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Speaker 1: Hello, my gorgeous little villains or seductors. Whenever you were

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Speaker 1: for Halloween. How was your Halloween? Jest?

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Speaker 2: My Halloween was so good. But now it's November two,

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Speaker 2: so all I can think about is Christmas. But my

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Speaker 2: Halloween was great?

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Speaker 1: What did you do? I never think about Halloween, even

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Speaker 1: on Hallow.

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Speaker 2: You don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. Yeah, the dressing up for me

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Speaker 1: is like torture. Is seductor a word? Seductor?

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Speaker 2: I feel like it is, because what would it be

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Speaker 2: like seductee yeah, seductress. I don't know, seductress. It's probably

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Speaker 2: that it's probably that you looked awesome.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't. Well, Logan comes over because Schroeder told

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Speaker 1: me that she's having a Halloween party. Okay for me,

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Speaker 1: I remember like, yes, you're having a Halloween party, but

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Speaker 1: I just assumed like Hartford would be in bed. Yeah, no, kids,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring my ass out because she deserves a moment.

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Speaker 2: I know you said to me, you're like sexy adult

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Speaker 2: Halloween party. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, there were definitely children there and Jeremiah, one of

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Speaker 1: our producers with Sareny and his kids, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: Wait because your ass was out.

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Speaker 1: And it was like, laala, I've known you for a

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Speaker 1: really long time. I would never expect you to show

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Speaker 2: So I thought it looked amazing. You were the joker?

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Speaker 2: Is that what it was?

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Speaker 1: No, you were refereen.

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Speaker 2: Oh you were? You can I can't.

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Speaker 1: People were like, are you supposed to be a sexy inmate?

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Speaker 1: I was like no, so I was supposed to be Beetlejuice.

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Speaker 1: But because I don't like Halloween, didn't try it on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it comes with the green bay. I put it on,

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Speaker 1: was like a nerve, Hell no, will you can in

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Speaker 1: that streets with this wig on? So Logan was over.

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Speaker 1: I put it on and we were both like nerd, nerd,

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Speaker 1: absolutely not I take it off. I was like, fuck this,

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing street clothes and he was like, no, just

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Speaker 1: wear the costume with your hair normal. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I haven't washed my hair in like six days. So

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Speaker 1: it was like put it up and I was like,

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Speaker 1: thank god we got the earpinned back for moments like yes,

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Speaker 2: You know that's my favorite hairstyle when you do the

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Speaker 2: top bun with the banks. Yeah, it's like Pam Anderson.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's something. It gives something that it was.

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Speaker 1: Giving whatever here I am. I don't care. Like the

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Speaker 1: last time I dressed up for Halloween, I was twenty

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Speaker 1: one years old. I wore a blue like eminem costumes.

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Speaker 2: When it was a big round one, yes, not a

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Speaker 1: And it was from when I was a little kid.

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Speaker 1: It just happened to fit's still a little shorter. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think my ask may have been out then.

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Speaker 2: To okay, so it was somewhat sexy.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the foot covering is like the big

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Speaker 2: That's funny.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome and I never I haven't dressed up

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Speaker 1: since then until this year, and this was a reminder

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Speaker 1: that I'm never doing it again. Yeah, until Ocean expresses

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Speaker 1: interest in her mom dressing up for Halloween. When Ocean like,

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Speaker 1: if Ocean loves Halloween and she wants me to dress up,

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Speaker 1: then I totally will do it. But until them, like

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Speaker 2: Ner, well, I know today we're recording this on Halloween,

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Speaker 2: but did are you going to take her trick or

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Speaker 2: treating or do you think? I mean, she doesn't really

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Speaker 2: eat candy, so don't you.

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Speaker 1: Well, if she's with her Gigi, she consumes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sugar. I was like, fucking stop it, mom, what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? But that's the corner of my eye,

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Speaker 1: like slipping her calling candy. I'm like, enough enough of

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Speaker 2: That's what grandparents are for. I know.

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Speaker 1: But my mom lives with me. Yeah, so it's in

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Speaker 2: Right, Like, why am I gonna eat this green stuff

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Speaker 2: when they're cotton candy exists?

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Speaker 2: You know? Right, So you're not gonna take her trigger tree, I.

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Speaker 1: that when they're like two to two and a half

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Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna do. Cute. Yeah. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this weekend, great ass was out totally fine, failed on

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Speaker 1: How has the Weird Weird whatever?

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Speaker 2: It's called a weird emo concert?

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Speaker 2: I got dms being like, what did Laala say about

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Speaker 2: this when you told her you were going. I was like,

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Speaker 2: she said, I have no idea any of those bands

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Speaker 2: but I don't know if that was planned and she

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Speaker 2: We Were Young Fest in Vegas. It was everything I

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Speaker 2: going to be unorganized. That scared me for you, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is the first year they're doing it.

