WEBVTT - #23 Big Time Dating 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.359 Help I suck at dating and I heart radio podcast. 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:09.360 What's going on, guys, James Maslow here? I thought i'd 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.000 jump on into the studio and help post the show today. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:18.880 Are we all doing doing well? Yeah? So this is 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.920 my friend over here. Also, I think officially my stalker. 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.800 This is like a weird, a weird relationship we have 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.760 because we share a best friend. And I never thought 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.519 my work world would come in contact with James, but 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.880 now I see him at literally every I heeart event 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.800 and it's starting to get like creepy. Yeah, that's that's 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:40.879 her side of the story. That's adorable. So she's been 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:45.680 stalking me now for what five or six years? Um, actually, 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.440 somehow now has a job working with me for the 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.760 first time. I'm I'm pretty highly concerned, but I'm gonna 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.520 shove that way down for this here podcast and we'll 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.360 talk about that later. No, it's great. So Christine is 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.279 like my little sister, and I'm so happy that you're 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.319 you're killing it. I'm happy to see you here. I'm 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.160 doing okay, I'm doing all right. We're a pretty fancy studio. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.200 We're actually talking about the niceties microphones, are you know? 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.760 It's a nice studio in a successful world and podcast 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:13.760 when the microphones are what gold plated, bronze plated, or 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.720 in an actual studio, not in somebody's kitchen, which is 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.920 still step up from somebody's basements. I don't know why 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.640 I made that creepy, but I just imagined a much, 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:28.840 much worse scenario exactly. All right, So this is fun. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:30.959 You know, of all the things I've spoken about, I've 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.560 never really gotten into my dating life, but of all 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.399 the times in my world, this is a really good 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.679 time to talk about it. Because I went from thinking 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.560 I would be perpetually single in this crazy town of 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.600 Los Angeles, and I was single for better part of 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.800 four years. Yeah, and not just single, I mean like 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:53.960 aggressively single, like super single, and those are core years, 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.160 your years to be single. I think that everybody at 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.520 all sincerity like your twenties are your time to be selfish. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:01.880 And I mean in the best of ways, because when 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.880 you get older, you only inevitably have more responsibility and 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.480 less opportunity to be selfish. And what I don't want 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.960 to be is that old dude in a relationship, serious 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.120 relationship that decides then, oh now is my time to 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.440 be selfish? No, I'd rather get it out of my system. 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.760 And boy, I got a lot out of my system. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.040 And recently I met uh, I met my girlfriend. Also, 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:21.840 let's not use that term too much. It is a 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.800 fair term, but it's new to me kind of scary. Um. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.839 But her name is Gabby and she's great and let's 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.120 move on. Who woa whoa wa wa wa move on. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.399 How have you used the word girlfriend with her? Well, yeah, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.640 I'm not gonna just drop it here. First, listen to 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:39.920 the show gabs it. Yeah, it was. We hadn't used it. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:43.560 We started dating like maybe two months. I really didn't 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.200 know where it's going, but I kind of fell into 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.639 dating right before it did Celebrity Big Brother. And then 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.120 after like six weeks two months of kind of dating, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.480 just disappeared for a month, which she reminds me of 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.959 pretty much every day. And that was actually a great 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.160 litmus test because both of us thought about each other 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.320 every day and when we came out, were like, sorry, 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.520 we didn't have this conversation before, but I really want 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.560 to date you. Let's make this official. And it was 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.640 super sweet and it's going well. And how did you 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.000 meet her in the first place? Through my friend Francesca. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.080 Props to Franny, thanks for that one. Oh a big time. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.720 I had a music video release party. Actually it was 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.720 for my song who Knows, and I just on a 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.840 really cool music video and so why not, you know, 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.600 excuse throw a little party and went out to I 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.880 think Delilah for drinks afterwards. Like the most l A story, 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.800 It's actually not the most l A story, so I'm 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.600 not talking about being like on dating app. We actually 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.280 met in person friends, so we did go to the 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.240 most l A spot in the world. Though after I look, 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.680 I'm a musician, I'm allowed have a music video. It's 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.640 like I live in l A too, so stop it, 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.720 stop it, stalker. And uh, anyways, frances just randomly hit 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:49.520 me up. I invited her out to come join and 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:53.520 she brought Gabby and the rest is history. And uh, 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:58.520 what was your first date? My first date? Uh after 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.200 that was actually going and meeting her for tea. Oh 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.320 tea is a nice first. It was early evening. It 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:08.960 was super early evening. Yeah, it was early evening tea. