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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
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Speaker 3: It is Thursday, sometime in June. We're hoping this usually
Speaker 3: comes out on a Thursday. We're so glad that you
Speaker 3: have joined us, fellow conspiracy realist. We are going to
Speaker 3: hear from you. We've got some letters from home. We've
Speaker 3: got some updates on things that Big Chicken doesn't want
Speaker 3: you to know. As a joke for our Atlanta friends,
Speaker 3: we also have we also have some breaking news that
Speaker 3: we will share as well. Most importantly, we've got some
Speaker 3: messages from you, and we'll get into those right now
Speaker 3: or after a well. We're doing cold open style. This
Speaker 3: is our cold open.
Speaker 2: And we've returned. We are jumping to the phone lines
Speaker 2: off the bat. Here to a message that guys sausage
Speaker 2: McMuffin needed to tell us something. It was very important.
Speaker 2: It was about a conversation we were having, and I
Speaker 2: guess we left something out either by omission or like me,
Speaker 2: forgot about it until the old McMuffin said, Hey, remember
Speaker 2: this is it?
Speaker 4: Wait? Soft note?
Speaker 3: Is it like when I talked about the Atlanta water
Speaker 3: main break and we didn't talk about how Atlanta had
Speaker 3: spent millions of dollars on cop city instead of fixing infrastructure.
Speaker 4: Maybe you did kind of leave that one in your
Speaker 4: back pocket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well we also left this out, and let's
Speaker 2: go to the message.
Speaker 5: Hi, uh this is a sausage McMuffin and uh Southern
Speaker 5: California and uh feel free to use this over the air,
Speaker 5: just in the middle of your most recent listener mail
Speaker 5: and Noel. The scariest part for me in the movie
Speaker 5: Pet Cemetery was and always will be Zelda has always
Speaker 5: taking the cake. And just now thinking about Zelda in
Speaker 5: that bedroom has given me the HEV TV and H
Speaker 5: For any of you people out there that haven't watched
Speaker 5: the movie or read the book, do yourself a favor
Speaker 5: and do both take care, love the show, keep doing
Speaker 5: what you're.
Speaker 4: Doing some mean spirited little movie that what spoke to
Speaker 4: you about this?
Speaker 3: Aside from sausage bik muffin, actual.
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen pet cemetery since I was a kid,
Speaker 2: and I thought, what is Zelda the sister a bedroom?
Speaker 2: I have no idea what you're talking about, sausage McMuffin.
Speaker 2: So then I did a little search on ye old
Speaker 2: internets and the beat well, well, the Google came back
Speaker 2: and just reminded me of this image that I'm sharing
Speaker 2: with you guys right now.
Speaker 3: Jesus not as scary as the book. Yeah, the book
Speaker 3: is frightening. I think it's one of the I believe
Speaker 3: the author, Stephen King, still to this day, describes it
Speaker 3: as the book that terrified him the most. He wrote
Speaker 3: the thing sausage and he himself, the author actual, will
Speaker 3: not read the book.
Speaker 4: Wow, he showed her and like I think his publisher
Speaker 4: or his wife maybe convinced him to publish it. But
Speaker 4: it is it's it's about weapons. I think the closest
Speaker 4: thing that I could compare it to in today's kind
Speaker 4: of cinema is Hereditary. Hereditary deals with the weaponization of
Speaker 4: grief and loss and how it makes you go insane. Uh,
Speaker 4: and in a very similar way. But there's similarly bleak
Speaker 4: movies where nothing good happens to anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we recommend you head on over to Stephen
Speaker 2: King dot fandom dot com and look up Zelda Goldman
Speaker 2: who is that character and just learn about her and
Speaker 2: her spinal lameningitis that she suffered from and how that
Speaker 2: affected her and the family.
Speaker 4: Was played by a large, lanky dude by the way, uh,
Speaker 4: wearing a wig. Just just that's maybe it doesn't age just
Speaker 4: quite so well.
Speaker 3: What's the old line from John Lovett's acting, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, Andrew huba Stek I think is how you say
Speaker 2: his name?
Speaker 3: That bub Steak is entirely as we know based upon
Speaker 3: Andrew's appearance in Pet Cemetery's film Wrecked a Lot.
Speaker 4: Of Kids Man Wrecked a Lot of Kids.
Speaker 3: Also, that is a great point sausage mcmuffet for any
Speaker 3: fans of horror. Stephen King recently published his latest horror anthology,
Speaker 3: or I should even at this point just a fiction
Speaker 3: anthology called You Like It Darker? Just finished it amazing.
