1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: You know the twists and turns of life. You go 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: upside down, you go really fast, you go really slow. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: It's life is a roller coaster. 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: Hold on tight, Hey, everybody, Emily Avadi here. You are 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: listening to episode two and twenty eight A Hurdle, a 6 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 2: wellness focused podcast. Reconnect with everyone from your favorite athletes 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: to top experts and industry CEOs about their highest highs, 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: toughest moments, and everything in between. We all go through 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: hurdles in life, and my goal through these discussions is 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: to empower you to better navigate yours and move with 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: intention so that you can stride towards your own big 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: potential and of course have some fun along the way. 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: For episode two hundred and twenty eight, I am chatting 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: with Amanda Clutes. 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: To say that I have been. 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: Going after this combo for a while would be an understatement. 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: I'm so so happy to finally have Amanda on the 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: show and we are chatting about it all. We're chatting 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: about how she got into the fitness industry while simultaneously 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: going after her big dreams performing on Broadway. She also 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: chats about the decision for her and her late husband 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: Nick Cordero to move out to Los Angeles despite loving 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: it here in. 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: New York, to chase some big dreams. 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: Now, if you know Amanda's story, you know that shortly 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: after moving to Los Angeles with their new baby, Elvis, 27 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: her husband Nick went into the hospital at the beginning 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: of COVID and unfortunately never made it out. And so 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: we talk about that today. We talk about what it's 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: been like for Amanda to take on life as a 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: single mother, navigating grief, and also the escalation of her 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: career as more and more her eyes came on her 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: and her story. 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: With everything that was going on with Nick. 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: We also talk about how she keeps on keeping on, 36 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: how she navigates the hardest days with a little, well, 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: let's say, a lot of help from her friends and family, 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: her new movie coming out, and how she loves to 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: use her platform these days for good. I was offered 40 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: up this interview as a part of her partnership with 41 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: a brand called Swanson Wheo. The brand makes mental wellness 42 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: and self care naturceuticals, and to no surprise, Amanda says 43 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: that she leans in to these products to navigate the 44 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: ins and outs of her crazy, crazy days. A huge 45 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: thank you to Amanda for giving me her time. Also, 46 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: I would be remiss of it I didn't say a huge 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: congratulations to everyone who ran New York City yesterday. I 48 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: had such a blast cheering you on. Put your feet up, 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: get some rest, and take a break for a little 50 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: while before setting your next big, crazy Harry audacious goal. 51 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: Make sure you're falling along with Hurdle. Over at Hurdle podcast. 52 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: I am over at Emily a body and with that, 53 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: let's get to it. Let's get to hurdling. 54 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: Today. I am sitting down with Amanda Clutes. How are 55 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: you doing today? 56 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 4: I'm doing great. How are you doing? 57 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm excited to finally have the opportunity to 58 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: sit down one on one. I feel like it's been 59 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: a long time coming, at least for me, and I 60 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: know that you are a busy woman to get a 61 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: hold of. 62 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's a busy time right now. 63 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: To say again that you have a lot going on 64 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: would be an understatement. 65 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: Someone is a movie coming out. 66 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: Yeah to sumber Forth on CBS. It's going to be 67 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: so fun my Christmas movie. 68 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: That I filmed this summer, and I'm so excited about it. 69 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: It wasn't weird thinking Christmas in the summer. 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 4: You know, actually it really got me in the mood 71 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: for Christmas. It was really fun. 72 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: It was you know, you would think that it would 73 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: be weird, but I think it was. It was actually 74 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: really I'm going to say weirdly inspiring to get excited 75 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: for the holiday, only because I'm sorry to like go 76 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: dark for like two seconds, but the last two Christmases 77 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: were really hard for me and I you know, as 78 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: the holidays even approach, like you just it's hard because 79 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 1: they're not what you used to love. And so doing 80 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: the Christmas Movie, I remember being on a set being like, 81 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: this is really getting me excited for the holidays, and 82 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: it felt really good to be excited for the holiday 83 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: instead of anticipating it with anxiety. 84 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'm hearing you say is that this is 85 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: a shift, for sure from what you've been dealing with 86 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: over the past couple of years since the loss of 87 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: your husband. What else would you say right now you're 88 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: looking forward to as the year kind of is coming 89 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: to an. 90 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: End, you know, I think right now it's just been 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: a super exciting time of like creating and seeing like 92 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: dreams come to life a bit. So I would just say, 93 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: like more of that. I'm really like that is what 94 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: fuels me emily, Like, I get so excited when I 95 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: think of an awesome idea in my head and I 96 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: can collaborate with people and then help it and see 97 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: it come into fruition. It like just like gets my 98 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: energy going. So I'm excited for all of that. 99 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that idea of dreams come to life. 100 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: And I think that's why I have admired you a 101 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: bit from afar for so long now. I was, I'm 102 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: just so impressed with your attitude toward innovation despite hardship, right, 103 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: And I know that that has been just so impressive 104 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: for me to see you persist and continue on despite 105 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: the hurdles that you've faced. Ideas still come and invention 106 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: still happens, and you've really been focused on on that, 107 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: and I think it's really beautiful. 