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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Nol. They call me Ben.

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Speaker 3: We're joined as always with our super producer Alexis, code

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Speaker 3: named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, you are here. That

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Speaker 3: makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 3: It is Thursday, sometime in June. We're hoping this usually

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Speaker 3: comes out on a Thursday. We're so glad that you

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Speaker 3: have joined us, fellow conspiracy realist. We are going to

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Speaker 3: hear from you. We've got some letters from home. We've

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Speaker 3: got some updates on things that Big Chicken doesn't want

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Speaker 3: you to know. As a joke for our Atlanta friends,

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Speaker 3: we also have we also have some breaking news that

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Speaker 3: we will share as well. Most importantly, we've got some

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Speaker 3: messages from you, and we'll get into those right now

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Speaker 3: or after a well. We're doing cold open style. This

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Speaker 3: is our cold open.

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Speaker 2: And we've returned. We are jumping to the phone lines

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Speaker 2: off the bat. Here to a message that guys sausage

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Speaker 2: McMuffin needed to tell us something. It was very important.

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Speaker 2: It was about a conversation we were having, and I

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Speaker 2: guess we left something out either by omission or like me,

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Speaker 2: forgot about it until the old McMuffin said, Hey, remember

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Speaker 2: this is it?

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Speaker 4: Wait? Soft note?

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Speaker 3: Is it like when I talked about the Atlanta water

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Speaker 3: main break and we didn't talk about how Atlanta had

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Speaker 3: spent millions of dollars on cop city instead of fixing infrastructure.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you did kind of leave that one in your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well we also left this out, and let's

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Speaker 2: go to the message.

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Speaker 5: Hi, uh this is a sausage McMuffin and uh Southern

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Speaker 5: California and uh feel free to use this over the air,

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Speaker 5: just in the middle of your most recent listener mail

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Speaker 5: and Noel. The scariest part for me in the movie

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Speaker 5: Pet Cemetery was and always will be Zelda has always

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Speaker 5: taking the cake. And just now thinking about Zelda in

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Speaker 5: that bedroom has given me the HEV TV and H

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Speaker 5: For any of you people out there that haven't watched

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Speaker 5: the movie or read the book, do yourself a favor

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Speaker 5: and do both take care, love the show, keep doing

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Speaker 5: what you're.

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Speaker 4: Doing some mean spirited little movie that what spoke to

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Speaker 4: you about this?

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Speaker 3: Aside from sausage bik muffin, actual.

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Speaker 2: I hadn't seen pet cemetery since I was a kid,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, what is Zelda the sister a bedroom?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what you're talking about, sausage McMuffin.

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Speaker 2: So then I did a little search on ye old

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Speaker 2: and just reminded me of this image that I'm sharing

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Speaker 2: with you guys right now.

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Speaker 3: Jesus not as scary as the book. Yeah, the book

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Speaker 3: is frightening. I think it's one of the I believe

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Speaker 3: the author, Stephen King, still to this day, describes it

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Speaker 3: as the book that terrified him the most. He wrote

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Speaker 3: not read the book.

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Speaker 4: Wow, he showed her and like I think his publisher

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Speaker 4: or his wife maybe convinced him to publish it. But

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Speaker 4: it is it's it's about weapons. I think the closest

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Speaker 4: thing that I could compare it to in today's kind

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Speaker 4: grief and loss and how it makes you go insane. Uh,

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Speaker 4: and in a very similar way. But there's similarly bleak

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we recommend you head on over to Stephen

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Speaker 2: King dot fandom dot com and look up Zelda Goldman

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Speaker 2: who is that character and just learn about her and

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Speaker 2: her spinal lameningitis that she suffered from and how that

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Speaker 4: Was played by a large, lanky dude by the way, uh,

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Speaker 4: wearing a wig. Just just that's maybe it doesn't age just

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Speaker 3: What's the old line from John Lovett's acting, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Andrew huba Stek I think is how you say

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Speaker 3: That bub Steak is entirely as we know based upon

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Speaker 3: Andrew's appearance in Pet Cemetery's film Wrecked a Lot.

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Speaker 4: Of Kids Man Wrecked a Lot of Kids.

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Speaker 3: Also, that is a great point sausage mcmuffet for any

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Speaker 3: fans of horror. Stephen King recently published his latest horror anthology,

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Speaker 3: or I should even at this point just a fiction

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Speaker 3: anthology called You Like It Darker? Just finished it amazing.

