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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Moodey. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic and Patrick another

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Speaker 1: blow to the Cubs rotation. Matthew Boyd is out. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like a minimum stint. Both he and counsel like

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Speaker 1: this was not like grasping for Straw's optimism. This was

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Speaker 1: very clear immediately they're being proactive. It's biceps. Biceps strain,

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Speaker 1: I believe, is what the exact diagnosis is. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like during recovery during his starts, like as your body recovers,

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Speaker 1: you know, everything recovers. And this was the one thing

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Speaker 1: that was lingering. Boyd through a side session on or

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Speaker 1: On felt fine. He said he was in no pain

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Speaker 1: when talking to us on Monday. He's going to continue throwing.

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Speaker 1: The expectation is two weeks on the shelf back against

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Speaker 1: the Mets in that home series, I believe at Wrigley

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Speaker 1: Field around like, I believe that's like the sixteen, seventeenth,

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Speaker 1: eighteen somewhere around there. Look, it's right now, that's what

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Speaker 1: that is. That's what they're saying when both the player

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Speaker 1: and the manager are this adamant about minimum stay, I

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Speaker 1: do tend to lean towards Okay, this sounds like they're

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Speaker 1: being very proactive, But at end, Kate Horton, we're still

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Speaker 1: waiting exact results on that two huge arms out of

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Speaker 1: their rotation. We don't know how long Kate Horton is.

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Speaker 1: I think optimistically you're looking at a couple months there right,

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Speaker 1: Like that's a good probably. I don't like, we're certainly

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Speaker 1: not looking at a minimum stay for Kate Orton. You're

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Speaker 1: already testing your depth here. Javier Asad starts today, that's Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: will likely get either Colin Ray start or culinary bulk

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Speaker 1: already this early in the season. It's it's a blow.

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Speaker 1: It's a blow to the season. It's a blow to

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Speaker 1: the Cubs. I think you you cling to the fact

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Speaker 1: that Matthew Boyd is not seriously injured and go from there.

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Speaker 1: But it's hard to for Cubs fans. I'm sure to

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Speaker 1: kind of like accept what's happening right now with all

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Speaker 1: the injuries piling up.

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Speaker 2: I mean ten games into the season. You got for

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Speaker 2: your opening day rotation on the injured list.

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Speaker 3: And I think.

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Speaker 2: As we were listening two Cubs officials and players talk

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Speaker 2: about the depth of this team in spring training, you're

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Speaker 2: thinking like, oh, okay, once it gets into June, or

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Speaker 2: if guy needs you know, a guy needs a breather

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Speaker 2: here or there, which is sounds like what Boyd is

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Speaker 2: getting just like very early in the season.

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Speaker 3: But you don't think you're going, you know, this quickly

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Speaker 3: or this.

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Speaker 2: Hard into those reserves, like that reserve fun is there

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Speaker 2: for a reason, for this exact reason. You don't think

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to start, you know, cashing it in

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Speaker 2: so soon. And yeah, we'll see what that depth is

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Speaker 2: truly made of here. I mean, obviously we talked about

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Speaker 2: Horton last week. There is no replacing that sort of upside.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about one of uh small handful of pitchers

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Speaker 2: in the game who represent that sort of you did

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Speaker 2: the Aces project, you know what I'm talking about, Like

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Speaker 2: the type of guy who could contend for a cy Young.

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Speaker 2: I mean, boy just kind of the guy they they

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Speaker 2: of last season. And you know, once you get into

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Speaker 2: this I thought you did a good job laying it

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Speaker 2: out in the story. It seems kind of early in

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Speaker 2: the season to be doing this, But like, where's Jordan

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Speaker 2: Wicks at? You know what about Kyle Wright, Like, you know,

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Speaker 2: we as people coming to him. He spent a lot

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Speaker 2: of time talking about Ben Brown, like is he going

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Speaker 2: was it like in the clubhouse. Has they been kind

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Speaker 2: of processing this news and absorbing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I would say nobody is is like devastated.

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Speaker 1: Nobody seems like it's so early in the season, you're

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Speaker 1: not seeing that. We got this news afterwards stepped out

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Speaker 1: they kind of sat him down and said, look, let's

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Speaker 1: get this out of your system type of thing, like

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Speaker 1: you don't have to do the you know, eighty five

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Speaker 1: It really doesn't sound like it's a it's a major issue.