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Speaker 2: They're probably gonna run out of merch, run out of food,

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Speaker 2: Go literally packed, it was packed. There were a couple

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Speaker 2: times where I was standing in the crowd because Kyle

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Speaker 2: and be like that is not a hardcore band. But

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Speaker 2: of times I told Kyle because we were upfront, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, we gotta we gotta go in the back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I saw your story this morning. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: It would have been your nightmare to be.

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Speaker 1: It looked like my nightmare. It looks like my nightmare.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean overall, obviously, overall, we were safe

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Speaker 2: got to see Paramore my chemical romance and I was

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Speaker 1: I know one, I know one, param what's that song? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I chimed in with the haven't you people I love

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Speaker 1: that song? Wait, no, that's panic at the discos and

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Speaker 1: everyone what's the song that everyone knows a paramore.

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Speaker 2: I love that song. I chimed in, that's a great paramo.

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Speaker 2: Knows, the one that everyone knows. I guess it's probably

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Speaker 2: like Misery Business, that's the one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yep, yep yep. So there's that. Also, did

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Speaker 1: you see Kyle Richard's Lady Gun Shoot?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 1: No, when I heard of Lady Gun before? No, I

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Speaker 1: I did a shoot for them, Like I want to say,

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Speaker 1: I hadn't even I don't even think I had been

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Speaker 1: So this shows how long ago it was. And I

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Speaker 1: wanted to like post my Lady Gun photos because I

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Speaker 1: Because then I was like, this is attension seeking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Like in honor of Kyle Richard's Lady Gun Shoot, here's mine.

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Speaker 2: Do you have them? Because at one we should post

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Speaker 1: And I have a little baby face. It was before

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Speaker 2: Had the round babyface, that round and drinking so I

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Speaker 1: I don't think I had fully fully submersed myself into

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Speaker 1: on our way. Is that a word submerse? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm immersed, immersed and submerge is immersed a word immerse? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Did her lady Gun?

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Speaker 1: She looked snatched? Did she looked freaking hot? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Immersed is dip or submerge in a liquor?

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Speaker 2: I did, and I still don't know these words. Submerge

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Speaker 2: you're listening to this, which you obviously are, you would

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Speaker 1: They're really cute on the podcast in Sexie, Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I love it. Twenty three, twenty four, just freaking snatch.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I was a little older than that. I can't remember. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: I had a date night with with Katie over the

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Speaker 1: valley and everyone was on a date and had a partner. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: So we were looking at each other like, well, this

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Speaker 1: when we're talking to new dudes, we like will send

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Speaker 1: each other like their Instagram handles you have to. And

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Speaker 1: I told her I just don't think my type of guy,

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Speaker 1: just my type. Because She's like, I want to take

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Speaker 1: you to Silver Lake and I was like, my type

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Speaker 1: of guy don't exist in silver Lake.

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Speaker 2: That's true. I think Katie's type what I know of

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Speaker 2: Katie exist, her type exists in Silver Lake.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So you want to know what her comeback was?

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Speaker 1: We need to reevaluate your type of guy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, what do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: Stupid? Like, I don't know, it's stupid in a way. Probably, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I love a dude who's emotionally unavailable. Okay, Yes, I

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Speaker 1: love a guy who goes to me plenty of those

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Speaker 1: in Silver Lake. You can tell you that much like

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Yeah, love a guy

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Speaker 1: who's like not really around that much. But then I'm

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Speaker 2: When you say this is what I want? Do you

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Speaker 2: say those things? Are you saying? This is what I want?

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Speaker 2: Someone emotionally available, all the things that you're not actually.

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Speaker 1: All of the things that I say I want. I

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Speaker 1: go for dudes who are the opposite of that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you want.

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Speaker 1: I would like a guy who's very simple. I want consistency,

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Speaker 1: What more could you ask for? What more?

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Speaker 1: Are you watching any Real Housewives? I'm the worst person.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, which the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Where's the drama?

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Speaker 1: Where's the drama? Where's the feisty? You may not dig her,

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Speaker 1: The victims. Yes, okay, that's careful with that fucking worder. Yeah, careful,

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Speaker 2: Not Yeah, and do you think I do have a couple?