Speaker 4: Really good. It's super It seems like he's been coasting
Speaker 4: a little bit lately. That's good to hear. I'm really
Speaker 4: glad to hear that. If I could just add one
Speaker 4: little thing. Recently, we did a bunch of videos and
Speaker 4: then I did one of the videos and I did
Speaker 4: it was a review for this that I really enjoyed
Speaker 4: called I Saw the TV Glowing, which is all about
Speaker 4: like the memory and the way we look at like
Speaker 4: the pop culture when we're kids, and things that scare us,
Speaker 4: and how sometimes when you revisit them later as adults,
Speaker 4: they look cheap and stupid and gaudy. That is how
Speaker 4: I felt about Stephen King's made for TV adaptation of
Speaker 4: it when I was a kid. That gave me hellacious nightmares,
Speaker 4: hellish even I couldn't sleep. I was terrified Pennywise was
Speaker 4: gonna come to get me. There's a scene where like
Speaker 4: blood comes out of a drain. I has found it
Speaker 4: absolutely nightmare fuel watched it with my kid about five
Speaker 4: six years ago. They laughed at it the whole time,
Speaker 4: and I was just like, this is not what scared me.
Speaker 4: It couldn't be so memory to help a thing by
Speaker 4: pets cemetery still scares me.
Speaker 2: That one holds up it most certainly does you know
Speaker 2: what else holds up?
Speaker 4: Guys? Tell us what's that, Matt.
Speaker 2: Groups of people that want to influence others to give
Speaker 2: them thousands and thousands of dollars. Culture into the next message,
Speaker 2: which comes to us from tree Forts.
Speaker 6: Here we go, Hey, guys, this is tree Forts. Feel
Speaker 6: free to use this on air or not. But I'm
Speaker 6: actually listening to some stuff from back in at the
Speaker 6: beginning of April talking about the two by two cult
Speaker 6: and a couple of the other ones. I got another
Speaker 6: one for you. There is a cult in the city
Speaker 6: of Ashland, Oregon, called the Twin Ray Cult. It's not there.
Speaker 6: They are the type of cult who doesn't want to
Speaker 6: be called the cult. Obviously that's how that works. But
Speaker 6: Ashland does a very small, small community of pretty wealthy
Speaker 6: and important people in Oregon. But there's a lot of
Speaker 6: weird stuff going on that I think you guys should
Speaker 6: look into. If you guys want to use this on
Speaker 6: airth that's totally fine, and I hope you guys have
Speaker 6: a good rest of your day.
Speaker 2: There we go another cult, guys, Now, I want to
Speaker 2: make sure everyone heard tree Forts correctly. There it is
Speaker 2: Twin Ray t W I N no space r A Y.
Speaker 2: If you want to look this up, and it is
Speaker 2: in the in the city of Ashland A S H
Speaker 2: L A N D in Oregon.
Speaker 4: Guys. Yeah, did the immediate.
Speaker 2: Google search and something came up from a local outfit
Speaker 2: over there called op B and they've got we've got
Speaker 2: an article here titled the Twin Ray Mystery. A spiritual
Speaker 2: group in Ashland raises eyebrows and worries.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love the point that you're bringing up there.
Speaker 3: I love the point you're bringing up there. Three forts. Yes,
Speaker 3: they do not want to be described as a cult.
Speaker 3: Few cults do. They're a what they call themselves, matt,
Speaker 3: a global tribe.
Speaker 2: Sure, that's a really good way to put it. A
Speaker 2: global tribe of like minded individuals, all striving for ascension.
Speaker 4: Hm.
Speaker 2: This sounds good to me, guys. One of the reasons
Speaker 2: that they were I guess learned about or known about
Speaker 2: is because they opened a store like a brick and
Speaker 2: mortar store where they sold stuff called living water for
Speaker 2: one hundred and eleven dollars apiece.
Speaker 3: One hundred and eleven dollars US.
Speaker 2: That is United States currency. Oh yeah. It was on
Speaker 2: main street of this smallish town called Ashland, as about
Speaker 2: twenty one thousand people living in it, and this this
Speaker 2: place is weird. It was gold flecked the living water,
Speaker 2: so there was gold flakes in it of some sort,
Speaker 2: and it was supposed to have some kind of spiritual
Speaker 2: effect on you. And also when you went in the store.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of what is being described here by O. P.
Speaker 2: B and the writer Lee L E A H sotal
Speaker 2: S O T T I L e Uh. They're saying
Speaker 2: it's a it was a new age store, right do
Speaker 2: you go into there's probably I haven't seen the inside
Speaker 2: of it besides a couple of pictures, but there's definitely
Speaker 2: some crystal formations in there, some really cool paintings and art,
Speaker 2: and you could go in there and buy your water,
Speaker 2: and man, it.
Speaker 4: Looks really interesting.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm I'm looking at the website here and what
Speaker 3: I'm what I'm seeing just from their official website tree
Speaker 3: Forts and Matt and Nolan Codenay doc and all of us.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing the use of a term I don't quite understand, bioceuticals,
Speaker 3: like the water contains flex of gold, but then also
Speaker 3: something called bioceuticals which allegedly impact mood in a positive way.
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds nice. That sounds really nice. Let's see,
Speaker 2: I'm on their store right now, Treasures dot Twinay dot com,
Speaker 2: and they've got the super six. It's what they're advertising here.
Speaker 2: At least it's got let's see, it's got immortal, monotomic,
Speaker 2: cosmic clay, galactic gaia times two, enlightened earth trybiotic and biozymes.
