Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording Not So Live from
Speaker 1: my Brooklyn bunker. Folks, you know, I want to start
Speaker 1: off today's show with making a very declarative statement, which
Speaker 1: is this, Republicans are working to destabilize America, full stop.
Speaker 1: Joe Mansion and Kursen Cinema are working in concert with
Speaker 1: them to destabilize America. I believe that both sets right,
Speaker 1: these two quote unquote democratic senators and the bullshit Republican
Speaker 1: insurrectionists have the same goal, recognize the same problem, and
Speaker 1: instead of addressing it head on, they're just in it
Speaker 1: to get there. So here's the problem. The problem is
Speaker 1: that America has a lot that is fucking wrong right.
Speaker 1: Climate crisis is not impending. It is here, our voter
Speaker 1: suppression crisis, the crisis of our democracy is not something
Speaker 1: that is future thought to be happening in the future.
Speaker 1: It is happening now. The assault, the attack on uteruses
Speaker 1: is happening now, which you will hear from our friend
Speaker 1: doctor Jonathan Metzel. We are facing a aggressive Supreme Court
Speaker 1: who is hell bent on turning America into the wild
Speaker 1: wild West, while marauding as if they give a fuck
Speaker 1: about actual Second Amendment rights. It really just as part
Speaker 1: of the grand scheme destabilize America because our problems are
Speaker 1: so big and so vast, and you know that Republicans
Speaker 1: have no fucking plans, right. I bring this up all
Speaker 1: the time that remember during the twenty twenty election, the
Speaker 1: RNC did not offer up what their platform was. You
Speaker 1: cannot go to the rnc's page right now and pull
Speaker 1: up their platform or agenda. They were like, oh, just
Speaker 1: rock with what we had in twenty sixteen, as if
Speaker 1: nothing in the world has changed during that time. Oh
Speaker 1: mind you in my list of things that I said
Speaker 1: was wrong, global health pandemic, But that goes without saying.
Speaker 1: These days, what I recognize about these people who were
Speaker 1: elected to be representative voices for their constituents is that
Speaker 1: they're looking at all of these fires, both literal and figuratively,
Speaker 1: that are in the country right now, and they're saying
Speaker 1: this take a lot of work. It would take a
Speaker 1: lot of thought and strategy and policy thinking and writing.
Speaker 1: And you know, at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: don't really want all Americans to succeed. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I really want to make sure that
Speaker 1: I don't go to Hell in a handbasket along with
Speaker 1: the country. I want to make sure that I get mine.
Speaker 1: Eleventh Films, who has been an extraordinary arm I think
Speaker 1: very much underutilized by the Democrats of the DNC, the
Speaker 1: d Triple C, the DSCC in terms of targeting their messaging.
Speaker 1: But Eleventh Films put out a two minute clip I
Speaker 1: retweeted it yesterday with regard to Joe Mansion and how
Speaker 1: much money Joe Mansion has made, how much money Joe
Speaker 1: Mansion's children have made, how much money Joe Mansion's wife
Speaker 1: has made, and then they put that in parallel in
Speaker 1: comparison to how fucking poor West Virginia is. Did you
Speaker 1: know that Joe Mansion has been representing West Virginia in
Speaker 1: some form or fashion for forty years. Do you also
Speaker 1: know that West Virginia is that the bottom in most
Speaker 1: things that you would equate to a successful industrialized country
Speaker 1: and state that West Virginia is I think forty seven
Speaker 1: or forty six in education, forty seven forty six in healthcare,
Speaker 1: in income, they are at the bottom of every fucking
Speaker 1: societal wrong, and yet Joe Mansion, right, I think I
Speaker 1: think that they were talking about in this film that
Speaker 1: the average income right of people in West Virginia is
Speaker 1: somewhere around like twenty eight or thirty thousand dollars a year. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Joe Mansion is worth about eight million. And here's the
Speaker 1: thing is that his paycheck is not where Joe Mansion
Speaker 1: has made his money. So this is what we all
Speaker 1: have to understand here, is that Joe Mansion, as a senator,
Speaker 1: makes a salary which is open. If you go onto
Speaker 1: Open Secrets, you can see every member's salary. It's the
Speaker 1: point of transparency. But what they don't tell you when
Speaker 1: they go to open secrets is that this is only
Speaker 1: a portion of what your member is bringing in that
Speaker 1: is covered under ethics. Joe Mansion makes one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty four five hundred dollars a year as senator. But
Speaker 1: that's not where Joe Mansion gets a ball of his money.
