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Speaker 2: Everybody. Welcome into Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast,

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Speaker 2: and it feels so good to be back here on

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Speaker 2: the airways with you guys. I'm your host, Joel Rico,

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Speaker 2: joined by Chris Welsh. Today we are going to be

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Speaker 2: breaking down some rookies that you should be targeting in

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Speaker 2: your twenty twenty six Fantasy Baseball drafts.

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Speaker 1: We're getting going already.

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Speaker 2: The World Series has not even concluded, but we had

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Speaker 2: a show last week Welsh and Joe were breaking down

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Speaker 2: some dynasty movers. Today we're talking rookies. Chris, it's great

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Speaker 2: to be back on the mic with you.

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Speaker 1: Man. This is a great time of year for me.

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Speaker 2: You see, I got the Blue Jays jersey on one

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Speaker 2: went away from the World Series, which could happen. By

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Speaker 2: the time you're hearing this, it could have happened. So

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Speaker 2: I'm living a good life right now.

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Speaker 3: My friend likely is going to Yeah, you guys can

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Speaker 3: be heroes in Canada and the US by taking down

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's good to do this. Man.

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Speaker 3: We are in the full throes of starting the process

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Speaker 3: of the Fantasy Baseball Talk for the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 3: season from Dynasty to Rookies. We did an episode this

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Speaker 3: last year where these are going to be the rookies

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Speaker 3: at least. We're going to start with the rookies that

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Speaker 3: we think can impact twenty twenty six, whether that's players

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Speaker 3: have a list of names that are big time prospects

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Speaker 3: that I don't think are going to be close to

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Speaker 3: by the All Star breaker. So so this is just

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Speaker 3: going to be a fully dedicated episode to the rookies

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Speaker 3: that you guys mightn't want it, might want to invest in.

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Speaker 3: And it is a pretty interesting year in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 3: from the disappointment guys who broke camp like Dylan Cruz

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Speaker 3: to the players that were absolute surprises, from Drake Baldwin

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Speaker 3: to Cad Horton to the shlew of guys at the end,

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Speaker 3: even Bubba Chandler, who he screamed about for four months,

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Speaker 3: who was horrible in the minors and then he came

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Speaker 3: out and he balled out, not a guy. The last

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Speaker 3: caveat I want to throw out here Joe that we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about, because the one little caveat to

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Speaker 3: this episode is these are non debuted prospects that we're

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Speaker 3: guys that are going to be prospect eligible who had

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Speaker 3: not going to talk about him in this episode because

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Speaker 3: he should be there. So non debuted top rookies that

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Speaker 3: we are going to target in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Six, make sure you guys are subscribing to the channel

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Speaker 2: doing all that great stuff we are going to be

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Speaker 2: pumping out content here over the next several months. Welsh

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Speaker 2: and I are going to be together in person next

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Speaker 2: week doing an in person podcast and doing a couple

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Speaker 2: of fun little content things in Arizona. So make sure

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Speaker 2: you guys are subscribed and doing all of that great

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Speaker 2: stuff wells. Before we get into the list here, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to throw you a slight curve ball just because

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Speaker 2: the topic is rookies. We saw Trey Savage have this

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Speaker 2: but I can't help myself here. Does that really shoot

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Speaker 2: him up draft boards for you Dynasty rankings? He's still

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Speaker 2: rookie eligible for twenty twenty six. That twelve strikeout, seven

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's an overreact. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: Nacho Alvarez, and we were talking about the World Series

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Speaker 3: is that, like, I don't really think there's necessarily an

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Speaker 3: But the rookies at the end of the season, those

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Speaker 3: So like, yes, the overreaction is small sample sizes. But

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Speaker 3: aggressive situations. Now, if any of them become like top

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Speaker 3: You know, the AFL is kind of like a little

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Speaker 1: It was. It was amazing to watch. You know.

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Speaker 2: A and all this stuff. He's making fifty seven grand

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Speaker 2: more money than Trey Savage made this year. It's just amazing.

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Speaker 2: I can't help myself with the Blue Jays, but we'll

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Speaker 2: I'm just really giddy thinking about having him wearing our colors,

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Speaker 2: Tigers shortstop prospect who put together a phenomenal year in

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Speaker 2: Nineteen homers, ten stolen bases in a three ZHO five average.

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Speaker 2: Is there any chance that we see Kevin McGonagall start

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Speaker 1: Welsh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, uh, he's not only like one of the

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Speaker 3: phenomenal year. As you mentioned hit, you know, three hit

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Speaker 3: McGonagall almost got a call prior to the season call

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Speaker 3: I would say McGonagall is shouldn't be too far out

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Speaker 2: Hey, he just doesn't profile as somebody who's really going

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Speaker 2: Let's move on to JJ Weatherhold to shortstop prospect in

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about somebody from down Under, Travis Bazana, who

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Speaker 2: what do you think they are going to do with Bazanna?