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Speaker 4: Really good. It's super It seems like he's been coasting

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Speaker 4: called I Saw the TV Glowing, which is all about

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Speaker 4: the pop culture when we're kids, and things that scare us,

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Speaker 4: and I was just like, this is not what scared me.

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Speaker 4: It couldn't be so memory to help a thing by

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Speaker 4: pets cemetery still scares me.

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Speaker 2: That one holds up it most certainly does you know

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Speaker 2: what else holds up?

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Speaker 4: Guys? Tell us what's that, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Groups of people that want to influence others to give

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Speaker 2: them thousands and thousands of dollars. Culture into the next message,

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Speaker 2: which comes to us from tree Forts.

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Speaker 6: Here we go, Hey, guys, this is tree Forts. Feel

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Speaker 6: actually listening to some stuff from back in at the

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Speaker 6: one for you. There is a cult in the city

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Speaker 6: of Ashland, Oregon, called the Twin Ray Cult. It's not there.

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Speaker 6: They are the type of cult who doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: There we go another cult, guys, Now, I want to

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Speaker 2: make sure everyone heard tree Forts correctly. There it is

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Speaker 2: Twin Ray t W I N no space r A Y.

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Speaker 2: If you want to look this up, and it is

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Speaker 2: Google search and something came up from a local outfit

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Speaker 2: an article here titled the Twin Ray Mystery. A spiritual

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I love the point that you're bringing up there.

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Speaker 3: I love the point you're bringing up there. Three forts. Yes,

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Speaker 3: they do not want to be described as a cult.

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Speaker 3: Few cults do. They're a what they call themselves, matt,

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Speaker 3: a global tribe.

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Speaker 2: Sure, that's a really good way to put it. A

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Speaker 2: global tribe of like minded individuals, all striving for ascension.

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Speaker 2: This sounds good to me, guys. One of the reasons

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Speaker 2: That is United States currency. Oh yeah. It was on

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Speaker 2: twenty one thousand people living in it, and this this

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Speaker 2: place is weird. It was gold flecked the living water,

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Speaker 2: There's all kinds of what is being described here by O. P.

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Speaker 2: S O T T I L e Uh. They're saying

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Speaker 2: you go into there's probably I haven't seen the inside

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Speaker 2: some crystal formations in there, some really cool paintings and art,

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Speaker 2: and you could go in there and buy your water,

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Speaker 2: and man, it.

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Speaker 4: Looks really interesting.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm I'm looking at the website here and what

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Speaker 3: I'm what I'm seeing just from their official website tree

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Speaker 3: Forts and Matt and Nolan Codenay doc and all of us.

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing the use of a term I don't quite understand, bioceuticals,

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Speaker 3: like the water contains flex of gold, but then also

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Speaker 3: something called bioceuticals which allegedly impact mood in a positive way.

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Speaker 2: Oh that sounds nice. That sounds really nice. Let's see,

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Speaker 2: I'm on their store right now, Treasures dot Twinay dot com,

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Speaker 2: and they've got the super six. It's what they're advertising here.

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Speaker 2: At least it's got let's see, it's got immortal, monotomic,

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Speaker 2: cosmic clay, galactic gaia times two, enlightened earth trybiotic and biozymes.

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Speaker 2: What is this stuff? What is it says? I'm just

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Speaker 2: gonna read this verbatim here on the website. This is

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Speaker 2: divine human bioceutical thirty day daily detox that is designed

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Speaker 2: to perform a deep cellular cleanse, rejuvenate your cells, reconfigure

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Speaker 2: your connection to your body, to the earth, ground, your energies,

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Speaker 3: I think the FDA would approve of all of those

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind of don't really mean anything to be rude.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, I don't know about you, guys. My organs definitely

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry that I don't mean. You're right, I

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Speaker 2: don't mean to be rude. It sounds really nice. It

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Speaker 2: sounds otherworldly and powerful, right, and it sounds like these

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Speaker 2: don't know. It says it's a radiant blue substance on

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Speaker 2: Earth found to be thirty million years old. That may

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Speaker 2: just be the antidote for the superbug warfare of today,

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Speaker 2: may just be it's the only clay in the world

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Speaker 2: to date that is one hundred percent antibacterial and antipathogenic.

