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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we've got a little Thursday

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Speaker 1: night football from Lucas Oil Stadium. Yeah, the game wasn't played,

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Speaker 1: but we had football players doing things that matter for

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Yes, it feels like we're back on a

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Speaker 1: night recap. I got Nick Schuk, who was in the

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Speaker 1: stadium the whole day, and he's made it back to

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Speaker 1: his hotel room where he's broadcasting from a tiny microphone

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Speaker 1: that we ordered on Amazon twenty four hours ago so

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Speaker 1: he could join us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Nick Schuk, Thank you for getting that set here.

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Speaker 2: Poorly lit in this hotel room, but we're making it happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really excited. Let's just recap this day later

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Speaker 1: in the show. Also, I'm gonna play a conversation I

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Speaker 1: had with Nate Tice looking ahead to the next three days,

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Speaker 1: who we're kind of looking at throughout the rest of

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Speaker 1: the combine. But you know, we've already got results to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Shogogy by the way, Like, what is it

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Speaker 1: like there in the stadium, Like what are you are

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Speaker 1: you like a stopwatch guy?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing there for seven hours?

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Speaker 2: I'm not a stopwatch guy? I go off the official results.

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Speaker 2: I stood up in the suite. What I really do

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Speaker 2: is watch the drills and take notes on every rep

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Speaker 2: of every player because it allows me to filter through.

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Speaker 2: And then some guys pop over time. You know, Tristan

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Speaker 2: Wurf's pops over time, the Cam Jurgens pops just insially

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Speaker 2: with the eye tests being there and seeing all the

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Speaker 2: reps and I'm taking notes and I'm putting together the

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Speaker 2: All Combined Team. And if you go back in history,

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Speaker 2: I've nailed some guys that people weren't paying attention to.

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Speaker 2: So check it out when it comes out next week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love.

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Speaker 1: All Combined Team is one of the best pieces of

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Speaker 1: content we do on NFL dot Com all year. One

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Speaker 1: of the signature shook pieces. Well, then you should get going.

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Speaker 1: I mean it'd be silly if I did. Let's hear, like,

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Speaker 1: give me a standout to start with.

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Speaker 2: All right, So tonight was defensive linemen, edge rushers, and linebackers,

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Speaker 2: and I felt, as many have said about this draft class,

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Speaker 2: the depth is in the defensive line and specifically the

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Speaker 2: the defensive tackle. We didn't get a lot of the

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Speaker 2: guys that you've heard their names because they weren't participating.

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Speaker 2: He had the two guys from Michigan. He had Walter

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Speaker 2: we had to find some other guys, and we found

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Speaker 2: some other guys. My honorable mentions list for this group

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Speaker 2: is like nine players long, because I had a really

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Speaker 2: hard time choosing between them. But the two guys I

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Speaker 4: Number one CJ.

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Speaker 2: West from Indiana, who had a really good testing session.

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Speaker 2: He ran a four nine to five forty with a

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Speaker 2: one point seventy three second ten yard split, which is

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Speaker 2: very good. At three hundred and sixteen pounds, he jumped

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Speaker 2: thirty three inches. The guy's kind of an athletic freak,

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Speaker 2: and then he ran through his drills and just looked

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Speaker 2: powerful within his framework. He was controlled, he was strong.

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Speaker 2: I really liked what I saw and I could see

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Speaker 4: At the next level.

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Speaker 2: The other guy in that group Tyler Williams from Ohio State, which,

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Speaker 2: as somebody who follows Ohio State passionately, is a lifelong

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Speaker 2: Ohio State fan. I knew that he was going to

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Speaker 2: be proven to me, and he did it in every

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Speaker 2: single drill. He had the best workout I think of

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Speaker 2: any interior defensive lineman out there. Just every rep of

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Speaker 2: And eventually my notes they go from like great rep,

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Speaker 2: that type of thing. As I'm typing them along, I

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Speaker 2: get halfway through it, I'm like, God, Tyleak's the real deal.

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Speaker 2: This is exactly what I saw from him in college,

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Speaker 2: and he's crushing it. I think he did a fantastic

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned with Wes there, he was only the eighth

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Speaker 3: And this is why I love having you there.

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Speaker 1: You're in the stadium because you know, you could do

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Speaker 1: the relative athletics scores and we will talk about that.

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Speaker 1: That's all really important, That's what the combine's all about.

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Speaker 1: But you're watching all the drills. I really like that.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think these two guys, if they helped themselves,

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Speaker 1: Don't think he heard himself at all today, had a solidate.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think these two guys might fit in?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's usually where I struggle, because you know, the

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Speaker 2: draft is kind of a crap shoot. But I think

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Speaker 2: about teams that need help stopping the run and need

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Speaker 3: Round wise, What do you think too.

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Speaker 4: I think Tyler.

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Speaker 2: I think Lance had him going as high as thirty first.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people have him in the second round.

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Speaker 2: I could see him sneaking into the back end of

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Speaker 4: But if anything, he's a day too. Guy West is the.

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Speaker 2: One where I'm going to have a hard time putting

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Speaker 2: my finger on because he played at Kent State. Prior

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Speaker 2: So I think he's a Round two three guy at

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Speaker 1: I was texting with someone about him and they said,

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Speaker 1: he's the he's a classic. Okay, let's go back and

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Speaker 1: watch a little more tape. Yes, exactly after this that

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Speaker 1: those Shamar Stewart blew up the combine, one of those

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Speaker 1: him out of one eighteen hundred and two defense of

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Speaker 1: he came in third. I think it was Mario Williams

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Speaker 2: About the workout, Well, that's the funny thing is that

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Speaker 2: So you might catch avert, but you don't know if

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Speaker 2: it feels like an incomplete review. Testing off the charts,

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Speaker 2: everybody's gonna go and the tape.

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Speaker 3: The tape wasn't good. I mean again, four and a

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Speaker 1: Depending on who you talk to, you can see the

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Speaker 1: And it's the type of draft prospect that we end

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Speaker 1: first Samar Stewart conversation again. One five to eight ten

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Speaker 3: Talking to more people like the tape isn't great.

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Speaker 1: He looks like a guy who just doesn't know really

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Speaker 3: But the ones I've spoken to.

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Speaker 1: And people that I trust too like his tape's rougher

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Speaker 1: going to be an incredible projection. But Jeremiah had him

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Speaker 1: test well. But now you know, you got Buger McFarlane

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Speaker 1: be a fascinating conversation where he's just crazy athletic, which

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Speaker 1: you saw today, but the tape doesn't really match up.

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Speaker 1: Can you be patient enough? I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you want to comp with the

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Speaker 2: Mario Williams career. Mario Williams was the shocking pick that

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Speaker 2: course of his career he had a solid career, but

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Speaker 2: he never quite lived up to the initial expectation that

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Speaker 2: comes with being a number one overall pick. It's hard

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Speaker 2: to hold another player to that standard of that expectation.

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Speaker 2: And I also think that miss is pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and the situation at Texas A and M it's hard

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Speaker 2: to evaluate because they had so much turnover. You know,

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Speaker 2: he ends his career with Mike Elko as the head coach.

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Speaker 2: Brier was Jim both Saure. It was a program that

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Speaker 2: had just across the board not lived up to expectation.

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Speaker 2: They put together legendary recruiting classes and did not produce.

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to hold that much against him.

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Speaker 2: Having said that, spending a top five pick on a

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna take.

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Speaker 2: Somebody with the big stones to go up there and

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Speaker 2: do that if they feel that confidently about him. This

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Speaker 2: is also why we have pro days and everything else.

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Speaker 2: So the process is not done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tonight, we'll just focus on on the combine stuff.

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Speaker 1: Although I will say if Mario Williams went seventh, that

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Speaker 1: was a good pick.

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Speaker 3: He had a good career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a good player, just first in that job.