Speaker 1: A bulk of his money comes from his son's energy company,
Speaker 1: the family energy company. I put that in air quotes,
Speaker 1: and I say it with disdain because what is their
Speaker 1: energy company about. It's not about clean energy, it's not
Speaker 1: about wind energy or solar, it's not about anything that
Speaker 1: has to do with the future of preventing climate change. No,
Speaker 1: their energy comes from coal. Joe Mansion makes probably about
Speaker 1: I think in the film, and you guys check me
Speaker 1: in the comment section if I'm wrong, but close to
Speaker 1: half a million dollars a year that he's bringing in
Speaker 1: from his son's energy company. His wife is bringing in
Speaker 1: a little over six hundred thousand. His daughter, who also
Speaker 1: has some type of role in that company, was also
Speaker 1: in pharmaceuticals where she upped the price of the EpiPen,
Speaker 1: which you know people need for life or death, by
Speaker 1: six hundred percent. You know, she was one of those
Speaker 1: people in the pharmaceutical world that were brought before Congress
Speaker 1: because how did you decide to increase the life saving
Speaker 1: drug by six hundred percent in one year? Put that
Speaker 1: money in your pocket and your shareholders pockets, and think
Speaker 1: that nobody was going to notice or do anything about it.
Speaker 1: This kind, this family is so fucking shady and has
Speaker 1: their hands in so many of the wrong pockets, big
Speaker 1: coal and big pharma. So is it anyone surprised then
Speaker 1: that Joe Mansion is systematically cherry picking out the measures
Speaker 1: in the infrastructure bill that would allude to anything that
Speaker 1: deals with climate change head on, that he would systematically
Speaker 1: work against giving companies strategic timelines for when they have
Speaker 1: to change over their businesses and to clean our practices,
Speaker 1: because not for anything other than the fact that it
Speaker 1: would hurt his bottom line, it would hurt his pocket.
Speaker 1: So you see, when you start to follow the money,
Speaker 1: as I've been saying on this show, as I've been
Speaker 1: saying on any show that will have me on and
Speaker 1: on Twitter, when you start to follow the money, you
Speaker 1: become very aware of who Joe Mansion is actually representing
Speaker 1: in the Senate, who Kursten Cinema is representing in the Senate. Now,
Speaker 1: you see, we already know what Republicans are doing, right,
Speaker 1: Like their mission is power and power for absolute power's sake,
Speaker 1: because once they get power, which they will most likely
Speaker 1: get back in the House and most likely get back
Speaker 1: in the Senate, they're going to blow up the rules.
Speaker 1: They're going to do whatever they can to make the
Speaker 1: final years of Joe Biden's administration hell on Earth. And
Speaker 1: then when they put in their Manchurian candidate, who will
Speaker 1: either be Trump or Trump Light, they're going to finish
Speaker 1: the job. Right. You remember Mortal Kombat where they were, like,
Speaker 1: finish them. That's what the Republicans are doing to our democracy.
Speaker 1: Joe Mansion and Kursen Cinema know that to be true.
