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Speaker 1: lay the groundwork for what happened yesterday, if that's okay. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: So yesterday our Tyler Hubbard podcast came out and uh,

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Speaker 1: your wife reached out to my wife and asked for

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Speaker 1: her phone number for my phone number. Yeah, you within

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Speaker 1: I don't know ninety seconds of that phone number being

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Speaker 1: received by your wife. I had my phone was ringing.

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Speaker 1: BK gets on the phone, He's like, listen, well, my

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Speaker 1: hertsepound right now. Kind of like re saying it all

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Speaker 1: because when you we as want to say, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: how's it going, with a lot of compliments like hey,

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Speaker 1: love your show, love you guys, and I know something's coming,

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Speaker 1: like the way you're kind of building me up. I

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Speaker 1: knew something was was headed my way. Shit sandwich, this

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Speaker 1: shit sandwich, right, something positive positive, negative positive, and you

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Speaker 1: kind of get lost in the meat. So you called.

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Speaker 1: Obviously there were things about that podcast that you didn't

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Speaker 1: believe to be the truth, and that you said You've

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Speaker 1: been quiet for a long time and you love the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to say your side of the which is that's

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Speaker 1: what Bustling with the Boys is all about. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: also said on that podcast that I said some things

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Speaker 1: about you that were disrespectful to me. I immediately once

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Speaker 1: we hung up the phone, first say it was called Well,

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Speaker 1: second thing I did. He'll get on the YouTube and

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Speaker 1: start watching that clip and the clip that you refer to,

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Speaker 1: and Mitch, I hope you play that back.

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Speaker 2: What happened beyond the way with you and BK? That's

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Speaker 2: like to where Florida Georgia line can't be forever?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a good question. I mean, for me, it was

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Speaker 3: And I'm like really, I'm like, we were just getting

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Speaker 3: he was adamant like now now's my time. I really

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Speaker 3: want from me? He's like, I just want support. So

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Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, you got it, Bro, Like we've

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Speaker 3: had an incredible ride. This is where it's going to go. Like,

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Speaker 3: maybe it'll bring us back together and we can have

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Speaker 3: think it was gonna happen then. You know what I

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Speaker 1: Talking about the breakup and if I see what you

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Speaker 1: see when you're looking at through the lens of what

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Speaker 1: your main storyline here is with you and Tyler. But

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Speaker 1: when I'm talking to Will about if Will did this,

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Speaker 1: like you piece of shit. I was I'm the burger guy,

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Speaker 1: I'm putting myself in a headspace of Will andized relationship,

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Speaker 1: my opinions. Will's opinion is never going to be made

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Speaker 1: by what other people say about People's gonna be out

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Speaker 4: No, I appreciate it. And thanks for thanks for answering

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Speaker 2: Forget the Kendrick Lamar and Drake Beef.

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Speaker 4: fans of y'all. Like again, I watch y'all some of

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Speaker 4: No, I totally get it. I totally get that. I'm

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Speaker 4: of the day, where were.

431
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Speaker 2: You January sixth? Just get that. Sorry, we just watched

432
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 2: the Tom Brady that question that well, and I just

433
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 2: asked you tread those waters.

434
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,360
Speaker 1: You did, because that's a tough time. You're like Biden Trump,

435
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: You're just like.

436
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 2: Man, you know, going on concerts. It's like concerts were

437
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: getting canceled. Some some artists still toured, like maybe maybe

438
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 2: Tyler didn't want to, maybe you do. I'm so curious

439
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 2: how everything was unfolding. That's what I'm asking you.

440
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 4: Now. You know, I've read a lot and people have said,

441
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 4: you know, it was political and all that, but you know,

442
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 4: really the public the public issues started. I believe it

443
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 4: was right after right after the election in twenty twenty.

444
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 4: You know, he he and his wife had unfollowed us,

445
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 4: and you know he I'm not I'm not exaggerating. You know,

446
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 4: he got on It's you can go look up the videos.

447
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 4: But he said, you know, BK was posting some stuff,

448
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 4: some political stuff, and I didn't want to see it.

449
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 4: And he you know, told me that he liked me

450
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 4: better in person, not online. That caught me off guard

451
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 4: as well, for my brother to have those thoughts and feelings.

452
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: But so that was the first kind of thing that

453
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 4: happened where, you know, publicly people I could see how

454
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 4: they started framing that.

455
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: For sure, but because very heightened at that time, extremely

456
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: heightened at that time.

457
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, for everybody. But you know, I grew up in

458
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 4: a world where you know, my dad was in politics

459
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 4: for twenty years city commissioner, mayor, county chair, and I

460
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 4: watched him move and progress city counties along with different

461
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 4: minded people. And that's what makes America great is people

462
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 4: that see things differently but can still get it done

463
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 4: at the end of the day. Yeah, right, that's my mindset.

464
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 4: That's how I approached it. So you know, for me

465
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 4: and my family, it wasn't political. We didn't unfollow anybody.

466
00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 4: I was ready to go to work.

467
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: And so now it's a lot of this stuff being

468
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: just unlike, there's not a lot of communication going on,

469
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: and then you're both kind of finding out just things

470
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: on the internet or are you guys kind of in

471
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: tune with each other the whole time, knowing that there's

472
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 2: some instability happening. It's just more of a ticking time.

473
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were talking. You know, we got on a podcast.

474
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: You know, a day or two after that, there's like

475
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 4: a Rolling Stones article that came out about the unfollowing.

476
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got on.

477
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 4: I got on. I didn't want to get on and

478
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 4: do that, but got on to try to do some

479
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 4: damage control. I don't think that did any good.

480
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: Well, okay, you go on a podcast to do some

481
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,239
Speaker 1: damage control. You guys have each other's phone numbers. Did

482
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: you guys try to call each other about it? Or

483
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: was it like we'll settle this in the public eye.

484
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 4: Uh, I mean, it wasn't really uh too much of

485
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 4: a heated thing at that time, like right after the election.

486
00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 4: It mean, it wasn't It wasn't terrible. We were chatting

487
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 4: and you know he did call me and tell me,

488
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 4: I like you better in person not online. Yeah, and

489
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 4: he told me that it's.

490
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: Tough words to hear, so that one person that we

491
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: know that hits us up on and to be honest,

492
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah.

493
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: And so I think one of the things that triggered

494
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 4: him was, you know, I had an American flag and

495
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 4: another flag flying on a close friends post to about

496
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 4: twelve people and in my driveway gated nobody could see it.

497
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 4: And you know, I think that was the one that

498
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 4: was to my close friends who he was on that list,

499
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: and if it was anything public I posted, I posted

500
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 4: a couple of things, but I'm I'm proud that I

501
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 4: posted it. I said, you know, I'm not sure why

502
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 4: we're still locked down. If there's going to be you know,

503
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 4: big you know, protests in the streets and big celebrations,

504
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 4: but we can't go do concerts. Yeah, I don't really

505
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 4: understand that. And I was backing the blue collar hard workers,

506
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 4: the people that don't have a voice, people that need

507
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 4: that kind of backup support, people like my dad, the

508
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 4: way that I grew up. You know what I'm saying,

509
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 4: people that were out of business, out of work, in

510
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 4: a tough spot, losing their everything that they've worked for.

511
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 4: You know, I watched your boss Dave raise a ton

512
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: of money during that time, very inspiring, and you know

513
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 4: I was I was ready to get out there and

514
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 4: play concerts man.

515
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: You know.

516
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 4: And again back where.

517
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: You guys are having concerts, if if both of you

518
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: say yes, we want to do concerts, or was it

519
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: more of like a label thing where it's like, hey,

520
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 2: we're not going to go do No.

521
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 4: It wasn't a label thing in terms of live shows.

522
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 4: You know, I think it was up to us, Yeah,

523
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 4: for sure.

524
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Speaker 1: And there was a disagreement between the two of you

525
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: whether you should have life concerts or not.

526
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 4: I think at the time, you know, I think there

527
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 4: was there was you know, I know we canceled our

528
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 4: ore twenty twenty one fall to her, which I was

529
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 4: really excited about. But you know, navigating through that was

530
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 4: not easy, right, being ready to being ready to go.

531
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 4: But you know, kind of that that kind of is

532
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 4: what it is.

533
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's a that's a tough world. If

534
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: you guys both have different views on what's going on,

535
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: and you're wanting to play concerts and I'm assuming by

536
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: you saying you wanted to, I'm only going to have

537
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: to assuming that Tyler didn't want to and there's a

538
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: big disagreement.

