1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to move sticks. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 3: I am Bucky Brooks and I'm sitting here with my 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: man Lance Z. We've just finished Night two of the 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five NFL Draft, and Lance, I mean, there's 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff going on. There are a lot 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: of dreams that are realized. But I think we would 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: be remiss if we don't start with the biggest story 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: of the day. Day two, rounds two and three go 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: five quarterbacks have now been drafted. But when the fourth 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 3: round opens on Saturday, Carla, quarterback Shadur Sanders. 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: Will still be waiting to hear his name call. 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Yep, he'll still be waiting. And you know, it's a 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: different conversation today than it was at the end of 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: the day than it was at the beginning of the day. 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: At the beginning of day was football people saying, look 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: at these silly people on social media arguing about how 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders was supposed to be a top ten pick 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: and they didn't watch tape and they and you know, 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: and and really this is he fell out. But that 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: was that's for football reasons. Now, was there always a 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: concern about you know, maybe how he interviewed. Sure, is 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: there going to be some concern for some teams about 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders and and his you know, this looming specter 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: of Dion if things don't. 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: Go well, you know, maybe maybe. 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: But once we hit the second round, and Bucky you 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: and I talked about off the air, there was a 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: scenario where Shore Sanders could absolutely slide out of the 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: second round. 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: We knew that. 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: We knew that, and then if he slid out the third, 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: that thought was a second then like what's to keep 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: him from sliding in the third. We we did think 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck could go ahead of him. 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: That was possible. 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Once you got all the way to the midway through. 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Once he once he got past the Pittsburgh Steelers and 39 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: eighty three you you turned and said this, maybe this 40 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: may be a wrap form because Cleveland had passed on 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: him multiply. 42 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: They pass on so many times that you couldn't envision 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: them taking him. And then I would say the nail 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: on the coffin or when you really went oh, is 45 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: when Dylan Gabriel, No disrespect to Dylan Gabriel quarterback coming 46 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: out of Oregon, when he's taken ninety fourth overall by 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns, where bypassed on an opportunity to take 48 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: the quarterback. That's when you're like, hey man, there's a 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: scenario where he may not get drafted today. But also 50 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: you're now beginning to wonder is he going to get drafted? 51 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: Period? 52 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: Because with the Raiders and the Browns bypassing them multiple times, 53 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: the Saint seemingly getting their guy. The Giants have gotten 54 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: their guy. The Seattle Sea Hawks take Jalen mill Roll, 55 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: who's left like now it's a free fall where going 56 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: in the day three in the fourth round. If he 57 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: goes in the fourth round, we talk about developmental prospect. 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: Anyone taking a guy where we're just throwing darts. To 59 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: think about him being in that scenario where you're just 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: throwing darts, where does he go? And the other thing 61 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: and look, it reminds me of the Tim Tebow thing, 62 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: right when Tim Tebow was out there and despective Tim 63 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: Tebow joining your squad. So much noise, so much perceived distractions. 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: Which team it was a distraction though, don't you think 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: with Tim Tebow says everything? Every time Tim we got 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: sick as a fan, I was so sick and a 67 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: media member hearing about Tim Tebow every time, like, guys, 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: this is not the story. 69 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 3: And so is that going to be the thing, Because 70 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: when sherdurs end is when he gets picked, is the 71 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: first thing that happens. 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: Media members arena say, does he have a chance to start? 73 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: Do you have this? What kind of situation do you have? 74 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: I'm looking at a situation where it has to be 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: someone that's so interested as the starter that he's a 76 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: non factor when it comes to them bringing him in 77 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: and doing that. And so it's Look, it's a fun 78 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: and not a fun but a very fascinating story to watch. 79 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: I would say one that I don't know if I've 80 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: ever seen a notable name like this experienced kind of 81 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: slat when yeah, it wasn't a conversation going in. 82 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: What's not medical? Right, there's nothing. There's nothing criminal. There's 83 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: nothing medical that we know of. Now let's you know, 84 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: let's just tell it all. He didn't compete at all 85 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: in the Shrine game, Okay, right, he didn't work out 86 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: at the combine. Okay, didn't throw at the combine, not 87 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: the first player not to that. That's not that's not 88 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: that big a deal. Didn't do anything at the Big 89 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: twelve Pro Day, Pro Day, okay, and then he finally 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: had his own showcase day. I do think that the 91 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: specter of everything being larger about it being about Shadeur. 