Speaker 1: And instead of using their power to progress the nation
Speaker 1: and safeguard us against fascism, against authoritarianism, against an uneven
Speaker 1: and imbalanced capitalistic structure, instead of using their power and
Speaker 1: their leverage to add more elements into legislation to caretake
Speaker 1: for this country's well being for future generations, They're decided, Nah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get mine now. The eleventh film lays out
Speaker 1: bare that Joe Mansion is not representing the people of
Speaker 1: West Virginia, and the people of West Virginia are too
Speaker 1: fucking underwater in debt, in under education, in joblessness, in
Speaker 1: health disparities that you think that they have the time
Speaker 1: and the wherewithal to be able to look and see
Speaker 1: that this motherfucker who has forty years of name recognition
Speaker 1: hasn't done dick for their state four decades, for fucking decades,
Speaker 1: And what does West Virginia have to show for Joe
Speaker 1: Mansion's quote unquote leadership. So we look at these people
Speaker 1: and we say, oh, they have a d by their name.
Speaker 1: So that means that somehow they're Democrats, and at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, no the fuck they are not.
Speaker 1: They are shucking and jiving and pimping and holling themselves
Speaker 1: out to the highest fucking bidder. Things went wrong in
Speaker 1: politics when we allowed an exorbitant amount of money to
Speaker 1: flow through. When you have things like open secret that
Speaker 1: will tell us about the salary that these members of
Speaker 1: Congress are taking from their constituents, from us the taxpayers,
Speaker 1: but we don't also follow the money to see who
Speaker 1: else they're taking money from. And when you see that
Speaker 1: their interests, their own personal interests outweigh that of their
Speaker 1: constituents because they're like, Oh, you don't pay me to care.
Speaker 1: What Joe Mansion is doing right now. Isn't about fucking
Speaker 1: West Virginia. He could give a fuck. He's on a
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousan dollar yacht. Okay, literally, he don't care.
Speaker 1: Kirsten Cinema, you think she gives a fuck about the
Speaker 1: people of Arizona When that bitch is fundraising in Europe.
Speaker 1: Those aren't your constituents right in the middle of deals
Speaker 1: that would either better or destroy our country. That bitch
Speaker 1: got on a fucking flight to go to some fancy
Speaker 1: dinners and put more money in her pocket. And ain't
Speaker 1: nobody calling her out on it, you know, the saying
Speaker 1: that it's sometimes it's your own people. Yeah, don't give
Speaker 1: me the bullshit line about Democrats having a big tent.
Speaker 1: And you know how Joe Biden entertained progressives at the
Speaker 1: White House the other day, as if progressives are the
Speaker 1: fucking problem. You can't even get Kirsten Cinema to fucking
Speaker 1: show up at the White House. You're sending staff to
Speaker 1: her fucking office. What about the optics on that? I
Speaker 1: tell you Today, Jonathan and I are going to get
Speaker 1: into a very deep conversation where we actually don't agree.
Speaker 1: But what we do agree on is that this next
Speaker 1: slate of cases before the Supreme Court is putting the
Speaker 1: final nail in the coffin of America. That is not hyperbole.
Speaker 1: It is not me being very passionate for you know,
Speaker 1: for shitsakes, no, no, it is the fucking truth. When
Speaker 1: you take away women's rights, when you take away the
Speaker 1: people's voice, when you then turn around and with the
Speaker 1: same disgruntled, angry, disengaged citizens then decide that you're going
Speaker 1: to arm every single one of them, because you're going
Speaker 1: to erode one hundred year old laws that are on
Speaker 1: the book that would protect places like New York, LA, Boston,
Speaker 1: Miami from reckless, reckless, fucking gun laws. When you decide that,
Speaker 1: through the Trump administration, you appointed not one, not two,
Speaker 1: but three A rated NRA justices, When you have decided
Speaker 1: to put not one, not two hundred, but three hundred
Speaker 1: federal judges on the bench that also have A ratings
Speaker 1: with the NRA, A ratings with evangelical Christian groups, what
Speaker 1: the fuck do you think is going to happen? America
Speaker 1: is preparing for war. White America is fucking armed to
Speaker 1: the gills. They literally have all of the power and
Speaker 1: they are about to wield it in some of the
Speaker 1: ways that we had only seen in history books. Jonathan
Speaker 1: says something that is still ringing around in my head
Speaker 1: in our interview. He said that when hundred year old
Speaker 1: laws are up for grabs, then everything is up for grabs.
