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Speaker 1: And so like I'm smashing bottles, I'm breaking beers, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like a bird, and like everyone's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: and no one will take our books from our libraries. Hell, yes, Trump, sir,

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Speaker 1: you are on notice. Okay, dump um. Today we're going

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Speaker 1: to be reading one of my favorite books of all time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Everybody didn't get totally technicolor. I also just want to

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00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: get back and talk about this big Fish market trip

422
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: she had with her girlfriends, And do you think that

423
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: it was in a foreign country or do you think

424
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: it was like Los Angeles's Big Fish. I was either like, okay,

425
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: foreign country they're in like Sargine. I keep on ringp Sarginia,

426
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: but like they're in Italy, Japan. I don't see them

427
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: like cooking a meal on they're Japanese. You're right there going, yeah,

428
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: it's not like I feel like like let's cook dinner

429
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: kind of trip, like a less than what Japan is

430
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: where you go with your boyfriend, yes, your fey, and

431
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: you post so so many photos and you're just like this,

432
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: this country was amazing and taught me so much. I

433
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: always feeling like when people go to Japan with their

434
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: lovers cut to this being me in like two years,

435
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: Well there's always one lover that's like way more of

436
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: a nerd and like a manka nerd, and without what

437
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: you're about to say, well, no, I was gonna say.

438
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: I was feeling I'm like, are you guys talking or

439
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: you just like taking so many photos and like not talking. Yeah,

440
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: I mean definitely straight couples, as you know, I think

441
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: we're pretty much like silent. Yeah, they're like at the

442
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: convey beilt sushi thing and they're like at the store

443
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: and then they like are at like it's always this

444
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: is how Japanese vacations go with couples. They do tokyo

445
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: and it's like so much sushi and lights in karaoke,

446
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: and then they go to what looks like insanely expensive

447
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: like resort in the country that they're taking like an

448
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: amazing train too, shout out yes, and they're like in

449
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: romes robes and like maths yeah, and they're like yeah, No.

450
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: There's definitely country element in a state element in the

451
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: Japanese vacation of like straight American couples. But you were

452
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: gonna say, yeah, which is you're saying that there's one

453
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: way nerdier person of the couple. Yeah, and like I

454
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: feel like it's usually the guy and then like his

455
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: girlfriend is there and she's just like it was really cool,

456
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: like to see Matt like so engaged, like at the

457
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: comic book store. He never seems excited. Yeah, Okay, Anyway,

458
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: the trip that she takes with her girlfriends to the

459
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: fish market, we're thinking not it maybe is in the Mediterranean,

460
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: or it's literally just a domestic fish market, right like

461
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: he could literally be like Chelsea Market. Ye for a group.

462
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: It's also the group. I'm like, that's a show kind

463
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: of aud for a whole crew to go. Like she

464
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: being I can't, like, can you do a Drew impression?

465
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure I can't. Okay, they think about he Drew impression.

466
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm now just doing a Chloe impression

467
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: of a Drew impression because she's like has such a

468
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: like luck on that. Yeah. So it's a little bit

469
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: just like we can't even do what's the point of

470
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: even doing it? Um so. But because she was at

471
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: this kind of time than her mouth. Um I mean,

472
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: I've always wanted us to be so bordained and go

473
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: to the Fulton Fish Market at like four am. Oh yeah,

474
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: and get the good stuff. Yeah, with the shafts and

475
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: you're getting like these razor clams going to happen. No,

476
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: that's not what time I do that we operate at

477
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: unless we're leaving the club club. Yeah, engraving tuna. Uh So, yeah,

478
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: I think it's vacation. It just seems weird to go with.