92 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: You know, Travis Hunter Dean put lots of platitudes and 93 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: he won the Heisman Trophy. He did I mean he did, 94 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: but he did. He did that. But the other thing was, 95 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, Dian always mentioned Travis every time he mentioned 96 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: sud Or. It's not like Travis, but there was something 97 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: that felt like, you know, there was a push that 98 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: tra that Shadoor was bigger than the team. And that's 99 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: something that will really turn teams off. The fact that 100 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: he went after his offensive line. A year ago in 101 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: a twitch stream, I talked to an assistant GM who 102 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: told me that was a big turn off for him 103 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: because in the NFL, you got to say it's your 104 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: fault even when it's not your fault. Like I got 105 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: to do a better job of getting rid of the 106 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: ball because you're protecting your guys, because your offensive line. 107 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 1: It's a brotherhood between the quarterback and the offensive line. 108 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: And I think this is a more complicated and more 109 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: nuanced conversation that you and I can have the general 110 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: public just really can't have it in social media setting. 111 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: It requires a lot more conversation because there's a lot 112 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: more that goes into it. 113 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 2: It's a lot of nuance. 114 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: And back in the day, we would talk about the 115 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: quarterback position being presidential in terms of being very regal 116 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: in nature, very regal in how you handed yourself on 117 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 3: the field, all to field, impress conferences, in those things. 118 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: And he Shadur is a very confident, very brash, very 119 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: in your face, like he's different. 120 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: He grew up in the seven oh seven era. 121 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: Well, these things are very commonplace, like the watch celebration, 122 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: that's very commonplace. If you go to any seven h 123 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: seven event, you see these kinds of things. But we're 124 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: not necessarily used to seeing a quarterback who is like that. 125 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: And I will say this, and it would be interesting 126 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: to fast forward to twenty twenty six and if Arch 127 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: Manning is in the draft and the things that we 128 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: talk about in terms of Dion and the family and 129 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: all of this other stuff, do you get the same 130 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: kind of sense and sentiment, Because remember, the Manning family 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: was very outspoken about Eli going to a place in 132 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: those things, and early in the process Dion talked about, 133 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that a we won't go to 134 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: these places, we want to go there and this, and 135 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: the tables have turned. And you just wondered when that 136 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: conversation came out there, how to coaches receive it, how 137 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: to gms and management officials receive it, and those things. 138 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: And now the leverage isn't with the player, the leverages 139 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: with the team. 140 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: And as we go into the. 141 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: Fourth round, man, you are hopeful as opposed to a 142 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: guy that is certain to make the team when you're 143 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: a top prospect. 144 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: I can tell you from talking to NFL personnel people, 145 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: there is a concern right now. This isn't a shadeur. 146 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: This is a general conversation. There is a concern right 147 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: now with entitlement on the college level because of NIL, 148 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: because it's gotten so out of control so fast. It's 149 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: gone from zero to one hundred miles an hour, and 150 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: the amount of money that's there, and the stories you 151 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: hear behind the scenes with players becoming really really difficult, 152 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: the ability to leave any time you want, the transit. 153 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: It's a constant state of free agency. There is a 154 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: belief by NFL teams that players are becoming more difficult 155 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: to deal with. And this is and it really is 156 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: only this is only like the third year that we've 157 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: seen in NIL, so it's still very very early. But 158 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: I do think that there you are going to see 159 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: more and more teams who are going to try to 160 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: figure out who the more entitled ones, who the I 161 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: don't know if I want to say spoiled or whatever, 162 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: but the guys who are in it for the NIL 163 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: and who are in it for football. I believe shit 164 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Or Sanders loves football. I think he loves football on tape. 165 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: To me, he's the second round talent. He's the second 166 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: best quarterback in this draft. I think he's got tremendous 167 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: His confidence, to me, is a huge plus. Now some 168 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: of it's too extra. Oh it just it just is. 169 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: I mean, let's just be real. Some of it is 170 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: too much. You got to dial some of that back. 171 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't mind brash, I don't mind confidence. I don't 172 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: mind cocky Aaron Rodgers stuff, all that stuff. Baker Mayfield 173 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: rubbed people the wrong way. You can do it when 174 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: you're bawling out on a high level in the NFL. 175 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: But it didn't impact Baker when it came to the 176 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 3: draft no impact. 