539
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: I mean, think about all this stuff in the NFL

540
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: that was happening, like in our locker rooms, like when

541
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: we're having to do all the tedious things and some

542
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: guys are like, hey, dude.

543
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: The Tits got put under an investigation where the NFL

544
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: looked at all of our tapes to see if guys

545
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: were wearing you were bad guys. These were one of

546
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: the guys that were trying to get serious swear.

547
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: I posted something after the game like we were celebrating

548
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: to win.

549
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, after the Bills game.

550
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, and stretchers like, hey, you need to take this

551
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: down because the NFL will hammered down on us. Like

552
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: I know we're celebrating a win, but you need to

553
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: have your mask on. I'm just thinking that this is

554
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: so gay it dude, it really.

555
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: It was crazy because there was a time where we're

556
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: supposed to play the Steelers, right, yeah, canceled, supposed to

557
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: play Steelers. That game gets canceled. Then like four days

558
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, you guys are playing the Bills on Tuesday.

559
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: We gotta get ready, but we can't come in the

560
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: facility because they were doing an investigation on the Titans.

561
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: So you guys go practice, So the Office of Lineman

562
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: Receiver stuff like that. We all dispersed and dispersed. We

563
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: kind of went and did our thing, and that was Yeah.

564
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: Well they started looking at cameras of all the NFL

565
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: teams and they're like, well, we can't punish all of them.

566
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I didn't know it was dude.

567
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: It was a I think it was kind of underreccause

568
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: somebody took a photo of the DB's practicing in a

569
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: park or yeah. Yeah, basically like told on us. Yeah snitched, yeah, snitch,

570
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: like we're trying to get ready for the bills. We

571
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: gotta do something.

572
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: We we actually won that game too. We were literally like,

573
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: we don't ever have to practice.

574
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: Brought to you by Zoom, Sponsored by Zoom. We don't

575
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: have to practice anymore. Never.

576
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: We were fresh. That was amazing. Yeah, we had we

577
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: had a big outbreak. Bunch of you guys got the

578
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: Vida the boys lost a lot of good boys out there.

579
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: Man.

580
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: It was tough, dude.

581
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

582
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: I my question in your opinion, obviously there's a lot

583
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: of there's a multitude of things, but in your opinion,

584
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: what was the breaking point for you guys? And also

585
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: second question, when you think back on some of the

586
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: way you navigated it, what are some things you look

587
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: back on about. Okay, I could have approached it differently.

588
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: You know, I fought the good fight to keep FGL

589
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 4: going and to continue to kind of put together a

590
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 4: plan on what that would look like. You know, we

591
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: we were doing our last you know, festival shows in

592
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. We did probably twelve or fourteen of them,

593
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: and we were killing it. It was great, and I

594
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 4: was you know, we were talking in person and even

595
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: you know, via email and saying hey, the demand is there,

596
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: you know, like, okay, we're kind of nice. This it's

597
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: I don't think us having solo outlets as effect thing

598
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: our main business and our main brand and what we've spent,

599
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 4: you know, our entire adult lives doing clearly not affecting that.

600
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: But breaking point. I don't know if there's that. I

601
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: don't know if there's a breaking point per se. But

602
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: you know, he this is this is this part is true.

603
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: I mean he said, you know, that was his boundary.

604
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: And if he thought it was best to support me

605
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 4: by cutting off something that I put my life into

606
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: as well, that's one way to support somebody. I didn't

607
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: agree with it. I was very protective of our brand,

608
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: very protective about every move that we made about you know,

609
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: are we going to go on and announce we're done

610
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: on CBS Sunday Mornings. No, I'm not. I'm not done.

611
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: I'm not going on it. I don't want to do that.

612
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: I don't want to be done. So it's just you know,

613
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 4: seeing things in a different light. And I think he

614
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 4: was very concerned about what a solo outlet for me

615
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 4: specifically would do to the brand. And you know, he

616
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 4: voiced that many times to me and.

617
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: What did he think it would do to the brand?

618
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: Water it down?

619
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: And at this point he has solo stuff out, okay, because.

620
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm also yeff, let's put more clarity on that. So

621
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: you and Tyler are having conversations. He's saying, if you

622
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: do a solo act, it's going to water down fgl

623
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: But at the same time he had a solo act

624
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: going on, or he was in the middle of cutting

625
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: solo stuff. It was, it was.

626
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: These are the initial conversations, probably September October of twenty twenty.

627
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: Now for those of us who don't know, how long

628
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: does it take to write a song like Undivided? Cause

629
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: I think that when I listened to you talk and

630
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: I heard Tyler talk because I went back and listened

631
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: to it, I texted you today too. You should probably

632
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: listen to it because we're touch a lot on it

633
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: is there is such a big miscommunication between the two

634
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: of you because Tyler feels like he was blindsided. You

635
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: feel like you were blindsided in a way too that

636
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: you're like, how does this not all work? So obviously

637
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: it's a lack of communication. But now we're talking about

638
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: timelines because that's what's really important because if Tyler is

639
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: saying that's where I draw the line as we're not

640
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: doing solo acts, but at the same time he's cutting

641
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: solo acts, well, then we can see where there's a

642
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: problem there. But if it's like, I want to just

643
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: know chronologically how this all worked out, so we can

644
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: all kind of figure out a way to.

645
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 4: Get fall of twenty twenty. When I went to him,

646
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: I had written a pile of songs after taking some

647
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 4: months off.

648
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: We like I said, when you guys canceled the tour

649
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: and everything, this.

650
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: Is this is call Yeah, you're you're all fall out.

651
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: By then all of twenty twenty.

652
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: Undivided came out January.

653
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, I'm called it.

654
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: And so you know, the initial conversations probably September that

655
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: was when you know, he was very concerned about you

656
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: know it watering, you know down. But again I went

657
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: to him with the idea of, look, it's not just me,

658
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: like you can spread your wings, I can spread my wings,

659
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 4: and we can continue to spread the wings of fgl right,

660
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: and the label we don't have to have different man

661
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: like it could all be under one thing and be

662
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: supportive in that way and growing right. It was a

663
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: couple of months after that, you know where I was,

664
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: you know, he's you know, no music out till the

665
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: FGL records out. And then December probably third or fourth

666
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty, is when I got a call when

667
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: I was looking at a boat, like I said of

668
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: you know, hey, I'm we got to make an announcement soon.

669
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: You know, I'm putting out a song with McGraw, going

670
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 4: to radio doing this.

671
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: So so December he calls you says, I got a

672
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: song come out in McGrath, but there was a deal

673
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: made that we're not going to have any solo stuff

674
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: released until February when the new FGL album comes out.

675
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: How did you receive that information when he when he

676
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: told you that, no other than the political thing I'm

677
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: talking about from you your partners reaching out to.

678
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 4: You about the song, about the song, and that when there's.

679
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: A when in what you were saying is there was

680
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 1: an agreement already.

681
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just surprised, I mean shocked for sure, Just

682
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: like Okay, I thought we had a deal, you know,

683
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: about what the plan was, so I just didn't I

684
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: didn't think it was going back to my main my

685
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: main thing is protecting FGL. I didn't think that was

686
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: a good look. Yeah, if I'd have done it or

687
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: he did it right. You know, again, FGL was my

688
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 4: top priority, and you know too, I remember y'all were

689
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 4: talking about, you know, giving fifty percent to a solo

690
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: career and fifty percent to FGL. I wasn't wanting to

691
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: put one hundred percent and start all the way over

692
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: and play clubs and do all that. I don't mind

693
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: it now because I have to and I'm building and

694
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: I'm excited about it now. But for people to know

695
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: how the origin of this all happened, you know, a

696
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 4: lot of people think I just left and wanted to

697
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: do solo stuff because that's what he's saying. But to

698
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: give context, you know, I was, like I said, very

699
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 4: methodical about how we grow and I want to keep

700
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: this together. It's important to me. This is a once

701
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 4: in a lifetime thing. And again, you know, we talked

702
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 4: about it for years. We went to you know, on

703
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: site in twenty eighteen and chatted about this this plan

704
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: of you know, once our record contract's done, we're going

705
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 4: to renegotiate and have freedom. You know, there was a time,

706
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: you know, when we didn't even write separate, and you

707
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: know we kind of I kind of pushed for It's

708
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: okay if we write things separate. Man, I'm a fan

709
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: of you, you're a brother. I support that. I'm not

710
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 4: going to get jealous If So and so cut your

711
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: song and it goes number one, I'm happy for you.

712
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: That only helps me and that's how it should be. Vice.

713
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 4: Everybody winning is good for everybody, right right?

714
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: So okay, trying to break all this down in my head,

715
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: break it down. So you guys had a conversation in

716
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen about having possibly doing your own solo thing.