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.480 I think I had an early morning and also just 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:13.000 wasn't sure that I wanted to commit to like a 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.960 full fledged dinner as I think that's smart. A lot 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.440 of people say that you gotta coffee, drinks, tea something, 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.000 so there's an exit plan if necessary. Yeah, and also 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.039 to make sure that you can, you know, have a 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.400 great conversation, you know, because we met over a few drinks, 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:31.120 and funny enough, we met kind of talking about how 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.560 sloppy another person in our group was, and it was 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.600 just funny thing we're kind of talking, didn't know each other, 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.599 and it was after maybe five or tenminous conversation we 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.120 kind of look at each other like, you're really attractive. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.280 Started enjoying this conversation with this friend of a friend, 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.040 think it would be super casual, and then eventually was 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.640 like I enjoy lots of things about this and kept going. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.680 So I think the next the coffee tea was like 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.000 to make sure that that was real, and turns out 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.000 it was. And did the tea day extend from there? 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.279 Did you go get food? Did? Or did you exuly? 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.560 Just to keep it cool? Chapter cool? It went on 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.600 for longer than expect did? We hung out for maybe 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.240 a couple of hours when like a cute little walk 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:07.960 and I dropped her off and I thought, you know what, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.640 I don't want to ruin a good thing. Let's see 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.920 if this is good yet another time and space it out. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.599 So took it far more slow than I have anything 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.040 in a long time, and I think it's part of 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.920 the reason that it's it's working. Have you met her parents? 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:24.560 Have not yet? Have not, so that'll be uh, that'll 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.960 be a good steps still coming, but that's good. We're 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.640 glad you're happy. It's not rush, but that's kind of 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:35.599 marked things. So, yeah, we're planning a future with kids. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:44.200 No off my list. Then what kind of relationship advice 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.760 do you adhere to have you been given in your 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.960 life that you've really found connected and that you used 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.000 to this day. Yes, it depends on what type of 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.760 relationship you're looking for, because a lot of my buddies 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.680 have asked me a lot of dating questions, but it's 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.200 more about like, hey, how do we just met a 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.120 girl at a bar? And I think it depends on 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:04.520 what you're looking for. If you if you want to 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.559 just go and meet somebody and have fun, to have drinks, like, okay, 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.000 there's a way to do it without being a douche. Honestly, 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:11.599 there's a way to talk to somebody by just talking 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.520 to him. Don't start with a pickup line, just say hi, 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:15.919 like if you if anything, like hey, if they're out drinking, 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.800 can offer to be played by somebody a drink. But 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.480 when it comes actually dating someone, which once again is 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.360 a little bit not that I haven't ever dated somebody's 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.920 just been a while, I think it really is back 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.680 to communication. And so from the very get go, we 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.920 couldn't have been more blunt and honest about our previous relationships, 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.520 why it didn't work, what we would expect moving forward, 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.960 and we just kept aligning with with our thoughts and 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.400 our morals and how we wanted things to work out. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.440 So it almost started as like a joke because we 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.120 were so honest. But now we have this open line 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.640 of communication which is really awesome. So I know it's 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.560 it's a bit cliche, but you really have to tell 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.120 people how you feel when you feel it, and not 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.400 just let things pent up and become a fight, because 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.240 if you're fighting, I don't care how long the relationship 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.400 has been, like, there's just no reason for it. There's 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.320 no excuse. So I think it's just a slippery slope, 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:03.480 you know, I mean, because you fight once and it's 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:04.919 just the first time, and then your second is on 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:06.760 your second time, and eventually you're like that a couple 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.200 that fights. I never want to do that. So honestly, 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:14.680 it's openness. It's um talking about your exit. That's an 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.600 interesting thing because some people would say to stay away 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.960 from that, I think, but it's part of your past, 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.320 it's part of who you are. I mean, maybe don't 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.160 go in depth about it every time you go to dinner. Sure, 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.400 I could get awkward, but I think if you don't 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.080 ever cross those off the list of things that you 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.760 know about the person, then inevitably you're gonna be out 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.440 with their friends and they're gonna reference something, right, They're 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.600 gonna reference their friends passed, which is just relationship, and 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.920 all of a sudden you're the only person in the 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.960 dark and you're the one dating that person. Yeah. That's uncomfortable. Yeah, 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.560 and I think better to just know. So I think 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.400 you kind of just have to have those conversations and 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:48.200 you can call it a day after that. But if 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:49.800 you never do, then it's gonna come up in a way. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.200 I think that's gonna build up anxiety at the very least. Sure, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.960 you mentioned going up and meeting people, approaching people, you're 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:57.720 interested in. And we've had a lot of talk about 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.480 this lately, Tanya, especially if you know Tanya rad she 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:07.560 knows you. I don't know. She introduced it that I heard. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.240 She lives large on all these podcasts where she she's 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.640 in the room or not. She tried something recently. She 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.400 approached to got a grocery store and asked him what 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.760 his cologne was because she wanted something for her brother 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.360 to get a dialogue and actually wanted for her brother. Yeah, 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.160 I was just to get a dialogue going, so she lied. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.320 She lied didn't work anyway because she just he just 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.000 told her and moved on. He didn't continue the conversation. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.880 She had another one she wants to try. Yeah, so 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.360 her friend Becca and if anyone listens to scrubbing in 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.199 with Becca Tilly, you know this story. Becca was talking 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.880 to a hockey player on a dating app. The conversation 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.680 seemed a little shady, like maybe it sounds about right 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.880 really the hockey player, so she finds the hockey players 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.480 Instagram and DM Someone says, am I talking to you 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.000 on this dating app? Or am I being catfished right now? 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.680 And the hockey player said, you're being catfished? I'm not 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.480 on that app, but now they're talking, So Tanya wants 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.160 to approach you. Guys, just make that and say, hey, 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.119 am I talking to you? Or am I being catfish? 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.480 Just to get I can't wait till that doesn't work 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.960 either in the responses like I don't know we're talking, 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:10.360 like he really is on the app and he's just 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.960 a creeper. Sorry, I'm not projecting to Sania how it 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.320 works out for you. But so so, if a woman 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.280 wanted to approach you, obviously, now you're in a relationship 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.120 that's off lim with but six months ago, what is 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:21.880 the best way for a woman to approach a guy 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:26.920 that she's interested in? I think human being there's no 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.160 secret to it, guys, there's no like, hey say this line, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.000 or hey, like, well maybe first of all, don't start 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.679 by lying TONI um just say hi. You know what 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.400 I mean? It can be It can be very attractive 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:38.840 when the same thing I was saying earlier, like, hey, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:40.640 if you're out at a bar and you meet somebody, 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:42.320 often then buy them a drink. Women can do the 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.600 same thing, especially in today's day and age, and I 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.200 think it can be attractive when you do it in 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.640 a confident, cool way. I mean, part of it is 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.280 not attracted to Gabby is because she has her own 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.760 world going on, her own career, you know, I mean 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.760 she makes her own money. Now, I sot offer to 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.680 pay for everything, but then sometimes she just jump in 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.400 and grab coffees, grab drinks, which is awesome, you know 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:00.640 what I mean. And I don't think you should ever 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.000 be to one sided. I still I'm a gentleman, will 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.840 always offer to pay and never have a problem with it. 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.640 But it's attractive when you have that confidence. Was a 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.520 woman is the same thing. Just go up, say hi, 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.920 introduce yourself. Smile. I'm attracted to a smile first and foremost. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:14.640 I know it sounds scary, but it's scary for us 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.760 two girls, it really is. But like what, Hi, I America, 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:24.240 and then what they're like cool by then that's your 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:29.280 answer the dude and fantastic you've moved on. Okay, okay, 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.959 Hi America. You'd say Hi, I'm James, and then you 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.439 say oh, and then you talk, You talk like normal 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.719 normal people. Yeah, Hey, I'm here with my friends. You 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.319 guys want to come join us? Or hey, can we 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.160 get you around a drink? So whatever it is, I mean, look, 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.280 group setting are always easiest. It's definitely better than like 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:48.079 being solo. I guess which because that's a social setting. Yeah, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.120 that's a's a personal problem. I think we get a 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.720 lot of emails from people think, can I should I 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.680 ask this guy out? Should I approach him? Should I 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.600 call him? Should I text him? And we always say yes, 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.680 you have nothing to lose because you need to find 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.360 out what's going on, if there's anything there and if 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.559 there's not. Now, you know, I just don't see the 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.360 