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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. We are back in better than ever. Hello,

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Speaker 1: almost Famous fans. I'm Ben, I'm Ashley, and you guys,

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Speaker 1: we are here for the Ben is Engaged edition of

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Speaker 1: this podcast. Can you I mean yes, we can believe?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, can you believe? It's like this

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Speaker 1: was honestly the most obvious engagement to me that's ever happened.

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Speaker 1: Like I've never seen two people more perfect, more in

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Speaker 1: love and ready for an engagement than you too. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So this is the very first time Ashley I'll be

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Speaker 1: speaking in detail. I spoke with Et and Lauren's sema

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Speaker 1: because she's a good friend. But this podcast today is

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Speaker 1: going to be all about the details, similar to what

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Speaker 1: I did with Lauren um on our engagement. But Jessica

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Speaker 1: and I are just ecstatic and I'm glad that you

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Speaker 1: think it wasn't a surprise and it wasn't shocking because

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Speaker 1: it wasn't to me either. It's I've known this for

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Speaker 1: a long time. It was just trying to get the

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Speaker 1: timing right. Yeah, And speaking of chiming, you didn't exactly

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Speaker 1: plan to propose during um COVID nineteen and you had

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Speaker 1: a whole different plan. I was aware of it, but

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Speaker 1: our audience wasn't. Are you willing to talk about how

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Speaker 1: you plan to do it and how you came to

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Speaker 1: the decision to just do it during quarantine? Well, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: I would only say this and talk about this with

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Speaker 1: our almost famous family. So I am very willing to

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Speaker 1: talk about it because you all have been there since

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Speaker 1: the beginning. As I've talked about with Ashley many times.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy to think how this podcast has

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Speaker 1: uh been a part of our ups and downs and

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Speaker 1: stories and trials and tribulations, uh for three over three

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Speaker 1: years of our life. So so here's the whole idea, uh,

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Speaker 1: And I'll just start at the beginning, uh into Simber.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Jessica's dad about Mary and Jessica, and UM,

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Speaker 1: it was a really, really great conversation in the details.

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Speaker 1: You're so nervous. I was so nervous, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: like he made me feel incredible. And there's a very

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Speaker 1: few moments in life I talked to Jared about this

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Speaker 1: that are as nerve wracking as sitting down with the

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Speaker 1: father of a daughter and saying, hey, like I want

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Speaker 1: to ask her to marry me. Uh, that is a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge conversation and one that nobody takes lightly. I don't,

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Speaker 1: or at least you should not take lightly. So we

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Speaker 1: have this conversation. Tell us all the details. I want

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Speaker 1: to know everything. You asked him, like your host speel,

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Speaker 1: well that you know what. I think. The one thing Ashley,

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Speaker 1: that I will keep private is our conversation. I think

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Speaker 1: that for the most part um the conversation existed like this.

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Speaker 1: I asked for permission, he gave me permission, and then

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Speaker 1: without going into the kind of the things that we

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Speaker 1: not expectations, but my He allowed me the space to

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Speaker 1: ask him any question. I allowed him the space to

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Speaker 1: So here's how it went down, though. So I asked

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Speaker 1: that's right, she has to move. She was moving back

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Speaker 1: she at that point still didn't know what was happening,

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00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: because her face was shocked, like I'm not kidding you,

431
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: I have Oh yeah, I'll post a couple of pictures

432
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: of this. Her mouth is wide open. She doesn't even

433
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: say yes. When I asked her to marry me. She

434
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: just shakes her head up and down and says, and

435
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: that's it. And then I said, is that a yes?

436
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: And she goes yeah, like just complete shock um and excitement.

437
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: And she starts crying and I'm crying, and we kiss

438
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: and we hug, and at this point, I said, and

439
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: there's others that want to come celebrate with us, And

440
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 1: that's when my parents walked around the corner and her

441
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: parents walked around the corner, and her brothers uh and

442
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: her sister in law and then they're also their dog Penny,

443
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: who's thirteen, who grew up with Jessica, came around the

444
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: corner as well, and we all uh celebrated together. Um,

445
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: and we were able to enjoy this and so it

446
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: was quick, um, but so special and uh, if you

447
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: can when when I post some of these pictures later,

448
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to do after the podcast so that you

449
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: guys could all get a kind of a picture of

450
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: what or an idea of what was going on at

451
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: the time. Uh. It was the most beautiful setting, Like

452
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: I could not have pictured anything better. That is so awesome.

453
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: It just happens to have upon the backyard right and

454
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: one that like isn't disgusting and looking bad right now.

455
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: And also, uh, they happen to have like a bunch

456
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: of sunflowers that we were able to set up because

457
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: that's her favorite flower, and so we set up this

458
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: like just a couple of different pots of sunflowers. Um.

459
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: The picture makes it look like honestly, I spent months

460
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: planning this, but thanks to the help of her brothers,

461
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: my mom, uh, my dad, her dad, and her mom,

462
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: we made this. I think we made it really nice.

463
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: That is so cool. I'm so happy for you guys.

464
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe she was shocked after the whole speel.

465
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: Like I remember during our proposal, I was like, he's

466
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: doing it, he's not doing he's doing it, he's not

467
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: doing it, And it was just like there was no

468
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: I just knew, like there was a proposal, you know,

469
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: like this is an engagement thing. This is an engaging thing.

470
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: So what was she thinking? It possibly was that you

471
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: were crying about. Well, actually, here's a crazy part. She

472
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: thought I started crying because she thought it really two

473
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: things she said, One I was ending, Like it went

474
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: through her that in her mind that I was ending

475
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: this relationship, which was really well, just because you're human

476
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: and I think there's been chaos and you jumped to

477
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario. So the second thing that she

478
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: thought it could be was this proposal. But again, I

479
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: want to reiterate, like, think about how confusing it was

480
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: for me um and all these changes and then there's

481
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: so many things that are unexpected and kind of chaotic

482
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: right now that I don't think she thought that I

483
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: would propose during so much chaos because of the planning

484
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: that she knew I wanted to put into making this

485
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: very special, and so I don't. I think she just thought,

486
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: there's no way this is happening, because there's no way

487
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: that he could have predicted that we've been in Nashville.

488
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: He could have predicted that my family could have been here,

489
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: he could have predicted all these things like, and she's right,

490
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't. But we spent a ton of time to

491
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: make sure it was special with only a week's notice. Okay,

492
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: so that makes sense. She just was so surprised that

493
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: you would do it then that it wasn't even like

494
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: a possibility in her head. And she loves so The

495
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: one thing about Jessica she comes from a big Italian family.

496
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: She loves her family on her mom and dad's side

497
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: so much, and she especially is close with her mom's

498
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: side of the family because they're huge Italian family and

499
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: they all live in Connecticut. So she kind of, in

500
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: her back of her head had thought, oh, he gonna

501
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: propose me on the East Coast because then we're gonna

502
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: be able to celebrate with my whole family when we're

503
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: together for the tour. So I think, when I honestly think,

504
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: when the tour got postponed. She her heart like dropped

505
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: out of her chest because she thought, I'm moving back

506
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: home with my parents. I have no clue of what

507
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get engaged. I don't really know what my

508
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: future looks like. Ben hasn't talked to me about our

509
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: future and months, and I don't know why and if

510
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: he's ending things or if he still isn't as he's

511
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: always said. Like I was talking to her brother the

512
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: night before uh we we I did I proposed to her,

513
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, half of the thing that I

514
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: really am excited about is this that this girl that

515
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: I love and that I want to make feel safe

516
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: and comfortable has been so confused about our relationship for

517
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: three months now. Like I can't take that any longer. Yeah,

518
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: because you guys would always talk about marriage and stuff

519
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: like this was something you were open about before December. Yeah,

520
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: for the first like six months of our relationship, and

521
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: then after that we haven't talked about it since because

522
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: I've been planning it. Okay, Yeah, I guess that is

523
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: very worrisome. So is the plan to live together, to

524
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: move in together, because I know you're talking about you know,

525
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: parents house, her apartment least being up. Uh. We we

526
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: won't before we're married. That is a choice that that

527
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: we've talked about, and we've we've gone back and forth

528
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: on it. Uh for a couple of reasons we won't.

