1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. One out, Good morning to you, Dan Patrick Show, 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Ryan Holnes, Doug Gottlieb in for Dan 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: and Dane's boys are off today. I'm sure there was 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: some meat ingested. So Polly was a snug harbor. I 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: thought that was appropriate, right, He of snug games were 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: snug late. Um. I think Dan was fly fishing last 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: week or something something like that. I don't know. I'm 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: sure you'll hear all about it when when the boys return. Um, Ryan, 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: you have a good fourth I did. I did my 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: daughter's volleyball team. They were they were hanging out. So 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: I was a volleyball dad. That was my thing. That's 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: what I did yesterday. How how old your daughter? She's twelve, 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: twelve year old volleyball girls running around. Yeah, that's that's 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: that's that's fun. You get to I have my My 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: daughters are fifteen, and you get to fifteen. Your dad 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: be hanging out in the hot tub with it wins fifteen, right, 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: just like there's a there's a twelve is about it? 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: That's about it? Oh no, no, no no not they don't. 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: They don't let me hang at twelve no, no, no, 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: these girls they're too tall, they're too big. We don't 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: hang us parents. We kind of flock on our own 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: kind of. There's like a dad's section. Yeah, it's in 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: the middle school dance right where you have the boys 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: and the girls on one side. You get the parents 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: over here and the girls over there. Yeah, and then 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: my son East ten, and there's other kids there and 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: they kind of, you know, he hangs with the boys. 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: It's we're very you know, we're off in our own, 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: uh sex. You know, you kind of just hang out 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: with your group. You know, you we don't mix much. Um, 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: now you get to mix as you've been on multiple networks, right, 33 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: you got that? Yeah, good deal. You haven't done the 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: exclusivity thing, I don't think, right. And so everyone in 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: sports at least and part of it is pretty smart 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: for New York Times to drop it, which but it 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: wasn't a bombshell to people in the industry. Everyone had 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: heard that this tape existed, but it became kind of 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: a bit of a bombshell yesterday with The New York 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Times released this this audio of Rachel Nichols talking about 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: Maria Taylor getting the Countdown job over her Now for 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: some context, Rachel was trying to set up an interview 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: or he wanted some advice from Lebron James longtime advisor 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: Adam Mendelssohn right, and Rich Paul and on the call, 45 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: which apparently was you know, like they tell you in broadcasting, 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: you're always miked up. You are always miked up, And 47 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: just just because you're not on on air doesn't mean 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: that somebody can't somebody can't be listening to your conversation. 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: So here was Rachel Nichols on the pressure that she 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: believes ESPN felt to hire somebody black in that chair 51 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: as opposed to her seeing the NKA final, So the 52 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: son reporting because yeah, but that's so rid us. Yeah, 53 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: so I have time, I don't know what their names 54 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: movie is that they're feeling pressure because of all of that, 55 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: and um, I'm trying to figure out I would just here. 56 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: I think I'm just doing her all the success in 57 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: the world. She have her football, to have a basketball 58 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: you need, but to give her more in tovie, because 59 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: you're being pressure about you're in the cracky long time 60 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: precor anniversary by the way, unself like no personally for 61 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: you to know, like go for it just, you know, 62 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: find it somewhere else. I think, um, what do you think? 63 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Wolf? For one, let me get this out there, Doug. 64 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: I completely agree as a professional in the broadcast industry, 65 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: you are a always live too. Though I don't like it. 66 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: It was a personal conversation, not a public one. She 67 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: wants to make a public statement. Let her make a 68 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: public statement. So I'm I'm not with that, and I'm 69 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: gonna judge accordingly. But what's tough here is this isn't 70 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: the first time that Maria Taylor, a colleague of mine 71 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: who I've worked with, has been kind of thrown under 72 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: the bus because people are uncomfortable that. And I'm I'm 73 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't think this is necessarily Rachel's angle, but people 74 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: are very uncomfortable that you have a African African American 75 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: woman is sending and getting the roles that she's getting. Now, 76 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily Rachel's angle, but there have 77 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: been people that have been uncomfortable with that. And I don't. 78 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: I didn't. I'll let you say, do I just know. 79 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's listen and she in Rachel's defense first 80 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: of all, that, by the way, most of that conversation, 81 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: which should not be late. Agree. Okay, Um, most of 82 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: the conversations, those are the real conversations that people I have, 83 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: Uh my, my, I have a really good friend I own. 84 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: If I give away too many details, people know who 85 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: he is. Who has an expression in our industry which is, hey, 86 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: everybody hates everybody. And I was like, I know, I 87 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: don't hate people like I have. I'm friends with Dan 88 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: and with Colin and with you like you name like 89 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: we're actually I exchange text co to people. Says no, no, no, 90 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: everybody hates he If you start with the everybody hates 91 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: everybody hates on everybody, then you'll be in a good place. 