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Speaker 1: into you're just going to auto it is Gil Alexander
Speaker 1: Division round. Oh boy, do we have a lot to
Speaker 1: talk about? Um. Maybe not quite as much in terms
Speaker 1: of coaching gaffs that was the case last week after
Speaker 1: wild Card weekend, but certainly much to talk about rules,
Speaker 1: to discuss coaching changes. Uh. And of course it's the
Speaker 1: it's the Packers and the Buccaneer years in the NFC,
Speaker 1: the Bay of Pigs, as Chris Berman used to say it. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then in the in the a f C, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's Kansas City and Buffalo maybe the four teams
Speaker 1: we thought, although the Buccaneers may be replaced by the Saints,
Speaker 1: maybe so maybe not the four teams we thought. The
Speaker 1: first thing I want to say is shout out to
Speaker 1: Aaron Shots, because people went a little after Football Outsiders
Speaker 1: rankings all years saying, hey, they kind of had the
Speaker 1: Bucks overrated all year. Maybe not, so let's comparing shots
Speaker 1: of sly improved over the last two weeks too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's give him a shout off the top. This is
Speaker 1: typically on Monday we do guessing lines. Were still branded
Speaker 1: as guessing lines, but we will talk about everything that
Speaker 1: happened this past weekend and we will talk about the
Speaker 1: two championship games moving forward with of course my book
Speaker 1: at the star of the show. He runs the South
Speaker 1: Point Sports Book. Here, it's Chrissie Andrews. Good morning to Chrissie.
Speaker 1: How you doing all? We're doing pretty good. Let's survived
Speaker 1: the weekend? Okay, so yeah, we're doing from a book's perspective.
Speaker 1: Let's get that out of the way and let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's get your intro for this is Guessing Lines with
Speaker 1: Chrissy Andrews. The numbers game. There it is, there's the animation. Um,
Speaker 1: how did you do? From a books perspective? Saturday was
Speaker 1: a great day and everything fell perfectly for us yesterday.
Speaker 1: You know, we had a lot of stuff running. Um,
Speaker 1: you know we uh they founded us on the Browns
Speaker 1: pretty good just before post we want to closing name eight. Um,
Speaker 1: So that game wasn't terrible, It wasn't good, it turning,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't terrible. That s game had some
Speaker 1: potential to be terrible because a lot of it was
Speaker 1: running through New Orleans. Um, you know, I didn't want
Speaker 1: to mess around with the two and a half three.
Speaker 1: So once they took the three off, I went to
Speaker 1: two and a half, kept it there. I got rid
Speaker 1: of a lot of it on the money line. But
Speaker 1: so we needed Tampa Bay pretty good, and we needed
Speaker 1: Under really good. And you know we snuck through with that.
Speaker 1: So so it saved us. But Sunday was no more
Speaker 1: than a break even, just you know, a very very
Speaker 1: slight winner then the basketball kind of guy us yesterday
Speaker 1: with football wise, Uh, just a break even yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was solid on both early games, not so
Speaker 1: solid on both late games. Uh, we'll get into it.
Speaker 1: Let's just do it. Let's do it in chronological order,
Speaker 1: as we normally do in terms of what's coming up
Speaker 1: for championship. Weekend, and we'll go back and review everything
Speaker 1: from yesterday in the process. So, what's the first of
Speaker 1: the two championship games on Sunday? The Tampa Green Bay
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay at Green Bay, the Bay of Pigs. Um, alright,
Speaker 1: Buccaneers do it. That's the game most recent or most
Speaker 1: uh clear in our minds since it was the last
Speaker 1: one yesterday. The Buccaneers beat the Saints thirty to twenty. Really,
Speaker 1: the entire story of this game is the turnovers. Right,
Speaker 1: There's not really much else to say for Saints turnovers,
Speaker 1: none for the Bucks. Uh. And if you go through them,
Speaker 1: two of those, you know, two of the Bucks touchdowns
Speaker 1: uh directly off well really twenty one points directly off
Speaker 1: the turnovers. The first of wish the Saints led six
Speaker 1: to three. Breeze trying to flee pressure, he underthrows Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas intercepted by Sean Murphy, bunding thirty six yards along
Speaker 1: the sideline to the Saints three. And then Brady Hits
Speaker 1: Evans play later to put the Bucks up ten to six. Then, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Breeze in the and the Saints go up
Speaker 1: on a tray kawon Smith catch. They go up twenty
Speaker 1: to thirteen. New Orleans appeared primed, you know, to build
Speaker 1: on the lead. They had the ball back up seven.
Speaker 1: Breeze finds Jared Cook. This one was not a Breeze pick,
Speaker 1: but this is a Jared Cook fumble across the fifty
Speaker 1: buck safe dance on Winfield strips him from behind. White
Speaker 1: snags the loose ball. Devin White does returns to eighteen
Speaker 1: yards in New Orleans. Forty five plays later, it's Brady
Speaker 1: to four net over the middle for a six yards
Speaker 1: score that tied it up. Then Devon White snags the
Speaker 1: second of breeze three interceptions. UH was a pass intended
Speaker 1: for Alvin Kamara gave the Bucks the ball at the
Speaker 1: New Orleans twenty, setting up Tampa Bay's final touchdown, and
Speaker 1: then the last one Brady drove by the way. Brady
Speaker 1: drove to the Bucks one on that one from where
Speaker 1: he scored himself with one with four fifty seven left
Speaker 1: to virtually ensure his fourteenth trip. It's Gill, Alexander and
Speaker 1: Chris Andrews. This is guessing lines on a numbers game
Speaker 1: at Vista, the sports betting network. UH that virtually ensured
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's fourteen trip. To a conference championship game on
Speaker 1: that last uh, capitalizing off the last pick his first
Speaker 1: in the NFC. Um and then or that was the yeah.
Speaker 1: And then Brady, by the way, if he wins this game,
Speaker 1: he'll try to advance to his tenth Super Bowl. Good lord,
Speaker 1: fourteen conference championship. If he wins that his tenth Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: What are we talking about here? Amazing? Good Lord? By
Speaker 1: the way, after his third interception on tip pass late
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of the Bucks were able to
Speaker 1: close out the game. So it was you know, it
Speaker 1: was the two picks. His first two picks led directly
Speaker 1: to such downs and the Jared Cook fumble led to
Speaker 1: a third and in the last pick sealed the deal.
Speaker 1: Brady ends up. Brady came into the game and eighteen
Speaker 1: passing yards in his last four games, twelve touchdowns, one pick,
Speaker 1: and in this one he was eighteen of thirty three
Speaker 1: for one two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked once,
Speaker 1: he was not intercepted, largely avoided pressure, took only one sack.
Speaker 1: As I said, plus four and turnovers is really all
Speaker 1: you need to know. And um, you know, look, then
Speaker 1: there's that we can go to the New Orleans side momentarily,
Speaker 1: but with Green Bay they beat the Rams thirty two
Speaker 1: to eighteen. Saturday morning. They played without Cooper Cup and
Speaker 1: as soon as that information came out, the Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: wasn't playing. That went from six and a half to seven.
Speaker 1: Did you do the same here, Christy? Oh yeah, yeah, same?