529
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: One is um you know the I think a lot

530
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: of it is respect for my family and her family.

531
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: It's also, as I talked about before, like lessons learned

532
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: uh from past relationships. Uh. And also I think uh

533
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: for Jessica and I, uh, we have um abstain and

534
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: try to do this the best we can to make

535
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: our relationship as healthy as possible, and there is uh

536
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: there are steps that we still want to take to

537
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: do that. And so that's why right now we will

538
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: not be living together before married. But I think we'll

539
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: be finding a house before then that we can both

540
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: start to make our own very nice. So what's the

541
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: plan for where she's gonna live? Is she's gonna extend

542
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: her lease for another year? Is she gonna live with

543
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: her parents? When are you planning to get married? I mean,

544
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: I know you're not like having a wedding planner meetings

545
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: right now. You're obviously not planning the wedding right now,

546
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: But do you have a general idea of like the

547
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: month of the season that you'd like to do it. Well,

548
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: he is the funny part. Her brother does play professional

549
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: baseball and he uh everybody have talked to in the

550
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: Clark family has made sure that I know that we

551
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: have to do this during the off season. So there

552
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: is a very select few months that baseball is not

553
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: active uh and um and so because of that, we're

554
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna be getting married in those months. Uh And in

555
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: addition to what are the off season months? Uh so

556
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: right now we don't really know like November, November through February.

557
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's so like right now is the

558
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: question is like I don't know when baseball season is

559
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: going to be coming back, and I don't know the

560
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: new calendar day dates or the schedule. Um. And so

561
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: I think the best option for the lack of stress

562
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: at peace of mind is right now with all the

563
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: chaos and all the confusion for everybody, um that we

564
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: will probably not make any future wedding plans until this

565
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: is done and over and we have a clearer idea

566
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: of when we even could get married and what dates

567
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: would be available. Have you had friends that have had

568
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: to cancel weddings. Uh. Yeah, yeah, Jessica and I both

569
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: have had friends we've had it's really sad. Actually have

570
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: this one friend who had this beautiful, huge wedding plan

571
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: and they just had to say that it's canceled, but

572
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: they don't get a deposit back. And so, yeah, really

573
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: sad we've had. I mean, so here's a part, here's

574
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: a note here. Within all of this. Um, you know,

575
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: jess and I have been able to celebrate this engagement

576
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: and do it in a way that means that we're

577
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: just like hanging out in the house and laughing and

578
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: looking at a ring together and talking about our future

579
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: and all the things that we love about each other.

580
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: And that's really sweet and nice. But it doesn't take

581
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: away from the same conversations we had uh two weeks

582
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: ago on this podcast. Uh that kind of revolved around

583
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: a lot of pain that is only getting worse as

584
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: this virus continues to be active and spreading across the US,

585
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: and the pain from job loss, and the pain from

586
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: huge plans being changed, like weddings, like funerals not being

587
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: able to be attended to, and people's legacies not being

588
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: able to celebrated. And so I think with all that

589
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: being said, and not to be a debbie downer, because

590
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: I am happy and I am celebrating and my life

591
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: will forever be better because of what happened, uh just

592
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: two days ago. I also know that, like for Jessica

593
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: and I, it is smart for us to do this

594
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: in wisdom as well, and to know that the best

595
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: time to plan is probably not during a pandemic. Yeah,

596
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: I have it on my list of questions how you

597
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: got em? Yeah? I have it right here. I'm a

598
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: list of questions how you managed to get her out

599
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: of genes and out of like quarantine and tire. We'll

600
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: get the answer to that and much more right after

601
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: this break, Ben, the ring is stunning. Did you get

602
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: any feedback from her friends and family as to what

603
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: kind of rings she wanted? Yeah? So, Um, here's a

604
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: few things that people might not know about me. I

605
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: know nothing about rings. Um. I don't think that's a shot.

606
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: I know nothing. And so when I started to uh

607
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: plan the proposal, there are so many things that were

608
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: unexpected to me. Not unexpected, let me let me reiterate here.

609
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: Shocking to me? Right, I it is not a secret

610
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: that I have a history and a past on the show,

611
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: and everybody knows how that played out for me. Um,

612
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: But the idea of designing and picking out a ring

613
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: was something extra special, something that I wanted to do

614
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: to let Jessica know just how um important she is

615
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: and uh at that time, how important she was gonna

616
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: be to me when I proposed. And so I started

617
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: to customize make this ring, and I asked her mom

618
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: and my mom for input because here's the other side

619
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: of it. I believe that is important to allow the

620
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: people closest to your life to be involved in some

621
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: of your life's biggest moments, um and it just makes

622
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: them a little bit more special. And so I had

623
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: started a text chain with her mom and my mom, uh,

624
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of going through some ring designs. Her mom had

625
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: sent us h Jessica's perfect ring, which was just big

626
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: old diamond with two things on the side. I think

627
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: it's called like a moon or something. I don't know that,

628
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: with a pinterest with I think it was from Instagram. Okay, yeah,

629
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: it was like a screensheft from Instagram. And so I

630
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: went in, I brought this to the jeweler. I told

631
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: him my budget. I said, hey, let's make this as

632
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: beautiful as we can, uh within the means that I

633
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: can do this, and we started designing. He started mocking

634
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: this up. It's a jeweler out of Denver called Not

635
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: Jeweller's g n A t Uh. He's a good friend

636
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: of mine, uh and so we were back and forth

637
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: for a while. And then every time i'd have a

638
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: mock up that would be like a computerized picture of

639
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: the ring, I'd send it to my group chat uh

640
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: my mom and her mom would give me feedback, and

641
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: then we'd go back to my buddy Roz at Not

642
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: Jewelers and he would kind of tweak it to how

643
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: we wanted it. At the end of it all, um,

644
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: there was I'd say there's about four or five iterations

645
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Speaker 1: of the ring. The ring that Jessica is wearing now

646
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: is one that I like, I love, and I don't

647
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: love rings, like it's not like a thing that I

648
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: get that into. But I love this ring. She loves

649
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: this ring, and it's a little different than the ring

650
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: that was her ideal ring, but I think it was

651
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: just different enough to make it feel like her own.

652
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: And for that, I'm I'm super grateful. It's so so pretty,

653
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: it looks so perfect on her finger. She's just so

654
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: feminine and beautiful. She's she is the cutest she is.

655
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I uh, it's funny. I wish I wish

656
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: the world would know Jessica better, because Jessica is just

657
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: this like little bubbly, funny, goofy joyful light to this world.

658
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: And everything that she does is done with so much love,

659
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: and all she asks in return is that the world

660
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: loves her back. And when the world world loves her back,

661
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: she shines. And it's funny because like as she's driving

662
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: her car now, or is she is washing dishes or uh,

663
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: what was it yesterday? She was like, uh typing on

664
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: her computer. There's moments I look over and I see

665
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: her and she's just like looking at her ring, which

666
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: is dangerous and distracting as well as just really beautiful

667
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: because I can just see the uh I don't know.