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Speaker 1: He just was a bowl. It was just a bold

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Speaker 1: not on pace to have as good a career nearly

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Speaker 5: And to give me.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna go away from the defensive interiors since

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Speaker 2: we already did that, We'll go to edge. Interesting group

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Speaker 2: because a lot of different archetypes. James Pierce laid it

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Speaker 2: out with a four four seven forty that immediately grabbed

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Speaker 2: Even in the drills, I will say started well, handled

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Speaker 4: Not as good.

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Speaker 2: You get into some of the later stuff and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna disguy's blitz is that type of thing, send

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Speaker 2: a sim pressure, that sort of thing, But when it

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Speaker 2: came to athleticism and body control, he passes flying colors.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, he looked like the guy that you

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Speaker 2: probably gonna compare it to Brian Burns. He's not quite

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Speaker 4: But he's He's somebody who define stood out to me.

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Speaker 2: He'll end up on the team as well, and then

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Speaker 2: landon Jackson, who's a lot different. But the tape really

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Speaker 2: I love the tape. His physicality, the way he's able

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Speaker 2: I thought he crushed it. Athleticism on full display, fluids,

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Speaker 2: if he can.

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Speaker 5: Make a difference.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because the drills more correlate to the football,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of guys in this draft

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Speaker 1: good measurable stuff, not necessarily great tape. You hear some

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Speaker 1: frustration from Pierce that you're expecting this explosiveness and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't totally show up on tape. His vertical actually was bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting because most of the other numbers, and you

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Speaker 1: end of the relative athletics score, but not as crazy

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Speaker 1: Really okay, and yeah, the vertical for Landon Jackson actually

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Speaker 1: was even higher than Jamar Stewart. He went forty and

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Speaker 1: that big kind of seen as like a second round

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Speaker 1: type of pick. But helped himself. Today, give me someone

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Speaker 1: else that you liked that there too, We'll.

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Speaker 2: Move to linebackers. Actually know it will stay on edge

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Speaker 2: real quick, because there was a guy who almost made

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Speaker 2: monounorable mentions. David Walker from Central Arkansas. Central Arkansas. So

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Speaker 2: this guy lower ceiling in terms of pure physical ability

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Speaker 2: a major power for school. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: he went through every drill with polish of a guy

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Speaker 2: and how to use it. It wasn't until like his last

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Speaker 2: rep that he even made a mistake. Every other drill

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Speaker 2: prior was just like a fundamentally sound, very controlled rep

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Speaker 2: good ref of him. Gouh, there's another good ref of him.

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Speaker 2: Like he's, like I said, lower ceiling player in terms

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Speaker 2: landed on my radar. I had a ton of honorable

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Speaker 2: mentions with this group as well. I thought Jordan Birch

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Speaker 2: from Oregon had a pretty good day. Jack Sawyer, for

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Speaker 2: the most part, had a very good day. You can

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Speaker 2: he played at Ohio.

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Speaker 1: One note on him, though, he was in the third

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Speaker 1: percentile for his arm length, which it's like it's arm length.

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Speaker 1: But I forget who the other comps were, but they

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Speaker 1: only found like two players that even had reasonable NFL

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Speaker 1: and it's a theme of this draft if you're just

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Speaker 1: starting to catch up. And I'm including myself in that,

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Speaker 1: there are so many different opinions on all these guys.

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Speaker 1: Jack Sawyer is a guy who some people have close

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't spend a first round pick on him.

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Speaker 1: Right, No, But I'm saying like some people think like

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Speaker 1: he's barely barely draftable. I think some of these guys

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Speaker 1: I did want to mention Donovan at Zaraku of Boston

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Speaker 1: because the tape is good, and he showed that that

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Speaker 2: His drills were good too. He was in my honorable Mentions.

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Speaker 2: I want to fit him into there as well. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't great one hundred percent consistent, but you could see it.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 1: And Derek Harmon, the interior guy from Oregon, only ran

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Speaker 1: did run the forty fast. And then Princely Uma Mayan,

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Speaker 2: Him and Harmon actually had similar workouts and when it

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Speaker 2: it's there, like I totally see it there, but it

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Speaker 2: was just inconsistent. It was sloppy reps here and there,

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Speaker 2: but I see the upside, especially with Princely when it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked like a little stiff, but a big vertical,

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Speaker 1: the linebackers. I think I know where you're going with

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird group.

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Speaker 2: You know, looking back last year, we had Edge Cooper

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Speaker 3: And he did.

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Speaker 2: That guy didn't really exist in this group. The best guy,

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised. The best guy I found was Giad Campbell

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Speaker 2: ran a four or five to two, ten to seven

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Speaker 2: He also was a guy who played different spots because

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Speaker 2: So he's got experience doing both, which is interesting to

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Speaker 2: looked really good in coverage. He had soft hands, he

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Speaker 2: looked like a natural back there. Yeah, but he's also

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Speaker 2: a guy who has experienced, you know, playing edge. In fact,

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Speaker 2: he stuck around after everybody was done and did an

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Speaker 2: extra bag drill as an edge rusher, just to kind

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Speaker 2: So he had the best workout of that group. But

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Speaker 2: a lot of these linebackers were really hard to separate.

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was watching a lot of the

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Speaker 1: Okay, but that's why we got shook in the building

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Speaker 3: The edge rusher.

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Speaker 1: it's a position where he's so clearly the best off

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Speaker 1: I know teams don't want to draft three down linebackers

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Speaker 3: We'll see how high he goes.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that he's so clearly the best that

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Speaker 2: Had to do team fits and stuff with this, and

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Speaker 2: his net issue, and if you need a guy who

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Speaker 2: It's just that where they're picking and what they need,

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Speaker 2: he's not going to be there. DJ's got him as

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Speaker 2: I toltally saw why.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I love that LSU is Braden Swinson. By the way,

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Speaker 2: It's funny because like a lot of these guys, it's

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Speaker 2: of this group.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that there's a bunch of the winners, we

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Speaker 1: don't need to do losers from the combine. I guess

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Speaker 1: the combine slightly was a loser because of all these

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Speaker 1: guys who are now not testing, you know, some had injuries,

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Speaker 1: some just said it was a personal decision. Jalen Walker,

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Speaker 1: for instance, who's looking like he could be anywhere from

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Speaker 1: pick two to you know, he could be top ten,

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Speaker 1: more of an edge rusher, but also would have worked

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Speaker 1: out with the off ball linebackers like he didn't work out,

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Speaker 1: Mike Green, Michael Williams from George. A lot of high

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Speaker 1: potential picks did not work out. And then I guess

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Speaker 1: Abdul Carter kind of you know, a downside. The last

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours, we find out that he's got a

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Speaker 1: stress reaction, and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus says he's not

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Speaker 1: planning to undergo surgery, that he will work out at

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Speaker 1: his pro day, and Rosenhouse even said I'm confident he's

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Speaker 1: going to go number one. I'm like, wow, how is

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Speaker 1: this these meetings going with the Titans. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: because he was the odds on favorite to go number one,

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Speaker 1: but it's just a little not not what you want.

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Speaker 1: Obviously during combine week for the potential number one overall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, the stress reaction in the foot

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Speaker 4: that concerns me.

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Speaker 2: I think about like past players or dealt with footagehes

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Speaker 2: and think about like Sammy Watkins and his foot is shoes,

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Speaker 2: Like it's something that I feel like you want to

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Speaker 2: get taken care of now, as opposed to you know,

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Speaker 2: letting it all right. Well we're just gonna move on

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Speaker 2: without it. It's not causing me any pain. Well, what

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Speaker 2: if he gets worse and then that causes concern with

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Speaker 2: teams in your draft stock falls?

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Speaker 1: You know you want well, you want to do that

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Speaker 1: pro day. That's the thing is he wants to put

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Speaker 1: up some big numbers.

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Speaker 2: Especial because he' off that shoulder injury that was plaguing

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Speaker 2: him throout the playoff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then maybe you maybe you get it after that.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's just something we'll be tracking throughout the process.

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Speaker 1: Drew Rosenhaus, By the way, big winner uh on NFL

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Speaker 1: Daily because he stopped me outside of seat almost and

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Speaker 1: said he appreciated the one on one listen.