downside to it. I know it's nerve racking, but guys 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.840 these days are not being as aggressive as they used 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.800 to be. They're not asking as much as they used to, 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.040 so somebody has to well, of course, and I think 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:14.760 more than ever, you know what I mean, people are 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.319 unclear where the lines are and should be, you know 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.079 what I mean. And I think it's fair people afraid 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:21.800 to go up and say hi sometimes, especially as a 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.480 guy these days. So as a girl there's all that 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.160 more opportunity, you know, and the end of the day 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.760 kind of addressing that, it's like silly you can you 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.000 can flirt with anybody one time and if they reciprocate 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.600 it that's flirting. If they don't stop, it's pretty much 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.040 as simple as that. But you can complient somebody, Hey, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:39.640 I think you're beautiful, gonna do this, and if they 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.840 don't reciprocate it, maybe don't keep complimenting. I think you're 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.800 kind of done, but you just try it. And I 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.079 think that's less scary doing it in person and knowing 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:47.480 one way or the other this is I gonna move 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.320 forward or be done within five seconds. Then the idea 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.840 of being on an app and like essentially blind dating 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.560 somebody every time you meet up to me, that would 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.040 inspire far more trepidation than just meeting somebody in person 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.320 and going hey and sing if there's any chemistry at all, 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.400 it's quicker, it's more efficient. Give it a try, real 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:09.280 life guys, Try it out spoken by someone, right. I 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.040 think I have a little bit more credibility to this now. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.560 I love it. Can we talk about celebrity Big Brother 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.439 for a minute? Oh? We sure can. I've heard of 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.560 that show. You were on there and you actually give 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.959 it a run left episode? Yeah, I made it pretty 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.720 much all the way to the end. And you know, look, 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.160 I think had I changed my tactics and started making 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.160 alliances like with Omarosa for example, I could have stayed 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.360 in and maybe one, but to me, I had such 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.360 a good run. It was very important to me to 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:43.080 come out in an interesting environment, one that is incredibly 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.520 for to me, a reality TV show that at that, 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.440 and remain um, a class act as best as I 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.719 can come out being a gentleman, which to me is 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.720 kind of my version of being unscathed in what could be, 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.680 you know, a really catty situation. So I think of 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.480 getting out when I did was actually a pretty big 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.319 win for me. Like I said, winning it could have 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.000 been fun, but hey, I was the biggest target in 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.040 the house from day one, almost an even the show 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.480 will admit it, and that basically inspired the idea like, well, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.120 if I can turn this, if I cannot be out first, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.560 I can probably stay a long time. That was basically 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.440 my tactic throughout it. And it worked and it was 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.880 fun and I'm glad to be home. Would you do 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.880 it again? Like it was with that kind of a 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:27.880 one time experience? Most likely a one time experience, um, 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:29.679 but I'm always open minded, you know, if they came 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.400 back and it was a different situation or an all 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.559 star cast, and I had the time. You just never know, 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.000 but most likely that was what it was. And uh, 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.080 we'll leave it at that. What was the worst part 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.240 of it? I feel like there's to me that would 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.560 be a long lift. If the camera seven, there's certain 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.840 people who don't get along with, but you're with constantly, 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.319 you're having no son. As strange as that may sun 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.200 the regular Big Brother cast, Yes, it's three times as long, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.160 but they have a huge backyard and they have the sun. 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.080 And I'm I'm an outdoor dog. I'm a beach boy. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.480 I live in the beach. I grew up in San Diego, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.760 and so I didn't really realize how important just being 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.800 outside was to me. So I spent a month on 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.880 the sound stage where we had a tiny little backyard. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.840 We don't get it at nights, and it was covered. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:13.920 We'd never see the sun. That might have been the 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.080 hardest part. Wow, that's interesting. Who did you get close 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.920 the cat? I mean, look, especially at the beginning, it 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.720 was kind of the boys hanging with the boys, and 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.720 so hanging out with Mark McGrath, who had you know, 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.560 race cars with before, actually came much closer. He's such 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.640 a good guy. Meta world piece is Buddy to this day. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.080 He's the nicest, biggest teddy bear in the world, has 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.760 the craziest stories. You know, from being one of the 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.800 NBA's gnarliest defenders ever so then changing his name to 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:42.720 Meta world Peace and being like this big sweetheart than 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.960 like you know sometimes. I mean, look, it's the funniest situation. 