108 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: Oh well, thank you. 109 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: And I think, honestly, that's if I look back at 110 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: my life, that's like the years being on Broadway. I 111 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: think Broadway trains you for so many things in life. 112 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: And I think it's just like it's a hard lifestyle. 113 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: It's a hard thing to keep on doing and not 114 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 1: give up, and like it just teaches your resilience because 115 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: you get told no so many times, and you're constantly 116 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: around people that are amazingly talented a lot more so 117 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 1: than you, and you have to figure out your little 118 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: way in it all, and then you have to, like 119 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, figure out how to live that lifestyle and succeed. 120 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: So I think it's I think it's those years of 121 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: Broadway training to have like really prepared me for everything 122 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: in life. 123 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: Well, we don't need to do a complete deep dive 124 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: into the past, but you did bring up Broadway and 125 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: that is also what kind of segued you into fitness. 126 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: So could you give us a little insight as to 127 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: when you knew that dancing was something that you wanted 128 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: to do on any sort of a professional level. 129 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: I do. 130 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: I remember the exact moment in time. I was doing 131 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: Fiddler on the Roof. I was in sixth grade, but 132 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: it was the high school production. They asked children from 133 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: the middle school to be a part of the high 134 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,119 Speaker 1: school production because Fiddler on the Roof is all about 135 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: family and they needed to round out the high schoolers 136 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: with some kids. So they like asked five or six 137 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: of us that were in this dance program at my 138 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: middle school and we were doing. 139 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 4: The dress rehearsal. We were singing the first song in 140 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: the musical, which is tradition. 141 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: I raised my arms up to do the choreography. This 142 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: feeling came over me and I was like, I want 143 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: to do this for the rest of my life. 144 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: And that's what I knew. 145 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: You still have a soft spot for Fiddler on the Roof. 146 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I always love a soft spot for 147 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 1: that musical and that specific song. 148 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, And then you mentioned, you know, the hardships 149 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: that come hand in hand with being on Broadway. When 150 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: I ask you perhaps about one of the biggest hurdles 151 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: that you had to navigate during that time of hitting 152 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: the pavement, pounding the pavement, trying out for gigs, does 153 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: anything specific come to mind? 154 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 4: You know, it's just a it's a rollercoaster. It is. 155 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: You're on the highest high when you are in a 156 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Broadway show and you're going to work every night at 157 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: your Broadway theater, and that family, that cast becomes your family, 158 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: and you you know, you walk outside every night and 159 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: there's a crowd that's. 160 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: Like cheering for you, and you're like, no pictures. 161 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's like and then you're going out with 162 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: your cast at night and you're having drinks the show 163 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: and like it is such a high. 164 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: It is so fun. That Broadway community is so amazing 165 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: and fun. But then a. 166 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: Bad review comes out, or you're not making enough money 167 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: and your show closes, and on a dime, it stops, 168 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: and you lose your paycheck, you lose your health care, 169 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: you lose your family, you lose everything that you've been 170 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: doing religiously because that schedule is a religion, and you 171 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: have to do it every single. 172 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: Day, no weekends, no holidays. 173 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: And then you're unemployed and you're back to unemployment, which 174 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: is four hundred dollars a week in New York City. 175 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: It was at the time that I was doing Broadway, 176 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: and it is a complete life shift. Like you are 177 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: on the high of the hill and then you get 178 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: shoop and you drop down to nothing and you have 179 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: to go back to those auditions and back to those 180 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: cattle calls, and like that's what I'm saying. 181 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 4: It just prepares you for anything and. 182 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: Everything, anything and everything. 183 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,239 Speaker 2: I know you met Nick when you were on Broadway 184 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: in Bullets over Broadway. Just so crazy to think about 185 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: how much has happened since then, and I remember listening 186 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: to you on a podcast talking about your decision to 187 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 2: move to Los Angeles. Another curve ball that wasn't exactly 188 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: in the cards for you for a while. 189 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I fought him on that one for a 190 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: good long time. It was like a year. I mean, it. 191 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: Wasn't that I didn't want to move to LA I've 192 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: always wanted to live in LA It's just the time 193 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: of our lives. It was a bit of a crazy 194 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: time where I was on a jorney lead and Nick 195 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: hadn't been working. He was going through a little bit 196 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: of an unemployment drought, and so we were having a 197 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: new baby and we both kind of like were not 198 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: working a lot. 199 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: And my parents were across the hall. 200 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: My two sisters lived in New York City, So we 201 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: had all this like built in help and all of 202 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: our contacts, and you know, my fitness business was there. 