WEBVTT - SYSK's 12 Days of Christmas… Toys: How Hot Wheels Work

0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:06.000
<v Speaker 1>A everybody chuck Here for another one of our Christmas

0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:08.960
<v Speaker 1>centric episodes with our twelve Days of Christmas Toys playlist,

0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.639
<v Speaker 1>and today I'm very pleased to introduce to you an

0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:14.840
<v Speaker 1>episode that I liked quite a bit because when I

0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.279
<v Speaker 1>was a kid, I love me some hot wheels, and

0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.240
<v Speaker 1>so this is that episode, How Hot Wheels Work. Pretty

0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.440
<v Speaker 1>interesting story. Hope you guys enjoy it.

0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff you should know from HowStuffWorks dot com.

0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's

0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Charles w Chuck Bryant, and Jerry.

0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.479
<v Speaker 1>You know that just sounded like, what like, that's what

0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:44.680
<v Speaker 1>happens like, You're having a nightmare and you MEI wakes

0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you up in the middle of the night and he

0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.199
<v Speaker 1>just goes, hey, welcome to the podcast, and then she

0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:49.560
<v Speaker 1>slaps you across the face.

0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Repart. That's true. Yeah, that is what that sounded like.

0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:56.280
<v Speaker 1>That's what it sounded.

0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.920
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty accurate. I don't know what got into me.

0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.920
<v Speaker 1>You were just supercharged about this topic.

0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's terrible. What supercharged?

0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it.

0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:10.320
<v Speaker 3>It's like a supercharged engine.

0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't even think about that.

0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh good, that makes me feel a little better.

0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know Jerry by the way before when I

0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.160
<v Speaker 1>told her what we were doing, so, oh my gosh,

0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that was my favorite toy when I was a kid.

0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Nice hot wheels are pretty great.

0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had quite a collection, and I don't know

0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:25.639
<v Speaker 1>where they are today.

0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh really they're missing? Huh.

0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know if they were thrown out, or

0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:35.960
<v Speaker 1>if if my brother has them, or they're my mom's

0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:37.800
<v Speaker 1>attic or what. Because I'm kind of curious that I

0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:38.480
<v Speaker 1>have any value.

0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.360
<v Speaker 3>You need to find them. Yeah, they could be apparently,

0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.840
<v Speaker 3>as far as hot wheels collectors go, it could be

0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.000
<v Speaker 3>in mint condition all the way down to beat condition.

0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh is that how they rank them? Yeah, mine would

0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.400
<v Speaker 1>be beaters because I played with them like crazy.

0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.040
<v Speaker 3>That's good. I mean, that's what they're for sure, you know.

0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.920
<v Speaker 3>And there's value for a beater too, like some people

0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:01.440
<v Speaker 3>apparently harvest them for parts to rebuild like a you know,

0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.720
<v Speaker 3>a new Frankenstein model.

0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh really, Yeah, that's pretty neat.

0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.000
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of stuff you can do with them.

0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:09.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we should thank the fifth grader who wrote

0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:10.679
<v Speaker 1>this article too.

0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:12.919
<v Speaker 3>Sad face.

0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I complained about that out loud to Holly. I was like,

0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:20.040
<v Speaker 1>this article actually says sad face like as a sentence.

0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know had issues. I'm glad you said something.

0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah what if it was a fifth grader? Your feelings

0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:29.919
<v Speaker 1>are all hurt.

0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.360
<v Speaker 3>I think your feelings are hurt either way. Now, sad face.

0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.800
<v Speaker 3>So we're talking about hot wheels today. I had a couple.

0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.440
<v Speaker 3>My favorite toy was g I Joe, but I appreciated

0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:43.919
<v Speaker 3>hot wheels.

0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had GI Joe too.

0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.680
<v Speaker 3>We do Gi Joe episode sometime. I had the older

0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.560
<v Speaker 3>ones though you probably had huge ones. Yeah yeah, now

0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:51.480
<v Speaker 3>I had the real ones.

0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, I don't that's fighting words.

0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Man. The ones that I had were so awesome. They

0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.639
<v Speaker 3>were like there was a huge, fast collection of all

0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.840
<v Speaker 3>of them. Yeah, there was like cobra. Cobra didn't exist

0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:06.320
<v Speaker 3>when you were collecting g I Joe's.

0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.360
<v Speaker 1>No, but how could you say, like, oh, that one

0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.720
<v Speaker 1>that's ten inches tall and has real clothes and fuzzy

0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.160
<v Speaker 1>hair and the kung fu grip is inferior to this

0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:17.119
<v Speaker 1>little plastic thing.

0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.840
<v Speaker 3>I think you just said it. All the fuzzy hair

0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:25.000
<v Speaker 3>says it right there. I don't really mean that, Chuck.

0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't have a dog in that fight. Like if

0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.119
<v Speaker 3>you like the big Gi Joe's. That's cool. I got

0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:30.720
<v Speaker 3>some problems.

0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a quick side note. I have to tell

0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.880
<v Speaker 1>this story, okay, when you know how he used to

0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.440
<v Speaker 1>do book reports and you would have to have a

0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.080
<v Speaker 1>visual aid. Yeah. I might have told this before. If

0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I do, I apologize.

0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:43.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't recognize it.

0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I did a report on Franco Harris when in elementary

0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:48.000
<v Speaker 1>school because he.

0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:49.040
<v Speaker 3>Was a football player.

0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know why I did on Franco Harris. Yeah,

0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.080
<v Speaker 1>but I got my mom to make me a little

0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers uniform for my Gi joe because he looked

0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>like Franco Harris.

0:03:59.000 --> 0:03:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Nice.

0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that was my visual aid.

0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:01.240
<v Speaker 3>Do you still have it?

0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.280
<v Speaker 1>No, of course not. We have the Gi Joe's, but

0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I think the Steelers uniform is gone. Bye bye.

