1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Dear listener. First of all, happy holidays and felises pistas. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: You know, this year, the holidays look and feel so 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: different than any of the celebrations we've ever had before, 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: and so we asked you, our listener, to tell us 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: about your plans, and this is what you had to say. 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Hi, Maria, my name is DeBie Rossa. I live over 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: here in sunny San Diego, California. So usually how my 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: family spends Christmas is we get all together to my 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: grandma's house. My grandma is ninety seven, and we just 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: you know, eat everything manulo tam. Unfortunately, we're not going 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: to be gathering at all. It sounds like we're going 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: to be doing like a like a drive buy from 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: my grandma, so she's not lone during you know, Christmas night. 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: My name is Norma and I'm from Montclair, New Jersey. 15 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: I and my children celebrated this past Thanksgiving, and we're 16 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: planning on doing it a little differently for Christmas. They 17 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: have never cooked a turkey the way you know the 18 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: Puerto Ricans do it, and they followed me as I 19 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: prepared the turkey with the belong and the garlic and 20 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: the ore and all that good stuff, and then the 21 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: next day we each stuck the turkey in the oven 22 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: and it was cooking. They followed me, and you know, 23 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 3: they had their own ingredients and we all made a roccunandule. 24 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: What was great about this was that the pandemic gave 25 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: us an opportunity to actually pass down some of these 26 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: great Puerto Rican recipes to my children, and hopefully they 27 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: will be able to do the same for their children. 28 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: From Futuro Media, It's Latino Usa. I'm Maria Jojosa and 29 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: today a socially distant Christmas special. Christmas is a very 30 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: special time for many Latinos and Latinas, and it's not 31 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: just about the religious part of it. It's that one 32 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: time of the year when you get to see your abulitos, 33 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: your bias, your primos and brimas who live far away. 34 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Everyone knows that this is a time to gather around 35 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: the table, to eat delicious food, to drink maybe a 36 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: little bit too much, to celebrate, to dance, sing, and 37 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: let it all hang out. But this year, COVID nineteen 38 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: has turned the holiday celebrations upside down. Most of us 39 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: are going to stay at home. We won't be gathering 40 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: with any of our extended families and relatives to keep 41 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: them safe and ourselves too. I feel a bit lonelier 42 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: this year, but there are so many reasons to stay positive, thankful, 43 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: and even hopeful. And that's why we wanted to talk 44 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: with Latinos and Latinas who actually have a lot of 45 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: experience spending the holidays away from their loved ones as 46 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: it is. Sometimes it's because of their job, sometimes it's 47 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: because they can't legally travel across borders. And so for 48 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: many people in the Latino community, spending Christmas away from 49 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: family is not so new. How have they learned to 50 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: cope with the holidays and what tips can they share 51 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: This year, when so many of us are going to 52 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: be away from our families during the holidays, We're going 53 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: to start our socially Distant and Responsible Christmas Special. In Oakland, California, 54 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: producer Renaldo Leangos Junior spoke to a Puerto Rican musician 55 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: for whom music has always been an essential part of Christmas. 56 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,119 Speaker 1: Here's Renaldo with that story. 57 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: Maria Jose Montico is an acupuncturist and a musician with 58 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 4: the She's originally from Puerto Rico, but it's been living 59 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 4: in the Bay Area for more than thirteen years. Mariasa's 60 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: music has always been a part of her life, especially 61 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: during the holidays. 62 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 5: In Puerto Rico, we have this tradition that's called paranda, 63 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 5: and it's basically like somewhere around Christmas, a group of 64 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 5: people decide to go around from house to house and 65 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 5: wake up people in the middle of the night by 66 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 5: playing music. 67 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 4: Duringa paranda, people usually quietly gather around other people's homes 68 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: and then they shout. 69 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 5: Asato and then the music will start and it's like 70 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 5: this typical Puerto Rican Christmas music. 71 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: Maria grew up with these traditions in San Juan, Puerto Rico. 72 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 5: The neighbors would open their doors and you know, offer 73 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 5: up all their food and their drink, and then the 74 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 5: people that would come in would just like play music, 75 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 5: sing and dance together. 