WEBVTT - Ben Shapiro's Unreadable Book is Still the Best Thing About 2020

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we start the podcast. Are you already recording?

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<v Speaker 1>That's are you recording as you were screaming? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>was recording. When I started making the noise, I anticipated

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<v Speaker 1>that the podcast would start with that's the beauty of

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<v Speaker 1>that professional I'm Robert. I'm Robert Evans. Welcome. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like it. I'm not I'm not doing it. No

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<v Speaker 1>one else is Robert Evans because nobody else gets to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce my show a tonally and wordlessly. We have started,

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<v Speaker 1>then we have started you okay? Correct? Hi everyone, Hello

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<v Speaker 1>America and parts of Canada in the UK Zealand. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't let them on here. Yes we do. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you guys. There are some real strict GEO tags.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm keeping my eye on you. If you're good on

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<v Speaker 1>the list motherfuckers is what I think. Hello America, except

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<v Speaker 1>the Celtics fans of Boston. I don't say hi to you.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been quite the introduction. Um, it's the last

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<v Speaker 1>day of August as we record this. In August is

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<v Speaker 1>a month we did it kind of maybe, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see the missiles could all start firing anytime in

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<v Speaker 1>the next several hours left. Yeah, we got like nine hours.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did say, I don't know. I started saying

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<v Speaker 1>a few months back that August was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a really fucking horrible month. And it's been a really

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<v Speaker 1>fucking horrible month. Uh As I like, like this Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>like two days ago. I guess less than two days ago. Um, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>guy got shot dead in the streets of Portland. Um

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<v Speaker 1>that that was not good. Looks like they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be escalating a series of heavily armed rallies between left

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<v Speaker 1>ring and right wing demonstrators that are likely to degenerate

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<v Speaker 1>in the gunfight. So September might be even worse, probably

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be. So that's good. Too much time

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<v Speaker 1>until November. So, folks, when things like this happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>when I say things like this, I mean the complete

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<v Speaker 1>collapse of democratic society and to an authoritarian bloodsilk nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>When things like this happen, we hear it behind the bastards.

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<v Speaker 1>Know of only one way to try to keep people's

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<v Speaker 1>spirits up, try to maintain you know, um, that that

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<v Speaker 1>fighting spirit that we're all gonna need to get through this. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And that way is, of course reading excerpts from Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Shapiro's unbelievably terrible novel, True Allegiance, ah, beautiful prose, Gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>describe it correctly, My goodness. Did I introduce the show

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<v Speaker 1>or Adi and Cody or did I just start shouting

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<v Speaker 1>a totally yeah, I can do it. Okay, what is

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<v Speaker 1>this show, Sophie? This show is Behind the Bastards and

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<v Speaker 1>it's hosted by you, Robert Evans. I am, I am

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<v Speaker 1>your executive producer, Sophie lick Derman. Anderson is the is

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<v Speaker 1>the uh is our ceo um um. And then we're

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<v Speaker 1>joined today by h Katie Stole and Cody Johnston of

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<v Speaker 1>Some More News, even More News, Worst Year Ever and

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<v Speaker 1>just epic nous. That's good, okay, well, great on the

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<v Speaker 1>horse the horse. Everyone is has has boarded the horse.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought you were going to say the horses

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<v Speaker 1>in the back, and I got really scared that you

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<v Speaker 1>knew a pop culture reference the horse in the bag. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know any of that. What I do know

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<v Speaker 1>is that we just finished, uh, we just finished when

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<v Speaker 1>we last left off, and I recommend there's been like,

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<v Speaker 1>what now three episodes of this before just going through

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<v Speaker 1>and we're just skimming Ben's novel and reading chunks of

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<v Speaker 1>it because it's very funny. Um. The last chapter was

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Hawthorne, combat General and prisoner of terrorist man in

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<v Speaker 1>the City of Iran, which, yeah, short terrorists attacked by

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<v Speaker 1>the bear of a man kidnapped by short terrorists. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Brett Hawthorne kidnapped by terrorists. He just had

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<v Speaker 1>gotten thrown into the cell after having his big meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with the bad terrorist guy. Um the evil terrorist Uh

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<v Speaker 1>drifted off to sleep thinking of his wife Ellen um

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<v Speaker 1>or the TV show Ellen. Um. That's unclear at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unclear. Um, I choose. I mean, I'm praying for

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<v Speaker 1>Ellen to Brett. We all are we all? We all are? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So the next chapter is a President Prescott chapter, which

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<v Speaker 1>is again Barack Obama but white, Barack Obama but white,

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<v Speaker 1>and mixed with a little bit of f DR and Hitler.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Hitler like other parts. Um. Okay, were you asking, Katie?

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, did we decide like a prototype

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<v Speaker 1>for him, like like Kevin Costner. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, it seems like Ben is patterning the

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<v Speaker 1>president in this off of the kind of person who

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<v Speaker 1>has not gotten elected ever in democratic politics, but um

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans believe is like, yeah, he's like the fantasy Republican

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<v Speaker 1>democratic president, right, so he's like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton mixed in with a little bit of Hitler.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's what we get with President Prescott. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>President Prescott always felt a surge of power through his body.

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<v Speaker 1>He's set in the situation room. This is where they

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<v Speaker 1>had made all their biggest decisions. It's where Kennedy read

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<v Speaker 1>teletype during the Cuban missile crisis. It's where President Barack

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<v Speaker 1>Obama had set watching Seal Team six take out Osama

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<v Speaker 1>bin Laden. And this is where Prescott new he'd be

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at the head of the table while American Special

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<v Speaker 1>Operations troops dispatched. It brought him a shami. It is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of unclear in this up until now. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first Barack Obama reference we get very

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<v Speaker 1>unfair for Barack Obama. What the timing has been of

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<v Speaker 1>like American history and Ben Shapiro's alternate timeline. Um, just

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<v Speaker 1>the president right after Obama. I think this is the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what if a random Democrat who was also Hitler

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<v Speaker 1>instead of Trump. That's that's I mean, you could make

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<v Speaker 1>the case that that is Trump in some capacities. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>except for Trump, I don't think he's ever been owed

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<v Speaker 1>by um the weight of a historical anything, because he's

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<v Speaker 1>not really capable of feeling the emotion of awe. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, so they intelligence figured out General Hawthorne's signal.