668
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: Maybe the best word I can say for right now

669
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: is like the comfort that that ring is providing to her,

670
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: knowing that she has loved, that she is safe, that

671
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: her heart will never be broken. Uh. Ever, again, she's

672
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: just pure, you know, She's just so sweet and pure.

673
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: She is just light. I remember, like early on in

674
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: this podcast, we would describe like what kind of woman

675
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: we were trying to find for Ben, And I don't

676
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: even think I could describe somebody so perfect for you

677
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: as Jess, Like there is just no question that she

678
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: is the perfect person for you. She is. Uh yeah,

679
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: you're right, And I mean she's the perfect person for

680
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: me because she makes me a better man, a bet

681
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: her husband, or she will make me a better husband,

682
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: a better son, a better friend. Like she wants me

683
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: to be an extremely intentional friend to others. She wants

684
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: me to be a loving, caring, supportive son to my parents. Uh,

685
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: she wants to be uh for me to be a

686
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: husband or at least right now, a fiancee um that

687
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: is passionately exploring my interest, and she wants to support

688
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: me in that because she also wants to push me

689
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: to love her. Well, um, but you said it. I

690
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: think maybe like she is pure um because she's worked

691
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: hard to be pure, and she's worked hard to stay

692
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: um as a loving, giggly light to those around her,

693
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: and she does it. Well, maybe I didn't even think

694
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: about describing a girl exactly like Jess because I've never

695
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: met somebody exactly like Jazz. Yeah, so that's probably why

696
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: the best. And look what Instagram did. Isn't just absolutely

697
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: unbelievable that you just, um, you know, you d M

698
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: her and she became your future wife. And what's funny

699
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: about that is, if I like to think about fate

700
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: and like all the chains of a fact that like

701
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: went into her responding to your message, and if you

702
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: weren't the bachelor, there's probably a good chance that she

703
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't have responded to your message or even well, I mean,

704
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: if you remember right. I mean, I can't remember the

705
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: exact episode, but when Jessica and I announced our relationship,

706
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: it was this podcast that I had kind of talked

707
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: about it for the first time on and it was

708
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: right when we got back from Honduras, and uh, you know,

709
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: the story was that I d M there on Instagram. Uh.

710
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: And she responded because of the blue checkmark, not because

711
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: oh she's looking for anything more than like the blue

712
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: checkmark to her meant, oh, this isn't like a like

713
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: she just even looked at it because she's like, oh,

714
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: this guy isn't just like super creepy I could have been,

715
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: and you know, and and she sent it to her brother,

716
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: who then helped her respond to me. Initially because Jessica

717
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: was so like thrown off by it. So yes, uh,

718
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: social media has been really good to me. Um and

719
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: and and for me. I mean this, that little message,

720
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: that little step of step of you know, risk, uh

721
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: has led me now to just be the happiest man.

722
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: What I believe is a lot five. And I would

723
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: tell anybody out there, if you're looking right now at

724
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: this time of distancing and you're still wanting to date, Um,

725
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: no better time to throw a couple of d ms

726
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: some people's you know what I've been doing with Nas

727
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: the past couple of days, Uh, tell us about it.

728
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: So future future, So former Bachelor producer Nas Perez, who

729
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: also happens to be my co host, and I don't

730
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: get it, and my best friend in real life. She

731
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: is thirty, she's single, she's never had a real boyfriend.

732
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: So I've made this sort of like Love is Blind

733
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: Meat Bachelor esque digital dating show for her. So I

734
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: set her up on three blind dates, fifteen minute phone calls,

735
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: three consecutive days, different guys. Um. So she met three

736
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: guys this week and she, uh, they're all really good.

737
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: They also really awesome conversationalist. Nothing was awkward. Um, they

738
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: know what she looks like, and she does not know

739
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: what they look like, and she will not know what

740
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: they look like until she chooses one person to go

741
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: on a date on in real life after quarantine is over.

742
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: So she's gonna end up meeting it's probably nine guys

743
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: throughout this process, and each week, at the end of

744
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: three days, she's going to pick her favorite guy, and

745
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: then the favorite in guys each week will go and

746
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: like compete in a finals round where she has additional

747
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: phone calls with them where they're all broadcasted. They're live

748
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: streamed on my Instagram story. We're doing it pretty much

749
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: consistently at ten pm Eastern, so you get to watch

750
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: Naz's fifteen minute phone call with a stranger who my

751
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: sister and I have vetted and in the end, who

752
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: knows what may happen. We're getting some good catches in

753
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: for her. So if I want to watch this, I

754
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: just have to go on your Instagram and like it's

755
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: just your Instagram, your personal Instagram, and it will be

756
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: on there that I can like even watch after the fact. Yea,

757
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: so it's on my Instagram live. You can like participate

758
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: in the conversation. At ten in Eastern times seven Pacific

759
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: and then um, we're doing it Friday through Monday, and

760
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: then you can watch. If you can't watch it live,

761
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: you can go to my my YouTube Jared and my

762
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: YouTube it's Ashley I Jared h and you can watch

763
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: the episodes after they're done being live there. Oh that's awesome.

764
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: I can't I really want to watch that. I know

765
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: nas and she's great, but hey, ash I know it's

766
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: about time for us to move on the way from

767
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: the thirty minutes of my engagement, but I want to

768
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: just as usual, I feel more comfortable. I think, UM

769
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: kind of closing that little conversation, we'll talk about it,

770
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure many more times, uh in the future. But

771
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: I always like to just kind of give a like

772
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: my own little monologue on like UM to to anybody

773
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: out there listening. I love your monologues. Go for it. Yeah, well,

774
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean it means a lot, because, uh, a couple

775
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: of months ago, I shared on this podcast that even

776
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: dating was hard for me because I had gotten um,

777
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: really consumed with the idea of being single and kind

778
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: of the uh, the attention I could get from being single,

779
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: and and the how my career had kind of existed

780
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: because I was single, and to announce my relationship with

781
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: jess was a big deal to me because I knew

782
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: it was going to be taking a drastic change in

783
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: my life. And uh, you know, for five years of

784
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: my life, I've been known as a bachelor, and that

785
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: is no longer the case. Um And for the whole

786
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: time on this podcast, I've been known as a bachelor,

787
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: and that is no longer who I am by definition. Uh.

788
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: And I just want to take a second and say, um, one,

789
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: I have met and and in love with the most beautiful,

790
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: uh person I have ever met. I am so thankful

791
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: for Jessica, and I'm so thankful that she loves my family,

792
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: she loves me, she loves her family, she loves my friends,

793
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: and she loves the things I do, including this podcast.

794
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: Oh well, a little side note before from before I

795
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: continue is for my birthday, which was a week ago. Um,

796
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: my gift from Jessica was a new podcasting set so

797
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: I could bring better quality podcast equipment to each of

798
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: you every week. She did that because she just knows

799
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: how much this podcast means to me. Um. So she

800
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: that was her birthday gift to me. And so I'm

801
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: just saying that to say, hey, she she supports me well,

802
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: and she supports this podcast well and the things that

803
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing so well. So first off, UM, thank you

804
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: to Jessica. The second thing is thank you to the

805
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: Almost Famous family. Um, people have been incredibly supportive, insanely kind.

