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Coming 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: up on taking stock, a look at North Carolina and discrimination. 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: The North Carolina Governor Pat mccruary saying yesterday that the 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: sweeping anti LGBT bill that he signed into law was 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: never about discriminating against people based on their sexual orientation 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: or gender identity. Well, it may not have been his intention, 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: but many businesses, including PayPal Holdings and Deutsche Bank, have 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: said that they are not going to expand will not 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: include businesses in their future plans. Right now in North Carolina, 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: we'll be talking about this. Uh. Coming up on taking stock, 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: first to Catherine Countering the Bloomberg Newsroom. Thank you, Kathleen, 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: and Bloomber. Taking stock is brought to by Sector Spider 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: e t S. Why by a single stock when you 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: can invest in the entire sector? Visit sector spdrs dot 19 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: com or call one six six sector et S stocks 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: are declining. The S and P five hundred is headed 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 1: for a three week low. Mixed economic reports are weighing 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: on the market. One report showed service companies expanded in 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: April at the fastest pace in four months. Another from 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: the Favrell's Processor a DP showed companies higher fewer workers 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: in April than estimated. Jason Shanker, chief economists at Prestige Economics, 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: says that a DP number doesn't surprise him because he 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: thinks the labor markets will start slowing. The problem is 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: that the mix of jobs is shifting away from household 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: formation jobs. You've had a lot of WS is an 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: oil and gas and manufacturing jobs, and so the job 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: that you're you know you're filling in with are not 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: sustainable I think for new household formation. And I think 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons in March is housing starts, 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: building permits, and new home sales all go down, even 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: though the back into the yield. Kurt Felt, we check 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: the markets every fifteen minutes throughout the trading day of 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Down industrial average is down one hundred five 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: points six tents of a percent is trading at seventeen thousand, 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: six hundred forty six SMP five hundred, down thirteen points 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: six tenths of a percent of two thousand fifty then 41 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: has backed down thirty five points three quarters of a 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: percent to forty seven twenty seven. West Texas intermediate crude 43 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: oil up twenty cents of barrel to eight five spot 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: gold down ten dollars ten cent c nce at twelve 45 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: seventy ten year treasury of five thirty seconds with the 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: yield of one point seven seven percent. And now if 47 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: for a look at some of the other stories were 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: following today. I'm Bloomberg Radio. Thank you Catherine from the 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg newsroom. I'm Ramie in essentio. This news update is 50 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: brought to you by the jeep Grand Cherokee, the most 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: awarded suv ever. The Grand Cherokee continues to raise the 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: bar with its luxurious interior and legendary four by four capability. 53 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: Drive one at your local G dealer today. 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Thank you, 80 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: and now let's get a quick update of the equity benchmark. 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Stale Industrial averages down ninety eight points at seventeen thousand, 82 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: sixty two s and p f I founded down twelve 83 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: point at two thousand fifty one. The nastack is down 84 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: thirty six points at forty seven seven. And that's a 85 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: Bloomberg business flash. You're listening to Taking Stock with Kathleen 86 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: Hays and Pim Box on Bloomberg Radio. Lord John Brown 87 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: is the executive chairman of l One Energy. He's the 88 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: former chief the executive of BP. But he is much 89 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: more than just those two titles. He is also the 90 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: author of a book, The Glass Closet, Why Coming Out 91 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: Is Good for Business. He is also the co author 92 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: of Connect and Lord John Brown joins us now from London. 93 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: Lord Brown, thank you very much for being with us. 94 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I want to begin by 95 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: just stating that you have spoken recently about the events 96 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: regarding your departure from BP, and also why you chose 97 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: to stay in the closet for much of your life, 98 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: and also the way in which the world has changed 99 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: in recent years with regard to LGBT issues. Uh, I 100 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: wondering if you could speak to your particular experience and 101 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: perhaps connected to what is going on currently in North 102 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: Carolina many. I'm sure you know the news about PayPal 103 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: and Deutsche Bank saying that's not where they want to 104 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: be expanding absolutely well. I, as you know, I was. 105 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm a child of the forties, and when I was 106 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: growing up, being gay was first illegal here in the 107 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: UK and secondly not a way you could really do 108 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: anything in society. But more importantly, I had a mother 109 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: who was a survivor from Auschwitz, and she taught me 110 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: a couple of lessons which lived with me and kept 111 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: me in the closet. The first was never tell anyone 112 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: a secret because they are used against you. And secondly, 113 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: never be an identified member of minority, because when the 114 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: going gets tough, the majority always had the minority. And 115 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: I think it's that point that I'd actually pick out 116 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: for North Carolina and one or two other places in 117 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: the US. Clearly, when the majority feel that the under 118 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: threatened anywhere at all, majorities tend to turn on minorities. 