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<v Speaker 1>If you remember, he was like being he was on

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<v Speaker 1>one of those terrorist videos and he'd like blinked the

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<v Speaker 1>coordinates of where he was. Then yeah, that's good. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, um Hawthorne had spoken the pre written message

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<v Speaker 1>from a Shami just as a Shammi had written it,

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<v Speaker 1>prompting a national debate on whether Hawthorne had should have

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<v Speaker 1>complied with the propaganda requirements of the world's leading terrorist.

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<v Speaker 1>But intelligence kept the fact that Hawthorne hadn't complied under

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<v Speaker 1>their hat. Well, the west rest of the world had

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<v Speaker 1>watched Hawthorne's mouth, Intelligence had watched his eyes. Which is

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<v Speaker 1>very funny to me, because like every time anything vaguely

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<v Speaker 1>like that's that's any that's vaguely a mystery occurs that

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<v Speaker 1>involves like a video clip, that's you know, anytime something

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<v Speaker 1>like that goes viral, whether it's a murder or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the entire Internet sets to trying to solve it. And

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<v Speaker 1>if this guy had been blinking in Morse code while

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<v Speaker 1>deliver like like, there's a zero percent chance that everything

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<v Speaker 1>he had been saying wouldn't have already been liked to do,

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<v Speaker 1>would have figured it out. My favorite would have figured

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<v Speaker 1>it out was that one sentence that you just read,

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<v Speaker 1>um butt Intelligence kept the fact that Hawthorne hadn't complied

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<v Speaker 1>under the Oh wait, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a few sentences. That's a ok yeah, good good yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>good improvement, improvement. Ben he had a copy editor for

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<v Speaker 1>this chapter, Yeah, he must have, so, yeah, this he

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<v Speaker 1>talked been talks about how Hawthorne had taken the trick

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<v Speaker 1>of blinking in Morse code from a Vietnam era pow

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<v Speaker 1>who had blinked out torture, which is maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit easier than blinking out the coordinates airstrike now and

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<v Speaker 1>then geographical coordinates. Yeah, it's very funny, um. And also

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<v Speaker 1>just that they would know like that that would be

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<v Speaker 1>what the that the government would in stantly agree. Ah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this captured person has called for an air strike on

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<v Speaker 1>the capital of a sovereign nation. That's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>what we do. Well, not only do we know that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he's calling for to do it. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to launch. Yeah, well, no, he doesn't know it,

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<v Speaker 1>been doesn't note. The message prompted a full scale debate

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<v Speaker 1>inside the White House. It raised too many questions. First,

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<v Speaker 1>was Hawthorne's location correct? How would he know where he

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<v Speaker 1>was given that prisoners were typically blindfolded and kept in

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<v Speaker 1>windowless rooms before their executions. If Hawthorne was wrong about

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<v Speaker 1>the location and a heavily populated area of Tehran, the

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<v Speaker 1>United States could end up with the blood of dozens

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<v Speaker 1>on its hands and an international mess almost impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>clean up. They could brill him it all in Iranian

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear weapons, but after Iraq, the public wouldn't be buying

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<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not the Yeah, that's not the reason,

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<v Speaker 1>not to kill dozens of innocent people that the public

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<v Speaker 1>might not buy it, right, Yeah, maybe we can't get

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<v Speaker 1>away with killing the civilians all the To be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>he has written articles about how he doesn't care about

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<v Speaker 1>civilian casualties, So sure it did isn't very surprising, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it just occurs to me, Cody because that article he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote about how he thinks it's he thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>stupid whenever people complained about civilian casualties in Afghanistan, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine to kill civilians in Afghanistan. He was seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>when he wrote that article. And there's probably a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good essay to be written by someone smarter than me

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<v Speaker 1>about Ben Shapiro, age seventeen, urging the nation to mass

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<v Speaker 1>murder strangers in Afghanistan and Kyle Rittenhouse, age seventeen, taking

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<v Speaker 1>his A R fifteen across state lines illegally to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>strangers in another city. Probably something going on there, right, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh yeah yeah. Second, even if Hawthorne was right,

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<v Speaker 1>could the American aircraft breach Iranian airspace to take out

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<v Speaker 1>of Shami? A strike in a populated area would require

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<v Speaker 1>too much pinpoint accuracy for a missile. Military aircraft would

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<v Speaker 1>have to be utilized. Such an attack would surely have

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<v Speaker 1>grave ramifications for international politics, including ongoing nuclear negotiations with

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<v Speaker 1>the Iranian. Yeah. I think you're not going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>negotiating with them if you bomb their capital right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I do suspect that would have an impact, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's logic and reason he's doing logic and reason. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is also like incredibly boring. It's like basic and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like, oh, they might shoot the plane down and

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a problem. Like he's he's tried to

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<v Speaker 1>like portray this dude is like this feckless and wildly

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<v Speaker 1>responsible president. But then everything is going through in his

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<v Speaker 1>head is like, yes, these are all things you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to consider if you were going to bomb the capital

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<v Speaker 1>of a rod Like it's like, what are we what

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<v Speaker 1>are we spending our time on here? Yeah, oh Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>So and then he has this thought go through the

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<v Speaker 1>heads of this presume of like supposedly progressive Democratic candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>The Israelis were sitting around waiting to strike Iran's nuclear facilities,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Americans taking action in Iranian soil, they could

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of the situation to double up with the

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<v Speaker 1>brief bombing campaign, sinking any possibility of a nuclear deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I don't know, just very very boring, boring.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, yeah, it's not like he's not doing like

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<v Speaker 1>a a very legitimate like thought process, but also it's boring,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't need any of this. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to hear this, this internal debate. Um, or if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to write a scene where they talk about these

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<v Speaker 1>things and you have characters giving a view points and

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<v Speaker 1>then arguing, like, show me two more long paragraphs where

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<v Speaker 1>he just goes back and forth about like this would