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see him on the opening day? Rostered,

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Speaker 3: So this is my number three here. I am higher

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Speaker 3: He has got an extreme pull heavy approach. So of

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Speaker 3: They would just like let pitches come in, but be

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Speaker 3: be over four hundred and if the batting average starts

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Speaker 3: a click like it did in college, where again it

436
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Speaker 3: was just big pull, air numbers, big hard hit. I mean,

437
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Speaker 3: of the three, it's not even close. He's going to

438
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Speaker 3: be the biggest power impact guy. So I'm a big

439
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Speaker 3: Travis Bozana guy. I like him a little bit more

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Speaker 3: than the rest of the industry. That's why I've got

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Speaker 3: him here as number three of players that we do

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Speaker 3: need to look at for the twenty twenty six season

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Speaker 3: for these rookies.

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Speaker 2: So, even though you are a little bit higher on

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Speaker 2: consensus than him, do you think that the Guardians would

446
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Speaker 2: make a different selection if they could go back in time.

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Speaker 2: Would they go for a Nick Kurtz, A Chase Burns,

448
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Speaker 2: Cam Smith, Trey a Savage. Do you think they're happy

449
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Speaker 2: with that pick a year and a half later.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to go back and look, I don't remember,

451
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Speaker 3: but what was Bizana the number one overall?

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Speaker 1: I'm completely number one? Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I just completely blanked on that. Yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at it right now. Twenty twenty four. Of course,

455
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Speaker 3: Nick Kurtz, I don't think is even a question. I mean,

456
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Speaker 3: that team continuously kind of struggles with, like you, wanting

457
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Speaker 3: big power first basemen that they just haven't quite locked into.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they're happy with Manzarta right now, no doubt. Probably

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Speaker 3: with Chase Burns, I would think as well, probably Trey

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Speaker 3: your Savage. I think there's always a revision is history.

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Speaker 3: But the thing that you got with Travis Bozana outside

462
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Speaker 3: if they got any deal, is you got like a

463
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Speaker 3: really advanced offensive profile that he's just been hammered by injuries,

464
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Speaker 3: you know, since he started, and it's really kind of

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Speaker 3: taken him back.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think they would make some changes, but.

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Speaker 3: I think there's still a big offensive profile. The thing

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Speaker 3: they need from him, though, is the need for him

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Speaker 3: to be a higher batting average guy, you know, like

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Speaker 3: that's what they want. They can't keep They can't have

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Speaker 3: a bunch of comments artist. They can't have a bunch

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Speaker 3: of two forty hitters surrounded with Jose Ramirez, like Ramirez

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Speaker 3: wants help. I think that could be another reason that

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Speaker 3: Bozona could be up early, because it's like they want

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Speaker 3: impact and they want it now, and I think they

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Speaker 3: feel confident they've got it out of him. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Nick Kurtz, I think anybody would pick Nick Kurts over

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Speaker 3: Bazana right now.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we're going to continue on with the shortstop theme here,

503
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Speaker 2: moving to Philadelphia with Aiden Miller put together another really

504
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Speaker 2: nice year. It's kind of been a common theme. Everybody

505
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Speaker 2: had a very nice year, but particularly in the speed category.

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Speaker 2: He has a fifty five speed rating as a prospect,

507
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Speaker 2: fifty five at a fifty five speed at fifty nine

508
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Speaker 2: stolen bases in one hundred and sixteen games to go

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Speaker 2: along with fourteen homers. He hit two sixty four, a

510
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Speaker 2: solid sixteen percent walk rate. What's the future here for

511
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Speaker 2: Aiden Miller? Is he going to usurp Trey Turner and

512
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Speaker 2: maybe they move him somewhere else. Any insight on what

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Speaker 2: the plan is in Philadelphia?

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Speaker 3: Welsh, Well, I wish I had really great insight. But

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Speaker 3: the thing that I think creates the path if you

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Speaker 3: want to talk about my number four rookie here to

517
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Speaker 3: look at is Alec Bohm. This team has been trying

518
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Speaker 3: to get Alec Boum off the roster, and I believe

519
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Speaker 3: he's a free agent after this season, so he's got

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Speaker 3: one year left under him. So does that mean that

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Speaker 3: the team just kind of rolls with it, runs it

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Speaker 3: back and is comfortable with it, or do they finally

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Speaker 3: bite get him off the roster because there's one year

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Speaker 3: left and it opens up a spot. Whatever that spot

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Speaker 3: looks like. Could it be Bryson stop moving it over,

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Speaker 3: or could it be Aiden Miller. Aiden Miller was a

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Speaker 3: guy that many thought was going to be a.

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Speaker 4: Third baseman into the future.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of continued at shortstop, which has been good,

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Speaker 3: but he was scheduled to come out here in the

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Speaker 3: Arizona Fall League. He did not because of a wrist issue.

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Speaker 4: He didn't come out.

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Speaker 3: But a thing I want to point out which we

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Speaker 3: could have seen and I didn't get to find out.

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Speaker 3: Obviously that same team had Sebastian Walcott, who is there

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Speaker 3: to play shortstop and third base. Would we have seen

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Speaker 3: Aiden Miller playing a lot of third base out here

538
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Speaker 3: in the Fall League? That I think would have been

539
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Speaker 3: a big tell of like, oh, this is the future plan,

540
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Speaker 3: Like they know he can play third, he move over

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Speaker 3: to second, but maybe he could be the guy that's

542
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Speaker 3: going to be the third basement. So is there a path?

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be through Trey Turner. It's probably

544
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Speaker 3: not through Stott. Stott still got two more years on

545
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Speaker 3: the contract, but it definitely could be through Alec Bohm,

546
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Speaker 3: and we'll have to see how aggressive they want to be.