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Speaker 3: And so uh oh that's going to stick with me.

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Speaker 4: Look at that feather and Greg's cap.

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Speaker 1: There we go, before we go, just a couple of

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Speaker 1: little not even little. They usually would be leading the

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Speaker 1: show with this a couple of items from the rest

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Speaker 1: of the league that the Chiefs plan to use the

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Speaker 1: franchise tag on Trey Smith. That was according to Ian Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: I am curious. You know they did tag and trade

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Speaker 1: l Jerius Snead last year, so Greg, it's possible.

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Speaker 4: Give me my flowers. We did it on the tag primer.

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Speaker 4: I told you they.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's different opinions, and you were right.

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Speaker 1: And Trey Smith number two on my top one on one.

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Speaker 1: He will not make it to free agency. Neither will

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Speaker 1: t Higgins, who's number one. That's usually how these things go.

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Speaker 1: And then looks Matthew Stafford. I'd put him number one

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Speaker 1: if he was a if he was just a free agent.

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Speaker 1: That's how much quarterbacks matter. A lot lot going on

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Speaker 1: in the Stafford world dueling reports since we've last uh taped.

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport uh put it out there following up on

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Speaker 1: a report was originally from Jordan Schultz that Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: the the owner minority owner of the Raiders, you met

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Speaker 1: with Stafford at this Montana ski resort some disagreement which

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Speaker 1: was hashed out at a Starbucks. You guys probably know about.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're here team rap Sheet all the way.

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Speaker 1: You know, uh, who was it? Danie O'Neal put out

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Speaker 1: the the nickname for for Schultz Air Jordan, but e

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Speaker 1: r r uh just based on the reporting. Hated the reporting,

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Speaker 1: uh from from that from that man during the Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Just a lot of rough stuff.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, either way, these guys are meeting, the Raiders

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Speaker 1: are really pushing.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Vic Taffer from The Athletic also said the Raiders aren't

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Speaker 1: interested in Darnold at are all, which might inform.

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Speaker 3: How interested they are in Stafford.

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Speaker 1: So this thing is moving forward to the point where

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Speaker 1: you're like, wow, like something's gonna happen. But at the

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Speaker 1: eleventh hour, here we hear from rap Sheet and a

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Speaker 1: couple other places too with similar in Pete Schrager too

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Speaker 1: with a similar reporter that McVeigh and Stafford have talked

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Speaker 1: over the last twenty four hours and don't count out

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Speaker 1: the Rams from getting this done, and maybe the leverage

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Speaker 1: of it all and maybe they meet in the middle.

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Speaker 1: To me, it feels nick and I'll end my long

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Speaker 1: rant here that it's Raiders or Rams. I'd be kind

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Speaker 1: of stunned if the Giants end up getting this thing done,

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Speaker 1: and it's kind of gonna be up to Stafford on

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Speaker 1: some level, right Yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, And I had this conversation with some people last night.

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Speaker 2: The fit doesn't make sense for the Raiders unless you're

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady, because Tom Brady knows one speed, which is win,

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Speaker 2: and I want to win now. But like, if you

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Speaker 2: look at that franchise, they're not just a quarterback away,

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Speaker 2: and you acquire Matt Stafford when you're a quarterback away,

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Speaker 2: can the quarterback change the picture dramatically? Absolutely, Jade Daniels

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Speaker 2: and Washington, But it doesn't feel like a slam dunk

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Speaker 2: that makes all the sense in the world type of fit.

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Speaker 2: Yet the pursuit is very strong, and it sounds like

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Speaker 2: we're close to that potentially happening. I also thought when

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Speaker 2: all this started that this is a bit of a

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Speaker 2: staring contest between Stafford and the Rams. You know, how

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Speaker 2: long are you know, how far are we going to

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Speaker 2: go before we figure things out, hash it out and

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Speaker 2: stay together. Also, the Rams don't have a backup plan

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Speaker 2: and they're in a much better position to contend right now.

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Speaker 2: Why would you just let him go? Via trade or

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Speaker 2: via that sort of situation than keep him. It just

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Speaker 2: doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. And

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Speaker 2: yet here we are.

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Speaker 1: I think the backup plan is Aaron Rodgers and or

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo for what that's worth. Frightening, Yeah, it's really fascinating.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: And yet it's not just Stafford, it's Pete Carroll and

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Speaker 1: Stafford and a better front office. So they would be

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Speaker 1: trying to win right away. And we've seen teams turn

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Speaker 1: things around fast. You gave a perfect example in the Commanders. Now,

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Speaker 1: are you competing for a Super Bowl like the Rams

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Speaker 1: could potentially do? No, probably not, but you could be

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Speaker 1: winning games, and I think that's an attractive option.

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Speaker 2: But winning yourself out of a draft position for your

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Speaker 2: successor there could be long term ramifications. I guess this

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Speaker 2: is what you tied yourself to when you hired Peek

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Speaker 2: Carol though.

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Speaker 1: So I think the decision for Stafford and we'll see,

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Speaker 1: will be something to the effect of how much money

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Speaker 1: less do I take to play for the Rams. Like basically,

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Speaker 1: if I'm getting sixty from the Raiders and forty from

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Speaker 1: the Rams, I'm probably going, you know, like that's too

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Speaker 1: big of a gap to make up.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do this thing with the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: If it's fifty three for the Raiders and I can

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Speaker 1: get the Rams to go up to forty five and

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Speaker 1: guarantee some money into year two, maybe that's close enough

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Speaker 1: for me and both sides are happy. We will see

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Speaker 1: you know, poor Eric, you know he's got to take

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Speaker 1: care of it his infant son. And we're going to

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Speaker 1: be on Stafford Emergency podcast watch Nick Chuck, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. You will be on the coverage on NFL

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Speaker 1: dot Com doing this all combine team, taking notes in

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Speaker 1: the stadium all weekend.

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Speaker 3: Good luck to you and stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: The marathon has only begun, and I hope that I

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Speaker 2: don't have to get another plane with the flu like

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Speaker 2: I did when I left New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: I hope that too, I had that same experience. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, we're going to talk to Nate Tye about

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Speaker 1: some players to watch for the next three days of

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Speaker 1: combine workouts.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that right after the break.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we are here with one of my favorite people

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Speaker 1: in the business, hell favorite people in the country.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to go international with him. It's Nate

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Speaker 3: Tice of Yahoo Sports.

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Speaker 1: Football three oh one check it out wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Is great to be with you, Dan, great to be here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: I maybe have not a leader of the category of

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Speaker 6: countries that use the metric system. Mmmm so yeah, just

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Speaker 6: the United States, though I'm very happy to be on

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Speaker 6: the leader part.

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 1: So, okay, we we had, you know, the first workouts

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Speaker 1: of the combine. We're taping this before and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a preview of the rest of the week of

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Speaker 1: the skill positions and talk a little offensive line, little

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Speaker 1: defensive back. But I gotta be honest, like when we

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Speaker 1: did that, when we did the episode I did with

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Speaker 1: Tom Peli Sarah talking about like my top one oh one.

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Speaker 1: We had done that a few years ago, and I

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Speaker 1: almost wanted, I don't know what it says about me.

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Speaker 1: I wanted some Nate Tice criticism. I want the people

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Speaker 1: closest to me to tell me where I'm wrong. Also,

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Speaker 1: I feel like the free agents were closer to equal footing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're much taller than me, but when we're

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Speaker 1: talking draft in a couple of minutes, it's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm learning from you.

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Speaker 3: But this way we can go back and forth.

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Speaker 1: Little are there any are there anyone's on the free

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Speaker 1: agent list that you thought were too high, too low

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Speaker 1: that you want to make fun of me.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm glad you had Milton Williams very high because

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Speaker 6: I feel like, one he's gonna get really he's gonna

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Speaker 6: get paid. So that also makes you look smart. I

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Speaker 6: like your DJ Reid ranking. You had him at twelve.

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Speaker 6: I actually really like that. I think he's kind of gone,

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Speaker 6: you know, under the radar. I think he could be

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Speaker 6: a very good number two for some NFL teams.