717
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: When that conversation happened, was the plan the idea fully

718
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: formulated in your head of Hey, we should do solo

719
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: acts as our opening acts and do a three hour

720
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: show of FGL. Or were you still working through an idea?

721
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: How is the communication between you and Tyler in twenty

722
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: eighteen twenty first idea came up?

723
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, not not probably that then, but keeping FGL together

724
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: was top priority.

725
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: Right and you both agreed on that. Yeah, you both

726
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: were like FGL is the number one thing. Yeah. So

727
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: now we fast forward. He's released that song with Tim McGraw,

728
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: the album comes out in February. At what point is

729
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: are you guys like we're done? And who sent the

730
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: divorce letter in?

731
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: You know, here's here's here's what happened. The boundary was,

732
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: the boundary changed over time. The boundary was, if you

733
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 4: want to do that, we're not gonna make fgl music

734
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: for the foreseeable future. That well, that's not what I want.

735
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 4: But that's what I told him. I said, I hear

736
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: what you're saying, but that's not what I'm asking for.

737
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: That's not what I want. So I was like, all right, well,

738
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make some music and we're gonna we had

739
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: a touring deal, we're gonna looking for We're still going

740
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 4: to tour. We're all excited about that. Uh, the songs

741
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 4: came out his song January, he had another song come out.

742
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 4: My songs come out, you know, right after my album

743
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: came out in June. Was kind of when you know,

744
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 4: it was kind of a made known to me that

745
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 4: we were, you know, kind of kind of done.

746
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: Made known from somebody on on your team for nineteen.

747
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 4: Now Tyler from Tyler.

748
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Tyler reached out to you personally or did

749
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: you reach out to you through people oh, personally and

750
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: he said, hey, FGL is done.

751
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. It went from you know, no music in the

752
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 4: foreseeable future to you know, now now we're not even

753
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: going to tour. You know, he was, you know, I'm

754
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 4: just I'm just here to tell the truth. I'm not

755
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 4: here to try to burn down anything whatever. I'm here

756
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 4: to stand up for myself and my family and like

757
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 4: I said, the fans. So you know, he was trying

758
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 4: to get out of the twenty twenty two festival dates

759
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: that we had already committed to because he didn't want

760
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: to be seen with me really and be seen as

761
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: a duo, because he was already ready to you know,

762
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: push his solo career and overdrive.

763
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: So obviously I can see where you're coming from now

764
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: when I received that phone call yesterday, when because you

765
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: guys are saying exactly you us are saying the same things,

766
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: but yourself, like you're saying that you want to do FGL.

767
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: He's saying he wanted to do FGL. But both of

768
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: you think that the others broke up FGL. How does

769
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: that communication like get so lost in translation when you

770
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: guys are together for twelve years before that doing the

771
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: bar barbecues, pop it an addy, and headed to the

772
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: next spot. Two. Now we're megastars, Like, how does the

773
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: communication be between the two of you just evaporate?

774
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: Because when they're therapy involved as well.

775
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 4: You know, I don'tn't think the communication evaporated. I think

776
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: you know, I put in a lot of work, uh,

777
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: individually and together to help lead the way to to

778
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: chat with you know, uh, business coaches, mental health coaches,

779
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: multiple different options. So I don't think it was a

780
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 4: lack of communication. Maybe it maybe it wasn't just you know,

781
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 4: me having an extra outlet. I'm not one hundred percent sure,

782
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 4: but to lay it down that you know, BK wanted

783
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: to go solo and just wanted your support and just

784
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 4: it's just not it's just not the whole truth. There's

785
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 4: no context around these sound bites and these clickbait things

786
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: that he's saying that y'all are putting out. You know

787
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, It's like it's important for me to

788
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 4: have my voice heard, just like I wanted to have

789
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 4: my voice heard outside of FGL.

790
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: Right, So is UH talk to us about when you

791
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: guys are you guys, when you guys are meeting with mentors,

792
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: business coaches, therapists, whatever it is. Are you guys all

793
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: in the same room talking through this same stuff.

794
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: We've done in the room and then at a time,

795
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: you know, in the heigh of COVID, I think there's

796
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: a lot of zoom too, So we've done both.

797
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: Did it ever feel like it was progressing the right way?

798
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: Or did it just feel like, you know, things are

799
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: just going to be dividing even further when you're getting

800
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: off those calls and sit with your wife, or you

801
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: feel like, I feel like we're making some progress, or man,

802
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: we might be farther away than I thought we were,

803
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: or how I take us through those.

804
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: Man, it was just a little bit of a grind

805
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: to try to to try to find a place that

806
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 4: we could meet in the middle and understand each other.

807
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: But it just it just never got to that place.

808
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there any any way in your mind that

809
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: FGL gets back together one day?

810
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, you never know, man, I mean, look

811
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 4: at the Eagles, look at I mean, there's there's lots

812
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: of groups that have that have you know, gone through

813
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 4: way worse things than we have. You know, at the

814
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 4: height of everything, it just never was really terrible it's

815
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 4: just seeing things different.

816
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 2: And would you would you get the band back together?

817
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: They could bust with the boys, potentially potentially fixed.

818
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean all we're asking for is like, you know, would.

819
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: You get you down to five a conversation? Same same,

820
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: but there is like.

821
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: All messed up.

822
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: But it is good, So would you that's fine? Just

823
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: keep playing with it? Would you want to get the

824
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 2: band back together?

825
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: Man? I think time will tell you know, I'm I'm

826
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 4: really focused on what I'm doing now. I know he's

827
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 4: really focused. He just dropped an album, and I know

828
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: he's putting a lot of hard work into what he's doing,

829
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 4: just just as I am.

830
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: And so.

831
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 4: We'll have to see. Man. You know, I'm sure the

832
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 4: fans would like it. I'm sure the fans would would

833
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: love that. Man. I'm I'm I feel like I'm pretty

834
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 4: in tune with with the fans. And you know, even

835
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 4: on country radio they're jam in FGL song still a ton,

836
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 4: So I'll just have to see.

837
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's bangs the one.

838
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: What's your favorite song, Mitch?

839
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: You know it's Cruise.

840
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: You know it's Cruise when you when you go to

841
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: her solo act, did you play FGL songs as well.

842
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: No, I haven't.

843
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that be odd if you're like

844
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: singing Tyler's poets or Tyler's doing it and he's singing

845
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: your parts, it's kind of like, yeah, well you're like

846
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: kind of singing it. I'm sure like you guys both.

847
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: The thing that I'm trying to figure out and I

848
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: don't know how to get there because I don't have

849
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: the degree for it is there's obvious hurt on both sides,

850
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: and both of you feel hurt for different reasons. Well,

851
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: it kind of seems like the same reasons.

852
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: Both both males just trying to be stoic, trying to

853
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 2: be reserved, right, but knowing that there's some depth, Like both.

854
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Of you have the same exact energy coming on this

855
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: bus now. When you call me yesterday, I could see

856
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: I could hear the hurt in your voice. Very understandable,

857
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: all that you come on here, calm, Yeah, it's passionate

858
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: you and you need to have that absolutely.

859
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: I did say like, oh ma, BK's not that the

860
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: way Taylor's explained it. I was like getting a haircut

861
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: of time. I was like, oh shit, for real, man,

862
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: juicy BK. On the bus, I think could be sold.

863
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: It'll be crazy, but it is. It's so it's I

864
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: just wish we could figure out, like the core of

865
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: where you both were hurt, how it'll like, and how

866
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: you essentially fix it. If nothing else, then just to

867
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: have a relationship again, because but you spend twelve years

868
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: of your life with somebody, traveling all over the world

869
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: having the success you did, Like, there's got to be

870
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: a piece of you that misses him a little bit.

871
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: It's got to be tough, well.

872
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: Miss it all. Yeah, I mean, it's it's a big

873
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: part of our life. Man. It was very very special,

874
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: you know. It's it's dreams and dreams and dreams came true,

875
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 4: you know, doing what we did together. Yeah, like I said,

876
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: very special. I was gonna hit another point something you

877
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 4: just said a second ago, but I forgot what I.