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Speaker 3: We ended up getting a relatively full season. We didn't

548
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Speaker 3: get a bunch of triple A stuff from Aiden Miller.

549
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Speaker 3: He only had eight games, but he finished the season

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Speaker 3: with a two sixty four average, which is solid. A

551
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Speaker 3: three to ninety two OVP fourteen homers beat a twenty

552
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Speaker 3: seven doubles, So we topped well over forty extra base hits,

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Speaker 3: which you love to see, and then an insane fifty

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Speaker 3: nine stolen bases, which, by the way, those are paired

555
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Speaker 3: with fifteen bases caught where he was caught stealing, so

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Speaker 3: he had over seventy attempted base steals there. That's something

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Speaker 3: that the Phillies could end up looking at and just

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Speaker 3: going listen, this guy could be an impact at all sides. Defensively,

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Speaker 3: he's a shortstop playing third, and we like him there.

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Speaker 3: He can hit for power, he's getting on base even

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Speaker 3: if the batting average is slipping, and he could be

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Speaker 3: super aggressive, something we never really saw out of like

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Speaker 3: a guy like Stott. So I think there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of potential there. I would put Aiden since the number

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Speaker 3: the guys we've been talking about are not only we

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Speaker 3: have not ordered this in percentages, by the way, I

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Speaker 3: know we have as an ascending or descending order of

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Speaker 3: percentages of how I think they're going to make the rosters.

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Speaker 3: This is actually more about the high end prospect impact

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Speaker 3: that they are as well. I'd put him under fifty percent.

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Speaker 3: I put him around forty percent. But the thing to

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Speaker 3: monitor to me is if Alec Bohm gets moved Aiden

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Speaker 3: Miller's a guy that does have an opportunity to break camp.

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Speaker 3: If he doesn't break camp, I don't think it's going

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Speaker 3: to be more than twenty or thirty games in Triple A.

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Speaker 3: As long as he doesn't struggle that this Phillies team

577
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Speaker 3: is going to look and just say, hey, you know,

578
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Speaker 3: he can help us on all facets of the field

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Speaker 3: there's an injury. I think he would be the top

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Speaker 3: guy up. The big key is he got to Triple A.

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Speaker 3: He's a menace on the base path with many many

582
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Speaker 3: didn't feel, and he's got a really impressive offensive skill

583
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Speaker 3: set that only just looks dramatically better with those stolen bases.

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Speaker 3: So I really like Aiden Miller. But I will say

585
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Speaker 3: that tears are changing. I actually think Weatherholt and McGonagall

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Speaker 3: that's kind of a tier. Then there is this little

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Speaker 3: tier of Travis Bozana, and then now we're opening up

588
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Speaker 3: a little bit to speculative market of players that are gonna,

589
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Speaker 3: you know, make it to the majors early on. But

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Speaker 3: Aiden Miller is going to be a rookie. If not

591
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Speaker 3: for opening day, you're gonna want to pay attention to.

592
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Speaker 3: If the power and speed continue to go, it's very valuable.

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Speaker 1: Clearly really phenomenal stuff.

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Speaker 2: It almost kind of reminds me of maybe this is

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Speaker 2: not a great comp but like an Ellie Dela Cruise,

596
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Speaker 2: but with less swing and miss less power maybe, but

597
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Speaker 2: just like the twenty sixty type of potential stat line.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, give me kind of some some Eli

599
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Speaker 2: Dela Cruise thoughts. Although it's probably not a perfect comp there, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, it might be it might be like and I

601
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Speaker 3: very carefully say this, because I don't think he has

602
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Speaker 3: the same back to ball like full on offensive hit tool,

603
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Speaker 3: but it's kind of like a Bobby Wit you know,

604
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Speaker 3: like Bobby Witt can steal a few more bases than

605
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Speaker 3: he's hitting for power.

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Speaker 4: I just like the problem is Miller's.

607
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Speaker 3: Probably never going to crack the top three or four

608
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Speaker 3: in an order that's going to take him away. He

609
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: struggles with batting average. You just really not that. But like,

610
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Speaker 3: instead of Ellie, you might look at more like what

611
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Speaker 3: Bobby Witt Junior has done. And if all think and again,

612
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Speaker 3: this is twenty one year old kids, This is a

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Speaker 3: super young kid. If all things work out, like he

614
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Speaker 3: definitely is going to have a lot of offensive high upside.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to Colt Emerson. Here one

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Speaker 2: more shortstop, this one into Mariners system. Had a very

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Speaker 2: solid twenty twenty five one hundred and thirty games with

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Speaker 2: exactly six hundred played appearances, sixteen homers, fourteen steals, and

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Speaker 2: he hit two eighty five with a one thirty WRC plus.

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Speaker 2: Just turned twenty years old a couple of months ago

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Speaker 2: as well. Welsh, where do you think Colt Emerson lies

622
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Speaker 2: here in the Mariners future? Is he a JP Crawford replacement?

623
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Speaker 2: Is he going to go somewhere else on the infield?

624
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Speaker 2: What do you think is going to happen here?