177 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: Well, and see I heard stuff behind the scenes like 178 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: it seemed he left in the middle of the seat, 179 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, like that bothered me. 180 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: But but he's not the first one. Joey Harrington has 181 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: some stuff where he does. It could have been hard 182 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: to deal. It didn't stop teams from taking him third overall. 183 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: And I do understand talent brings tolerance, and we talked 184 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: about him not having the elite tools in those things. 185 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 3: But I'm just telling you I never thought that it 186 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: would be a situation where he falls. Can we have 187 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 3: a third and so look, don't want it to overshadow 188 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: like the night of so many guys realizing their dreams, 189 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: but man, we have to at least address what was 190 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: look early in the process. We're talking about two quarterbacks 191 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 3: who was going to be number one. To have the 192 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: guy who was in that conversation not only completely fall 193 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: out of the first round, but to not be taken 194 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: in the first three rounds, to me, it makes it 195 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: a more significant story. 196 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you and I have both been censored of 197 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: the fact that good football players have not had enough 198 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: conversation in this process. 199 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: Of leading up because we talked about it. 200 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: Because everything's been should or should or should do and 201 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: it's not fair to cam Ward first and foremost. Cam 202 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: Ward deserved way more to not get enough shots, not 203 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: get enough shine. 204 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: This is different. 205 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: Well, the conversation we're having now is how did it 206 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: happen and what happens now. The reason that happened is 207 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: going to be different for different teams. Some teams probably 208 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: didn't like the football player as much. He's you know, 209 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: he's not he's mobile in the pocket, he's not. He's 210 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: not a fast escapability guy. He takes too many sacks, 211 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: holds onto the ball too long. But you know, there's 212 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: been a lot of players have held them. 213 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: There's a lot of players. You know. 214 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: For everything that you can say, there's a counter to it. 215 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: So that's why it's I think it's I. 216 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: Mean, and my point is this, like when we talk 217 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: about the league and everyone talks about these hot standards, 218 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: we have seen players like Tim Boyle play seven years 219 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: in the league, who was a player who didn't have 220 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: nearly the accomplishment of your sanders, you know what I'm saying. 221 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: So like that's where I mean. 222 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like I mean, their their career backups, they 223 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: just stay out the case Kingdom, Well in case. 224 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: Case, and so that's the thing, and so we'll get 225 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: to it. We'll see where it ends up on day three. 226 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: But I got to ask you, when you look at 227 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: the first three rounds and you look at teams that 228 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: have put in work, who are some of the teams 229 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: that kind of that you're impressed with what they've been 230 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: able to do so well. 231 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: I like the Patriots had a philosophy, an idea of 232 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: what they wanted to do. Had a conversation with an 233 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: NBA former NBA general manager and I was talking about 234 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: the team that he used to work for and what 235 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: it was like, and he said, you know, even though 236 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: we had a great organization, the thing that bothered me 237 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: was every once in a while we'd be on the 238 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: draft clay and he said, there's only two rounds for us. 239 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: He said, we'd be on the board and all of 240 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: a sudden, there's hesitation in the room where we thought 241 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: we were all on the same page. So I think that, 242 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: and Bucky, you've been in those rooms. I think good 243 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: organizations understand this is our philosophy, this is what we're doing, 244 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: and the stick to it on draft day and you 245 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: don't waffle I look at the Patriots and it's interesting 246 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: because they brought because Mike ray Bull came in and 247 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: brought who's his guy, Ryan Calton, Yeah, Ryan Calden. Elliott 248 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: Wolf was already there, Alonso high Smith was already there. 249 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: So the two groups blended together, and it looks like 250 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: they have a really ironed out, well thought out plan. 251 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: Offensive tackle. First pick of the draft, you know, fourth overall. 252 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: They know they had to have tackled. They did it there. 