Speaker 1: And I said it all week, you know that I
Speaker 1: didn't believe what the coaches were telling us. The Coup
Speaker 1: will be fine. Donald was fine, Donald was fine. I
Speaker 1: didn't believe. And it came to fruition. Cup missed the
Speaker 1: game and Donald was on a pitch count and that
Speaker 1: was a huge, huge, huge kid to the game. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know Rogers uh was playing in a in
Speaker 1: a conference championship game yesterday at home for the first times.
Speaker 1: Uh first time sinstaking over his Green Based starting quarterback
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. He reached the championship game for
Speaker 1: the fourth time in seven seasons, trying to get to
Speaker 1: their first Super Bowl in a decade. Uh yeah, first
Speaker 1: Super Bowl birth in a decade. They'll be their first
Speaker 1: NFC title contest, as it turns out at Lambo since
Speaker 1: the two thousand seven season, Rodgers was a backup too
Speaker 1: far there they lost that game. That was the Tom
Speaker 1: Coughlan my face is falling off game where the Giants
Speaker 1: beat him by a field coal. If you recall um
Speaker 1: there were only how many fans were there there was
Speaker 1: There was only eight thousand, four hundred fifty six fans.
Speaker 1: Rogers said it felt like there were fifty thousand. Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones said it felt like eighty thousand. Alan Wizard said
Speaker 1: it felt like ninety thousand. Honestly didn't allow any sacks.
Speaker 1: The Packers didn't despite being without All Pro left tackle
Speaker 1: David Baktiari. They cord on their first five drives of
Speaker 1: the games. The Packers did three touchdowns, two field goals.
Speaker 1: It was the thirteenth game this season with thirty plus points,
Speaker 1: most in the NFL, eleventh game this season without a turnover.
Speaker 1: Rogers twenty three or thirty six for two ninety six,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, not picks, not sacked, and they just filled
Speaker 1: up the statue right. Jones fourteen and ninety nine for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Lazard for ninety six touchdown, Adams nine of
Speaker 1: sixty six falling just below his prop and a touchdown
Speaker 1: eight of twelve on third down four eight four total
Speaker 1: yards one eight rushing and we can talk about the
Speaker 1: Rams because they were depleted. Naron Donald was just not
Speaker 1: not himself, was not healthy. Clearly in the end, I
Speaker 1: thought this was going to be green Bay talking about
Speaker 1: green Bay Tampa Bay. Now, after those outcomes, I thought
Speaker 1: green Bay would be a three and a half point favorite,
Speaker 1: and that's not what it ended up being, is it. Well,
Speaker 1: we opened four, which I really thought was a good number,
Speaker 1: but they took it off because we'd three and a
Speaker 1: half now with action, well with you know, playing money
Speaker 1: came in last night on Tampa. So we're three and
Speaker 1: a half legitimately because of action. Oh part Pardon me,
Speaker 1: I got that wrong. So I was wrong on both
Speaker 1: of these. And let me just say for those who
Speaker 1: are like, hey, you're not really guessing, No, No. I
Speaker 1: thought about what the lines would be yesterday and obviously
Speaker 1: found out what the lines as this is the one.
Speaker 1: I thought green Bay would be three point favorites. Pardon me,
Speaker 1: I was low on this. I said green Bay minus three. Here.
Speaker 1: It's the the second game where I thought it would
Speaker 1: be three and a half. Um, but we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't think there should be a line at
Speaker 1: all in the second game, and I know you have
Speaker 1: thoughts on that, but I thought green Bay minus three here,
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm low on this. You're at three and
Speaker 1: a half now, yeah, we are. But like I said,
Speaker 1: I thought four was a good opening number. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I have my reasons. I guess you know, the market
Speaker 1: eminitely disagreed with me. But I think right now, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean right now, I think that there
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a home field advantage, particularly
Speaker 1: for a Florida team going up to Green Bay in January. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Rogers playing probably the best football
Speaker 1: is of his career, which is, you know, startling to
Speaker 1: say at his age when the coaching has an awful
Speaker 1: lot to do with it. Um, you know it's not
Speaker 1: the not Brady, but I don't. I don't think right
Speaker 1: now he's as good as Rogers. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think the coaching, you know, I like Bruce Arians,
Speaker 1: but I like Matt Lafloor a lot better. So I
Speaker 1: think there's a there's a couple of edges for green Bay,
Speaker 1: and uh, I think it deserved to be more than
Speaker 1: the three. I thought. I thought four was a good
Speaker 1: opening number, and that's when I opened it going back
Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay in New Orleans. Yesterday. New Orleans was
Speaker 1: without Taysom Hill, they were without Lettavius Murray. Then Deante Harris,
Speaker 1: who had two great great punt returns early right returned
Speaker 1: the first one fifty four yards set up at field
Speaker 1: well and then the second one called back because of
Speaker 1: a block in the back, but he leaves with a
Speaker 1: neck injury in the first half as well. Uh Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston with the only big play for the Saints early
Speaker 1: in this game to tray Kawan Smith for fifty six
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown, the exact Saint play the Bears
Speaker 1: ran against the Saints the previous week. The Saints pulled
Speaker 1: it against the Bucks, and it was just you really
Speaker 1: did wonder where the Saints better off. Like, as this
Speaker 1: game went on, you were like, maybe let's just see
Speaker 1: what Jamis can do here, because because Drew Brees and
Speaker 1: we've said this about him all year long, and and
Speaker 1: actually we said this about him last year, he can't
Speaker 1: throw the ball down field, and for much of that
Speaker 1: we then quickly said, oh, we're acting like Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: is that terrible? Okay, yes, he can't throw the ball downfield.
Speaker 1: He's still awesome. I don't know. Was he awesome yesterday?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. Nineteen of thirty four for
Speaker 1: one thirty four touchdown, three picks, no sacks. All the
Speaker 1: reports are is that he is going to retire. He
Speaker 1: has not confirmed this quite yet, as I'm as, I'm uh,
Speaker 1: you know, looking across he has not confirmed in himself.
Speaker 1: But that is it appears the writing is on the
Speaker 1: wall for that. That seems to be the right move,
Speaker 1: would you not say so? Yeah? An all week? You know,
Speaker 1: I was on a couple of different shows, and I
Speaker 1: probably said on your show last week, I I'm not
Speaker 1: the biggest breeze guy, uh and at his best, And
Speaker 1: I don't think right now he's not at his best.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a zip on the fastball, he can't
Speaker 1: really throw the ball long. Um, you know, I think
Speaker 1: his team kind of carried him. And I saw somebody
Speaker 1: else made the comment that, you know, Drew Brees reminds
Speaker 1: me of Peyton Manning, which I thought was a pretty
Speaker 1: apt comparison. Um, if you remember that that that team
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, but it was strictly defense and
Speaker 1: Peyton was really nothing more than, uh, you know, a
Speaker 1: game manager. In that, but you know they didn't quite
Speaker 1: have the talent to pull it off. But you know,
Speaker 1: the turnovers where the key of the game. Three of
Speaker 1: them were interceptions, and I know you could always kind
Speaker 1: of make some excuses, which you can for breeding a
Speaker 1: lot of tip balls and that sort of thing, but
Speaker 1: they still happen. And uh, you know, I think, certainly
Speaker 1: the writes on the law he comes back, I think
Speaker 1: it would be a big mistake for him. And you know,
Speaker 1: he has a great legacy. He does. Just because I'm
Speaker 1: not the biggest breeze guy doesn't mean that much. He's
Speaker 1: still going to go into the Hall of Fame first
Speaker 1: day he's eligible. So you know, I think it would
Speaker 1: certainly be a tarnishing his image if he were to
Speaker 1: come back right now. Yeah, no, Ship, You're right, No
Speaker 1: shame in forty two years old, just turned forty two.