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Speaker 3: I think Colt Emerson is going to be the starting

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Speaker 3: second baseman.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that's going to take that away is

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Speaker 3: if this team decides to go out of house. I

630
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Speaker 3: know they've got Cole Young, that's someone they can take

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Speaker 3: a look at, but I think think it's going to

632
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Speaker 3: be cold Emerson.

633
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Speaker 4: Emerson ended up getting.

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Speaker 3: A spot on the Taxi squad while they were running

635
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Speaker 3: through the playoffs, and that was like, you know, he

636
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 3: could have been one of those guys like Chase de Lauder.

637
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: He was going to get his major league debut in

638
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Speaker 3: the playoffs. They didn't end up happening, but you know

639
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Speaker 3: the reason that he was there is he's a solid

640
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Speaker 3: defensive infielder. The offensive profile, again, this is one of

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Speaker 3: those guys. He hit two eighty five this past year,

642
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Speaker 3: three eighty OBP, fourteen solar bases, sixteen homers. I think

643
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: he has the lowest offensive fantasy profile of the players

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Speaker 3: that we've talked about, but he has probably one of

645
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Speaker 3: the higher floors. He's going to hit for average. I

646
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 3: think he's a phenomenal high end in the order hitter.

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Speaker 3: He might start on the team hitting you know, maybe

648
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Speaker 3: seven or eight or something, but could he become the

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Speaker 3: number two guy one hundred percent without OBP and batting average.

650
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 4: I just don't know.

651
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, is he going to

652
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: be more than a fifteen to fifteen guy. I think

653
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: it's a possibility. The offensive profile in Seattle, it's a

654
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: little bit discouraging at the end of the day, but

655
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 3: you know, he was a big doubles hitter. He had

656
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: twenty eight doubles. I think this team, I'm giving a

657
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: fifty five percent chance, so we're better than fifty to

658
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: fifty here jumping up, he's a little bit lower on

659
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: this list because like the impact of guys like Bazana,

660
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: I think is is just a better bet. But I

661
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: do think it's a better bet for him to make

662
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 3: the roster because there is a clear open spot at

663
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: second base, and I would imagine camp is going to

664
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: be Cole Young versus cold Emerson, who can take this

665
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: down unless they go make some big impactful move. So

666
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: I think the most enticing part of this is and

667
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: I think in points leagues, you know, like the lower

668
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: strikeout stuff and his ability to get on base is

669
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: going to make him obp leagues as well. I think

670
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 3: this is a higher probability. This is kind of like

671
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: the prospect thing proximity. You know, he is a high

672
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: probability of making a roster versus maybe even a Bazana.

673
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: But I'll take Bazana's offensive profile over him. But we're

674
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: going to give an over fifty five over fifty percent

675
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: chance that Colt Emerson makes the opening day roster.

676
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: Let's transition into a picture in somebody that feels like

677
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: he's been kicking around for a very, very long time.

678
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: He's still just twenty two years old. That's Andrew Painter.

679
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: Because he had to go into the knife. He missed

680
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: a couple of seasons due to Tommy John and I

681
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: gotta be honest with you, Welsh, I don't know that

682
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: he's the same guy since he's come back now, will

683
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: he eventually regain the form that we saw in twenty

684
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: twenty two.

685
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: It's possible. He's still very young. But where do you think.

686
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: The upside is with Andrew Painters? He's still the number

687
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: one prospect potentially. I know he's not listed as the

688
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: number one guy on a lot of sites anymore, but

689
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: could he get back there?

690
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: So Painters pretty interesting? Could he get back there? Like definitely?

691
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: He's still young. He feels like he's like twenty five

692
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: years old because he missed all that time, But he's

693
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: still just like twenty two. He pitched a decent where

694
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: they really babied him last year, like they did not

695
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: They didn't pitch him in like the first half of

696
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: the minor league season, or they really made it low.

697
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: But he ended up.

698
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: Getting one hundred and eighteen innings under his belt. Unfortunately,

699
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: it's kind of an inflated era. It was five two six,

700
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: but he was around a low fours x fip so

701
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: a full run lower and then we did get some

702
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: data from at least what his stuff was looking like

703
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: in TRIPLEA, where he had around thirteen percent swinging strike rate,

704
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: which wasn't like best in the world, but we saw

705
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: his fastball pushing almost ninety seven. He was throwing his

706
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: cutter still, which might be one of his best pitches,

707
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: which I hope to see more of. He hits that

708
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: at ninety he's got a slider at ninety seven. You know,

709
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: he had a five pitch arsenal, five pitches that he

710
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: had a double digit percentage usage. Now maybe he kind

711
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: of hones that in a little bit. I got to

712
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: see him in the Fall League about a year ago

713
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: from right now, and he looked relatively unhittable.

714
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: I think that the hit ability.

715
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: And how much he got hit up this year kind

716
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: of backtracked him a bit. But there's gonna be some

717
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: opportunities in like what time Wheeler's going to miss whatever

718
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: else they decide to do, Like, there's only so much

719
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: more he's going to be in the minors. He pitched

720
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: one hundred and six innings at Triple A.

721
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 4: He's going to vie for a spot, So this is

722
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: a sixty five.

723
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: Percent that he's going to make the opening day roster

724
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: because the only thing that's going to hold him back

725
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: is there's just a glut of great guys there. There's

726
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: the risk of bullpen. I still believe in the stuff.