76 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: The celebration is also really long, she says, like it 77 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: starts like. 78 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 5: In December, and then it goes towards January, towards the 79 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 5: Reyes Maggos, and then after the Regyes Magos, there's the Oktavitas, 80 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 5: and after the Octavitas, and there's the San Sebastian Festival, 81 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 5: and then that you know, Christmas is like officially over 82 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 5: in February. 83 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: Getting together as a family is what Maria enjoys most 84 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: about the holidays. She tries to go back to Puerto 85 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 4: Rico a few times a year, but sometimes she hasn't 86 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 4: been able to visit during the holidays. She remembers some 87 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 4: Christmases she spent in Oakland away from her family. Those 88 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 4: moments were pretty lonely, sad, and she felt very homesick. 89 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 5: But I feel like after I started being part of 90 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 5: this Puerto Rican Bomba community, then we would gather to 91 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 5: celebrate as we do in Puerto Rico, So that made 92 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 5: everything better. Honestly, to have a strong community here. It's 93 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 5: kind of like chosen family that's very rooted in the 94 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 5: culture of where I'm from, so it's kind of evoking 95 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 5: my good times in my childhood. 96 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: Maria also found solace and food and music. 97 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 5: I would like play Puerto Rican Christmas music. I was like, oh, 98 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 5: I really need to get some paste lists, you know, 99 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: I need to find somebody that makes this like Puerto 100 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 5: Rican Tamali's like, I really need to eat this because 101 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 5: you know, it just makes my heart happy. 102 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty, she feels lucky that she'll be able 103 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 4: to be back in Puerto Rico for the holidays. 104 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 5: It's definitely gonna be a different kind of Christmas because 105 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: we're gonna go there and quarantine and take all the percussions. 106 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 5: You know, my mom wants me to go to her 107 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 5: house right away, and it's like, no, Mom, I'm sorry. 108 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 5: You know, like we need to take care of you, 109 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 5: you know, and be considerate. 110 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: Maria says this Christmas will be pretty mellow and that 111 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 4: there will be a lot of social distancing, but she's 112 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: still looking forward to going back to her homeland. 113 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 5: You know, there's there's something in me, like like Asa Bourriqua, 114 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: living in the diaspora, that it's kind of like I 115 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 5: need that little like recharge of being in my land, 116 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 5: you know, it kind of like feeds my internal battery 117 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 5: so that I can keep going in life. 118 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: During the pandemic, Maria has lost work as an acupuncturist, 119 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: but COVID nineteen has allowed her to really focus on 120 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: her music. That includes dropping her latest single, Urakhan and 121 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 4: finishing up her first album. Creating music has been a 122 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: lifesaver for her during these last few months. It's a 123 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: louder to heal work through shame and insecurities. When Maria 124 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: isn't working on her craft, she's listening to other people's 125 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: music because it's a release for her. 126 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 5: When I need to shake things off, I'll just put 127 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 5: on some music, and you know, I start perando in Michelcina, 128 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 5: you know. 129 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: And when she starts to feel alone because she can't 130 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: physically be at home with her family, she turns up 131 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: some music that reminds her of Puerto Rico to help 132 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,119 Speaker 4: her feel more connected. 133 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: Healthcare professionals are used to working during the holidays, even 134 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: more so this year as COVID nineteen cases keeps surging 135 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: across the country. Editor Marta Martinez spoke with a Venezuelan 136 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: doctor who lives in Cleveland, Ohio, And here's Martha with 137 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: that story. 138 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 6: Salvador Naararette is about to finish his twelve hour shift 139 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 6: at Cleveland clinic. We speak on the phone. Well, he's 140 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 6: on a break. He wears white scraps and the fluorescent 141 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 6: light in the room highlights the shadows under his eyes. 142 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 7: You know, we usually work between sixty and seventy hours 143 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 7: a week average, and then within the last two or 144 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 7: three weeks with the racing cases of the COVID we've 145 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,479 Speaker 7: been having a rearrangement of duties. 146 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 6: Salvador will be graduating from medical school in June. Back 147 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 6: in Venezuela, where he's from, Salvador was a surgeon for 148 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 6: eight years. 149 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 7: With the situation in Venezuela and all the you know, 150 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 7: the racing crime rate, the decreasing economic freedom that we 151 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 7: experienced there, we decided to move here to the States. 152 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 7: So in order to get the full license here as 153 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 7: a surgeon, you need to do residency again. 154 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 6: Going back to medical school was hard for him, and 155 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 6: even more so in a foreign country with a little child. 156 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 8: We took a hit with a winter definitely. 