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Speaker 3: Agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, this is one where I'll send out

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Speaker 1: lists and I get some feedback and I'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're probably right.

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Speaker 3: Like I'll move up DJ read a little bit. People

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Speaker 3: love them some DJ Read.

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Speaker 5: He's good.

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Speaker 6: I thought Justin Reid might be a little higher. You

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Speaker 6: have a twenty six I because he's just a very

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Speaker 6: sound safety and could do a lot a lot. Well

640
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Speaker 6: maybe not a star, but there's a lot of teams

641
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Speaker 6: right now that maybe struggle on the back end because

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Speaker 6: they got at a little too cute on the back end,

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Speaker 6: and Read kind of really like makes cleans things up

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Speaker 6: in a lot of people like his leadership.

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Speaker 3: Ste He's also a rare dude that can thrive specials.

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Speaker 1: He's thrived and literally changed and shored up two different

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Speaker 1: defensive systems and is young. That is a combination that

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Speaker 1: is very rarely in free agency. I think I'm scarred

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Speaker 1: because I always rank safeties really high on this list

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Speaker 1: because like, they matter, and I'm ranking guys based on

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Speaker 1: how they are at their position, and it happens, right

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Speaker 1: and they just get like six million dollars and they're

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Speaker 1: sitting out there for two weeks.

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Speaker 3: But you're right, justin read's great.

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Speaker 6: No, I liked a lot of these, Like it's hard

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Speaker 6: to because there's guys that like, okay, even right now

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Speaker 6: as I'm scrolling, like Josh Myers, you have a thirty seven.

658
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Speaker 6: It's center for the separate packers, and I think they're

659
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 6: very fine with moving on from them. They they might

660
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 6: get creative at that position, which is kind of something TVD.

661
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 6: They might move Zach tom over to center, like from

662
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Speaker 6: right tackle, which is something to keep an eye on.

663
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Speaker 1: But the best tackle in the league that Will Anderson

664
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Speaker 1: faced apparently according to Will, which I thought was a

665
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: cool answer.

666
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Speaker 6: That was a cool answer, I know, and It made

667
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 6: me go, man, I got to ask that question more,

668
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 6: who's the best player you've played against?

669
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Speaker 5: It's such a stable question. But Kevin Clark that Yeah,

670
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 5: it was a great Kevin Clark question.

671
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Speaker 1: No.

672
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Speaker 6: With Myers, though, it's like, oh, yeah, he's thirty seven,

673
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 6: But yeah, that's actually fair, you know. I mean just

674
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 6: because based on this free agency class, like he is

675
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 6: an above average I actually might have him over Dolmen

676
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 6: after Dolmen, but it's some like I'm saying.

677
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: With Falcon Center, which is who's getting a lot of buzz,

678
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: It's like a guy who was the top of the

679
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: maybe interior.

680
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 6: Line because I'm scarred by the twenty twenty three Falcons

681
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 6: so much in my hype for them, And then I

682
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 6: think Dolman's play was very inconsistent that year that I

683
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 6: still have that, and the last year he battle a

684
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 6: little bit of injuries and I like him, but it's like,

685
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 6: if you go between him and Myers, I'm kind of like, yeah,

686
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 6: either pick either one. I would have them a little

687
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 6: bit closer, I would say for that.

688
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: In Bill Simmons parlance, no one lost more money on

689
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: their twenty twenty three Falcon stock than you.

690
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: You kind of went all in. You did settle it

691
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: as it was sinking.

692
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you stuck with it and hard and now you

693
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: still stick with Arthur Smith just a little.

694
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Speaker 6: I do, I'll do, yeah, Arthur Smith. And then I

695
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 6: was very excited to see a little Desmond Ritterer with

696
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 6: the Raiders. So yeah, that was the last remnants of

697
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 6: that team. Yeah, they were there. It's also I took

698
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 6: the last three chips I had, you know, after losing

699
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 6: most of it on the Falcons that year, and put

700
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Speaker 6: him on Drake May, which is like those.

701
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: You've got a million wins, a wide portfolio.

702
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: You almost podcast as much as me. Your one, your one,

703
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Speaker 3: you know.

704
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Speaker 5: Oh no, it was no, it's one. I've learned a

705
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 5: lot from that one.

706
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 6: It was like it taught me how to like, hey,

707
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 6: you know, you gotta be realistic about where you have.

708
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 6: You have these guys tiered, but I don't even going back,

709
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 6: Like it's kind of great because I can go chronologically,

710
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 6: but like Chase Young at forty one, I don't know,

711
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 6: like ranking wise, where I would even put him if

712
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 6: I were to do a top one hundred or one

713
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 6: hundred and one. But he's so interesting and I thought

714
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 6: your write up was perfect, like kind of like the

715
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 6: Clowney role, like he's just gonna be a mercenary. And

716
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Speaker 6: I can totally picture him in that role a year

717
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 6: after you were taking one two year deals and then

718
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 6: being that kind of I would say secondary rusher, but

719
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 6: part of a really good pass rush group.

720
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Speaker 1: So I hope, I hope he gets a good year.

721
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the word is, smarter. I think

722
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: Clowney got better and better as he got older. I

723
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: always thought he was underrated, So to me, he has

724
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: a poor man's did that be in clowny? But and

725
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: he have that sort of career because I think there's

726
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: frustrations where he's going off script a little. He has

727
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: signed pretty big negative plays along with all that pocket pushing.

728
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: But a fun player to.

729
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 5: One, Yeah no, and that's that was the Saint's kind

730
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 5: of as a whole.

731
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 6: A lot of guys, especially on the back end then

732
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 6: you know, maybe a little indifferent to tackling and everything.

733
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 6: And I told you just before the show, but I

734
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Speaker 6: love that you're one.

735
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Speaker 1: Oh.

736
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Speaker 6: One was Nick Chubb because I just thought that was

737
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 6: a great shout out. But another guy I actually cares

738
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Speaker 6: DeMarcus Lawrence.

739
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: One.

740
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Speaker 6: I didn't realize he was thirty three, so that's maybe

741
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 6: on me out though maybe he was thirty one or thirty,

742
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 6: but it makes sense. He's been in the week since fourteen. Uh,

743
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 6: he's a guy too. I always thought he's a very

744
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 6: good run defender as well. But he's another guy that

745
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 6: can like could be a nice contributor for somebody on

746
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 6: a one year deal, like I think kind of people

747
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 6: because he got hurt, is kind of just he goes

748
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 6: kind of goes him in my.

749
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: Top twenty at first, and then I looked at the

750
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: history of guys off Liz Frank injuries that age, and

751
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: so I just bumpedhim down there. One of my favorite

752
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: players of the last ten years. I thought he was

753
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: so underrated for a long time, and then he was

754
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: properly right. People understood that he was like hull of

755
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: very good, one of the best Cowboys.

756
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 3: In the last twenty years, the most consistent defense, and

757
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: so yeah.

758
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: He could end up having that Kalaeis Campbell like, oh wait,

759
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: he's still really good. Oh wait, he's still underpaid for

760
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: the next four or five years. So I hope I'm wrong.

761
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: They're one of my favorite plays, all right. I want

762
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Speaker 1: to get to the prospects the top fifty. So good,

763
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: let's get to the prospects. So let's go in chronological order. Okay,

764
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Speaker 1: Friday's the defensive backs in tight ends. We haven't talked

765
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Speaker 1: about the tight ends at all on the show. It's

766
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: a fascinating class and I'm going to use some of

767
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, my friend Daniel Jeremiah's rankings. I haven't seen

768
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Speaker 1: your big board three point zero come out yet. I'm

769
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. Okay, yes, his two point oh's

770
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: out and it's crazy. He's got two in the top ten,

771
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren and Colston Lovely, and then another couple in

772
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Speaker 1: the top fifty. So that's a that's a tight end

773
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: heavy top fifty. He threw out the grand comparison in

774
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Speaker 1: the Tyler Ward. Now just looking at this week, kind

775
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: of what are you looking for from those two guys,

776
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Speaker 1: assuming they do work out.