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Speaker 2: Okay. And number two, do you think Kathy, like you

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Speaker 1: I think some people think they're above things. Okay, this

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's really good advice. You should write a book on that,

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Speaker 4: Seriously, because I think of all the reality TV that's

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Speaker 2: No, but you're saying you kind of go up and down,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not everyone. No, I could never. I would be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, Gara, What I mean, Garcel? That mister Bubbs

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Speaker 1: She's a fan favorite. She always will be because she

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, I don't wait to see it because

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00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 1: I love it so much. And I and I know,

436
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: like even when I watch for example, Derinda Medley and

437
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: her clip clipped, and I know that feeling when you're

438
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: in scene and you're like, because that's just who we are,

439
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: that's why we're on a show. Yeah, I just I'm like,

440
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't fuck with you, bitchy, but like I can't

441
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: wait to see that shit.

442
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 2: Yes, no, that's exciting. And we haven't talked since the

443
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: opening titles? How did it go? I know you can't

444
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: talk about a ton, but obviously, for anyone who doesn't know,

445
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 2: opening titles are the opening titles, they're the.

446
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: Iconic, iconic. It's completely different than what people are used to.

447
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: Okay, you looked incredible and you posted a photos fucking amazing.

448
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: Well thank god Katie took photos and then I asked

449
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: her because she was like, I'm gonna post and I

450
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: was like, I have no content ever because these bitches

451
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 1: get to it before I do and it's always on

452
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: their phone and I love and I'm like, damn, I

453
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: look good, send them to me and it's for them

454
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: to post. So I said, can you just include me?

455
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, because they do the clap thing.

456
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: Can you just clap me? So she did. But Katie

457
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: and I, by the way, Arianna and Katie looked unbelievable.

458
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: I told Katie the next date you go on like

459
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: this got to be the look. Yes, and she was

460
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: like really with the red lip. I said, no, forget

461
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: fucking red lip that I neutral lip. Get the tits up.

462
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a husband. You look like this, You're

463
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: gonna have a fucking husband. She always looks stunning, but

464
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: this was like a vibe Ariana's makeup. I told her,

465
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: this is the look that you like. This would be

466
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: my go to? Which would be my go to? And

467
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: the colors all looked incredible next to make each other.

468
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: So we start talking as we're waiting to start, and

469
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I just can't wait for this season,

470
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: like Katie and I are planning watch parties and like

471
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: this is the drill. And Ariana was like, I can

472
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: definitely wait. And I said what why? And she was

473
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: talking about how affected she gets when the show starts airing.

474
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: And that's where the fine line comes in because I

475
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: told her stop looking at shit people say to you,

476
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: and she said I can. It's like I seek it out.

477
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: I try to find like mean comments, and I'm like,

478
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: why would anyone want to do that to themselves because

479
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I get a lot of love in the dms,

480
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: like it is few and far between that I'm getting

481
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: people ripping me a new one. I'm sure Ariann has

482
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: looked the same, because for the most part, people are normal.

483
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: There's not just a bunch of psychos in the world

484
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: writing you hate mail. I write no.

485
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: Time on their hair, it's trolls.

486
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, So she's one that gets very affected when

487
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: the season starts airing, will I have a good season?

488
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: What will people say? How will they say? I look

489
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at her, going like, you're one of

490
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: the most beautiful people in that I've ever seen. Yes,

491
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: your body is like if I had that body with

492
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: that ass, Oh, forget it, spandex every fucking day done

493
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,479
Speaker 1: is like I be throwing it bitch night. Yeah. And

494
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: she's just struggling.

495
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: And it's so and it's so sad because she's obviously

496
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: she came on tour and we had dinner together, so

497
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: I got to know her a little over dinner and

498
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're just the chillist bitch.

499
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: I've ever met. Oh, she's so fucking so kind.

500
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: But and then there's these losers that hate themselves at

501
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: home so right, and then they decide. But it's like,

502
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: I wish I could just convince everyone, like literally the

503
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: negative comments or actual losers who hate themselves. Yeah, and

504
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: they're trying to make others feel they have no time

505
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: on their hands. I feel so sad for any of

506
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: their dogs or kids. And I'm just gonna say that

507
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: because so many of them. I click on their profile

508
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: and it's either a little kid in their photo or

509
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: a fucking dog, and I'm like, I feel so bad

510
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: for your dog and your kids to have to live

511
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: with someone like you.

512
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: No, I know I feel the same way, and that

513
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: makes me so sad.

514
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: And they got to affect her, but she won't not

515
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: look at them, and some people just have to see it.

516
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: Some people have to see it, and I hate that

517
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: for her, But I kept telling her, like you are.

518
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's important. This is one thing

519
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: that I think I would change about myself. I can

520
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: build you up to where you think you to where

521
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: you know like you're the baddest thing walking this earth, Right,

522
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: I build a bit chop Right when someone doesn't act

523
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: right and they come for me, I won't make you

524
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: feel good.

525
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 2: But I'm just curious, what would you rather? You would

526
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: rather just be able to turn.