479
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: If I like group chatted, everyone was like MEMI a

480
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: Chelsea fish market. Yeah, but maybe I actually could see

481
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: her doing it anyone, because she's random if anyone's gonna

482
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: go domestically to a fish market, because I do feel

483
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: like if you're on vacation, like it's all six if

484
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: you go to the fish market. Now, like two we're

485
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: going to the fish market, and like four of you

486
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: are like still shopping and like someone else is like

487
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: at the beach, and it's like true. But to get

488
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: into it, I think a group of girlfriends could be

489
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: anywhere from three to six. A group could be as

490
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: smallest three okay, and they could be like, oh my god,

491
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: I heard about this amazing fish market. I want to

492
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: see it. We know, I went to a fish market

493
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: in Panama. I actually didn't know that. I thought I

494
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: actually knew everything about your panamatray just kind of cracking

495
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: the surface of my Panamatra. We went to this fish

496
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: market and it was very this thing where it was

497
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: like some block. It's like it's incredible, like pick your

498
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: own fish and then like some guy will cook it

499
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: for you, and it's like very You get there and

500
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: there are so many like barrels of fish and it

501
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: like is so blood and guts, but it's not very

502
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the fish market's kind of closing

503
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: and like it's not really such a like grab of

504
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: fish and grill it. But then there's all of these

505
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: places that are like, no, the tourists come here. So

506
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: there's like tons of restaurants like right next to the fishmarket, okay,

507
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: because they know. Also it's like I'm sure the grab

508
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: of fish and grill it happened to like one tourists

509
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: and you have to do that f seven am and

510
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: they are like closing and so they're kind of just

511
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: like praying on you. And then there are so many

512
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: girls like handing out menus. But then we found the

513
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: place that was like the least like girl with tits

514
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: having handed out menus, and it like, well, we're calling

515
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: the restaurants and that's not girls with ts hand menus.

516
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: And actually it was like one of the best meals

517
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: we had the entire trip was that the clams you

518
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: sent me. That was yes, the clams I sent you.

519
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: And then that little civich just like in the little

520
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: styro from cup with the little crackers, and it was

521
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: just like so fucking cute and chill and low key

522
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: and just like a can of Balboa, you know what

523
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking about? Yes, girl, Back to the photos a

524
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: little bit, a lot of what One of my favorite

525
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: one was the light on my friend Robin's watch caption

526
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: and I forget if it was an app notes pre

527
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: Apple watch. Yeah. The friend Robin to me feels I'm

528
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: about to get divorced to have a friend named Robin. Robin.

529
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you just hit the nail on the head, Lily.

530
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: A friend named Robin. It's what you have when you're

531
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: about to get divorced. And that's the new like Catherine

532
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: Keener movie I'm gonna make. Yeah, my friend my friend

533
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: Robin Robin long shots, Yeah, long conversation because Robin is

534
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: the most just like supportive female who like maybe has

535
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: asen but is not like so in her husband, like

536
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: maybe Robin single, Like Robin could be a lesbian, could

537
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: be a lesbian, like she could have kids, but all

538
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: those things are kind of secondary to her identity. It's

539
00:30:51,280 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: like friend friend end. Oh okay, we also have of

540
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: there's like a crumpled up straw wrapper. There's oh you

541
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: know what actually is one of my favorites is the

542
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: chicken breast and again breaded. Yeah, because she's not Chris

543
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: and Kavaleri. Yeah, she's literally not Kevlar does not if

544
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: that was a confusion for anyone or Cameron, because I

545
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: feel like Cameron is making light. She's very grilled chicken breast,

546
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: grilled chicken. She's not doing this panko schnitzel type of thing.

547
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: And I love I love a schnitzel. And yeah, I

548
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: think that's what Drew is attempting here in so that

549
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: the breasts are kind of connected and two breasts together bam,

550
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: that's a heart um and it's just and or the

551
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: breast connected in this they do look like they're connected. Yeah,

552
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: maybe like a split open when you open up a

553
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: thick breast. Well, I you know, I've talked about spatchcocking

554
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: before on this podcast, and I haven't done it since

555
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: because it was such an intimidating process cutting the chicken

556
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: with the scissors. But I'll admit this, I've also rarely,

557
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: i think, tried to do it once and I think

558
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: of my so it was such a cook but patchcocking

559
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: does intimidate me and I want to be vulnerable with

560
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: our audience. But you know, here's one where it's like,

561
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: this is a black and white photo of a white

562
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: cat with a heart shaped like pet tag. I was

563
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna say dog tag, but it's a cat and we

564
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: are a cat pods, so species it. But it's like

565
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: that's just a heart shaped tag, you know what I mean.