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<v Speaker 1>be a good foreign policy triumph and it people won't

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<v Speaker 1>call me a coward. But you know, we could also

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<v Speaker 1>just do it later. And it's just it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>again said, reveal things about the characters of the individuals

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<v Speaker 1>in this administration by how they react and discuss the

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<v Speaker 1>different possibilities, Like chances are everyone would have a different

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<v Speaker 1>viewpoint and then I would learn something about each one

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<v Speaker 1>of them based on their viewpoint. Yeah, yeah, do the

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<v Speaker 1>thing like watch a single episode. I normally wouldn't say this,

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<v Speaker 1>but watch a single episode of The West Wing, a

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<v Speaker 1>show that has characters that argue about things like what

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<v Speaker 1>to do and do that instead of this. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be my thought. I never thought not like

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<v Speaker 1>watch the West Wing would be like great advice, but

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<v Speaker 1>just watch the West Wing. Well, he wants to write television,

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<v Speaker 1>so he should know that dialogue is an option he does,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is it's one of the best options. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have dialogue in this momentum. Yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very it keep just keeps on going. In fact, Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>had been leading and leaving, leaning in the direction of

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<v Speaker 1>leaving things be, but two factors had decided him on action. First,

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<v Speaker 1>Prescott wanted a taste of glory. Just Prescott Prescott. Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>like Ben might a book, write a book, yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>have him be a character that does things. Don't just

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<v Speaker 1>like tell us have him like like Prescott like proposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. And then one of the characters says,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just want you just want it for the

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<v Speaker 1>glory or like what like obviously not that exactly because

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<v Speaker 1>that's bad, but like have people challenge him or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he explains why they're wrong, or he wavers

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe they're right or something. He has to ignore

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<v Speaker 1>good advice, and you like see him make a choice

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<v Speaker 1>to like yeah, yeah, no, instead that sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more work, Yeah, Or he could write an essay,

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<v Speaker 1>boring essay about it, like all the options. And it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out the president decides to bomb a sovereign nation

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<v Speaker 1>because that would make it difficult for Congress to turn

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<v Speaker 1>him down about his his work freedom program. The everybody

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<v Speaker 1>gets a job program that he wants to ram through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes that I'm Yeah. Congress famously is a huge fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States randomly bombing the capitals of sovereign nations. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you get whatever you want as president if

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<v Speaker 1>you are like, hey, guys, I just bombed Iran for

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<v Speaker 1>no good reason. What Ben is doing here is showing

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<v Speaker 1>us a stunning understanding of our government and how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? Is showing us done? Like he's

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<v Speaker 1>just showing us a window into what he thinks the

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<v Speaker 1>government should operate, Like what he thinks people should do

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get what they want. Yes, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I actually meant. Yeah, that really is what's going on here. Yeah. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so the president who again only cares about his

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<v Speaker 1>his uh like signature piece of social welfare legislation that's

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<v Speaker 1>clearly meant to frame him as a Nazi because the

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<v Speaker 1>work Freedom program are bite mocked fry, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Yeah, he already had his. So while he's

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<v Speaker 1>like getting his final briefings for the bombing of the

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<v Speaker 1>capital of a sovereign nation, Uh, he's daydreaming about the

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<v Speaker 1>work Freedom program, and he writes a slogan on his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what Ben calls a slogan protecting America from

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<v Speaker 1>those who would harm it. A broaden at home. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is a lot for a hand and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>for a slogan. That's a lot for a slogan. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's that Simpson's giant hand character tired of all these jokes,

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<v Speaker 1>giant hand. If Trump had hired been to to run

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<v Speaker 1>his campaign, it would be making America a country that

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<v Speaker 1>used to be better, better than it is currently because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not good enough right now, would be good for us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Comma America. Put that on a fucking hat. Uh. Second,

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<v Speaker 1>some right wing bloggers had caught onto Hawthorne signal. Mostly

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<v Speaker 1>they were kookie survivor caught onto Hawthorne, So okay. A

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of right wing bloggers had had found out that

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<v Speaker 1>he was okay, So Ben does include the internet cracking

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<v Speaker 1>the code. That's good. That's good. I got to be

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<v Speaker 1>fair to talking about cookie right wing bloggers, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>good too. Yeah. Mostly there were the cookie survivalist types,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of folks opposed to conspiracy theories and message boards.

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<v Speaker 1>But the CIA informed Prescott that's such information once you

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<v Speaker 1>get out could jeopardize any sort of attack. Um, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's that. Okay, I'll give Been credit for that one.

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<v Speaker 1>That that was Been that has been understanding a reality

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<v Speaker 1>of the world around him and then using it to

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<v Speaker 1>predict something in a a fictional scenario. Did he did that?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? So that's good, good sentence then. Yeah. Already

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<v Speaker 1>some of those nuts on Fox News had been making

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<v Speaker 1>oblique references to the rumors. Um, be nice to like

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<v Speaker 1>hear what that was? Like, how do you make an

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<v Speaker 1>oblique reference to people online believing that a US general

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<v Speaker 1>is calling for air strikes on till on using morse

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<v Speaker 1>code blinking, Like, how do you like, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>slightly reference that? I guess I'd like to know. That's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing where like show me that. Yeah, yeah, show

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<v Speaker 1>me the tell show me these things instead of just

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<v Speaker 1>telling me them in the least interesting way possible. So YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about how he decides not to do an

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<v Speaker 1>air strike and the CIA has its own thing that

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<v Speaker 1>they tell him to do and blah blah blah blah blah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, now he's in the situation room. We're back

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<v Speaker 1>around to where we were at the start of this chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>He's sort of explained he didn't really Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>um wait, so like we're it's still we're still in

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<v Speaker 1>the situation room, and now we really happened. They've just

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<v Speaker 1>described like they've just explained why we're here, as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to weeks of debate or days of debate you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had ended with like you know, he knew that it

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<v Speaker 1>was time for action. You know, sometimes you just can't

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<v Speaker 1>listen to other people's arguments. You have to make it