527
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: I'd rather be a Garcel. Oh okay, I'd rather be

528
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: a Garcel above it, above it, and and say how

529
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: you make me feel and that I'm disengaging like a

530
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: Meredith Marx, and instead I decide to just fucking Tornado.

531
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: You're to the crownd. But I'm hoping that that will

532
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: change with age.

533
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it goes back to though.

534
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: Also it is just interesting to watch. Granted, I get

535
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: what you're saying though, because Garcel can do it where

536
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: she's like, I'm disengaging, and it's still like, like I

537
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: feel empowered when I watch it. She does say, yeah,

538
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 2: but there.

539
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: Was this woman who slid in my DM over the weekend.

540
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: All you hate a lot of you hating people are women,

541
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, get your shit's.

542
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: Old, Like she's got to be pushing eighty right, okay,

543
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: And she looked her profile picture looked like like a

544
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: sweet old lady. So I decided to open it. She

545
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: goes off on me because you know, I'm a poster

546
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: bring the motherfucking dogs out, So she blah blah, blah.

547
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: I won't even read the first part. Men look at

548
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: that like what I'm posting, and they don't want what

549
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: they see get me. I'm an old retired executive. See

550
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: even Lily makes no noise. Bring the fucking dogs out

551
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: will get me. I'm an old retired executive that weeded

552
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: my way to the best man out there, every man

553
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: wind and diyed me. Men, see that crazy disrespectful behavior

554
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: makes you look ugly af frfr I assume that means

555
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: for real, for real? Oh, she said, I was you,

556
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: so I told her. I said, Yo, Pam, you think

557
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: I'm worried about what a man sees and thinks. What

558
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: an old school in sad mentality. You coaching me on

559
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: how to stay silent to bag a man? We would

560
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: not get along. You live for the approval of others.

561
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: I live for me. I hope one day you can

562
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: have what I have. It's a shame you don't already

563
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: at your age. She responds, yes, response bring the dogs out, bit, Yes,

564
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: she responds, listen here, Lauren again, Lauren, ain't an insult.

565
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: You guys think it's an insult. It's not. I'm aware

566
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: of my name, but some of you call me Lauren,

567
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: and that is not my name. Yeah, my name is Lauren.

568
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: From fucking Utah. I thought that was like a compliment,

569
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 2: like because you said it at your beauty party. When

570
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: I first You're like, I'm Lauren from Lauren from Utah,

571
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: and I was like, yes, people use that as an insult.

572
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: All the time. People think it's an insult, and it's like,

573
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: it's john if you think that. I just like one

574
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: day was like, I'm gonna be fucking la la Yeah,

575
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: no nickname from my friends actually when I was a

576
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: little kid. Anyway, moving on stupid board, I have been

577
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: married for twenty one years. I drive a Benz, live

578
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: in waterfront at the Jersey Shore. My hubs works for

579
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: the state, and I'm retired. You're reaching for what I

580
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: have already, little Lauren. Remember that. I'm so cressed because

581
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: I know. I know. First of all, let me know

582
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: when you're driving a Rolls Royce and living in fucking

583
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, betch right. First of all, Okay, proud of you,

584
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: very proud you drive a Benz, you're retired, you live

585
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: on Jersey Shore.

586
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: Like that sounds I'm not proud of you.

587
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: So I wrote her back and said again, everything you

588
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: mentioned are things you find self worth in the wrong places.

589
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: You have nothing I want that. She writes a response back.

590
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: It's all fucking stupid what she says. I'm proud of

591
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: you for your bens and your Jersey short waterfunt problems.

592
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: That's Laa being kind. I don't give a fuck about

593
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: any of your shit, like you say. You say I've

594
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: been married for twenty years. There have been women and

595
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: men married for fifty years who have never been more

596
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: miserable in their marriages, right that, like anything, you just

597
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: anything and everything. There are people with the rolls royices,

598
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 2: with the mansions, with the husbands of fifty years, who

599
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: are fucking miserable. And that's exactly what I feel from her.

600
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: Miserable or she wouldn't be messaging you, Pame, your life

601
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: is so great? What are you doing dming lalla about

602
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: a photo she posted or whatever?

603
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: That batch on TV? That's the only reason you know me. Yeah,

604
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: you're fucking welcome. I'm on your TV. I hear a

605
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: beachfront property in Jersey Shore. All right, I'm embarrassed for you. No,

606
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed for her too, because I'm like, you're

607
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: talking about things, which, by the way, I had a

608
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: lot of things. Yeah, I still have a lot of things. Yeah,

609
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: And guess what, I'm no happier now. Actually, I'm a

610
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: lot happier now than I was when I was sitting

611
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: at my parents' house in Utah saying I have big

612
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: dreams and I'll be happy when I accomplished them. Guess what,

613
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: I've accomplished them. And I have had more her oil

614
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: in my life than I've ever had ever. Right, And

615
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: I could go out and buy you know, go get

616
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: a new car. I could go buy a bens pant. Yeah,

617
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: I could do that.