0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.880
<v Speaker 3>That's said. Yeah, you know, I'm sure your mom put

0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:14.600
<v Speaker 3>a lot of work into that. Now I feel guilty, So, Chuck,

0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I have a question for you. Yes, did you know

0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.720
<v Speaker 3>that the number one vehicle manufacturer on the planet is,

0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.839
<v Speaker 3>in fact Hot Wheels. I did it. Kind of It's

0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.000
<v Speaker 3>astounding until you stop and think about it. Sure, like

0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.880
<v Speaker 3>apparently since nineteen sixty eight, when Hot wheels were first introduced.

0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.760
<v Speaker 3>More than four billion hot wheels have been produced. That's

0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:41.960
<v Speaker 3>more than the big four Detroit automakers combined. You're like wow,

0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.880
<v Speaker 3>and then you think, oh, yeah, it costs a minute

0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.920
<v Speaker 3>fraction of the costure to build the hot wheels and

0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:50.559
<v Speaker 3>it does a normal car.

0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.919
<v Speaker 3>Plus, Also, it's not like you're gonna go, I want

0:04:54.920 --> 0:05:02.120
<v Speaker 3>this Buick Cutlass Supreme in every color, right, you know, Well,

0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:03.440
<v Speaker 3>the hot wheels you can do that.

0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What's the Lego stat is? They're the biggest manufacturer

0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:07.160
<v Speaker 1>of tires?

0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wonder though, do these not count as tires

0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.039
<v Speaker 1>because they're plastic they counts wheels?

0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man, because.

0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Four billion times four that's sixteen billion tires.

0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:20.560
<v Speaker 3>That's a really great question.

0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I might have to challenge Lego or maybe just look

0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.160
<v Speaker 1>up how many tires they manufacture.

0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Old Kirk Christensen is not going to be happy about this.

0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.839
<v Speaker 3>Who was that the founder of Lego? Oh remember Old?

0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, I thought you were saying Old no over.

0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, So.

0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about the history of this stuff.

0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Huh okay.

0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.080
<v Speaker 3>So hot wheels, like I said, have been around since

0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.799
<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty eight and Anybody who's heard the Barbie Trademark

0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:52.960
<v Speaker 3>podcast will recognize the name Elliott Handler. That's Ruth Handler,

0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:58.760
<v Speaker 3>the inventor of Barbie Trademark's husband. Sure, and Elliott apparently

0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:05.120
<v Speaker 3>saw a real chance to muscle in on an already

0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:09.719
<v Speaker 3>extant market by a company called Tycho that had a

0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.400
<v Speaker 3>line of miniature metal cars die cast cars is what

0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.479
<v Speaker 3>they're called, called Matchbox cars.

0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:15.960
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.599
<v Speaker 3>By the time hot wheels came around, match Box was

0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.440
<v Speaker 3>already there and had established a market, and Mattel said,

0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:23.760
<v Speaker 3>let's get in on that.

0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the rumor is that he saw his grandchildren

0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:31.320
<v Speaker 1>playing with them and said, they kind of stink. I

0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.000
<v Speaker 1>could make these better, yeah, cooler, And he had a

0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.360
<v Speaker 1>as the story goes, had a designer, which we'll talk

0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.479
<v Speaker 1>about in the second called Harry Bradley Sure, and he

0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.479
<v Speaker 1>had a hot rod. And Elliott was in the parking

0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.160
<v Speaker 1>lot one day and said, man, those are some hot

0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:46.640
<v Speaker 1>wheels you got there.

0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.560
<v Speaker 3>And apparently if you go look look at the old

0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.320
<v Speaker 3>original commercials.

0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.400
<v Speaker 1>For hot wheels, did they say that.

0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.039
<v Speaker 3>That's how well, that's how they pronounced it hot wheels.

0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, instead of hot wheels.

0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, The emphasis is on the hot awkward. They're like,

0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:03.760
<v Speaker 3>race your hot wheels.

0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.479
<v Speaker 1>You can make some of them, you can race them.

0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Just go buy some hot wheels. That's what they That's

0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.480
<v Speaker 3>how they say it, collect all your hot wheels.

0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that makes more sense in the context of

0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a sentence.

0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:20.120
<v Speaker 3>It does having been raised right right, you know post

0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:24.000
<v Speaker 3>the in fact hot wheels is wrong. Yeah, hot wheels

0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:25.160
<v Speaker 3>because wheels.

0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm trying to picture the guy in the parking

0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.280
<v Speaker 1>lot saying those are some hot wheels you got on

0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:34.320
<v Speaker 1>your there? You'd say hot wheels, you got there? You know, Yeah,

0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.280
<v Speaker 1>oh boy, we can sure waste some time.

0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:38.960
<v Speaker 3>We sure can.

0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.360
<v Speaker 1>But the first nineteen sixty eight is, like you said,

0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:46.520
<v Speaker 1>when the first line came out of sixteen hot wheels,

0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.360
<v Speaker 1>they were sold initially for fifty nine cent apiece.

0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And like you said, the guy whose car originally

0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:59.440
<v Speaker 3>inspired the name hot Wheels was Harry Bradley, and he

0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:03.200
<v Speaker 3>was the designer of that first sixteen cars. They were

0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:08.600
<v Speaker 3>also called California Customs Miniatures. Was that first original sixteen

0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:13.480
<v Speaker 3>group of hot Wheels that were released in nineteen sixty eight. So,

0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.880
<v Speaker 3>and Harry Bradley designed them all, including apparently he got

0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.480
<v Speaker 3>his hands on The first one, by the way, that

0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.800
<v Speaker 3>came out was a Chevy Camaro, of course. The second

0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.560
<v Speaker 3>one that came out was the Chevy Corvette, of course,

0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:29.840
<v Speaker 3>And apparently the Chevy Corvette came out before the actual

0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Corvette came out.

0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the sixty nine Corvette.

0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.880
<v Speaker 3>That is so. Harry Bradley was an old hand in

0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.880
<v Speaker 3>not just miniature car design, but car design in general.

0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.520
<v Speaker 3>He was an old GM designer, and I guess he

0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:46.240
<v Speaker 3>had connections still at GM, and probably under the table

0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.520
<v Speaker 3>in a possibly illegal way, got his hands on the

0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.200
<v Speaker 3>blueprints for the Corvette that hadn't been released yet, and

0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Hot Wheels beat GM to the punch in releasing the

0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.760
<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty eight Corvette.