92 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: And um, by my estimation, women in the industry, and 93 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: a lot of it is because they are they are 94 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: judged very, very harshly. Okay, but women in the industry 95 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: are exceptionally catty, exceptionally catty. They talk more trash on 96 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: each other than they do on guys than guys. Fantast too, 97 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: But I like, I don't think it's it's any secret 98 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: that there's a need for diversity in sports television. There 99 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: has been for a long time. I do think ESPN 100 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: has done a really good job. But I mean it 101 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: was pretty transparent what they were doing and trying to 102 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: put a female on every show, right like, this is 103 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: not there not groundbreaking stuff. Anyone in industry, out of 104 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: the industry paying modest attention, would say, hey, what have 105 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: traditionally been jobs that go to males. They've always tried 106 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: to put at least one female. They've tried to make 107 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: be more diverse than the rest of the industry, and 108 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: they've succeeded in it. I think that the question becomes like, 109 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: is what Rachel's saying wrong? Is it fireable? Do you 110 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: suspend her? And then there's the Maria Taylor. I don't think. 111 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: I don't think, by the way, anyone's uncomfortable with her. 112 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: Did you say, what do you say? You said people 113 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: are comfortable with her assent because she's black, is what 114 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: you said. Yeah. I just feel like there's a judgment 115 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: on her that is completely unnecessary that she gets. And 116 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: when my statement to Rachel Nichols was and I think 117 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: you kind of you chimed in on, I think we're 118 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: on the same page, and I think you'd degree here 119 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: everybody he's anybody in Rachel Nichols way, She's not gonna 120 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: like right and by the way, right when you get here, 121 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: you gotta dude, you gotta do to you like you're 122 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: the you're the junior and you've been back up for 123 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: two years. Now they recruits some other dude to start 124 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: over you and you're like, wait, what hey, I've been here, 125 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: like I've I've been here for a minute. That's what happens. Um. 126 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: The hardest thing for me to do, I would say, 127 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: from my personal experience was there's a obviously DeAndre Jordan 128 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: was really struggling shooting free throws, and I shot free 129 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: throws well, not like a ninety percenter, but better than 130 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: he did. And that was the Hey, we'd close out 131 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: games with a center who could shoot free throws right now, 132 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: That kind of knock on DeAndre. But for me, I 133 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: wanted DeAndre to shoot free throws, but I wanted him 134 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: to be the best that he could be when we 135 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: played for the Clippers, Chris Pauably Griffin, all of our guys, 136 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: but that was my DNA. I felt like, even if 137 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: I helped him be a better player and it would 138 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: take me off the court, it was me being me. 139 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: But you do think that in the back of your 140 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: head if I helped this guy out, this is probably 141 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: gonna be my exit out of LA or off the team. 142 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't have that mindset. Rachel Nichols got to where 143 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: she got to for a reason. And this isn't the 144 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: Rachel Nichols bashing the show. Dug Like you said, we 145 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: spoken at guys. We're not going to talk about or 146 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: girls who do not like the person in front of 147 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: them and the only the only problem is they are 148 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: in front of them. It could have been anybody and 149 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: Rachel Nicholas ce and she could have you know, or 150 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: would have had a problem with it. I'll look, let's 151 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: just if we if we're gonna have a real talk 152 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: on this. Ray Hollands, Doug Gotli like Rachel Nichols dad, 153 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: Mike Nichols, the famous director. I don't know how much 154 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: that helped her get her foot in the door. An 155 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: issue when he's at the ESPN. My problem actually with 156 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: Rachel is talking about the network having a terrible history 157 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: of diversity in their hires, Like what are you talking about, 158 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: Rachel Sage Steele was was the last host was a 159 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: was a black woman? Like they haven't they actually, ESPN, 160 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: I would say, has done a better job than anybody, 161 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: maybe even swung in the other direction where there's it's 162 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: not necessarily Tim Legler should be on that show, right, 163 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: Tim Leglers can doing it forever. Each be on that 164 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: show in some former fashion, in some former fashion. Obviously 165 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: Jalen's been doing it. He's well respecting. Jay will knows 166 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: hoop and he was a he was a bigger name 167 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: player and was on a big show and get up 168 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: and got that opportunity. But I looked there there there 169 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: are reasons, I do think, and and oh, by the way, 170 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: to those of us who are like white guys in 171 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: the industry, the reality is that because there was such 172 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: a lack of diverse for so long, yeah, sometimes hires 173 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: aren't going to go your way because of it. We 174 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: all know it. It's a bit of an evening of 175 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: the playing field from years of it not being that way. 176 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: But it is interesting kind of the pushback of Rachel Nichols, 177 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: who who was elevating and here Maria Taylor came out 178 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: of nowhere, wasn't covering the NBA to hosting their biggest show, 179 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: and um and and I don't think Rachel Nichols would 180 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: have been the best in that position. She is right though, 181 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: like she was hosting The Jump, she's basically hosting a 182 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: roundtable conversation on the NBA every day. She's got long 183 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: standing relationships in it, and Maria pops in and leap 184 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: frogs her. So now is she gonna be upset? But 185 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: there's a there's there's a reasoning behind that deal and um, 186 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: she gives her logic and reason why. I think it's. Look, 187 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: it's a really bad look to leak any media because 188 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: now it shows kind of in fighting. I would be 189 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: honest and say that there's you could probably find that 190 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: audio on some form of fashion on every