727
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: I think he's going to have a full season under

728
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: him because he hit that one hundred and eighteen marker.

729
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: I think he can push to probably one point fifty

730
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: in a full season. So maybe they baby him a

731
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: little bit out. But three years ago, when he was

732
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: a twenty year old, he was vying for an opening

733
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: day roster spot with the Phillies, and then he had

734
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: the surgery, and then they babied it. We're beyond babying

735
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: right now.

736
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 4: I'm not too.

737
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: Worried about some of what the stuff looked.

738
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: Like this year.

739
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: I think it all got back. He's got great velo.

740
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: He'll work in the offseason. He's a really really smart guy,

741
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: and I think he can definitely be in the Phillies

742
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: rotation pending that there is availability. But I'm gonna put

743
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: it at a high percentage that Andrew Painter. The problem

744
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: here is there are so many uniquely good pitchers that

745
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: made their debut that are prospect eligible.

746
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Tong.

747
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Bubba, I'm gonna take McLain, I'll take

748
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: you Savage. I'm gonna take those guys over him. But

749
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: of the non debuted pitching prospects, there's really not a

750
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: ton that I think have viability to come up super

751
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: early on. There's guys that will talk about on leading

752
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: off in the coming year, you know, when it's like

753
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: May that we think could come up soon. But if

754
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 3: guys that really have an opportunity to come up right

755
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: around opening day, there's only a couple, and he's at

756
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: the top.

757
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: Of the list.

758
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see the strikeouts come back to

759
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: where they were. The command is the last thing, famously

760
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: that you see return after Tommy John surgery. So hopefully

761
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: next year we do see him kind of regain that form.

762
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: And I think that, you know, I think I can

763
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: speak for everybody when I say we don't need to

764
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: see Taiwan Walker anymore. He's only thirty three, but I

765
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: mean he's just fairly unexceptional. Give Painter that job. Maybe

766
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: Wheeler isn't ready for opening Day. And the last thing

767
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: here is that Philly is not exactly a team that

768
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: has a long, long timeline Tray Turner's thirty two, Rice

769
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: Harper thirty three, Castanos thirty three, jt Real Muto, if

770
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: he's even coming back as like thirty four, they need

771
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: they need to start doing things asap to try and

772
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: get a championship ring with this core group. Who knows

773
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: with Kyle Schwarber if he's going to come back like

774
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: this is a team that kind of they kind of

775
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: need to get things moving. Let's talk Robbie Snelling who

776
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: did get moved at the deadline. My brain is blanking

777
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: on the trade exactly, but it was Miami and San Diego, Louis.

778
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: It was a Louis a Rise one where it was Yeah,

779
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 3: it was Robbie Snelling, Jacob Marcy, Graham Paully and Adam

780
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: Maser for Luis Arise.

781
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: Not the podcast or Adam Maser the pitcher.

782
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: Adam Mazer, Yeah, Maser, yeah, yeah, not easier.

783
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an old joke. I apologize to that one.

784
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: But one hundred and thirty six innings for Snelling in

785
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: the minors this year, a nine and seven record with

786
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: a two five to one eer, thirty percent strikeo rate

787
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: and a seven percent walk rate. Welsh, do you think

788
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: there's a chance that we see him on opening Day.

789
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Robbie Snelling one of my favorites, personal favorite. When

790
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: he was a Padre, I got to spend a decent

791
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: amount of time with him. I think there's a lot

792
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: of people that were calling for him to come up

793
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: this past season. He had two years ago one of

794
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: the best minor league seasons. Then in the midst of

795
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: the trade, everything completely fell up heart and he looked lost.

796
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four, he ended up having an over

797
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: five ERA X fit was around three to eight, kind

798
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: of similar to Andrew Painter. And then this past year

799
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: everything came back two five to one ERA and almost

800
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: eleven K per nine. His FIP numbers were right at

801
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: two seven. And what was the one of the biggest

802
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: denominators here was Velo Returns. He was throwing ninety two

803
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: point nine on his fastball in twenty twenty four ninety

804
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: four point seven on average, so almost two miles an

805
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: hour essentially added back on the fastball. His slider he

806
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: kind of you know, yeah, he did up ticket it.

807
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: Actually he was the sinker, his thinker. He threw a

808
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: little bit harder, but he stopped throwing as much his

809
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: slider he threw a little bit less, but it was

810
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: two miles an hour harder.

811
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 4: So he got all of his VLO back.

812
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: He got Estella got his groove back, Snelling got his

813
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: groove back, and he got the whole thing going. He's

814
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 3: going to be only twenty two years old, but everything

815
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: he did this past year, like Andrew Painter, was essentially

816
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: at Triple A, or at least the second half of it.

817
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: Over sixty innings at Triple A were by the way,

818
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: I didn't even mention this in his Double A starts.

819
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: He had a three six to one ERA last year.

820
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: In his Triple A one point twenty seven. His k

821
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: per nine went up, his walks per nine went down,

822
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: his ERA got better, he stranded more batters. He was

823
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 3: absolutely dominant. And Marlin's had a pretty good track record

824
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: of like what they've done in pitching development. And all

825
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: we heard this off during season was like edwarcker Berger

826
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: could get traded, Sandal Contrac could get traded. Well, guess what,

827
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: once they make the move, Robbie Snelling is going to

828
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: be a beneficiary. I have no doubt about that, unless

829
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: they go and trade for three You know these trades

830
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: Sandal contract for like three major league ready pitching guys.