0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sixty nine, thank you, that's all right. The Yeah,

0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.160
<v Speaker 1>as the lore goes, he supposedly knew that the cafeteria

0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.880
<v Speaker 1>door was unlocked, so he snuck in through the cafeteria door.

0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.040
<v Speaker 3>But that's called industrial espionage.

0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sounds like a story like just lore, okay,

0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:20.840
<v Speaker 1>but maybe so maybe he committed industrial espian che. Yeah. So,

0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.400
<v Speaker 1>like you said, those were the two of the first

0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:29.839
<v Speaker 1>sixteen in that original lineup, that original collection, which if

0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.959
<v Speaker 1>you have any of those, Yeah, Okay, yeah, you got

0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:34.040
<v Speaker 1>some money that you're sitting on.

0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Because I mean, like they went all out on those

0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.320
<v Speaker 3>that original line oh yeah, Like there were bushings to

0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:45.480
<v Speaker 3>the suspension. Yeah, and the I mean the chassis it

0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.640
<v Speaker 3>had suspension like shocks, like you could press them down

0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:49.680
<v Speaker 3>and it would bounce back.

0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I had some of those. I don't think they were

0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.120
<v Speaker 1>from sixty eight. But when did they quit making those?

0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.800
<v Speaker 3>It set up until seventy seven was when they stopped making.

0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.600
<v Speaker 1>The seventy is when the suspension got an overhaul.

0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.839
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so for the first couple of years, like they

0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.360
<v Speaker 3>were really putting a lot into these things. The tires

0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:13.880
<v Speaker 3>were red line racing slicks, yeah, and the things. The

0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.439
<v Speaker 3>whole reason they went to so much trouble is because

0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:20.480
<v Speaker 3>they really wanted to destroy their competitor, match box. And

0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.320
<v Speaker 3>one of the ways they did that was by making

0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.440
<v Speaker 3>these things far more functional than the match boxes were.

0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:32.200
<v Speaker 3>The matchbox cars were, so they really could race. Yeah,

0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.360
<v Speaker 3>and if you put a matchbox car up against the

0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.439
<v Speaker 3>comparable hot wheels, say the same model car, the hot

0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Wheels will destroy it every time. And the head to

0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:41.920
<v Speaker 3>head race.

0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.240
<v Speaker 1>As we saw on the internet, a guy did that.

0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Of course, he took two Volkswagens and two OUTI eight's

0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I think, and one match box and one hot wheel,

0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and he said they won by at least a car

0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:58.040
<v Speaker 1>length every time he tried. And this was no loop

0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.440
<v Speaker 1>de loop bring things, was just the straight race. They

0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:05.080
<v Speaker 1>painted them originally in Spectra Flame, which was very shiny

0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and sparkly and expensive. And I don't think we said

0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.680
<v Speaker 1>that all hot wheels are built at one sixty fourth scale.

0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a big point.

0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.240
<v Speaker 1>But not necessarily all matchbox cars. They kind of vary

0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.960
<v Speaker 1>here and there, right, But like you said that Spectra

0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Flame and the red line tires didn't only last until

0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.920
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven, and the suspension only lasted untill nineteen seventy

0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and they sadly a lot of that had to do

0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.360
<v Speaker 1>with the fact that they moved them from Hawthorne, California

0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:39.240
<v Speaker 1>to Hong Kong. Yeah, And like any product, you're like, hey,

0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you can make it for half as much if you

0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.240
<v Speaker 1>make it in China, so let's move. Let's ship the

0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:45.600
<v Speaker 1>operations overseas well.

0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Not only that, it's this Spectra flame pain is pretty expensive.

0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.079
<v Speaker 3>It's awesome, it looks great, yeah, but it's pretty expensive.

0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:57.840
<v Speaker 3>So with any collector's item. As they started to downgrade

0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:02.240
<v Speaker 3>the components in the parts and the manufacturing and ultimately

0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.280
<v Speaker 3>the final product, all that did was make the original

0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.320
<v Speaker 3>stuff all the more valuable today, Yeah, because there was

0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.680
<v Speaker 3>fewer and fewer of those as the years go on,

0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.079
<v Speaker 3>proportionately speaking.

0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they had actual axles, like you know, it was

0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.000
<v Speaker 1>like a real They were designed by car designers and

0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.880
<v Speaker 1>they were made apparently to reach two hundred scale miles

0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:21.280
<v Speaker 1>per hour.

0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's pretty cool.

0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:23.200
<v Speaker 1>That's way cool.

0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Remember, like in the Cockroach episode, we talked about

0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.760
<v Speaker 3>how they're the fastest animal on the planet relatively speaking.

0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:35.080
<v Speaker 3>Pretty neat stuff. Yeah, so chuck right out of the gate,

0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.439
<v Speaker 3>Mattel had a hit on its hands. Oh yes, they

0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:42.160
<v Speaker 3>released them in nineteen sixty eight. By nineteen seventy, Hot

0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Wheels was a Saturday Morning cartoon in the vein of

0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.600
<v Speaker 3>like Dune Buggy and Scooby Doo and all those guys.

0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Hanna barbera dune buggy or speed Buggy, Speed Buggy. Yeah

0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.640
<v Speaker 3>remember speed Buggy. Yeah, it was like a dune buggy

0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:01.520
<v Speaker 3>that could talk, and it was basically wonder bug No,

0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.720
<v Speaker 3>it's speed Buggy. Okay, because there was under if you

0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.000
<v Speaker 3>took Shaggy and put some like racing goggles on him. Yeah,

0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:12.000
<v Speaker 3>and then turned Scooby Doo into a speed a doom Buggy. Yeah,

0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:13.120
<v Speaker 3>that's speed Buggy.

0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh was that a cartoon?

0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, went around solving mysteries and stuff like that.

0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wonderbug was I think that was live action?

0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh, this was a cartoon, said Marty Croft. This is

0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.360
<v Speaker 3>exactly like Scooby Doo by the people who did Scooby Doo,

0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.800
<v Speaker 3>using the same people who did the voices for Scooby Doo.