television lot 191 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: in America, right, And uh, but it is it's a 192 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: it's a really bad look for Rachel. Um who's you 193 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: know calling you know, calling it as she sees it 194 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: when she has been the beneficiary on some level of 195 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: the same evening of the playing field. No, you're You're 196 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: absolutely right, And and that's the tough part. And like 197 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: I said, you know, she's finding a reason and well, 198 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: people don't realize too. Doug is in track and field 199 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: and basketball, Doug, when we had a competitor on the 200 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: other side, for the most part, you just play the 201 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: guy one on one and at some point you're gonna 202 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: see Ryan's the better player, Doug's the better player. You're 203 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: gonna see, you're gonna know who gets the best of 204 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: the matchup. When it comes to broadcasting, it's it's it's 205 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: it's definitely, um, it's it's one in which it is 206 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily performance based. No, just not Yeah. And there's 207 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people who could you know, sit in 208 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: the seats that we're sitting in right now, honestly, And 209 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: it's sometimes hard to differentials, say differential yourself. And I've 210 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: come to try to come to terms with this as 211 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: opposed to my basketball career, where it's okay, well, this 212 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: guy's more popular, this guy's hotter at the moment, he's 213 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: been around longer. You know, sometimes sometimes comes down to 214 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: who's better looking, and I and I and and tell 215 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: me how that's become a thing that no, listen, that's 216 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: become a like you can't you can't do that. Like 217 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: it's television. It's a visual medium. Who would you rather 218 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: look at? You know, I mean, you've everyone's work with 219 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: somebody like them. They're just good looking. They're just better 220 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: looking to me, right, they have better hair, than me. 221 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: Guy or girl doesn't matter. And somehow we've made it 222 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: where people want to watch the X and don't want 223 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: to watch why and well it's about and again I 224 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: don't know. Do I think they wanted a black host? Course, 225 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: remember when this all happened, this is you had me too, 226 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: and you have all the other protests and and but 227 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Maria is young, she is a former athlete herself. Do 228 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: I think she was accomplished the level she should get 229 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: that gig? Of course not, of course, not there are 230 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: you know? I mean, look, Rhys Davis is a guy 231 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: you could slide over. John Anderson, you could slide over 232 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: and there's plenty of guys have been doing there, but 233 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: that's not what the league. By the way, the League 234 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: also mandates who they want. You know, it's such a 235 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: big show. Here's a here's a here's a poorly kept secret. 236 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: Why isn't Stephen A. Smith on that show? Because the 237 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: League doesn't want him on that show? So they're like, 238 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: all right, well we you don't want him on the show. 239 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: Who do you want? And they say, all right, well 240 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: we want this is this is about what we want 241 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: on our show. Do they individually pick? Not always, but 242 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: there are some people who get blackballed. That that's the 243 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: way sports work. If you know that that the leagues 244 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: do determine. So I think there's a I think it's interesting. 245 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: I don't think it's just this industry, but this industry specifically, 246 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: which in all honesty, has gone through a dramatic change 247 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: in terms of the the volume of diversity not not 248 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: just black or white, but also male or female on 249 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: TV covering sports for years to the point where it 250 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: is interesting if it swung in a fashion where okay, 251 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: now it's now, it does not mirror who's watching right 252 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: who's watching and what do they want to watch? That's 253 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: really what should be most most important. With Ryan Hollins 254 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: on Doug Gottlie, this is the you gotta go, You 255 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: gotta wake up Ryan for a different is the normal? 256 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: My wake up, Doug. You got me out of bed? Doug, 257 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: all right out, We're out of bed. Be sure to 258 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays 259 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports 260 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: Radio and the iHeart Radio WAPP Doug Gottleiban, Ryan Hans 261 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: and for Dan and the Danets. Ryan, do you know 262 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: who this band is? I don't know this band, does 263 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't know the band. Who's this? That's a tough one, guys. 264 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: This is Blues Traveler Okay, boost travel Uh was super 265 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: popular about twenty years ago. Yeah. John Popper's the lead 266 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: singer's name. He was. He was at the time like 267 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: morbidly obese, and he had this big thing of harmonicas 268 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: and he was amazing, amazing. Um I made When I say, 269 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: when I say he was amazing, I tell you that 270 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: John Popper's dead. He's not. He's lost a bunch of weight. 271 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: But they're not as popular. But I I've made a 272 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: couple of amazing John Popper stories which don't fit I 273 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: don't think in the Dan Patrick's show. But they were. 274 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: They were. Them and Dave Matthews Band were like head 275 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: to head in the early in the late nineties as 276 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: the two most popular bands in that genre, and of 277 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: course Dave Matthews Band has continued on on that upper trajectory. Anyway, 278 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: Enough about Mario, Um do we do? We have Rob 279 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: Parker because Rob wanted to hop in on the He'll 280 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: join us in a second. You know, Ryan, obviously you 281 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: playing in the NBA as long as you did. You 282 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: understand what I try to convey to people, which sometimes 283 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: when you lose your best guy or one of your 284 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: best guys, bad broadcasters do the well somebody's gonna step up. Well, yeah, obviously, 285 