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<v Speaker 1>because also like you like just in terms of like storytelling,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's the chapter that you write, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like, here's yeah, debate, like it's here all of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that are happening, cryptographer whoever who figures it

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<v Speaker 1>out and informs the government, and then you have like

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<v Speaker 1>the meeting and like now this is again if President

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<v Speaker 1>Prescott and his administration are characters, if there's characters in

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<v Speaker 1>here that we like we can engage with and be

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<v Speaker 1>interested by, even if they're the bad guys, um or

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<v Speaker 1>if they're incompetent, If they're characters, but they're not characters there,

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, they're they're just like they're for been to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>their little wax sculptures. They're a little little action figures

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<v Speaker 1>for him to play with. Yeah, they're little action figures.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right. Um. Yeah, So he sends in I

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<v Speaker 1>guess a wet work team to go get this guy

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<v Speaker 1>out somehow. Um yeah, the C I A. Um, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. So he's told that the CIA success odds

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<v Speaker 1>are less than but he sends in the CIA team anyway. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a thanks. Thanks. Let's see here now. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA operatives, dressed in local garb, set a quick

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<v Speaker 1>burning charge on the outside of the iron work door.

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<v Speaker 1>It flared brightly but the alleyway, but in the only

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<v Speaker 1>way there was nobody to see it. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>operatives gently nudged the door open with its foot for

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<v Speaker 1>for him spread a dark hallway. No lights came in order, check,

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<v Speaker 1>whispered one of the men. They crept down the hallway,

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<v Speaker 1>visibility no greater than ten feet ahead to the sides,

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<v Speaker 1>ran door after Yeah. Okay, so it's been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>write an action scene. The guy identifies himself as police. Um, yadda, YadA, YadA, YadA, yadda. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of guys doing a doing a boring

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<v Speaker 1>special forces type raid thing. So the team, the team

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<v Speaker 1>finds Brett and he's uh, okay, well kind of yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the correct amant tore into the souls of Brett's feet,

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<v Speaker 1>gashing them, but Brett hardly felt it. He hadn't moved

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<v Speaker 1>this fast since high school football. Get the funk out

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<v Speaker 1>of here, he screamed at the Americans standing twenty yards

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<v Speaker 1>above him on this airs. They know you're here. Get out.

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<v Speaker 1>He heard the sound of a couple of safeties being

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<v Speaker 1>switched off, and then he saw the guns pointed directly

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<v Speaker 1>at him. Run you morons, he shouted. The operatives were

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<v Speaker 1>blocking the stairs, standing there idiotically. Then again, he had

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<v Speaker 1>time to think it was covered with blood from head

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<v Speaker 1>to toe. He didn't have time to explain the blood. However,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have time to explain the bodies of Yusuf

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<v Speaker 1>and his fellow Thuck. So we don't get any explanation.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he's killed a bunch of people. Um Brett has

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess freed himself. I think, what what has happened?

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't had another chapter of him, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>just yeah, they're just letting us know that, like without Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's already been working to get out. Oh, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>The next page or two is him explaining again, but

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<v Speaker 1>keeps doing this thing where like he's trying to he's

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<v Speaker 1>he'll have an action scene and it'll spend two pages

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<v Speaker 1>explaining all the things that happened before that action scene

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<v Speaker 1>that he was just at and he keeps doing it

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<v Speaker 1>this way instead of just telling a story. Like hate

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<v Speaker 1>when people do that, not just because bench a hero

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<v Speaker 1>does it, but I hate in general. Scripts are stories

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff where you're like you have to stop and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, did I miss something? I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it? Yeah, because he wanted he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't want to like write a complicated scene where

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<v Speaker 1>like this team breaks in and Brett has to like

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<v Speaker 1>free himself, like as they're sort of coming in and

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<v Speaker 1>like clearing the building and its tense. So instead like

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<v Speaker 1>he has them just greet him. Brett's already freed himself.

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<v Speaker 1>They meet him having freed himself, and he warns them

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a trap, and then we go back for

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<v Speaker 1>two pages and explain how he freed himself before this

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<v Speaker 1>all happened, so that we can return to the present.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable and if you're okay, So if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, fine, don't go back and explain it. Just

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<v Speaker 1>keep moving forward, like if if, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do the thing, We're like, oh, he's he was already

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<v Speaker 1>breaking out, and that's that's okay. Move on. Yeah, into

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<v Speaker 1>the last chapter on a night where like and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Brett began to you know, sawl Awagh it

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<v Speaker 1>like his his cuffs or something like as the guard

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and then like oh and then we see

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<v Speaker 1>him he's freed him self. Clearly this was set up before.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need you to go back to pages and

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<v Speaker 1>disrupt the flow of the narrative to detail in boring detail,

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<v Speaker 1>very boring detail of him killing these two Pakistani teenagers

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<v Speaker 1>or yeah, also just the phrase, uh, standing there idiotically

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<v Speaker 1>just right, and they were just standing there. He can

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<v Speaker 1>infer that they shouldn't be standing there doing anything. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to tell us that they're being idiotic about it. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's And also I should note here that Brett Hawthorne

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<v Speaker 1>stabs the teenage boy guarding him through the eye when

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<v Speaker 1>he is on the ground. Um, where do you get

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<v Speaker 1>a knife? Oh? I don't know it happens. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to read through this whole stupid fight, but he

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<v Speaker 1>stabs a teenage boy to death in the eye. That's

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<v Speaker 1>important for Ben to have happened. You know, who won't

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<v Speaker 1>stop a teenage boy on the eye, your mom in

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<v Speaker 1>the is in America's current political climate, I can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>almost anyone stabbing a teenage boy in the eye, and

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<v Speaker 1>the right circumstances way to make it real. Yeah, well

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that's fair politics. But it's uh, it's time for it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for an ad Breck, not politics, Robert, it is

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<v Speaker 1>time for an ad break. We're back. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I for one am excited about the next chapter, which

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<v Speaker 1>is going to come after this. So, yeah, we also

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<v Speaker 1>during the President's chapter, we we went back to so

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<v Speaker 1>we cut to the CIA team, uh, freeing him like

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<v Speaker 1>that was So we start with the perspective of the president,

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<v Speaker 1>the perspective of the CIA team, and we immediately go

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<v Speaker 1>from that to the perspective of Brett Hawthorne, which is

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<v Speaker 1>how we end the episode without any sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>clear break. It's bad, it's horrible. Right, you're gonna divide

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<v Speaker 1>your chapters up into characters. Do the thing that set

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<v Speaker 1>up the book to do and you don't have to

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>do that. But don't have to do that, you have

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>to keep doing that otherwise it's very confusing and awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, so I okay, but we know we do

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<v Speaker 1>get back to we do get out of So Brett

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<v Speaker 1>tells the operatives to run, run, you morons, he shouted.