Speaker 2: What is this stuff? What is it says? I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna read this verbatim here on the website. This is
Speaker 2: not an ad embark upon a powerful journey with our
Speaker 2: divine human bioceutical thirty day daily detox that is designed
Speaker 2: to perform a deep cellular cleanse, rejuvenate your cells, reconfigure
Speaker 2: your connection to your body, to the earth, ground, your energies,
Speaker 2: and awaken the life force within your organs.
Speaker 3: I think the FDA would approve of all of those
Speaker 3: terms because they are not legally defined nor enforceable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind of don't really mean anything to be rude.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I don't know about you, guys. My organs definitely
Speaker 4: have a bit of a glow to them.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry that I don't mean. You're right, I
Speaker 2: don't mean to be rude. It sounds really nice. It
Speaker 2: sounds otherworldly and powerful, right, and it sounds like these
Speaker 2: particular whatever they are, This cosmic clay which is I
Speaker 2: don't know. It says it's a radiant blue substance on
Speaker 2: Earth found to be thirty million years old. That may
Speaker 2: just be the antidote for the superbug warfare of today,
Speaker 2: may just be it's the only clay in the world
Speaker 2: to date that is one hundred percent antibacterial and antipathogenic.
Speaker 2: Cool tight, awesome, I guess I just don't understand a
Speaker 2: lot of the stuff, and I'm confused a bit by
Speaker 2: the website here. It says that they've got an academy,
Speaker 2: guys I linked to it. In there, they've got a
Speaker 2: Twin Ray Academy where you can sign up for a
Speaker 2: Mystic Mentorship and a Solar monthly bundle that is three
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three dollars for two courses. Then you
Speaker 2: can get a Mystic Mentorship Solar annual bundle, which I
Speaker 2: guess is paying on a yearly basis, which includes three courses,
Speaker 2: and that one is three thousand, three hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: three dollars. So there's some numerology going on in here, obviously, right,
Speaker 2: the threes are very important. There's also a gold status
Speaker 2: that you can get, which I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know what that entails. I'm a bit afraid to click
Speaker 2: on it, but I will.
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 2: Oh, it looks like nothing was found at this location. Okay,
Speaker 2: never mind, never mind, got a page error.
Speaker 3: What we can say is, of course, the thing that
Speaker 3: we feel ethically bound to declare in any exploration of
Speaker 3: what we will call non mainstream religious movements. Right, that's
Speaker 3: a diplomatic term. If you are not doing harm to people,
Speaker 3: believe what you wish, and live as you wish to live,
Speaker 3: die as you wish to die. However, the accusations here, Matt,
Speaker 3: from some of the sources you shared, some of the
Speaker 3: things I'm finding here, they appear to indicate that this
Speaker 3: movement has been accused of forcing financial harm upon people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least that's what has been written thus far.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a bit strange. You can find their Instagram page, which,
Speaker 2: if you want to look it up, it is Twinreay
Speaker 2: dot official. That's at least the name that pops up. Well,
Speaker 2: I guess the user that pops up the name is
Speaker 2: Akasha E. Sonata, which is interesting. If you watch some
Speaker 2: of the reels that they have posted on there, you
Speaker 2: will find and I don't know their names, but I'm
Speaker 2: definitely seeing a man that is wearing kind of white
Speaker 2: and light colored clothing and sometimes a hat and has
Speaker 2: a long beard us dash into long hair and looking
Speaker 2: I would say quite messionic.
Speaker 3: It looks like according to a couple of pieces from
Speaker 3: local press, it looks like it's co founded by son
Speaker 3: and Daji, maybe the person you're describing the messionic looking
Speaker 3: dude and Shikena Ma, who is the co founder and
Speaker 3: appears to share a very similar aesthetic.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: I wonder what their given names actually were. That's something
Speaker 2: we can find out later. Fascinating stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: What do you think tree Fort's find out some more info.
Speaker 2: Send it our way. We haven't been up to that
Speaker 2: part of Oregon in some time, so you know, give
Speaker 2: us some info. We'll find out more. Is there a
Speaker 2: cool religious movement that's happening near you? Why don't you
Speaker 2: write to us and tell us all about it? Send
Speaker 2: us a voicemail however you want to contact us. At
Speaker 2: the end of the episode, you'll learn how For now,
Speaker 2: stick around for more messages from you.
Speaker 4: And we are back with another message from U. YESU,
Speaker 4: that's you, Chicken Nato. I picked this email against my
Speaker 4: better judgment, for as you all know, I am in
Speaker 4: fact deathly a feared of birds, on specifically chickens. I
Speaker 4: was once chased by a chicken. I did survive, Thank
Speaker 4: you for asking. But they freak me out. Man. They're
Speaker 4: like weird, creepy dinosaurs that somehow still are on this planet.
Speaker 4: I do enjoy eating their flesh, but yeah, I don't
Speaker 4: particularly like like seeing them. They come at you, man,
Speaker 4: tweaky little guys. But this is not about This is
Speaker 4: not a story about Nole's fear of birds. This is
Speaker 4: a story with an insider perspective on factory farming, which
Speaker 4: is also really scary. They let her goes like this.