203 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: Was just like everything was there, and he wanted to 204 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: pick us up and move across the country away from 205 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: all of that to pursue his music career and at 206 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: the same time take a job that paid barely anything 207 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: that he had done for years before. So it just like, 208 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: in my head, did not make any sense. At the time, 209 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: and I fought him on it and came to La 210 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: kicking and screaming. 211 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 3: To be honest, how did it feel once you got there? 212 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: Terrible? Actually I cried every day I did. I'm not lying. 213 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 4: It was really really hard. 214 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: We were living with our best friend, but when a 215 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: very small guest house because he was redoing his house, 216 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: and I felt really alone. Nick would go to work 217 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: on his music a lot every day or rehearse, and 218 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: so I was alone. 219 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: With Elvis, who was only three months old. 220 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: I was trying to rebuild my fitness business here, but 221 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: the same time I didn't have the amount of time 222 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: and energy that I did in New York to build 223 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: it because I was a new mom with a three 224 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: month it was breastfeeding, so it was it was really hard. 225 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: I was teaching like two classes a week, but nobody 226 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: was coming. I had like one or two people in 227 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: my class, so I felt like a failure on top 228 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: of like not really knowing, you know, motherhood yet. So 229 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: I was a bit in a good postpartum depression. It 230 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: was not good, actually I was. It took a very 231 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: long time to feel comfortable here. 232 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: What would you say you leaned into to get you 233 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: through that time, because as we know, things kind of 234 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: only got harder from there. So at first in this 235 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 2: new place with a young baby, feeling really alone your 236 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: family back on the East Coast, how did you get 237 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: through that part? 238 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: You know? I think again this comes back to like 239 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: that ups and downs that I know about life so 240 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: easily from years of Broadway. It's like there's a part 241 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: of me that always knows and I and I know 242 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: this through like all the struggles in my life, that 243 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: like it's hard right now, but it won't be hard forever. 244 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: And like I think there's just like a part of 245 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: me that knows that deep down inside. 246 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 4: Whenever I'm going. 247 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: Through a really hard situation, I just I keep telling 248 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: myself like it's hard right now, but it won't be 249 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: like this forever. 250 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: And I just keep pushing. 251 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: And I know that if I like grind and like 252 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: every day put in that hustle, that the reward will 253 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: eventually come. 254 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: So many people going through tough moments now look to 255 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 2: you and see your resiliency. Do you think that this 256 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: was something that was nurtured in you from a young 257 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: age or do you think that this has just been 258 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: a skill acquired over time from as you said that 259 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: time on Broadway and then beyond, I. 260 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: Think a little bit of both. I remember watching my 261 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: dad as a little girl. 262 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: My dad like worked his way up from an insurance 263 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: salesman to owning the company that he worked at and 264 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: becoming like the head there. 265 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: And I just remember. 266 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: Seeing, you know, like things you track as like a 267 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: little girl that you don't really understand, and then later 268 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: in life you're like, oh wow, I bet like my 269 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: work ethic comes to my dad because he worked every 270 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: single day of his life. Every Saturday he was at 271 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: the office. He would take us to the office. He 272 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: just was setting I think in a fantastic example for 273 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: the kids and my family, like you know, the. 274 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: Family, my family. 275 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: And then I think by living out my dreams and 276 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: moving to New York City, that then put those you know, 277 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: work ethic values whatever to you know, the test, and 278 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: so that it like got stronger there. 279 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: Got stronger there. 280 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: And so you moved to LA and your fitness business 281 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: pivots a little bit. Talk to us about what made 282 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: you decide to get into your niche of the fitness business, 283 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: because it's not every day that someone says, you know, 284 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do I'm going. 285 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: To pick up a jump rope and lead with that. 286 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: Well, when I started my fitness business, I was back 287 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: in New York and it was just kind of I 288 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: was going through a really hard time in my life. 289 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 4: My Broadway show that I was in closed. 290 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: I was also going through a divorce from a previous 291 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: marriage where I'd been married for seven years, and I 292 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: felt completely lost, and I just was like looking at 293 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: my life and I thought, you know, if I stay 294 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: on this path of performing, you know, it's such an 295 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: up and down. 296 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: Like I told you before, it's this roller coaster, and 297 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: I now am all alone. 