Speaker 1: That means Plusy versus Ferguson, Brown versus the Board of Education,
Speaker 1: That means every single right, That means marriage equality, that
Speaker 1: means every single thing that you thought was decided because
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court decided it, and so it is quote
Speaker 1: unquote the law of the land. Well, they are showing
Speaker 1: you right now that that shit is kind of temporary
Speaker 1: until you get the right justices and the right nefarious
Speaker 1: fucking Republicans to do your bidding. That it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if it took them thirty years to get back here.
Speaker 1: They are back and with a fucking vengeance. And the
Speaker 1: question that I have is what the fuck are we
Speaker 1: going to do about it? Because I'm telling you they're
Speaker 1: not going down without a fight, and neither should we.
Speaker 1: Coming up, dear friends, is my woke Wednesday conversation with
Speaker 1: our friend doctor Jonathan Metzel. Folks. As always on Wednesdays,
Speaker 1: I am so happy to be joined by our in
Speaker 1: house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, author of Dying of Whiteness,
Speaker 1: to talk about. Usually over the past couple of months,
Speaker 1: it has been a mix of COVID, more COVID than guns.
Speaker 1: But there is a case that Jonathan has been referencing
Speaker 1: coming up to be heard at the Supreme Court on
Speaker 1: November third, and in his latest piece for the Boston Review,
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is poised to put politics ahead of
Speaker 1: gun violence. New York State rifle and Pistol versus Bruin
Speaker 1: may give the right and it's politics of racial resentment
Speaker 1: a major win, but at the cost of gun control
Speaker 1: laws known to prevent shootings. Jonathan, let's just dive in.
Speaker 1: Why is it's so important right now to bring attention
Speaker 1: to this case that is coming up in the you know,
Speaker 1: in the next few weeks. Why is it important that
Speaker 1: all eyes should be on this Bruin case. Well, New
Speaker 1: York's had a licensing law in place for since nineteen thirteen,
Speaker 1: over one hundred years. And part of why that's important,
Speaker 1: excuse me, is that it's been largely effective. Right in
Speaker 1: other words, like in the city of New York particularly,
Speaker 1: not everyone who wants to get a gun can go
Speaker 1: get a gun. You have to show a special a
Speaker 1: special reason for getting a gun, like you have a
Speaker 1: risky job, or you're being stalked by an ex partner
Speaker 1: or something like that. So you go to the process
Speaker 1: and you get a license. But the NRA and pro
Speaker 1: gun politicians have for quite a long time been eyeing
Speaker 1: New York. In other words, if they could open up
Speaker 1: the gun market in New York, everybody would be buy guns.
Speaker 1: It would destable lies in New York all these factors,
Speaker 1: and so they've had an eye on this policy for
Speaker 1: quite some time, but they never had the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: to be able to overturn it because it's just total horseshit,
Speaker 1: to be honest, like, of course you want to be
Speaker 1: able to regulate guns in New York because even if
Speaker 1: people can carry guns, you know, for protection in reasons
Speaker 1: that they can prove, you don't want people carrying guns
Speaker 1: in the subway or drunk tourists carrying guns Time Square,
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve and stuff like that. And so finally
Speaker 1: they have a Supreme Court that's going to side with them,
Speaker 1: I think, and say. Basically, their argument is the Second
Speaker 1: Amendment should be as protected as the First Amendment. Just
Speaker 1: like you can have free speech anywhere, even though you
Speaker 1: really can't, you s's to be able to carry guns anywhere.