878
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: Was talking about. Well, the beginning part was me talking

879
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: about how you guys both seem hurt by the situation,

880
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: but I can't figure out what the exact point of

881
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: hurt was. It to me, the way I am viewing

882
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 1: both of your stories, I'm trying to play Tyler's story

883
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: back in my head while also listening to you. Is

884
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: you guys, there was there was a conversation. I don't

885
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: know where that conversation was, but somebody spoke about and

886
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: I feel like we can say that you brought songs

887
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: to the table first, being like I wrote these, kind

888
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: of being like excited, kind of like I do with Will,

889
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I'll hear an opportunity, I'll get real excited

890
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: for Will, and Will doesn't know how to react to

891
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: me because he's like, I don't know, like do you

892
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: what do you want from me? And then after that

893
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: it kind of just seems like it was just a

894
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: slow bleed until you guys died, and I don't like

895
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: there was you know, the inauguration. We talked about that,

896
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: We talked about him releasing songs before, Like when you say.

897
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 4: I think getting back to my love of FGL and

898
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 4: the brand and all the hard work and the fans.

899
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 4: That's one of the reasons that you know, I haven't

900
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 4: played FGL songs. I'm really proud of those and I

901
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 4: miss playing those together. Right, that's to me where they

902
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: should live. I think with with some of these half

903
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: truths with no context quotes coming out and maybe him

904
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: playing FGL songs, one would assume that he's carrying on

905
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 4: fg L without me, right, it appeared it can appear

906
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 4: that way, So out of out of respect of what

907
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: we've built together, that's that's why I don't, you know,

908
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 4: and maybe I will one day, you never know. They're

909
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: great songs, and I had a hand in writing a

910
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: lot of our hits, so you know it, it really

911
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 4: comes down to, you know, I love our brand, I

912
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: love what we built, and I was very very protective

913
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 4: and not wanting to announce that we were done because

914
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 4: I wasn't done.

915
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, when you when you go back to the

916
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: call when you were in South Florida and he talks

917
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: to you about writing the song with McGraw that's gonna

918
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: come out, YadA YadA, and you say, and I don't

919
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: know how you responded, but you said, you know, I

920
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: thought that we had something going on. We had we

921
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: were figuring something out. Like what is his response when

922
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 2: you were saying something like that, because I'm assuming it'side,

923
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: So I thought we had something going on here. And

924
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: then you're just like, well that's sick, bro. And then

925
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: you guys hang up and it just you go your

926
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 2: ways about it, like how is that conversation unfolding when

927
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: you're under the assumption of something else and you were

928
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: trying to Hey, bro, I thought we I thought we

929
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: you know, we're going to do X, Y and Z.

930
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 4: I mean to be honest with you, I just let

931
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: it happen. When the song's already recorded and you've got

932
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: a record label that's ready to push it and have

933
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: this moment, not much you can do.

934
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, damn well Tyler during the interview, so

935
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: we asked Tyler about like the breakup and the fans

936
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: are kind of clamoring wondering what was going on, and

937
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: Tyler said in our podcast that he didn't feel like

938
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: it was his place to say what was going on.

939
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: He felt it was for you to say what was

940
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: going on, kind of putting that situation, saying that it

941
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: came from you, that you wanted to go solo. That's

942
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: how this kind of all originated. Where was the conversation.

943
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: Was there ever a conversation about, like, you guys, how

944
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: you're going to announce a breakup, why you should be

945
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: the one to do it, why Tyler should be the

946
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: one to do it or do it together? Was there

947
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: anything like that?

948
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, we went back and forth multiple times and I

949
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 4: just I really wasn't willing to do it.

950
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 2: Yet you weren't willing to do it because you didn't

951
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: want the breakup to happen.

952
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: No, I mean, it's it's not just yeah, it's two

953
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: people right right, It's like one wants it over and

954
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: one doesn't.

955
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

956
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: But the thing that's crazy is both you guys are

957
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: saying you're the ones that got broken up with. You know,

958
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: you guys are both the ones that seem the most

959
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: like you're like we Tyler, we use the analogy of

960
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: like getting divorced, Like someone comes to you and they

961
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: have sense to give you an ultimatum and they essentially

962
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: choose sleeping with the neighbors. However, Tyler said it, and

963
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: now you're saying, like you didn't want it, you didn't

964
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: want to release this stuff. So you guys are both

965
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: saying the same thing that you didn't want to leave Florida,

966
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: Georgia line. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

967
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 2: I think too, Like it's like he says it's important

968
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: for him to like kind of speak his truth and

969
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: give context around the whole thing, And there's probably the

970
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: ultimately it's like you're not just gonna be like, well

971
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: he said this, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's

972
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: like you're trying to like speak, I wish you would.

973
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: You're trying to tell your side of everything while trying

974
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: not to be like like I'm not I'm not coming

975
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: on here to just be like, oh he said this

976
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: whole time I said this, he said that, right, you

977
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I feel like that's kind of

978
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: hard to be like, I see what you're saying. It's

979
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: like both of them feel like they were caught off guard.

980
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: They're both not not necessarily wanting it to happen, and

981
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: it's like, well then how could you guys not figure

982
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: it out?

983
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: Like this is this is the this is the actual

984
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: breakup that happens where you know they're going to see

985
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: each other at a bar one night and go home

986
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: together because there's just so much they don't know. They

987
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: both have a couple of dreams to see each other,

988
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: like why did we break up? And they kind of

989
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: just go home and do the thing and they wake

990
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: up and they remember exactly why.

991
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Samuel Jackson shows up and trying to get

992
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: the Avengers together.

993
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I don't understand that reference, but yes, yes, well,

994
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with you on that. I'll tell what

995
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: we need to do. Let's get the boys back together.

996
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: Not together in a band, but get them in a

997
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: room together and hash it out.

998
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: Would you guys come on the bus together?

999
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 4: No?

1000
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: You know what?

1001
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: What's where? Where's the Hey?

1002
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 2: Maybe we start, let's talk about the good time. Let's

1003
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: talk about the beginning.

1004
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the record?

1005
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Record?

1006
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 4: Bro?

1007
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: Oh?

1008
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: Hey, was Kiss My Boots about Tyler?

1009
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 4: It's about a lot of people. Y'all aren't careful. It's

1010
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 4: gonna be about I want to write. No, man, it's

1011
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: uh that song. That song special to me and my

1012
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 4: co writers. You know it. Really, I could tell you

1013
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 4: right now. Being in the music industry, and I'm sure

1014
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 4: being a professional athlete and being in the entertainment industry,

1015
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 4: y'all probably have a growing list of people that are

1016
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 4: on your kiss my Boots list, right. It's not directed

1017
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 4: at one person. It's not you know, the day we

1018
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 4: wrote that song, I didn't show up having that tie.

1019
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 4: I didn't show up thinking we're gonna write that song.

1020
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: That song came through. Man. I had a guy on

1021
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 4: zoom and then two buddies in the room and we

1022
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 4: spent hours going over starting songs, starting songs, had a

1023
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 4: chorus here, and finally we were like, man, I go, hey,

1024
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: let's take a break. I need a bite to eat,

1025
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 4: and I'm not really loving anything that we're doing. Let's

1026
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 4: come back in fifteen minutes. Come back fast lunch, my buddy, Yeah,

1027
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: fast lunch. My buddy had to get off zoom get

1028
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 4: ready for a show. He was out of state. So

1029
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: I said, hey, two co writers in the room, are

1030
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: y'all down to stay later? It's a Friday night. And

1031
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 4: just through being patient man and looking for no pun intended,

1032
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 4: looking for the truth in every session in every writer's room,

1033
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 4: every day, right, And so we just started talking about

1034
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 4: things and my buddy Dylan was like, throughout a line

1035
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 4: that sparked that song. And then we're all pulling from personal,

1036
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 4: you know, experiences and just collaborating on the idea. But

1037
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: he started with the line you know comes that with

1038
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 4: the whiskey, and so that that that started the song

1039
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 4: and we landed. I remember landing on the hook with

1040
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 4: kiss my Boots, and I just I love the song man,

1041
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: It's just it. Songwriting to me is magic. I have

1042
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 4: so much respect for songwriters songwriting game, because there's days

1043
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: that happened like that, where you sit and you're patient

1044
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 4: and you're waiting for that spark of authenticity and truth,

1045
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: and then there's days like, you know, I have a

1046
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: song called Trucks, Ducks, Bucks and Beer. Like I had

1047
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 4: that title, I saved it for the right group. I

1048
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 4: knew I was gonna write that song that day.

1049
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1050
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 4: So it's just it's such a it's such a funny thing,

1051
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: but that song for real, I mean, it's it at

1052
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 4: the end of the day, I want people to make

1053
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 4: it their own. I want people to hear it and go, damn.

1054
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 4: I I felt that way, and I've lived it and

1055
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: I've got I've got a couple of people on my

1056
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: my kiss my Boots list, and you know, some of

1057
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: the best comments I've seen on that are like, yo, BK,

1058
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: thanks for the new workout jam, thanks for thanks for

1059
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 4: channeling and putting to a song what I've been dealing with. Right,

1060
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 4: So that's that's been the greatest thing about the song.