298 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't have a support of a spouse that if 299 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: I am, you know, on unemployment, I have my husband 300 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: to kind of like fall back on, and I have 301 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: to now afford my own apartment. And I just like 302 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: started looking at my life and just being like, what 303 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: do I what do I want in life? 304 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: Do I want to be like living like this for 305 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: the rest of my life? 306 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: And I thought, no, I don't so and I also 307 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: just got I got to a point where I got 308 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: a little bit sick and tired of people telling me 309 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: when I could work. You know, when you're a performer, 310 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: you audition and they tell you when you can work, 311 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: when you have a job, when you don't have a job, 312 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, all those things. So I got sick of it, 313 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: and that's when I decided to pivot and become a 314 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: fitness entrepreneur and start my own business. And it was 315 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: honestly one of the best things I've ever done in 316 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: my life, because it really I've never worked harder in 317 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: my entire life than starting that business. But it just 318 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: it just taught me again that like if I put 319 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: my own muscle behind something, I can see something build 320 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: and see the reward from it. And for the first 321 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: time I did have control of my life, and I 322 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: absolutely it was. 323 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: It was so thrilling. 324 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: And you know, the jump rope it was fun because 325 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: it was something that I created that I believed in, 326 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: and you know, at the time, nobody was doing it 327 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: every you know, all these boutique fitness studios, nobody had 328 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: a jump rope class. So it was great because it 329 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: was something that I created that was nowhere else. So 330 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: really got you know eventually, not at first, but eventually 331 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: got a lot of buzz and became a bit of 332 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: a thing. So that was fun. 333 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: That was fun. 334 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 2: It is so admirable to hear you talk about being 335 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: able to kind of create your own security, and this 336 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: also translates, or will transition us into the conversation about 337 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: what it is like for you to navigate life now 338 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: as a single mom. I'm sure you get messages from 339 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: so many women who admire your sense of not only 340 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: resiliency as we've talked about, but also independence and just 341 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: figuring out how to make it work. So, firstly, on 342 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: that note, how do you feel lately? 343 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: Oh? Gosh, well, I'm feeling okay. October is a lot 344 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: better than September. September was a hard month for some reason. 345 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on. Your career was 346 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: in retrograde apparently, but like it was just a tough month, 347 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: and October has felt a bit better. So hopefully we'll 348 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: just keep writing it out the end of the year 349 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: gets better and better. 350 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: It's tough, it's hard. I'm not gonna lie. 351 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: I am an independent person, even in a relationship. 352 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: I tend to be still independent. 353 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: I like feeling like I can taken care of myself. 354 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: I always have, and I enjoy working. I love working, 355 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: I love having jobs. I love creating, so that always 356 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: makes me feel good. But you know, being a single 357 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: parent is really tough, especially when you don't plan on 358 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: being a single parent. You know, it's hard with Elvis. 359 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: He's three now. He is the cutest thing in the 360 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: entire world, and he is doing all these things that 361 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: you just wish that your partner could also see and 362 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: be a part of. And so I think, like right now, 363 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: being a single parent is it's that it's like constantly 364 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: doing these things and being around him and not having 365 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: your person to share it with is like excruciatingly hard 366 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: day after day after day because he just keeps. 367 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: Doing cuter and cuter things. So it's tough. It's tough. 368 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: The balance, funning is hard, the multitasking is extremely hard. 369 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: Finding help all the time, all the time I need 370 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: help is very very hard. 371 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's not easy. 372 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can totally understand why that would be so challenging. 373 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: And for you to still, despite that challenge, seek opportunity 374 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: for yourself is really beautiful to support your family, which 375 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: I know that you've faced some backlash about in the past. 376 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: What do you say to those people that just don't 377 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: seem to understand that priority for you, that priority of 378 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: establishing yourself and having this career while taking care of 379 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: your son. 380 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Well listen, if I don't have a career, 381 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: I can't take care of my son. So you know, also, 382 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: I think that to be a great parent you have 383 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: to be a great person first. You know. 384 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 4: If when I'm happy, then I'm a better mom to Elvis. 385 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: And what makes me happy, like I said, is working, 386 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 1: is creating feeling a sense of that independence, you know, 387 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: and that I can do something. It makes me feel 388 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: like I can provide for him and that I can 389 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: take care of him and then us and then you know, 390 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: give us, you know, awesome opportunities, you know, to do 391 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: things together and make memories and listen, you know, I 392 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: would not be making Nick proud if I didn't, you know, 393 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: try to be an incredible human being every day. So 394 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: I just I always think of that. Like I know 395 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: Nick would be like, you better go do these things. 