777
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Speaker 6: You know what's funny is I interviewed Tyler Tyler Warren

778
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 6: at the Super Bowl and you.

779
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 5: Know who he I don't know.

780
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 6: I can't remember if the question was who he compares

781
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 6: himself to or who he studies. And I think you'll

782
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 6: like the answer, Jeremy Shockey, Yeah, which I was like, Okay,

783
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 6: I love that answer, and then he said Kittle was

784
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 6: the other one.

785
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 5: And that's where some comparisons too.

786
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: Well.

787
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 5: Obviously with tight ends, it's an athletic position.

788
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 6: So you want these guys to test like freaks, and

789
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 6: then if they don't test like freaks at USO, I'll

790
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 6: go okay, we got to go back because they will.

791
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: Loveland tests like a freak.

792
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, he can run, you know, he has some movement

793
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 6: ability a lot like Laporta. I actually even think he

794
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 6: like his film was even slightly better than laporter coming

795
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 6: out of college.

796
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 5: Maybe the last year's philm.

797
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 6: The one thing with the Michigan guys is they all

798
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 6: dropped off this year and it might be the post

799
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 6: Harbaugh hangover. It might be Ben Herbert, their strength coach

800
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 6: left and now he's with the Chargers. I actually got

801
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 6: to interview Harbor yesterday, but out he was my strength

802
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 6: coach at Wisconsin, Ben Herbert, so it's like, oh, I

803
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 6: actually know this guy, but.

804
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 5: He's had a big impacts.

805
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 6: So all those Michigan guys kind of took a step

806
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 6: back this year, and that's why everyone's trying to gauge.

807
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 6: It's like twenty twenty three was great, so loved one's

808
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 6: included with that, and that was poor quarterback play. He

809
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 6: went from going with a first rounder and JJ McCarthy

810
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 6: to insert quarterback name here that Michigan had this year.

811
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Speaker 6: But Lovelin is more of a receiving only tight end,

812
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 6: not a good blocker in line. I actually like him

813
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 6: though a lot, with a maybe a Shannan team that

814
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 6: actually the offense I want him with more than anyone

815
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 6: is probably the Seahawks, okay, because we're getting with Kubiak there.

816
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 6: I picture him as that kind of tight end. My

817
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 6: comparison for him has been Owned Daniels from the old

818
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 6: Texas tight end.

819
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 5: Another badger, but I've.

820
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: Ted on Jeremiah's lessened a little rich for this kind

821
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: of play.

822
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Speaker 5: That's kind of profate when for tight ends.

823
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 6: For me, if you can't, if I don't project you

824
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 6: in line, I can't bump you too high, I look

825
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 6: at you more in the twenties, and that's where I

826
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 6: kind of I've loved one.

827
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 5: Maybe in that eighteen to twenty four range.

828
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 6: I haven't solidified it yet, but who knows how you'll test,

829
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 6: But I still think that's more and more comfortable Warren

830
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 6: though I get he's a little older, but the thing

831
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 6: is too, is that he has potential to be a

832
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 6: true in line why tight end which are so hard

833
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 6: to find, and he's a good receiver any great yards

834
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 6: after the catch. That being top ten might be a

835
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 6: little rich, I might say more as top fifteen, but

836
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 6: still that's splitting hairs because he is that kind of talent.

837
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's other guys too.

838
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean you say that it's tough to put him

839
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen or twenty, but like Brack Bowers

840
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: is quite an exception.

841
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: But he is an exception.

842
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 6: And this is something I'm I think coaches now are

843
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 6: better than ever of like mitigating maybe lesser blocking tight ends.

844
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: Ben Johnson with Loveport is a great example.

845
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 6: Or Kincaid with the Bills, don't Kincaid Like these guys

846
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 6: are now they have learned to kind of go like, hey,

847
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 6: let's keep what's not making block a defensive end.

848
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 5: Let's do that.

849
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 6: So maybe my stock where I usually bump a guy

850
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 6: down because they can't do that, it shouldn't They shouldn't get

851
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 6: as bumped down as much.

852
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 5: They shouldn't get as much of a blemish.

853
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: On them, and people shouldn't get bumped down as much

854
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: if they have a profile like Loveland, so Loveland from Michigan,

855
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: as you mentioned player, if they've put it on tape

856
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: a year before that they're coming out. It's much like

857
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: how I view my free agency list, like if that's

858
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: already out there and there's other factors that caused the

859
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: year before free and Scye, no matter, it's like, you know,

860
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: he can do it. He should get just as much credit.

861
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: If anything, he was younger at that point. If it's

862
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: out there, he can do it again. Right, I'm more

863
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: of a grade the guy when you've seen them play

864
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: their best, because it shows you can do it if

865
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: you can surround him and do the best thing.

866
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 6: You want the greatest film to be the best film,

867
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 6: but you're supposed to great guys from their best and latest,

868
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 6: like you're supposed to.

869
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 5: Look at both.

870
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: And then Mason Taylor.

871
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 5: Really like him.

872
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Daniel had him as a top forty guy,

873
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 6: which is I'm going to have him kind of comparable,

874
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 6: Like he's gonna be easily in my top fifty.

875
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 5: I really like it.

876
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: In Arroyo, is there like anyone you're looking for this week?

877
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 6: How they well both Royo is not going to work

878
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 6: out so which kind of a shame because I think

879
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 6: he would be kind of freaky. Numbers, Mason Taylor, I

880
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 6: want to see you know Gunner Helm from Texas as well.

881
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 6: You might have a big one too, But all those guys.

882
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 6: Also Harold Fannin from Bowling Green, who is just a

883
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 6: one of what have you watched him at all?

884
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: Or noue? Yeah, I'm catching up, bro.

885
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 5: So Fannin is so he let the country in receiving.

886
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 6: That's tight end in the man. Numbers are crazy, they're insane.

887
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 6: And he runs like a duck like he is. He's

888
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 6: duck footed as they come, and he runs like that.

889
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 6: He catches everything he's He breaks the first tackle every

890
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 6: single time, and not just against the MAC, against Penn State,

891
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 6: against Texas, A and M. But I don't I like him,

892
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 6: but I have no idea what to make of him.

893
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 6: Like I I know he's not an inline guy. He

894
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 6: tries blocking though he's actually an okay blocker, but he's

895
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 6: not gonna be the biggest guy. So we'll see how

896
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 6: he runs too, because it's just like no, I think

897
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 6: that's what's worrying a lot of people.

898
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 5: Is that he might not test really well even though.

899
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: He's gonna run the forty like a duck.

900
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 6: That's why I'm I have no idea, and that's what

901
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 6: I that's what I'm curious about. I think he's a

902
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 6: better athlete he's getting credit for because his body control.

903
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 6: But who knows. But that's what I think. That's why

904
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 6: people don't know what to do with him. But I'll

905
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 6: end up with him in my top fifty. But it's

906
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 6: just like, I don't even know what to do with him.

907
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 6: I but I've I've considered him a like an Alex

908
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 6: He's not a full back, but use him like Alcan

909
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 6: Gold or Kylie us Check where it's like you're doing

910
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 6: everything every which way. Not a fullback bite like that,

911
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 6: but just a true h tight end, you know, old

912
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 6: school that kind.

913
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: Of needs to end up with like one of the

914
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: eighteen Shanahan core coaches, right.

915
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 6: But now they're becoming all sem Payton like tree coaches

916
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 6: like that. One's kind of proliferating everywhere.

917
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: Now it's a lot of it. Hell, he's got like

918
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: GM's over there, you know, Darren Moosey.

919
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 5: With it, just like seven Champayton coaches now like, I

920
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 5: know that's the new.

921
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: Tree defensive backs.

922
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: They always fly, they're paired with the tight ends on Friday.

923
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Are there any of the top fifty guys that you

924
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: think is especially important Will Johnson, he's eleventh from Jeremiah Michigan.