Speaker 4: You can call me code name Chicken Nato from Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: I've been listening to your podcasts for a while. It's
Speaker 4: great to pass the time at work. I haven't listened
Speaker 4: to all of them yet. After all, it's a huge catalog.
Speaker 4: That's true. I caught the feed Gate stuff involving the
Speaker 4: chicken feed plus birds not laying. That was all the
Speaker 4: rage last year in the chicken forums, which is apparently
Speaker 4: a thing. Of course, it is forums for everything, so
Speaker 4: I know you have some interest in agriculture. For a
Speaker 4: tiny bit of background, I grew up rural. My family
Speaker 4: raised beef cattle before the market became terrible for small
Speaker 4: family farms, as in lucky to break even. Now I
Speaker 4: do bantam chickens, lots of them, and provide my community
Speaker 4: with fresh, sustainable eggs from flocks that follow best practices.
Speaker 4: So my info for you on what they don't want
Speaker 4: you to know is that the labels you see on
Speaker 4: a lot of animal goods in the store don't mean
Speaker 4: what you think they mean. A lot of times. For example,
Speaker 4: if you go look at eggs, you'll see some options
Speaker 4: like cage free or free range, and quite often the
Speaker 4: cartons will have some kind of image that indicates happy
Speaker 4: chickens out on a large field. This is compounded by
Speaker 4: how lots of homesteaders and backyard keepers use terms to
Speaker 4: describe their setups. This means we have two definitions for
Speaker 4: the same thing, homesteader, backyard flocks, hobbyists, etc. Free Ranging
Speaker 4: flocks are loose in a large open area in your yard,
Speaker 4: the pasture or whatever, there's grass and other green things,
Speaker 4: and they get to run around in it. Commercial operation,
Speaker 4: according to the USDA, chickens labeled free range must have
Speaker 4: had access to the outside. There's no stipulation, however, of
Speaker 4: how large that space must be, or how long they
Speaker 4: need access, or the quality of it. It could be
Speaker 4: just a tiny space on a concrete slab a few
Speaker 4: chickens can crowd into a few minutes per day and
Speaker 4: still get that sweet, sweet free range label. There's also
Speaker 4: a third label I'll cover just because I'm sure someone
Speaker 4: will bring it up. Certified Humane free range, which does
Speaker 4: have the requirement of at least two square feet per
Speaker 4: bird of outdoor access for at least six hours a day.
Speaker 4: Sounds great if big if you know nothing about best
Speaker 4: practices guidelines for chickens. Best practices require that standard chickens
Speaker 4: need a minimum of ten square feet per bird in
Speaker 4: their run the outside portion of their housing. Even bantam
Speaker 4: chickens need at least four square feet per bird. There's
Speaker 4: actually nothing humane about the label, once you are aware
Speaker 4: how grossly substandard this is for space requirements. The label
Speaker 4: people think they are buying when they get free range
Speaker 4: is called pastured. Just for people's info if they are
Speaker 4: upset to learn they've been supporting poor animal welfare practices. Okay,
Speaker 4: so that's the one you want making a note of
Speaker 4: that there. And this is just one example. If you
Speaker 4: look around at any of the AG products marketed directly
Speaker 4: to buyers, you'll see tons and tons of this misleading stuff.
Speaker 4: And cows, a lot of the labels say grass fed
Speaker 4: instead of pastured, because they weren't on pasture, they were
Speaker 4: in a feed lot and fed. Hey. The example just
Speaker 4: keep going on and on, and I think a lot
Speaker 4: of people not directly involved in AGG don't really know
Speaker 4: about these things, since every time I've spilled the beans
Speaker 4: about it to NONAG people, they are shocked and appalled.
Speaker 4: As an endinote, I'd like to give everyone the advice
Speaker 4: that getting fresh farm goods is a lot easier, cheaper
Speaker 4: and accessible than you might think. Agreed, oh a million percent,
Speaker 4: And we'll get into that in a second. Anyone who
Speaker 4: has even six chickens has more eggs than they know
Speaker 4: what to do with. Offer to buy a few dozen.
Speaker 4: Look around on local Facebook groups or even apps like farmish.
Speaker 4: I often find stuff much cheaper than at grocery stores.
Speaker 4: This way ps have included the photos of my since
Speaker 4: you guys say you like pet photos. These are bantam chickens,
Speaker 4: which are basically miniature versions of the standard breeds. Wow
Speaker 4: in a wealth of information. That is an actionable email
Speaker 4: from Chicken Nato, and I can attest despite my misgivings
Speaker 4: about chickens, these are cute chickens. And I may mentioned
Speaker 4: this on the show before, but my partner used to
Speaker 4: raise chickens herself and had one named Martha and one
Speaker 4: named Snoop. You know, because of Martha and Snoop. They
Speaker 4: used to kick it together or whatever. But guys, remember
Speaker 4: when we went to that chicken guy's place in his
Speaker 4: backyard when we shot some videos and I got scared
Speaker 4: and ran away like a little little baby.
Speaker 2: I remember it vividly. I remember the feel of their
Speaker 2: pecks on my.