831
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: Robbie Snelling is going to be up. He was an

832
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: elite K guy. He lowered the walks. He's got a

833
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: great arsenal and just to revamp it again, it's heavy fastball,

834
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: relatively heavy slider, and he's got a nice cutter. He

835
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: did the cutter change up thing, so like it's a

836
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: good four pitch arsenal with big strikeouts. Robbie Snelling I

837
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: think has a very good opportunity. I put Painter in

838
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: like the six d to sixty five percent range. I

839
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: think that Robbie Snelling is in the fifty to a

840
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: little bit higher. And as pitchers get traded, if you

841
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: see Cabrera and al Contrago, I think Robbie Snelling is

842
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: going to be a guy. I think he's the sneakiest

843
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: one of this entire list. Because there's a lot of

844
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: big name prospects we've talked about. Snelling is the start

845
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: of a guy that doesn't crack a lot of top

846
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: thirties or novice people into the prospect game. They just

847
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 3: don't really know. Well, guess what you're in some NFBC

848
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: draft and you're in the three hundreds or something, like

849
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: that grab Robbie Snelling because he's going to get regardless,

850
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: he's going to get significant innings this year, but he

851
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 3: could break camp. So I'm drafting Robbie Snelling in deeper leagues.

852
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: If it's a standard ten man league, I don't know,

853
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: you might need to wait a little bit, but I

854
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: do think he's going to get some run, and based

855
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: on what the Marlins have been doing, guys, I feel

856
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 3: really relatively encouraged about what he's going to be able

857
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: to do in the majors.

858
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, despite his age, he does seem pretty major league ready.

859
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: If you look at the play discipline data from Triple

860
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: A was a very very good, very solid stuff.

861
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: Thirty two percent I was swinging.

862
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: I'd like to see only a seventy seven percent zone contact,

863
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: you know, that's the average major league contact rate is

864
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: like seven or eight points.

865
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: Ahead of that in the zone.

866
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: So he's doing really great work in Triple A so far.

867
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: Let's talk about a couple more.

868
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: Guys quickly here, deep guys who we could like heading

869
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: into next season. Spencer Jones, Max Anderson, and Quinn Matthews.

870
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: Spencer Jones probably the most noteworthy name here being the

871
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: Yankee prospect that they believe is the next Aaron Judge.

872
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: I think he's closer to being the next Bobby Dollback.

873
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: What do you think about these guys as a whole Welsh?

874
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, So these are three more players and having a nice,

875
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: you know, clean ten prospects that we're talking about, these

876
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: are three other players that are you know, higher ish

877
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: or at least if I go down my prospect list,

878
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: that I think are all viable options. Spencer Jones is

879
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: the most obvious. Here's where I'll throw the percentages. If

880
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: he's a Yankee, it's probably thirty percent that he makes

881
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: opening to a roster, but it's over fifty percent if

882
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: he gets traded. There's no more reason unless he I mean,

883
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 3: he might be a true quad A player, by the way,

884
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: but there is nothing more gained from him being in

885
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: the minors anymore. Like he did it, he got the

886
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: he started using the torpedo bat technically in all of

887
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: his badness, the dude hit over to seventy. Like the

888
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: way we talk you anybody Sometimes me I'm a little

889
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 3: bit of an apologist for sin Spencer Jones. The way

890
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 3: people talk about Spencer Jones, you would think he hit

891
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: one seventy. No, he hit two seventy this year, but

892
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 3: it's one of the nastiest chase strikeout games that are

893
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: out there.

894
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: That's just who he is.

895
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: But it's immensely loud, tools, ridiculous power speed numbers. It's

896
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: it's like it's Elli da La Cruz. You want to

897
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: you compared Ellie with at Aid Miller. No, No, Spencer

898
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: Jones is more like a Ellie day La Cruz because

899
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: it's hit hard, it's in the air, it's loud. The

900
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: problem is Ellie started to show his ability to cut

901
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: down on strikeouts. Spencer Jones has not done that. The

902
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: biggest thing he did this past year was go to

903
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: a lot of these hitting clinics, learn where he's hitting

904
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: the ball, and that's why they optimize using the torpedo

905
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 3: pat based on his contact spot. They're like, the torpedo

906
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: bat is literally where you're doing it. Well, guess what

907
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: it did create a better situation where he hit for

908
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: better average, But he's still swing and missing. So could

909
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: that be the thing he works on this year? They'd

910
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: be awesome, but he's still making do The problem is

911
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: you're going to be able to do this at the

912
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: major league level.

913
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 4: I don't know.

914
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's going to work. I'm not

915
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 3: even sure he's viable to draft at this point. I'd

916
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: love to see some big changes, but the stats are

917
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: loud and his ability as someone to look at you

918
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: should pay attention to, regardless of like what you feel

919
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: about it, because if that strike out rate does go

920
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: under thirty percent, he could walk into a thirty thirty

921
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 3: season like without question. Also if he did play with

922
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: the Yankees, that ballpark is phenomenal. So I do think

923
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: you just need to pay attention to him because he

924
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: will be up early. I'd be surprised if he's not

925
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 3: up by June unless he's just you know, he's going

926
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 3: to be what is it the next Mike Hessman. Wasn't

927
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 3: it like eight hundred minor league appearances, unless he's going.