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer immediately, what he's eligible. As you said, um,
Speaker 1: I had this Green Bay minus three. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a tick above that in many ways. You know, Look
Speaker 1: as we crescendo because we all want to talk about
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Cleveland game, because that's that's got the
Speaker 1: most meat on the bone. But the Tampa Bay New
Speaker 1: Orleans games simply came down to the turnovers period. It's
Speaker 1: that simple. The Packers Rams game, to me, simply just
Speaker 1: came down to the fact that Aaron Donald was not
Speaker 1: full strength. One tackle, no sacks, no quarterback hits one
Speaker 1: week after rib injury knocked him out of the window
Speaker 1: over Seattle last week which they won thirty twenty, but
Speaker 1: he clearly wasn't himself, had just one assist. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, the Rams defense zero sacks, zero takeaways.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned fo eighty four total yards allowed. Golf
Speaker 1: was one seventy four or one touchdown note picks. He
Speaker 1: was stacked four times. He ends up two and three
Speaker 1: now straight up in the playoffs. Jared Golf does has
Speaker 1: never thrown multiple touchdowns in the playoff game. The Rams,
Speaker 1: of these of these eight teams headed into the UH
Speaker 1: Divisional round, was the most flawed. I think of the
Speaker 1: teams UH and the Packers to me, I have them
Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl. I have them beating the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: From before the playoffs started and when we did brackets
Speaker 1: on primetime Action, I think the Packers are the team
Speaker 1: to beat and Aaron Rodgers just looks so effortless, smiling
Speaker 1: as the other team is trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to combat him. So, um yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's the Packers year. I think they
Speaker 1: had the weakest opponent of the bunch. They got it done.
Speaker 1: Wasn't wasn't a blowout in the end, right, the Rams
Speaker 1: hung around, But in the end, I don't think they
Speaker 1: had it on defense with Aaron Donald being diminished. No,
Speaker 1: I mean it just shows you what, you know, key
Speaker 1: players do make a big difference. And you know, they
Speaker 1: lost their best offensive player, the best defensive player, and
Speaker 1: I know we we knocked off a lot of people,
Speaker 1: knocked off quite a bit. I thought he played a
Speaker 1: really good game, you know, I thought, you know, he
Speaker 1: did as much as he could to keep that team
Speaker 1: in the game. And I think he deserves some credit
Speaker 1: for it. But going on, you know Rogers right now,
Speaker 1: I mean Rodgers, you know, he's a man, and uh
Speaker 1: you know, they talked about, you know, mid season it
Speaker 1: looked like there's gonna be between Rogers and my Homes
Speaker 1: for m v P. Then you know, Rogers has clearly
Speaker 1: passed him. I think he's playing just terrific ball, and uh, well,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win the Super Bowl and then
Speaker 1: includes winning and covering this game against Camp. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: I lean here in Green Bay. I don't you know,
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. We have this tweet here. This is from
Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell. Um, again it really did come to It's
Speaker 1: just look, if you had a box score, if you
Speaker 1: had access to the box score, all you would have
Speaker 1: to do in the NFL games is go to the
Speaker 1: turnover column and you can pretty much figure the game
Speaker 1: win NBA, it's really three point shooting percentage. But here's
Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell. The Bucks went for it on fourth and
Speaker 1: one once during this game. Game they've you know, subsequently
Speaker 1: went six yards down the field fourth and one in
Speaker 1: their own territory. Subsequently went six yards down the field
Speaker 1: and scored. Another time was fourth and two, they kicked
Speaker 1: the field goal. Then on a fourth than one that
Speaker 1: you know, they punt. So Bruce Arians, who again, I'm
Speaker 1: worried he's trying to detonate himself the way he's trapped
Speaker 1: on like that. Uh, it's just his His decision making
Speaker 1: or that team's decision making is all over the board.
Speaker 1: Brady Brady, doesn't you know. Look, Brady Can is great
Speaker 1: at taking what the defense gives him, does throw the
Speaker 1: ball downfield unlike Drew Brees give him that much. But
Speaker 1: what Mike Evans had one? Did he have one catch
Speaker 1: ultimately in this game and they still ended up winning
Speaker 1: and it was all turnovers. So I don't know how
Speaker 1: much you can you can read into this, by the way,
Speaker 1: And when I asked Aaron Shots, now I'm just flipping
Speaker 1: all over place. But when I asked Aaron Shots before
Speaker 1: the season started about his football preview, what was the
Speaker 1: most amazing stat was the most was the thing that
Speaker 1: even you were shocked by when you did it before
Speaker 1: the season. And he said to me, he goes, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good question that you ask um.
Speaker 1: By the way, Mike Evans, yes, with just that one
Speaker 1: catch for three yards in the touchdown, And he said
Speaker 1: it was the fact that in the Saints last three
Speaker 1: off three playoff losses headed into this season, Michael Thomas
Speaker 1: had exactly three total third down catches in the saints
Speaker 1: previous three playoff losses, which was just an unbelievable stat
Speaker 1: and then yesterday he has zero catches. In the end,
Speaker 1: he was targeted four times, he ends up with zero
Speaker 1: catches and it's just it's incredible. It's it's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1: So what was already the most amazing stat to him
Speaker 1: just goes on steroids yesterday without even a single catch,
Speaker 1: let alone not a catch on third down. And that's
Speaker 1: the Saints in the end. Do you do you you know,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton has had these playoff disasters, uh, if we
Speaker 1: can use that word, but these playoff losses now more
Speaker 1: than once, you feel the same about him as you
Speaker 1: have all year. No, um, you know, but I do think,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever, you know, however successful we see Breese,
Speaker 1: I think Sean Payton had a lot to do with that,
Speaker 1: she says, But you know, I mean football is just
Speaker 1: such a funny game, you know, it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: not like basketball, where like one turnover could mean so much.
Speaker 1: And we'll get to that with the Bills game, I
Speaker 1: guess when we talked about that one. But I mean,
Speaker 1: one turnover in basketball might mean you know, you know,
Speaker 1: the most, it's gonna mean six points you make it
Speaker 1: three or the other team makes it three. Um, but
Speaker 1: here it's just gonna be so dramatic, and it seems
Speaker 1: like he's had some bad luck in a couple of situations,
Speaker 1: you know, the past interference play, the long word digs
Speaker 1: went all the way on, you know, seemingly, you know,
Speaker 1: good player would have put the vikings into a field
Speaker 1: goal position. Um. And then you know he turns around
Speaker 1: and gotten missed the tackle and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: a six points. Um. So he I think he's been
Speaker 1: he's gotten some bad luck. So but when you keep
Speaker 1: losing those games, you know, and I think you made
Speaker 1: some questionable decisions with Paysom Hill Um, you know. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, listen, it's always easy from
Speaker 1: here to say what a coach. And I always hate
Speaker 1: the Internet Twitter. Every coach is an idiot, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't like to go there. You know,
Speaker 1: that's just what everybody does. But you know, not, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit, but not too much. I think
Speaker 1: he pulled a lot out of Breeze his whole career,
Speaker 1: including this year. He got as much as he could
Speaker 1: out of him. I just think that that it just
Speaker 1: wasn't there for during this year. Yeah. Um, those in
Speaker 1: many ways, those were the two of those two games
Speaker 1: were the least interesting of the four, uh this past weekend,
Speaker 1: And those I mean Green Bay I had going away
Speaker 1: and in the case of the States, they just couldn't
Speaker 1: get it there. They could not get it there even
Speaker 1: in uh in teasers and again it comes just down
Speaker 1: comes down to the turnovers. And that's all she wrote.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about, of course, the a f C Championship
Speaker 1: here momentarily. Just want to talk about some coaching moves
Speaker 1: that have happened there as we go to the break.