806
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: Not that you wouldn't be. You would be a terrible

807
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: human to not support this. I would be. I would

808
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: be super confused if somebody was not in favor of

809
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: what's happening between Jesse and I. But just your words

810
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: of encouragement to Jessica and myself, including from you Ashley

811
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: and the rest of Bachelor Nation and all of you

812
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: Almost Famous listeners, and from my heart, thank you. Uh.

813
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: It is a wild, wild world. I've said it once before,

814
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: and I'll close with this. All I've could have ever

815
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: prayed for and asked for in my life was to

816
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: feel supported, To feel like I was a part of

817
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: a community, to feel like I was involved, to feel

818
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: like I was accepted in, to feel like I had

819
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: a seat at the table amongst others. And uh, big

820
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: moments like this in my life and I hope the

821
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: same for you listeners out there. Big moments have made

822
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: me feel those things and more, and a lot of

823
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: it is because of who you guys are and how

824
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: and what you're the words you say and what they

825
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: how they resonate with me. So thank you for listening along,

826
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: thank you for giving me credibility after speaking on a

827
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: podcast to you now for three years, and thank you

828
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: for celebrating us. Uh. It means the world to Jessica

829
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: and I. UM so just simply thank you on behalf

830
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: of us for celebrating our love. We love you, Ben all. Right,

831
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: after this, we're going to talk patch or hot topics

832
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: for now. Here's a word from our sponsor. Hey, almost

833
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: famous listeners, welcome back. UM. We just got done talking

834
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: about my engagement and UM, that was special for me.

835
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: But it is time uh to get back to our

836
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: regular scheduled programming and talk about some Bachelor trending topics

837
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: and once again, Bachelor Nation. You have have not disappointed us.

838
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: You continue to throw topics are off season and even

839
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: during UH self isolation. So I'm gonna start with this one, actuley,

840
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: tell us what you know about it? Um On a

841
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: On a press conference this last week, President Trump compared

842
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: his news conferences his updates on the COVID nineteen virus

843
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: with the Bachelor finale. Uh, I can s are some

844
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: thoughts too, because I know I'm you know, politics and

845
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: I have have had close relationships. But I want to

846
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: hear what you thought when you heard that the President

847
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: United States during a pandemic compared his news conferences to

848
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: the Bachelor finale. I mean, it's pretty weird, and I

849
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: can I keep it at that, and then it's pretty

850
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: bizarre that he's thinking about his brain eggs. It's well,

851
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: it's bizarre for so many reasons. One, I think Chris

852
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: Harrison said it best. What a time we live in

853
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: where I can be watching, uh, these news conferences and

854
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the show that I still talk

855
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: about that I am hosting a live tour of that

856
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm very actively involved in that I participated in as

857
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: long as well as you is then being brought out

858
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: of the mouth of the president. I remember when President

859
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: Obama brought up The Bachelor during UM I think it

860
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: was some breakfast like uh, the State Breakfast or something,

861
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: and uh, the clip came out and I was just

862
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: like in awe that the President United States was bringing

863
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: up the Bachelor. Well, it's happening again either way, it's

864
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of I don't know, never mind

865
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: past it's just wild. I mean, it just as wild. Actually,

866
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. But here's the truth of

867
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: it all. Besides, because there's gonna be people out there

868
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: that support the idea that we're talking about ratings. Uh,

869
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: there's gonna be people out there that don't support it.

870
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: It's politics. Uh, it will always be controversial at some level.

871
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: But here's the truth of it. No matter what side

872
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: you fall on, the Bachelor once again finds itself in

873
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: a place of getting another massive win because during during

874
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: a pandemic, it's still being talked about one. Isn't that

875
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: insane that that's how culturally impactful our show is. Well,

876
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: their show, the show that we have appeared on. Yeah,

877
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: and and rode the coat tails of now for yes.

878
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: Um uh. Next topic is Bachelor Peter Webber hangs out

879
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: with ex Kelly Flanagan after split from Madicine Pruitt. Actually,

880
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: I know you're fired up about this. I know that

881
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: you have a lot to say. I'm taking it over

882
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: to you. I can't get over it. I think this

883
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: was this came out two or three days after our

884
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: last podcast, and of course the first thing I do

885
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: I see it. I screenshot the TMZ article. I send

886
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: it to our podcast group with Ben and the producers,

887
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: and it's just like, this season is never going to stop.

888
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: But thank you Peter, and thank you to his girls

889
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: too that allow us to have some fresh, juicy content

890
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: to talk about every single week. I was honestly flabbergasted.

891
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way that must be like

892
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: a gal pal um, a cousin, I don't know, somebody

893
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: he has a fun relationship with. You threw over his shoulder.

894
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: I was like, can we really make out Kelly's face?

895
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: And then I was like Chicago. I was like, holy Chicago, Um,

896
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: that's where Kelly's from. And then there were a couple

897
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: other pictures just kind of infirms that this was Kelly,

898
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: that Peter was hanging out with. Um, you know, my

899
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: husband just really really not keen on the fact that

900
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: they were in such a public location. It seems like

901
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people were thinking, oh, let's go take

902
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: a walk in Chicago, um by the water, because there's

903
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: this one photograph where they're like where there's so many

904
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,959
Speaker 1: people walking it looks like like a charity walk. There's

905
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: a ton of people out there. But I mean that's

906
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: not you know, I don't know that that was I

907
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: don't think that was intentional. They probably thought like, oh,

908
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: let's take a walk, and then they're just happened to

909
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: be a ton of people there. So it wasn't exactly

910
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: great for social distancing. But that's one that's that's another

911
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: issue to discuss them some other time. Um. So this

912
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: is the wild part though, Actuley is uh two comments here.

913
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: One is, uh, Hannah ann has been uh came out

914
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: and talked about this and how she's not shocked, and

915
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: and then the other part of this the whole story

916
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: so other I guess what we're saying is other contestants

917
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: from Peter season is now are what now weighing in,

918
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: including uh, the woman Hannah and that he ended up

919
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: with at the end, who we've kind of, in my eyes,

920
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: like kind of forgotten that he actually ended up with

921
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: somebody because it was such a weird quick transition. Well

922
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: it was because yeah, that was because they were trying

923
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: to make it seem like he ended up with Madison,

924
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: but apparently he absolutely did not end up with Madison.

925
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: If two weeks ago on that show, which holy Molly,

926
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: wait it was two weeks ago. No, no, okay, so

927
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: it's three weeks ago that the finale happened. Three weeks

928
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: ago he was, you know, sitting next to Madison, and

929
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: then you fast forward two and a half weeks and

930
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: he's in Chicago picking up Kelly. Don't you think that

931
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: they were talking during that finale? Like, do you think

932
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: that this like really rammed up that fast? And two

933
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: and a half weeks he decided to in what was

934
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be quarantine, he goes and flies over to

935
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: Chicago to spend time with another girl, a girl that

936
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: was sitting in the audience of his after the final rows,

937
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: which is now super bizarre. And I don't I thought

938
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: it was them saying sorry Kelly for not inviting you

939
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: two women tell all? But now was it supposed to

940
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: be some sort of foreshadowing of what was to come? Oh,

941
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: I've never Let's pause there, Ashley. That is an incredible thought.