928
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 4: To be that.

929
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: The other two guys that you mentioned is deeper options.

930
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: I want to throw Max Anderson out at you guys.

931
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: I think he could potentially pull poor cold water on

932
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 3: Kevin mcgonagal because he is out here with the Tigers.

933
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: He's working it not only second but third base. And

934
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this, I think Max Anderson has

935
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: the best hit tool in the Arizona Fall League that

936
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: includes Kevin mcgonagal. I think he is the best bat.

937
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 3: He has a tremendous ability for the zone. He's hitting

938
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 3: for power. He's tied for second in the power numbers

939
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: out here. I love everything he does, and I kind

940
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: of wouldn't be shocked if they just decided to go

941
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: to Max and to Kevin McGonagall to start. But I

942
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: think he will be up early rather than later, especially

943
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 3: if they kind of clean house a little bit with

944
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: some of that roster. They wanted guys that hit for average,

945
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: Well guess what. Put Max Anderson and Kevin McGonagall in

946
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: there and get off all these guys that hit two twenty.

947
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: That's the way to do it. So I think he

948
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: has a possibility. And then one last pitcher, Quinn Matthews

949
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 3: with the Cardinals, is someone we thought we would see

950
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: last year. I'm going to put it around fifty to

951
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: fifty because the Cardinals might clean some house. The reason

952
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: it's not guaranteed is he really fell apart in the

953
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 3: first half. He got it back in the second half,

954
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: Elo came back.

955
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 4: There was consistency like he.

956
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 3: Was able to re establish but he was a tale

957
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: of two seasons. It's another guy that's just a little

958
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 3: too old to be in the minor leagues. They got

959
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: to do something with him, So I think we're going

960
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: to see him pitch some innings next year. It's just

961
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 3: will they be with the Cardinals, will they be with

962
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: another team? Will he be bouncing around? I'm not one

963
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: hundred percent, but in a world of these last three

964
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: of guys, like, Hey, if I'm in deeper leagues, who

965
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: are guys that I could take some shots on? Spencer Jones'

966
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: loudest tools, Max Anderson might be the biggest, sneakiest guy

967
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: for this coming season. And Quinn Matthews is a non

968
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: debut pitching prospect that could get some early innings.

969
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: Could we see them by the twenty twenty six All

970
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: Star Break? Our last segment today, five players that could

971
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 2: potentially be up and make a big impact. Conor Griffin Welsh,

972
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: Any chance we see him up by the All Star

973
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: break making an impact in Pittsburgh.

974
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's people screaming that are like, hey, guys, you

975
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: talked about ten prospects that are going to be up.

976
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: What about some of the biggest prospects in baseball? That

977
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: we did in Connor Griffin, the number one in prospect

978
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 3: in the land. Could we see him. I actually do

979
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: think we could see him.

980
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 4: I think the probability is lower, but he did get

981
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 4: to double A. He's a unicorn.

982
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: The one thing is they didn't send him to the

983
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: Fall League, which I kind of thought might be the

984
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: finishing side of this. I think he restarts at double A,

985
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: but if he kills the Double A, you get him

986
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: to Triple A. There's gonna be a push for the

987
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: Pirates because they don't do anything with this team. Maybe

988
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: have Jered Jones back, You've got Paul Skeins, get them

989
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: some help. Connor Griffin continues like he did last year.

990
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: I do think he could be a mid season prospect

991
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 3: that could make impacts. So we don't want to draft

992
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: him in leagues early on, but we're gonna want to

993
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: put a little marker on him when we.

994
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: Get to mid season, so he's a mid prospect. I

995
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 4: do think we'll see.

996
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pittsburgh is not a good drag record, at least

997
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: recently with bringing these guys up early enough for them

998
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: to make a difference, So Bastian Walcott will move on

999
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: to him. I have seen on various lists. At times,

1000
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: he's been the number one prospect and fantasy lists. Thirteen homers,

1001
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: thirty two steals in a two fifty five last year, Welsh,

1002
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: do we see him with Texas by the All Star break?

1003
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say no, we don't see him.

1004
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: Possibilities are there because Corey Seeger is perpetually hurt, but

1005
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: also Sebastia Walcott is Sebastian Walcott played one game in

1006
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: the Fall League, got hurt, and he's out. There's also

1007
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 3: some volatility in like his swing and the strikeouts. He

1008
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: has been playing third base, which creates some extra you know,

1009
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: like ability across the field. I just kind of think

1010
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 3: Texas is still in this big win now process. I'm

1011
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: gonna say that he's gonna be more slow rolled. So

1012
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with no, he is not up by

1013
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 3: the All.

1014
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: Star break, Okay, I think, yeah, you're probably I could

1015
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: be wrong.

1016
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: He's just so young.

1017
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing, right, Like he is he

1018
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: still nineteen or has he turned twenty?

1019
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: Like he's just so so young. There's no for them.