618
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I that's exactly what exactly. You sit here

619
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: and you could go do those things, but you choose

620
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: to do other things with your time. It's like your

621
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: love language's quality time. I guarantee if someone were to

622
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 2: sit you down and say, la, La, did you feel like, oh,

623
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: I'm I'm living big when or I did it when

624
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 2: you got your first Burkeen? Maybe, but it's not like

625
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: to this day you're hanging onto that feeling. If I

626
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: could just get another Burkin, I would have really made

627
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: it Like, No, you have the Burkins, and I'm sure

628
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: it means more to you. You going to a pumpkin

629
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: patch with the ocean. You know what I'm saying. It's

630
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: like yeah.

631
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: I was like, show me something. I learned this in AA.

632
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Surround yourself with people who have what you want, and

633
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: that goes well beyond just sobriety, like when I'm sitting

634
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: in a room. So I went to an AA meeting

635
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: on Friday, and I got my birthday cake because on

636
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: my actual fourth birthday, I had Ocean and I just

637
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to spend time with her. I wanted to

638
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: go and play at Universal. So I went to my

639
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: AA meeting and got my cake, and my sponsor brought

640
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: me my four year chip Cara, thank you.

641
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

642
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: And the speaker had been sober for thirty five years,

643
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: and she said surround yourself with people who have what

644
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: you want. And I was sitting there listening because people

645
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: would introduce themselves and give their amount of time, and

646
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I kept finding myself saying I want that.

647
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: I want thirty five years. Yeah, I want. This woman

648
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: talking about how she stayed sober through the pandemic and

649
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: wanted to like bury herself because she was like, my

650
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: family is driving me fucking insane.

651
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: Feel you.

652
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I was like, I want that. I want to

653
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: be in a house with my family where I'm like,

654
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: you're rubbing me, its fucking my way. But I've been

655
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: sober for eighteen years and you motherfucker are.

656
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: Not going to ruin that for me, you know, Yes, Yes,

657
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: that's the shit that matters.

658
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: Yes, you talking about your things. I don't care. I've

659
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: had so many things, all right. I've been on pj's,

660
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: I've been in twenty five thousand square foot like Ocean

661
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: View Mexican mansions. I have done and had a lot

662
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: of beautiful things in my life that no, I may

663
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: not have paid for. My partner was paying for those things.

664
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that I look around and

665
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, how am I affording to like do what

666
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing right now? It doesn't fucking matter. I want happiness,

667
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: I want freedom, I want self love. I want to

668
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: make a difference in this world. I want to help

669
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: someone who's in a toxic environment be like, you know what,

670
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: I've found strength in that woman. I don't care about

671
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: your bends in your twenty one year relationship, or your

672
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: fucking waterfront Jersey Shore whatever. Yep, come to me with substance.

673
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: Bitch a a fucking men. And let me tell you

674
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: all those all those people who are living their life

675
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: to the fullest and who are happy, are not negatively

676
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: sliding in your DMS. So that's how you know, Pam,

677
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: I'm are you're so We're sorry, you're so miserable, and

678
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: I hope you find happiness because because that is sad.

679
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: That's so sad when people I stop looking at a

680
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: lot of my DMS, and I know it's not I

681
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: couldn't even imagine what you see just from the couple

682
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: of negative comments I see. But literally, when I get

683
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 2: and I wish, like going back to Ariana, I wish

684
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: you would feel this way. And I'm sure it's it's

685
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: different for everyone. When I get a nega, when I

686
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: get a comment that's like you're so fucking annoying and

687
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: a ass kisser and all this shit, what honestly it

688
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: feels like to me. And because I was trying to

689
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 2: equate this feeling to something, if you were to look

690
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: at me, Laala and be like, I fucking hate your

691
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: blue hair. You look so fucking ugly with blue hair.

692
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: It's disgusting. It makes me sick. I would look at

693
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: you like, oh my god, you're a crazy person. I

694
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: don't have fucking what are you talking about? And I

695
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: would just feel like a little concerned for you because

696
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: I'd be like, hey, she thinks I have blue fucking hair?

697
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: Is she okay? And that's literally how I feel when

698
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: people are like helping at me, I'm like, oh, are

699
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: you okay? Because that's not me? Are you okay? Obviously

700
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: you don't know me, and I hope you go find

701
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: help insanity, And that's literally how I feel. So when

702
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: you say like full circle, people like Arianna get affected,

703
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're a bad bitch and these people are not,

704
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: like right, they need help? Yeah, Like they're coming at

705
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 2: you saying things and they don't fucking know you, right.