Speaker 4: Hand as I fed them. It was awesome. I don't
Speaker 4: want to come off down named privileged here, but I mean,
Speaker 4: I think even it's probably even more common in less
Speaker 4: metro areas to have farmers' markets, you know, on the
Speaker 4: weekends or whatever certain times of the year. But I'm
Speaker 4: here in Atlanta. We have access to all kinds of farmers' markets.
Speaker 4: In the summer, there's you know, Atlanta is a metro area,
Speaker 4: but right you go a couple hours outside the city,
Speaker 4: or even an hour, you're in farmland, baby. I mean
Speaker 4: there's tons of ag operations, family owned farms, and what
Speaker 4: Chicken Nato is saying is absolutely correct. You can get
Speaker 4: a dozen eggs for very little money, much cheaper than
Speaker 4: the grocery store, and they're just better eggs, man, They're
Speaker 4: so good. The shells even have this like unique quality
Speaker 4: to them. They're not as homogenized looking. They all kind
Speaker 4: of have little different characteristics, and you know, just getting fresh,
Speaker 4: you can get a whole chicken, you know, from one
Speaker 4: of these same types of farmers markets, and it is
Speaker 4: some of the best, you know, roasted chicken you'll ever
Speaker 4: have in your life. And the eggs are just fabulous.
Speaker 2: And it's often not as expensive as some of the
Speaker 2: eggs that I've shopped for in the past, where I'm
Speaker 2: looking for some of these specific labels and they're you know,
Speaker 2: they're upwards of nine dollars a dozen, if not a
Speaker 2: bunch more.
Speaker 4: Well, now that we know these labels are bs too,
Speaker 4: it's even more kind of vexing, right.
Speaker 2: It makes a tough decision because you have to decide, Wow,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna budget a significant portion of the
Speaker 2: amount of money that I thought I was going to
Speaker 2: spend on groceries, on eggs, which is generally one of
Speaker 2: the you know, the lower cost things that you're gonna buy,
Speaker 2: along with stuff like milk and butter and some of
Speaker 2: those essentials, those staples. It's just it's tough. You want
Speaker 2: to do it right, you then have to spend a
Speaker 2: bunch of money unless you're doing what Chicken Nato is
Speaker 2: suggesting here.
Speaker 4: And man and you chimed Dan. You know when I
Speaker 4: was reading the letter about how you agree that there
Speaker 4: are so many really amazing options that a lot of
Speaker 4: people might not think to eat farm fresh. Did you
Speaker 4: have any any thing I know you like to cook?
Speaker 4: Did you have any things that stood out to you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: First, Chicken Nato, thank you so much. You are on
Speaker 3: my list who reply to because I love, love, love
Speaker 3: the picture of the pictures I should say of your
Speaker 3: bantam brood. And you're absolutely correct about everything you mentioned here.
Speaker 3: For anybody who has not checked out our earlier episodes
Speaker 3: on the livestock industry in the US, and indeed, abroad,
Speaker 3: please give it a listen. It is unpleasant, but it
Speaker 3: is important and we must remember as well, especially conspiracy
Speaker 3: realist in the West, if you are familiar and dependent
Speaker 3: upon a grocery store. We're not saying go off the
Speaker 3: grid immediately, but we are saying, as Matt mentioned, please
Speaker 3: be aware of your options because you can, indeed not
Speaker 3: just prepare yourself for eventualities by establishing relationships with local farmers,
Speaker 3: with local livestock owners, you can also save a little
Speaker 3: bit of money in the short.
Speaker 4: Term you're here. I don't know. I don't have a
Speaker 4: a lot to add. I just thought this was just
Speaker 4: an email that I thought just so chock full of
Speaker 4: information that is actually actionable. And then that's you know
Speaker 4: we like to That's exactly the kind of stuff we
Speaker 4: like to share on listener mail. So maybe we make
Speaker 4: this a bit of a shorter one unless you guys
Speaker 4: had anything else to app.
Speaker 2: The only thing I had to add is the I've
Speaker 2: heard of like a local Facebook group for farmers, like right,
Speaker 2: if you want to reach out. I've never heard of farmers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I wanted to look that up really quickly and
Speaker 2: just give you know, people an idea of what maybe
Speaker 2: that is because I had no idea. Is it an app?
Speaker 2: Do we think?
Speaker 4: Seems like it's like a community farmersh local food and yeah,
Speaker 4: farmers marketplace app for local food and farms buy and
Speaker 4: sell homegrown produce, backyard chicken, eggs, honey plants, trees, garden supplies.
Speaker 4: So the kind of folks that would go and set
Speaker 4: up at a local farmer's market. This is probably a
Speaker 4: way of reaching out to them directly, which could be
Speaker 4: kind of cool.
Speaker 2: That is very cool. We are not sponsored by Farmish.
Speaker 2: Just put that out there.
Speaker 4: I'm just tapping. I didn't know it existed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems very cool.
Speaker 4: Well with that another action item there. Thank you for
Speaker 4: pointing that one out, Matt and getting us a look
Speaker 4: a little bit deeper. Yes, you can go to getpharmish
Speaker 4: dot com to check that out. Let's take a quick break,
Speaker 4: hear a word from our sponsor, and then come back
Speaker 4: with another piece of listener mail.
