WEBVTT - Remembering Hurricane Katrina | MiniPod 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.240 Nigavlampad is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with Reason 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:05.600 Choice Media. 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:08.400 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:12.799 Welcome, Welcome home, everybody. It is a somber time as 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:19.080 we remember twenty years ago the anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:24.000 which we all of course know, devastated New Orleans surrounding 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.040 areas in Louisiana, and it casts a wide net of 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.800 influence over what happened in other states, even from Mississippi 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.720 to Texas, of course, so we want to honor that 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.000 day today and get into a discussion about what that 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:42.000 moment in time meant for us, how it shaped us, 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:46.760 especially considering some of the devastating policies that are coming 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.080 out of the Trump administration that will have a direct 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:53.880 impact on FEMA. So before Angela and I get into 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.720 the conversation, I just want to give a few facts 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:01.600 about what happened and what Katrina meant for us. Angela 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.720 and I know this is personal to you as well, 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:08.560 because your family hills from Louisiana, so this is definitely 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:13.880 deeply personal. This is a reminder Hurricane Kadrina happened in 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:18.319 twenty two thousand and five, believe it or not. And 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:23.199 it's amazing how fast time has flown by. It devastated 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:29.800 New Orleans. It was just an awful thing that happened. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.959 It was nearly a thousand people died. Nine hundred and 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.400 eighty six people died. Not everybody drowned. Only forty percent 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.720 of those were Those deaths were due to drowning. Some 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.040 people died from just injury and trauma. Some people died 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.080 from heart conditions. Nearly half the people who died were 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.040 over the age of seventy four, So you think about 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:52.640 our elders who were there. The storm displaced more than 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.280 a million people in the entire Gulf Coast region. Many 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:00.480 people returned home, but up to six hundred thousand households 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.640 were still displaced a month later. Some people never returned. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.480 Evacue sheltered about two hundred and seventy three thousand people. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.920 FEMA trailers housed about one hundred and fourteen thousand households. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.359 And there's a reason I'm saying that, because I want 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:19.000 people to understand the function of FEMA. New Orleans population 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.920 never really quite got back to where it was. It 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:26.200 was at four hundred and eighty four thousand people and 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.360 then the year later they lost almost half their population. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:33.240 They were around two hundred and thirty thousand people, and 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.639 then ten years later they were at three hundred and 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.560 eighty six thousand people, And that was eighty percent of 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.040 what it was. The housing damage in New Orleans alone, 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.040 one hundred and thirty four thousand housing units were damaged. 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.760 Seventy percent of all occupied units suffered damage from Katrina. 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:56.840 It was around one hundred and fifty billion dollars in 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:01.840 damages and the recovery of funding. A lot of that 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.720 came from the federal government. So that just puts I 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.960 think some important framing. Angela. I don't know if you 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.640 know this. I was actually on ground when Katrina happened. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.680 I was wearing a different hat. I was reporting between 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.640 Houston and Louisiana. So I was literally driving back and 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:21.320 forth with a crew covering the displaced children because children 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.280 had gotten separated from their parents, and so there were 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.640 times I'd have to tell the crew, even though we 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.720 were there as journalists to bear witness and report, It's like, yeah, 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.480 but we have a car, and these kids are trying 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:33.920 to get to their parents, so we're going to make 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.160 room for these kids in our car and take them back. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.280 And we're never supposed to be a part of the story, 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:39.880 but that was a story that I ended up being 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.280 a part of, and it was just devastating. Where were 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:43.600 you in two thousand and five. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.920 Two thousand and five, I had just finished law school 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.680 and I was moving to the nation's capital, or at 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.880 least really silver Spring Tip, which you could relate to 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:59.600 a little bit. And what is I think, really really 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:04.640 fastating about what happened with Katrina is I feel like 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.960 there's always this silver lining with our folks, and so 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.240 with Katrina, what we saw was like the resilience of 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.760 the black community, especially in the Lower ninth Ward, which 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:20.200 was super susceptible based on the levees breaking and a 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.400 lot of maybe folks don't remember that, but when the 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.240 levees broke is really where the floods hit and really 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:27.760 put our folks in harm's way. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.120 The second silver lining was. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.560 A man or is a man by the name of 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.080 Russell Honore is a retired lieutenant general in the United 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:41.479 States Army and he was he was appointed to be 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:46.680 the joint commander, I believe for the Katrina recovery efforts, 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:51.159 and so he I remember seeing this man the Joint 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.560 Task Force, Katrina Commander, I remember seeing this man with 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:59.680 this thick New Orleans accent. Like of course, before there 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.279 is Chad with Boseman is black panther. There was Russell 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.280 Honore and one to see his compassion. After we knew 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.320 that George Bush just flew over the damage, surveilling the 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:14.360 damage but not really touching the people. Russell Honore did, well, 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:15.200 Dad on the ground. 