396 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: You better go, like make your dreams come true, Like 397 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: he would want nothing more. 398 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 5: So I don't really listen to any kind of haters. 399 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 5: To be honest, I ain't that the truth. You know, 400 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 5: you said, a happy Amanda is the best Amanda. What 401 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 5: does a happy Amanda like oh gosh. 402 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: A happy Amanda looks like I've probably done a few 403 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 1: things in the day and given myself at least an 404 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: hour to work out. Fitness every day is like something 405 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: that will always make me happy. And then spending time 406 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: with Elvis obviously. 407 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: And yeah, just I think, I think, just live in life. 408 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: I love getting out of the house and living and 409 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: experiencing things and going on adventures and having fun and laughing. 410 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: Aside from an hour of fitness, what else is in 411 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: your self care routine? How do you take care of you? 412 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: How do you nourish your body? Talk to me about that. 413 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: You know, It's kind of different all the time, based 414 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: on what I need. You know, sometimes I need to 415 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 4: take an hour and go get a massage. Sometimes I 416 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: need to take a nap. 417 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes I need to have, you know, a coffee or 418 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: a dinner with a you know, best friend. I think 419 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: I've just gotten really good at listening to my body. 420 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. Like. I think we 421 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: all just need to like do a check in on 422 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: ourselves and like, what is it that I need today 423 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: in order to make myself happy for today Tomorrow? 424 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: It might be a different equation, you know. 425 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. 426 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: And so what I'm also hearing you say is that 427 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: this like self care, this wellness practice is not just outside, 428 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: it's inside as well. 429 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I think so. 430 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: I mean if you're like like like specifically, like if 431 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm having like a very like anxious anxiety day, like 432 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: I know, I need to go work out because I 433 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: need to like exert that energy. I need to stop 434 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: thinking of whatever is making me anxious and like go, 435 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: you know, jump it out or punch it out or 436 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: dance it out, whatever it is. And I always feel better. 437 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: But like if I'm having like brain fog and I'm 438 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: like can't even think, like I know I need to 439 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: like lay down or get a good night's sleep. I 440 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: mean I think it's all just like chucking in with 441 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: yourself from head to toe. It's sleep, it's exercise, it's 442 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: and it's spending time with my little guy. 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I can totally relate to what 516 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: you were saying also about like every month being a 517 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: little bit different as it comes to like navigating the 518 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: day to day, especially with grief. I mean, for someone 519 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 2: else who may be experiencing grief of any kind, do 520 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: you have any advice to them when it comes to 521 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 2: having grace with yourself and processing that? 522 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my god, it's a never ending battle. 523 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean if I look at September, September is 524 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: our wedding anniversary, it's Nick's birthday, it's back to school, 525 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: it's back to work. So I look at that month 526 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, it's hard. Like, you know, people 527 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: don't understand like grief. Even even dropping Elvis off at school, 528 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: you walk in and you see other you know, either 529 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: families dropping off their kids together or a dad giving 530 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: their kid a hug and dropping off their child together, 531 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: and you see Elvis clock the dad giving the little 532 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: girl a hug, and you're like, it's instant like hit 533 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: with grief. And you drop the kid off and I 534 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: turned the corner and I immediately start crying, and I'm 535 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: crying all the way to work because he'll never have 536 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: his dad drop him off at school. 537 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 4: You know, it's like it's not a thing that ever 538 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 4: goes away. 539 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's what I don't think people understand 540 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: about grief. And I think when you initially something like 541 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: this happens to you, when you lose a husband or 542 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: a wife, or a child or even a parent, you 543 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: don't even understand that at first, you don't even understand 544 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: that like in years to come, you're going to have 545 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: these things that hit you all the time because it's 546 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: a new experience. For instance, I always say grief is 547 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: an onion, and it's every time, you know, when you're 548 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: cooking with an onion, you cut off a new. 549 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: Layer of annion or peel an onion, you start to cry. 550 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 4: It's the same thing. Grief is like this onion that 551 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 4: will have you'll have your entire life. 552 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: And every time a new situation comes up that you 553 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: don't expect. It's like you peel off a new layer 554 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: and it makes you cry. It's why grief never really 555 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: goes away. 556 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And you know there has been let's say 557 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: a few blessings at least as you've navigated your grief, 558 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: for sure. And I know that you always do choose 559 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: to look for the bright side in things for you 560 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: as you've experienced so many me things over the last 561 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: couple of years now being an author of course, having 562 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: this new platform on the talk and coming into your 563 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: own in this new phase, what would you say has 564 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: kind of been the brightest light for you on this journey. 