157 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 7: That was especially the winter here in Cleveland, which is 158 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 7: super hard, you know, with probably seventy percent of the 159 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 7: days being gray and you know, short of light. But 160 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 7: now you adapt, you know, and then there's some good 161 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 7: things about winter, just a few, but there's some there. 162 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 6: Being a student again also meant working most holidays. For 163 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 6: the first three years, sal about or missed most Christmas celebrations, 164 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 6: but he had a lot of family support. 165 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 7: Long story short, My mom came from Spain. My sister, 166 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 7: who at that time was living in New York also came, 167 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 7: so they made those Christmas days better for me, but 168 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 7: definitely was It was very tough. And then on top 169 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 7: of that, Michelle, my wife, her whole family was back 170 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 7: home in Caracas, you know, having a hard time with 171 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 7: all this economical situation. So it was definitely definitely hard 172 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:59,359 Speaker 7: for everybody. 173 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 6: Time it got a little bit easier, they bought a 174 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 6: small house and started to feel at home. They had 175 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 6: two more children in the US. But as a healthcare professional, 176 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 6: you get used to having to work during those special days. 177 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 6: Salvador says. 178 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 7: You usually start working at six am, and then that 179 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 7: moment where you know you're taking a shower, you grab 180 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 7: a cup of coffee, and you said, crap, I'm going 181 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 7: on the twenty fourth and I won't be with the kids. 182 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 7: So those twenty minutes before home and the hospitals where 183 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 7: you think about it. But once you start working, it's 184 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 7: you know, it's so busy that you know hours fly 185 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 7: and the day goes by so quick you don't even notice. 186 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 7: I think the people on the other side, like my 187 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 7: kids and my wife, they suffer more because they're kind 188 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 7: of enjoying the dinner and stuff and I'm not there 189 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 7: right But but you really don't don't feel it that 190 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 7: much while you're working. 191 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 6: This year, for the first time, Salvador will be able 192 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 6: to spend Christmas Eve and Christmas Day with his family. 193 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 6: Even got New Year's Eve off, which is a miracle, 194 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 6: he says. But this year, because of COVID, it will 195 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 6: only be the five of them celebrating. Very different from 196 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 6: the way they celebrated the holidays in Venezuela back home. 197 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 7: You know, Venezuelan people like to party, were very joy people. 198 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 7: You start celebrating probably from the first or second week 199 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 7: of December. We have like the typical music that we 200 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 7: listen in this in this season. It's usually from the 201 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 7: west side of the country, which we call Guidas. We 202 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 7: do have some special dishes for Christmas. We have the ayaka, 203 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 7: which is a classic. It's a salty pastry made of 204 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 7: corn flour and then it's filled up with pork or beef. 205 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 6: The family plans to cook a traditional Venezuela and dinner 206 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:01,239 Speaker 6: this Christmas. Salvador's favorite dish is in salada degaina. 207 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 8: Russian salad with chicken. I really love it. I like mayonnaise. 208 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 7: I know there is not very healthy, but I love 209 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 7: it so I really like the salad for my wife. 210 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 8: The favorite is the ajaka. 211 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 6: Salvator hopes that he won't get any emergency calls on 212 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 6: Christmas Day, but that's always a possibility. 213 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 7: But yeah, the fact that you're used to it, and 214 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 7: then also your family is used to you know, see 215 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 7: you living for a call, and that probably makes things 216 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 7: less harder. 217 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 8: But also the fact that we've been migrating. 218 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 7: You know, I'm the third generation of immigrants, which looks 219 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 7: you know, it feels crazy. So we've been immigrants for 220 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 7: so long that you're used to, you know, spend some Christmas. 221 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 8: Without your significant others. 222 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 7: And definitely the fact that the technology is advancing and 223 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 7: you have FaceTime and all these things, and then at 224 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 7: least you can see them and then talk to them 225 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 7: and have a little bit of that you know, that heat, 226 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 7: that worm, that family gives you this and these days. 227 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 6: For Salvador, Christmas is all about making his children happy 228 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 6: and being together as a family. He says that seeing 229 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 6: them grow up in a safe place and guaranteeing a 230 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 6: better future for them made it all worth it. 231 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: Coming up on Latino USA, we learn more about what 232 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: Christmas is like when you're undocumented and how refugees who 233 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: are asking for asylum in the US are spending the 234 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: holidays while they're forced to wait in Mexico. Stay with us, 235 00:14:34,760 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: plat vayous hey, We're back and for this socially distant 236 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: Christmas special, we're learning from Latinos and Latinas who have 237 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: a lot of experience about spending the holidays away from 238 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: their families. For many people, the COVID nineteen pandemic presented 239 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: a problem that they'd never encountered before, not being able 240 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: to travel home for the holidays, But for undocumented people, 241 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: not being able to take a plane or across the 242 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: border is reality. Our Latino USA intern Emil Sekiros brings 243 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: us this story from the Napa Valley. 