706
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: Like I don't hang out with you because I think

707
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: what I Janice from Wisconsin said about you, right, and

708
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: I know you. I'm around you a lot. Yes, what

709
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: that person is saying, she doesn't know you. It's so sad.

710
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: I know. I love Ariana, so I hope she gets

711
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: through that. Another DM that I got, Oh god, And

712
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: this was like a real DM, A girl asking me

713
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: to mentor her on how to be a sugar baby

714
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: and She's like, I mean no disrespect by this, but

715
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: none of my friends know, like, are in this type

716
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: of world. So I was hoping that you could like

717
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: my mentor.

718
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: Did do you think did you get the vibe that

719
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: she thought you were one at one time?

720
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: Well a lot of people do, yeah, and we speak

721
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: about that this season.

722
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 2: You do.

723
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

724
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: Wait, I never I've never seen read that anywhere.

725
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: By the way, if you're looking to be a sugar baby,

726
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: and let's just say I was, I'm the worst person

727
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: to mentor you because like I was like begging for

728
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: a new sewer that he wouldn't even pay for. I'm like, no,

729
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: the ceiling is going to fall through full of shit

730
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: if we don't pay for this, and he was like,

731
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: can you split it with me? So like I'm the

732
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: worst person.

733
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: Wait did you respond or no? Where You're just like.

734
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: I said, I can't help you because I'm not a

735
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: sugar baby and never have been. So I'll be no

736
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: of you. I won't be of anything.

737
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: What do you feel about sugar babies? It's like, live

738
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: your life if you want, but be fucking careful because

739
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: there's some dangerous people out there, you know.

740
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: I before everything happened, I used to be. Even in

741
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: my book, I'm like do you boo? And now, because

742
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: of my trauma, I look down upon it pretty heavily,

743
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: just because you know, when you're in a when you

744
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: think you're in a happy space, even though you're not one,

745
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: you're like do you Bill? And then you kind of

746
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: see what that world is like, like what's been happening

747
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: behind your back? And you start start realizing like, oh

748
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: my god, maybe he looked at me like I was

749
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: just a sugar baby and he could keep me around

750
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: with things, and that wasn't where my mindset was. My

751
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: mindset was like, oh my gosh, I'm here like being

752
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: a stepmom and I'm you know, teaching kids how to

753
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: like read, I'm doing homework on a Friday so that

754
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: you can go have fun tonight. Like I didn't think

755
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: of myself that way at all, but maybe that person did.

756
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: So when I look at it now and just where

757
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: I am, like, thank god. I sat there and thought

758
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work my ass off no matter what, because

759
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: my mama taught me to never depend on anybody. So

760
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: when I see women who are sugar babies, I'm my girl.

761
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Yeah, it ain't worth it.

762
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: I see when I do see the women who are

763
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: sugar babies, and look if there's like there's a lot

764
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: that goes into it, but just the surface level.

765
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know what goes into it.

766
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's different for everyone. I think

767
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: there's sexual exchange. I think there's just items exchange. I

768
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't really know the world. I think

769
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: as long as you're genuinely happy and stay safe, then

770
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: that's one thing I've heard and seen. There's documentaries about it.

771
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: A lot of shit that goes wrong, Like you're in

772
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: an even exchange relationship for a couple of years and

773
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: it's great, and then the woman wants to get out

774
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: and she kind of can't.

775
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I like where we're going here. Okay, let's assume

776
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: you're a sugar baby in a safe all of it

777
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: is consensual, all of it is safe, because that's the

778
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: main thing. I want you safe. I need your mental

779
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: to be safe because that's also very very important. I

780
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: need you physically and emotionally safe. Let's just say we're there.

781
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: If you are exchanging sexual favors for something, I highly

782
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: recommend you do it for money and not things and

783
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: not things because things aren't gonna get you anywhere. Don't

784
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: let him pay for your apartment, don't let him buy

785
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: you bags. No, honey, I'm gonna need cold hard cash.

786
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: Okay, So you save up to get yourself.

787
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: Out of there when you fucking stack the paper. Yeah,

788
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: that's what I would do.

789
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cause there are another thing I saw on I

790
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: got to get the name of the documentary. If you

791
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: want to know, dm me. It's on I think Netflix.