Speaker 1: In the case of the Rams, Brandon Staley, their defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: hired by the Los Angeles Chargers to be their head coach,
Speaker 1: which is a curious move because curious in the sense
Speaker 1: that the reports we were getting were that the Chargers
Speaker 1: were going to hire Tom to LESCo and Brian Dayball,
Speaker 1: the Bills offensive coordinator, went to high school together, played
Speaker 1: high school football together. Um, and to let's go tried
Speaker 1: to downplay that when people were drumming up that report, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is their first choice, and in the end, they
Speaker 1: didn't wait for the Bills at all to to finish
Speaker 1: their playoff run. They hired Brandon Staley immediately. But I
Speaker 1: would just say this, if you have Aaron Donald and
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and before that, Von Miller in Denver. Do
Speaker 1: we know if you're a great coach or not? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we know that, but they couldn't wait
Speaker 1: to hire him. So that's interesting. I have the Chargers,
Speaker 1: and the Charger has ever been accused of being a
Speaker 1: well run organization? I don't know, No, I mean it's interesting.
Speaker 1: We'll get to all the other because if there's some
Speaker 1: US coaches coaching hires that are that are going around,
Speaker 1: that's not just the first And I don't even know
Speaker 1: if people think that that one's curious. Um, but again,
Speaker 1: what do we know? How how how good is he?
Speaker 1: If you have all the best talent in the world. Um,
Speaker 1: only time will tell. We'll come back. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about the a f C Championship, of course, and
Speaker 1: more of these coaching moves. The Chiefs and the Browns
Speaker 1: the worst rule in football will debate that as well,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk. Here's Adam Schefter's tweet about uh well.
Speaker 1: This was from a couple of days ago. Brian day
Speaker 1: Ball went to save France's high school and Buffalo with
Speaker 1: Chargers GM Tom to LESCo. They played on the same
Speaker 1: high school football team, with day Ball two grades behind
Speaker 1: to let's go Dave Ball was a safety to let's
Speaker 1: go wide receiver in corner. Now they could be teammates again. Nope,
Speaker 1: they're going with Brandon Staley of the Rams, the Rams
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. And then there's the Then there's the Lions.
Speaker 1: In case you missed this this morning, the Lions are
Speaker 1: set to hire Saints assistant Dan Campbell as their next
Speaker 1: head coach, which kind of came out of nowhere now
Speaker 1: that New Orleans has been eliminated, Schefter says, the Lines
Speaker 1: are expected to hire Saints assistant head coach tight end
Speaker 1: coach Dan Campbell as their next head coach. For sources,
Speaker 1: the two sides still need to work out a deal,
Speaker 1: but it's not considered an obstacle in Campbell will be
Speaker 1: the lions next head coach. The Lion screw it up again,
Speaker 1: Well I don't know, we'll see, but it is a
Speaker 1: still no Joe Brady, you know, and Eric be enemy
Speaker 1: who again I guess has an interview problem three three
Speaker 1: years now hasn't gotten a head coaching job. We get
Speaker 1: to be enemy and read obviously coming up. And then
Speaker 1: there's the big other you know, personnel move this weekend,
Speaker 1: which was the uh, personnel move, but personnel speculation about
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson. From Schefter, there's a growing sense from people
Speaker 1: in and around the Texans organization that Deshaun Watson has
Speaker 1: played his last night for the team. It's early in
Speaker 1: the off season, there's a lot of time left, but
Speaker 1: Watson's feelings cannot and should not be underestimated. Christie, what
Speaker 1: about that one. I'm hoping I can see him in
Speaker 1: a Steeler you before, is what I'm hoping. But I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be a rock Houston. But I
Speaker 1: listened the kids. He played great. No, it reminds me
Speaker 1: of your a base ball guy. I think you would
Speaker 1: appreciate this. Remember the year Steve Carlton had twenty eight
Speaker 1: wins for the Phillies and they won like games or
Speaker 1: something like that, and uh, you know, you know that's
Speaker 1: what I compare Watson too. He had a great, great
Speaker 1: season and the U and Houston won four games, you know,
Speaker 1: So I think those two are comparable. But I think Watson,
Speaker 1: he lands on the right teams, He's going to be
Speaker 1: a guy that we're gonna hear him for years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you got it right too. I think it
Speaker 1: was twenty eight wins in in a fifty seven wins
Speaker 1: season for lefty l We'll check to make sure that's
Speaker 1: exactly what it was. Um, The thing is like, what
Speaker 1: would you So the Dolphins makes the most sense because
Speaker 1: they would be able to give up to if they
Speaker 1: were interested in making that deal, and the Texans move
Speaker 1: on a quarterback back, so TA and the third pick
Speaker 1: in the draft. Because I was speculating about this with
Speaker 1: my Washington football fan friends yesterday and in the end
Speaker 1: we were just like, we don't have enough to give
Speaker 1: them for that, right, even if it was like Chase
Speaker 1: Young in Washington's first round pick, that's not as good
Speaker 1: of a deal for Houston as it would be to
Speaker 1: Ah and the third pick in the draft probably, and
Speaker 1: then the Jets might be the most well positioned. But
Speaker 1: do you really want Sam Donald back? Like, would you
Speaker 1: accept that deal? I don't know. Well, I think I
Speaker 1: think the jury's out on Sam Donald. You know, I
Speaker 1: was not big on him coming out of college because
Speaker 1: I said he he doesn't protect the ball well enough,
Speaker 1: whether it's through interceptions or fumbles. That's carried on into
Speaker 1: his pro career. But I think that were he to
Speaker 1: get good coaching. I think the talents there, I mean,
Speaker 1: can he put it all together? I mean, so far
Speaker 1: it looks like the answers no, But there's do you
Speaker 1: put him with the right coach? And I don't know
Speaker 1: what the Jets are gonna do as far as like,
Speaker 1: you know, their whole staff and all that, but you know,
Speaker 1: get the right coach for the right quarterback and you know, Donald,
Speaker 1: I think would be a situation where I'm not heard
Speaker 1: be bailing on him quite yet. Um. You know, Adam
Speaker 1: Gaze certainly did not get the best out of this kid,
Speaker 1: you know, so I don't know he has talent, but
Speaker 1: there there's still some deep flaws in his game that
Speaker 1: I think are correctable. Um, but it has to be
Speaker 1: correctable from the right guy. Nineteen seventy two Philadelphia Phillies
Speaker 1: lefty Steve Carlton twenty seven wins in a different era
Speaker 1: when starting pitchers went that far all the time to
Speaker 1: get wins. Twenty seven wins the Phillies fifty nine and
Speaker 1: sixty seven, So twenty seven out of fifty nine for
Speaker 1: Steve Carlton, whose personal catcher was Tim McCarver um. Nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy to Philadelphia Phillies. Okay, we'll come back. We'll do
Speaker 1: the a f C Championship. Obviously between the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: the Bills. My guests on that one was three and
Speaker 1: a half if there was going to be a line,
Speaker 1: and assumed it was Patrick Mahomes, and I see that
Speaker 1: it turned out to be three, and I was the opposite.