119 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: Lord Brown and interviewing. When your book first came out, 120 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: it's a great book, and it's a very uh it's 121 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: almost a management book in some ways, because a very 122 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: passionate argument for being your authentic self at work. And 123 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that. But in regards the 124 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: specific question of North Carolina, this legislation the government governor 125 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: now claiming had nothing to do with being anti gay 126 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: or transcender. It had to do with privacy. Are there 127 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: cultural shifts that need to be respected or do people 128 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: just have to realize they've got to get on board 129 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: To a large extent, A lot of this to me 130 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: seems to be generational. But you know, the younger generation 131 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: is much more accepting of differences when it comes to gender, 132 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: raise so many things. Older generations did not grow up 133 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: this way. They're less so I think that is true. 134 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: There were many different standards of behavior, if you will, 135 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: and what was regarded as acceptable and unacceptable in the past, 136 00:07:54,840 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: and indeed succeeding generations have changed that over time. To me, 137 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: the most important saying that people have I believe everywhere 138 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: in the world trying to struggle with is how to 139 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: be how to include people, how to bring them in 140 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: rather than push them away exclude them. In business, this 141 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: is one of the most important things you have to do, 142 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: whether it is with the team you're building, or whether 143 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: it's customers or communities you're working with. And the reasons 144 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: for that is inclusive teams. Inclusive businesses actually work better, 145 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: they make more money, they make higher profits that can 146 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: be proved by studies. Uh. And that because they're including 147 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: people and they're passionately giving them some passion to go forward, 148 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: rather than making them stand outside a team. So I 149 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: think that is beginning to change. I am aside be concerned. 150 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: I have to say with many young people who come 151 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: into corporate life while they've been openly gay at university, 152 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: they go straight back into the closset when they come 153 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: into business because they feel that it's an item which 154 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: might get into the way of getting the way of 155 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: their advancement. Lord Brown, you were chief executive a BP 156 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: from to two thousand seven. You have advised five prime 157 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: ministers and built a reputation as a leader um in 158 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: doing in doing all those things and then writing this book, 159 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: Have there been any reaction from people who you thought 160 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: were friends who became even better friends to you, or 161 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: people that then reacted in a way that you thought 162 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: you were surprised by. The curious thing I think to 163 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: me was when I came out, I actually thought that 164 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: I'd lose most of my friends, I'd got lose respect 165 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: in business, people would cross the street to avoid me, 166 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: and actually the reverse happened. I had a vast amount 167 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: of support, and over the period from two thousand and seven, 168 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: I've been making new and different friends, people who want 169 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: a debate not only issues to do with LGBT inclusion, 170 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: but also their impact on human rights and the rights 171 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: of people to be themselves in societies which are very complex, 172 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: not only the US and Canada and the Europe and 173 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: the UK, but also around the world. And so it's 174 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: it's something quite different has happened, and I think they 175 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: will do respect people being themselves. Thank you very much 176 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: for being yourself with us. Lord John Brown, executive chairman 177 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: of l One Energy, form A, chief executive of BP, 178 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: the author of The Glass Closet. While coming out is 179 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: good for business, you're listening to taking stark, I'm pim 180 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: Fox My co host Kathleen Hayes, and This is Bloomberg 181 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Radio coming up on taking stock. Roger mcmeee, founding partner 182 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: of the venture capital firm Elevation Partners, talks about Facebook, Apple, 183 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: and cannabis.