792
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: But there are there are a lot of sugar babies

793
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: apparently that are not allowed to have jobs because of

794
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: that situation, because then they can stack it up, they

795
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: can get the things, stack up their cash from the job,

796
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: the actual job where they're like, you know whatever. I know,

797
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: sugar baby is an actual job. I'm not trying to

798
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: offend anyone, but like a job where they have a

799
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: W two and all that and they're not allowed to

800
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,240
Speaker 2: have it. And I found out by watching the documentary

801
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: is because in a lot of situations, the sugar daddy

802
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: quote unquote doesn't want the girl to just stack up

803
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: the cash and be able to.

804
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: Get and have independence. So there we go. You're no

805
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: longer emotionally safe. So I advise against being a sugar baby.

806
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: I advise you start a business, go get a real job,

807
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: be independent. That's what my mom always taught me to do.

808
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: So I hate to put a bee in your bonnet.

809
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: I am not a sugar baby. I have never been

810
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: a sugar baby. And I know that some of you

811
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: may think otherwise. We'll let you have that fun imagination

812
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: of yours, just run wild. I was talking to my

813
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: best friend Olivia, Okay, the one who our moms have

814
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: been friends and junior high and then our daughters are

815
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: six months apart, five months, I think, And I asked her.

816
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: She has four kids, three boys and Hazel Grace, And

817
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: I said, are you done? Are you not having kids anymore? And,

818
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: by the way, most phenomenal mother in the entire world.

819
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: I take her advice because she's got it figured out

820
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: and she's a stay at home mom, which I think

821
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: would be the hardest job in the entire world. I

822
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 1: just respect all moms, whether you're working stay at home.

823
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: It's just you're fucking killing the game. And she got

824
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: really emotional because she said, I don't want to close

825
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: that chapter of my life because I just the feeling

826
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: of having a newborn is so special. She got very emotional,

827
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: and she said, but I just can't help but think,

828
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: how will each of my kids suffer if I bring

829
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: another baby into the family, Because she said, with each kid,

830
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: you can no longer give each one what they need.

831
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: It's just I know that, like my oldest is gonna

832
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: need me in this way, my middle is gonna need

833
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: me in this way. And if I bring another baby

834
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: into the world, like what am I going to have

835
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: to take away to now give this new baby what

836
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: it needs? Oh that's interesting And I had never thought

837
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: about that because I come from Utah and some of

838
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: these people have nine kids, and it's just like because

839
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: I wanted nine kids, and they don't think about Well,

840
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: how is you know Max gonna suffer if I bring

841
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: in another child? How do I remember? How do you

842
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: remember all those names?

843
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: I barely remember the names of my siblings? Yeah, how

844
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: do you That's a great Did that make you think differently?

845
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: Because have you always wanted a certain number of children

846
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: or not?

847
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: When I was young, like sixteen, Yeah, I thought I

848
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: was going to marry my high school sweetheart and my

849
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: first high school sweetheart, which was like a dreadful experience.

850
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: I wrote about him in the book.

851
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: Oh it was that one.

852
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: It was like his family couldn't know about me. He

853
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: was very Mormon.

854
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: He was not the one where you came to visit

855
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: him right, and he was dick.

856
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: No, that was when I was older. Okay, but what

857
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: did you just say, Oh, I wanted six kids. I

858
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: just always I remember this family had six kids, and

859
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: it looked so fun. It looked so fun. The mom

860
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: always looked exhausted. Yeah, the kids were having a blast.

861
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to have six kids. Now

862
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: that ship has sailed, obviously, because I'd have to really

863
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: start banking about like two at a time. Yeah, and

864
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: even just having one is like a lot.

865
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: Do you ever think now, because I know you've mentioned

866
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: it before about and I know they'll see this maybe

867
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: on the upcoming season of vander Pump, but like, what's

868
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: your mindset now with kids or are you just like

869
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to think about it. It's me. I'm like,

870
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to fucking think about it.

871
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: No, I think about it because I have ocean And

872
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: by the way, I say, it's a lot just because

873
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to provide her with experiences

874
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: and things that are gonna like mentally and emotionally stimulate her.

875
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: So she's you know, I just want her to have experiences.

876
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: I want her to be around a lot of kids.

877
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: I want her to have a sibling. So a sperm

878
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: donor is an option. But then I met with this

879
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: fertility consultant or specialist at Stossey's house and she said,

880
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: I would freeze your eggs because then you have an

881
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: insurance policy. You're gonna meet someone. That's gonna happen. You're

882
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: gonna meet someone, and then when you do, you just

883
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: create embryos and there you go, and maybe you conceive

884
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: just like naturally the old fashion way, but at least

885
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: you know that you have them and you're still open

886
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: to Okay, I'm gonna have a baby, but I'm also

887
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: gonna have it with a partner.