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: But when you change kind of who you are and 286 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: how you play, there's a certain freedom to it. Right, 287 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: Like we've seen when the first game, when when Milwaukee 288 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: didn't have Jannis, that that ball moves a little bit more, right, 289 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: It moves because there's not one guy who can go 290 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: one on one and create shots for everybody else. And 291 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: you know you're going to the gym, gonna get more shots, 292 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: gonna get more opportunities, and so there's a certain level 293 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: of excitement. Conversely, you're also usually being defended eventually by 294 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: a better player, because the best player is usually guarding 295 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: the other team's best player. Best defenders guard. Anyway, that said, 296 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: this is a unique series. It's gonna be built as 297 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: Chris Paul trying to finally win his championship late in 298 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: his career and Yanna is trying to solidify himself as 299 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: a superstar and win a champion. And yet if we 300 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: really look at it, the Bucks closed out the Hawks 301 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: without Yannis the last two games and the Suns went 302 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: up two games a none on the Clippers without Chris Paul. 303 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Doug, the proof is in the pudding said 304 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: it earlier. Lebron James misses a game. Is there any 305 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: chance on Guy's Green Earth that the Lakers close out 306 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: of team? No, No, there isn't. If Kevin Durant goes missing. 307 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: For the Brooklyn Nets, they already didn't have a shot, 308 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, I mean it was already a struggle. It 309 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: was a struggle. Uh, without James Harden or without Kyrie Irving, 310 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: they ain't a shot without Kevin Durant. We say if 311 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: we said, if it if the Nets only lost Kevin 312 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: Durant but still had Kyrie Irving and James Harden, or 313 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: when they lost Kyrie Irving, if they would have still 314 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: had James Harden, when they didn't have James Harden and 315 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: they still had Kyrie Irving and and Kevin Durant, Like 316 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: that's the I think the mistake in that is those 317 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: teams are built that way. They kind of they kind 318 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: of are, but they're not doing it without ka d. Yeah, 319 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: but Lebron's Lebron's team. Like this year, Lebron couldn't win 320 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: without a D or a healthy a D, would you 321 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: just really wouldn't have a shot. You know, you wouldn't 322 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: have a shot without a D, but you really wouldn't 323 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: have Nonetheless, what I'm saying is, and it's the truth 324 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: of the matter, those are good teams, but those aren't 325 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: necessarily A plus plus superstar players. Chris Paul superstar never 326 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: been to the Big Dance before. Obviously, lob City Clippers, 327 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: we couldn't get it done. We couldn't get over the edge. 328 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: And they think it ended up being more of a 329 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: knock on Blake Griffin in the composition of our team. 330 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: But ultimately, you know, Chris wasn't like Lebron Like Chris 331 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: wasn't Kade. You know, there's no disc There's only there's 332 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: only a handful of those guys, less than a handful 333 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: of those guys on the planet. And Yannis onto the 334 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: coupo in the fourth quarter is not the best player 335 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: on the Milwaukee Bucks. Let me say it again. Let 336 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: me slow it down. I note, Doug, a lot of 337 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: people didn't hear. Yannis onto the coupo in the fourth 338 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: quarter of basketball games is not the best player on 339 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks. It's Chris Middleton. Chris Middleton is a 340 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: guy who puts you over the edge. So I mean 341 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: it just it is what it is. You are who 342 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: we thought we were. And Doug, to mark my words, 343 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: the debate's gonna get sparked up. And you know, Chris 344 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: Paul is the greatest thing ever. Yannis on the Coupo, 345 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: He's the greatest thing ever smoking you got over the edge. 346 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna get all the accolades, but not quite from me. 347 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: I think you have to respect those guys. You're talking 348 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: Hall of famers, but there's just levels. There's Durant levels, 349 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: there's Lebron, there's Steph Curry levels. You know, there's Kawhi 350 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: Leonard levels even and I'm not ready to send those 351 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: guys past. Okay, does how they play in this series 352 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: does that determine whether or not? Like if Jannis does 353 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: dominate in the fourth quarter coming off of a bad knee, 354 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: does that change your opinion. I'm gonna I'm gonna give 355 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: respect where it's due because that's what I'm about. But 356 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: I would have to see consistency there and like, ultimately, 357 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: like here's the truth. Man, When you're a smaller guard, 358 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: it is hard for you to get your shot off 359 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: at really really high levels of basketball. Yes, we've even 360 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: seen Steph Curry struggle at times getting a shot off. 361 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: You know you can kind of That's why when Kevin 362 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: Durant came in, it was like, Okay, give it to 363 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: the one on one guy, because Steph can make a shot, 364 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: but he's not gonna make it at high level stake 365 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: the same way that Kevin Durant would. So we'll play 366 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: through Kevin Durant. We'll use you as a space And 367 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: no disrespect at all to Steph Curry, but in terms 368 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: of Chris Paul, it is tough, it really really high 369 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: stakes for a smaller guard to get a shot off. 370 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a knock to those guys. 371 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: That's just why the always don't. I don't actually think 372 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna disagree with you here, okay, And but look, 373 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: you played in the league I didn't. I don't. Yes, 374 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: it is hard to get your shot off, absolutely okay, 375 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: But it's also that's not where being a small guard 376 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: hurts you. It's at the other end of the court, 377 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: right there's just like you get you just it's Isaiah 378 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: Thomas after the hip you just can't hide him. He's 379 