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Speaker 1: It also doesn't seem like this team is in any

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Speaker 1: sort of like we're super worried mode. I think the

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Speaker 1: bigger blow is Kate Horton. You know, if he's gone

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Speaker 1: for months or the season, you can't You said it,

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Speaker 1: you cannot replace that. There is no replacing that. I

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Speaker 1: wonder at what point do you send Ben Brown down

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Speaker 1: because I think Ben Brown has a lot of potential

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Speaker 1: last week sometime he had like a multi inning outing

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Speaker 1: and looked really good, and then Sunday, game two of

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Speaker 1: the doubleheader, he doesn't look very good, and it's just like,

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Speaker 1: what who is this guy? What is he? Is it

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Speaker 1: that needs to happen. I think that less about his

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Speaker 1: Or is he just the best option if you can

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Speaker 1: kind of get him to click? Is he the best

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Speaker 1: A lot to process right now. I mean, Vincent Velaskiez

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Speaker 1: the minors. They like, that's just the reality of the situation.

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Speaker 1: When you have two injuries to the rotation ten games

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Speaker 1: And I know, I think I should mention him because

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Speaker 1: Jackson Wiggins isn't as developed as Kate Horton. Like Jackson

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Speaker 1: Wiggins has walk problems. He's never had a walk rate

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Speaker 1: below ten percent. He's never thrown more than seventy innings

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Speaker 1: He's got developmental hurdles to cross. Does that mean no

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Speaker 1: chance for Jackson Wiggins this season? No, that just means

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Speaker 1: teams act with young players. Yes, but he's not ready

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Speaker 1: that's down the road. And then of course Justin Steele,

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Speaker 1: that's the other guy not eligible till I wrote this

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Speaker 1: May twenty fourth, I want to say, and who knows

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Speaker 1: if that's actually when he'll be ready, So you can't

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the trade deadline is also three

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Speaker 2: to assume that they'll be in the market for starting pitchers.

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Speaker 3: I don't know exactly who will.

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Speaker 2: Be available, but it will be worth monitoring, all right,

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Speaker 2: which teams are falling out of a quick which are

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Speaker 2: anticipate being available? And I mean literally, at this time

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Speaker 2: last week, you would have not circled another starting pitcher

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Speaker 2: as like the primary need. Like obviously you have to

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Speaker 2: let things play out and certain needs do become a parent,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, a starter and or maybe some high octane

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Speaker 3: To be a constant area of focus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, always is. Why don't we take a break and

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Speaker 1: we can talk a little bit about this disjointed start

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Speaker 1: and and and what you just touched on the bullpen there.

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Speaker 1: One thing I wanted to wrap up last segment, just

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Speaker 1: remind fans look, Justin Steele went down early last year.

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Speaker 1: Showed him Anaga went down for two months. Matthew Boyd

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Speaker 1: should not be out that long. Guys can step up.

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Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera was brought in for a reason and it's

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Speaker 1: because of his upside. The Cubs, I think what you

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Speaker 1: were alluding to about the trade deadline. They need to

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Speaker 1: stay afloat, They need to stay close, They need to compete.

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Speaker 1: Their offense needs to step up and kind of carry

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Speaker 1: the team for a little bit, and that's how you

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs again, that's how you contend again. Yes,

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Speaker 1: if Kate Horton is out for an extended period of time,

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Speaker 1: especially if he's out for the season, it lowers it

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Speaker 1: feels like it lowers the ceiling, but we'll see where

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Speaker 1: it goes. Do not panic as far as no reason

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Speaker 1: to watch this team or this team is done. I

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Speaker 1: the things that they built this depth and they acquired

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Speaker 1: come on, like, but that's why it's it doesn't like,

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Speaker 1: how are you supposed to build optimism on the group,

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Speaker 1: But if you can't win back to back games? So

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Speaker 1: you know, these things, we'll see where they are in uh,

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Speaker 1: not even a week. I mean like months from now

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Speaker 1: is really when we need to start looking at things.

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Speaker 1: But I get like it's the doldrums of the early season,

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Speaker 1: where like the I think the weather is still crappy

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Speaker 1: out in Chicago, right, it's rainy here in Tampa. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So so people are just like it's hard to how

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Speaker 1: do we spin this positively? Uh? This is how everyone's feeling,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well, well maybe maybe when when we return

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Speaker 1: UH for the next few episodes of this week, that

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Speaker 1: the Cubs will be back on a winning track and

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Speaker 1: there will be some positivity. We will probably have some

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Speaker 1: Kate Horton news by then, so we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: about that. UH. But yeah, that's I think that's it

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Speaker 1: from here from UH from UH, I keep saying, Tampa,

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Speaker 1: Saint Petersburg uh and and we'll you know, not not

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Speaker 1: an ideal start to the season, injury wise, record wise,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, but but things can turn quickly, so

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Speaker 1: we'll try and cling to some optimism. Thanks so much

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