566
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: But she found that in everything? Okay, I guess it's

567
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: like she didn't go to pet Co and say, hey,

568
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: can you like cut out this in a heart? It

569
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: just had a heart. It wasn't the staged. It also

570
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: feels like that could be her cat. It could be

571
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: her friend Robin's cat who's indoor and outdoor. Well, and

572
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: this gets you know, back to the found our conversation

573
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: where it's like these are all they aren't found. Photographs

574
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: are here, certainly, and you know she took them, but

575
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: it's like the art itself, these moments are found. Yes,

576
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: they are found moments, which I do think is he's art.

577
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: That is just like I saw this, no one else

578
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: saw this. Moments are art. Eyes of the camera, eyes

579
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: to the camera of the soul, and like this, you know,

580
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: this gets back to like, you know, sunset culture, where

581
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: it's just like I do sun culture, we're just seeing sunsets.

582
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and because I do find that to be

583
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: a little bit like thanks, like when people take I

584
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: guess people taking photos of sunsets to me is very late. Yeah,

585
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: it's the most latest thing in the world. Watch the sunset.

586
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: Literally it's gonna happen again tomorrow and literally every day

587
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: from your life. Wake up your photos that never get

588
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: to be as good as your eyes. It's never as good.

589
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: And just like you know, glasses on and then yes,

590
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: then you do on it. But it's like through the

591
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Crown Heights dirty window, and the thing is anything at

592
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: least Drew Barrymore seen that little tag on a cat.

593
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, she found that. It's not the most

594
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: complex or conceptual thing that she found, but she found it.

595
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: But like the sunset, you didn't find that. It's there.

596
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Everyone can see the sunset. Everyone can see the sunset.

597
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: You don't need to capture it. Thank you first, I mean,

598
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: and again that also goes back to and I'm also

599
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: guilty of this taking videos at concerts. No one wants it.

600
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: No one wants to see your thirteen part Azalea no

601
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: shann I. When I saw Zelia Banks in Miami and

602
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: when which was mostly waiting three hours for her to

603
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: come on stage, I kept my phone in my pocket. Hell, yes,

604
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: thank you, And you know what, the story is better

605
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: for it. I'm like, I have this vone Azelia Banks

606
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: story and I don't have to you know, I don't

607
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: have to like ruin it with all these clunky jankie

608
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: videos because I actually remember seeing it because I was there. Yeah,

609
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: I was watching it. I wasn't watching my phone. You

610
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: don't have to take up the gigs on the phone.

611
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: Um oh wait. That was insane. When she's like, so

612
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: someone is writing a sky and it's like hearts, and

613
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: she's like, you go girl or whatever to add here

614
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: it is. It is such a romantic notion to me

615
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: to think that there may be this man up there

616
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: in the sky flying around and the shape of a

617
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: heart trying to send messages of love. Thank you. We

618
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: are picking up what you are putting down. I love that.

619
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: Just groovy. It is her character in Charlie's Angels. But

620
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: to this photo, to me, I was like, it actually does.

621
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: At first, I was like, well this, I was just

622
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: like paid to write A Heart in the sky. But

623
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: then I was like, you think he was joy writing?

624
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: I think he was joy writing. Yeah, I don't think

625
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: you just joy write if you're a skywriterer. I feel

626
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: like that whatever that like smoke, is that like polluting

627
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: fume that they use. It's probably quite expensive, especially these

628
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: days with inflation and the war in Ukraine, the gas prices.