925
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Like some questions about how how Hill tests he had

926
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: today Baron higher than I expected, kind of compared him

927
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: to to Brian Branch, Like that type of player going

928
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: that high he had him in his top ten is interesting.

929
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: Who else are you looking at defensive backs?

930
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 5: I'm glad he brought Will Johnson.

931
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 6: Will Johnson was my player overall one in the mid

932
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 6: season and because I was Again he's a Michigan guy

933
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 6: where his twenty twenty three tape was great and then

934
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 6: early twenty twenty four it was kind of up and down,

935
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 6: but he battled injuries and now character stuff's coming out.

936
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 6: So like I even said this on our show, is

937
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 6: that he kind of has the trifecta of Combine Week.

938
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 6: So he's got clear his medicals, his interviews have to

939
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 6: go well, and then he has to test well. Because

940
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 6: some people are worried about his long speed. I cauld

941
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 6: believe some people were dropping him, so harshly. I'm not

942
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 6: gonna have him at one by still I'm going to

943
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 6: have him probably comfortably in my top ten because I

944
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 6: think his upside is.

945
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 5: A true number one corner, which is so hard to find.

946
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 5: But he he's got to.

947
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 6: Kind of prove a little bit to kind of get

948
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 6: back to that status, I think in the eyes a

949
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 6: lot of people.

950
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 5: But this is kind of a fun class. I mean, Sean.

951
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 6: Ravel from East Carolina, but he's not gonna do anything,

952
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 6: but his medicals have to clear through.

953
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: And of course Travis Hunter, which is who's star of

954
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 5: all stars.

955
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 3: You since the.

956
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just Jeremiah and Andrew Berry, the Browns general manager.

957
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: But I just have this feeling as we get closer

958
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: to the draft that more people are gonna think of

959
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: him as.

960
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: A wide receiver because he's so good at that position.

961
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 6: Even Matt Harmon yesterday was just like, are we sure

962
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 6: he's not a full time receiver because his skill his

963
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 6: ball skills are rare, like truly rare.

964
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: It's just if I'm evaluating it's more reliable. Cornerbacks are

965
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: so hard to evaluate. But I guess he's not. You're

966
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: pretty sure about it.

967
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, he's he's gonna be player one because even

968
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 6: if he was just a corner, he's number one player on.

969
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: The board because its size though.

970
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 6: That's and that's what we're pretty bigs me at receiver too,

971
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 6: is like I think of how many top ten.

972
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 5: Receivers have been some.

973
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 6: DeVonta Smith, and what's happened with Wattle and Smith that

974
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 6: you're getting hurt. It's like and again DeVante's I love

975
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 6: Toante Smith, but he's a high end two, you know.

976
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 6: And and but those guys like that's what worries me

977
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 6: too about the reps is if people are like, oh,

978
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 6: we're doing both tel well and that's how he moves,

979
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 6: like and Odell was outside the top ten, he was

980
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 6: yeah yeah, but what happened to Odell got hurt and

981
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 6: so him playing both ways, that is what scared me.

982
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 6: Where people are getting a little ahead of themselves. Is

983
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 6: that like when you're that when you're one eighty five,

984
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 6: like weights matter, and like just like we talked about this,

985
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 6: I know you get on me sometimes about it, but

986
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 6: it really does. Like over time, that's going to add up.

987
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 6: Those hits add up, those reps add up.

988
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: So at that point I was trying to like tackle,

989
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: running backs even exactly.

990
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 6: But then all of a sudden, you're a receiver getting shot,

991
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 6: battling press. You know, you're not just taking a rest

992
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 6: out there, You're like working on those running another go.

993
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 6: And it's not college goes where it's eighty percent. Sometimes

994
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 6: it's like, no, you gotta run one hundred percent. And

995
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 6: if he's gonna be on the field as just receiver

996
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 6: or say say's corner, part time receiver, those players are

997
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 6: probably going to him, say you know, you know, if

998
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 6: he's on the field for twelve plays, eight of them

999
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 6: will probably a target to him or a touch to him,

1000
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 6: or at least six, you know.

1001
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 5: So that's where I have a little worries.

1002
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 6: But I do still think that he's special enough that

1003
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 6: he should get that package place.

1004
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 5: So it should look like Dean Wing's with the Cowboys.

1005
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 5: That's what she'll look like. Okay, that's how I picked that.

1006
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see.

1007
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it'll be really interesting because I

1008
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: think different teams will view him differently, so it'll it'll

1009
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: exactly maybe matter where.

1010
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: He ends up.

1011
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: Because to me, Dionne, you know, you didn't make that

1012
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: much of an impact as a receiver ultimately.

1013
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 5: Right, there was a couple of years touchdowns. It's kind

1014
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 5: of cute. Yeah, it was kind of cute exactly.

1015
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: Maybe Cavante Turpin's receiver value, right, I always wanted them

1016
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: to use more fastest player in the NFL.

1017
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: They should resign him.

1018
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: All right, We've transition to the receivers, and it's a

1019
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: weird group because after Hunter, like some of the top

1020
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: picks like Buca Luther Burden are more like slot guys.

1021
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: Even Matthew Golden from Texas is maybe like, okay, you

1022
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: can see him starting in the NFL, but it's maybe

1023
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: more like the dependable guy. So from the outside that

1024
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: these guys' profile to me is the combine is going

1025
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: to be very important because you worry that maybe some

1026
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: of them won't test as well.

1027
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: Like who are you looking for? You excited to see this?

1028
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 6: I want to see Ted McMillan run receiver from Arizona.

1029
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 6: I love him. I'm kind of one of these are

1030
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 6: I'm starting to ask more people.

1031
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 5: It's like, am I missing something here with him? And

1032
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 5: classic big guy?

1033
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 6: Because where people are citing separation stats without context of

1034
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 6: their quarterback situation all that that's a whole nother conversation

1035
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 6: but I want to see him run because I think

1036
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 6: if he does run, well, he'll kind of like silence

1037
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 6: a lot of people because that's the one hang up,

1038
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 6: especially as a big guy. But I love him. I

1039
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 6: think he's just like if he goes top five, I

1040
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 6: wouldn't block.

1041
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 5: I get it.

1042
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: There's some negative whisper campaign about him, not characters so

1043
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: much as just how much does he love it effort

1044
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, which is very diff to parse

1045
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: from because.

1046
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 5: I watched it.

1047
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 6: He tries to block, and he runs his routes one

1048
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 6: hundred percent, so that's like even they're getting blown out,

1049
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 6: he's like going like taking like you know, some of

1050
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 6: the routes are just like for the love of the game.

1051
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 5: He's still doing it.

1052
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 6: So like that that's why I don't I don't agree

1053
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 6: with some people that have been saying that, like I, yeah,

1054
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 6: he's one that I really liked. And then so I

1055
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 6: usually during the season will watch three games sometimes four,

1056
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 6: and then with him, watched three games, really liked him,

1057
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 6: had him a tot tim guy, and then I watched

1058
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 6: three more games the last couple of weeks.

1059
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 5: I just bet I love him.

1060
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 6: Like yeah, yeah, I think he actually on our last monk,

1061
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 6: we had the Patriots trained down and then taking him,

1062
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 6: which I'm usually an offensive line bulk first trenches first guy,

1063
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 6: but I think McMillan's that kind of a true number

1064
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 6: one upside that it's fine to take that splash.

1065
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: Whether it's right or wrong.

1066
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: I feel like the insiders like stock of tech mcmill

1067
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: and again Arizona wide receiver the odds on favored to

1068
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: be the first wide receiver taken, but it wouldn't be

1069
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: a shot, you know. I think crazier things have happened

1070
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: if he slipped. I feel like people now think maybe,

1071
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: at least as we're sitting here in mid February, that

1072
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: he could slip a little further than the mocks.