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: obviously not the same guy. But I'm saying, when we 380 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: crown guys as the guy, like when we crown the shot, right, 381 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: we crowned kd Is because he makes the shot. We 382 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: crown Michael Jordan Cobe because they make the shot. You 383 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: can't expect the same of a small guard. Go ahead, duck, No, 384 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: I was I was just saying, I don't think it 385 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: comes down to making the shot. I do think so, 386 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: So if Yannis makes the shot, do we crown? Let's 387 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: welcome in Rob Parker who joins us. Of course, odd couple, 388 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: which you can hear at seven eastern ten Pacific, four 389 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: Pacific coast time. Of course you can see him undisputed 390 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports one another TV shows. Okay, so, uh Rob, 391 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: if let's say yes, if they win, does this put 392 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: him on a higher plane? Even though I don't think 393 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: anybody believes we're truly seeing the two best teams in 394 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: the NBA. Yeah, I mean, good morning, guys, We're not 395 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: seeing the best teams. But a win is a win. 396 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: You can't take it away from him. He will have 397 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: buck the trend. He stayed in the small market Milwaukee 398 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: and somehow he got a championship, you know. So, I 399 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: mean it's going to count whether we like it or not. 400 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: And what I mean like it, like what's happened in 401 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: this postseason, But it'll count. Rob, What do you mean 402 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: count You're the king of crowd, You're the hater of 403 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: all haters, and now you're talking about it counts. Yeah. Rob, 404 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 1: you're the only guy in sports media who can call 405 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: him the question every one of Tom Brady's Super Bowls, 406 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: And yet you're not going to question of either these 407 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: two teams winning a championship. No, are you feeling a little? 408 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: Do you have you come? Have you been vaccinated? Do 409 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: you have COVID brain? This is the Delta variant. Watch 410 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: out for the Delta V Huh. But but I mean 411 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: even in Tom Brady's case, I mean, he has seven 412 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowls. Whether they're all legit or not, or whether 413 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: he's the low the luckiest of all time, he has 414 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: seven to his credit. All I'm saying is, you know, Yannis, 415 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: they gotta play with what's in front of them. Did 416 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: they get advantage? Yes? Did the Sun's getting advantage all 417 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: the way to the to the championship, yes, with all 418 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: the injuries. But but I don't know if we can 419 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: sit here and honestly say it doesn't count. Last year 420 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: in the Bubble the Mickey Mouse Championship, lebron got it counts. 421 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: I mean Miami had two starters missing. Okay? Is it lucky? Rob? 422 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: Here we go, yes, numerically accounts in the history book again, 423 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: is it lucky? Okay? Does it counter Rob Parker's eyes. 424 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: That's what we want to know. Come on, Rob, No, 425 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: it counts, but I'm not gonna like have a parade 426 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: for it, or go, oh my god, look at what 427 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: Jannis and the Bucks did, or look at what the 428 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: Suns did. If if Yannis doesn't play and the Suns 429 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: win the championship and they will help you know, won 430 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: a championship without playing? Uh A d and Jamal Murray 431 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: and and Kawhi Leonard and and and Jannas. Sure do 432 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: you look at it, Sideway? Sure you would. But all 433 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying is there's no asterist. I don't believe in 434 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: that it would count, but I would see this is 435 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: this is, this is why I enjoy a host with you. Ryan. 436 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: Supposed they asked me if I wanted Rob Day, I 437 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: was like ad him as a gas and that coast 438 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: because I'm about messing around just contradicted the argument, did 439 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: he Yes? He did? Like we all heard that, right, 440 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: we can run back. You want us run back to tape? Rob? 441 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: Thank you? It is it is okay, Okay, maybe here's 442 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: the question, Rob, This is actually something I just thought 443 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: of and Ryan kind of got to it but didn't, like, 444 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: do you remember when Michael Jordan retired? We went through 445 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: a very very dark time in the NBA. The players 446 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: were better, They're great, like Rashid Wallace and Alan Iverson. 447 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: These guys were Vince Carter, unbelievable talents, Tracy McGrady. Okay, 448 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: but there wasn't Everyone was fighting to be the kind 449 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: of next guy next Jordan, and none of them and 450 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: the Spurs and the Nets played in the NBA finals 451 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: win years like the lowest rated finals. Is any of 452 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: this just a product of we were on such a 453 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: high high with Lebron You had one guy who was 454 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: the guy, and look, you have other guys that are 455 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: trying to get up. Who's the best player in the 456 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: NBA But he has been because the league has been 457 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: so Lebron centric that now with Lebron out, and then 458 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: you have all these other stars out. It just it 459 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: feels a little bit like the post Jordan era, and 460 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: maybe this is what we're bound to see over the 461 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: next six or seven years as we're waiting for the 462 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: next Lebron MJ you know, Kobe Bird magic type of player. Yeah, 463 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm not there yet, Doug, because you know, because of 464 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: all the injuries. I think, you know, if, if the 465 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: if the Nets are all healthy, those will be skyrocketed 466 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: ratings to see three great players like that win two 467 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: or three championships or something like that. So until I 468 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: see the Durants and Hardens and those guys come and go, 469 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that we wouldn't be enjoying this that. 470 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: I think the Game seven buck Nets Game seven was 471 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: the highest rated playoff game so far, So this star 472 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: power there, we just didn't get to see it to Fruition. 