Speaker 1: And so this is a huge risk to New York,
Speaker 1: but not just New York, to other Blue cities like
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Boston, San Francisco that have historically regulated guns
Speaker 1: in public as a matter of public safety. So just
Speaker 1: along and the short of it, and I hope people
Speaker 1: get to read my piece. People really need to pay
Speaker 1: attention because this is one of those cases that can
Speaker 1: dramatically change the way we live and die, particularly in
Speaker 1: Blue America. You know, I am so scared and I
Speaker 1: am wondering why everyone else isn't. And you know, what
Speaker 1: is it, Jonathan? I mean, you wrote this long form, explosive, historical,
Speaker 1: thoughtful piece, folks, and again I will tell you the
Speaker 1: title of it, and it's at the Boston Review. Is
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is poised to put politics ahead of
Speaker 1: gun violence prevention. The implications of this are so far reaching.
Speaker 1: Like just listening to you say, well, essentially, if a
Speaker 1: over one hundred year old law is up for grabs,
Speaker 1: then you need to understand that everything is up for grabs.
Speaker 1: Should that be the narrative that is coming out of
Speaker 1: this White House? Why do you feel like they are
Speaker 1: I feel like their heads are in the sand, Like
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why there is no alarms going
Speaker 1: off right now. I think there is alarm. I just
Speaker 1: don't think they can be quite public about it. I
Speaker 1: mean the issue in part I mean, I do ask
Speaker 1: myself very up in what would Donald Trump have done
Speaker 1: he was handled this card? I mean, he would have
Speaker 1: overturned the filibuster in five seconds honestly and just done
Speaker 1: his thing. But I can say that there we see
Speaker 1: like like in the case of guns, for example, Trump
Speaker 1: Biden tried to put in as the head of the
Speaker 1: ATF somebody who was a strong proponent of gun violence prevention,
Speaker 1: and he couldn't get the support within his own party.
Speaker 1: We're seeing now with the budget negotiations. So I think
Speaker 1: in a way, if you're just going the traditional route,
Speaker 1: Biden's hands are tied in a way because he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the votes to do any of the things he wants.
Speaker 1: The problem is we're playing by the rules and the
Speaker 1: other side isn't. And so you know, if the Republicans
Speaker 1: were in our hands on our position, they would have
Speaker 1: gone nuclear by now, no doubt about it. And so
Speaker 1: part of the issue is we're trying to fix things
Speaker 1: within the system, and within the system, the Biden administration
Speaker 1: unfortunately doesn't have the votes, and it's it's about to
Speaker 1: get a bit more extreme with the twenty twenty two election.
Speaker 1: And so again the issue is you know who, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. Everybody read my piece and
Speaker 1: tell me what the answer is. I mean, the answer
Speaker 1: to me is unless this administration, which we know that
Speaker 1: they won't makes a concerted pivot and says, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes times, as you know, to quote the late great
Speaker 1: John Lewis, you need to make good trouble and sometimes
Speaker 1: the laws that are in place are the wrong fucking laws,
Speaker 1: and you need to be able to understand that sometimes
Speaker 1: you need to operate outside of that and and know
Speaker 1: that justice is on your side, right, and that at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, when and if history books
Speaker 1: are ever written, right that this is what they will say,
Speaker 1: is that like sometimes you have to go to war,
Speaker 1: right like this is this is this is that moment.
Speaker 1: It's like you're you're you hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 1: Democrats are operating and entire operating inside of a system
Speaker 1: that no longer exists. Republicans blew it up five years ago.
Speaker 1: So if they are literally showing you their hand, women's
Speaker 1: rights are on the table, gun laws are on the table,
Speaker 1: climate change is on the table, voting rights is on
Speaker 1: the table, school desaggregation is on the table. If they're
Speaker 1: showing you their hand and you're still operating in quote
Speaker 1: unquote good faith, then who is the dummy here? I mean,
Speaker 1: of course I agree with you, and that's part of
Speaker 1: why I wrote this piece. But the issue is even
Speaker 1: the argument. The way my mind works is like there's
Speaker 1: one side on the other side. It's probably a vestige
Speaker 1: of like some evolutionary screw up or something like that.