942
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: Is because she wasn't a women till all, and that

943
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: became a big deal and the rumor was spiring spinning

944
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: around that you know, producers didn't like Kelly, that what

945
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: theyn't want her involved, and then she gets invited to

946
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: Final Rows, which made us all go, oh, they'd like her,

947
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: they wanted her involved, but they had a different plan

948
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: for her. Do you think she was there because they

949
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: knew this was happening and they thought maybe it could

950
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: And I don't know, this is all just like us

951
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: kind of spitballing. But what if Barbed by talking as

952
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: much as she did kind of took away from the

953
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: their plans, which was to present Kelly as somebody that

954
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: that Peter was still kind of talking to. I guess

955
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: that could be. It seemed like the show wanted it

956
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: to be Madison though, because one Chris Harrison went to

957
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: um Alabama to be like, so uh, Peter single. So

958
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: it was like it seems like Peter didn't have his

959
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: hands in any of it, Like maybe he didn't want

960
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: to go back to Madison. Maybe that was never his intention,

961
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: but the show was like, we're going to make him

962
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: go back to Madison or like they assumed that he

963
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: would have wanted Madison if he didn't want Hannah, and

964
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: but apparently he wanted Kelly well, and Peter was so

965
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, though he was very defensive of Madison

966
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: during the finale, especially to his mom. Wasn't am I

967
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: remembering this right? And we can move on after this?

968
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: But am I remembering this right? Where there was a

969
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: rumor that bar Peter's mom had came up to Kelly

970
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: after the finale and spoken some words into her ear

971
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: like hey, you were always my favorite it or hey

972
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: I've always loved you, or hey we should go out

973
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: shopping sometimes. Like, wasn't that a rumor going around? It

974
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: wasn't a rumor. We all got to see it. So

975
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: it's the three weeks ago today that Barb wrote that

976
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: under her Instagram. One of them wrote under each other's

977
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: instagrams is saying like I'd love to get lunch and

978
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: shops soon. So they were obviously talking back then. Oh

979
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: my god, because Kelly was the only one Peter and

980
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: Peter's family was falling on Instagram come the finale, so

981
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: there was something they were at least d m NG.

982
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: This is so weird. Team Almost Famous listeners, all of

983
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: you little sleuthors out there, we need some info. Email

984
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: us at Been and n Ashley at I Heard Media

985
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: dot Com, or hashtag us at the Almost Famous podcast

986
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: on Twitter. What do you know about this? This is wild.

987
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: Here's the funny part before we move on to the

988
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: next topic. Is Peter Season. For the most part, we thought,

989
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: uh that we're not really involved, we don't really get it.

990
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: The carre your development isn't awesome, and we don't see

991
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: any real relationships being formed. It has been the finale

992
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: and anything happening since the finale that's made us talk

993
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: about Peter Season more than we ever talked about it

994
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: during the season in general, like Peter and his girls

995
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: are still actively involved in this world and we are

996
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: still talking about him. And who we're definitely talking about

997
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: often right now is Tyler Camberon. Oh wait, I'm sorry,

998
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: I have to say one more thing. How weird is

999
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: it that Kelly was the one he knew before the

1000
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: show and now he's just back with her And it's like,

1001
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: do they even need the show? Of course they need

1002
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: to show Ashley because now we're involved. And he was

1003
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: saying three weeks ago that he loved Madison. He was like, mom,

1004
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: this is the woman I love. And now not even

1005
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: three weeks later, he's got another girl on his shoulder.

1006
00:53:54,520 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: Freaking weird guys, Uh yeah, yeah, Tyler, Yeah. Tyler Cameron

1007
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: plays Coy when asked if he's dating Hannah Brown, do

1008
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: you think any of this is weird? What is? Are

1009
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: they still together? I mean, they've been together since the

1010
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: beginning of this, uh isolation period, and they're in Tyler

1011
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: it seems like hometown. Uh they haven't. I don't know

1012
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: if they've separated or not, but according to what it

1013
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: sounds like like they're very much hanging out. You guys

1014
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: think that when she went to fly down to quarantine

1015
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: with him, she thought it was going to be possibly

1016
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: until April thirty at the least. Like I said last week,

1017
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're given their relationship a chance. You

1018
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: know in a way that they will come out of

1019
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: this knowing whether they can pretty much be together forever

1020
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: or whether or not they will never work like you're

1021
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: gonna know, you're gonna have an answer. So possibly it's

1022
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: a great time. But as far as this tease that

1023
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: Tyler is giving us, he um calls one of his friends,

1024
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: Brown Bear, and so he jokes that me and brown

1025
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: Bear are dating. Yes, I can confirm, while he smiles

1026
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 1: and nods, And I don't think that's a confirmation whatsoever.

1027
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: I think that's Tyler playing along and being like, yeah,

1028
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: this is me fan, we're dating ham are so funny. Um,

1029
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: But really, I think I think that Hannah and Tyler

1030
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: are certainly hooking up during this quarantine. I would say

1031
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: that they are uh committed in quarantine. There's six people

1032
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: in that house, and I can't imagine they're hooking up

1033
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: with anyone else. So here. Actually, I feel like I

1034
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: just made a comment a few weeks ago that I

1035
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: felt like we were talking about Tyler dating somebody else,

1036
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: And again we we prefaces with saying he's a single

1037
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: uh man, so there is no shame or judgment. But

1038
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: I feel like just a few weeks ago, I was

1039
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: talking about him dating like some other like celebrity, or like,

1040
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: yeah it was Kylie's best friend. That's not a thing anymore.

1041
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: Now we're on a Hannah brows So so far, I've

1042
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: had too in the last year of my life dissect

1043
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: three different relationships of Tyler Cameron's. At some point, at

1044
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: some point, I will not be talking about who Tyler

1045
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: Cameron is dating. Instead, we'll be talking about Madison Pruett,

1046
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: who denied dating Connor Saley, who was the Bachelor for

1047
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. I'm on stage in Los Angeles. He picked

1048
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: a terrific girl. I thought maybe they were going to

1049
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: date that obviously didn't work out, and instead there was

1050
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: a rumor flying that him and Madison were dating. But

1051
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: she's saying that's not true. Do you think it was

1052
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: ever something that was happening. She's saying, I'm just focusing

1053
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: on myself. She says that whatever exchange that she and

1054
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: and Connor had has been platonic. Um, my guess is

1055
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: that it's just been over the phone. DM text me

1056
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: a phone call here there. I don't know that they've

1057
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: seen each other in real life. I think she probably

1058
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: thinks he's cute. Um, probably has a way to easily

1059
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: contact him, obviously, Like if you're in The Bachelor, Emily,

1060
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: you can basically call up any person you think is

1061
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: cute very easily. I don't think that they are in

1062
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: any way dating, but they're probably pre Bachelor in Paradise talking.

1063
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I mean, it makes sense. It's a good

1064
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: looking couple. They no harm, just like there's no harm

1065
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: in Tyler and Hannah being back together. Um, if they are,

1066
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: but a little bit shocking, it wouldn't have been the

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00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: two people I would put together. But yeah, so far

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00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: all we know is that Madison is denying dating Connor.

1069
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: A few final topics here that we gotta throughout there.

1070
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: One is uh Luke Parker's birthday message for Madison Pruit.

1071
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: The headline is is raising eyebrows for among Bachelor fans.

1072
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: So once again, Luke Parker is raising eyebrowns with confusion

1073
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: to Bachelor fans. Obviously, there are two people that are

1074
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: saving themselves until marriage to have sex, and people are like,

1075
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: you'd be a great cup full, and then some people

1076
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: are like, don't you even don't even think about it? Luke. Um,

1077
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 1: you know, Luke is horrible, horrible, totally different person. It's

1078
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: basically this is just fodder underneath an Instagram picture and

1079
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: people are freaking out that he said like happy birthday girl.