253 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: Trayvon Henderson got a terrific running back and an explosive 254 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: playmaker in the second round, and a third round they 255 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: went and got a guy who can stretch the field 256 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: and Kyle Williams silky smooth wide receiver. And then at 257 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: the back end the they traded back and they still 258 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: were able to add Jared Wilson in an athletic center. There, 259 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: so two offensive linemen and then skilled position players. I 260 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if the second round. You know, they've 261 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: got three picks in the fifth, two and a seventh 262 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: one and a fourth they're gonna mix and match and 263 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: move up. I'm sure at least once, maybe twice, But 264 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: I'll bet you tomorrow's completely defense and I think that's 265 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: probably a philosophy and a discussion that they had in 266 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: their meetings. I like that for the Patriots, they needed 267 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: a lot of help, and I think they maneuvered around 268 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: pretty well and they did what they were supposed to do. 269 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: It's funny because I feel like this team always gets 270 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: a lot of love on Draft Day a draft weekend, 271 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: but the Baltimore Ravens, and we've been in this game 272 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: long enough to know that the Baltimore Ravens do what 273 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: they do. 274 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: They just sit and pick, They wait for good players 275 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: to fall. 276 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: We always talk about draft boards being like snowflakes and 277 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: that nobody has guys ranked in the same order, and 278 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens appeared always, I would say, feast on others' mistakes. 279 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: And so the fact that they're able to get Malachot 280 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: Starks early in the first round and then they come 281 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: back and on day two, like they get Mike Green. 282 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: Mike Green's the top six. 283 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: I mean, like he was the guy that we talked 284 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: about being a top twenty pick, someone that we knew 285 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: had sack production led the country in sacks. You saw 286 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: the fights inness, you saw him come off the edge 287 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: the physicality and toughness, all those things. And here you 288 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: are in the second round and he's right there in 289 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens scoop them up. 290 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: Are you just like? 291 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: Here they go again and doing what they do, and 292 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: then later they come and get Emry Jones. I'm talking 293 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 3: from LSU, just another guy that kind of fits their thing. 294 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: The one thing that always stands out great organizations. They 295 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: understand their identity and they always pick players that suit 296 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: their identity. 297 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: And when you're strong and have strong leadership, you can 298 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: take guys that and you know, Mike Greenfell, there's some 299 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: character stuff, but from what I understand, it's nothing that's 300 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: gonna like. I don't think there's a concern about the person, 301 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: the type of player he is. They just got a 302 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: discounted from what I can tell, they got a discounted 303 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: first rounder later in the second round, and they don't 304 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: overthink it. That's one of the things about the Ravens. 305 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Malachi Starks, you're not trying to well, if we get 306 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: NICKI man, worry, what we're gonna be able to do 307 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: is we're gonna be able to be more. 308 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: Multiple with dark. 309 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: They just said, how about we go get a Kirby, 310 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: smart player, who's a good tackler, who's mentally tough and 311 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: who fits the Raven way. And NICKI man worry has 312 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: all this talent, but sometimes he turns it off a 313 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: little bit, like it can go off and on, off 314 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: and on. In terms of the motor, he's got to 315 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: get himself, you know. Uh, when he's properly motivated, Man, 316 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: that guy's a monster. Malaka starts, never turns it off. 317 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: He's just ready to play all the time. And that's 318 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: and he's a Raven. And I think what you said 319 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: exactly right, Like they don't they don't overthink things. They say, 320 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: here's a good football player, take them. And when you 321 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: have a strong locker room, you can also take a 322 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: few more chances too. That's something else that should be noted. So, yeah, 323 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens did a great job. I think, you know, 324 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: looking at the looking at the draft board, I made 325 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: mention of the Texans going with Jayden Higgins in the 326 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: second round. They got to tackle Ariante Ursri, who we'll 327 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: see how he plays. I have some some concerns about him. 328 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't play as fluidly as he tests at tackle. 329 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Noel is really explosive slot receiver from Iowa State, 330 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: and then Jalen Smith, the cornerback. And what's interesting there 331 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: is the Texans are saying, we need to get more 332 00:15:58,640 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: weapons for CJ. 333 00:15:59,560 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: Stroud. 334 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: We lost to Von Diggs. Tank Dell's out for this 335 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: year and who knows if he'll ever come back, And 336 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: so the Texans immediately said, we're not waiting. We can't 337 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: afford to piecemeal this over two years. We'll go get 338 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: two wide receivers this year and they're both going to 339 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: have to play. I mean, John Menchi's gonna have to 340 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: fight for his job. Xavier Hutchinson, you know, this guy's 341 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: going to have to fight for his job. Justin Watson 342 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: came in, who's a reliable fourth, fifth wide receiver. So 343 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: Texans not only wanted more competitiveness at that position, competition 344 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: at that position. I think they got these two guys 345 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: to play a lot of snaps. To be honest with you, 346 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: and when you're in the AFC, you got to deal 347 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and Joe Burrow and 348 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: teams that can put up a lot of points. And 349 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: so Nick Cassario basically said, hey, we cannot sleep on 350 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver. We cannot wait until next year. We got 351 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: to get him right now. 352 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, they are doing a really good 353 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: job of kind of loading up doing it. We talk 354 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: about the best team, understand who they are, and they 355 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: make sure that they kind of stick to the script. 