Speaker 1: But I think the way it look I mean, guns
Speaker 1: is such an interesting case, right because it wasn't just like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make you have guns, and there's pro gun
Speaker 1: side and anti gun side. What they did is they
Speaker 1: totally overturned the gun control side through a pretty intense
Speaker 1: process of getting liberals to own guns. Like over the
Speaker 1: last year, liberal gun owners have gone up, blackgown owners
Speaker 1: have gone up, you know, fifty percent or something like that.
Speaker 1: I have all the data and the piece, and so
Speaker 1: what they've done is not just you know, the kind
Speaker 1: of top down narrative, but they've also figured out a
Speaker 1: way to like muddy up the waters in a certain
Speaker 1: kind of way so nobody knows quite what side they're on.
Speaker 1: And guns is a perfect example of this. Now there
Speaker 1: are tons of black Americans because of this very targeted
Speaker 1: follow the links in my piece you'll see very targeted,
Speaker 1: very conscious effort to tell people, oh, you see what
Speaker 1: happened to George Floyd. Well, that means you have to
Speaker 1: be armed because the police aren't going to protect you.
Speaker 1: Like they're very good at, like you know, undermining even think.
Speaker 1: So then when Biden comes in and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we need gun control, the people are like, no, I
Speaker 1: need a gun to protect myself from the police. So
Speaker 1: in a way, they're very good at marketing to our side. Also,
Speaker 1: it's not just marketing to their own people. And I've
Speaker 1: been saying since the election that that's in a less
Speaker 1: nefarious way, that's what we need to be doing. Like
Speaker 1: when we were protecting the Affordable Care Act, we should
Speaker 1: have been putting Republicans on the defensive, like having their
Speaker 1: own targeting their own base and saying, hey, why isn't
Speaker 1: your person giving you healthcare something like that, But we
Speaker 1: never do that. It's all about virtue signal for our
Speaker 1: own side. And the reality is is that while yes,
Speaker 1: I agree with you in terms of the marketing that
Speaker 1: is done and that they are incredibly savvy, reality is
Speaker 1: also a good marketer too. The fact is is that
Speaker 1: I was one of those people and I am one
Speaker 1: of those black people that are just like you know what,
Speaker 1: they're going to try and kill us right, like they
Speaker 1: are doing it every day and it is only through
Speaker 1: the grace of God that we don't see more headlines
Speaker 1: every day of another unarmed black person that was hunted,
Speaker 1: that was killed in a street like a fucking animal.
Speaker 1: And frankly in saying, we know that the cops don't
Speaker 1: protect us, they never have, right, It was one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why the Black Panthers, along with creating food
Speaker 1: programs and literacy programs, were like, you need to exercise
Speaker 1: your Second Amendment rights. This is not new because the
Speaker 1: fact is is that when we're talking about there being
Speaker 1: over close to four hundred million guns in the United States,
Speaker 1: a majority of them are not owned by people of color, right,
Speaker 1: And so when you start to look at the numbers
Speaker 1: realize that you're already being hunted, then it is then
Speaker 1: who are what are you going to You're gonna sit
Speaker 1: around and say, oh, no, we're going to march this out.