1073
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 6: That's what's kind of seeing right now. Yeah, we're thinking, yeah,

1074
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 6: I know, and that makes me feel crazy. That's what

1075
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 6: thinks is I when I a lot of myself film only,

1076
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 6: and then I this week is when I maybe started

1077
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 6: actually talking to guys. Usually senior role week is maybe

1078
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 6: start talking to teams, Hey, what about this guy? Anything

1079
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 6: like that. And that's why where I'm like, Okay, now

1080
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 6: I feel crazy. Now It's like, all right, who's who's

1081
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 6: the West Coast scout that I know, I gotta figure

1082
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 6: out exactly where I'm going on him.

1083
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: But too much of Patriots by the way, like.

1084
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: People have just been putting Will Campbell the attack and

1085
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: this will be a big week for him tackle.

1086
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: You might have short arms. It's like Rashaan Slater had short.

1087
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 5: He's built like rashot while you're actually a lot.

1088
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: Of people putting you know, him to the Patriots at

1089
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: four and I just think Mike Rabel is making that pick.

1090
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: And I think Mike Rabel's gonna want like a physical

1091
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: freak and I don't know if that's that guy. And

1092
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: so people it's almost like people think, oh the Patriots,

1093
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're fine on defense, they're fine anywhere. No,

1094
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: they find a quarterback, and to me, they seem more

1095
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: like a team that would take a Jalen Walker who's

1096
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: a very physical freak. It's more of an edge guy

1097
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: off ball or Mason gret like someone nasty like that.

1098
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts of maybe like where they could be, Like, yeah.

1099
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 6: I had I was one that I had Will Campbell

1100
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 6: going there for I really like Campbell and even like

1101
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 6: with him, I'll just start with him first before addressing

1102
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 6: the Patriots situations, because you're right, it's like they could

1103
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 6: go Eddie Path. I'll be like, yeah, makes sense with Campbell.

1104
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 6: I I do think he's actually got a little more

1105
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 6: grit to him and actually is he's so smart and

1106
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 6: that's what's really stood out to me.

1107
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 5: Like he's a true leader.

1108
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 6: And that's why I think a team like the Patriots

1109
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 6: that needs everything, they're trying to build from ground zero,

1110
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 6: Like he's a culture builder, and so he might only

1111
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 6: end up being a good tackle if he stays out

1112
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 6: of that there. Maybe not that true ele guy, but

1113
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 6: he's more of like a tone center for everybody, and

1114
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 6: not just his physical side, but more of like how

1115
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 6: he goes about data, his makeup as the baseball baseball

1116
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 6: scouts like to.

1117
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: Say, last time I heard someone like make a profile

1118
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: of that of a number four pick, it was Cleveland

1119
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: Ferrell with the Raiders.

1120
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 5: Like Campbell's tape is much better. He's stern left tackle.

1121
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: That was the moment where everyone was like hoo, and

1122
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: they're like, no, he's yeah.

1123
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 5: That's right. No, that's a great point though.

1124
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 6: No, but Campbell's more in that and better athlete people

1125
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 6: give him craft for That's why I don't think the

1126
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 6: long the arm length is as worrisome maybe as with

1127
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 6: other people, because his footwork is so good and his

1128
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 6: technique so good.

1129
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 5: So now I really like him.

1130
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 6: But for it it's the context of he's my old

1131
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 6: lineman one.

1132
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 5: But he would have been like, oh, lineman four last year,

1133
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 5: you know.

1134
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 6: So it's like I would have been more comfortable taking

1135
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 6: him in the teens, like that's where his real slot

1136
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 6: should be. But because of where this draft is with

1137
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 6: the Lion, there's a lot of good lineman. There's not

1138
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 6: a lot of like those elite prospects, so that kind

1139
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 6: of makes him.

1140
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: Also, it seems like a draft where maybe it's not

1141
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: the best draft to have the fourth pick because there

1142
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: maybe isn't that pick of difference between the fourth and

1143
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: a cross pick.

1144
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 6: Want you want that, you want a teens pick, you

1145
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 6: want like an early teens pick in this row.

1146
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: I got sidetracked by the Patriots as I wanted to do.

1147
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: Let's go back to receivers too, because so Saturday, just

1148
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: to set it up, that's the big skill position day, quarterbacks,

1149
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: wide receivers, and running backs. In the time that we

1150
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: have left with you, I do want to hear about

1151
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: some of the wide receivers and the running backs, especially

1152
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: that you're interested in why you're you're looking at them

1153
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: this week specifically.

1154
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, well you mentioned to Meca Buka and really like

1155
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 6: him as a dirty work guy. But the thing is

1156
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 6: Steven talking about the Patriots, they do not need another

1157
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 6: guy that's necessarily.

1158
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: It's just everyone.

1159
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 6: I'm just laughing because it's like, yeah, but he Abuka

1160
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 6: just he's a two. He's like a number two receiver,

1161
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 6: that is what he is. But he just does everything well,

1162
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 6: lines up inside outside, not sure how he'll test, and

1163
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 6: that's what he might be a low four to five guy,

1164
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 6: which again is splitting hairs. But again if he has

1165
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 6: a big day, that's going to really help him. Burden,

1166
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 6: I've been up and down on Luther Burn from a zoo.

1167
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 6: Some people love Luthor Burg and because he's got really

1168
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 6: good movement and like just that kind of he's bigger

1169
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 6: than I think people realize too, like he's more more thicker,

1170
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 6: more thicker. I speak English, but they with Burden, it's

1171
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 6: just that it's kind of been gadgety, kind of been

1172
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 6: only slot only always in motion, you know, to like

1173
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 6: make sure he doesn't get pressed but I've seen him

1174
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 6: beat press. It's one of those is that a can't

1175
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 6: or won't kind of thing. But I feel comfortable where

1176
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 6: I have him, especially I've seen him more as a

1177
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 6: late first rounder, maybe sneak in early second type, and

1178
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 6: I think others are kind of kind of the same way.

1179
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 5: I mean other than that, though, like do you have.

1180
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Any little like mid round like te special sleepers.

1181
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: With the deep stuff.

1182
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 5: Xavier Estreppo from Miami. I like him.

1183
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 6: He's a slot only guy, but he'll probably be a

1184
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 6: number three, but I like him as like a third rounder.

1185
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 6: I would say, I like Will Shephard, who's not here

1186
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 6: actually from Colorado. He was the other Colorado receiver is

1187
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 6: that I don't know. He has some drops, some mistakes,

1188
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 6: but he's another just ball when type. And I would

1189
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 6: say the last one was Tory Holton from Colorado State.

1190
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 6: Battles some injuries, but I man, his twenty twenty three

1191
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 6: film is just awesome.

1192
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 5: Like one of them.

1193
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 6: I had him in my initial top fifty going into

1194
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 6: the season. He battles some stuff, injuries and stuff, but

1195
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 6: he's another one. Tory Holton is a guy I'm keep.

1196
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: My honest, So it's not a good wide receiver class

1197
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: overall in terms of like top end talent, it's an

1198
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: incredible running backs class overall. Obviously Ashton Genty's not working

1199
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: out here, but a number of other of the top

1200
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: fifty players from Daniel Jeremiah, Amari and Hampton from UNC

1201
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: he's got him all.

1202
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: The way up to nineteen. Big guy. I love a big,

1203
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: versatile guy.

1204
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean that is that is my type, going all

1205
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: the way back to Ronnie Brown, who I know we

1206
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: share a fondness for Trevon Henderson at thirty five, the

1207
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State back. His teammate Judkins Jeremiah is him at

1208
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: thirty seven. You know Caleb Johnson he has in the

1209
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: top fifty. So to me, running backs are some of

1210
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: the most fun watch ahead of time, certainly one of

1211
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: the most fun this week from.

1212
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 6: My favorite position to Evao, I really just like watching

1213
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 6: a good run. It's so fun.

1214
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: Who's sort of a tights player? And also this week

1215
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: you think it's important like at the combine.

1216
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 6: Well, Hampton all the way is a tye player, but

1217
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 6: like this stock is couldn't get any.

1218
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 5: Higher right now.

1219
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 6: He reminds me a lot like Joe Mixon, Like that

1220
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 6: would be kind of my comparison for a big guy

1221
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 6: all three downs, Like I really like Hampton a lot,

1222
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 6: Devin Neil from Cancoe.