473 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: So I'm not there yet, Doug. I gotta see more 474 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: of these guys play and stay healthy before I'm ready 475 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: to say we're gonna return to you know that era. 476 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: But I do remember it very well between the Spurs 477 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: and the Nets, when nobody in New York care because 478 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: they played in New Jersey and it was it was 479 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: dark times for the NBA. Was Chicari Richardson wronged by 480 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: being kept out of the hundred and she can run 481 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: by the way in the what's it called in the 482 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: relay because that's beyond a month? Which is was she 483 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: wronged by Yusada getting suspended for a month? How is 484 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: she wrong? No? I mean she failed the drug test. 485 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean and no matter whether we think weed is 486 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: a peed or whatever, it's on their list, everybody knows 487 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: about it. And the shame of it all really is 488 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: that you know, this just doesn't happen because either you 489 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: know this, Doug and Ryan, Ryan, you play in the NBA, 490 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: they alert you and let you know when the drug 491 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: test is coming. No, they don't, Rob they know. They 492 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: do not tell us when the weed man is coming, 493 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: Rob you, No, we don't know. And the but in 494 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: this case, Ryan, in this case, everybody knows. They know 495 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: first of all, for sprinters, for sprinters and for the 496 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: hunter they no, no, no, no, no, yeah, NBA you 497 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: can fail it. But yeah no, no, no, you're right, 498 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: you're right. Yes, yes, in terms of track and field, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, 499 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: it's I don't I don't understand why we think because 500 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: league is waged is legal in Oregon, and she ran 501 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: in Oregon that somehow it vindicates her for something that 502 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: she knew. This book test hilled Nope, book tests that 503 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: that's what over there was like we means open book test, 504 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: like I forgot my book. Well, that's on you. That's 505 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: like that's a you, that's a that's a you problem. 506 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: I didn't use my book. I've actually heard that in 507 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: my own house. Hold on Rob, I'm not done with you. 508 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm not done with you yet, Rob. All right, all right, 509 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: all right, all right. When when Kawhi Leonard won the 510 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: championship in Toronto, you had to sit back and say, 511 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: he's the best player on the planet. Kawhi Leonard with 512 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: Lebron James out lebron Let's playoffs, he was the best 513 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: player on the planet. When they win a championship for 514 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: the run he went on and how he played there, 515 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: there were no questions. Better than Katie's better than Steph 516 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: the best player on the planet after this championship, better 517 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: than Katie got hurt. Katie got hurt, But Katie didn't 518 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: win a championship, and life happens. Doug Hey, Hey, but 519 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: hold on, hey, Rod Parker Rod Parker after this championship, 520 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: Are you gonna be telling me Chris Paula, Yannis Hunt 521 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: the Coupo are the best players on the planet. Does 522 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: you want to certify this championship so much? No, I 523 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: won't be saying that, And obviously we gotta see I mean, 524 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: we're still watching Jannis completely missed the rim on free 525 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: throws and other things. I'm not there to think he's 526 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: the best player on the planet. I know in a 527 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: big spot, I wouldn't want him on the free throw 528 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: line to win a game for me. So no, I 529 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: can't say that even with winning a championship. Who knows 530 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: Chris Middleton with a K might be the finals MVP 531 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done and not Yanni. It 532 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: might be like when Akewadowa won the MVP and not 533 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: Steph Curry Chris Middleton. That's so disrespectful. I'm just saying 534 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: it could be somebody other than the main guy winning 535 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: v hold on, hold on, hold on. Chris Middleton's not 536 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: the main guy. No is the main guy? No, yea, 537 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: this is the main guy. Look, Chris Middleton. His job 538 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: is to get buckets, no, no question, and he has 539 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: to pick up where yan, but they play through honest, Yeah, 540 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: we have seen how much? How much? How much will 541 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: they play through? Yeah? How much will we play? How 542 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: much will they play through? Honest? And that's also Ryan. 543 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: It's like, it's like the Paul George thing. You know, 544 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: Paul George has a great game, like oh to the 545 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: all the haters, like, yeah, dude, but you were four, 546 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: you're five or twenty the game before and you were 547 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: you weren't great, you know the next game like the 548 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: best of the best are every night you put up 549 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: thirty and thirty and ten. It seems like I think 550 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: it was I think the Paul George and and correct 551 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: me Rob if I'm wrong. The Paul George answer is 552 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: like people are acting like Paul George couldn't play basketball. Now, 553 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: none of us analysts or former players would act like 554 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: Paul George just you know, didn't deserve a max contractor 555 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: just was a horrific player. We're just saying he was 556 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: a good player. They didn't step up in big moment, 557 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: so what people took it to the next level. So 558 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: I think it was more so to the non educated 559 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: basketball fan of my civilians. Civilian yeah, yeah, I get that, 560 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: but people look at it. And when you give your 561 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: you give yourself a nickname. Playoff pe and in game 562 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: seven you're hitting the side of the backboard and stuff 563 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: like that. People are gonna come down on you. That's 564 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: just the nature of you know, sports and people and fans. 565 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean he can't play. We've seen him 566 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: put up some tremendous games. Obviously he's a great player. 