356 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 3: And I would say that it's funny for us to 357 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 3: talk about the Dallas Cowboys in this vein, but they 358 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: done a really solid job of sticking to what really 359 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: works for them. Early the first night, we saw them 360 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 3: get Tyler Booker, someone who's a straight bully at the 361 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: point of attack, you see the video and those things. 362 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: And then tonight they go and get Donovan as Araku, 363 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: who can come off the edge. 364 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: They need pass rushing help. 365 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: And first second type attack first. 366 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: I mean, and you just see where, okay, the combinations 367 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: are gonna start to come and how they're gonna be 368 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: able to get after it. You think about Matt Eberflus 369 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: coming back and he wants to kind of get to 370 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 3: playing the style where hey, they're playing fast and they're 371 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: getting after it and it's simplistic. As Iraku brings that 372 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 3: energy and then Chavan, I mean just being able to 373 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: be the big corner. You think about that Tampa two 374 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: style that they can jump into in some of those 375 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: things zone corner, and I just think about his side 376 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: with Trayvon Diggs on the other side, and the ball 377 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: skills and the length and how they can challenge guys. 378 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: In different ways. To me, the Dallas Cowboys have just 379 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: been rock solid when it comes to their picks. 380 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: Bears had four picks in the first sixty two. Colston 381 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: Lovelin we talked about in the first round. Luther Burden, 382 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: another first round discount player. In the second round, I 383 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: thought he was a first round talent. 384 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 2: I just I think you. 385 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: Have to look past the short throws this year and 386 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: you have to go back and watch twenty twenty three 387 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty four intermediate and deep throws to see 388 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: what he can be in an offense. It's different than 389 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: the denk and dunk catch and run stuff that Missouri ran. Hey, 390 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: it was great to take advantage of Burden's ability after 391 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: the catch, but that's not all he is. I think 392 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: he's capable of doing a lot more than that, and 393 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: so you know Caleb Williams is going to give him 394 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity to show that. In Rome with Douonzay being 395 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: on one side is also going to give him a 396 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: chance to, you know, for the Bears to get creative, 397 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: for Ben Johnson to get creative. Remember that all the 398 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: offensive picks here. Ben Johnson, well, I thought was a mastermind. 399 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: I mean I had a lot of respect for everything 400 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: he did, his play calling, his vision for Jamier Gibbs 401 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: and everything he did. He comes into the Bears and 402 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: immediately grabs a different tight end not named Tyler Warren 403 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: Colston Lovelin, who I think is a more athletic, maybe 404 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: a little higher ceiling pass catcher, and then Luther Burden, 405 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: who you know, frankly I thought was the best wide 406 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: receiver not named Travis Hunter in this draft. So now 407 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: the next also on the second, they got Ozzie Trapillo. 408 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: He is a right tackle only, so I'm not sure 409 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: right now he'll probably play swing. They should be okay 410 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: this year with Braxton Jones at left at Darnell Right 411 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: on the right side, but at some point they're gonna 412 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: expect Tropilla to take over. So I do question whether 413 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: or not he can play on the left side, or 414 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: if Darnell Wright can play on the left side. 415 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: That would be a. 416 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: Question I have Shamar Turner I like a lot, a 417 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: little bit undersized as a three technique, But you remember 418 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: another undersized three technique from a weight standpoint, Tommy from Oklahoma, 419 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: Tommy Harris. 420 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: Tommy Harris, Yeah, Tommy Harris. Yeah. 421 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm going way way back. But he was a two 422 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: hundred ninet pound guy that can get up the field 423 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: and disrupt. I think Shamar Turner is a really underrated player. 