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<v Speaker 1>When the operatives finally recognized General Bret Hawthorne, dressed and

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<v Speaker 1>covered with blood, they turned and ran. They just run

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<v Speaker 1>like he tells them to run, and they trained CIA operatives.

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<v Speaker 1>Just run. Yeah. They smashed their way down the hallway.

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<v Speaker 1>No time for discretion, now, no time for descretion your

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<v Speaker 1>As they smashed their way down the hallway. As the

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<v Speaker 1>basement exploded, rocking the ground beneath them, two of the

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<v Speaker 1>men fell. Brett vaulted them, yelling at them to get up,

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<v Speaker 1>grabbing one button. Good god, what a sentence. Two of

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<v Speaker 1>the men fell, semicolon. Brett vaulted them, Comma, yelling at

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<v Speaker 1>them to get up, Comma, grabbing one by his bulletproof

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<v Speaker 1>vest and virtually throwing him down the hallway with his

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<v Speaker 1>good hand. Period. That might be the worst sentence yet,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that is How do you virtually throw someone.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know what, I'd like to find out,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of people I'd like to virtually throw. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I am very upset about that. There's it's Ben has

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<v Speaker 1>no idea how to use the active or passive voice.

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<v Speaker 1>So the very next sentences, civilians heads popped out into

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the hallway as the explosion registered. Semi they pop out,

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>they pop up, their heads out, Ben, maybe Brett looked

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>over his shoulder to see them engulfed in the flame

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that poured down the hallway like water through a flooding pipeline.

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:52.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe there's another piece of the secret Ben

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Shapiro understanding, and the fact that the civilians don't take

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>an action. Their heads just pop out and then they die.

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>But it's not their action. Their heads just pop out

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>into the hallway. Whereas Brett gets to have a direct action,

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>he looks over his shoulder because he is is a

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 1>human being. Um, everyone else is just popping They just

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>pop out their head their heads pop out. No, they

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>don't pop out, their heads, Cody, their heads popped out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I just yes, yes, a blest if he rocketed him

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>through the door at the end of the hallway. The

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 1>other operatives sprinted ahead. One man behind him screamed inhumanly

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>as the fire caught him, but turned back pushed the

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>man down into the dust, smelling his sizzling flesh as

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>he tried to put out the flames. The man screams

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>finally stopped as he fell unconscious. One of the other

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>operatives grabbed the burning man by one arm, Brett grabbed

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the other. Together they ran down the alleyway into the darkness.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:58.120
<v Speaker 1>And then we're back into the situation room. Uh after all, yes,

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>this is the president him in the Joint Chiefs turns

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>back to the President and says, they knew we were coming,

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Mr President, They knew we were coming. What do you mean,

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Prescott asked, you were just watching the explosion? And then

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:11.120
<v Speaker 1>how do you think our guys got out of there

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>so easily? Afterwards? The Iranians must have known as Shami

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>was there, they've been housing him. They just didn't want

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>to fight us directly. That's all they were expecting, as

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>shamis thugs to take our guys out, and when that

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't happen, they backed off. That's a lot of conclusions

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>to draw. Chairman of the Joint chiefs of staff based

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>on a chaotic video, it seems like it's your job

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>to not do that. But Ben needs to inform the

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>audience very directly of what just happened, rather than yeah,

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>because he's not sure that his prose is clear. You

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>got to clarify, yeah. Uh so. But of course the

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 1>President thinks the general silly for being disturbed by this

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and tells him to just take the night off because

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>they rescued Bret Hawthorne. So everything's fine. Um, everything's fine,

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>rings fine, the people are stabbed and burned, everything's fine. So. Uh.

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>This is Ellen's chapter starts in Austin, Texas. She's obviously

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>happy that her husband he's coming home. Yeah, he's on

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>he's on his way back. He Prescott. The President has

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>just called her to tell her that her husband's coming home.

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Uh she she She notes that he expected praise from

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.239
<v Speaker 1>her and she had to dutifully give it to him,

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>just given where we are. Yeah, because he's he's he's

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>he's like Barack Obama. He requires the praise. Yeah. Yeah,

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>So she's very happy that her husband's coming home. She

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>hasn't seen him for a year. Uh, Prescott's doing a

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>big old victory. Lap YadA, YadA, YadA. It wasn't enough

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>for the president to make political hay off of her

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>husband's rescue after abandoning him in Afghanistan, and now he

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>turned Brett's home coming into a case for widespread troop withdrawals.

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>She should have figured that would have been the next

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>shoe to drop. Really a deep under standing of America,

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>like that's how this country works. Yeah, you gotta love

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that Ben is so disconnected from the basic reality if

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the things that he gets angry about that he thinks

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats have ever supported troop withdrawal in any meaningful

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>way from Afghanistan as opposed to what happened under Barack Obama,

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the guy who was president not all that long ago,

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>whose record in Afghanistan you can read about. The guy

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>he's lampooning. The guy he's trying to make a point about, Yes,

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>who massively surged US troop presence in Afghanistan for years. Um,

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>yeah cool, I'm yeah, take your word for it, Ben, Yeah,

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>good work, Ben, Um Yeah. So uh, Prescott talks. Yeah,

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>we're just going through her being disgusted that Prescott wants

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.959
<v Speaker 1>to take bring American troops home from other and again

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>like this is all just like I and I don't

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>have the book in front of me, thank god, but

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I imagine that what you are reading right now is

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>just Ben describing her thoughts and feelings generally like over

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>along along with describing what the president is doing. And yeah,

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't like, write a scene, write a fucking scene, Ben, Yes,

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>between them, you know, right her right her sitting and

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>watching TV with her family around her, and they all

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>react differently, and that gives her something to actually interact

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>with as a person, and we can see her mental

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>state maybe is announced. Yeah, she's watching it with like

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>her mom and her dad or her aunt or cousins

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and like some of them are like, oh,

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>that's such a nice thing for the presidents to say.