Speaker 1: On the other one, I had three h on the
Speaker 1: Packers that end up being higher than that. But I
Speaker 1: want to ask Christie about why a line was posted
Speaker 1: for this at all between the Chiefs and the Bills
Speaker 1: without knowing if Patrick Mahomes is going to be available.
Speaker 1: All the speculation now is that he will be. But
Speaker 1: are we all doctors? We all get that now. Um,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. And of course the game itself
Speaker 1: coming back on a numbers game at Visa, these sports
Speaker 1: betting netwhere just start right off the top. Because I
Speaker 1: got in debate with my with my buddy about this
Speaker 1: right after the Chiefs game, obviously knowing that Mahomes got
Speaker 1: concussed and knocked out of the game yesterday in the
Speaker 1: third quarter for the duration for the balance of that game,
Speaker 1: and I openly said, I was like, why would anybody
Speaker 1: put up a line at this point, not even knowing
Speaker 1: what his status is. He goes, oh, he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play. So that's why people are putting him up.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, well that's great that you think that,
Speaker 1: But what if he doesn't. I know, we're all doctors
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, but what if he doesn't. How
Speaker 1: did you approach it? Well? I saw almost everybody put
Speaker 1: it up, and there was you know, our friends at
Speaker 1: the circuit they opened Buffalo at two and a half
Speaker 1: point favorite I guess there as something was my homes
Speaker 1: will be out. I saw people with you know, all
Speaker 1: over the place. But you know, I want I talked
Speaker 1: to Michael Vaughan last night and he said, don't worry.
Speaker 1: If you can. He said, if you got to wait
Speaker 1: an extra day, just wait. So well, you know, so
Speaker 1: we we waited a long time, and as I was looking,
Speaker 1: there was two two places didn't have it up. Me
Speaker 1: and bet Chris. You know, they they huge money, so
Speaker 1: they weren't going to mess around with this. Because now
Speaker 1: once everybody had it up, and everybody had it at three,
Speaker 1: I went ahead and put it up. But I, you know,
Speaker 1: have orders into my staff don't take anything major until
Speaker 1: we hear something about about my homes. Now, the thing
Speaker 1: about guys saying, well, he's gonna play, you know, there's
Speaker 1: like a very specific protocol that that he has to pass.
Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, your ankle hurts and you
Speaker 1: tell your coach I'm good to go, you know that,
Speaker 1: And this doesn't work that way anymore with concussions, and
Speaker 1: maybe did ten twenty years ago, but it doesn't do
Speaker 1: that anymore. So he has to pass it um and
Speaker 1: we'll find out pretty quickly, you know. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I also saw last night he was tweeting, and you know,
Speaker 1: I heard reports that he's up, he's walking around. He
Speaker 1: seems to be okay. So it seems to be okay.
Speaker 1: That's one thing, you know. And like I said, once
Speaker 1: everybody had it up. I put it up. But I
Speaker 1: really think a lot of guys they're rushing to put
Speaker 1: things up anymore. In this era of social media. You
Speaker 1: want to get on TV, you want to get on Twitter.
Speaker 1: You were the first, you were, Yah. They don't give
Speaker 1: away any prizes for being first. You know, we're here
Speaker 1: to make money, and uh, you know, I think that
Speaker 1: people were you know, and like I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna tell anybody how to run their business. I'm saying
Speaker 1: how I'm run mine. And we just wanted to wait
Speaker 1: and see get something a little more conclusive. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: with a player that's gonna be that key to a game,
Speaker 1: and even you know you talked about Cooper cup and
Speaker 1: and Arnold being key to to that game, you know,
Speaker 1: or Donald I keeping them on Donald being key to
Speaker 1: the Rams success against the Packing. Well here's a guy
Speaker 1: you know, you know making can influence the number and
Speaker 1: off awful lot. So I think it would have been
Speaker 1: prudent to wait. But once everybody settled in at three,
Speaker 1: I went ahead and put it up myself. So Buffalo wins.
Speaker 1: On Saturday. They beat Baltimore, uh, seventeen to three. And
Speaker 1: as simple as it was to look back on the
Speaker 1: Saints and the Bucks and just look at the turnovers,
Speaker 1: I mean, this was the one big turnover and it
Speaker 1: killed Baltimore teasers like those that I had. It was
Speaker 1: just a brutal outcome. But Buffalo with its first DNFC
Speaker 1: Championship game appearance in twenty seven years, first time since
Speaker 1: n Congratulations to the Bills fans. Uh they've now won
Speaker 1: eight straight games. Tarn Johnson's pick six of Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 1: pass with forty one seconds remaining in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: helping to secure the seventeen to three win his return match,
Speaker 1: the longest in NFL history. UH the Bills had limited
Speaker 1: the Ravens offense to a hundred fifty yards on thirty
Speaker 1: there the rushing offense to a hundred fifty yards on
Speaker 1: thirty two carries, but Lamar Jackson, last season's NFL m
Speaker 1: v P stack three times, didn't return after sustaining a
Speaker 1: concussion following the final play of the third quarter, two
Speaker 1: plays after Johnson scored on the pick six. But it's
Speaker 1: ten to three, the Ravens are going in. At the
Speaker 1: least you have a chip shot justin Tucker field goal
Speaker 1: to make it tend to six instead a pick six.
Speaker 1: By the way, I couldn't believe Tarren Johnson actually decided
Speaker 1: to try the runback, and UH trade Davius White deserves
Speaker 1: all the credit on that runback for getting in front
Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson. That was really the key to that um.
Speaker 1: But that was the that's the key play of it all.
Speaker 1: And UH Tyler Huntley tried a few times subsequent to
Speaker 1: that to get the ball in the end zone actually
Speaker 1: had a first and at the nine, and J. K.
Speaker 1: Dobbins dropped what looked like a shore touchdown in that sequence,
Speaker 1: so Ravens teasers couldn't get home. Even with that, it
Speaker 1: just wasn't meant to be. And the Bills, though in
Speaker 1: the end, OUT possessed thirty five minutes, thirty three seconds,
Speaker 1: seven OUT gained three twenty one fifty to thirty two rushing.
Speaker 1: Uh that's it, though, that one play that really, uh
Speaker 1: was everything. By the way, here's Nick Backai, lifelong Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills fan who joining us later this week on the
Speaker 1: tip the Tarren Johnson pick six. Here's his tweet. I
Speaker 1: just soiled myself. There you go. It's the best. Uh.
Speaker 1: So he's very pumped, um, but I mean, am I
Speaker 1: you know, I hate to simplify it to one play,
Speaker 1: but that was really that that determined everything in the end.