1061
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: You know, it's just uh, you know, the whole album

1062
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 4: is is definitely like a party. It's positive, or's love songs.

1063
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 4: There's songs about being on you know, a bunch of acres,

1064
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: riding around an old blazer, hanging with Brittany and my wife,

1065
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 4: you know. And I put that song last just because

1066
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 4: it's it's enough, uh seriousness in one song to make

1067
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 4: up for the for the brightness of the rest of

1068
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 4: the record. But you know, life is life is life,

1069
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 4: and I know we've all been through, you know, points

1070
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 4: in our life where we all get thrown curveballs, no

1071
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 4: matter who you are. And so I put that song

1072
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 4: out just to let people know that, you know, I'm

1073
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 4: a real human. I'm not just a you know, a

1074
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 4: face on the screen or just some just some guy

1075
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 4: up on stage. Like you know, I I go through things.

1076
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 4: I've been through things all through my life that are

1077
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 4: highs and lows, and I song right through them. I

1078
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: always have and I always will.

1079
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: How is it being that vulnerable over your own lyrics

1080
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: when you're essentially giving it to an audience for them

1081
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: to evaluate whether it's good or not.

1082
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think you just have to let

1083
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 4: go at some point, you know, I think you just

1084
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 4: have to be just work hard on it. Man. You

1085
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 4: get it to a point where you're like, Okay, I'm

1086
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: proud of myself I sing as good as I could.

1087
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 4: The musicians kicked ass on this. It sounds amazing, NIX

1088
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: sounds great, it's thumping, you know, depending on the song,

1089
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 4: whatever it may be. But there's a point where you're

1090
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 4: you have no control about how people are going to

1091
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 4: react good, bad in between. They hate it whatever, they

1092
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 4: love it if it explodes, you know. So you have

1093
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 4: to as an artist because dude, I could still be

1094
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 4: working on this record and fine tuning it and drive yourself,

1095
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 4: you know, and like, oh I wrote another song, let's

1096
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 4: add to it like I can. You could do that

1097
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: for days, you know what I'm saying. So there comes

1098
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 4: a point where you have to really just like, Okay,

1099
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 4: this thing's done. Whatever happens happens. I hope it's positive.

1100
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 4: I hope. I hope it's great. I hope it helps

1101
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 4: my career. I hope it continues to build my fan base.

1102
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 4: I hope they can relate to it.

1103
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, But being this your second solo album, what is

1104
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: the feeling of going into the second one as opposed

1105
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: to going into the front like the first solo album

1106
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: after FGL, like playing stadiums all that. Yeah, now you're

1107
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: in a solo act and you're putting out the first album,

1108
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: but the same nerves still they are putting this one

1109
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: out that comes out Friday.

1110
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess a little bit.

1111
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: You know.

1112
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 4: I just think of these the two projects that I

1113
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 4: have so differently, you know, like it was all fun

1114
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 4: in Games and it was it was such a passion

1115
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: project and such a release for me to put time

1116
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 4: and time into songwriting and making that first record Sunshine

1117
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 4: State of Mind. Obviously COVID weird times is like, yeah,

1118
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 4: I'm writing songs, man like that that helps me. And

1119
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 4: so uh, this time this go around, you know, we

1120
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 4: don't have any FGL dates on the books, Like there's

1121
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 4: no foreseeable future for for the group, and so I

1122
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 4: consider Tennessee Truth, you know, my debut record. There's you know,

1123
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: it's the first. It's the first project where I'm standing

1124
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 4: as a as a solo artist with a career, not

1125
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 4: just trying to have an extra outlet that doesn't compete

1126
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 4: with f g L if that makes sense. So, like

1127
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 4: I said, man, everything along along the way from me

1128
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 4: has been methodical and very intentional and trying to be

1129
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: as respectful to the fans and the brand that we

1130
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: built as as as much as I could.

1131
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: What first off, Tennessee truth is a dope name.

1132
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 4: That's a minute you said almost named it Tennessee tone.

1133
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: Tennessee tone, truth made.

1134
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 4: Wanes, It's truth.

1135
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 1: You're right sweety stairs at a paper for three hours,

1136
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: just walks that one keeps walking over writing songs. When

1137
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: did you find that passion as a kid as you

1138
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: got older? Like what made you know that? Oh shit,

1139
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: I can I got like doing this? Only do I

1140
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: like doing this? This can be something for me?

1141
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be. I mean I started writing poems

1142
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 4: like in high school, freehand, like trying to figure out

1143
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 4: if I could turn it into a song. You know,

1144
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 4: it's like right before I started playing guitar. But I

1145
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 4: remember like writing out like lyrics or words, and I

1146
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 4: always like poems growing up. And my dad loves like

1147
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 4: little sayings and poems and he'll make things rhyme, and like,

1148
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 4: you know, I was always the guy looking up songwriters

1149
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: and the you know, CD covers and like oh snap,

1150
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 4: that's Craig Wismer, that's Jeffrey Steele, or that's you know,

1151
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 4: Tony Ratta. All you know, I was very in the

1152
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 4: know of what a songwriter was, and you know, got

1153
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 4: a guitar when I was about sixteen years old at

1154
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: a flea market with my dad. And uh, it didn't

1155
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 4: start hitting heavy till freshman year at Florida State. You know,

1156
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 4: I was writing songs during class, like I didn't need

1157
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: to party.

1158
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: What's that between party Florida State?

1159
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 4: You know, you know, surprising shock her. I really didn't

1160
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 4: party at Florida State.

1161
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: But you have a gold chain on that has a

1162
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: bass on it, you party number one?

1163
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 4: It's a tarpin.

1164
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: Disrespect. You know.

1165
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 4: I did more worship leading at Florida State than partying.

1166
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: Really, Oh yeah, no ship, Yeah, all right, that's nothing

1167
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: but the Tennessee truth right there.

1168
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 4: No, I really, I really didn't. I really didn't partake

1169
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 4: and uh at Florida State for my two years there.

1170
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: That is wild. So Florida State is when you found like, okay,

1171
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: this is what I want.

1172
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't stop thinking about songs and

1173
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 4: I'd get a title that pop in my head and

1174
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 4: class and like at that point, I didn't even need

1175
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 4: a guitar. I could write out the lyrics, I could

1176
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 4: hear how it could go. I'd get home, get my guitar,

1177
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 4: put it on my little you know, I had a little,

1178
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 4: uh little shitty recording program my roommate had given me

1179
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 4: so I could get it down, so I like could

1180
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 4: have it forever and remember that, you know, you.

1181
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: Still have it.

1182
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 4: No, it was on my old Dell computer. I have

1183
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 4: no freaking idea where it was a block, man, I

1184
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: mean it was it was, it was a block. I

1185
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 4: have no idea. I mean it may be in a

1186
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 4: storage unit. I've looked for it.

1187
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: That's mine. Give it back.

1188
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: But obviously you're you're a natural writer. But get like

1189
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: you were saying earlier, this you feel like this is

1190
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: your debut solo album. What what is this album you

1191
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: know mean to you? And also like what have been

1192
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: the learning curves with kind of getting back to the

1193
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: basics even though you naturally are a writer, Like being

1194
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: solo on your own.

1195
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 4: This record means a lot to me. You know, it's

1196
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 4: it's a songwriter's album. I'm so grateful for all the

1197
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 4: collaborators and songwriters and being able to you know, mend

1198
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 4: our worlds together and find something that we all love.

1199
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 4: That that means a lot to me too, and that

1200
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 4: hopefully you know, people that listen to it, they're like Yo,

1201
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 4: that's my life too. It's a simple record, man, like

1202
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 4: I love. You know, I have a song called bare

1203
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 4: Feet or Boots, and that's the lifestyle I live. Man.

1204
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 4: You know, like I love. I love being on the farm.

1205
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 4: I love being in the woods. I love being at

1206
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 4: the beach. I love being in the backwaters the lake.

1207
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1208
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 4: I you know my morals and the way that I

1209
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 4: operate or you know, God, family, country, and I love

1210
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 4: working hard. I love having something to look forward to,

1211
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Just like the people that

1212
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 4: are going to be listening to this man, you know,

1213
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 4: my world revolves around you know, working hard, my wife,

1214
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: creating time for us to make new memories. And you know,

1215
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 4: like what's what's biting? All right? Well, we're actually in Florida.

1216
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 4: I'm checking my bass, you know, app I'm hitting some

1217
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 4: of the locals. What are you know, snapper biting yet?