0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:34.440
<v Speaker 3>It just vaguely changed the characters. Hot Wheels was virtually

0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.600
<v Speaker 3>the same thing, except it was about racing clubs. There

0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.760
<v Speaker 3>were the bad guys and good guys and.

0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what this prus? What is the nineteen seventies,

0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.240
<v Speaker 1>the doom Buggy was a very popular thing. You remember

0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.439
<v Speaker 1>seeing those on the road, Like I used to see

0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.440
<v Speaker 1>them all the time. Not all the time, but in

0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.920
<v Speaker 1>the seventies it was a common thing. Yeah, you don't

0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:55.440
<v Speaker 1>see him anymore, very rarely. Nope, No gremlins, no yukos, no,

0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:56.320
<v Speaker 1>no wonder bugs.

0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:01.400
<v Speaker 3>You know I like gremlins. Do you okay for me? Though?

0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:07.040
<v Speaker 3>The Kudi gras of car design is the AMC Pacer. Yeah,

0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.240
<v Speaker 3>it's like the for Micah Kitchen of cars. Yeah, it's

0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.800
<v Speaker 3>beautiful in all the weirdest ways.

0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:14.440
<v Speaker 1>So much window.

0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.280
<v Speaker 3>That would be my sought after hot wheels if I

0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.640
<v Speaker 3>had a hot wheels that if I just could have

0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.600
<v Speaker 3>one hot wheel, Yeah, it would. I don't know if

0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.840
<v Speaker 3>that would be it. I'd be happy with that one.

0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Now do they have that it's a hot wheel? Oh?

0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, And if you look up AMC Gremlin hot wheels, yeah,

0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.200
<v Speaker 3>they went to town on those. They had some with

0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:38.360
<v Speaker 3>like the intakes like sticking out of the hood and yeah,

0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.880
<v Speaker 3>just all sorts of just awesome different variations like indie

0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.720
<v Speaker 3>car Gremlins and stuff like that.

0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Because and that raises a pretty good point. Hot wheels

0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:51.760
<v Speaker 3>has always been about the racing design, Like they've designed

0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.040
<v Speaker 3>them to look like racing cars, but they've also manufactured

0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.000
<v Speaker 3>them to actually be able to win a race, like

0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.440
<v Speaker 3>we talked about with Matchbox.

0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and one of the differences that is one of

0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.240
<v Speaker 1>the main differences between the match box and the hot

0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.760
<v Speaker 1>wheel is they were just much more interested in being sportier,

0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.080
<v Speaker 1>like you could get you could get a match box

0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:13.320
<v Speaker 1>like a delivery truck, right, you know they had that,

0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.120
<v Speaker 1>but the match Boxes looked more real. They all were

0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:22.000
<v Speaker 1>about looking realistic and not necessarily performance. And hey, if

0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you want a bread truck, you can get a bread truck,

0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.440
<v Speaker 1>right exactly, But you can't get a bread truck hot Wheel.

0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, we'll talk more about all of this jam

0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:31.920
<v Speaker 3>right after this.

0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:52.240
<v Speaker 1>You want to go ahead and talk about some of

0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the other differences between Matchbox and hot Wheel, Yes, sure,

0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.120
<v Speaker 1>since we're at it. Match Box or I'm sorry, hot

0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Wheel is the one that is more likely to have

0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.800
<v Speaker 1>branded versions, oh man.

0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:04.880
<v Speaker 3>And do they ever like.

0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.640
<v Speaker 1>The Ghostbusters ectomobile.

0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Right or even more than that, Like they have a

0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.960
<v Speaker 3>deal with eminem Mars for twenty fifteen, so they have

0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.080
<v Speaker 3>like a TwixT trucks and a Skittles van and like

0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:22.840
<v Speaker 3>all this stuff. They have licensing with DC and Marvel this.

0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Year, Fast and the Furious. I know they had a

0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:25.240
<v Speaker 1>line yep.

0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.520
<v Speaker 3>So they're really big time into branded and a lot

0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.280
<v Speaker 3>of times they'll have like a store will just have exclusives,

0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:37.520
<v Speaker 3>access to an exclusive line of Skittles cars or something

0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.320
<v Speaker 3>like that that you can only get it KB toys.

0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they have a NASCAR deal too. If

0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken, I would not be surprised. And the

0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.480
<v Speaker 1>hot wheels usually have a little bit wider, a longer axle,

0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and wider wheels because it's just cooler that wheel sticks

0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:55.240
<v Speaker 1>out from the body a little bit, you know.

0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, plus also supposedly, and we'll talk about this a

0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.560
<v Speaker 3>little more, when you shrink a car down to scale,

0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:01.680
<v Speaker 3>it looks a little weird.

0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you might as well ahead and bring that up. Okay,

0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.919
<v Speaker 1>it looks weird. You can't just shrink it and have

0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.360
<v Speaker 1>it in the same proportion and have it look normal.

0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Right Like, it'll be as far as like shrinking a

0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.800
<v Speaker 3>car down by scale, it will be in the exact

0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:21.280
<v Speaker 3>same proportion. But it's just awful little bit like. So

0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:25.159
<v Speaker 3>what they do to make a hot wheels raceable is

0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.800
<v Speaker 3>they expand the wheel well a little more. Yeah, they

0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:30.840
<v Speaker 3>break it out a little bit. Yeah, which is why

0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.760
<v Speaker 3>the wheel stick out some on a hot wheels, but

0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.560
<v Speaker 3>not on a match box. That's right, because match boxes

0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.960
<v Speaker 3>are all about realism. To heck with how it looks,

0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.000
<v Speaker 3>as long as it's real.

0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.920
<v Speaker 1>The one of my favorite ones, and I had one

0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of these that they mentioned this article was the red barren.