Speaker 1: But we were just talking about it, you know before,
Speaker 1: you know, one turnover what you mean in basketball, like
Speaker 1: the most it means a six pot that have who
Speaker 1: wondered something? But here this is just such a huge play.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're going in for the game, tiing touchdown
Speaker 1: and Buffalo at the time, their defense was kind of wobbly,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, and uh, you know, it seemed
Speaker 1: like forvergone conclusion that I thought that they were definitely
Speaker 1: gonna get the touchdown themselves and tie the game up,
Speaker 1: and then this play just completely turned the game around.
Speaker 1: But still I was impressed with Buffalo, you know, after that,
Speaker 1: you know, they did you know, they only game three points,
Speaker 1: you know, to a pretty dynamic offense, and I know
Speaker 1: they had to turn over and all that, but they
Speaker 1: I thought they did control the game, you know, for
Speaker 1: the most part. You know, the Ravens had a chance
Speaker 1: to score their first touchdown with seconds to play in
Speaker 1: the third quarter, so I think that was still a
Speaker 1: pretty good feat for the Buffalo defense. Josh Allen wasn't great,
Speaker 1: but he was pretty good, and uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: think they controlled the ball. Well it's another coaching marvel
Speaker 1: what they've done at Buffalo too. So you know, this
Speaker 1: is on those games where you know, I mean, we
Speaker 1: haven't gotten to Kansas City yet, but we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: You know. Anyway, I think Buffalo is a very very
Speaker 1: live game right now, very love We are about to
Speaker 1: get to Kansas City and everything that happened there next.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen thirty seven for two or six, one touchdown
Speaker 1: note picks I was sacked twice. The wins were We're
Speaker 1: just absolutely swirling. The goalposts themselves were moving. Both kickers,
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker unbelievably and Tyler Bass both missed two field
Speaker 1: goals in this game. Tucker jinked both of his UH.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, like the play that ultimately
Speaker 1: got Lamar Jackson hurt though, the snap that went over
Speaker 1: his head. The Ravens center Patrick McCarry was was hiking
Speaker 1: those balls like a howitzer, and you could almost predict
Speaker 1: that that was gonna happen at some point. Kept doing
Speaker 1: it during the game and that's how it ended up.
Speaker 1: You couldn't predict the injury, but you could predict a
Speaker 1: horrible snap over his head, and that's what happened. We'll
Speaker 1: get to the Chiefs next. Right here on a numbers
Speaker 1: game at Visa these Sports Betting Network UM reviewing everything
Speaker 1: that happened yesterday, uh, looking ahead to Championship weekend. Jason,
Speaker 1: you were saying about the wind, when we were talking
Speaker 1: about the weather all week, we were like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, eight miles per hour whatever or not actually
Speaker 1: not eight but like thirteen something like that. Nothing nothing
Speaker 1: in the danger range. And then al Michael said what
Speaker 1: at the top, Well, they had mentioned that the wind
Speaker 1: velocity was like eight miles an hour, ten miles an
Speaker 1: hour number that was widely reported. And then they showed
Speaker 1: the actual goal post, the flags go posting. Al Michaels
Speaker 1: said something the effect of, if if the winds eight
Speaker 1: miles an hour, I'm an astronaut, all right. The other
Speaker 1: thing about that game is when Lamar Jackson got concussed,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens twitter handle said he's in concussion protocol.
Speaker 1: It almost went fifteen minutes before they mentioned anything on
Speaker 1: the actual national broadcast with Al Michael's and Chris Collinsworth
Speaker 1: I tweeted about it, and nothing of this on the
Speaker 1: actual broadcast. It took fifteen minutes um, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: slightly odd. What are we doing but to the Chiefs
Speaker 1: because we don't have we not have much time, But
Speaker 1: the Chiefs end up this. This was minus eight. By
Speaker 1: game time, Chiefs were eight point favorites, had been ten
Speaker 1: point favorites all week. They were down to eight by
Speaker 1: game time seventeen thousand fans allowed in the stadium, and
Speaker 1: it turns out that Chad Henny becomes the hero of
Speaker 1: the day and the Chiefs twenty two to seventeen win
Speaker 1: to advance their third straight a f C championship game.
Speaker 1: They had a nineteen to three lead and survived to
Speaker 1: become the first an FC team to host three consecutive
Speaker 1: conference title games. A few key plays. Let's start with
Speaker 1: the first sixteen to three Chrissie late second quarter, Richard
Speaker 1: Higgins trying to stretch over the goal line first half
Speaker 1: spread his six and a half. It's gonna have been
Speaker 1: in uh and the Chiefs Daniel Sorenson arrives to deliver
Speaker 1: the hit, pops the ball out, it goes into the
Speaker 1: end zone for a touchback. The call stood after a
Speaker 1: video review. Now I had the Chief's minus six and
Speaker 1: a half, so this was massive for me. But because
Speaker 1: I can hold two thoughts in my head at the
Speaker 1: same time, I also happen to believe that it's the
Speaker 1: worst orest rule football. I tweeted as such, We're gonna
Speaker 1: put all sides here, I sarcastic and said, is this
Speaker 1: where I tweet the dumbest rule in sports. Now your
Speaker 1: opinion on it is valid as well. I mean your
Speaker 1: tweet here. Before we get your thoughts on this, here's
Speaker 1: Christie's tweet from yesterday about the same play. I know
Speaker 1: that's a terrible rule, but guys have to know that
Speaker 1: first and goal from the one is not the worst
Speaker 1: thing in the world for an offense. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: get a clue. Um And then Todd wishne Of, responding
Speaker 1: to Christie said, I like the rule because it makes
Speaker 1: offensive teams be more careful with reaching the ball out
Speaker 1: near the goal line. In a sport war, offense gets
Speaker 1: all the advantages. This is one small advantage defenses get.
Speaker 1: So I hope they don't change the rule. But I
Speaker 1: see the other side too. Christie. Your thoughts, well, I
Speaker 1: don't like it because I mean, I think it's an
Speaker 1: exciting play for a guy to try to reach over
Speaker 1: and score. I think that's that's a good thing for
Speaker 1: the game. You know, the visuals and all that, uh,
Speaker 1: but you know, the fact of the matter is, like
Speaker 1: I said, there's a minute to play in the game.
Speaker 1: You have a lot of momentum going for you. First
Speaker 1: and goal from the one is a pretty good position
Speaker 1: to be in. There's no reason for you to reach
Speaker 1: over like that. There's no reason for you to reach
Speaker 1: over unless it's fourth and goal or the last play
Speaker 1: of the game, or you know, even maybe the last
Speaker 1: player of the half, and there's no reason to do it.
Speaker 1: But I see guys doing it all the time. And
Speaker 1: will they ever learn, you know what, you'll probably not, probably,
Speaker 1: So I think the change, uh, you know, I'm with
Speaker 1: you that the change they've got to change. It's just
Speaker 1: too egregious to it's too too much. Even give the
Speaker 1: ball back to the offense at the twenty something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, some severe penalty, right, some severe penalty losses
Speaker 1: down get the ball back at a certain yard line.
