you
Speaker 1: know Draws dead, With miami's Bench If if, Tye Sam
Speaker 1: o'coro hunter wade or Like even, WITH miami's bench i
Speaker 1: think we're, winning this. Very Very comfortably if miami's bench
Speaker 1: is changing the shape of the game and consistently messing,
Speaker 1: up THE vibes then I think the calves might have
Speaker 1: a bit more of a fight. On, their, HANDS yeah
Speaker 1: yeah i. Agree with that where would you go on A?
Speaker 1: Series with miami what are? You picking here i'm also
Speaker 1: going to go caves. In FIVE here just i. THINK
Speaker 1: the style i think this is a better Matchup.
Speaker 2: For the calves.
Speaker 1: But but like miami, Always gets one miami's always going.
Speaker 1: TO get one i think they have the best coach.
Speaker 1: IN the league i think if either series was more likely,
Speaker 1: TO go along i would pick this one. For that
Speaker 1: reason spoe, Is A demon BUT i THINK i think
Speaker 1: i Would. RATHER play Miami i. Think i'm there i'd rather.
Speaker 1: See the test i'd rather get. Really good data i'd
Speaker 1: really like to see how they handle a super well,
Speaker 1: coached together team even if the talent level, isn't you
Speaker 1: Know even what orlando.
Speaker 2: Was last year and, let's be.
Speaker 3: HONEST we're selfish i think, from you know breaking, down
Speaker 3: the series breaking down, GAME by game i think it's
Speaker 3: more interesting to talk About what a miami. SERIES would
Speaker 3: be i just think that the test there and just
Speaker 3: what supposed able to do and even just the top End,
Speaker 3: Talent of miami like you could probably Make An argument
Speaker 3: Tyler Hero versus tree young this year in terms of
Speaker 3: like overall impact and. STUFF like that i Probably, would
Speaker 3: lean tray but it's close enough that you could. MAKE
Speaker 3: that argument I still think bam is the best player
Speaker 3: out of. All that bunch, i'll be honest my brain,
Speaker 3: is telling, ME you know cavsn five when It. Comes
Speaker 3: TO miami but i really do have a gut Feeling
Speaker 3: that the cavs are going to sweep this. FIRST round
Speaker 3: series i think they have been less interested in, the
Speaker 3: regular season having locked up things for, a WHILE now
Speaker 3: and i feel like this is a team that, has
Speaker 3: championship goals that is hungry to. Make A statement and
Speaker 3: i think what they are. Going to do you know
Speaker 3: the experience of recognizing what a long series can, do,
Speaker 3: to you right Like they dominated orlando in games, one
Speaker 3: and two and then that series went on. For too
Speaker 3: long that had an impact on how the Series. WENT
Speaker 3: against boston i think you learn. From, that experience yeah
Speaker 3: and you know you talk about the bench and can
Speaker 3: our bench play them their? Bench, to, draw honestly man
Speaker 3: like we got two of the Top three six Man
Speaker 3: of the Year candidates In Tijerum. And DeAndre hunter our
Speaker 3: starting lineup should be the. Better starting lineup our bench
Speaker 3: should be.
Speaker 2: The.
Speaker 3: BETTER bench, spoe i agree best coach, In The league
Speaker 3: kenny atkinson was the best. COACH this year i Think.
Speaker 3: CAN sweep miami i think that would be a hell
Speaker 3: of a. Statement to make and that is my OFFICIAL prediction.
Speaker 1: HERE i asked I Went on Lockdown calves On Monday
Speaker 1: with DANNY cunningham and i asked him A question that
Speaker 1: i'm gonna, ask you, now which is is there any
Speaker 1: Performance that the cavs can have in the first round
Speaker 1: that would change how you feel Going into a boston
Speaker 1: Series in. The, conference, FINALS no no i think mobily
Speaker 1: having a great series is going to HELP solidify.
Speaker 3: How i feel but we talked about this on. THE
Speaker 3: last podcast i am starting my expectations at a High
Speaker 3: level and.
Speaker 2: I'm just going.
Speaker 3: To maintain those i'm not going, to you know start
Speaker 3: leaping up Proportionally if.
Speaker 2: The calves do have.
Speaker 3: A great series i have a very very high level
Speaker 3: of Confidence that this calves team can play the way
Speaker 3: that we've seen them play when they're playing. At Their
Speaker 3: best so i'm just going to, meet matain, that you,
Speaker 3: know throughout playoffs my. CONFIDENCE can shrink i don't think
Speaker 3: it can GO up because i respect The challenge. THAT
Speaker 3: boston is i think that's going to be a rock,
Speaker 3: By that series and you know that kind of swaying
Speaker 3: variance of me believing, it's you know a forty sixty
Speaker 3: chance to a true fifty, to fifty chance, or you
Speaker 3: know if both teams, are fully healthy that's probably kind
Speaker 3: of like my margin. For error there, But in general
Speaker 3: i'm going to, kind of, maintain you. KNOW the SAME
Speaker 3: i don't I don't think i can push up my
Speaker 3: level of confidence from from where.