567 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: He just hadn't been that consistent when it matters most. 568 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: But I think the Clippers future is bright. I do 569 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: last last thing. Rob Shoho Tony is Um got in 570 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: the Ulctar game as a pitcher and a hitter, and 571 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: right I don't know how manuch of o this said. 572 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: Rob loves a lot of things. His his Tom Brady 573 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: take probably first and foremost. Second greatest love is the 574 00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: city of Detroit. Third greatest love is baseball and base fall. 575 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 1: I may have jumbled the rankings a little bit. Um. 576 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: How would you describe what Shohei Otani is doing in 577 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball to somebody who hasn't been paying attention. 578 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: It has been tremendous. I call him his My nickname 579 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: is Shohei me the money Otani because he has been money, 580 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: and as advertised. I mean, we haven't seen a guy 581 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: since Babe Ruth, and we didn't get to see Babe 582 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: Ruth do what he's doing. He's been tremendous. I mean, 583 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: you can't and lead the league in home runs, throws 584 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: over one hundred miles an hour pitch wise, it's just 585 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: a shame. You know. The worst thing about Otani and 586 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: and I notice isn't fair of the people who loved 587 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: the Angels and live in Orange County and all that. Yeah, man, yeah, 588 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: like you Baseball could only wish this guy was playing 589 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: for the Yankees or the Dodgers or the Cubs or 590 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: some situation like that, because we're probably then I probably 591 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: won't make the playoffs. And you'll see this. You know, 592 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: you don't get to see this guy enough. And the 593 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: other part is you know this, you know when you 594 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: play on the West Coast, uh, most of America is 595 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: sleep when you're actually playing games, so you also don't 596 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: get to see him as much. But he's as advertised, 597 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: he's great. The best part is actually they'll they'll eventually 598 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: get Mike Trout back and then have arguably two best 599 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: players and still not make the playoffs. It is that 600 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: his life pitching about pitching. Who who who are you 601 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: taking in the in the NBA finals? And are we 602 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: putting some some wings on it? All right, we're not 603 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: putting wings. But I'm gonna take uh As Johanna is playing. 604 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: Do we know is he gonna play or not? We 605 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: do not know if he's gonna play. That's why I 606 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: asked you. Just it's I'm gonna take the Phoenix Suns 607 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: because they've had everything go their way with injuries, and 608 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: say Johannis doesn't play and they get the what's the 609 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: hat trick plus one? You know what I mean? Because 610 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: they'll have four straight series where the best player is 611 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: not playing. So I'm gonna go with the Phoenix Sun. 612 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: But you credit the championship. But you gotta see you 613 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: had to say that, but you credit the championship. That 614 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: championship will be full gazy no matter what. Okay, Derek, 615 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: thank you, good Doug. How long has he been on? 616 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: And he finally admits that, right, he tried to legitimize it, 617 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: legitimize it, legitimize it. And then all of a sudden, 618 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: the real Rob Parker came out and said, yeah, this 619 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: is it's for gazy it's a joke. It's for gazy. 620 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: We know that, but but but hey, but it will 621 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: count in the record books. We do know that neither guy. 622 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: Is there even a top ten player in the NBA 623 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: playing in the finals and you want to credit? Is 624 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: there what top ten guy? Is a two time MVP? Dude, Yes, 625 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: you're not the best player on his team? Will you 626 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: giving the ball to in the fourth quarter? Not him? Guys, 627 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: there's like again, but you're you're then you're actually making 628 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: the You're making an anti Lebron point because le Bron 629 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: didn't always take the big shot. Have the belt ball 630 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter? Right, and Steph Curry is oh 631 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: for ten in the final ten seconds making a shot 632 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: that are you either win the game for his team 633 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: or tie it? So what are you? What are you saying? 634 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: If you're trying to tell me about Joannice, I wouldn't 635 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: give step the ball? Yes you would. There ain't nobody 636 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: harassing Jannie to keep the ball out of his hand. 637 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: He's getting kids getting face guarding nobody's face guarding Jannie 638 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: saying may there's a no catch rule. You're trying again. 639 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: Now you're having the basketball in the Civilian discussion there, Ryan, 640 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: we we got it. So okay, Rob, we're putting you 641 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: down for the Phoenix Suns. I'll just I just I'm 642 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: just gonna take the bucks just because I want. I 643 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: do think if Jannce is healthy, it's a bad matchup 644 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: for the Suns. But two, I want some wings out 645 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: of this deal. I listened to The Odd Couple. I 646 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: listened The Odd Couple every day, by the way, seven 647 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: to ten Eastern time. To listen to the podcast as well. 648 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: It's super popular. Fall on Twitter at Rob Parker fs one. 649 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: We were doing some some wings I got, I got. 650 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: I think we're working on what Wednesday? And are we 651 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: working together Wednesday? Yes, Hey Doug, I'll take those wings. 