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Speaker 2: Cool tight, awesome, I guess I just don't understand a

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Speaker 2: the website here. It says that they've got an academy,

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Speaker 2: guys I linked to it. In there, they've got a

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Speaker 2: Twin Ray Academy where you can sign up for a

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Speaker 2: Mystic Mentorship and a Solar monthly bundle that is three

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Speaker 4: And we are back with another message from U. YESU,

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Speaker 4: that's you, Chicken Nato. I picked this email against my

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Speaker 4: You can call me code name Chicken Nato from Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: And man and you chimed Dan. You know when I

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Speaker 3: First, Chicken Nato, thank you so much. You are on

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Speaker 4: Term you're here. I don't know. I don't have a

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Speaker 4: Seems like it's like a community farmersh local food and yeah,

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Speaker 4: farmers marketplace app for local food and farms buy and

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Speaker 4: sell homegrown produce, backyard chicken, eggs, honey plants, trees, garden supplies.

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Speaker 4: So the kind of folks that would go and set

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Speaker 4: up at a local farmer's market. This is probably a

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Speaker 4: way of reaching out to them directly, which could be

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Speaker 4: kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: That is very cool. We are not sponsored by Farmish.

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Speaker 2: Just put that out there.

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Speaker 4: I'm just tapping. I didn't know it existed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems very cool.

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Speaker 4: Well with that another action item there. Thank you for

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Speaker 4: pointing that one out, Matt and getting us a look

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Speaker 4: a little bit deeper. Yes, you can go to getpharmish

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Speaker 4: dot com to check that out. Let's take a quick break,

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Speaker 4: hear a word from our sponsor, and then come back

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Speaker 4: with another piece of listener mail.

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Speaker 3: And we have returned. Fellow conspiracy realist. We're gonna hear

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Speaker 3: from Brian who says, hey, stuff, they don't want you

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Speaker 3: to know team. By the way, I just thought this

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Speaker 3: would be a fun way for us to explore something

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Speaker 3: that's been on a lot of people's minds lately. Brian says,

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Speaker 3: I have a long time listener and a first time contactor.

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Speaker 3: You can call me Brett the hit Man. I just

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Speaker 3: want to let you guys know you're doing a phenomenal

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Speaker 3: podcast that always keeps me entertained while being informed about

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Speaker 3: stuff they don't want you to know. So keep up

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Speaker 3: the excellent work, Brian. Thank you from the bottom of

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Speaker 3: our collective heart. Brian has an idea for a show

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Speaker 3: and says, here's a bit of a backstory. My wife

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Speaker 3: is a huge Taylor Swift fan. It was trying for

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Speaker 3: months to get tickets to her US shows. We are

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Speaker 3: in California. She didn't care where the show was. She

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Speaker 3: was prepared to travel wherever to see Taylor Swift. Taylor

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Speaker 3: has such a huge legion of swifties that they have

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Speaker 3: to use a lottery type system to see if you

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Speaker 3: can be selected for a chance to buy tickets. So

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Speaker 3: I'm pausing here for a second. That means you have

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Speaker 3: to win the opportunity to pay for the thing. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: don't win the tickets, all right, to.

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Speaker 4: Mention the airfare, hotel, whatever. If you're doing the destination version,

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Speaker 4: because you gotta kind of diversify by trying for multiple locations.

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Speaker 3: And Brian continues, this was going crazy because the people

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Speaker 3: who got selected for the lottery would buy up all

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Speaker 3: the tickets in mere minutes. Brian says, Fortunately, my wife

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Speaker 3: got selected and was able to buy tickets for Taylor's

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Speaker 3: show in Paris, France. And I'm paraphrasing here a bit, Brian.

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Speaker 3: Brian says, Now we had never been across the pond,

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Speaker 3: but for this concert it was a done deal. The

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Speaker 3: reason why is because the cost of the concert tickets

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Speaker 3: in Paris. Listen closely, guys loose where a fraction of

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Speaker 3: what they were selling for in the United States might

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Speaker 3: seem counterintuitive to a lot of us here in the US.