244 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 9: For Arlenkrea Valencia, an undocumented artist, traveling out of the 245 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 9: United States is something she hasn't been able to do 246 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 9: for more than twenty years. 247 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 10: Last night, I was sharing with my father, like I 248 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 10: said to him, you know, for the first time, people 249 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 10: get to see a little bit of what we feel 250 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 10: and how we have to live. And he just like 251 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 10: chuckled to himself and he said, you know, don't get tendan. 252 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: They'll never understand. 253 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 9: Boarding Mitwakan, Mexico. Arlene immigrated to the United States with 254 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 9: her family when she was just three years old and 255 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 9: ended up in Neaple Valley, California. Arlene is an award 256 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 9: winning artist. A lot of her artwork revolves around immigration 257 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 9: and separation. As an undocumented person, Arlene has had to 258 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 9: deal with the fact that she might never see her 259 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 9: extended family in this lifetime, let alone during this pandemic. 260 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 10: I think it's always been really devastating not being able 261 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 10: to connect with our family and at least not being 262 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 10: able to share that space together. 263 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 9: But for the first time ever, she feels that everyone 264 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 9: else is getting to experience a little bit of what 265 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 9: it's like to live as an undocumented person. 266 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 10: The citizens and people who have the freedom to travel 267 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 10: and to go places truly understand because even though we 268 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 10: are in these lockdowns and limiting all sorts of socialization, 269 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 10: there's still a sense of freedom, whereas for us there's 270 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 10: absolutely none of that. But if I had to put 271 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 10: a percentage to it, it's only ten percent of what 272 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 10: the actual feelings of being undocumented are. But in a 273 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 10: way it's a blessing because it allows us to tap 274 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 10: into our emotions of empathy and maybe some sort of 275 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 10: understanding the ways in which we're living. 276 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 9: Arlene says that this reality has forced her and her 277 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 9: family to live in the moment and value the small things. 278 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 9: Even on Christmas, the only thing that matters to them 279 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 9: is a simple act of being together. 280 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 10: Growing up as a child, things were really tight and 281 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 10: presents were never guaranteed, and we just grew up knowing 282 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 10: that that was not our reality. So it wasn't an 283 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 10: expectation that, you know, there would be a bicycle in 284 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 10: the tree or anything like that. And now as we 285 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 10: are older, we really appreciate just the fact that we're together. 286 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 10: And so when Christmas comes around, as long as all 287 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 10: of my whole family is sitting in the living room 288 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 10: having a cup of Cafe Canella, we're all good, and 289 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 10: that's what it's all about. 290 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 4: She says. 291 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 9: She wishes people didn't take the technology that we have 292 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 9: today for granted. 293 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 10: Because I remember the first time that my dad was 294 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 10: able to jump in on FaceTime with his brother who 295 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 10: he hasn't seen in over twenty years, and it was 296 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 10: so magical and so beautiful to just see his face 297 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 10: light up and to be able to look into his 298 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 10: brother's eyes I think we take for granted zoom and 299 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 10: FaceTime and all of these things that allow us to 300 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 10: stay connected, and we want more, right, We want better speeds, 301 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 10: we want better connection. We hate when there's a little 302 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 10: bit of a lag, but as in documented people, we 303 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 10: will take the lag and the low speeds all day 304 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 10: just to be able to make a connection with our family. 