0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.040
<v Speaker 1>The person who wrote this said it was an inexplicable

0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and inexplicably cool helmet over the cockpit. I don't know

0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.919
<v Speaker 1>about inexplicable. It was just the roof of the car

0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.160
<v Speaker 1>was a helmet, right. But I looked it up again, Tod,

0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, yeah, I had that thing,

0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:07.400
<v Speaker 1>but it was It wasn't a Nazi helmet per se,

0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.520
<v Speaker 1>but it was that shape of the helmet like the

0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.600
<v Speaker 1>US oldiers had that shape now, you know, where it's

0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.359
<v Speaker 1>cut lower around the ears instead of just a straight

0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the World War two helmet. But the

0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Nazis used those first, you know, because it's a better

0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.240
<v Speaker 1>design for war. And it also had a black iron

0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:27.440
<v Speaker 1>cross on the side of it.

0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Well hence the red baron, right.

0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it was It's easy now as an adulta

0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.280
<v Speaker 1>look and say that looks like a little Nazi hot rod.

0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the red baron was World War One. He

0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.040
<v Speaker 3>was pre Nazi Germany.

0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And it was also I think at the time

0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.720
<v Speaker 1>just like looked like the biker gang would wear like

0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:45.119
<v Speaker 1>those helmet with the iron cross.

0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and all of it was Southern California hot rod culture. Yeah,

0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.680
<v Speaker 3>what gave rise to Hot Wheels, so it makes sense.

0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think there was any like sartitious intent.

0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, like I said, right out of the gate,

0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.400
<v Speaker 3>hot Wheels was a hit. They had a cartoon within

0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.160
<v Speaker 3>a year or so of the first sixteen being released. Sure,

0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.920
<v Speaker 3>the second release they had I think twenty.

0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Two new cars, yeah, thirty three total.

0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:17.480
<v Speaker 3>And then the third year they had another. They released

0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.320
<v Speaker 3>thirty three after that, right.

0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, yeah, I'm sorry, thirty three by nineteen seventy.

0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.000
<v Speaker 3>So they did sixteen, twenty four and then thirty three

0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.399
<v Speaker 3>and all of them came in like different colors, right, So,

0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.719
<v Speaker 3>like I said, if you had one, that didn't mean

0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.520
<v Speaker 3>you had them all. You wanted to collect them all.

0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.680
<v Speaker 3>So kids were going crazy for it. And another way

0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.560
<v Speaker 3>that Mattel very wisely targeted children was to get in

0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:42.640
<v Speaker 3>with fast food. In nineteen seventy, the first Hot Wheels

0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.720
<v Speaker 3>came out as a toy at Jack in the Boxes.

0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh really Yeah.

0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.560
<v Speaker 3>The big one though, the one that put them over

0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:54.560
<v Speaker 3>the top, was in nineteen eighty three when kids who

0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.680
<v Speaker 3>were lucky enough to be taken to McDonald's for dinner.

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:02.120
<v Speaker 1>The happy meal exactly hot Wheel.

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.439
<v Speaker 3>Which is what they called of at the time, Uh,

0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:08.199
<v Speaker 3>or could get one of fourteen hot wheels. Yeah, in

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.719
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty three, and they had some cool once. They

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.960
<v Speaker 3>had a Chevy citation.

0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Did they really?

0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they had one that was one of my favorite. Actually.

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:20.240
<v Speaker 3>It was a Toyota Mini Trek, which is like a

0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:24.160
<v Speaker 3>station wagon camper and it even said painted on the side,

0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:28.120
<v Speaker 3>good time Camper that you could get in your happy meal,

0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 3>which if I could have one hot wheel, it would

0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:32.639
<v Speaker 3>probably be that.

0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.760
<v Speaker 1>You know what they were doing now that I look

0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:36.040
<v Speaker 1>back through my adult.

0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Eyes, like snorting pot.

0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:41.280
<v Speaker 1>No, they were giving you a bunch of crappy ones

0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:43.959
<v Speaker 1>because you wanted to keep coming back to get the

0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:44.400
<v Speaker 1>cool one.

0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Probably you're like, ah, I got a citation, like, can

0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I go back because I want to get the hot rod? Right,

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.240
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what they were doing. Sure, man, I feel

0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:54.400
<v Speaker 1>so like manipulated.

0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.800
<v Speaker 3>What did you think they were doing with happy Meals?

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I know it was all manipulation to

0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.160
<v Speaker 1>get you to try and own all of them, right,

0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:04.679
<v Speaker 1>but they should have been all cool ones. But you

0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.200
<v Speaker 1>can't do that because the regular kid might be like, no,

0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I got the cool one. I'm fine. But if you

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 1>get the citation, you feel jipped off and you really

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.760
<v Speaker 1>want to go back and get one of the hot rods. Yeah,

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.720
<v Speaker 1>it's my eyes are wide open, my friends.

0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's why our friends down under in Australia have

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.199
<v Speaker 3>like outlawed marketing directly to children, which I think is

0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:30.520
<v Speaker 3>a fantastic mode. Really, yeah, that's so unfair to market

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 3>directly to children. It's just almost literally is like taking

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:40.159
<v Speaker 3>candy from a baby. Like kids aren't sophisticated enough to

0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:45.200
<v Speaker 3>psychologically defend themselves from being like bombarded with by adults

0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.320
<v Speaker 3>to say, go tell your parents to buy you this.

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.560
<v Speaker 3>You can't function correctly without this trapper keeper, so go

0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 3>get it.

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:53.240
<v Speaker 1>The traffic keeper.

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:55.760
<v Speaker 1>What do they make a law?

0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Really yeah, it's a big one, very progressive law.

0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Big all countries should adopt.

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Well. In nineteen eighty three, I agree wholeheartedly. By the way,

0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty three is when that happy meal thing happened.

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.160
<v Speaker 1>And also the same year they moved from Hong Kong

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:16.679
<v Speaker 1>to Malaysia, and it said that's when they added their

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 1>economy cars, so that must have coincided with the citation.

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the citation man one of the most disappointing Happy

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.240
<v Speaker 3>Meal toys you could possibly.

0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Get, Yeah, because it reminded you of your dad, who

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:30.760
<v Speaker 1>drove a citation.

0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Right, who was always mad.

0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, dear so Chuckers.

0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Yes, After nineteen eighty three, not a lot happened. Hot

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Oils just kept going on, expanding more and more and more.