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Speaker 3: To clarify, says Brian, we got four tickets in Paris

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Speaker 3: for about five hundred dollars total, when tickets here in

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Speaker 3: the US were being sold for over two thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: each US dollars. Geez right. Luckily, Brian says, the trip

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Speaker 3: was successful. This show was well worth it. Earlier this month,

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Speaker 3: in May May of twenty twenty four, for anybody listening,

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Speaker 3: you know, years in the future and Brian says, once

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Speaker 3: we got back, I saw a news report that Ticketmasters

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Speaker 3: be ensued because the US Justice Department, who allowed Ticketmaster

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Speaker 3: Live Nation to merge years ago, is angry about it basically,

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Speaker 3: and Ticketmaster Live Nation accused of having a stranglehold on

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Speaker 3: ticket sales and the fees are way too ridiculous, so

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Speaker 3: the USDOJ wants Ticketmaster Live Nation to break up so

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Speaker 3: other ticket providers can have a chance to sell tickets

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Speaker 3: without the unaffordable markup. As of this writing, and Brian

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Speaker 3: wrote to us just yesterday as the crow flies, apparently

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Speaker 3: thirty states have joined in with this lawsuit. And we

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Speaker 3: did an episode on Ticketmaster earlier.

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Speaker 2: Remember that, guys, totally way back in actually around this time.

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Speaker 2: It's been almost exactly five years twenty nineteen in May,

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Speaker 2: was it.

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Speaker 4: Around the time of the merger.

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Speaker 3: I think, to be quite honest and not sounding like

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Speaker 3: self involved, I think I got pissed because I felt

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Speaker 3: like I had to pay too much for a Ticketmaster thing.

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Speaker 3: And maybe that's an experience we shared, but we definitely

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Speaker 3: went went after just the facts about the monopolistic practices

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Speaker 3: of Ticketmaster to a great deal in defense of the

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Speaker 3: creators and bands that have to labor under that regime.

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Speaker 4: It's so easy to get confused too, because since we

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Speaker 4: started doing the listener mail and strange news stuff, sometimes

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Speaker 4: having discussed something in one of those segments, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: did we do an episode on that, because we've certainly

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Speaker 4: talked about the merger, like what could go wrong? They'll

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Speaker 4: be fine, right, They'll be good stewards of all of us,

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Speaker 4: you know, hard working concert music lovers, fans. Right, it's

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Speaker 4: all for the fans, right, Ticketmaster slash live Nation right right.

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Speaker 3: One interesting part of that conversation that would love your

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Speaker 3: take on, Brian is the idea that Ticketmaster is in

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Speaker 3: some way paid to be the bad guy, paid to

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Speaker 3: be the scapegoat. Right, Like, now we are a band,

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Speaker 3: we're still making our money, or we're a performer some

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Speaker 3: sort and we can say, look, it's not us, it's

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Speaker 3: the system.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I wish you could just you know, I wish it

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Speaker 3: could come for free. But because the big bad corporate guy,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be three hundred dollars.

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Speaker 4: Why is this so much cheaper in Europe? Like I

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Speaker 4: know that the euro is worth less than the dollar,

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Speaker 4: and things do tend to be a little that just

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Speaker 4: seems like wildly disparate. I'm interested is to is she

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Speaker 4: not as popular over there? I don't know. It's very

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Speaker 4: very interesting because I actually have my girlfriend or my

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Speaker 4: partners that one of her best friends is mega mega

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Speaker 4: swifty and did something almost identical, went to Paris for

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Speaker 4: the first time, did just to see to see Taylor. All.

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Speaker 4: We're sharing these kind of stories.

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Speaker 3: You know, I know, and I'm sure many of us

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Speaker 3: listening tonight knows someone who has practiced medical tourism. It's

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Speaker 3: cheaper too. It's cheaper to visit a dentist in a

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Speaker 3: different country with the same level of care than it

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Speaker 3: is to visit someone in the United States. We wanted

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Speaker 3: to you wanted to point this out because it is

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Speaker 3: something we've explored the past. The results are apparent. The

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Speaker 3: DOJ is moving, at least here in the States. I

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Speaker 3: likewise was surprised by the price discrepancy. If you want

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Speaker 3: to learn more, please go to the New York Times

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Speaker 3: article US calls for breakup a Ticketmaster owner that is

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Speaker 3: Live Nation Entertainment. Fantastic article just came out like a

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Speaker 3: week ago by David McCabe and Ben Cesario. Shout Out

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Speaker 3: Ben's and this looks like it will be a phrase

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Speaker 3: we used earlier in Strange News and earlier tonight. It

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Speaker 3: will be actionable, like there will be results from this,

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Speaker 3: and you know, the main beneficiary is probably going to

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Speaker 3: be I mean, it's not just the public, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be beneficial for the performers as well. I would argue,

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Speaker 3: does that sound off base?