Speaker 3: And we have returned. Fellow conspiracy realist. We're gonna hear
Speaker 3: from Brian who says, hey, stuff, they don't want you
Speaker 3: to know team. By the way, I just thought this
Speaker 3: would be a fun way for us to explore something
Speaker 3: that's been on a lot of people's minds lately. Brian says,
Speaker 3: I have a long time listener and a first time contactor.
Speaker 3: You can call me Brett the hit Man. I just
Speaker 3: want to let you guys know you're doing a phenomenal
Speaker 3: podcast that always keeps me entertained while being informed about
Speaker 3: stuff they don't want you to know. So keep up
Speaker 3: the excellent work, Brian. Thank you from the bottom of
Speaker 3: our collective heart. Brian has an idea for a show
Speaker 3: and says, here's a bit of a backstory. My wife
Speaker 3: is a huge Taylor Swift fan. It was trying for
Speaker 3: months to get tickets to her US shows. We are
Speaker 3: in California. She didn't care where the show was. She
Speaker 3: was prepared to travel wherever to see Taylor Swift. Taylor
Speaker 3: has such a huge legion of swifties that they have
Speaker 3: to use a lottery type system to see if you
Speaker 3: can be selected for a chance to buy tickets. So
Speaker 3: I'm pausing here for a second. That means you have
Speaker 3: to win the opportunity to pay for the thing. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: don't win the tickets, all right, to.
Speaker 4: Mention the airfare, hotel, whatever. If you're doing the destination version,
Speaker 4: because you gotta kind of diversify by trying for multiple locations.
Speaker 3: And Brian continues, this was going crazy because the people
Speaker 3: who got selected for the lottery would buy up all
Speaker 3: the tickets in mere minutes. Brian says, Fortunately, my wife
Speaker 3: got selected and was able to buy tickets for Taylor's
Speaker 3: show in Paris, France. And I'm paraphrasing here a bit, Brian.
Speaker 3: Brian says, Now we had never been across the pond,
Speaker 3: but for this concert it was a done deal. The
Speaker 3: reason why is because the cost of the concert tickets
Speaker 3: in Paris. Listen closely, guys loose where a fraction of
Speaker 3: what they were selling for in the United States might
Speaker 3: seem counterintuitive to a lot of us here in the US.
Speaker 3: To clarify, says Brian, we got four tickets in Paris
Speaker 3: for about five hundred dollars total, when tickets here in
Speaker 3: the US were being sold for over two thousand dollars
Speaker 3: each US dollars. Geez right. Luckily, Brian says, the trip
Speaker 3: was successful. This show was well worth it. Earlier this month,
Speaker 3: in May May of twenty twenty four, for anybody listening,
Speaker 3: you know, years in the future and Brian says, once
Speaker 3: we got back, I saw a news report that Ticketmasters
Speaker 3: be ensued because the US Justice Department, who allowed Ticketmaster
Speaker 3: Live Nation to merge years ago, is angry about it basically,
Speaker 3: and Ticketmaster Live Nation accused of having a stranglehold on
Speaker 3: ticket sales and the fees are way too ridiculous, so
Speaker 3: the USDOJ wants Ticketmaster Live Nation to break up so
Speaker 3: other ticket providers can have a chance to sell tickets
Speaker 3: without the unaffordable markup. As of this writing, and Brian
Speaker 3: wrote to us just yesterday as the crow flies, apparently
Speaker 3: thirty states have joined in with this lawsuit. And we
Speaker 3: did an episode on Ticketmaster earlier.
Speaker 2: Remember that, guys, totally way back in actually around this time.
Speaker 2: It's been almost exactly five years twenty nineteen in May,
Speaker 2: was it.
Speaker 4: Around the time of the merger.
Speaker 3: I think, to be quite honest and not sounding like
Speaker 3: self involved, I think I got pissed because I felt
Speaker 3: like I had to pay too much for a Ticketmaster thing.
Speaker 3: And maybe that's an experience we shared, but we definitely
Speaker 3: went went after just the facts about the monopolistic practices
Speaker 3: of Ticketmaster to a great deal in defense of the
Speaker 3: creators and bands that have to labor under that regime.
Speaker 4: It's so easy to get confused too, because since we
Speaker 4: started doing the listener mail and strange news stuff, sometimes
Speaker 4: having discussed something in one of those segments, I'm like,
Speaker 4: did we do an episode on that, because we've certainly
Speaker 4: talked about the merger, like what could go wrong? They'll
Speaker 4: be fine, right, They'll be good stewards of all of us,
Speaker 4: you know, hard working concert music lovers, fans. Right, it's
Speaker 4: all for the fans, right, Ticketmaster slash live Nation right right.