1080
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, guys, let we don't have to freak

1081
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 1: out over anything. That doesn't mean anything. I'm sure Luke

1082
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: was a fan of Madison during the season, but I

1083
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: don't think this means that he's trying to get with

1084
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: her or vice versa. No, I'd agree, I would agree. Hey,

1085
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 1: just a quick note, Ashley and I obviously are doing

1086
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: this from our home, so if you hear some bogs,

1087
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,959
Speaker 1: dogs barking, or cars pulling up personally, Oh is the doggie? Yeah,

1088
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: that's yeah, Yeah, it's it's just our homes. This is

1089
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: very similar. I saw it today, Uh that Kelly and

1090
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: Ryan are doing their television show from home. Good Morning

1091
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: America's do have him home. We're all making the most

1092
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: of this. Uh, we're doing this from our home. So

1093
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: if you hear some background noise or some life noises

1094
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: going on, that's why. Ashley final topic, UM, that I

1095
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: want to discuss, and and it's one that we're gonna

1096
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: kind of. It's a tough topic and I wanted to

1097
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: save it to the end because it's one A lot

1098
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: of these, you know, make us laugh, and they make

1099
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: us intrigued and they keep us going. Um, but this

1100
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: topic is one that sits heavy on my heart. UM,

1101
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: since I've heard about it. The Bachelor's Michelle Money reveals

1102
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: daughter A fifty that's fifteen years old, is in I

1103
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: See You on life support after a skateboarding accident. She's

1104
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: hit her head, is experiencing brain trauma and is currently

1105
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: last update we heard, uh is in medically induced coma

1106
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: to relieve the pressure from her brain. Yeah. I woke

1107
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: up and this is the first thing I saw, and

1108
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, just hand on my heart, jaw dropped. I'm

1109
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: I just feel absolutely horrible. Just pray, pray, pray for them. Please,

1110
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: UM send all your love and positive vibes their way.

1111
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: I just I love Michelle. She's such a one her

1112
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: ful mom and the relationship she's had with Brielle was

1113
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: so obvious on the show, like they were just best rooms.

1114
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: They're like the Gilm Girls, you know, they are the

1115
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: Gilm Girls. And I really hope that Brielle can pull

1116
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: out of this fast. Um. Just thinking of them out

1117
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: all day, all week until we hear good news. Yeah. Um, So,

1118
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: bachel Nation, if you can, or almost famous fans, if

1119
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: you can do us a favor, do Michelle Money a favor. UM,

1120
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: reach out and show her some love and support right now.

1121
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: The kind messages that you sent me after my engagement

1122
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: should be being sent over with the same with with

1123
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: the same type of heart that you guys shared with me,

1124
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: and and the loving, supportive heart that you shared with me.

1125
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: Go ahead and do that for Michelle Money. Go ahead

1126
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: and send her a message of some kind. I know

1127
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: from personal experience that your words do matter, So go

1128
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: over love on her. We will be uh praying, we

1129
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: will be hoping, we will be wished, we will be

1130
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: following along with that story. It is a tough one.

1131
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: But here is the takeaway and uh, Michelle Money has

1132
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: came out and said it well. She wants people to

1133
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: know right now is to wear a helmet no matter

1134
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: if you feel uh like this is something you're super

1135
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: good at, if you feel like this is just a

1136
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: quick little trip on a bike or a skateboard or whatever,

1137
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: where a helmet um, Because Hey, you're you all are

1138
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: very precious and we need you safe and we need

1139
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: you secure. Ashley. Let's take a break. When we come back,

1140
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna read some reader emails, call one of our

1141
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: almost famous fans, and we're going to close out this podcast,

1142
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: uh with a nice little segment about what things you're

1143
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: doing Ashley in this last week to keep yourself occupied

1144
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: during self ice elation. Hey, we're back taking reader emails.

1145
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: We have one right here that we want to read.

1146
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: And then we want to call this fan of ours

1147
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: because she's a part of the almost Famous family and

1148
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: she sent us a very very vulnerable email and I'm

1149
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna read it here It's titled Feeling Alone, and it's

1150
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: from Anna. She says, I have been alone during this quarantine,

1151
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to thank you both for reminding

1152
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: your listeners to reach out for help if you need it.

1153
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: I was in a great place before this happened, and

1154
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: I suppose I still am. I have a great new

1155
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: accounting job, a house, and two sibling kittens, which I

1156
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: am so grateful for. I'm able to work from home

1157
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: and still get paid, but I don't know my job

1158
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: well enough to feel productive. This makes me feel guilty,

1159
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: but I am trying. It doesn't help my depression being

1160
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: at home. I thought I had it under control, but

1161
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: losing my routine has hurt I. Misme elderly parents. I

1162
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: do shower, et cetera every morning, but not talking to

1163
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: people in person has set me back. Please keep up

1164
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: your great work and maybe take calls from people alone

1165
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: like myself. Ashley. Let's do it. Anna. Hey, Hey, this

1166
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: is Ashley. I Ken Eddie. I know. Oh, it's so

1167
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: good to hear from you. Ben is also on the phone. Hey, Anna,

1168
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm good? How real well? We're doing well.

1169
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: We're both here in separate places, just like we know

1170
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: your are we just read your email to everybody out

1171
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: there listening. Um, you know, here's one thing I want

1172
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: to start this conversation with you off about Anna is

1173
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: thank you for sending the email, thank you for being vulnerable.

1174
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: I think what you expressed is how a lot of

1175
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: people are feeling right now. Uh. To start, how are

1176
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: you doing uh personally? And then also in the same breath,

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01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: is there anything you've learned after writing this email that

1178
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: would help others out there listening. Um, you know I'm

1179
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: gonna be lying if I said I was doing okay. Um,

1180
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: you know it's doing great before all this started. But

1181
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: excuse me. Before that, you know, in October, I had

1182
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: lost my job and then I lost my cat, and

1183
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: so I want to stay with my parents for a

1184
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: couple of months. And then I got a great in

1185
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: a job, fabulous job, never made more money, um, still

1186
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: getting paid. So I'm very fortunate for that. But um,

1187
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, three weeks into my job, I am now

1188
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: at home and by myself and hesitant to visit my parents. So, um,

1189
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm afraid to expose them to anything

1190
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: if I've been exposed, So it's just depressing. I'm trying

1191
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: to work, but I don't know my job very well

1192
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: and it's just hard, you know. So what I've learned

1193
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: is it's important to communicate over the phone with people

1194
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: or email and that kind of thing. I mean that

1195
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: that kind of says it all. I guess the anna

1196
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: one thing that ash and I were just book speaking

1197
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: about a little bit ago was, um, how much this

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01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: has changed a lot of our lives. And Ashley, I

1199
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: was just about to ask you, but what is it

1200
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: like three things actually that you've been doing there in

1201
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: the self isolation that's helped you stay connected and feel

1202
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: less alone. Well, I feel like Jared and I keep

1203
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: talking about the walks that we've been taking. We've just

1204
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: been taking the dogs on long walks and it's kind

1205
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: of therapeutic. And I like feeling, you know, my blood circulate,

1206
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: feels good to move a little bit. And I I've

1207
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: been cooking a little bit. I made the most amazing

1208
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: macaroni and cheese the other day. It was cracker barrel

1209
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: macaroni and cheese. Guys, you gotta get that box. It's

1210
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: better than any other other one out there. And then

1211
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: I mixed it with broccoli with was just covered in

1212
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: garlic and breadcrumbs. You should just try it. It's super easy.

1213
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: And then I watched a great movie. Oh yes, I

1214
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: put that on my story. Yeah. Um. And then I

1215
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: watched a great movie last night that I haven't seen

1216
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: in like, I don't know, over ten years, for sure,

1217
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: over ten years Spanglish, you know, with with Adam Sandler.