629
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: Have you seen the plane prices? I just I would

630
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: you propose in the sky? No, because if the skyrider died,

631
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Speaker 1: it would really be so awful, because that's where you

632
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: go first, not just like it's embarrassing. Yeah, as you know,

633
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: I have a lot of like anxiety about plane crash.

634
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: And it's like and I don't even remember, but when

635
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: yet and yet you turned away from me on a

636
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: turbulent fight that was before when I was vomiting, and

637
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: you need to let it go. Um. I did quickly

638
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: want to just mention back to that the new wife,

639
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: the Vogue wife. They got married in Nantucket b she

640
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: was previously engaged to a Winklevoss. Oh disgusting. I know. Wait,

641
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: so Drew has to now like co parent and I'm

642
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: sure there's like this group like their texts are so

643
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: tense where she's like she's like, oh, like what her

644
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: Drew's kids names, like, They're not so that weird. I

645
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: feel like they are kind of like Honor, a little

646
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: bit hippie, a little bit hippie, but not that weird. Um.

647
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, like boats, you know, Honors backpack

648
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: is here, Honors Like oh, I forgot to give you

649
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Honors backpack, and like Vogue is it's cool? I got

650
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: him a tote. I hate to be engaged with a Winklevoss. Fuck. No,

651
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 1: I know it's like a murderous, but yet Drew still

652
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: being so positive and finding hearts. She's finding hearts and anything. Well,

653
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, at this point she has to you know

654
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: the bread tie. Oh you know that was something that

655
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: actually tickled me because I know, never never thought about that,

656
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: and so did she. I've seen these for many years.

657
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: This is the tag around bread. If you guys, yeah,

658
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't know who he here goes like raise your hand.

659
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: If you go to the supermarket, okay, you ever buy

660
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: bread and a little plastic bag and that it has

661
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: this tag and it's so true that I mean, we

662
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: can be across the aisle, you know, disagree about politics,

663
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: but we all know the bread, okay, whether you're buying

664
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: Dave's Bread or Wonder Bread okay, Ezekiel or Panera brown

665
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: bread alone or some bakering New Jersey. I'm kind of

666
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: a bread alone girl. I have to say. I am

667
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: also a bread alone girl. It's always kind of the

668
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: best that I can find at the at the associate

669
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: they have. Really, I'm kind of waiting for the bread.

670
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: The bread alone talk. Oh, the like a huge expose

671
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: and it turns out like traffic child labor into what

672
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a hippie like so it turns

673
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: out that like all their flower is actually just like refiltered,

674
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: just like disposed of, like Canadian flower, and it's so

675
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: mass brothers, and they're just melting down like all of

676
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: this used trash flower and putting it into melting flower.

677
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: And it's Anne Hathaway, like melting all this flower and

678
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: like pouring like gasoline into it. Um, please let me

679
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: make that expose anyway, she's talking about the tag here.

680
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: I've seen these for so many years. I've handled them.

681
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: I've handled which is very celebrity to be like, oh,

682
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: I've actually opened bread before twisted things and clamped these on.

683
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: One day the heart appeared. It's been there all along.

684
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: It was waiting for me to find it. M I

685
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: was waiting for us. Yeah, well you know it's funny.

686
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: On the way to the studio to record this episode,

687
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: did you find one? I literally looked up at the

688
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: like subway ad in the subway um and it was

689
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: like this thing that was like, I heart n y

690
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: go thing. It was like it was like an ad

691
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: for the MTA that was like on the subway, but

692
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: they were using a heart. And I was literally like

693
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: like flipping to the book, lifting my head up. My

694
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: eyes met a heart right there. That's it was. It

695
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: was crazy spiritus. I was like, hearts are really ever.

696
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: Love is all around love it love is and not

697
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: just love is love, but love is freewhere, you know.

698
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: And God is love. And I've said this many times

699
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: on my Facebook podcast with your Sibling and Lover Yeah

700
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: Clendon style, both siblings and lovers are welcome on my

701
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: bond And I say this all the time. God is

702
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: love and God is all around us. And people say, oh,

703
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: do I have to go to a church and do

704
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: you have to play to memorize and rosary? Da da da.