888
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: That's a good option. So I don't know, it's definitely, yeah,

889
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: it's I have a friend back in New York who

890
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: just started the egg freezing process and she's thirty five,

891
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: and I was honest, I was like, wait, what you're

892
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 2: you're thirty five and they're like, she's like, yeah, that's

893
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: my doctor recommended.

894
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: They say at thirty five is when things for a female.

895
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: Start to just decrease. Yeah, that's why I think a

896
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: lot of people do it at thirty five.

897
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

898
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. But on the other hand of the because I

899
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: love that point Olivia brought. Every time you have another child,

900
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: it's sort of takes away specific something from that child.

901
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

902
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 2: Four, yeahs is a lot. She's at three right now,

903
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: she's at four. Oh, it would be five, okay. On

904
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: the other hand of that, as one of five, I

905
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: do think there were things I learned growing up and

906
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: had to adapt as far as like number one, I

907
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: was always kind of fighting for attention, So I feel

908
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: like I learned to be a little like funny or

909
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: comedy like a lot of I got that from Like

910
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: as soon as I got to make someone laugh in

911
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 2: my family, I was getting attention. So I was like, Okay,

912
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna learn how to do this more. And then

913
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: another thing is like I am not Kyle's an only child.

914
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 2: Well he was for like twenty five years, and he

915
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 2: it's hard for him to deal with Like he has

916
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: his space, he's got his stuff, like don't fucking touch it,

917
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: not for me, but like this is my area, like

918
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: when he had roommates for me, I'm just like I

919
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: share everything. What's mine is yours. And I feel like

920
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: I learned how to be that way because I had

921
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: to be with four siblings. So there are positives and negatives,

922
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: I feel, you know, I think there are two.

923
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe there's something that you could do. And

924
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: this is just in a perfect world, because this is

925
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: what I thought, you know, with Ocean before she came.

926
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: I was like, this is how our life is going

927
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: to be.

928
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: And then they come and you're like that goes out

929
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: the window and you're just making it work. But maybe

930
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: there's something where like if you had a lot of kids,

931
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: maybe at a certain time every night you get together

932
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: in the bed, everyone talks. Maybe you do a one

933
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: on one with each of your kids.

934
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's so cute. We had the family

935
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: dinners where it's like that's all we had. We had

936
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: six pm. Everyone sits around the table. My dad would

937
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: go around and say, tell us the best part of

938
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: your day, tell us the worst, and like we couldn't

939
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: miss family dinners. We could only miss at four emergencies.

940
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: And like that was my mom. I love that.

941
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: I was just like and then as you get older,

942
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: you have like such a hopefully. Yeah, have such like

943
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: a beautiful connection with all your siblings.

944
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you keep that sort of line of communication

945
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: open even if it's only an hour every day, because

946
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: you're all so busy, right, so you have that hour together.

947
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think I'll tap out at three.

948
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: You think, yeah, yeah, three is good.

949
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

950
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: I could see you having six still, but I would

951
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: not even have it.

952
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: But I will say when I talk to my mom

953
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: about it, yeah, she's like, Ocean's always gonna be my favorite.

954
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean, ocean is always gonna be my favorite.

955
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. I said this, and I was like, well,

956
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: Ocean's always gonna be my favorite too. I mean you

957
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: always have a special connection with just like your firstborn.

958
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 3: He was like, thanks, oh, thanks, but no, Ocean will

959
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: always be I think Ocean even and you guys can

960
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: all say, oh no, that's not gonna that's not how

961
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: it's gonna be when you see your next baby.

962
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: But Ocean and just like her personality mixed with like

963
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: having to leave that life behind at seven months and

964
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: even though she's not gonna remember it, Like I just

965
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: look at her and I have such a soft spot

966
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: in my heart for her.

967
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like your best friend and your daughter. And

968
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: I know a lot of moms are like, you should

969
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: never be best friends with your daughter, but I see

970
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: you and your mom are best friends.

971
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm best friends with my daughter. She doesn't even

972
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: know it yet. She is my everything. And yes, we'll

973
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: always have a special bond because she's my daughter. Yeah,

974
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be a place that for her is

975
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: just a little different.

976
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one hundred percent.

977
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: But I could have another baby and it will all

978
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: be the same. I don't know. She's the only one

979
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: I have right now, so of course a baby that

980
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: doesn't exist that I think about could be mine one day.

981
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you ain't hitt and like ocean does.

982
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: That's funny.

983
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: Anyway, this was fun. I liked this episode. Lily's was

984
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: trying at the door.

985
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: Well.

986
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: I love you guys so much. I hope that you

987
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: had an incredible Halloween. I hope that everyone was safe

988
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: and just like blew it out the ass and the

989
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: most productive and happy way ever. Those of you who

990
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: don't drink, I hope that you got fuck wild on

991
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: Perrier and I will catch you next week.