565 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: Right off the top of my head, probably one of 566 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: the brightest lights was being able to do dancing with 567 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: the stars. That was such a healing experience for me 568 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: in many ways that I never expected. I knew I 569 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: would love it. I knew I would love dancing again. 570 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: I knew I would love performing again. I knew all 571 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: of that. I didn't know that I would it would 572 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: help me process a lot of my grief. I did 573 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: not expect that. I didn't expect in dancing with Alan 574 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: every single day, to get comfortable around another man again, 575 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, just being with a man every single day, 576 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: laughing and hugging and and you know, having inside jokes 577 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: and doing things together, and you know, we became like 578 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: best friends, and it was so wonderful to be around 579 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: that male energy. 580 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 4: Again. 581 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: I hadn't had that in my life since Snick past, 582 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: and I didn't understand how badly I missed it and 583 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,239 Speaker 1: needed it in order to heal. So it was just 584 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: like and to be able to dance out, dance to 585 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: Nick's song and dance out my grief. I remember the 586 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: morning I woke up after performing Live Your Life on 587 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. I woke up that next morning 588 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: and I literally felt like a twenty pound weight had 589 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: been lifted off my shoulders. And that was after writing 590 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: With Your Life, and after doing all those interviews, and 591 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: after doing the audio book. 592 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: Literally thinking wow, like I have really processed this grief 593 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 4: and this trauma, and then to dance it was. 594 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: Like I finally gave my body like the last exertion 595 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: of like not that that grief ever goes away, but 596 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: like it was like this last like internal grief that 597 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: I like got out of my body. It was insane. 598 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: That show was such a blessing. I wish I could 599 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: do it every year. 600 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: Clearly so many more. 601 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: Let's say, like eyeballs on you over the last few years, 602 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: how would you say that navigating that has been for you? 603 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: You know, honestly, I have to say that has been 604 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: a blessing because one of the things I have learned 605 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: through this journey is that we really have to share 606 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: our stories because in sharing your story, you really help 607 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: other people. And now you know, being such a sharer 608 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: of my story, when people come to me and ask 609 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: me for advice or share their stories with me, it 610 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: helps me too, like I'm learning from them as well 611 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: in helping me and helping them and helping myself. It's like, 612 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: the more we tell each other our stories, it only 613 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: helps each other. 614 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 4: If you keep something in eats you alive. 615 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: You have to share it, and in sharing it helps people, 616 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: it helps you give back. It's like being a teacher. 617 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: When you teach something you know, you end up learning 618 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: so much. So Yeah, it's it's actually been a really 619 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: big blessing. 620 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And having this platform not only to speak only 621 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: about the things that you're passionate about, but then also 622 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: support causes, brands, et cetera. 623 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: You know, it really does kind of shift the game 624 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 3: a bit. 625 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, It's it's been wonderful, Like everything that has 626 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: that has come my way has been so fun and 627 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: so organic, like it just like a nice organic fit 628 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: and connection. 629 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: Recently you started working with Swanson Wellness Inside and Out. 630 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: They sent me a box long ago of all of 631 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: their stuff that I need to check out. 632 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 3: Do you have any themes? 633 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, yes I do. I love the self 634 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,959 Speaker 4: care one. That's just something like I take in the morning. 635 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: It's just kind of like your general like hits all ticks, 636 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: all the boxes off of everything. And I keep the 637 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: magnesium yummies at my desk at the top. They're really 638 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: great for stress anxiety and just like cognition, they're like 639 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: some and I love a gummy anything. So what's great 640 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: about what's great about the sponsor Rio products is they 641 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: really have something for everyone. And like I said before, 642 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: how like I don't know for me at least, no 643 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: one day is the same. And so I love that 644 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 1: their product line literally has something for anything that I need. 645 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: If I need help with sleep, they got it. If 646 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: I need help with stress, they got it. If it's 647 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: brain frog, I got it. Like it's it's kind of 648 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: like you're different kind of you know, whatever you need 649 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: you can. 650 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: Find beyond now having all these eyes on you on 651 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: social Also, being on TV is a pretty different pivot 652 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: for you. What would you say has been maybe the 653 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: most challenging part of that because you're doing this in 654 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: real time. 655 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, it is a live show. 656 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: Ironically, you know, because I spent so many years on 657 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: Broadway and did film and TV during that time as well, 658 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: and then even with my fitness business, I was, you know, 659 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: on morning television shows a lot. The world of TV 660 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't too much of a switch for me. 661 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 4: It was almost like. 662 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: In a weird way, felt ironically like a perfect next 663 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: step from my years of performing and doing bits of 664 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, film and television that I remember walking on 665 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: the set and feeling like this oddly feels so wonderful 666 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: and feels like a family right away. I would say 667 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: the hardest thing about live TV is just that it 668 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: is every single day, you know, it's it's a lot 669 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: of information. 