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>She gets angry and she snaps at them and screams

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>at them and reveals her feelings and also the fact

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>that she's on the fucking razor's edge. And then you

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>have a character like like like a scene and a

0:31:55.080 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>thing that people might want to read. Suggestion. I wrote

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a book and it's bad, which is why I didn't

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:07.959
<v Speaker 1>publish it. Yes, but it's just like it's like so

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>much of this reads like him summarizing what he wants

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>to happen. It's summary of a book, Like you think

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>your book was bad, the one that I read, Yeah,

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that was it bad? Okay, I read something nobody else did.

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>It is good. I feel special. I feel special. I

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>feel It's not the topic of discussion. Now to phenomenal

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>writer Robert Evans has been Shapiro's terrible book. You also

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>have a published book that everybody should buy instead of

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>published nonfiction book. But it's very different. Nonfiction and fiction

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>are completely it's phenomenal. You all should buy it. Yeah,

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>but uh so, Yeah, but gave gives Ellen the morning

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.719
<v Speaker 1>off because her husband's getting back from Afghanistan, which the

0:32:54.840 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>morning like a lot of time to give off, how general, Yeah,

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>even like I won't even let him have a nooner, Like, yeah,

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I might give him. You know what, if I'm the boss,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you might get a weekend for that, Like, yeah, have

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>breakfast with your husband, your your husband was kidnapped and

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>tortured in Iran. Take a three day you know, just

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple of you go down to Galveston, catch a

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>flesh eating virus. Monday though you're back in this seat,

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>or I swear to God I will fire you and

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>your family will starve on this, and you're gonna actually

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>have to stay stay late on Monday to make up

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>for the time that you took off. Yeah, I'm in

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>a need like a couple of double shifts Monday, let's

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>say Monday through Thursday next week to make up for

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the weekend. Yeah, we got the phone, rang. Ellen hastily

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>checked her bedside clock. It read seven fifty six am.

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>She'd overslept. She'd taken a sleeping pill to calm herself

0:33:56.840 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 1>down after the president's speech. Bubba had given it mo Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh.

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>They determinate the determinate, the determinedly cheery ring continued. She

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>leaned over picked up Ellen Hawthorne. She said, groggedly into

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the phone, It's it's me baby. Involuntarily, tears sprang to

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.879
<v Speaker 1>her eyes. We could just say. Tears sprang to her

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>eyes and said like, like, what are what is the

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>other option here? Ben? She forced tears to her eyes

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>during the call. It seven fifty six in the morning. Whatever,

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, you're all right, Brett. We don't have to

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 1>tell baby, I'm here. I'm fine. I can't tell you

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>where I am right now for security reasons. We're not

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 1>in an American airspace yet. But I need you to

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>call Bill. She immediately snapped to attention. Brett didn't need

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the loving wife right now, he needed the partner She

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>put on that hat. So many times it spring to

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>her without delay, what's going on? I need you to

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>conference in Bill? He'll know. Why can't you call him directly?

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't explain. I'm your only call. They're monitoring it.

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.280
<v Speaker 1>You got it? So I guess, like, if you're a

0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>general who gets kidnapped and tortured in Iran, lie somebody

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>who gets arrested by the cops, you get one phone call. Yep, yep. Also,

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I just like in such a short paragraph so many

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>times he indicated that she was acting hastily and immediately

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>snapping to attention very quickly, like, yeah, that's the phrase.

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>We get. It doesn't matter care. So the Bill that

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about is some general named Bill Callier that

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>we haven't met before. I don't believe um, but yeah,

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 1>So and again her husband uses his first and only

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 1>phone call, presumably to have his wife call another man

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 1>to deal with problems for him, which I do. Funny, Um, Bill,

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:43.919
<v Speaker 1>this is Ellen. I've got Bread on the other line.

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I need to conference you in do it? Which is again?

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Now this is the stuff, Ben, you don't need to

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>write out. You can just say she added him to

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the conversation. You like clicked the thing on her smartphone,

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Like we don't. We don't need to hear her conference

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>in this other guy into the conversation. Yeah, the most

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>unnecessary dialogue juxtaposed with like no dialogue that we desperately want. Yes,

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:15.240
<v Speaker 1>so there's some stupid movie greetings between this old grizzled

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>general who I think is the mentor to Brett and

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Brett and then, uh, Bill, I need you to get

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>your boys on something. I need them to find a

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>known associate of a Shami's names mohammed him down. I

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>need you, guys, I need your boys to find a

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>guy he has the most common name on planet Earth.

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Can you find John yet? I don't know what I'm

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about, but I don't have his last name name Joe. Well,

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>why don't you give me something tougher to do, Like

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 1>find a specific Mexican named Juan. He's coming here to

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the United States. He's about five ft nine, one, skinny,

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe seventeen years old. Another seventeen year old. You just

0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 1>stabbed one to death? Ben, What is wrong with you?

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I want to know. It is weird. I don't like it.

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Skinny maybe seventeen years old, blue eyes, angular face, sharp,

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>big nose. Get your boys on it. There's not much done.

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>So we're looking for a big nose boy named Mohammed.

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh get me all the Mohammed's with all the noses

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you can find, you see, Oh god? And then he

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>hangs up. That's all the info he gets on. Okay,

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh no, No, he's still on the line with with Ellen.

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 1>They just this was a conference call. He wants he

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 1>wants he wants General Brett Hawthorne to only have one

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.439
<v Speaker 1>phone call for story reasons that are unclear as of yet,

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:56.720
<v Speaker 1>but he also needs him to talk to multiple people.

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>So we're doing this awkward hung up, you met Brett Hawthorne?