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Speaker 2: Not at all. I was looking at an article in

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Speaker 2: Billboard that said tickets in Europe were something like a

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Speaker 2: percent less, like cheaper than tickets in the United States

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Speaker 2: to go see Taylor Swift specifically, and they're they're saying

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Speaker 2: it's due to the regulatory environment, right and to kind

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Speaker 2: of exist that we've talked about for other things like

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Speaker 2: privacy over in European countries versus the United States, as

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Speaker 2: well as a I would say, a healthy skepticism of

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Speaker 2: the old ticket resale what do we call that? What

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Speaker 2: we call ecosystem?

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Speaker 4: There we go space, But I feel like they've cracked

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Speaker 4: the code on that over there before we did, like

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Speaker 4: in terms of like mitigating scalping. Because dear friend of

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Speaker 4: the show casey Pegrim, talked about an experience he had

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Speaker 4: going to see Radio had many years ago in Paris

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Speaker 4: where he had to get his ticket and it required

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Speaker 4: like multiple forms of identification. You couldn't transfer the ticket,

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Speaker 4: you know, there were lots of stipulations. And when I

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Speaker 4: just went to this prima Vero Sound Festival and in

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Speaker 4: Spain you had to upload your passport and your passport

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Speaker 4: to your ticket. I just feel like it's one of

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Speaker 4: the many things that they kind of cracked over there

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Speaker 4: before we've kind of figured it out over here, because

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Speaker 4: it still seems like they're scalping opportunities over here. It's not.

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Speaker 4: It's not as lockdown despite some sort of mild efforts

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Speaker 4: on the part of you know, companies like Ticketmaster and folks, we.

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Speaker 3: Would love to hear your thoughts in this regard. You know,

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Speaker 3: we again we courted controversy when we did our ticket

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Speaker 3: Master episode, but luckily we were prescient in that sense

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Speaker 3: because just objectively, again there does appear to be a

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Speaker 3: bit of a conspiracy afoot, and finally Uncle Sam also

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Speaker 3: appears to agree with us. However, that's not the end

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Speaker 3: of tonight's listener Mail program. I want to give a

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Speaker 3: special shout out to James s over on Here's where

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Speaker 3: it gets crazy. Our Facebook page who shared a fantastic

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Speaker 3: article about active evolution. Urban foxes are evolving, proven Darwin's

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Speaker 3: earlier theories. James links to an article from big think

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Speaker 3: dot com. It's a fascinating read. It's from twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: but it's still pretty prescient. Just to give you a

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Speaker 3: shout out, James, just to give everybody on here's where

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Speaker 3: it gets crazy, a shout out.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: We love the activity on that. I did want to

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Speaker 3: end with one letter from home. This is the very

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Speaker 3: end of listener mail. We like to just have a

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Speaker 3: thing that's maybe not like a huge deal, but it's

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Speaker 3: just a how you doing to conspiratorial prairie home companion.

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Speaker 3: And this is where this is where we get a

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Speaker 3: message from from someone we'll call street Genie because well

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Speaker 3: you'll see why a steam gentleman, you can call me

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Speaker 3: Street Genie. I recently consumed the listener mail segment regarding

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Speaker 3: the tacos are sandwich is ruling, and I would like

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Speaker 3: your opinion on a very important matter. Lasagna equals And

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Speaker 3: this is in a layer. It's written so you see

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Speaker 3: the layers starch, meat, cheese, starch, meat, cheese, starch, Street

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Speaker 3: Genie says, big Mac equals starch, meat cheese, starch, meat

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Speaker 3: cheese starch. Therefore, is the big Mac a lasagna?

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Speaker 4: Is there nothing sacred?

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Speaker 3: Street Genie, Street Genie.

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Speaker 4: You you want to watch the world burn, don't you, Street Genie.

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Speaker 2: Well, Street Genie, you've forgotten the lettuce in the main.

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Speaker 2: Did you think about the lettuce or the special sauce?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: Now, now now?

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Speaker 3: And not all starches, your all cheeses are created equals.