424 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: I like Shamar Turner a lot. I think the Bears 425 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: have done a nice job. You get four picks in 426 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: the first sixty two, you better do a good job. 427 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 3: Now let's go to the New York Giants, and even 428 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: though they only made one selection tonight, I think it's 429 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: the combination of who they added Darius Alexander to a 430 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 3: front line that has been fortified with the pick of 431 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: Abdul Carter, and then I think about Alexander, Carter, Dexter, 432 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: Lawrence Keavon, Tipadeau, Brian Burns, the New York Giants and 433 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: now cooking with gas on defense. And when the Giants 434 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 3: have been the Giants, it's because their defense has led 435 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: the way I now see a front line d ken 436 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: impose their will on opponents with some of the size 437 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 3: and athleticism and the attributes and then look Jackson Dart. 438 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 3: I understand Jackson Dart because Brian Dayball and Joe Shane 439 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 3: both spent time in Buffalo. And when you have the 440 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: kind of success that they each had in Buffalo with 441 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: a quarterback like Josh Allen, I can see that kind 442 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: of setting your north star. 443 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: That is kind of what you're looking for. 444 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: Physical quarterback that can run, that can do some things 445 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 3: that gives them Jackson Dart. 446 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: So through two days, I think they're solid. Yeah, the 447 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: quarterback has to play. 448 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: Ye at a high level, but opinions, but we've got 449 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: to let them play. 450 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're a much better team because they were able 451 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 3: to kind of stick to build up the defense and 452 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: then they were able to get the quarterback that they want. 453 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: You know, Bucky, the Cardinals have a real boom bust 454 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: draft working right now. My two six point five grade 455 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: players boom bus grades both landing on the Cardinals, Walter 456 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: Nolan and Will Johnson. Walter Nolan is a really explosive 457 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: three down player, but at A and M there were 458 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: questions that dogged him about his you know, his professionalism 459 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: so to speak, his his work ethic off the field. Now, 460 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: I was not challenged when he was on the field, 461 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: but people I talked to you over there just said, 462 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'll trying to get out of practice here 463 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: and there and wanting to stand the the you know, 464 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: stay in the in the trading room here and there, 465 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: and why does this guy not practice and stuff like that. 466 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: But it wasn't a football issue. There's nothing criminal with him. 467 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: There's nothing anything like that. But Walter Nolan went sixteenth, 468 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: probably could have gone top eight, top nine, something like that, 469 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: maybe even higher. Actually I haven't even higher grade. So 470 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: he's there. Really talented, though. Will Johnson goes forty seventh. 471 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: A little bit of a knee issue that is a consideration. 472 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: Never ran never ran a forty time, and teams thought 473 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: he's a little bit slow. Never ran a forty, so 474 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: we're not sure there. Jordan Birch, Jordan Birch is your 475 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: third round pick. He's two hundred and ninety pounds, looks 476 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: the part but is not real and he's a great 477 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: He's a great athlete. Better rusher than run defender. I 478 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: want him to be tougher at the point of a 479 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: time as a run defender. I want him to show 480 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: more grit and tenacity on a regular basis. If you 481 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: don't have that in the NFL, you flame out quickly. 482 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: Like grit and tenacity or something that you just have 483 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: to have, and that's something Jordan Birch is gonna have 484 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: to have. From a talent standpoint, off the charts, Cardinals 485 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: talent is off the charts. Consistency wise, I would argue, 486 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: no one's very consistent. Will Johnson when he played, was 487 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 1: very consistent. But you gotta worry about speed. And then 488 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Birch has gotta you gotta light a fire on him. 489 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: He's got to put a little glass in that diet, 490 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: be a glass muncher and be a little bit you know, 491 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: and just be a little saltier I think to play 492 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL because these are these are tough guys, 493 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: it helps to have a little glass. 494 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: In your diet. 495 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: So it's funny because I know, you know, Chris Ballet 496 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 3: will and we've always been able to talk about ballot 497 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 3: likes the athletic freaks, and so we've always been to 498 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: kind of identify the Indianapolis Colts. Well, I'm gonna say 499 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: John Side in the Seattle Seahawks, they certainly like to 500 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: drink from that same water trough. When you look at 501 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 3: what they've been able to do, Like first they go 502 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 3: and get Gray's Abel in the first round, so that 503 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 3: was Thursday night. But then to come back and you 504 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: look at who they've taken today. 505 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: Nick emm and Worry from. 506 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 3: South Carolina, freak show athlete put on a show at 507 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: the combat was really the star of the combat, King 508 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: of the combine. 509 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: We can call him Elijah Arroyo. 510 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: Think about the talent, the tools that he brings to 511 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 3: the tight end position and how he can be that 512 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: flexed in to get open down the middle of the 513 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 3: field for Sam Donald. And then you top it off 514 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: with Jalen Murroe, who is the freak show of all 515 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: freak shows. 516 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: At quarterback. 