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.000 So the Dutch can go get another lower for sure. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.560 You can make that happen. I can make it happen 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:19.280 to you. 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.080 One other thing, Tiff, And speaking of the children, I 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.440 was dealing with children who are a little bit older. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.360 I was just starting my job at NAFIO, the National 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.200 Association for Equal Opportunity in Higher Education, And you talk 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.760 about black people baptizing, you buy fire. My first assignment 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:36.920 was to get on the train to New York where 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.440 we were having a press conference with folks like Kevin 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:45.880 Powell and Jeff Johnson and Rakia La Mumba and several others. Wesley, 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.520 I can't think of his last name. Don't mean I 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.360 love you any less, Wesley, But on what recovery efforts 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.200 would look like, particularly for the HBCU community, and so 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.680 we were going through all of the damage at Dillard, 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:02.880 at Suno, at Xavier, and how our schools. 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:03.440 Would be able to recover. 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.640 Of course, to your point, there was also damage a 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.200 schools in other areas, not just in New Orleans, not 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:12.279 just in Louisiana, and we knew that the federal government 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:13.960 was going to wrestle with how it was going to 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:15.080 help these schools recover. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.080 So that was a part of my first assignment. 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.320 So I ended up having to touch it not only 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.320 through the family Wave but also through my new job 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.680 responding to the crisis that Katrina was. 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.080 So it is devastating. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.120 I remember Kanye West going on air on that telethon 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:34.920 and surprising hell out of the host and he was like, 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.479 George Bush, don't care about black. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.680 Actually, before you say that, let's actually because that's a 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.640 moment Angela that really defined that time for a lot 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.440 of us. And of course you remember the telethon and 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:50.440 this famous or infamous moment that had all of us 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.120 standing still in front of our television. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.680 Let's take a look the destruction of the spirit of 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.840 the people of southern Louisiana, Mississippi made up being the 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:58.880 most tragic loss of. 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.719 All doesn't care about black people. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.320 That was old Kanye Wes we miss. 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.240 And I think too though, TI what I think we 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.960 know to be true, especially given where we are now 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:32.880 and even the episode we had UH this week George 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.840 Bush was a fill in the blank for any number 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:40.440 of presidents and any number of administrations, and it resonated 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.520 so deeply because we've felt it since the beginning of time. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:48.200 I think what is in question now is what has 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.160 changed in the way that we would respond, the way 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.120 the federal government would respond to a crisis, man made 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.520 disaster or a natural disaster that hits black folks. And 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.440 I don't know that a lot has changed. That's a 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.920 question that I would have actually for Wressell Honore Well. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.760 I think one thing we do know that has changed, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.120 and that is the way that the Trump administration has 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.840 been gutting FEMA. Just this week, twenty one FEMA employees 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:18.800 have been put on administration or administrative leave for being whistleblowers. Essentially, 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:23.720 they penned an open letter criticizing the administration for gutting 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:28.120 their budgets. They called out HS Department of Homeland Security 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.720 Secretary Christy Nome, who is an expert in puppy killing. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:37.040 By the way, she wants approval over any expenditures of 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.320 more than one hundred thousand dollars. Now, we just talked 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:43.760 to you about how much relief went to Katrina. And 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.280 my concern about this Angela is that they will start 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.559 to use the budget of the federal government. They will 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:56.240 dangle these funds before people in exchange for their loyalty. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:57.920 And if you happen to live in a district that 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.200 didn't overwhelmingly vote for Donald Trump, or in a district 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.840 of a member of Congress, he doesn't like or respect 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.439 that he is willing to leave people hanging in the balance. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:11.520 We all remember this hideous, infamous moment when Donald Trump 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:16.000 was throwing paper towels at the people after a hurricane 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:26.920 hit Puerto Rico. So this is what we're facing right now. 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:31.120 And I think when you think about black and brown folks, 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:36.520 folks and tribal territories, it's going to be really, really challenging. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.520 So I'm this is yet another thing that I'm nervous about, 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.080 and I think we all should be nervous about it. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.760 And of course, our our good brother Van Newkirk, who 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.120 covers climate change and is an editor at the Atlantic 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.440 would definitely want us to say the change in climate 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:59.200 invites more hurricanes and more natural disasters, more wildfires that 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.520 we're saying, so it feels like we could be headed 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.760 towards a very post apocalyptic society described by the amazing 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.600 luminary Octavia Butler in some of her fiction writing, that 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.080 seems to be coming true all around us. What I 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:16.200 will say about that moment in time twenty years ago, 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.520 aside from how quickly time passes, is it put a 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.720 spotlight on what black folks already knew, and that is 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.840 our suffering is never taken as seriously as white folks suffering. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.880 Another testimony out of that is our good sister Latasha Brown, 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:38.440 who I just adore. Nobody called Latasha and nobody said, hey, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:42.200 we need help. Latasha just saw people suffering and sprang 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:46.440 into action and was transporting water. And she said that 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.720 was one of the hardest lessons she learned. Moving water 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.559 is hard work. She was just trying to get two 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.720 people to offer them relief. And so just a testament 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.960 to the mothers of community. You know, the people who 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:04.120 respond and black men and black women who step up 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.280 and when we need help, and our community is so important. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.880 That is how we've always survived, and I hope we 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.920 can maintain that. Do you feel like we still have 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.560 that sense of community right now because some of the 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.280 younger people, I don't know, but you tell me if 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:18.640 I'm wrong. 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.800 Yeah, I think, especially in crisis. 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.640 But I do worry because of the like the nature 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.080 of social media, if people still feel the same type 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.439 of human connection. I think there's something in within us 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.720 in crisis where we just know what to do, like 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.440 we're not gonna walk by and watch somebody being harmed, 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.520 regardless of you know, your age, especially if you was 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.200 raised right, you know, you got some good sense about you. 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:41.680 I think. 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.440 You know one other thing that I think about New 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.040 Orleans that is deeply spiritual and has become a second 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.480 home for me. It's actually where our friend Brittany got married. 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:58.200 It's Studio B. Studio B that's run by our friend 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:02.480 B Mike or Brendan Mike go. And that was a 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:06.920 place that also was born out of Katrina. B. Mike 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.160 used to go and paint like on places there were 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.160 dilapidated and you know there was just one wall standing left, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.560 but there were these inspirational posts. And there's one thing 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:20.480 in particular in Studio B that says we are still here. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.040 And it's just a declaration. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:26.079 That like, no matter what comes our way, like there 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.920 is something in us that says we are going to 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:34.160 remain in spite of everything. And I think that even 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:38.600 like the folks who were able to financially sacrifice even 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.000 when it was difficult to get back to New Orleans, 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.760 they banked on us not coming back. They you know, 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:49.160 were eagerly awaiting the opportunity to take over the ninth Ward. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.640 And even though it has changed significantly, I don't have 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:57.480 the exact stats on how much the Ninth Word has 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.320 been gentrified, but what we know is that it does 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:04.120 not look the same as it did pre Katrina. And nonetheless, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.199 the black folks that moved moved to Houston, a good 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.640 number then moved back to New Orleans to say we're 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.679 still here. Yeah. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.360 You know, another thing I discovered at that time when 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.600 I was on ground covering is the huge Vietnamese community 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.880 which live in the ninth Ward and surrounding areas, and 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:28.040 how they relied on their community and they were able 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:32.520 to build back. I was able to go for a 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.480 part of the five year anniversary after Katrina. I was 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.560 with Busy News at the time and took a crew 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.520 down there and was able to see there were people 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.920 still living in some of the trailers. But I was 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.480 able to talk to some of the Vietnamese community there 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.040 about how they built back and how they had to 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:51.480 habitate in these multi generational homes and what they did 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:56.840 so look New Orleans means so much to Black people 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:02.760 outside of the connection to Haiti and just the rich 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:08.959 culture there. It's I am glad to see it function today, 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.600 but I continue to worry because it is like a bowl, 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.959 you know, it is shaped like a bowl, and should 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.880 the levies break again, should another natural disaster there happen 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.160 under this administration, I don't think we're ready to meet 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:24.640 the moment. But I am just grateful that people, the 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.000 people who were able to return, returned, and that people 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:33.479 were so unwilling to just seize their homes and their neighborhoods. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.880 So the people who stayed, we're with you and thinking 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.840 of you today. And the people who didn't survive, we 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:44.520 honor what you went through while people sat around and 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.320 watched and did nothing. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.360 And that's the thing we don't have to surrender to that. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.360 What we know is in our power now is to 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.960 have demands. Even when you raised earlier tiff about how 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.000 this government now sees to dismantle FEMA. I mean, we 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:02.040 had conversations at the Sea ABC Institute's policy conference just 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.560 a couple of weeks ago about what is happening with 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:09.280 FEMA and how dangerous that is to Black America. So 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.920 we have to think about how we will respond to 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.160 crisis if they're not there. And there's an incredible woman, 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.040 we should have her on the pod actually at some point. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:22.880 Her name is Valencia Gunder out of Miami, Judath Brown. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:27.040 Diana's actually connected us and she is doing incredible work 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.120 to get people. The same folks who canvas and knockdoors 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:34.040 during campaigns, she trains them to be first responders in disaster. 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.400 And that's the kind of networking we need to be 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.920 building in this moment where we don't know how much 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.280 the government will be willing to respond what happens if 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.600 we are trained, you know, get paramedic training and all 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.520 the other things, so we can actually respond in crisis. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.160 We can knock on a door, we can actually help 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.840 to save a life. So shout out to Valencia also, 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:54.800 and just. 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.920 Shout out to us building infrastructure. You know, it's proven 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.040 that we cannot rely on this administration, this government, So 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.960 how do we That's something for us. We don't have 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:04.840 the answer, but that's something for us to think about. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:09.640 How do we build infrastructure and safety, like in addition 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:13.040 to buying generators, Like what is your backup plan if 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.920 you can't if your cell phones go down? How are 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.360 you you know, do you have an emergency meeting spot? 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.680 How are you gonna transport yourself if there are the 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.160 gas stations are crowded, you need to get out of town. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.480 All those kind of things are things that we should 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.600 definitely start thinking about. So I don't know, guys, it's uh. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.920 I wish that we could say that was a horrible 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.600 time and thank goodness that's in our past. But I 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.520 anticipate that more challenging times lie ahead. So this is 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.600 definitely something for us all to consider. And if you haven't, 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.080 I encourage you to go back and watch. We did 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.600 an episode with a black survivalist I think she called 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:54.040 herself afro Vivalists. To go back and listen to that 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.240 episode of Native lamdpod because she gave some really great 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.200 information about things we can do to prepare for the 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:05.640 fall of society. She told come, yes, yeah, Well one 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.760 of her rules is you have to have the school 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:13.760 supply to live on the land that she that she 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.119 has prepared for herself, and you have to have two 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.480 years fool supplies for you and everybody who's with you. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.600 So this is a real ship happening, and we need 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.880 to start thinking about these things and taking them seriously. 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.720 So just something to think about. But shout out to 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.639 New Orleans and thank you to the ancestors for gifting 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:33.480 us Angela who hails from whose family hails from the area. 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.760 And that's another thing I didn't know, Angela the pathways 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.080 because we're so used to that Chicago Mississippi Corridor and 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:45.520 the northeast. So the Louisiana Pathway to the Pacific Northwest 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:50.480 is something that I was not overly familiar with. Just 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:51.840 somewhere black folks fled. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.080 Yeah, California and Oregon and Washington State. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:01.600 Sure, yeah, so what a rich history. Well, we wanted 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.919 to be sure to honor this day. We thank you 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.479 guys for joining us in transparency. We were going to 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:12.199 be joined by General Russell Honore who was spread a 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.280 bit thin, so unfortunately we did not get to have him, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.440 but we look forward to having him on a future 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.960 episode of Native Lamppod. Sadly, there will be many opportunities 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.200 for us to chat with him, especially as we look 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:30.320 to how to prepare ourselves for these type of emergency disasters. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.320 And Andrew had another appointment that he had to get 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:35.919 to one of his kids, so that's why he's not 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:37.960 joining us. But we thank you guys for listening to 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.199 Angela and I and again, please, if you like what 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.840 you hear, like, subscribe, share, tell a friend, and be 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.480 sure to listen to our main episode, which also dropped 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.480 this week. And you are more than welcome to go 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.000 back and listen to old episodes. We do a lot 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:55.280 of evergreen content that is still very relevant today, so 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.680 take a look, poke around our YouTube page, poke around 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:59.840 some older episodes, and take a listen and let us 0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:02.520 know what you think. We also encourage you to continue 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.960 to send to us in your videos, questions, comments, even 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.159 when you disagree, We love to hear from you. We 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:11.080 say welcome home for a reason because those yes when 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.840 they disagree, Yeah yeah, I like it because it represents 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.960 another perspective, you know, and I don't think any of 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:23.000 us are not humble enough or we can't hear something 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:28.200 and you know, share, just share the space with you. 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:30.600 Even if we're saying, well you misheard or let me 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:34.879 fact check, we still appreciate that you took the time 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.920 to weigh in. So all all folks are welcome home. Yes, 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.720 and whatever questions and comments that you have, So thanks 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.000 for sending in those videos. Well that wraps it up. 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.320 I think thanks for tuning in shared the episode. 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