Speaker 2: It's.
Speaker 1: Already, AT uh intellectually i completely, agree with you and. You,
Speaker 1: ARE right emotionally i think they still can answer some
Speaker 1: some vibe check questions for me if they go if
Speaker 1: they get through a first round series with a one
Speaker 1: eighteen offensive rating and they're putting, up, one, twenty one
Speaker 1: five one thirty in some, of These games and i'm going, to,
Speaker 1: be like, oh, oh oh, like you know it'll really
Speaker 1: like it'll it will be. Kind of one it can
Speaker 1: be one of the last pieces on. My confidence journey yeah,
Speaker 1: with this, team YOU know because i just haven't. Seen it,
Speaker 1: yet so like EVEN though intellectually i see all the
Speaker 1: indicators that tell me that this offense should be great,
Speaker 1: IN the postseason i still. Haven't seen IT so, ONCE
Speaker 1: i do i do think it's going to unlock a
Speaker 1: little piece, for me emotionally and my emotions and my
Speaker 1: intellect will. Ideally be aligned.
Speaker 3: If we Get To The eastern conference finals in ten
Speaker 3: games and we have a one twenty offensive rating, in
Speaker 3: The playoffs like i'm going to be sending you those
Speaker 3: little messages on the, side, being like dog we, can.
Speaker 2: Do this we.
Speaker 1: Can do this' that was the root, of my QUESTION
Speaker 1: is am i going to be? Getting those messages you're.
Speaker 2: Probably going to be. Getting those messages, let's be.
Speaker 3: Real it's me i'm excitable, and, you know yeah that's
Speaker 3: what this time of. Years all about, it's about belief it's,
Speaker 3: about having fun it's about enjoying this because we are
Speaker 3: going to be, entering some high high. Stress scenarios here
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Are always stressful every game, matters so much
Speaker 3: every possession.
Speaker 2: Matters so much, and you know this is.
Speaker 3: A high pressure environment for. Our guys too like when you,
Speaker 3: are this good it, comes with expectations it. Comes With
Speaker 3: Pressure can darius garland have a? Great playoff series kenny
Speaker 3: have a? Great playoff run we haven't really seen.
Speaker 2: That From, him evan.
Speaker 3: Mobley same question you know he's probably going to BE an,
Speaker 3: all nba player which means you're in that. Top fifteen
Speaker 3: range when you are anointed newly anointed as a top
Speaker 3: fifteen PLAYER, of the nba that's going to come with a.
Speaker 3: Lot of pressure that's going to come with a lot
Speaker 3: of people looking to. Pick that apart that is part,
Speaker 3: of the game that is. Fair Play Man, so evan
Speaker 3: mobley there's pressure on him going, Into the playoffs donovan
Speaker 3: trying to get out of the second round for the
Speaker 3: first time. In His career kenny atkinson trying to get
Speaker 3: out of the first round for the first time in
Speaker 3: his career. As a, Coach You, KNOW jared allen i
Speaker 3: thought he really acquitted Himself. Great, against orlando, UNFORTUNATELY you
Speaker 3: know i think people were unfair when it came to that.
Speaker 3: Broken rib situation but he has a chance to make
Speaker 3: a statement and help shift, perception, to WHERE frankly where
Speaker 3: i think it should. Be all along so there's big
Speaker 3: time pressure, on, This team man and when you have
Speaker 3: big time pressure and you, answer the bell.
Speaker 2: That comes with a.
Speaker 3: Sense of relief as a, fan like that that is
Speaker 3: one of the best. Feelings THERE is so i think
Speaker 3: it is fair to both acknowledge that pressure and also,
Speaker 3: just you know the the excitement that comes when you
Speaker 3: achieve and you match and. Exceed lofty, expectations, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: brother it's. Time let's go. Let's do this next podcast
Speaker 3: will be, after game one very very, before game one thank,
Speaker 3: you very much, before game one before game one for.
Speaker 3: Sure on YouTube next one up on the feed from,
Speaker 3: an audio standpoint is probably going To be Postgame game
Speaker 3: one we will be on Site. At in cleveland very.
Speaker 3: Excited For that rocket arena is going. To be rocking
Speaker 3: it's going to be hard for me to not, say
Speaker 3: Romo fijo but i'm still getting. Used to that but
Speaker 3: very very excited To. Travel to cleveland we will Have
Speaker 3: coverage four Games one, and game two as well as
Speaker 3: every game. Throughout the playoffs we will be recording podcasts
Speaker 3: whether We are in cleveland or whether we are sitting here.
Speaker 3: In these chairs so very very excited to. Break that
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