705
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: I was doing the church. You know, it was very

706
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: very negative, and I say, God is here, so don't

707
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: you worry about him because he will and he will always.

708
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: He's actually waiting for you to find him well. And

709
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: I think actually recently it was Saint Anthony's Day and

710
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: he is the saint of finding things. It's like a

711
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: kookie Italian holiday. Yes, oh right, and I that's I see.

712
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: I went on a scavenger hunt actually sponsored by Slate

713
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: um um all around Brooklyn. I discovered new neighborhoods. I

714
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: never even heard of. Cobble Hill, call up Cobble Slope.

715
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: And it was so fun because my grandmother she also

716
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: to say, prad you know, we said, Nana, you know,

717
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: I can't find you know, my journal? Yeah, I can't

718
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: find my guitar right, oh, she had one. She was

719
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: one of the first female Slate producers and they actually

720
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: they fired her and she just sat at her desk.

721
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: She said, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going anywhere. Yes, yes,

722
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: the first Slate culture gap Fest was produced by your grandmother,

723
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: nineteen Angelina Marada. And she's erased. She's absolutely raised. Yeah,

724
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: if you go to Slate dot com right if you

725
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: go to the Slate Museum in Annapolis, because there was

726
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: a lot of hate against Italian American podcast producers. A

727
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: lot is We've really come a long way in this industry,

728
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: but we still have work to do, absolutely, and the

729
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: work never stars doing the work. This I this photo

730
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: that Stephen just brought up. It's a paw and a bone,

731
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 1: so it is a dog. And I am actually about

732
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: to reference a different um photo okay, her dog, her

733
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: cat to say it's a little words waldo where I'm

734
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: looking at the photo and I'm like, I actually don't

735
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: see the heart. Do you see the heart here? So

736
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: there's what we're looking at. We're looking at one paw,

737
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: two bones, the next to his fluffy paw. So the

738
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: bones are arranged in like a like two sides of

739
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: a triangle. And I guess that might be with the

740
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: heart is. But to me, that's just like a you know,

741
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 1: that's like a carrot. You know, that's like the little

742
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: hot like the circumplex. It's just like this the heart

743
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: and I'm pointing to just like a piece of it's

744
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: like a light on the floor. Yeah, it's really hard

745
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: to say. It's kind of like I feel like you

746
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: thought that photo was cool, Drew with the fur and

747
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: the light. Yeah, she kind of thought it was a

748
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: trippy photo. And she's like, yeah, I'm actually not just

749
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: taking a pet photo. I'm just making a half for photo. Yeah.

750
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: And her cat is name Ben, which is so random.

751
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: I actually have to say, I do kind of like

752
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: just like super normal. No, I think that's actually kind

753
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: of like I used to think it was stupid, and

754
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 1: now I think it's so actually fucking radical and cool.

755
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: It's really fucking radical and coal just to be like,

756
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: this is my cat. John. Oh wait, I had this

757
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: idea that if I got a catach it with Stephen,

758
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: that it's like a portrait of you on your bed

759
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: with your big Persian Stephen under your Stephen painting and

760
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: again black and white photographer in New York Times magazine,

761
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: Stephen with his cat Steve also with a V, like

762
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: it's Stephen with a V. And then you're like, oh,

763
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: but the cats a the pH like absolutely not. Well,

764
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: now you have to I mean I've been saying this forever.

765
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: You have to get a cat. I being a cat

766
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about that in my next apartment. Totally

767
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: totally um any other. Oh there's another. She's like against

768
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: the celebrities, so many pets. When she calls in this

769
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: book her dog a funny little mama. Funny little MoMA.

770
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: It's just sleeping and she's like, uh, you funny little mama.