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Hung up? All right, He's still on the line. He

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>also I think he also wants Ellen and Brett to

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>be like a badass Patriot team. But the only thing

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>he can think of her to do is to act

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 1>as the center of a of a three way phone call. Um,

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 1>so that's worth noting. Like it's like we're talking like

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it's some star Trek nineteen sixty bullshit right before before

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you know. Anyway, I'm sure Ben thinks it's a big deal.

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Are you okay, honey, Ellen asked after she knew Callier

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>had clicked off the line. She could hear him sigh

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:39.240
<v Speaker 1>audibly if she could hear him sigh, Bini, it was audibly,

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.280
<v Speaker 1>if you okay, you could She could hear him sigh.

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>There's the sentence, you could okay? Yeah, he sighed. So

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>many ways to cut words out of this, Yeah, but

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>don't help. Yeah. It's like they say, brevity is the

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>soul of like you got to use the words, right, Yeah,

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>it was the soul of all the words colon, the

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>words that you gotta use, comma, you gotta use them

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 1>so that people understand what you're saying. The words that is,

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the words that you use breviatari Lee that that's Shakespeare alright.

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 1>So so he she hears him, She hears him. I

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know, sweetheart, I don't know what I'm doing here,

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>why I'm doing it. What they did to my guys

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>in Afghanistan. I know, sweetheart, I know that's not a conversation. Um, Ellen,

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't supposed to live. That wasn't the message I gave.

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I blinked, air strike, not tactical mission, not rescue, air strike.

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Are you bummed that they used a surgical method that

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>rescued you and didn't kill dozens of people? Like a

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>shami was gone, the bad guy was gone. The air

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>strike would not have okay. Like also, he's like mad

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I shouldn't be alive. I said, air

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>strike on at him to bomb Tehran. But you escaped,

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>You did the escaping. Yeah, yeah, were also like you

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>stabbed that seventeen year old boy to death. Those CIA.

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>It's just unbelievable. Yes, but sweetheart, you're alive. You're coming home.

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I know you feel guilty. I know you never meant

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>to leave your men behind, but you alive is better

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.399
<v Speaker 1>than you dead. Me alive isn't better than a shammy dead.

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>He was there, Ellen, he was there. I gave him

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the location. I knew they'd have time to take the shot.

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>But there's no explanation as to why, because they've like

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>film and edit a video and then put it out

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's a terrorist whatever. But Prescott, damn him, didn't

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>have the balls. He just didn't. And now with Shammi's

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.320
<v Speaker 1>out there planning. He's smart, ellen, smart as hell, and

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>he steps ahead of us. We were lucky to get

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 1>out of there alive. If it hadn't been for a

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>stupid thug named Yusuf, we'd all seventeen year old thug,

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>we'd all be dead, and Prescott wouldn't have an international incident,

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 1>would have an international incident on his hand anyway, dead

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Americans in their body parts spread all over Tehran. Damn

0:40:55.800 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the man, Damn him again, Like the reason to hate

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>this president is that he didn't do an air strike.

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>He didn't immediately jump to an air strike based on

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:14.280
<v Speaker 1>a man blinking. Very cool. Yeah. So, so she's happy

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 1>that her husband's coming home. Oh God, I have to

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>read this part, even though I think it might actually

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>kill me to say, like, I don't know that I'm

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>going to live through this. She found tears in her

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>eyes again. Her man's her strong, unwavering man is so

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>ready to die. That's not a sentence, not a sentence. Bin,

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>But you're coming home, sweetheart, You're coming home. On the

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>other end of the phone, she could hear her husband exhale.

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>You're right, he said, slowly. I'm coming home. Take a

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>bullet for you, babe, She said, take a bullet for you, sweetheart.

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>The line kicked clicked dead. Yeah, that's how they end

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:55.919
<v Speaker 1>all their phone calls. I know, I know. It makes

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it's the worst thing I've ever seen on paper. With authority,

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I can say this with conviction. If I made it

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>this far, I would slam the book down here. If

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I made it this far, you wouldn't enough. No. But yeah,

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I've read just straight up Nazi propaganda that was less

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>pain inducing in its prose than that sentence. Like Jesus,

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 1>it's a real slogan. Yeah, we have to take another break,

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>don't we. Yeah. Yeah, And in case you're listening, I

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 1>am comparing this unfavorably to the Turner Diaries. Um, yeah,

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>don't worry. He's also written articles that read like the

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Turner Diaries too, so he sure, hass yeah, But you

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>know what doesn't read like the Turner Diaries the products

0:42:53.239 --> 0:43:05.280
<v Speaker 1>and services that support this podcast. We are we are back.

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>We are back in reading ben Ship Heroes Roll Roll Book.

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I do want to think. Let's let's

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 1>take a moment before we dive back into the story.

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>To think about the fact that Herman Kaine died from

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen after attending a Trump rally, And now the

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 1>people who run the social media accounts he used to

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>tweet from when he was alive are tweeting that it's

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 1>not a real virus. And that's that's pretty great. That's

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>a hard pivot, but I'm here for it. Yeah, it's wild. Um,

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>not not that convincing, But it is art. It is art.

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it says literally everything that matters about the

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:50.839
<v Speaker 1>time we're in right now. Um, no one, no one

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 1>even really cares like it's it's not it's not something

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:58.839
<v Speaker 1>people give a shit about. Yeah, it's gone. It's it's

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's said done. And God, it's one of those

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>stories that um takes my already full cup a little

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>bit over the edge in such a way that you're like,

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm mad about it. I have to let it spill,

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I have to let it roll down the side this

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 1>container and evaporate. Oh that was a little bit of

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 1>a poetic metaphor, a poeto for a poetoph m hmm.