Speaker 1: But there is no And I don't disagree with anything
Speaker 1: you were trying or saying. Again, we can all hold
Speaker 1: separate thoughts in our heads at the same time. It's
Speaker 1: just that let's say there, let's say teams matriculating the
Speaker 1: ball down the field, and let's say they're at their
Speaker 1: own you know, receiver catches the ball at their own
Speaker 1: thirty at his own thirty seven, and then he reaches,
Speaker 1: he lunges to get to the thirty nine, and the
Speaker 1: ball pops out and goes out of bounds. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: no problem, gets the ball back at the thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Let's say they're at the later in that drive, there
Speaker 1: at their at the you know, the plus forty three
Speaker 1: yard line, and the receiver catches the ball, he tries
Speaker 1: to lungeon get to the forty one and it goes
Speaker 1: out of bounds. But I get the ball back at
Speaker 1: the forty three, right, and you keep doing this. Let's
Speaker 1: say that happens. I'm just trying to be extreme, right,
Speaker 1: But then when they get to the one yard line,
Speaker 1: they try to do the same thing and it goes
Speaker 1: out the back of the end zone. Oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: now you've done too much. Um sorry, other teams ball
Speaker 1: like there's no football logic to it. There's nothing. There's
Speaker 1: nothing that's that says that was what you just did, right,
Speaker 1: there is so egregious we must penalize you with change
Speaker 1: of possession. It makes no sense whatsoever. And so it
Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. And for those
Speaker 1: of us who have the Chiefs first half, that was
Speaker 1: just a phenomenal thing. But then, of course Mahomes gets
Speaker 1: tackled around the head with seven seven left in the
Speaker 1: third quarter and the entire game changes at that point.
Speaker 1: He left crumbly staggered. When he tried to get up,
Speaker 1: he was already hobbled by a foot injury. He stumbled
Speaker 1: as I said, we tried to get up. He was
Speaker 1: in the blue tent um. Andy Reid after the game.
Speaker 1: He's doing great right now, which is real positive. As
Speaker 1: we look at this. He passed all the deals he
Speaker 1: needed to pass, and we'll see where it goes from here.
Speaker 1: I love when football coaches us use the word deals
Speaker 1: so stupid. You know, all the deals, all limb deals. Um. Okay.
Speaker 1: Then the end of the game. Here the Chiefs d
Speaker 1: forces the Browns to punt in the waning minutes with
Speaker 1: four twenty three left in the game. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess they forced him to punt. They decided to punt.
Speaker 1: Then Chad Henny Mahomes, thirty five year old backup. I
Speaker 1: mean this sequence at the end, I just have to like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just go through this. North of the two minute warning.
Speaker 1: It's second down, it's twenty two to seventeen. First of
Speaker 1: all the Browns punting, We'll get into Stefanski because he
Speaker 1: did a whole bunch of bad things, and I love Stefanski,
Speaker 1: but that was not his best day ashday. But second
Speaker 1: second down north of the two a minute warning and
Speaker 1: and the uh, the the excuse me? The who do
Speaker 1: they play again? Oh? Yeah, the the Browns had no
Speaker 1: timeouts left at this point because they had wasted some earlier,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to. But read drops Henny back to
Speaker 1: pass second down at eight at the case forty one,
Speaker 1: and he gets bailed out with a sack. Just run
Speaker 1: the football and take it down to the two minute warning.
Speaker 1: But he wanted to pass the ball, Like if that's
Speaker 1: an incomplete pass and stops the clock, it's a whole
Speaker 1: different discussion what happens at the end of this game.
Speaker 1: But he literally gets bailed out with the sacks of
Speaker 1: the clock keeps running down to the two minute warning.
Speaker 1: That's the first Andy Reid bailout. Third down in fourteen
Speaker 1: at the two minute warning. Hen he drops back to
Speaker 1: pass and I'm like, what are you doing? Just run
Speaker 1: the ball. He gets flushed out of the pocket and
Speaker 1: the hendy mad scramble for thirteen yards to get it
Speaker 1: just shy of the of the down of the yard
Speaker 1: to go over the line to uh to get the
Speaker 1: first down. The line to gain And I'm Andy Reid
Speaker 1: just got bailed out. Andy Reid, Eric b enemy, whoever
Speaker 1: we're blaming this on, just got bailed out of two
Speaker 1: straight plays that have no sense whatsoever. Now the fourth
Speaker 1: and one pass that goes to Tyreek Hill for five
Speaker 1: yards and seals the deal. Okay, we can debate that,
Speaker 1: like you know, reasonable minds can disagree. Here's my tweet
Speaker 1: about it. Andy Reid bailed out twice in a row
Speaker 1: by a sack that keeps clock rolling than a ridiculous
Speaker 1: Henny scramble. Then gambles on fourth and gets lauded for it.
Speaker 1: Bailed out twice though, lunatic hero. All of those things
Speaker 1: to me are true. All those things are true. And
Speaker 1: and in the end, yes, uh ballsy, as we like
Speaker 1: to say, and it worked out by the way they
Speaker 1: on fourth down. I'm just saying, if that was incomplete,
Speaker 1: God help him, you know, I'm just saying. But the
Speaker 1: second and third down play I cannot argue. I cannot
Speaker 1: debate that like that is unbelievable to me. Am I wrong? No?
Speaker 1: But let me throw one more in there, please. The
Speaker 1: play that Mahomes got hurt, he was already hurt, his
Speaker 1: foot was he said, it was his toe, and why
Speaker 1: was he running with that ball? Now, let me tell
Speaker 1: you this, you know, just knowing from some athletes, you know,
Speaker 1: primarily the guy I'm gonna go to is Jack Lambert,
Speaker 1: Like you know, arguably the Pumpets guy that's ever played
Speaker 1: football had to retire because of a toe injury. A
Speaker 1: toe injury. It sounds almost comical to tell you about
Speaker 1: that for for an NFL player, But your toe, I
Speaker 1: mean just think of like how much balance that you
Speaker 1: need and strength coming from your leg comes directly from
Speaker 1: that big toe. I mean, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: it sounds ridiculous. It's not so that he had a
Speaker 1: toe injury and they're running this kid. That's when I thought.
Speaker 1: And I've been a big Andy Reid supporter and I
Speaker 1: still am. But though you know that, that to me
Speaker 1: was the first thing, like, what the hell is he
Speaker 1: doing running this guy? And I don't know it was
Speaker 1: him or be enemy, I really don't know, But that
Speaker 1: was not that was not proper to call that at
Speaker 1: that point in the game, not at all, not at all,
Speaker 1: by the way I giggled, because to injury to Jack
Speaker 1: Lambert specifically was the funny thing to me. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's like I was saying about Brandon Staley getting
Speaker 1: hired by the Chargers earlier. Brandon Staley may end up
Speaker 1: being the greatest coach he's ever lived. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But he had Aaron Donald and he had Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: before they had Vaughan Miller. So I don't know. Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: if we recalled before he won a Super Bowl with
Speaker 1: the great Patrick Malomes, we would always talk about his
Speaker 1: horrific clock management at nausey. We couldn't stop talking about it.