1218
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: So good. So I recommend that to anyone who hasn't

1219
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: watched it or hasn't watched it for a while. You know,

1220
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: there's a few takeaways the exercise, um, the trying new things,

1221
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: the slowing down a bit. But Anna, I want to

1222
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: throw it back to you for a bit because, as

1223
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: you said, you have felt um depressed, um, and you

1224
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: felt alone during this time. Have you found any ways

1225
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: to find community um within this kind of ice isolating,

1226
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: forced isolating experience. Um. You know, I have walked quite

1227
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: a bit, like on my lunch break because I am

1228
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: still trying to work at home, so I'm kind of

1229
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: stuck to my computer. But um, so I have walked

1230
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: that I've met a few neighbors. You know, I've lived

1231
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: in my house for five years now. I bought a

1232
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: house five years ago, so I have met new neighbors

1233
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: that I haven't met before, So that's been great. Um.

1234
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: Other than that, you know, like, I'm I'm afraid to

1235
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: go anywhere. To be honest with you, I can't believe

1236
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: you all are talking to me right now. You shouldn't

1237
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: go anywhere else. Um, let's brainstore some things. What would

1238
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: make you happy that you can do from home? Do? What?

1239
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: What do you think that there's something that you could

1240
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: do from home that you haven't been able to do? Like,

1241
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: is there any like kind of material that you need?

1242
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: Do you need any like? Uh, cookie dough? Um? Is

1243
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: there a game fee? Do you need coffee? Yeah? Like

1244
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: is there a game we can send you? I don't know.

1245
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: I want to make you happy. Yeah. I am blessed

1246
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: in so many ways. I don't want to make it

1247
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: seem like I'm just that well. I am kind of

1248
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: depressed right now, but I am blessed. Like I have

1249
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: a paycheck coming in, I have my parents, Um, I

1250
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: have great coworkers. I just still feel so well. Um.

1251
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: You know the thing is in a is uh what

1252
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: you're what we're hearing from you right now when I

1253
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: just said it, and I mean it is uh your

1254
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: voice is mattering to so many that are listening to

1255
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: this because they're hearing you, and they're hearing what you're saying,

1256
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: and they're going, I'm right there with you. This is

1257
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: this is the thing that gets overlooked, uh, during the

1258
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen UM pandemic, is that there are you know,

1259
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, Anna, that you are blessed, you

1260
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: still are getting paid, yet you still feel alone, and

1261
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: there's people out there that have lost their jobs, that

1262
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: have lost all sense of purpose. And we're all going

1263
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:33,839
Speaker 1: at some level, what is happening right I your voice

1264
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: and your emotion is is connecting to people right now

1265
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: who are listening, going I'm right there with you. Um.

1266
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: But here's the hardest truth of it all is there's

1267
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: not an easy answer. It's not like right now we

1268
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: can snap our fingers and say let's get back together.

1269
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: We don't know when it's gonna end. But and I

1270
01:09:55,200 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: wonder this, I wonder this has this feeling and tell

1271
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: me if I'm I'm completely off base here, but has

1272
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 1: this feeling of isolation and feeling depressed and being depressed

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01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: and feeling alone. When you finally get the word from

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01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: whoever it's going to be that says go back out

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01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: into this world. What are the things that you're going

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01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: to be most grateful for? Um, hugs, a conversation, Congratulations

1277
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: by the way, thank you see Anna in the midst

1278
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: of tears, in the midst of how so many of

1279
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: us are feeling, you have it in your heart to

1280
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: say congratulations, and for that, I thank you. Um. How

1281
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: about this, We're I'm gonna send you some coffee from

1282
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: Generous Coffee. I'm gonna load you up with some coffee. Yeah,

1283
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna get it. We're gonna send some treats over

1284
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: to your house for sure, But gifts won't fix the disconnect.

1285
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: And so when we get back into this world, I

1286
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: want to hear from you. Please write us another email,

1287
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: uh and just tell us how it feels to get

1288
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: a hug again. And then do me one favor. Uh when, if,

1289
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: when and if you ever get to meet Ashley and I, UM,

1290
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: I would like a big hug us feel very nice

1291
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: absolutely uh me like I can't believe that'll just called? Well,

1292
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: will you do us this favor? Too? Is Ashley and

1293
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: I we we love getting listens on this podcast, and

1294
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna be looking for that one extra listen

1295
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: from you to listen to this interview back. Uh. And

1296
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: then also, uh, we're gonna have a lot of you

1297
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: out there who listened to this interview. So please email

1298
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: us at Ben and Ashley I heeart media dot com,

1299
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: hashtag gusaid at the Almost Famous podcast on Twitter. Let

1300
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 1: us know how you're feeling, let us know if you

1301
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: need help, let us know, uh if you are hurting. Uh,

1302
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: here's the truth at all. Uh. This podcast is fun. Uh,

1303
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: it's enjoyable, it's entertaining. Um, but all of us are

1304
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: hurting in our own ways. UM, and we don't want

1305
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: to do this alone either. So Anna, thank you for

1306
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. Thank you for being vulnerable, thank

1307
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: you for being honest. Uh. We will we appreciate you.

1308
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: We will be sending you coffee. But just thanks for listening.

1309
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Anna. My heart goes out to

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01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: you right now. I'm giving you a virtual hug. You

1311
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: seems so soulful. I just big hug, all right, sending

1312
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: all our love by all right. Right from one story

1313
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: there with Anna, who I do think speaks for all

1314
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: of us. I think she speaks for every person that's

1315
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: listening and participating, no matter or uh what level of

1316
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: privilege you come from, or what level of confusion you're at,

1317
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: or what you know tangible disconnect. You have the Anna's

1318
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 1: simple sentiment and her heart is telling the story of

1319
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: what a lot of Americans are feeling right now. And

1320
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: so again, I just want to reiterate, if you're hurting,

1321
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: if there's pain, if there's disconnecting your life, please email

1322
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: us and reach out to others for help. People want

1323
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: to help, people want to love you. Well. Uh. From

1324
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: a story of Anna who speaks on behalf of all

1325
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: of us and how we're feeling right now, to another

1326
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 1: story of celebration. We have one of my favorite people

1327
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:40,799
Speaker 1: in the world, Tiny on the line to help explain

1328
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: to us some big news that she's recently announced. Oh

1329
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: my goodness, we talked to you like three or four

1330
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and now you're back to tell us. So

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01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: you're pregnant. Yes I am, and oh my gosh. Actually

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: you were like anything, what's new or house life? And

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01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 1: when you were talking to me, and I was almost

1334
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,560
Speaker 1: about to say something, and I'm all, no, like I

1335
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: had an awkward pose. So that was the secret I

1336
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: was holding back. But first of all, congratulations to ben

1337
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: no jeez, Tiley, I knew you would. I knew you would.

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01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: Somehow davidte this conversation to congratulating me in the midst

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01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: of like one of the coolest, biggest announcements of your life.

1340
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: You've been wanted to be a mother for a while,

1341
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be a great mother. What was the

1342
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: feeling like when you heard that you are pregnant? We

1343
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: were honestly shocked because it wasn't necessarily something we were

1344
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: working towards quite yet, So the shock was it was exciting.

1345
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: It was like hoo, kind of it took us a minute.

1346
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: We sat down, we found out together and we kind

1347
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: of sat down and just looked at each other and

1348
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: had just embraced this new, exciting journey that we're gonna

1349
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: It's something we wanted, but we're just like, whoa, Okay,

1350
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 1: now let's do this. I feel like I've been waiting.