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Speaker 4: If you make your lasagna like Carmelo soprano, does you

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Speaker 4: got the little basil leaves in between the noodle le

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Speaker 4: or you ever heard of a veggie lasagna? Ma At?

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Speaker 4: I was being Devil's at. I don't even know what

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Speaker 4: inside I'm on.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we I don't want to say improved, because we're

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Speaker 3: big fans of your work, Street Genie.

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Speaker 4: Maybe what we do.

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Speaker 3: Is revise the formula a little bit, to add something

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Speaker 3: like vegetation or like can't matter, you know, because also

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Speaker 3: I realized that I just made the implication that I

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Speaker 3: consider all forms of meat equally consumable. I guess I

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Speaker 3: should guard on record I have never eaten a human being.

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Speaker 3: I hope i'd never have to.

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Speaker 4: Question if it were to become possible, which I think

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Speaker 4: we've now dringing about. Who there was a story about this,

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Speaker 4: if there was a synthetic way of producing human meat,

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Speaker 4: would you try it? Would you try it?

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Speaker 3: Years back, many evenings ago, I remember Matt speaking with

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Speaker 3: you because I was taken in by what appeared what

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Speaker 3: turned out to be a satirical parody website that said

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Speaker 3: they had created houfu kind of plant based protein that

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Speaker 3: did taste one to one like human meat.

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Speaker 4: Wait, so it wasn't real.

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Speaker 3: Uh, the website was not real.

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Speaker 4: But I swear there was a story more recently that

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Speaker 4: someone had lab grown human meat.

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Speaker 3: Lab grown regular meat is on the way, and now

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Speaker 3: it's just an economy of scale and consumer comfort question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, says here, it's a Channel four satire show. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: lab Channel four lab grown human meat show is satirical.

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Speaker 2: Dawn darn sounded like a honeypot for cannibals.

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Speaker 3: Finally we figured it out. Okay, we'll make that a

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Speaker 3: sketch later, because that's a great idea. Also, if you

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Speaker 3: think about for situations you should never be in. Here

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Speaker 3: is an observation the reason cannibalism often goes wrong for

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Speaker 3: people practicing cannibalism. We talk about this, I think in

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Speaker 3: our earlier episodes, is that usually when people violate that

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Speaker 3: strong primal moral taboo, they're being They're predating on other

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Speaker 3: starving people. Right, So the people that you are attempting

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Speaker 3: to eat, unless they died before, they were malnourished, they

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Speaker 3: are kind of like they're not nutritionally viable. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's a problem they ran into in liningrad It's a

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Speaker 3: problem you see echoed in Alive or the film adaptation

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Speaker 3: of that unfortunate plane crash. I'm ending this on a

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Speaker 3: weird note.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't that there a new one recently? It's called like

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Speaker 4: Empire of the Snow or Kingdom of the Snow or

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Speaker 4: something like that.

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Speaker 3: That was it called where you can sayment, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to go out on a limb and say, Ben,

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Speaker 2: you should stop talking publicly about your knowledge of cannibalism.

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Speaker 4: I have not partaken. I'm not.

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Speaker 3: We're just having you information for choices, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't.

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Speaker 3: We came up with this on another show would be

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Speaker 3: called ridiculous history. Don't live in fear, live informed. So

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Speaker 3: if you are in a situation, thank you for backing

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Speaker 3: me up on that one.

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Speaker 4: You know, like what you did.

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Speaker 3: We're recording that episode. If you are in a situation

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Speaker 3: wherein you have to do these unthinkable, objectively not great things,

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Speaker 3: then just no. I mean the non ethical answer would

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Speaker 3: be keep people alive till you need them yourself.

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Speaker 4: The film I was talking about that came out last

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Speaker 4: year is called Society of the Snow by the Way,

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Speaker 4: and it's about a plane crash in the Andes. It

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Speaker 4: took place in nineteen seventy two, and it's supposed to

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Speaker 4: be on the same story, supposed to be very very good,

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Speaker 4: but seems like a real bummer.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, a couple of survivors at the end,

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Speaker 3: you know. With that With that in mind, I think

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Speaker 3: one of the great lessons we take here is that

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Speaker 3: in this active milieu, the non consensual long form improv

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Speaker 3: that we call life, things are still evolving. You should

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Speaker 3: try not to eat people. We collectively still wonder what

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