305 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 9: But this Christmas season is going to be different for 306 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 9: the Gorrea family as well. 307 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 10: My father has been recently diagnosed with some health issue 308 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 10: use and we don't want to expose him to the 309 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 10: potential of getting sick. And my mother too, she's also 310 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 10: not doing very well, and so we're just you know, 311 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 10: being extra extra cautious because one of the nuances of 312 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 10: being undocumented is that you always have to figure out 313 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 10: how to take care of yourself without healthcare system. So 314 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 10: we're really fearful that if anyone, anyone in our family 315 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 10: was exposed to COVID, we would not have access to 316 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 10: healthcare or have the means to be able to access 317 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 10: an er if we needed to. So I'm a little devastated, 318 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 10: but like I said, super grateful that for now my 319 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 10: parents and my family are okay. And if that means 320 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 10: not being able to see them for the holiday, then 321 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 10: that that's the sacrifice that we're willing to make. 322 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: And our final stop in our Christmas Special is the 323 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: border town of Matamoros, Mexico. Renaldo Leans Junior spoke to 324 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: an asylum seeker who's trying to form a community this 325 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: holiday season. Here's Renaldo with that story. 326 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: A group of people gather near the kitchen of this 327 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 4: small apartment in Matamoros. They're planning on making a warm, 328 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 4: home cooked meal and preparing to celebrate this Christmas holidays. 329 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: They're all members of the LGBTQ community and are seeking 330 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: asylum in the US. 331 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 7: Leave the. 332 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 11: Kissing and Esperez if iams. 333 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 4: That's he's a gay man from Guatemala and he's been 334 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 4: waiting in Mexico for more than a year now. This 335 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: will be his second Christmas in Matamoros. He says, this 336 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 4: place isn't just an apartment, it's a shelter. He helped 337 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: create it as part of its organization, Rainbow Bridge. If 338 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: saw the need for a safe and dignified space for 339 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 4: the members of the LGBTQ community like him who were 340 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 4: placed into the Trump administration's migrant protection protocols. Program and 341 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 4: were sent to Mexico to wait for months. Human Rights 342 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 4: First says there have been more than a thousand reported 343 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: violent attacks against migrants who were sent to Mexico under 344 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 4: MPP and that LGBTQ migrants are a vulnerable population. 345 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 11: Joyege Principios de Julio del Doos mil di Navian Organiza 346 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 11: no exists. 347 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 4: He arrived at the border in July of twenty nineteen, 348 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: when there weren't many organizations helping asylum seekers in the 349 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: MPP program. He was alone and had nowhere to go. 350 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 11: Krnosco and Carne Propia loke is is the process. 351 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 4: If says he knows exactly what this group of LGBTQ 352 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 4: asylum seekers are going through and he's happy he can 353 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 4: help make their lives a little easier. MPP hearings have 354 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: been indefinitely suspended because of the pandemic. This means many 355 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 4: migrants on the border won't be spending the holidays with 356 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: their loved ones. For this will also be the second 357 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: Christmas away from his partner of more than nine years, 358 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 4: who is back in Whatmala. Being a part has been 359 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: very difficult for both of them. 360 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 8: Asido is. 361 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 11: Mos Junto and Nocido defaced. 362 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 4: Back in what his partner spend a lot of time together. 363 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 4: They didn't live together, but they saw each other every 364 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 4: day and they even worked together last year. He really 365 00:22:52,760 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: missed his partner during the holidays. Last Christmas in New Year, 366 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: he didn't celebrate at all, and he didn't see anybody. 367 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: Growing up, had a complicated relationship with his parents because 368 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 4: of his sexuality in he said, at some point they 369 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: even physically attacked him and he had to leave home 370 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: for a while, and then his parents forced him to 371 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 4: go to conversion therapy at a local church. So the 372 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 4: holidays weren't really something got much joy from. 373 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 11: In Central America familiaries. He Los Membrosnasla. 374 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 4: The holidays back in Central America are usually family celebrations, 375 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: but members of the l g B t Q plus 376 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: community often suffer because they have to meet with family 377 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: members who usually don't accept them. He hopes a community 378 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: he's brought together here at the shelter will make the 379 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: holidays feel a little less lonely for everyone this year. 380 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 4: There's also something or someone that is is cautiously optimistic 381 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: Aboutels says before COVID nineteen, his boyfriend was about to 382 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 4: get his Mexican visa renewed so that his partner could 383 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 4: visit him, but then the pandemic unfolded and he wasn't 384 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: allowed to travel. Recently, his partner had a meeting at 385 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 4: the Mexican embassy, so it's possible that he'll be able 386 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: to join him in Matamotos for Christmas and the New year. 387 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 11: Jundo's Compartia. 