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.480 He's great. Um Chocolate was my boy before, but then 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:52.200 became close with Channon. She's awesome, incredibly intelligent. Omar Rossa 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.960 is one of the most interesting people I've ever met. 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.840 I mean, Marissa was just texting me actually funny. Have 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:03.040 clips of celebrity Big Broad yesterday. Just spend a lot 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.720 of time with these people. So I became close with 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.000 most of the cast. Frankly, man of you kept in 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:09.720 touch with you said meadow world Pace. You're still in 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.960 touch with him. Yeah. We're supposed to go to a 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.360 Lakers game next week, which I'm pretty excited. Guys. I'm 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.840 not gonna lie. I can't one of the best players 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.040 in the game at that, you know what I mean, 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:23.920 So that'll be a lot of fun. Met if you're listening, 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.160 don't forget our plans to go to that Laker game. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.160 Offer and you get used to the cameras after a 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:32.400 while because they can't imagine that cameras they aren't bad, right, 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.240 even when you're asleep, there's a camera here, we look 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.440 they're they're basically two way mirrors. So you don't see 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.280 the cameras. You see some of them in the hallways, 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.400 but you don't see the majority of them. And said 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.880 you see reflection of yourself, So you become really vain 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:45.520 until you remember, like as you're picking that they get 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.200 your teeth. You gotta dude on your de side, most 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.680 likely just staring you down. So no, I always pretty 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.400 keenly aware that they were there at all times, because 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.680 you know, as much as I was myself and dropped 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.720 my guard to a point, there's always going to be 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.720 a bit me that's reserved when I'm on camera, even 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.960 in a situation like that, because you want to keep 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.280 a little bit of yourself to yourself. That makes sense. 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.760 And you and Brandy butted heads. But would you say 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:11.920 you didn't get as close with her or that was 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.440 at all water under the bridge. No, I think it's 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:18.240 fair insane didn't get as close with Brandy. Speaking about 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.840 being reserved, um, that was one of the biggest reasons 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.320 that I had to play docile if you will, because 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.680 I did had I had no intention of engaging with 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.560 a reality star like that. She was really the only one. 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.160 I guess Omarosa in a different way, the only that 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.080 came from a reality platform, which I've never understood. I've 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.040 never really watched, and I have no intention of being 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.280 and I'm my My career is just different. I grew 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.800 up training to be an actor. Still, that's what I 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.640 do to sing, That's what I do. Those are my 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:49.000 careers already do enough. Don't need to add being catty 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.800 on reality television over stupid things to that list, quite frankly. 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:54.920 So I'm happy for her that she's created a career 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:56.600 out of that, because that's such a unique thing to 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.760 be able to do. It's just not my cup of tea. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.120 When you're a real house if your skill is to 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:04.159 create drama and create interesting television, and you could easily 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.399 get sucked into that. Yeah, I think interesting television might 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.679 be where we differ an opinion, but yet to create 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.000 something to just create a big old mess at an 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:17.359 absolutely nothing for no reason. Um, that's what they don't know, 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.480 if I can say they that's what she does, and 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.600 she's good at that. I never want to be good 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.479 at that. And that's the nicest way I can put it, 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.679 because it was pretty annoying. I mean, she was just 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.679 poke and poke and poke and prime prian prior and 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:31.760 she's a freaking adult and I had to be the 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.160 adult in the situation every single time, which is fine. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.880 I'm twenty seven years old. I don't want to be 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.760 the adult in every situation, but in that case, no problem. 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.800 The example I want to set to my fans and 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.800 people who look up to me is that that's not 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.800 what you do. If you have a problem, talk about 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.040 it and don't instigate things for the sake of doing it. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.560 I really I was bullied as a kid. I will 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.760 always stand up to bullies. And the best way to 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.919 stand up to a bully like that is, you know, 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.920 just to not engage. We'll cool, cool, I guess it's. 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.240 Having said all that, if I saw Brandy, I'd give 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:03.879 her a hug. And you know, we've been out with 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.200 some of the casts and had some drinks, and she's 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.160 she is who she is through and through, and that's 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.040 where like that, That's who she is, and I'm accepting it. 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.200 To a point, you know what I mean. So that's 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.480 that's that. There we go. Yeah, that's the Brandy chet 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:22.040