670 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 4: Luckily I have a good short term memory. 671 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: Because it's like a lot of information in your ear, 672 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: and you kind of just have to be really good 673 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: about going with the punches and listening and to the 674 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: person and then responding and making quickly. So that would 675 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: be the funnest part. But it's it's I really I 676 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: enjoy it so much. I actually really love it. 677 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: When you got the call from your agent that they 678 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: were interested in you coming out to audition for the talk, 679 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 2: what was your first thought. 680 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 4: Well, that day, yes, I was like, oh okay. I 681 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 4: was like, all right, that would be fun. 682 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: I didn't fully understand that they wanted to test me. 683 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: So it was more so the next call that he 684 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: gave me that he was like, okay, they're going to 685 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: put you on a ten episode contract in you know, 686 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: to test you to be a co host. That's when 687 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, this isn't just like a one 688 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: time thing. He was like, no, no, no, they are 689 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: thinking of you to replace you know, Marie Osmond at 690 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: the time. 691 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh my, oh my gosh, okay. 692 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 4: And so that was that was the craziness. And then 693 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 4: you know when he called with the. 694 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: Actual you know, job offer, which was like November thirtieth, 695 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: I remember to this day, that's when I was like 696 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: freaking out because it was a big life change. 697 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 4: I had never had a job that's secure. 698 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 1: Before in my entire life, you know, like I said, 699 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: Broadway was never secure. So this was like a first 700 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: job that I really felt like, whoa, I have like 701 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: a steady paycheck that I can you know, really like 702 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: plan things for my life. And at the time, it 703 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: was just it gave me such a sense of relief 704 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: because it was November. Nick had passed away in July, 705 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: so I was really kind of like really in the 706 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: first couple months of being a single parent and that 707 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: fear of like, Okay, I got to make sure that 708 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: I have a job and that I can provide for 709 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: my son. And at the time, my only job was 710 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: my fitness company. So life has really really changed in 711 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: three years and that job. Getting the talk was like, 712 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I feel like I can breathe easy 713 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: because I will be able. I feel like I know 714 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: I can take care of my son and and pay 715 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: for the mortgage on our house and a car payment 716 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: and and be able to save money. 717 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 4: And I was just like, this is such a blessing. 718 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 3: It's so beautiful to hear you say that. 719 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 2: Because I also think that there may have been a 720 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 2: little bit of anxiety on taking that step to being 721 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 2: on this next level of a stage, right, Like to 722 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 2: think about all of a sudden every day being on 723 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 2: live television. It reminds me of that question, that ever 724 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 2: lovely question, like what intimidates you or scares you more 725 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 2: the fear of failure or the fear of success. 726 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 4: I think it's more so the fear of never trying. 727 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: Oh, Amanda, Yeah, that's I mean, that's sort of how Listen. 728 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: If the pandemic taught me anything, it's that you have 729 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: to try. You just have to just you just have 730 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: to do it. You don't know if you have tomorrow. 731 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: You don't know what that will bring. You don't know 732 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: what the next hour brings for your life. So like, 733 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: my biggest thing is the fear of never trying. 734 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: Someone comes to your Instagram page, they see a beautiful 735 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: mama who's also a co host of the Talk. You've 736 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: got seven hundred and thirty thousand people keeping up with you. 737 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: When you look in the mirror, What is it that 738 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: you see looking back at you? 739 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, you know, honestly, just like the same girl 740 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: that you know moved to New York at eighteen and 741 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: was living in a closet with two other girls that 742 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: were had cockroaches running around, you know, just trying to 743 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: learn how to you know, sing, dance and act and 744 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: hopes to be a Broadway you know star one day. 745 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't feel any different than that girl. I love 746 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: a hustle, I love to try. I love to just 747 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: keep working and keep going for dreams. 748 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 4: I'm the same person. 749 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 3: You know. 750 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 2: It's so funny you said hustle, and it made me 751 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: think real quickly about your time on Dancing with the Stars, 752 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: because although you had a dancing background, you were doing 753 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 2: so many different kinds of dancing. Did you still feel 754 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: like that was challenging despite considering yourself a dance veteran. 