1218
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: Snapper season? How many? How many can we get? Now?

1219
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 4: You know what's you know on my little trail cam?

1220
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 4: You know, oh damn, there's a turkey, there's a deer.

1221
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 4: You know, that's it's a It's a pretty simple life

1222
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 4: that you know, I know we've come from, you know,

1223
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 4: stadiums and arenas and all these things. But when you

1224
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 4: strip it down, you know, me and Brittany are really simple, man,

1225
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: Like our favorite nights are. You know, I've had quite

1226
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 4: a few Friday nights at the house, you know, since

1227
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 4: starting his solo career and writing for the record. You know,

1228
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 4: I really wasn't on the road. I was home a

1229
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 4: lot writing and so we had a lot of free

1230
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: you know, weekends and Friday nights. It's like, yo, dogs

1231
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 4: are hanging out, We're cooking some meals and I'm watching

1232
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 4: freaking twenty twenty. You know what I'm saying, Like, I

1233
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 4: love that.

1234
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: Well, there's a vacancy out there. I don't know if

1235
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: you heard, but the great Toby Keith just passed. And

1236
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: when you hit me with a god Family Country thought

1237
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: he could be the next to Keith. You should be

1238
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: the next guy red solo Cup.

1239
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: You tell you just one to get into some twenty twenty.

1240
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: I've never watched. I've never binged that shit.

1241
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna help solve a crime one day. Oh you,

1242
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that guy, it's happening.

1243
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: Those shows are incredible.

1244
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 4: It may be a cold case, it may be a

1245
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 4: current you know, new one I'm.

1246
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: Freaking the murder mystery stuff. Dude.

1247
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: I had to sit in a deposition the last two days,

1248
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: no way, and uh, just hearing these lawyers talk, I

1249
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: found out there's no way I could help you a lawyer.

1250
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: We we would go in and they would just be

1251
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: talking back and forth, and then we'd go into a

1252
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: room and I'm like, Okay, tell me everything that just happened.

1253
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: Because you're literally like a six year old watching like

1254
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: cloud out lists or something like that, not even able

1255
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: to register how smart these individuals are. So all that

1256
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: to be said, I would never be able to solve

1257
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: a case. It ain't happening for me. Brother, I'm not

1258
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: putting anybody in jail.

1259
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: Important question for you. Are you a beach or a

1260
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: lake guy? Oh?

1261
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did because you heard your name the Yeah,

1262
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: this is.

1263
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: A big one on the bus.

1264
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 4: You know our place in Florida. We don't live on

1265
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 4: the beach. We live like right off the beach. We

1266
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 4: live on a coastal dune leg so pretty special little

1267
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 4: spot kind of surrounded by the state park. So honestly,

1268
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 4: really both because the stand and pick one, you have

1269
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 4: to well, look, we all enjoy you know what I'm saying,

1270
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 4: so what do.

1271
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: You enjoy more?

1272
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: If you had to pick on activity, you got one

1273
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: more day at the beach house, you your kids are

1274
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: sitting there. It's split fifty fifty down the middle. You

1275
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: can either go sand ocean waves life, sea life, or

1276
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: you can go over here, woods, boat, wakeboarding, those types

1277
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: of things. Which one are you picking?

1278
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 4: Man, If it's going as what we call down in

1279
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 4: Greaton beach. If it's going off in Greaton, which means

1280
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 4: the golf is laid down, freaking teal blues. Look, it

1281
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 4: looks like a lake. It's flat, weather's freaking popping. We're

1282
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 4: going to beach day. We're getting the truck out there,

1283
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 4: we can drive on the beach. I'm getting all my coolers,

1284
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 4: I'm getting my umbrellas, I'm getting my chairs. We're having

1285
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 4: a beach freaking safari. That's how that's I've had some

1286
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 4: of my best days doing that with Brittany and some

1287
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 4: of our friends. We have a lot of local friends.

1288
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 4: And I mean just watching the day go by. I mean,

1289
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 4: and and once you get out there, I mean like

1290
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 4: some days you can get out there and it's just

1291
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 4: like a vibe day. But some days, you know, you

1292
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 4: can fish right off the beach. Stick your pole in.

1293
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 4: You may not catch anything if they're not biting. But

1294
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 4: just lots of activities.

1295
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: You know, there's ane.

1296
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 4: Put the stand up paddle boards on the top of

1297
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 4: the truck, get them out to the beach, go out

1298
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 4: in the gulf. I mean, I knew we get there, bro,

1299
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 4: I got you. I can take you on.

1300
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: I think the beach guy, he's becoming more of the

1301
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: beach guy.

1302
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: I did say the better day is a perfect beach

1303
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: day based on this where we're at in the Bahamas,

1304
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it was fucking where we name a couple

1305
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: of spots? Is it?

1306
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 4: Where is it like a discovery property?

1307
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means. It was nice,

1308
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: it was it was in a nice spot. Nice Was

1309
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: it a zooma? I think at zooma? Damn it a

1310
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 2: nice spot. And they're like I was telling JP, we

1311
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: went out there on the boat one day and you

1312
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 2: you like pulled up on a sand dune and the

1313
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: water is like this high on your shin and you're

1314
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: just out like in the middle of the water on

1315
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: a sand dune and it was yours running around like

1316
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: it was. It was one of the things where he says,

1317
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: teal blue flat. Nothing going on here, I said, I said,

1318
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: the best beach day and vibe has beats best the

1319
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: best lake day vibe. But as far as average, what

1320
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: I like to do the majority of my time, I

1321
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: think a lake. I'm a lake boy.

1322
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: That's how will works. You gotta it's a slow It's

1323
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: been like a three year conversation, this lake versus beach saying,

1324
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: it's been like a three and slowly. I'm a beach guy.

1325
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: I think the culture of a beach. You walk around literally,

1326
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: you could be as stress as you possibly could be

1327
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: in your entire life. The minute you step put your

1328
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: toes in the sand and you're looking at the water

1329
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: and you just see people just relaxing and knowing that

1330
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: I might have problems but not today. That is what

1331
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: a beach brings.

1332
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 4: That sounds like sowriter.

1333
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: You're welcome, so you can have that.

1334
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 4: You can know what I'm thinking at point.

1335
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: That's mine.

1336
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 4: We should do a little beach trip. Okay, y'all come down.

1337
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 4: We could do one more pod, have some fun right

1338
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 4: on the beach and then just kind.

1339
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: Of that could are we going to be on a boat?

1340
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: We could?

1341
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 4: Oh?

1342
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: Bro, Yeah, I'm just saying, you know, a big boat guy,

1343
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: big boat guy.

1344
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we like to walk around it and press

1345
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: the buttons.

1346
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: A superhero like flying at the tip.

1347
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 4: I got you great and beach. You can launch the

1348
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 4: captain's launch to go fishing right off the beach. They

1349
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 4: backed their boats up, PLoP them out, and you don't

1350
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 4: got to go far to catch fish.

1351
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: Then we come back to get your tarping down.

1352
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: We can all have chance at the end. I know

1353
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: that thing does go hard, though. I know I chirped

1354
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: it a little bit, but I kind of I kind

1355
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 1: of mess with it, you know, dude.

1356
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 4: I got this from I've made some really good friends

1357
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 4: in Grand Junction, Colorado. It's a it's a family jeweler,

1358
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 4: three generations, and the son, the younger son, does a

1359
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 4: lot of cool free form gold work. I was there

1360
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 4: in person years ago on a tour stop. I wandered

1361
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 4: in there, found a really cool ring and we kept

1362
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 4: a relationship every since. They've sent me some free things

1363
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 4: that they've made for me and Brittany, and then I

1364
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 4: bought some stuff from them and I just was like, man,

1365
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 4: can you make a tarpin with like a little diamond

1366
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 4: eye and yeah, you know, just something something cool. And

1367
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 4: he's like, hell, yeah, can I bring it to you

1368
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 4: at your at your All show in Vegas. I'm like yeah.

1369
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 4: He's like, man like, I'm not gonna mail it, but

1370
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 4: can I come to the show and drop it off.

1371
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, buddy, yeah, that's a good trade off.

1372
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I'm good buddies with them. They're great people.

1373
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 4: They're living the American dream, working hard, making some really

1374
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 4: cool pieces. Man's and their family tradition.

1375
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: That when it's all said and done, you decide to

1376
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: hang up the guitar.

1377
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: Where do you?

1378
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: Where do you see your life? Even be at that

1379
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: beach house? Twenty four to seven? You head West Coast?

1380
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: What you gonna do?