Speaker 1: But then you get a player like Patrick Mahomes is
Speaker 1: a cheat code and you win a Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well, yeah, Eddy Reid got close all
Speaker 1: these other times. I guess he's like the most awesome
Speaker 1: coach ever, But here he is just in a quarter
Speaker 1: and a half not having Patrick Mahomes, and like you said,
Speaker 1: may have may have precipitated it, right, whether it's him
Speaker 1: or Eric b Otomy with the worst blake all ever,
Speaker 1: and then at the end just just gets bailed out.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what are we watching? And so I
Speaker 1: think I just the lesson and all that is, whether
Speaker 1: it's Read or Staley or all these guys. It's like,
Speaker 1: if you've got the greatest players in the game, do
Speaker 1: we really know you're all that awesome? Or did we
Speaker 1: forget about all your flaws from before? Well that was
Speaker 1: a quick reminder. Yesterday, worked out, worked out, chat nye magic,
Speaker 1: Can I can I throw something because I know we're
Speaker 1: running out of time there, and you know, let's let's
Speaker 1: say Mahomes can't play. You know, I'd like the bills
Speaker 1: whether Mahomes in or whether he's out. But let me
Speaker 1: just refresh everybody's memory. Andy Reid has had tremendous success
Speaker 1: with backup quarterbacks. I mean guys like coy Depp mur uh,
Speaker 1: j Feeley, Uh, you know, just go. You know, Jeff
Speaker 1: Garcia is actually a pretty good backup. But when those
Speaker 1: guys come in, you know, he has had a lot
Speaker 1: of success. So if Mahomes is out and he's working
Speaker 1: all week with Chad Henny, you know, a capable veteran
Speaker 1: and with a ton of offensive weapons, don't sell them
Speaker 1: out too quick. Okay. I like that disclaimer. I like
Speaker 1: that disclaimer. Do you want to stay for the first
Speaker 1: five minutes because I have to do a whole Kevin Stefanski. Alright,
Speaker 1: because Kevin Stefanski, this was not his finest day either.
Speaker 1: We should probably close on the Browns. We'll do that
Speaker 1: five more minutes with Chrissy and then Adams. Oh, there
Speaker 1: we go again. Music not approved by either New York Chrissy.
Speaker 1: There it is, alright, guessing lines with Chris Andrews. The
Speaker 1: old the old stardust font from back in the day.
Speaker 1: All right. So the Browns didn't have Jedrick Wills early
Speaker 1: and from early in this game. He left with an
Speaker 1: ankle injury on the first offensive play. The rookie and
Speaker 1: then his backup Kendall Lamb left with an elbow injury,
Speaker 1: forcing Blake Cants to make his second NFL appearance. So
Speaker 1: the Browns were playing with a third string left tackle
Speaker 1: who had barely played and still made a game of
Speaker 1: this after the after after the Patrick Mahomes injury. But
Speaker 1: they weren't help, do I, coach, Kevin Stefanski, Chrissy. He
Speaker 1: went for one down nineteen to nine, nine UM with
Speaker 1: over nine minutes left of the third quarter to make
Speaker 1: it nineteen to ten. That was the first thing I
Speaker 1: was like, what are we doing? Didn't challenge, didn't challenge.
Speaker 1: A DeMarcus Robinson first down catch from Mahomes on the
Speaker 1: subsequent drive early third quarter with Casey up nineteen to
Speaker 1: ten could have might have gotten reversed it was for
Speaker 1: a first down. That drive led to a field goal
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs in a twenty two to ten lead,
Speaker 1: then to seventeen first intent at the case five, Chad
Speaker 1: Henny's in. Now, Chad Henny hits Tyreek for twenty three
Speaker 1: yards right in front of stefanskin. He challenges it and
Speaker 1: it was clearly a catch that blew the Browns first
Speaker 1: time out. They had to use a second time out
Speaker 1: later when they got too close to the end of
Speaker 1: the play clock. After that was after Hendy threw a
Speaker 1: pick in the end zone. Remember, and He's one bad
Speaker 1: pass was the pick into the end zone. So Cleveland
Speaker 1: wasted their second time out on the subsequent drive as
Speaker 1: the play clock went down to zero five seventeen left.
Speaker 1: That's why they only ended up having one time out
Speaker 1: to barrel late, by the way, four plays later, with
Speaker 1: one time out left, that's when at his own thirty
Speaker 1: two fourth and nine with four three left, down seventeen,
Speaker 1: Stefanski decides to punt, so I mean not not exactly
Speaker 1: his finest day either. I would say, well, you know,
Speaker 1: once again, I hate to get into that. You know,
Speaker 1: every coach is an idiot, and you know that's all
Speaker 1: over Twitter, you know, virtually every Saturday and Sunday. You know,
Speaker 1: I hate to get into that. To take the other
Speaker 1: side of it, you know, here was a team that
Speaker 1: was greatly outmatched. They had, you know, a horrible play
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half that clearly could
Speaker 1: have changed the nature of the game, and he hung
Speaker 1: his team in there. I mean, he only lost by five,
Speaker 1: you know. So if we want to go through and
Speaker 1: dissect every little thing that he did wrong, he did
Speaker 1: make some things wrong. He did a lot of good
Speaker 1: things too. And I think I think the Browns, you know,
Speaker 1: listen there in Pittsburgh's division, and you know, I as
Speaker 1: a Steeler fan, I'm gonna have to face these guys
Speaker 1: a couple of times year. I think they got the
Speaker 1: right guy in place, you know, and we, like I said,
Speaker 1: we cant nitpick and uh, and you're not wrong. And
Speaker 1: one thing you said, that's particularly they're not going for two.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that one at all. Uh. But overall,
Speaker 1: he did a good job for the year, and even
Speaker 1: even yesterday, he kept them in the ball game until
Speaker 1: the very end. I mean, if and he doesn't make
Speaker 1: that fourth doub pass, like we just said in the
Speaker 1: last segment, you know, they're down five, I got it
Speaker 1: and getting the ball back with with you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes of play or whatever it was. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: they had a chance to pull that game up. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he made some egregious errors. But overall, I think this
Speaker 1: guy has done a hell of a job this year,
Speaker 1: and I haint to knock him for maybe one game
Speaker 1: or a couple of questionable things, uh, you know, when
Speaker 1: a couple of decisions that he made that I would disagree,
Speaker 1: definitely would disagree with. But overall, a phenomenal season for him,
Speaker 1: And that's why I couched this thing. Not his finest day.
Speaker 1: That's why. Also we highlighted Sean McDermott and how awesome
Speaker 1: he was last week, Right, we do both sides of this,
Speaker 1: how present he was late in that game using his
Speaker 1: time outs, how he basically saved his team or tried
Speaker 1: twice to save his team with time outs and was successful.
Speaker 1: I would argue with the second one against the colt
Speaker 1: So and I think the reason that you end up
Speaker 1: doing that is because we're all betting on this and
Speaker 1: there are so few coaches, ultimately, uh that have the
Speaker 1: presence of mind. I mean, was it Belichick, McDermott, and
Speaker 1: I don't know who else, but but Stefanski certainly a
Speaker 1: fine year. I understand your your broad reaching point. In
Speaker 1: the end, I like Green Bay a whole bunch, and
Speaker 1: I don't know about Buffalo and Kansas City till I
Speaker 1: know who's playing quarterback. How about you? I like Green
Speaker 1: Bay a whole bunch, and I like Buffalo. I don't
Speaker 1: care who playing quarterback. I think right now Kansas City,
Speaker 1: as you know, danced around these close games for a
Speaker 1: couple of mon now, and at some point I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna bite him in the ass. And I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be this coming Sunday. I think Buffalo goes
Speaker 1: in there and beat him. It's a numbers game at
Speaker 1: vast in the sports betting network, Gil Alexander, Chris Andrews, NFL.
Speaker 1: I appreciated it. It is always on Monday's with guesting lines.
Speaker 1: Christy Camp, thank you enough, Oh my pleasure, jil my
Speaker 1: pressure