1351
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: I really I haven't looking at all your instagrams for

1352
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: the past like six months, being like once the baby announcement,

1353
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's the baby announced, it's gonna because

1354
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 1: you're just so motherly and I know that it was

1355
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: something that you've always wanted. Yeah, thank you. I have

1356
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: been overwhelmed by everybody. Everybody's excitement for us, and they're

1357
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: encouraging words and support being like we've been waiting for this,

1358
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: like you just said, um because that just I don't know,

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01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: I feel like it's very encouraging to myself, Aunt Taylor,

1360
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: to just knowing that people believe in us for this

1361
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: role and that, Um so it's it's really exciting. Thank you.

1362
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: Oh you are going to be the most fantastic mother.

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01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: How is your pregnancy going so far? Do you mind

1364
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: telling us how far long you are? Yeah, I know,

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01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: I am. I'm almost sixteen weeks. I'm at the end

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01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: of the teen weeks. And it's um interesting in quarantine life.

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01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of works well for how I'm

1368
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: fealing because, um, I'm gonna be honest, the pregnancy, growing

1369
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: a human is definitely a badge of honor and a

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01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: beautiful thing, but it is hard. Um. So, it started

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01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,919
Speaker 1: out I felt pretty good. I feel I feel really grateful.

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01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: I never got too sick, but uh, fatigue and nauseousness

1373
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: was real for the first trimester kind of hit me

1374
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 1: a couple of different times. We actually found out just

1375
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: a few days before we were on our way to Europe.

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01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: And so in Europe, I like had a couple of

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01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: days that I did not feel good, but for the

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01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,560
Speaker 1: most part felt pretty good. And then, um, now I

1379
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: actually am experiencing some um some body pains your body

1380
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: just starts to move and shift on you and from

1381
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: some old damp accidents and stuff. I'm actually dealing with

1382
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 1: some extreme pain so which aren't allowing me to do

1383
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: some of my normal exercises. So that's a little bit hard,

1384
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 1: but it's a great sacrifice of course. Um so I

1385
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: can't like run or walk, um and if you know,

1386
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 1: you know that I love to be moving at all times.

1387
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 1: So it's just been an adjustment, but it's totally worth

1388
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: it and I'm doing all that I can to make

1389
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: sure that I'm I'm keeping this baby healthy, keeping myself healthy,

1390
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: and um, quarantine life is definitely an addition to all

1391
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: the blues and the moods and all that. So yeah,

1392
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, Timley that uh yeah, so I mean

1393
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 1: just uh, I think you just said it, but I

1394
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: think I missed it. How far along are you? So

1395
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm going on sixteen weeks, so for sixteen weeks and

1396
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: now you know, typically from what I know about pregnancy,

1397
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: which is very little. So if I say something and

1398
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: it's incredibly offensive and every single time out there just

1399
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 1: freaks out on me, I get it. I probably deserve it.

1400
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: But isn't a thing like within the like second and

1401
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: third time is like wouldn't you want to kind of

1402
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: be like nesting they call it, or like nestled in totally?

1403
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: So I think that, Um, I even felt that, like

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01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: from the moment that I found out, I was like,

1405
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I have to It's like instinctual, I think.

1406
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: And I could be so wrong too, I'm just speaking.

1407
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: Everybody's experience is so different. Um, but I feel like

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01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: from the moment I found out, all of a sudden,

1409
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 1: I was like, what can I shift in my life

1410
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: like to start preparing for this? And yeah, so there's

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01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: so right now. Um, I'd say there is a little

1412
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: bit of just there's extra time on our hands. We're

1413
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: not traveling like we have been planning to do and

1414
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: um because of this coronavirus situation and all that. But um,

1415
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: it has allowed me to kind of Okay, what's the

1416
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 1: next project? And then I do hear my sister just

1417
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: had her second baby. In those last couple of weeks

1418
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: and that last trimester. Um, you you get real stir

1419
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: crazy and the need to nest. So you're so right on,

1420
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: but um, I'm experiencing a little bit of it already.

1421
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: So man, well hey uh Tinley, Uh, we celebrate you here,

1422
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: I know everybody does. Um, congratulations to you and Taylor,

1423
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: and congratulations on on bringing life into this world. I

1424
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: know it's going to be fun for the world to

1425
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: watch this child grow up with the guidance of you

1426
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: and Taylor. So thanks for sharing with us. Thank you

1427
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: so much. Congratulations, so so happy for you. Thank you, Ashley,

1428
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: but prayers are appreciated. And congratulations to you Ben. That's

1429
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: an exciting season of life as well. So sad all up.

1430
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: And then Ashley, I can't wait for your announcement. Um

1431
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: but oh no, rush, but thank you. Maybe everybody is

1432
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: like Ashley, Jared, please have a quarantine baby. My mom

1433
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: was such a pain in the ass last week. She

1434
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: was like, I just don't know why you're waiting a

1435
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 1: few more months to start trying, Like why wouldn't you

1436
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: just do it now? I'm like, Mom, first off, we're

1437
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: in your house, so no, thanks, I do think yeah,

1438
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: it's it's worth waiting. But also of course, when the

1439
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: time is right, it's gonna find you. You know. Bye.

1440
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,440
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Ben highs and lows on this podcast,

1441
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: that's for sure. It's been a pleasure talking to you

1442
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: and getting every single detail from your from your engagement.

1443
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing that with us, and UM, well to

1444
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: another week of being quarantined. May you enjoy this. Actually

1445
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: what an amazing time, well, not an amazing time. If

1446
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: you're ever going to be quarantined, I'd say this is

1447
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: a great week for you and Jess to be UM

1448
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 1: because I think that togetherness and that the coziness that

1449
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: comes from it is something that you wouldn't normally get

1450
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: to savor UM in a regular day lifestyle. Yeah it is,

1451
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: And this is a special time for us and and

1452
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,799
Speaker 1: we are celebrating, trust me, we are. We are soaking

1453
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: up every moment we have with each other, and especially

1454
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,799
Speaker 1: the moments that have very little distraction right now because

1455
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: of the pandemic. But as we did two weeks ago,

1456
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: Ashley and I uh want to send a final note

1457
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 1: to all of you out there. Uh again, I'll mention

1458
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: and and just say this so that hopefully you can

1459
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: see that I can relate, and I know Ashley can

1460
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: as well because her husband has worked in this world.

1461
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: But I am invested in the three restaurants, and I

1462
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 1: own two coffee shops UH personally, all of which are

1463
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: struggling right now, all of which have employees who are

1464
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: no longer working UH for us and with us because

1465
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 1: they these shops are not open. And so I just

1466
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 1: wanna on behalf of Ashley and I in this podcast

1467
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: want to send send something out to all of you.

1468
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: We want to have fun here, we want to be entertained.

1469
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: We want to talk about exciting new things going on

1470
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: a Bachelor Nation and in the world of pop culture

1471
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: and in the world of Ashley and I. But we

1472
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: also are not naive to the fact that there are

1473
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: people truly, truly, truly hurting and like super people, really

1474
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: confused just like Anna, and depressed and feeling isolated and alone,

1475
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: and so all to all of you, I just know

1476
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: one thing, the one truth is actually and I want

1477
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: to share with you, is that you're not alone. Two

1478
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: is that we're doing this podcast to help you feel

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Speaker 1: And Third, if you need help, please listen to this

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Speaker 1: But I believe that love always conquers any type of

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