Speaker 1: No you're not, because at some point in time that's
Speaker 1: not what is going to work, right. But I mean,
Speaker 1: it's funny, because this is the book I'm writing right now,
Speaker 1: is that on one hand, it's like, well, they have guns,
Speaker 1: and guns have been so constructed as a vestige of
Speaker 1: white authority that it's like, well, if you have a gun,
Speaker 1: I want a gun, and so that makes sense, right,
Speaker 1: that makes emotional sense, and I understand that position. But
Speaker 1: I also think it's a very dangerous slippery slope for
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. One is, trust me, American society
Speaker 1: is never going to let it's never going to be
Speaker 1: a fair fight. I'll say that white America is always
Speaker 1: going to be better armed in every way possible. The
Speaker 1: system is built that way, and so a bunch of
Speaker 1: any group of people running out and getting arms, it's
Speaker 1: not going to overturn the system. It's going to solve
Speaker 1: systemic oppression. That's That's kind of the point I get to.
Speaker 1: My piece is there's an emotional pull of doing that.
Speaker 1: On one hand, it makes sense, right, you feel like
Speaker 1: the other side has guns, why don't we? But you're
Speaker 1: also playing right into the hands of the gun manufacturers
Speaker 1: and the gun sellers. Um, you're also opening up the
Speaker 1: door for all these other unintended consequences, like in places
Speaker 1: like Tennessee where I am right now, opening up gun
Speaker 1: rights has also led to more aggressive policing, um incarceration
Speaker 1: for all these other kinds of crimes that are almost
Speaker 1: over overwhelmingly Black Americans, like you know, gun theft and
Speaker 1: gun whatever and stuff like that, Um, that that are
Speaker 1: getting charged. Um, And it's and it's in a way
Speaker 1: m justifying. Um, you know, white flight, unequal tax faces,
Speaker 1: all these other unintended consequences of militarization. So I guess
Speaker 1: the hard, harder question is how do you resist that narrative? Right,
Speaker 1: it's not just like, oh, you have guns, I'm going
Speaker 1: to to get guns. You actually have to think what's
Speaker 1: another answer other than running out to get guns? Because
Speaker 1: I just really worry that if everybody's got guns, we're
Speaker 1: just going to have the same problems of structural racism.
Speaker 1: It's just that the stakes are going to be a
Speaker 1: lot more lethal. And the funny thing is is that
Speaker 1: I never play Devil's Advocate, and not with you, and
Speaker 1: very rarely on the show. But the reality is is
Speaker 1: that for black people and people of color, the stakes
Speaker 1: have always been high, and our lives have always been
Speaker 1: on the line, and our blood has always been the
Speaker 1: one that has been spilled in the streets. And so
Speaker 1: we know that the system is rigged against us. We
Speaker 1: know that we are going to be outgunned and out
Speaker 1: out maneuvered and outpowered. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: when we're marching steadily towards this apocalyptic present, it's like,
Speaker 1: do you want to go out on your feet or
Speaker 1: do you want to go out on your knees? And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that there are many people that are
Speaker 1: moving in the direction of I'd rather go out on
Speaker 1: my feet. Don't because don't you start packing me. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just I'm just I'm just saying I am
Speaker 1: just like the other side. I know we're at a time,
Speaker 1: but I would just ask people to read the piece
Speaker 1: because there's a long history of who gets to carry
Speaker 1: a gun in public and so um, there's there's a
Speaker 1: history of race here. That's just really really important to
Speaker 1: remember that the minute black people start carrying guns in public,
Speaker 1: that's what led to the clan night rides for example,
Speaker 1: that led to all these other factors. And so I
Speaker 1: just I would urge people to look at places where
Speaker 1: there are equal open carry rights like here in Tennessee, um,
Speaker 1: and see that the effect is more inequity, more racism,
Speaker 1: not less, because it leads to all these other unattended
Speaker 1: consequences like um, white flight, unequal text, bases war, says
Speaker 1: all the other kind of things. And so in a
Speaker 1: way I understand that urge and and and just to
Speaker 1: be very clear, the article is about carrying guns in public.
Speaker 1: It's not about guns. Gun ownership. That's what right right now. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: so we'll have to see. But but I would just say,
Speaker 1: you know, if um, but if you get if you start,
Speaker 1: if you start carrying, I'll just hide behind you. So
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