1223
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: Mixon as a prot was just for the on.

1224
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 5: Just strictly on field. Yes, he was.

1225
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: Extremely problematic because of what he came into the league with,

1226
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: But I remember that class which was incredible when I

1227
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: studied those guys hard and thinking, man, it's McCaffrey and

1228
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: Mixing are kind of one A one B for the

1229
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: one field and just the violence of his cuts, and

1230
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: that's a class with Kamara and Dalvin Cook. What a

1231
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: fun It is funny to think back now how low

1232
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: the NFL was on running backs to that point, where

1233
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: like those guys all went in the second and third

1234
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: round except for mccaffe which is crazy.

1235
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: It was way too low.

1236
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: And now it's it's not all the way back to

1237
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: where you know Rockney Brown, but it'sn't a nice little area.

1238
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: It's a balance where these guys actually get value to life.

1239
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: Because that was crazy because those were like really great prospects.

1240
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: It's not like they just happen to turn out with

1241
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: great players college films.

1242
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 3: He went high.

1243
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 6: But yeah, I know, but it's some of the most

1244
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 6: fun film you'll ever watch of any position, but that, Yeah,

1245
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 6: I think we're getting back to where there should be

1246
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 6: properly assessed.

1247
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 3: I think not quite that class, is it or is

1248
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: it getting closed?

1249
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 6: I would say it's more it's no, it's not that

1250
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 6: class because it doesn't have a like genty's pretty high end,

1251
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 6: but it's more.

1252
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, the round two town's kind of.

1253
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 6: Similar though, Like there's a lot of guys that could

1254
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 6: be number one with another like at two behind him,

1255
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 6: but like even going with Neil, Neil is like a

1256
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 6: round I might go round two guy with him, but

1257
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 6: he's probably just gonna just miss my top fifty or

1258
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 6: just barely beget inside of it.

1259
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 5: But another three down guy that I really like.

1260
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,479
Speaker 6: Not going to give him the Mollelede more cop because

1261
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 6: I just hold that one very very that's a dear

1262
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 6: near and dear one to my heart. But no, but

1263
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 6: he's I just really like him. Good size, he had

1264
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 6: a good Senior Bowl week as well, but good vision

1265
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 6: and everything. So he's kind of my mid round guy

1266
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 6: that I've like, I've grown a fondness for him and

1267
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 6: Phil Anderson.

1268
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: Running back comp of all these guys of someone that

1269
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: they remind you.

1270
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 6: Of Okay, I said all it more about Ashton Genty

1271
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 6: reminds me of Ontario Smith.

1272
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,479
Speaker 1: Okay, the Wiza, I mean, you would not have gotten

1273
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: taken top five, very talented, but he.

1274
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 6: Had first round grade. It was just the off field

1275
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 6: stuff that managed that my dad could take me. That

1276
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 6: was my dad's money.

1277
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: We'll always bring it back to the old school.

1278
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 6: Because I know, I'm I know my audience right now.

1279
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 6: I know I know you will appreciate this. It's like

1280
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 6: when I go on Bomadi Shell. He just has me

1281
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 6: on to just talk about nineteen ninety eight.

1282
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: Like football, I'm trying to remember Ontario Smith, like as

1283
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: a receiver, I don't as well.

1284
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 6: He has a touchdown against the Cowboys Week one, two

1285
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 6: thousand and three.

1286
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 5: You can see it a little bit.

1287
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 6: It runs a little angle route on there. No, but

1288
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 6: he Ontario was a huge recruit. I want to say,

1289
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 6: like a Gatoray player. The year went to Tennessee. It's

1290
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 6: kicked out Tennessee when they were pretty reckless, and at

1291
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 6: that time goes to Oregon AND's had all this character stuff.

1292
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 6: And then that was especially when when the league was

1293
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 6: so much harsh on guys that smoked weed. So like

1294
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 6: that also didn't help and then especially when you have

1295
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 6: the Wizinator. But no, anyways, that's my favorite player comparison,

1296
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 6: So do you think that is an awesome one?

1297
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: Like who do you think he'll have a particularly good

1298
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: week this week of a good running back? Just that

1299
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: like okay, coming out of this people maybe are a

1300
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: little higher on it.

1301
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 5: Could be one of the Henderson maybe. Yeah, And his

1302
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 5: tape is so he's gonna have a role in the

1303
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 5: weak for a decade.

1304
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 6: Because he's such a good pass protector and you can

1305
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 6: catch and you can take any ball to the house.

1306
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 6: So it's like he's to me, he's not that ideal one,

1307
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 6: but it's like I want him part of my backfield.

1308
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 6: But he I think he's gonna run like the wind,

1309
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 6: so he'll just kinda keep rising, rise and rising when

1310
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 6: you could just do that, wake up and do that.

1311
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 5: And that's kind of how his play is.

1312
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: By the way, on a Buka who he mentioned the

1313
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: Ohio state wide receiver slot guy couldn't have a higher

1314
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: recommendation from Phil Wesseling, Chris Westling's brother, who is my

1315
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: Ohio they whisper and he's never wrong about the Ohio

1316
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: state prospect. Now, granted, they all turn out good, so

1317
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: it's like, but there are some I kind of read

1318
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: between the life.

1319
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 3: Some they're higher on than others.

1320
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: And he just he promises even more than Smith and

1321
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: Jigba at the time, just as much. He's like, I

1322
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: promise you he is gonna have a great long career.

1323
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 6: People sleeping on him. I just I'm a sucker for

1324
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 6: that skill set. But he's like a better vere. He's God,

1325
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 6: I know. But that's why I like Jalen Polk. But

1326
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 6: it's it's that. But it's that Robert Woods tire, that

1327
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 6: Chris Godwin's here, the power slot, that he's a Z

1328
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 6: that can line up inside as well, and he just

1329
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 6: does everything well.

1330
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: I trust.

1331
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: Issues with everyone that was into Jalen Poke is it

1332
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: makes you a.

1333
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 5: Male better Because there's a lot of other people that like, oh.

1334
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone liked Jalen Poke. Everyone thought that was a

1335
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: great pick. I love that trade down. Don't take Lad

1336
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: McConkie and get Poke. What great value. Everyone liked it.

1337
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: So it's like, well, the thing with him is like

1338
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: he's like a high floor you can't miss.

1339
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 5: I love being like I.

1340
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 6: Had Poking Lad next to each other on my big board.

1341
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 6: I think I'm like thirty five thirty six thing with Ladd.

1342
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 6: He has medical concerns which already showed up, and that's

1343
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 6: why he didn't go as high as the people. Like

1344
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 6: people are forgetting that his medicals are not great.

1345
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: Okay man, but he' I'm not the one taking him.

1346
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: I loved to he led the league when he getting

1347
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: injured and like during the game and coming in and

1348
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: but in the end he played the whole season and

1349
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: was incredible. And so I don't want to hear about that.

1350
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 1: He's got medical He's got to get bigger and bigger.

1351
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 5: That's it.

1352
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: Not worried about it. That year alone was worth a

1353
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: high pick. I mean he was great.

1354
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 5: He was I love him.

1355
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: He could be a one.

1356
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: You're you're the one in terms of prospect evaluation and

1357
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: kind of putting it all together and how it's gonna

1358
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: fit in the NFL. I love what you guys are

1359
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: doing football three oh one check Nate Tice outs with

1360
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon Charles McDonald. So three of the smartest guys

1361
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: in the business. Enjoy your week here in Indianapolis. He

1362
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: sticking around. I am getting out of here, but we

1363
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: will be back on a Sunday night, kind of dropping

1364
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: Monday morning, almost like it's the regular season again.

1365
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 3: That is when we will be back.

1366
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: We will be recapping all the position groups that we

1367
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: just previewed, so it'll it'll almost be like a week

1368
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: one recap, except it's the combine recaps. To look for

1369
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: that in your feed by Monday morning. Until then, yeah,

1370
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: I think if the combine drills are over, just about

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00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: football is back.