1020
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, used to really really push it. Max Clark, somebody

1021
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: who's a very entertaining follow on Twitter. By the way,

1022
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: had a very solid year fourteen homers, nineteen steals and

1023
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: a two seventy one average in the Tiger system. Welsh,

1024
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: do we see him by the All Star Break?

1025
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1026
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say yes, and that means I've created

1027
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 3: The Diamondbacks had a movement it was called the Baby

1028
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 3: Backs where they had all these guys. Can they really

1029
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: afford to have all of these rookies, especially as a

1030
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: team that just made the playoffs or Terry Trek Schoogle.

1031
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think Max Clark is way

1032
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 3: too good. I do think he'll probably start at Double A.

1033
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: He dominates there. I would imagine by May he's up

1034
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: at triple A. So by the All Star break, can

1035
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: they really keep him down? Can they have Max Anderson,

1036
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: Max Clark, and Kevin McGonagall up. I don't know if

1037
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: they can afford it, but I think they'll do it.

1038
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say yes on Max Clark.

1039
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: Leo Davrees. Now, this is an interesting one. The trade

1040
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: piece that came over for Mason Miller, the main one

1041
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: he actually improved his numbers did once they came to Oakland,

1042
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: and he actually jumped up from high eight to double

1043
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: A one nineteen WRC plus up to one forty four.

1044
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: The problem is he's born in two thousand and six.

1045
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: He's only nineteen.

1046
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: Any chance we see him next year.

1047
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: I might surprise people. I'm gonna say, yes, the A's

1048
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: have definitely not shied away from being aggressive sometimes in

1049
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: their minor league spots. He'll play second base because Jacob

1050
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: Wilson has a stranglehold on a shortstop gig.

1051
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 4: I don't think that's going to change.

1052
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: But I think, like the way he's progressed and he

1053
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: went out and played and light him this winner, I

1054
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: think there is a high probability. I mean, listen, when

1055
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: he doesn't, I'm not going to be shocked whatsoever with

1056
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 3: Leo Direes doesn't come up. He's not someone I'm targeting

1057
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: unless it is a crazy big like NFC NFBC and

1058
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: you're trying to get you know, some production on the

1059
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 3: second half. But I'm going to go on a limb

1060
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: and I'm going to say, and that might be surprising

1061
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: that I say Walcott no, and DeVries yes. I just

1062
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: think the A's are just not afraid to kind of

1063
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: press some of that. It's high batting average I'm going

1064
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: to say yes, Leo Devrees.

1065
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: One more name, Kate Anderson. Did the Mariners need another

1066
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: stud pitching prospect? Well they got one anyway. Nineteen games

1067
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 2: started last year at LSU, one hundred and nineteen innings

1068
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: three eighteen ERA and the thirty seven percent strikeout right

1069
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: with us only a seven percent walk right Welsh?

1070
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: Will they be aggressive with Kate Anderson?

1071
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is a fun one. Tyler Brimner

1072
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: we could have put as this as well, because he's

1073
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: an Angels pitcher. He has I like he never got

1074
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 3: to pitch and I think it was like a little

1075
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: injury thing that popped up. So that's why I took

1076
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 3: him off the list. But a lot of people, myself included,

1077
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 3: have said, like, Kate is a guy that we you

1078
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: could see theoretically break camp with this, Like it wouldn't

1079
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: be shocked if this was like a crochet situation where

1080
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 3: it's like they just don't spend time in the miners.

1081
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that's not going to happen, and we

1082
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: will not see him, but it might not be far back,

1083
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: And don't be shocked if he ends up being like

1084
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 3: this year's Chase Burns where it takes half of a season.

1085
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: He's such an advanced pitcher, College World Series guy like

1086
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: it takes him a little bit of a run through,

1087
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: especially if they have a pitching injury or they decide

1088
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: to move off of one of their great pieces of

1089
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: their rotation. But if they run it back with their rotation,

1090
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no on Kate Anderson. I think a

1091
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,479
Speaker 3: lot of people are going to be projecting that he's

1092
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 3: going to be the first pitcher that's gonna come up.

1093
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: I really wouldn't doubt that it's gonna happen. But if

1094
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: we use the All Star break as a marker, I'll

1095
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 3: say no on Kate Anderson.

1096
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: Oh many people are gonna dream about him pitching at

1097
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 2: safe Go T Mobile T Mobile. I caught myself before

1098
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: I completed that one. I always do that with the

1099
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: old ballparks. I'm not good when they change the name.

1100
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: I always call them. It's still Miller Park to me

1101
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: in Milwauk.

1102
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 4: I'm horrific with ballpark names.

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00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but guys, we will wrap it up.

1104
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: There ten prospects plus five additional ones that could be

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00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: up by mid season. Make sure you guys are liking

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Speaker 2: the video subscribing, commenting, doing all that stuff, because we

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Speaker 2: are going to be ramping things up here over the

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Speaker 2: next couple weeks and months.

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Speaker 1: Well, she and I will be together.

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Speaker 2: In person, sitting beside each other recording a podcast next week,

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Speaker 2: which will be in your feeds I think a couple

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Speaker 2: of days after that. But make sure you guys are subscribing,

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Speaker 2: doing all of that stuff. For Chris Welsh, I am

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Speaker 2: Joel Rico. We'll talk to you next time right here

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Speaker 2: on the Fantasy Pros Baseball Podcast.

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