1381
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 4: Uh? Not the West Coast. I do love. I do

1382
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 4: love the West Coast. I think there's some great spots,

1383
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 4: but for you full not full time, not like not

1384
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 4: full time. I mean I definitely love That's that's nice.

1385
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Arizona.

1386
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 4: You know, I could see. I love where we're at

1387
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 4: in Florida. I mean I don't I don't ever imagine

1388
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 4: us really leaving there. I could see I have a

1389
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 4: vision of like a you know, kind of an old

1390
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 4: Florida farm maybe maybe more like Central Florida, you know,

1391
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 4: like ranch style. I have an idea to h you know,

1392
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 4: open this thing where it's like it's called Good Shepherd Ranch.

1393
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 4: So we have German shepherds. We have four love shepherds.

1394
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 4: But basically it'd be like, you know, try to find

1395
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 4: a good deal on a bunch of acreage, have a

1396
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 4: little house there, and be able to you know, rehabilitate shepherds,

1397
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 4: take shepherds in that need a home, maybe foster some

1398
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 4: raise some up. And then I think it'd be really

1399
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 4: cool too. Man. There's kind of another element that I've

1400
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 4: really been kind of thinking about lately to where you know,

1401
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 4: maybe maybe some kids that don't have a family system

1402
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 4: that something like I grew up and I'm very grateful

1403
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,959
Speaker 4: for my mom and dad and and you know, maybe

1404
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 4: that's something they could come to Good Shepherd Ranch and

1405
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 4: we can work with dogs, kind of some dog therapy

1406
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 4: and that you know, maybe I can rub off on

1407
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 4: them a little bit in terms of like whatever they're

1408
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 4: going through and how to deal with things and how

1409
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 4: to you know, maybe maybe some life advice or some

1410
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 4: if they want to get into music, maybe there's a

1411
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 4: little studio on the property, but something that's something that's

1412
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, giving back, and also that has

1413
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 4: a lot of dogs on it.

1414
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 2: You love inside dogs.

1415
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are.

1416
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: It's shutters.

1417
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 4: It's their house shutters.

1418
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: Big time.

1419
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: You let them on the couch, you let them look

1420
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: your face.

1421
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, only two of them, the sisters. Man,

1422
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 4: if they've been outside, you better watch it. You'll smell

1423
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 4: it before it comes. But they they they like to

1424
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 4: eat the poop poo.

1425
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: You got two boy dogs, two girl dogs, one.

1426
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 4: Boy, three girls. But we have sisters, littermates smoking sage

1427
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 4: and for some reason.

1428
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 2: Smoke Smoke can't stand her.

1429
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the worst kind of dog husky wife, good

1430
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: shepherd ranch. Man, Yes, she could go and I'll.

1431
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 2: Just forget to Tail would love good shepherd ranch.

1432
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. The whole time you're talking, I'm thinking of myself.

1433
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: Tailing is going to hear this.

1434
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 2: Taylor was into it and then you started mentioning fostering

1435
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 2: and he just started to have like PTSD.

1436
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm looking after bunnies right now.

1437
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 4: I would I wouldn't know what to do with bunnies.

1438
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 2: Dude.

1439
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 1: My wife, she's trying to be a wildlife rehabilitationist. Or

1440
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: whatever it is. She's like getting certified for it sounds

1441
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: cool on paper. And then we get four bunnies because

1442
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: he tells me that, I'm like, bro, if we can

1443
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: get a raccoon or like a baby skunk, that would

1444
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: be hype.

1445
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: A baby skunk.

1446
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, they don't get their they don't get their

1447
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: smell thing until like two years old, so they kind

1448
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: of just chill and hang out. And I'm thinking, we're

1449
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: gonna get some dope animals. I think they'll bunnies over

1450
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: at us. We got bunnies. I got two of them

1451
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: that just sit outside, hang out. They bite or they

1452
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: know they're like they're literally, dude, they're this bag. They're

1453
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: this bag, and I have to bottle feed them every night,

1454
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: every night and every morning. And it just pissed right

1455
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: because it's some time with my wife being like, honey,

1456
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: I want to do something, Yeah, you go ahead and

1457
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: do that. I love that and I support you whatever

1458
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: you want to deal. But then one night, kids have

1459
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: a hard night. I come downstairs. I'm ready for bed.

1460
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: If I'm a guy, like the minute the kids go

1461
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: to sleep, I'm trying to get to sleep by nine thirty.

1462
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: If I get to sleep by nine thirty. My life's

1463
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: gonna be great the next day. And that's really all

1464
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about. Same and she's it's like nine to fifteen.

1465
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: She's like, I gotta feed the monies. That's an hour. Okay,

1466
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 1: that's an hour of my life that I got to now.

1467
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: Luckily they're getting older.

1468
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 2: So she says that, what do you say. You're like, damn,

1469
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 2: that sucks.

1470
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: No, No, you know me, dude, I fucking bend the

1471
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: knee quick quick.

1472
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: Oh.

1473
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean I have an attitude. I have like a

1474
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: teenage attitude, and that I go and do what I'm

1475
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. I have a bad attitude and

1476
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: then I do it.

1477
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 2: Just kind of stop around, go to bed, kind of man.

1478
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 4: Good Shepherd Ranch sounds like it could be what we

1479
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 4: talked about the ranch, or it could be like it's

1480
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 4: like total Hallmark movie. Yeah, good Shepherd Ranch.

1481
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:55,839
Speaker 2: I could see the sunset.

1482
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like this crazy He meets a city

1483
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: girl exactly, they don't belong together, exactly, maybe steal something

1484
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: from her, steals her purse, runs over to the guy.

1485
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: That's how they meet. Dog's cute, he's cuter. What's gonna happen.

1486
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: Damn, the boy will just get going now, like to

1487
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: create an entire movie.

1488
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 1: I do enjoy living in my own head. What my

1489
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: wife wants to do. She wants to get a farm

1490
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: and then have a grocery store attached to the farm

1491
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: and everything comes from there. It's like her next dream

1492
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: that she wants to do.

1493
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: Which I is that what it is?

1494
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

1495
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a slaughterhouse.

1496
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 2: Slaughterhouse?

1497
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: Yah.

1498
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1499
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: Ours is kind of like a like we would have

1500
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: to like ninja smoke them, like go to the cat

1501
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: slaughterhouse and then just you know, get them down.

1502
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably do that, not that.

1503
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1504
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're trying to precureus a couple of things. Yeah yeah.

1505
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 2: She Uh Bar three Studios, she's a franchise operation. She's

1506
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: manager for Bar three. It's like a boutique fitness nice.

1507
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: It's like Taylor toward women. It's like Pilates group fitness

1508
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: type of vibe. And uh, she's been in that industry.

1509
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: She's been with that company for a while now and

1510
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 2: a couple there's an opportunity that popped up in Nashville.

1511
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 2: That's right now. We are in the in the middle

1512
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: of trying to Oh she would like to be a

1513
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 2: business owner.

1514
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, it's awesome.

1515
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, get that. What's up?

1516
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: Let me get it on it, Taylor.

1517
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 4: I got a question for you.

1518
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

1519
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 4: So when you see when you do these ice baths,

1520
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 4: So say you're you're in Vegas. I've seen you do

1521
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 4: ice baths in Vegas when you're out there, you know,

1522
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 4: playing blackjack and stuff. For some reason, I can't wrap

1523
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 4: my head around because it's in the hotel room, the

1524
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 4: ice bath, right where does how do you how do

1525
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 4: they get the water out in the hotel room.

1526
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: That's the best part about Red Rock. I don't know, dude.

1527
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: Red Rock is the greatest like hospitality place I've ever

1528
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: been in my entire life. I've been to BlackBerry farms,

1529
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: I've been to really nice places. The hospitality of Red

1530
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: Rock is second to none. I told them one time,

1531
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: hey be cool to have a cold tub in my room.

1532
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: The next time I came there, there's a cold tub.

1533
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: They refeel the ice. I spill everywhere. I don't claim

1534
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: it right myself. I'm a dirty boy. And then I

1535
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: come in. Everything's cleaned up, car, car, everywhere. It's it's unreal.

1536
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: So I don't have it's.

1537
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 4: Nuts too an answer, I'm curious.

1538
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 2: You get into black jack when you're out there in Vegas.

1539
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 4: I love that's that's really all I play. Really, Yeah,

1540
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 4: I love black jack chaos due. I really enjoy it. Yeah,

1541
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 4: I've had some good nights in Vegas. Nothing crazy. I

1542
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 4: know there's like some other country artists that go freaking

1543
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 4: ham and that that they'll bet like a ton ton.

1544
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 4: I'm pretty conservative when it comes to you.