652 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: I'll take the Sun. I'll take Sons. I'm not gonna 653 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: go sons in four like my man, but I'll take sons. 654 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: I'll take some of those wings. All right, let's do it. 655 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the Suns. I'm gonna take I'm gonna 656 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: take them, take the bucks. Good stuff, Rob, thanks for 657 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: joining us, appreciate it, right, Yes always, guys, thanks for 658 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: my man. Thanks Okay, Ryan, Ryan just said Jannie is 659 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: not a top ten player. In the end, I'll give 660 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: you talk ten. You caught me, I'll give you top ten. 661 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: He's top ten. Yeah, it's it's it's an interesting discussion. Um, Okay. 662 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons is a magnificent talent. Where should he play 663 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: next season? Find out next? Fox Sports Radio has the 664 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 665 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within 666 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app search f s R to listen 667 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: live Doug Gottlieben, Ryan Hollins, and for Dan the Danetts 668 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: here on the Dan Patrick Show Fox Sports Radio. I 669 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: want to thank so many of you for posting videos 670 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: on Instagram of fireworks. I did not know what fireworks 671 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: look like until you showed me on your Instagram, So 672 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: thank you. Wow. I just never understood. It was like, 673 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: here's our fireworks this way. Like you know, I looked 674 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: out my window last night and I saw the exact 675 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: same thing, the exact same thing. Doug, what's the best 676 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: fireworks show you've ever seen in your life? Um, there's 677 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: one in We used to live in Westport, Connecticut, and 678 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: there's a there's a company that makes kids like books 679 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: and toys called Michelle and Doug and they actually they're 680 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: out of the family lives in Westport and they their 681 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: company is in I think Norwalk, Connecticut, which is right 682 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: next to her anyway, So they pay a sponsor for 683 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: this fireworks show and it's out over Compo Beach, and 684 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's great, Like the whole town just goes 685 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: out there and you watch the fireworks and it's they 686 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: have a Melissa and Doug sign out there. That's probably 687 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: the best. I mean, you know, like, look, I've seen 688 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: the one over the I guess it's over the it's 689 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: over the Hudson in New York. That's pretty spectacular. Man, 690 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: I've seen them all. They're kind of kind of all 691 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: the same, Like they're like ac DC songs, Right, there's 692 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: a little bit of differences to it the same, right, 693 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: That's that's kind of how I look at the fire 694 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: What about you? Is there like one that jumps out 695 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: at you? Uh? Disneyland's pretty good when it when like 696 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, it gets like going, you know, like the 697 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: like the finale sons going crazy. Yeah, yeah, I can't 698 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: they just do the finale the whole time. You're right, Bui, 699 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: You're right. They make enough money, um, and then well 700 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: it was pretty cool when I played in Grand Canaria. Yeah, 701 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: I gotta. I decided not to stay where the team 702 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: made made me a place because I'm like, dude, I 703 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: want to be on the beach. You know, I'm here 704 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: on the beach. I'm gonna pay a little extra money. 705 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: Still on the beach. Every night, there's a fireworks show 706 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 1: every single night. And Doug, I had a newborn baby 707 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: who was not happy. She was not happy. Every time 708 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: the fireworks would all she would be grumpier than But 709 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: we had a fireworks show staying on the beach every night. 710 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: Fireworks will be going off right at seven thirty. Um. Yeah, 711 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: you can't do the fireworks every night. I mean, look, 712 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: if you grew up in Orange County in the summer, 713 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: there's there's firewers of Disneyland every night. It's just it's 714 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: like it's like having probably part of the good thing 715 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: to having steak or to go into a restaurant is 716 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: like okay, and this is how it was when we 717 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: were kids. Before they had free refills for stuff. We 718 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: used to get like okay, you can get soda, but 719 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: only at a restaurant. You're like, wow, we got coked. 720 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: The restaurant is so cool, or dessert. You get that. 721 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: That's that's like when you play in college, like can 722 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: we get apps or dessert? Like you can get whatever 723 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: you want, Like oh my god, really yeah I want 724 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: I want you always over order. Um, I did have 725 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: a fireworks display gone wrong. I mean everybody has no 726 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: one got hurt. So when Brooke and Robin Lopez were 727 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: like two years old, I went to the A National 728 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: Championships with their brother Alex, and I thought they were 729 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: like seven or eight years old. I thought they were 730 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: like having trouble speaking because they're like seven eight years 731 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: old when they were like not yet two years old. 732 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: As a true story, but we all a bunch of 733 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: families bought fireworks up in Washington, and yeah, some of 734 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: the boxes got tipped over and fired them into the 735 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: crowd and people are scurrying and whoa, yeah, yeah it 736 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: was oh yeah, it was crazy last night in Los Angeles. 737 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't know around the country what it's like, but 738 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: LA has more illegal fireworks than anything I've ever seen ever. 739 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 1: Like everyone's seeing those helicopter shots of my neighborhood. They're 740 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: having a black party and there's all these ones that 741 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: go up in the air, Like we know what legal 742 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: are and illegal are and they're badly illegal whatever? But 743 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: like everyone has them? Are they are they even illegal? 744 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: Or is it just like when you blow your finger off? 745 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: We can't take the response there some some you know 746 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: what I'm saying though, like we can't take responsibility because 747 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: you don't have the proper training to be using these things. No, 748 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: it's more for fire danger than else. Okay, fire danger, 749 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: not people blown off their digits, although they do blow 750 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: off their digits, So we'll blow off there what dog digits, digs? 751 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: Fingers digits? Maybe I need to unimity to nunciate a 752 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: little bit better, all right, does does this year's champion 753 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: bucks your sons? Well, they carry an asterisk. Whether it's 754 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: a real asterist or a mental asterist, we'll discuss. That's 755 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: how becoming next to The Dan Patrick Show and Fox 756 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 1: Sports tradeo