771
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, oh, I guess my one more kind of

772
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: note on this book. In photography, it feels like freshman

773
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: year to me art school. Someone comes in and they're

774
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: so excited and they took photos with their iPhone four

775
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: because it's two thousand and five, and they did filters

776
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: and they printed them out and they think it's like

777
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: a genius and then they bring it to krit and

778
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: it just gets ripped, ripped apart, and like after class

779
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: or like they're Atripotle just like kind of callback crying,

780
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: just being like crying and being like I love photography,

781
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: I thought, And everyone's like someone's comforting her, but some

782
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: people are like still like I would be the one

783
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: being like you fucking serious, like bringing in iPhone photos

784
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: and you you would have torn her up. But now

785
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: I think I have a little more age on that. Yeah,

786
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: but I think you still would have said that, like

787
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: it was pretty simplastic, simplistic amateure to just be like

788
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: I found hearts and things. Yeah, and to do it

789
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: on your phone and be right, because like where is

790
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: the technique? Ultimately, yes, I mean now it's too easy.

791
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: It's too easy. It's simply too easy. Okay, But other question,

792
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: do you remember I'm sure you do the art that

793
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: I made in high school because it's still framed in

794
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: my bedroom in Boston. That's like all disposable camera photos

795
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: of television. And then I cut up the photos and

796
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: like rearrange them in like a crazy mosaic. Oh that

797
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that was cut up photos of television. Yeah,

798
00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: because I was so like media steadies, mediast because the

799
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: assignment was like our teacher gave us all disposed of camera,

800
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: was like make anything, and I was just like, I'm

801
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: going to take photos of yes V because that is

802
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: like what I'm so inspired by. Well, I want you

803
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: to bring back that piece and your painting of j Low. Okay,

804
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: we'll post it in the slack, we'll post on Slade.

805
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: And then of course, I mean there was my high

806
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: school final project, the Cindy Sherman, which just began my

807
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: current career of just dressing up as women. Right where

808
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: I did characters yea and yeah, so actually we love photography. Click.

809
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: How does she live? What does she eat? What does

810
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: she wear? What does she eat? But what does she eat?

811
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: I mean in this book we have pancakes, bagels, fish

812
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: market chicken. She's getten a good mix, a lot of

813
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: protein in there. I think she's getting really good proteins.

814
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: I think she eats carbs when they're good, like she's like, yes,

815
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: pancake more mornings. I did watch a new episode recently

816
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: of The wa Okay where they Real Okay, the HomeMatic

817
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: of CBC RAG. It's these two gals from Nashville who

818
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: organized like one room at a time in people's houses.

819
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: It's the most absolutely demented shoot. FAPs is insane because

820
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: they organize her show test kitchen, the show test kitchen,

821
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: So it's not even the kitchen that's like on camera.

822
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: It's like the bat it's not even in her kitchen.

823
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: It's not her kitchen either, it's the kitchen that in

824
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: her like chief Food Segment producer uses made. I gotta

825
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: say they did really need it, oh absolutely, because it

826
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: had so much like free like faux la cruse, like

827
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: every like whatever random Great Jones is sending them a

828
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: gazillion like Forest Green, Matt All on one Pain and

829
00:47:53,600 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: Drew Striving. She's always emotional, but she started crying when

830
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: they for fielded, and what did she She was like,

831
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean she's in this like big suit. Oh yeah,

832
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: she's now like in full zoot suit territory. Because it's like,

833
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, all like female celebrities now are always

834
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: doing glam suits. As you so astutely said on the

835
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: how every like ninety percent of like big budget fashion

836
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: editorial now is zen Diana suit? Why like why does

837
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: to the leg she it's yellow, it's power colors. It's open. Yeah,

838
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: And and Drew was in just like this four piece

839
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: of suits like with like like pocketwatches being being so

840
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: like the Penguin Gotham it's Dick Tracy, It's it's Penguin o'clock.