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.719
<v Speaker 3>I think they had another Happy Meals joint in ninety

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:55.359
<v Speaker 3>one or something like that. And in nineteen ninety five

0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.159
<v Speaker 3>they said, we need, we need to do something big,

0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 3>and they did. They were at least something called Treasure

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Hunt series, which was a purposefully limited release car series

0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 3>of cars. Yeah. I think they did twelve models at

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 3>ten thousand each originally, and hence the name Treasure Hunt.

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:18.399
<v Speaker 3>They are hard to find.

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And one of the cooler ones for me was

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the Oldsmobile for forty two.

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The thing is neat.

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>A dude at my church had a four forty two

0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and it was just awesome, man. He was he had

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 1>like the only muscle car in the youth group. And years,

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like two years ago, my brother I was talking about

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.400
<v Speaker 1>this dude, Jason Singleton. I was like, whatever happened to him?

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, he still lives in the so and so,

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and he went and you know what, dude, I went,

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:45.920
<v Speaker 1>no went, He still got it.

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, why would you get rid of it?

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>He still has the car. Went to his Facebook page

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and it is like the center of his life. I'm

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:54.880
<v Speaker 1>sure it's his baby. I mean, he's had that thing

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 1>since like nineteen eighty six and just it's juiced up

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 1>and he's just gre the daylights out of me and

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that thing. But it was also exhilarating, you know, to

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 1>be riding with him and he you know, like two

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 1>hundred feet of drag. He would lay like power breaking

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>and he would get like four sets of tires a year.

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:16.439
<v Speaker 3>He'd be in the passenger seat going saved me Jesus.

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was very scared because I was you know,

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't flirt with the wild side back then.

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 3>No, so Oldsmobile four forty two is as close as

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 3>you got.

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Yep. It was exhilarating.

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 3>And then so that was nineteen ninety five. This treasure

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Hunt thing kind of went. It didn't go exactly as plan.

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Mattel was like, oh, we could make even more money

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 3>if we put these into a wider release. Yeah, So

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 3>the original ten thousand releases were redoing again and again

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 3>and again. So treasure hunt kind of became commonplace, sure,

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 3>but it was a good idea and it tapped into

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 3>this whole idea of collecting. Like Mattel was like, we

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 3>know you're out there, and we're going to design these

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 3>just for you. Yeah, and we'll talk more about collectors,

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.199
<v Speaker 3>but just to kind of button up the history of

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Hot Wheels, it all came full circle in nineteen ninety

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 3>six when Mattel bought Tycho and hence Hot Wheels bought Matchbox.

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.120
<v Speaker 1>So they're all owned by Mattel at this point. Yes,

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll get to the design and collecting it

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 1>right after this. So back then, if you wanted to

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>do a smaller version of a larger car and scale

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it down, you didn't have computer aided design and stuff.

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you might have had a blueprint, which helped, but

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you just had to get out there in the

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>parking lot with the tape measure yeah, and just take

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>some measurements and then you know, be good at math,

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 1>right basically.

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:05.880
<v Speaker 3>And like like we said, Harry Bradley, who's the daddy

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 3>of the Hot Wheels designs, who's the guy who did

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:12.959
<v Speaker 3>the first sixteen He was a GM designer. Originally in

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 3>his footsteps followed Howard Reese and then after that Larry

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 3>would and they those are some of like the legendary

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 3>Hot Wheels designers.

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>That's the Mount Rushmore of hot wheels pretty much.

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah and yeah. They would just literally go out and

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 3>measure these things. And that was one way that hot

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 3>wheels were born. Another way was that And this definitely

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 3>differentiates Hot Wheels from match Box is that there are

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 3>hot Wheels that only exist in the Hot Wheels world.

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 3>They they are called the fantasy cars, like they're just

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 3>the designer's imagination come to life.

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Right Whereas match Box only I believe, has bread trucks exactly, Well,

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>they only have cars that are based on real cars,

0:26:58.240 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>right right.

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Hot Wheels has a whole fantasy line.

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting that they're owned byes of the same company

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>still and they just have kept that distinction. Yeah, you know,

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess some people are Matchbox kids and some kids

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>are Hot Wheels kids. I had both. I think I

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>had a bread truck.

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Is that why you keep going to the bread truck?

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I didn't have a bread truck, but I

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 1>do remember having a couple of like weird utility type vehicles.

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Huh huh. That I don't remember. There were probably gifts

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>or stocking stuffers or something.

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I like sought it out.

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 3>I was always into Tonka trucks. I thought Tonko was great.

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 3>They were obviously much bigger, but those were like construction vehicles,

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.679
<v Speaker 3>like dump trucks and stuff like that. And still today

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 3>that Volvo dump truck, the giant one, yeah, with the

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 3>huge wheels, I think is one of the coolest vehicles

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 3>ever created. Yeah, I think I had one of those.

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 3>When I was a kid.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a lot of Tonka stuff. One of

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>my favorite hot wheels though, was the little red Express truck.

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember that if.

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>You saw it, you might it might a bell that

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 1>was basically uh, I can't remember what kind of truck

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>it was. I think it was a Dodge, but it

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>was just a cool red step side pickup truck and

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>it had the two vertical mufflers on each side that

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 1>went up above the truck.

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>I think I know what you're talking about.

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's really cool. And if you go to

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>the the Peterson Automotive Museum in La oh, yeah, They

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.479
<v Speaker 1>have a really cool exhibit there that I haven't been

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 1>to in person, but I was looking at it, a

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>line permanent exhibit where they have the real life versions

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of the hot wheel cars and they have a little

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>red express truck, a full size one. Yeah, and I

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>saw it and I was like.

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 3>Whoa, did you just die from nostalgia?

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Look might have teered up a little bit at the desk,

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>but they have, you know, the the gussied up corvettes

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>with the big chrome engines coming out of the hood.

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 3>And do they have the four to four to two.

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they have the four forty two.

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 3>But I'm very well, when your friend dies, but it's

0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 3>in his will.

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll go straight to the muse. Yeah, I'm gonna go

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>to this thing though at some point I don't know,

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>on this next LA trip or not. But it's right

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>there near the labri of tarpets. I think, oh yeah,

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:09.719
<v Speaker 1>so I want to go check it out.