517 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: The talent and the tools were there in terms of 518 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 3: man he is an elite running back playing quarterback with 519 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 3: big time arm talent. In terms of being able to 520 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: push it down the field, John Snyder is banking on 521 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: the traits. These tools are going to translate into production 522 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: and that is going to help us get over the top. 523 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 3: And you see it particularly in their day two picks. 524 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 3: They went big on a prototype. Yeah, I thought they 525 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: had a good I thought they had a good day. 526 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: And Jalen Milroe is just so intriguing to me because, look, 527 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: I don't love him as a quarterback based on what 528 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: I saw, I thought he was more like a fourth round. 529 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 2: Pick, a backup. 530 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: But the thing that you can't handicap is players who 531 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: have dynamic speed, like you can't game plan for it. Defensively, 532 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: you can, but it's more on the college level, on 533 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: the high school level. On the pro level, you can't 534 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: really do that as long as you're not too predictable. 535 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: As an offense. It's really hard to handle quarterbacks who break, contain, 536 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: break the pocket, or can run because now nowadays teams 537 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: will just direct snap and it turns into power and 538 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: they're around the corner. And I mean, Jalen Milroe could 539 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: turn into a first down getter when you're in third 540 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: and short as a rookie, they could do something like 541 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: that with it. I'm not convinced that you can't run 542 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: some Taysom Hill type stuff with him early on in 543 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: his career and just find ways to get him to 544 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: ball and you see if he can be explosive. Now 545 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean I don't think like he's certainly worth 546 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: developing see if you can develop the footwork, the timing, 547 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: the decision making. But he's just a special, special athlete, 548 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, Bucky. When you get the five star and 549 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: you see it, five star ath coming out of high school, 550 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: everyone wants to draft, everyone wants to recruit those guys. 551 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: You get the five star atch and we will figure 552 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: it out and we get it. Maybe it'll be a corner, 553 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: maybe it'll be a quarterback, maybe it'll be a wide receiver, 554 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: running back. He's like one of these special five star 555 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: athletes that yeah he's a quarterback, but we just want 556 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: him in the building because you got to figure out 557 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: how we're going to use him. We just know there 558 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: aren't many like him. There's maybe been one two other ones, 559 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: Vic and Lamar Jackson. I don't know anyone else that 560 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: runs like those guys. 561 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: No, And the thing is, I would ask Alabama. I 562 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 3: don't know why they didn't run him more. To be honest, 563 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: I'm with you. That's the thing. Like when people made 564 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: the comparison to Lamar Jacks, Lamar Jackson had fifteen hundred 565 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 3: yard seasons back to back. Jayson Milroe didn't touch the 566 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: ball enough to fully max out his running skills. And 567 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: I would like to see what the Seattle Sears are 568 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: able to do. The good thing about their situation with 569 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 3: Drew Locke already in the building to back up Sam Donald, 570 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: this is one where they actually have an opportunity to 571 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: play and have fun. 572 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: They have a chance to really develop him. 573 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: He can be on the scout team kind of working 574 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: and being the other team quarterback while also working on 575 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: his game, and then next year we can kind of. 576 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: See if he can be a special player. 577 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: But you're right, you would like to think they want 578 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 3: to put the ball in his hands and see if 579 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: they can get something out of them. Last team that 580 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: I want to bring up Tampa Buccaneers and the Buccaneers 581 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 3: I just love it. Look I'm dB tonight. They were 582 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: able to get Benjamin Morrison and then they get Jacob 583 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: pet Both those guys. Both of those guys to me 584 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: are plug and play starters in any situation and in 585 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 3: Todd Bowles defense where they want to zone blitz, they 586 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: want to bring pressure, they want to hang these guys 587 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: in these match zones where they're playing three dep and 588 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: some of this other exotic stuff. Both of these guys 589 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: not only have the instincts and awareness and high Q 590 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: to do it, but man, their physical tools should allow 591 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 3: them have a lot of success in the defense. 592 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: And what about my last one is going to be 593 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: Darren Is. 594 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 2: It's pronounced Mogi right mass from the Jets, You're jests. 