841
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: And like especially if you're like on TV, because there's

842
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: this like I don't know, there's something like I see

843
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: this all the time with like comedians who go on

844
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: late night shows and like or it's or very like

845
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: Amber rough In, like she's always fully Colonel Sanders and

846
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: it's just like every it's just everyone's just like well like,

847
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: now women can wear suits, we're still gonna be glam

848
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Speaker 1: about it, and we're gonna have huge bows and like,

849
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: well they're at it because I think of the nineties

850
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: there with when it was like Demi Morena suit smoking

851
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: a cigar looking the cover of Esquire. I'm just making

852
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: this cover up, but love that cover. Well you're thinking

853
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: of the Katie Land cover. Where is it Demi? Who's

854
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: shaving her that? Oh yeah, it's Demi And no, it's

855
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: Katie and City Crawford Ta Tana, gotta give it to her. Um,

856
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: but that's Katie Lane is a huge lesbian. I'm talking

857
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: about like straight women right in suits. And I think

858
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: that was more they were putting them just like a

859
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: classic man's black blazer. Yes, and it was being cool

860
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: and it was being more like smoking jacket like pedophaps,

861
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: like isn't that cool? And like now it's this big

862
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: primary color push. Yeah, and it's the primary color push

863
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: and then also the like more like why yeah, I

864
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: know we could chill at the bows. You would think,

865
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny as I do feel like Melannia

866
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: like our most stylish like first lady ever, like was

867
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: like people like pretended to hate her, but like her

868
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: style is still being so influential, and like everyone's still

869
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: dressing my pink suit, her pink suon and her big

870
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: bows and like oh that huge. Yeah, I mean not

871
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: that she wasn't following a trend, but yeah I was

872
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: from Zara. Yeah, but I bet I am just like

873
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: a little bit like you know, if people really hated her,

874
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: then they then she would be killing those trends and

875
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: she's not right, Okay, what does true? How does she live?

876
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: How does she live? Is it messy because you want

877
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: to say she's so like lived in and there are

878
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: so many little bowls of bits and bobs and she's

879
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: so like keys bowl everywhere, keys bowls and like Sardinian

880
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 1: plates and Sardinia rage with you book a flight already,

881
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: you're obsessed. I wish, but again, flights these days? So

882
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: um wooden blinds. I guess it's like I'm I'm wondering, right,

883
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: I think the wooden Blinds is interesting because you're now

884
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: putting her more in this like like cold the like Philadelphia,

885
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: New England space or something. I know that philadephis on

886
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: New England. But I'm like, I guess because I'm just

887
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: like it's like how Nancy Myers is it and how

888
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: cream couches it? And I'm like, that is what I

889
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: can't figure out. Is it cream couch or not? Okay,

890
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: I was about to say, I feel like it's there's

891
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 1: it's like deep door. I was gonna say, I feel

892
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: like it's I think she just got in the most

893
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: recent few years a low, huge velvet sectional yep, thank you.

894
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: And that bow. I mean maybe she also just has

895
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: that on the show and like she's wearing bows and

896
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: is oh. I was literally just about to say that's

897
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: Zen Diana suit. Yeah, she recently converted her living room,

898
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: does that Zen diet in a suit and got in

899
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: low velvet, big couch And because I mean obviously there's

900
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: like a New York and in La yeah, um, and

901
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: I think there are there is like in New York

902
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: is actually just satur and more like selling and sunset

903
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: in this way where there's just like gold like is

904
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: West Almond gold and like a very low pile like

905
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: gray rug and like light gray floors. And it's because

906
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: it's there for like meetings and like La is where

907
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: more like the kids go crazy and and like I

908
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: think it is a little bit more like you know,

909
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: like little steps in French doors and like big yard

910
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: and there's a more country bide. Yeah, so I mean

911
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: her show so I'm basically is so like here's my

912
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: big like mid century desk. Yeah, okay, high better a

913
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: little bit. I think it's flow. Yes, absolutely, thank you

914
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: because New York, right, She's being more hotel about it

915
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: and needs it to be like covered in so many

916
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: pillows on like sleep mask. I need thirteen hours. She's like,

917
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: I need thirteen hours because I'm waking up at like

918
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: four am to shoot my show. And like there's so

919
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: many chargers and the other LA is a little more

920
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: like kids Bend. The cat is just hopping in there.