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 3>I've been there. Yeah, it's neat.

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It is neat. But back to the design. These days,

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna need a tape measure and stuff like that.

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna photoshop designs and you're gonna even get a

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>three D printer to your prototype.

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 3>That had to have helped them tremendously. Yeah, because you know,

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 3>with if you're designing real life cars and you have

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 3>a three D printer, that's pretty handy, but with Hot Wheels, like,

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 3>you can print out pretty much exactly what it's gonna

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 3>look like. Sure, and once they have the the prototype done,

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 3>they'll make them. They'll make a mold out of it

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 3>and then inject it with molten metal under tremendous pressure. Yeah,

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 3>and that's why it's called die cast. You create a

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 3>dye that you cast all of the ensuing ones from.

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think they're made with less metal than

0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>they used to be, but they they still have metal components, right.

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I haven't seen a new one in a while.

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 3>I haven't either, but I'm almost positive they do. And

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 3>apparently they're still about like a dollar. Oh really Yeah.

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 3>I was on the Hot Wheels collector site today and

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 3>like they kept making reference to about a dollar. So

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 3>just what's called the mainline? Yeah, the ones that they

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 3>make on mass.

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>The citation exactly.

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 3>I'll bet if you've got your hands on that nineteen

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 3>eighty three citation it'd be worth a few books. You're right,

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 3>but they kept referring to the mainline stuff about a dollar.

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, they've just kept making their manufacturing cheaper and cheaper,

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.959
<v Speaker 1>so they've maintained that cost. I guess. Yeah. So as

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>far as collecting goes, the most valuable and that is

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>not this crazy one made out of diamonds for the

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>fortieth anniversary, which we'll talk about in a minute, But

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the most valuable regular hot wheel is the sixty eight

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>beach Bomb, which was a VW bus and hot pink

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that had real surfboard stick it out of the back.

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Originally they only released I think twenty five of

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 3>them like that. There were a couple of problems. It

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 3>was difficult to manufacture them with the surfboard sticking on

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 3>the back, even though it was more realistic sure, and

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 3>it also was terrible on like a loopy loop track, yeah,

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 3>because I guess the surfboards would either way them down

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 3>or it would get stuck. So they only made just

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 3>a few of these things. The beach Bomb that was

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 3>the highest selling the hogh Wheels ever, was a pink one.

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 3>They made even fewer of those because apparently a lot

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 3>of boys were like, oh, I'm not playing with some

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 3>pink van, even if it does have cool surfboards sticking

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 3>out of the back. So the thing sold for like,

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 3>I think seventy something seventy five thousand dollars in two thousand,

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 3>and it has since sold again in twenty eleven. I

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 3>saw in like LA magazine for like one hundred and

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 3>twenty five thousand.

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a lot of money for a tiny little car.

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it is. And that's the highest one ever apparently

0:31:58.840 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 3>by a long shot too.

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean I've seen others that were worth like

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>ten grand and stuff, Like I think one of those

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>four to forty two originals is like ten grand.

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess like nineteen seventy mongoose or cobra are

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 3>worth about ten grand these days, and a lot of them,

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 3>just like with any collector's item, you'll see if there

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 3>was just a few of them made, obviously they're gonna

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 3>be worth a lot more if there was something that

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 3>where they adjusted the design, like for example, the python

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 3>was originally called the Cheetah. Yeah, and then they found

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 3>out that a real life executive with real life lawyers

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 3>at GM owned the name Cheetah, because apparently GM executives

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 3>just owned names for cars that could potentially be.

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Used like every anifast animal name.

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Right, exactly. Yeah, so they changed it to the python,

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 3>but that was after they'd started manufacturing the cheetah. So

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 3>there's some out there that say Cheetah stamped on the bottom,

0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 3>and if you have one of those, it's for ten.

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's funny to think about. It's the same with

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars, like sometimes the mistake ones are the ones

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>that are super valuable because like there was some recall,

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>but they're like, oh, but you want that one because

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the Boba FET's rocket really shot out before kids started

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>joking on them, right or catching on fire. Yeah, and

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the one you want. Yeah, But like you said,

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>it's all about scarcity and supplying to man.

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Dude. This whole thing is reminded me of a really

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 3>great gallery I put together about hilarious knockoff toys.

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a good one.

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, go to stuff youshould know dot com and look

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 3>that up. It's pretty awesome. There's some really strange interpretations

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 3>of beloved toys, including Star Wars toys, that people who

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 3>make counterfeit toys come up with to try to skirt

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 3>trademark law. Maybe or something or else. They just fully

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 3>don't understand the toy and what it's a lure is,

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 3>so they just make it in this weird interpretation. It's

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 3>pretty hilarious stuff.

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a good one. We'll post that again, okay.

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>And then I did mention the diamond studded one. I

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>always think these things are just ridiculous. But like to

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>take any like of the diamond studded bras it was worth,

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, oh yeah, for million bucks. I just always

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's kind of dumb. But they did make a

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>fortieth anniversary in edition in nineteen I'm sorry, in two

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight with twenty seven hundred little diamonds and

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>rubies for tail lights and black diamonds for the tires

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. Eighteen care at white cold body.

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 1>But it's where the one hundred and forty or it costs

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.320
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty thousand dollars to put together.

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it's gaudy. It's a gaudy hot wheels. Yeah,

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 3>so the car's cool. It looks like Mad Max's car.

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh you get is that a picture of it?

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I saw that.

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Can you identify that car? Uh?

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>What is that looks familiar? It does look familiar to

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>its sort of like a Dolorean, but I don't think

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:54.840
<v Speaker 1>it is.

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so either.

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>No, man, that new Mad Max looks good though.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Are you making Mad Max?

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a new reboot I guess is what they

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>call it these days?

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Cool? Who's in it?

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:14.919
<v Speaker 1>What's his face that played Bain So? Yeah, Tom, Tom?

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:20.280
<v Speaker 1>What's no? But uh, it looks it's the same director,

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Tom Hardy. Yeah, Tom Hardy. But it's the same director

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.879
<v Speaker 1>from all the Mad Max series. So it's oh really yeah, yeah,

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>yeah wow, And it just looks it's the whole it's

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be just like one long intense chase battle.