595 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: He and Aaron Glenn, the new head coach I thought 596 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: so far, have done a fantastic job. They get armand Membu, 597 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: who is I think a plug and play starting right 598 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: tackle to position. They really need Mason Taylor, who I 599 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: loved tight end out of LSU that I think will 600 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: come in and immediately help justin fields there. And then 601 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: azaria A Thomas, a press, a physical press man corner 602 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: who's tough to throw over, and who is you know, 603 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: can really deal with the slower wide receiver. You know, 604 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: if you're not a quick, shifty wide receiver, if you 605 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: let him travel with big wide receivers, that's one of 606 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: those big wide personal matchup guy. I would not have 607 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: him on one side, Buck, I would travel him if 608 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna play man and man and make sure you 609 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: keep him on the right kind of matchups. So there's 610 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: gonna be some matchups that aren't great for him, I think, 611 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: But you know, he's pretty good at press, at getting 612 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: his hands on people and slowing him down. So I 613 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: think the Jets did a really nice job with their 614 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: three picks they had at first, a second, and a third, 615 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: but I thought they got really solid value and early 616 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: contributors from all three. All three of those guys. 617 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: You know, the big thing with the Jets, I want 618 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: to see Aaron Glenn and talked about one to have 619 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: that three headed monster at running back. 620 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: Maybe they find a. 621 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: Guy that they can throw into the rotation because with 622 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 3: Breeze Hall, Brandon Allen, if you can find another guy 623 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: they really want to get after and run the football 624 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,239 Speaker 3: and be physical. With Justin Fields, who's will call him 625 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 3: half a running back, they can be pretty dynamic. Yeah 626 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: he is offensity with their running game. 627 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Jets are. They could be interesting next year. 628 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: It's not like they don't have talent. The Jets have talent. 629 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: They picked seventh because things just fell apart on them 630 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: last couple of years. But the Jets, the Jets could 631 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: be a problem by next year if Justin Fields, you know, 632 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: can have it really an above average year. So, especially 633 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: if they keep drafting like this, one team to keep 634 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: an eye on for tomorrow. I think is going to 635 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: be the San Francisco forty nine ers. They have a 636 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: billion draft picks. They've got eleven picks in this draft. 637 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: They've already picked four players. They got two forced, two fists, 638 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: three sevens, three sevens. They're they're not going to use 639 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: two forces and two fists. They're going to figure out 640 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: exactly who they want and they will use those draft 641 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: picks to get four picks will turn into two and 642 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: they'll get two guys that they love. 643 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: That's what they're gonna do. Ye knows. Let's see if 644 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: there's anybody that is available. 645 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: Like anybody that you're brewing on that you think could 646 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: be or should be coming off the board pretty quickly. 647 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: Well, Bucky, I would say, you know, I'll start at 648 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: running back Dylan Samson and bea Shaal Tooton or two 649 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: running backs that I think should come off the board 650 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: fairly quickly. Actually, this is a great running back draft. 651 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: You got Trevor et Tien and Jayden Blue, two guys 652 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 1: who can explosive plays out of the backfield. Trevor Ettien, 653 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: I think is a little more dynamic in terms of 654 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: three downs. Cam Scattabo, everyone's favorite. I know you're a fan. 655 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: I am too. I think he's a good football player. 656 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: Every time you watch him. He's the hardest guy to tackle. 657 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: It's Ashton gent and then Cam Scattaboy. Those are the 658 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: two hardest running backs to tackle in college football. I 659 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: think those are guys to keep in mind to keep 660 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: an eye on. Where Will Quinn yours and should Or 661 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: Sanders fall and Kylin McCord, Will Howard, Riley Leonard. These 662 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: are name guys. It's going to be interesting to see 663 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: where they end up. On the defensive side of the board. 664 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: I think guys to keep him an eye on would 665 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: include Danny Stutzman, good linebacker, very good tackler from Oklahoma. 666 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: Josh Farmer, the big defensive tackle from Florida State. Fourth 667 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: rounds about where he should go. Brayden Swinson pass pass 668 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: rusher from LSU, and Darren Sorel pass rusher from Texas. 669 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: These are some of the guys I can tell you 670 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: the defensive tackle this this is gonna be filled with 671 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: defensive tackles tomorrow, edge rushers. We'll see a big run 672 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: on the running backs, and you're about to see a 673 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: ton of linebackers start coming off the board. We're gonna 674 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: be here for every pick of every round, we're gonna 675 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: say a lot of linebackers' names, a lot of defensive 676 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: tackles names, and a lot of running back names. 677 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: A lot of running backs. 678 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 3: Day three is about developmental players, special team standouts, guys 679 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: that are going to have to make the team by 680 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: doing it on the third phase of the game. 681 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: And so look, we look forward to everyone coming back. 682 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: We're gonna have a rap up show at the end 683 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 3: of the weekend where we talk about all the things 684 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: that took place over draft weekend. Until then, make sure 685 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: you check out all the coverage NFL Media, NFL Network, 686 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: NFL dot Com. Until next time, I'm Bucky Broksest Lancy 687 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: and this what's moved to stick