921
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: There's chargers in LA too, but different in a different way.

922
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: And like there, I feel like there are closets that

923
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 1: are like there are some pantries that are so celebrity organized.

924
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: And then she's opening up just being like I need

925
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: to focus on this. Well, she's calling the homett, she's

926
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: calling the hot and they're coming over, and then of

927
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: course it's the office with so much like eat weird

928
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: et adults. Okay, who are you in the book? So

929
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: I was thinking that maybe I am what I'm calling

930
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: the German Girl. So there's this photo of a girl's

931
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: ass um and she's in like a dirn doll. She's

932
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: in like an october fest little like little skirt with

933
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: like the high stocks and the corset, and then there's

934
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: two like hearts likes on the like white tool like skart.

935
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: I guess when I saw this, I instantly was like, oh,

936
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: this is like hot topic fruit squirrel. But now I

937
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: realized how German it is. Yeah, um, because I love Europe,

938
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: so I was thinking maybe I'm her. But then I

939
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: was like, am I cemetery girl when she takes photo

940
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: that heart shaped gravestone because I do love wayne cemeteries.

941
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: But then I was like, is Lily cemetery girl? Because

942
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: you're so like pinhole for smoking a blunt in the

943
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: cemetery in high school vibes? Okay, I think I am

944
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: this like back of a building that's a little more

945
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: nineties decrepit urban decay. Where are malls? Yeah, yes, capitalism,

946
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: watch it break? Okay, you're that. I'm German girl. Done

947
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: another book in the books? Um um what I give

948
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: this book five vintage kodak um boxes that you're buying

949
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: on eBay out of five, I give it maybe four

950
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,959
Speaker 1: of those. Remember those polaroids that was like the zone

951
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: camera that I have. Oh, and they come out as

952
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: like a sticker, so cool. I give it four out

953
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: of five zone stickers. Um, you know, it is pretty

954
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: random and some of the pictures are I'm not even

955
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: seeing the heart and the lighting is pretty as we discussed.

956
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: It's not like so wildly like compelling. It don't jump out, however,

957
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: the concept is there. I do love how unpretentious it is.

958
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how pious. I love her um fierce

959
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: desire to be a random as fuck yeah, consistently yeah,

960
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: and not give aol. And this is why her and

961
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: cameras are breast friends and like she I mean, her

962
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: career has had so many turns, and the fact that

963
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: she's also committed to her insanely random like positive talk show. Yeah,

964
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: she just fully has like she's kind of like barreled

965
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: through like all It's like Busy Phillips couldn't hack it.

966
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: Like Busy Phillips was like desperately trying to do this

967
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: like topical contemporary show with like so many like fluorescent

968
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: lights in like this urban outfit or sex also a

969
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: big yellow suit and being so big yellow sud and

970
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: everyone was like being so pussy about on there and

971
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: She's like, and I'm so excited to like have this

972
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 1: late as that comedian's knew lu aplas, Oh my god,

973
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: Like Bay, what's the mark of reader rage today? It

974
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: was like right because at the at the end of

975
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: the day, like Busy Phillips is totally kookie in a chica,

976
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 1: but like Drew is absolutely like kookie as all hell,

977
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: and it is like a weird seventies talk show and like, yeah, normal,

978
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: it's not normal, whereas Busy Phillips is too modern into

979
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: like normally insecure in a social media way and being

980
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: like but first marks, but first marks, and is it's

981
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: very self conscious and like Drew is kind of just

982
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: like I've been through it all, like I can do

983
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: whatever I want. She is a funny mama. Yeah, She's

984
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: a absolute funny mama. So find the funny mama um

985
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:11,560
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