755 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: This is what people don't understand about ballroom dancing from 756 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: what I did so on Broadway, I was considered a 757 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: show girl. I'm five ten. You put me in a heel. 758 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm over six feet. I'm never partnered. I'm too tall, 759 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: like I like. The girls that are partnered in Broadway 760 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: shows are five four five, you know, they're little. They 761 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: get tossed around and do lists. I am such an 762 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: enormous human being on a stage. I'm known for kicking 763 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 1: like a rocket or tipping, you know, dancing alone doing 764 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: my own little thing because I'm a huge, enormous, long. 765 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 4: Person, and so dance is the exact opposite of that. 766 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: It is connected to a partner, surrendering yourself to them 767 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: and learning all of this footwork and intense like dancing 768 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: within frame. It is so completely different than everything I 769 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: had always done. Now, yes, my coordination and way to 770 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: remember choreography and performance helped, but as far as like 771 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: learning those dances, they were so hard. I loved it. 772 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: I loved the challenge of it. But all dancers that 773 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: have done that show, because I'm not the only one, 774 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: will tell you the same thing. It's like being a 775 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: pro tennis player, like Roger Frederer, but then saying to 776 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: Roger Frederer, here's a jersey, here's a helmet, here's a football. 777 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: Next Sunday, you're going to be a quarterback and playing 778 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: for the Rams. And he goes, well, I don't do that. 779 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, yeah, you're an athlete, right, you. 780 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 4: Can do it. He's like, I play tennis, I don't 781 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 4: play football. 782 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're going to do it anyways, and the 783 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: whole world is going to judge you, and you're going 784 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: to be. 785 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 4: On the field doing it and so get ready. That's 786 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 4: dancing with the stars. 787 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: It's like, just because you're a dancer doesn't mean you 788 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: know you can tango. 789 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 2: So in these moments where you are kind of going 790 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: outside of your comfort zone, trying new things, often on 791 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 2: a grand stage, do you have anything that you come 792 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 2: back to and say to yourself to kind of hype 793 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: yourself up and prepare you to quote unquote go into battle. 794 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 4: Oh, like, if I like, if I, if I need 795 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 4: to give myself a path, talk like that kind of thing. 796 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I when I was auditioning on Broadway, my 797 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: favorite Bible versus Joshua one nine, it's be strong and 798 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: very courageous for the Lord, your God is with you 799 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: wherever you go. 800 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 4: And if you. 801 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: Look in my Bible, you will see next to that 802 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: verse every audition I ever went on and the date 803 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: that I went to it. Because before I would leave 804 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: the house, I would read that verse to myself and 805 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: write down the audition and the date. And it is 806 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: still something that I say to myself right before I 807 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: walk into anything that I am probably freaking out internally about. 808 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 4: I just say that verse and always calms me down. 809 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 3: That's so special. 810 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 2: Would you say that your relationship with faith has evolved 811 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: or shifted over the last few years, Yes. 812 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 4: So much so. 813 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: In fact, I miss how connected I was to my 814 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 1: faith during the pandemic. I have never felt like stronger 815 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: in my beliefs and faith than I did when I 816 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: was going through everything with COVID and Nick. 817 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 4: I actually like really missed that connection that I had. 818 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 2: Well, I'm so happy that we were able to at 819 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 2: least carve out a little bit of time to talk today. 820 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 2: And I think I can say on behalf of many 821 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 2: people listening to this that your voice is truly so 822 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: impactful and through sharing your struggle and exactly as you 823 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 2: articulated sharing your story, you've truly just been able to 824 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 2: help so many others as they navigate their hurdles as well. 825 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 4: Thank you, Emily, that's very sweet. 826 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 2: If you thank you right now, you have an opportunity 827 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 2: to offer yourself a piece of advice going through back 828 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: during your hardest moments during the pandemic, losing your husband. 829 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 2: You have an opportunity to offer yourself a piece of 830 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 2: advice looking back on that time. 831 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 3: Now, what do you tell yourself? 832 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: Oh, gosh, I would tell myself it's so funny. I 833 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: never do well with these questions because I always I'm 834 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: kind of a person that tries not to look back 835 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: at what I could have changed, or what I could 836 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: have regrets or anything. 837 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 4: Not that you're saying your regrets, but. 838 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: I think I think in general, I would just say 839 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: life is a rollercoaster. You gotta, you know, hold on 840 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: to the bars, and you know, when you're going down 841 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: the hill, you got to hold on really tight. And 842 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: when you get up top, you put your hands up 843 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: and you let it go. 844 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 4: You know. 845 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: It's it's like, you know, the twists and turns of life. 846 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: You go upside down, you go really fast, you go 847 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: really slow. It's life is a roller coaster. Hold on tight. 848 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well, thank you so much for coming 849 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 2: on the show today. How do the hurdlers follow along 850 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 2: with you? How do they keep up with you? Give 851 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 2: me the detail. 852 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 4: Follow me on Instagram at Amanda Klutes. That's where I 853 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 4: am most active. I have all the other ones, but 854 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 4: I don't really do those. 855 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: Check out my movie on December fourth and for Christmas. 856 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 4: That'll be fun and all those good things. 857 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 2: All those good things. I'm over at Emily Body and 858 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 2: at Hurdle Podcast. Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.