Speaker 3: One interesting part of that conversation that would love your
Speaker 3: take on, Brian is the idea that Ticketmaster is in
Speaker 3: some way paid to be the bad guy, paid to
Speaker 3: be the scapegoat. Right, Like, now we are a band,
Speaker 3: we're still making our money, or we're a performer some
Speaker 3: sort and we can say, look, it's not us, it's
Speaker 3: the system.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I wish you could just you know, I wish it
Speaker 3: could come for free. But because the big bad corporate guy,
Speaker 3: it's going to be three hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Why is this so much cheaper in Europe? Like I
Speaker 4: know that the euro is worth less than the dollar,
Speaker 4: and things do tend to be a little that just
Speaker 4: seems like wildly disparate. I'm interested is to is she
Speaker 4: not as popular over there? I don't know. It's very
Speaker 4: very interesting because I actually have my girlfriend or my
Speaker 4: partners that one of her best friends is mega mega
Speaker 4: swifty and did something almost identical, went to Paris for
Speaker 4: the first time, did just to see to see Taylor. All.
Speaker 4: We're sharing these kind of stories.
Speaker 3: You know, I know, and I'm sure many of us
Speaker 3: listening tonight knows someone who has practiced medical tourism. It's
Speaker 3: cheaper too. It's cheaper to visit a dentist in a
Speaker 3: different country with the same level of care than it
Speaker 3: is to visit someone in the United States. We wanted
Speaker 3: to you wanted to point this out because it is
Speaker 3: something we've explored the past. The results are apparent. The
Speaker 3: DOJ is moving, at least here in the States. I
Speaker 3: likewise was surprised by the price discrepancy. If you want
Speaker 3: to learn more, please go to the New York Times
Speaker 3: article US calls for breakup a Ticketmaster owner that is
Speaker 3: Live Nation Entertainment. Fantastic article just came out like a
Speaker 3: week ago by David McCabe and Ben Cesario. Shout Out
Speaker 3: Ben's and this looks like it will be a phrase
Speaker 3: we used earlier in Strange News and earlier tonight. It
Speaker 3: will be actionable, like there will be results from this,
Speaker 3: and you know, the main beneficiary is probably going to
Speaker 3: be I mean, it's not just the public, it's going
Speaker 3: to be beneficial for the performers as well. I would argue,
Speaker 3: does that sound off base?
Speaker 2: Not at all. I was looking at an article in
Speaker 2: Billboard that said tickets in Europe were something like a
Speaker 2: percent less, like cheaper than tickets in the United States
Speaker 2: to go see Taylor Swift specifically, and they're they're saying
Speaker 2: it's due to the regulatory environment, right and to kind
Speaker 2: of exist that we've talked about for other things like
Speaker 2: privacy over in European countries versus the United States, as
Speaker 2: well as a I would say, a healthy skepticism of
Speaker 2: the old ticket resale what do we call that? What
Speaker 2: we call ecosystem?
Speaker 4: There we go space, But I feel like they've cracked
Speaker 4: the code on that over there before we did, like
Speaker 4: in terms of like mitigating scalping. Because dear friend of
Speaker 4: the show casey Pegrim, talked about an experience he had
Speaker 4: going to see Radio had many years ago in Paris
Speaker 4: where he had to get his ticket and it required
Speaker 4: like multiple forms of identification. You couldn't transfer the ticket,
Speaker 4: you know, there were lots of stipulations. And when I
Speaker 4: just went to this prima Vero Sound Festival and in
Speaker 4: Spain you had to upload your passport and your passport
Speaker 4: to your ticket. I just feel like it's one of
Speaker 4: the many things that they kind of cracked over there
Speaker 4: before we've kind of figured it out over here, because
Speaker 4: it still seems like they're scalping opportunities over here. It's not.
Speaker 4: It's not as lockdown despite some sort of mild efforts
Speaker 4: on the part of you know, companies like Ticketmaster and folks, we.
Speaker 3: Would love to hear your thoughts in this regard. You know,
Speaker 3: we again we courted controversy when we did our ticket
Speaker 3: Master episode, but luckily we were prescient in that sense
Speaker 3: because just objectively, again there does appear to be a
Speaker 3: bit of a conspiracy afoot, and finally Uncle Sam also
Speaker 3: appears to agree with us. However, that's not the end
Speaker 3: of tonight's listener Mail program. I want to give a
Speaker 3: special shout out to James s over on Here's where
Speaker 3: it gets crazy. Our Facebook page who shared a fantastic
Speaker 3: article about active evolution. Urban foxes are evolving, proven Darwin's
Speaker 3: earlier theories. James links to an article from big think
Speaker 3: dot com. It's a fascinating read. It's from twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: but it's still pretty prescient. Just to give you a
Speaker 3: shout out, James, just to give everybody on here's where
Speaker 3: it gets crazy, a shout out.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: We love the activity on that. I did want to
Speaker 3: end with one letter from home. This is the very
Speaker 3: end of listener mail. We like to just have a
Speaker 3: thing that's maybe not like a huge deal, but it's
Speaker 3: just a how you doing to conspiratorial prairie home companion.