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sounds a lot like a Mad Max movie.

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Yep, what you want?

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever seen Vanishing Point?

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I think so? What is that?

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 3>It was? Like, Man, I can't remember the car, but

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 3>the car was basically the Star. It was on long

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 3>car chase from like I think Colorado to California.

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember that.

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 3>It's a good one from the seventies.

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, two lane Blacktops Challenger.

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 3>It's another the car. Yeah, I haven't seen that one.

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's good. When that one weirdly had James Taylor

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>in it when he was young and like on drugs

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and cool.

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Were they apologizing to France?

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they deal was.

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.280
<v Speaker 3>Did you hear about that? No, so that whole Charlie

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Hebdoh Solidarity March the US sent like, yeah, I think

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 3>the assistant that could be in charge of the USDA

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 3>or something like that. Yeah, So to apologize, John Carey

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 3>had James Taylor go to France to perform. You've got

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 3>a French shut up for the French government.

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just talk about beer. I know, isn't it send

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>guns n' roses or something at least well not guns n'

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>roses from nineteen eighty eight.

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Any guns n' roses? Man. One more thing about collecting.

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:59.919
<v Speaker 3>If you wanted to be the coolest collector of hot

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 3>wheels on the planet, you would have to build a

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 3>time machine and go back to nineteen eighty seven to

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 3>my hometown of Toledo, Ohio, which is where the first

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 3>ever hot Wheels Convention Collector's Convention was held. I really

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 3>wish I would have gone to that because I was

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 3>there at the time. What year was it, eighty seven?

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, yeah, I can't believe we sent James Tayler

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>still just like, yeah, I can't focus on anything.

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, if you want to know more about James Taylor,

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 3>hot wheels, or just about anything there is in the universe,

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 3>you can type it into the search bar at HowStuffWorks

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 3>dot com. And since I said search, bart's time for

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 3>listener mail.

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this minimum wage argument not argument proposal.

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Listened to How Homelessness Works from quite a few years ago,

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 1>and you guys commented that part of the problem was

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>a low minimum wage. In comparison the cost of renting

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>a two bedroom apartment, you'd have to work something like

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>eighty seven per hours eighty seven hours per week to

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>afford it, the implication we need to raise minimum wage.

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>After hearing this, a clear solution occurred to me. I

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 1>think disagreements on raising minimum wage as a result with

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>simple misunderstanding. On the raise side, people believe this wage

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>should be set at a level that would allow someone

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>to raise a few children and live a modest but

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>reasonably comfortable level, or at least a safe level. On

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the don't raise it side, people believe minimum wage is

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 1>just a starting point for working, like for teenagers, at

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>their summer job or after school. This ide believes workers

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>should were never intended to and should not expect to

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>be able to support a family that pays minimum wage.

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:41.360
<v Speaker 1>So here's my solution. Since we're a democracy here, let's

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>just decide what it is supposed to accomplish and then

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>set it at the appropriate level to do that. If

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>we decide it's a nation that someone should be able

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:51.359
<v Speaker 1>to raise a family rent a two bedroom apartment while

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>earning a wage minimum wage, let's just figure out what

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>that would cost and set the wage there. Figure in rent, clothing, food, utilities, transportation, etc.

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's say it's twenty seven grand per year, then set

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>it at that rate. On the other hand, if we

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>as a nation decide that minimum wage is just a

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.800
<v Speaker 1>starting point, not meant to support a family. It's intended

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>for people with no work history or experience and low

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>to no marketable skills, and we need to set minimum

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.320
<v Speaker 1>wage at a relatively low level and let the market.

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>The free market will ultimately determine the wage for entry

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>level workers, and workers historically have been able to increase

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>compensation by gaining skills and good work history. With a settle,

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>any argument about setting minimum wage at a living wage

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>would be mistaken because we all just decided that people

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>are not meant to live on minimum wage and certainly

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>not meant to support a family. That is from Joe

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Prohaska in Reno, Nevada, and its interesting. I look forward

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:49.360
<v Speaker 1>to seeing the rebuttal emails.

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's a

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 3>great proposal. I mean, I think that is what it's

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 3>based on.

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Sure, but as far.

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 3>As I know, the cost of living calculations are really

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 3>date Yeah, and take a lot of stuff into account

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't really apply any longer.

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Plus, regardless of what you think it should or should

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 1>not be, the fact is, adults with two kids are

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>still going to be working these jobs. It's not just

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be teenagers looking to advance.

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 3>But it would be nice to put that issue to bed,

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 3>to say, like, this is what we're trying to achieve,

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 3>or this is not what we're trying to achieve. At

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 3>the very least you get everybody talking.

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because should some teenager at his first job make

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like fourteen bucks an hour?

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's sending the right message either.

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know we'll leave it up

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 3>to you guys, our dear listeners.

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 1>When I started working, it was like three bucks an

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>hour or something. It was ridiculously low.

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 3>That is ridiculously low. Yeah, if you want to let

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 3>us know how you feel about Joe's proposal, was it Joe?

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was Joe Reno, Joe Reno Joe.

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 3>You can tweet to us at sysk podcast. You can

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 3>post it on Facebook dot com, slash Stuff you Should Know.

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 3>You can put it in an email. It's stuff podcast

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 3>at HowStuffWorks dot com, and just for kicks, you can

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.720
<v Speaker 3>hang around our home on the web Stuff you Should

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Know dot com.

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 2>For more on this and thousands of other topics, visit

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>HowStuffWorks dot com.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Hey, friends, just want to let you know our friends

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>at Squarespace have partnered with the dude Jeff Bridges and

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a really cool thing called www dot Dreaming with Jeff

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:36.719
<v Speaker 1>dot com. And this is something Jeff Bridges actually came

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>up with. It's a project where he has his friends

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>in various locations around LA with these cool relaxing sounds

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>and guided meditations and stories designed to lull you asleep.

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>It's really neat. And he's also the Face of No

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Kid Hungry, which is a great charity group you should

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>look into. So check out ww dot Dreaming with Jeff

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>dot Com and see what the dude in squarespace has

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>going on.