388 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 4: He says that if his partner is able to come to Matamotos, 389 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 4: they'll for sure spend time together and be able to 390 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 4: celebrate the holidays. With the new US administration in the 391 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 4: near horizons, of the hopes that this will be the 392 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: last Christmas he spends in Matamoros, but he knows changes 393 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 4: won't happen overnight. When it comes to coping with the 394 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: holidays away from your loved ones, it's what the recommends. 395 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 11: Staying positive, Commander is cisandering Soosias Lamore in a pass 396 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 11: personas cola cosa. 397 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 4: Posively. It's one of those focused on the love and 398 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: pieces that you have with the people around you and 399 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 4: your family and look at things from a perspective that's 400 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: as positive as possible. Musician Maria Jose Montijo's advice is 401 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 4: to pay attention to your mental health. 402 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, these months have been really, really rough. I think 403 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 5: my general sentiment is that you know, if you're alive 404 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 5: and you're like healthy, like just celebrate that, you know. 405 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: I don't think it's a time to like be hard 406 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 5: on I sives. It's so important to co evate some 407 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 5: compassion for ourselves and for our coping mechanisms. 408 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 4: For Salva Navarete, the Venezuelan doctor, the most important thing 409 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: is feeling at home wherever you are. 410 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 7: If you had a Christmas tree at home, if you 411 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 7: had some music that you'd like, something like that, So 412 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 7: make sure you have it on those days, right so 413 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 7: you can close your eyes and transport your mind and say, okay, listen, 414 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 7: I have the smell of the Christmas tree, or maybe. 415 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 8: The smell of a special dish. 416 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: And don't underestimate what you already have, which is already 417 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 4: a lot, says undocumented artists Arlene Corea Valencia. 418 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 10: Hold space to be grateful for what you do have. 419 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 10: I know it seems like this will never be over, 420 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 10: and we might be in this COVID lockdown or sheltering 421 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 10: in place for a long time. But the truth is 422 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 10: that life will return for all of you and for everyone, 423 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 10: and we will get back to our normal patterns. 424 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for all of your messages. Happy 425 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: holidays and felices fiestas to each and every one of you, 426 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: and our very best wishes for twenty twenty one, because 427 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: aren't you ready for a new year? I know I am. 428 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening. 429 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Reinaldo Leanos Junior and Emili 430 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: Sequiros and edited by Marta Martinez. The Latino USA team 431 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: includes Miel Massis, i'm Re Lopes Crusado, Julieta Martinelli, Alisa Escarce, 432 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: Gini Montalvo, and Alejandra Salasad with help from Rol Prees. 433 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: Our engineers are Stephanie Lebo, Julia Caruso and Lia Shaw, 434 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: with help from Alishiba YouTube. 435 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 4: Our digital editor. 436 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: Is Luis Luna. Our New York Women's Foundation Ignite fellow 437 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: is Julia Rocha. This week we say goodbye to our 438 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: interns Jimena del Serro, Emil se Quiros and Cabrie La Bayez. Hey, 439 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: you did great work as interns during a pandemic. It 440 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: will be unforgettable for you and for us who chas 441 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: gracias for all of your hard work and congratulations. Our 442 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: theme music was composed by Saniel Robinos. If you like 443 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: the music you heard on this episode, stop by Latinousa 444 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: dot org and check out our weekly Spotify playlist. I'm 445 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: your host and executive producer Marie Nokosa. Join us again 446 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: on our next episode, and in the meantime, look for 447 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: us on all of your social media. I knows bemos Felicidades. 448 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 12: By Latino USA is made possible in part by W. K. 449 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 12: Kellogg Foundation, a partner with communities where Children Come First. 450 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 12: The John D. And Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation and the 451 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 12: Annie Casey Foundation creates a brighter future for the nation's 452 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 12: children by strengthening families, building greater economic opportunity, and transforming communities. 453 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 8: You know, I remember the melodies, I cannot recall the names. Well, 454 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 8: you can sing it for me. No, that's definitely I 455 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 8: need a glass of wine for sure for that. 456 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: But like Maria jo Josa next time on Latin USA. 457 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: Despite no physical evidence, an alibi, and recanted witness testimony, 458 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: JJ Velaskis has been in jail for twenty two years 459 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: for a crime. The evidence suggests he did not commit 460 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: the story of jj velaskis. 461 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 9: When you're innocent, you're like the worst position to represent 462 00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 9: yourself next time. 463 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 4: On letting the USA