Speaker 3: And this is where this is where we get a
Speaker 3: message from from someone we'll call street Genie because well
Speaker 3: you'll see why a steam gentleman, you can call me
Speaker 3: Street Genie. I recently consumed the listener mail segment regarding
Speaker 3: the tacos are sandwich is ruling, and I would like
Speaker 3: your opinion on a very important matter. Lasagna equals And
Speaker 3: this is in a layer. It's written so you see
Speaker 3: the layers starch, meat, cheese, starch, meat, cheese, starch, Street
Speaker 3: Genie says, big Mac equals starch, meat cheese, starch, meat
Speaker 3: cheese starch. Therefore, is the big Mac a lasagna?
Speaker 4: Is there nothing sacred?
Speaker 3: Street Genie, Street Genie.
Speaker 4: You you want to watch the world burn, don't you, Street Genie.
Speaker 2: Well, Street Genie, you've forgotten the lettuce in the main.
Speaker 2: Did you think about the lettuce or the special sauce?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: Now, now now?
Speaker 3: And not all starches, your all cheeses are created equals.
Speaker 4: If you make your lasagna like Carmelo soprano, does you
Speaker 4: got the little basil leaves in between the noodle le
Speaker 4: or you ever heard of a veggie lasagna? Ma At?
Speaker 4: I was being Devil's at. I don't even know what
Speaker 4: inside I'm on.
Speaker 3: Maybe we I don't want to say improved, because we're
Speaker 3: big fans of your work, Street Genie.
Speaker 4: Maybe what we do.
Speaker 3: Is revise the formula a little bit, to add something
Speaker 3: like vegetation or like can't matter, you know, because also
Speaker 3: I realized that I just made the implication that I
Speaker 3: consider all forms of meat equally consumable. I guess I
Speaker 3: should guard on record I have never eaten a human being.
Speaker 3: I hope i'd never have to.
Speaker 4: Question if it were to become possible, which I think
Speaker 4: we've now dringing about. Who there was a story about this,
Speaker 4: if there was a synthetic way of producing human meat,
Speaker 4: would you try it? Would you try it?
Speaker 3: Years back, many evenings ago, I remember Matt speaking with
Speaker 3: you because I was taken in by what appeared what
Speaker 3: turned out to be a satirical parody website that said
Speaker 3: they had created houfu kind of plant based protein that
Speaker 3: did taste one to one like human meat.
Speaker 4: Wait, so it wasn't real.
Speaker 3: Uh, the website was not real.
Speaker 4: But I swear there was a story more recently that
Speaker 4: someone had lab grown human meat.
Speaker 3: Lab grown regular meat is on the way, and now
Speaker 3: it's just an economy of scale and consumer comfort question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, says here, it's a Channel four satire show. Yeah,
Speaker 4: lab Channel four lab grown human meat show is satirical.
Speaker 2: Dawn darn sounded like a honeypot for cannibals.
Speaker 3: Finally we figured it out. Okay, we'll make that a
Speaker 3: sketch later, because that's a great idea. Also, if you
Speaker 3: think about for situations you should never be in. Here
Speaker 3: is an observation the reason cannibalism often goes wrong for
Speaker 3: people practicing cannibalism. We talk about this, I think in
Speaker 3: our earlier episodes, is that usually when people violate that
Speaker 3: strong primal moral taboo, they're being They're predating on other
Speaker 3: starving people. Right, So the people that you are attempting
Speaker 3: to eat, unless they died before, they were malnourished, they
Speaker 3: are kind of like they're not nutritionally viable. You know.
Speaker 3: It's a problem they ran into in liningrad It's a
Speaker 3: problem you see echoed in Alive or the film adaptation
Speaker 3: of that unfortunate plane crash. I'm ending this on a
Speaker 3: weird note.
Speaker 4: Wasn't that there a new one recently? It's called like
Speaker 4: Empire of the Snow or Kingdom of the Snow or
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 3: That was it called where you can sayment, I'm.
Speaker 2: Going to go out on a limb and say, Ben,
Speaker 2: you should stop talking publicly about your knowledge of cannibalism.
Speaker 4: I have not partaken. I'm not.
Speaker 3: We're just having you information for choices, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't.
Speaker 3: We came up with this on another show would be
Speaker 3: called ridiculous history. Don't live in fear, live informed. So
Speaker 3: if you are in a situation, thank you for backing
Speaker 3: me up on that one.
Speaker 4: You know, like what you did.
Speaker 3: We're recording that episode. If you are in a situation
Speaker 3: wherein you have to do these unthinkable, objectively not great things,
Speaker 3: then just no. I mean the non ethical answer would
Speaker 3: be keep people alive till you need them yourself.
Speaker 4: The film I was talking about that came out last
Speaker 4: year is called Society of the Snow by the Way,
Speaker 4: and it's about a plane crash in the Andes. It
Speaker 4: took place in nineteen seventy two, and it's supposed to
Speaker 4: be on the same story, supposed to be very very good,
Speaker 4: but seems like a real bummer.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, a couple of survivors at the end,
Speaker 3: you know. With that With that in mind, I think
Speaker 3: one of the great lessons we take here is that
Speaker 3: in this active milieu, the non consensual long form improv
Speaker 3: that we call life, things are still evolving. You should
Speaker 3: try not to eat people. We collectively still wonder what
Speaker 3: is a sandwich, what is or is not lasagna? And
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