1545
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 2: Know, hy vibe.

1546
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 4: I made some pretty good money, but like I kind

1547
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 4: of I kind of start slow and then you know,

1548
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 4: I kind of I'm a I'm a feel guy, so

1549
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 4: like if I can kind of I get that from

1550
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 4: my dad too. You kind of feel what you're gonna get,

1551
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 4: you know. It's like if I feel like I'm about

1552
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 4: to get hot, like I'm a double down, double down.

1553
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 4: You figure out, figure out what you're gonna do.

1554
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: But what's been your best trip? How much? Yeah? How

1555
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 2: much you leave with?

1556
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 4: Probably fourteen k not like I know, y'all, y'all y'all

1557
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 4: go with Dana.

1558
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, but that's a cheap, like fourteen.

1559
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 1: Going home with fourteen is amazing.

1560
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're when I started.

1561
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 4: With like shoot, I started with like five or six hundred.

1562
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: That's just hit bro, just that, and.

1563
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 4: Then I'm like, all right, I can tell this ship's

1564
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 4: getting cold. I'm rolling.

1565
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: Really that's my problem.

1566
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: I feel like Jackal hits some looks like that. I

1567
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 2: think a few hundred and turn it into a few thousand.

1568
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: Yep there, Yeah, jack Will go crazy something.

1569
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 4: Man. It's a fun game when you got people you know,

1570
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 4: you know, and you have a have a drink whatever. Yeah,

1571
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 4: and it's like, I just I love that game. I

1572
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 4: really do.

1573
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: We would do on line trips and Will came on

1574
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: one one year and it was like five of us

1575
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: sitting at the table, two or three guys standing behind,

1576
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 1: just drinking drinks, all kind of like talking each other

1577
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 1: into betting a little bit more while so fe scared. Yeah,

1578
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 1: run the balls one hundred dollars, like, oh hey, we're

1579
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: throwing a hail Mary five hundred here on this one.

1580
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: And the boys just win or lose together. It's awesome.

1581
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1582
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: The world Will that I have gotten into has kind

1583
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: of been. It's a little it's much more scarier, there's

1584
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: a lot more room for error. It's often you all

1585
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: go there. I try to go every month, No, I

1586
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: try to go every single month, like truly have a

1587
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: I have like I have such an addictive personality and

1588
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: the minute I saw that this was possible, and then

1589
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: when I start to lose, how Danna kind of just

1590
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: saves me, like I'm a kid. It's no, there's no

1591
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: reason to never go there. It's it's ridiculous.

1592
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully we end up in Vegas together, because I'd

1593
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 4: love to play with y'all.

1594
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you you go to you take us

1595
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: to Florida. We hit that beach day. We have no

1596
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: choice but to get you to Vegas. Man, that sounds

1597
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: like a good deal.

1598
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing. June twenty sixth, but

1599
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: you could come watch the Beer Games Championships of the World.

1600
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Well, June twenty fifth, June twenty fifth,

1601
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: that's what Big Cat was talking about.

1602
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: June twenty fifth. It's on a Tuesday.

1603
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: You should actually come June twenty Yeah, June twenty.

1604
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 2: Fourth, June twenty fourth, some more game one.

1605
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're doing the Tunnel of Chaos. We have

1606
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: a big party in the high Roller Room of Red Rock,

1607
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: and then it's gonna be like food, drinks, people gambling whatever,

1608
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: a little tunnel where there's gonna be one table with

1609
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: just one betting platform, where that's a tunnel of chaos.

1610
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 1: You it'll be. It's gonna be a nuts time.

1611
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 2: Geld you the info.

1612
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Monday. Yeah, it's a Monday because we

1613
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: it's all tailored around people that are kind of in

1614
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 1: your category, who are like travel Thursday to Sunday.

1615
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1616
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we want everybody to kind of come

1617
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 1: and have their schedule be as open as possible.

1618
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, what uh? What can we look forward to

1619
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 2: this year after the album drops tomorrow? Oh?

1620
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 4: Man, I got some I got some festivals this summer.

1621
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 4: I'm really excited about that. I already played Tortuga a

1622
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,839
Speaker 4: couple of weeks back. That was like an awesome festival

1623
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 4: right on the beach. Very fitting, uh for for what

1624
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 4: I do, and I think I'm gonna bring back. I

1625
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 4: did this in twenty twenty two. I did like a

1626
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 4: mini residency. I did probably twenty six twenty seven shows.

1627
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 4: But we have a little surf shop we own down

1628
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 4: in Grayton where we live, and we kind of converted

1629
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 4: the backyard space into a little concert venue and so real,

1630
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 4: real intimate maybe two hundred people max a night, So

1631
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do probably, I think right now we've got

1632
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 4: it at twelve shows, you know, a couple in June,

1633
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 4: couple in July. So really looking forward to that, man.

1634
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 4: I know, I know the fans that came the first

1635
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 4: time had a great time, and it's kind of a

1636
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 4: power acoustic set but really casual, really intimate, really stripped down,

1637
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 4: and it's you know, I really loved it, man, because

1638
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 4: you know, it was an experience that I was able

1639
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 4: to create that didn't exist. You know, I think that

1640
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 4: was that was that was really enjoyable too. You know,

1641
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 4: I love playing all sorts of venues. I love you know,

1642
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 4: it's fun to play go back and play small clubs.

1643
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 4: It's great to do that. Fun obviously to play big,

1644
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 4: big you know arenas, amphitheaters all that, but to really

1645
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 4: connect and you know, a two hundred person uh space, man,

1646
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 4: is like, I don't know, I feel like I got

1647
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 4: my chops up even more when I did that, man,

1648
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 4: because you kind of put yourself in a position to

1649
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 4: where it's so personable and personal that you've got people

1650
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 4: there like, hey, play play this song. You're like sick,

1651
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 4: all right, yeah, calling out something from the record that

1652
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 4: maybe wasn't on the set list, but you're really able

1653
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 4: to connect. And you know, that's what Brittany and I

1654
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 4: love about, you know, being entrepreneurs and creating things is

1655
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 4: like trying to figure out it's all about the experience,

1656
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and to offer something different

1657
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 4: that doesn't exist really really gets us excited. And yeah,

1658
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 4: so I'm excited about that. And then this fall probably

1659
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 4: some more touring, trying to get the logistics locked down

1660
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 4: for that. But that's awesome, man, I'm excited about I know,

1661
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 4: I got obviously a record coming out, but I'm really

1662
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 4: looking forward to getting back in the studio and writing

1663
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 4: and seeing what what else we can come up with.

1664
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 1: Is that A number one passion is the writing part.

1665
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 4: Uh, it is. I mean, it's one of my main things.

1666
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 4: But I don't think I could have have it without

1667
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 4: the other part, you know, Like I love writing and

1668
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 4: grinding and thinking and brainstorming and figuring out the freaking

1669
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 4: details of the song and the message of the song

1670
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 4: and all that, even the production and love recording it,

1671
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 4: but the whole, the whole thing of getting it out

1672
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 4: on the road and playing playing live and doing that.

1673
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I could have one without

1674
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 4: the other.

1675
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man. Yeah, we appreciate you coming on.

1676
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 4: I appreciate you.

1677
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: And open, being honest and having a little fun too.

1678
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, damn good time.

1679
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1680
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 4: I appreciate the platform, and I thank y'all for answering

1681
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 4: the call and getting me on here, and I really

1682
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 4: appreciate it. Yeah, man, thanks for thanks for being open,

1683
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 4: being being willing to hear you know, my side and

1684
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 4: my experience, and hopefully for everybody listening. You know, I

1685
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 4: hope that has given some clarity.

1686
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1687
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, before we get out of here, going, I

1688
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: know you already talks about it. I plugged that new

1689
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: album real quick.

1690
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1691
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 2: Truth.

1692
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 4: Check out Tennessee Truth. It's a good time, and uh

1693
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 4: it's all about up a living, working hard, playing harder,

1694
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 4: and uh loving who you love. I hope you, uh

1695
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 4: hope y'all can make it the soundtrack to your summer

1696
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 4: and maybe your fall too. And I hope it. Hope

1697
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 4: these songs mean something to you, that mean a lot

1698
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 4: to me, and I hope you can figure out a

1699
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 4: way to put them in your everyday life, whether that's

1700
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 4: headed to work, or on the lake, on the beach, whatever.

1701
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tennessee truth is dropping tomorrow, which.

1702
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: Is what's the deal on?

1703
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 4: Thank you? May tenth, May night eighth, what's Friday?

1704
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the tent May tenth appreciate, thank you,