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to this bad let's let's let's let's

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I keep yawning. And it's not because of you guys,

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't sleep well. No, it's the book. Um, are

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>we still in the Ellen chapter? Is it? Like? God, yeah,

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.479
<v Speaker 1>we're I think we're yep, we are still okay because

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 1>they're still on the phone, or like they just hung

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>up the cutest way possible. And then and then the

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>next paragraph just lets us know that Bill Collier got

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 1>a hall from his wife a minute and twenty nine

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>seconds later and he let it go to voicemail because

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>he was tracking down the man named Mohammed. Uh, how

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 1>does Ellen? And then we're back to I don't know

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that that paragraph just happens, um, with no understanding of

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>like how we're aware of that? How are anyway? It

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 1>just is there. And then we're back to Ellen in

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 1>a separate pair notes for his book. It doesn't like

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that unbelievable. Yeah. The first phone call Ellen received came

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 1>from Bubba, which didn't she He told me to turn

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 1>on the television. When she did, she saw the George

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Washington Bridge tilting and low motion. Oh so there's been

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a terrorist attack on the bridge. Um. Yeah, so wow,

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>And this just is all one paragraph that the George

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Washington Bridge has been blown up and the President's vowed

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to take care of the perpetrators one single paragraph. Uh,

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and that he's mobilizing National Guard troops to go to

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>New York City one paragraph. We learn all of that

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>information after Uh yeah, just putstanding. I'm skipping a lot

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>of paragraphs, so I might have skipped that one. Yeah, yeah,

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 1>then you'd go right to Then she heard a knock

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>at her door. Then being after realizing that another nine

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.400
<v Speaker 1>eleven had just occurred and the President had already reacted

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 1>to it and the National Guard had been mobilized. Then

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:24.360
<v Speaker 1>she heard a knock at her door. When she opened it,

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Bubba was standing there. His face looked gaunt ashen. She

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>ushered him into the living room, where he settled his

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>bulk into her leather couch. I got a call from Prescott.

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 1>He wants our boys out here. They're a SAP. I know,

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I saw it on the news. I won't send them elon,

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 1>she shuddered, involuntarily. You know by law that you have to.

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 1>The National Guard can be mobilized by the president once

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a national emergency has been declared under the under posse comitatus.

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>That isn't totally clear, but this ain't about law anymore.

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 1>It hasn't been for a long time. We pull our

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 1>troops off that border, and I'll have more dead ranchers

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:56.360
<v Speaker 1>on my hands, more children floating in that river. I

0:46:56.360 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 1>don't have the stomach for that. I do believe there

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 1>might be enough National guardsmen to both clean up from

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 1>a bridge being bombed in New York and to do

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever bullshit they're doing on the border. We kind of

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.800
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of them. Is the whole National Guard

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:18.919
<v Speaker 1>on the border, just all of them? Huh every hand unbelievable, Um,

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>not perfectly believable. I misspoke, very believable. Yeah, so okay,

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 1>so it's just it's okay, So it's the governor of

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Texas is not sending his States National Guard to help

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:33.959
<v Speaker 1>New York because they're needed at the border. That makes sense, Like, yeah,

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 1>use other people. Yeah, they're the only thing standing between

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 1>us and a full scale invasion. The invasion is in

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:46.399
<v Speaker 1>slow is slow motion? Yeah, the invasion. Yeah. And and

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the response to that is the invasion is slow motion.

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 1>That situation in New York isn't um which I guess

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>has just been doing some straight up, uh fucking white

0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 1>supremacist ship right there. Uh wow, Yeah, it does slow

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>motion invasion. They're going to infect us. Yeah, um, that's good. Uh.

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 1>She glances at the television. The rescue pool was crew

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 1>was pulling another body from the water, a young girl

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>wearing a Disneyland sweatshirt. It was footage Ellen knew from

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>nine eleven that they'd only showed a day during live coverage.

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Then the psychiatrist would explain to the network break Jesus, Yeah,

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:33.919
<v Speaker 1>So Ellen is you know, guilt ridden because she cares

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 1>about what's happening in New York City and she watched

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>eleven happen in person, I think, uh, and she's horrified

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.319
<v Speaker 1>that her boss isn't going to send troops to help

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:45.880
<v Speaker 1>with the explosion that just happened in New York. And

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:47.959
<v Speaker 1>so she turns back to the TV and I'm gonna

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 1>read the sentence here. The rescue crew crew was pulling

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.720
<v Speaker 1>another body from the water. Dash a young girl wearing

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 1>a Disneyland sweatshirt. Period it was footage Comma. Ellen knew

0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 1>from nine eleven Comma that they'd only show today Comma

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>during life coverage. Dash. Then the psychiatrist would explain to

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the network brass that showing such images was triggering comma

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and the pictures would disappear to spare the sensitivities of

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the American viewer. God, that's a sentence. How did she know? Also?

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 1>What because the nine eleven they showed horrible bloody footage

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and then they stopped showing horrible bloody footage. All the

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 1>time news agencies show things that are not footage from

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 1>nine eleven of dead people and that's bad. Um a

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 1>really dumb question of mine. But did people end up

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>in the river in nine eleven? Um? I don't think so.

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't think the river was a

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:46.879
<v Speaker 1>big part of nine eleven. This is I mean, it's

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:53.919
<v Speaker 1>just like I don't know. They're yeah, it's badly whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I know what he's saying, but

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 1>not because of his writing. That's fine, we don't need

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to understand it. Let's give it like it's it's like

0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the nine like none eleven happened. They showed footage and

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that was damaging psychologically, and and and she knows that,

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and so when she sees this new footage of this

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:17.120
<v Speaker 1>new it makes her think like, oh, they shouldn't be

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:20.279
<v Speaker 1>showing this footage, right, is that what he's saying. I

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 1>think that she's saying that there's footage from nine eleven

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:27.240
<v Speaker 1>of somebody being pulled from a river and they're playing

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not She's just saying that the footage from nine

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:34.680
<v Speaker 1>eleven that was very gory didn't get played enough after

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>nine eleven because psychiatrists explained that that's triggering and they

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>wanted to spare people sensitivities. And the idea is that, no,

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 1>we should always be aware of how bloody nine eleven was,

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>um and never stopped showing people horrible footage. Frum Itt,

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:50.840
<v Speaker 1>That's that's what is happening there. That's what she shouldn't

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>have had to think about this sentence so much. Anyway,

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:55.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a bad sentence, which is why would use the

0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 1>restaurant trying to figure it out. Yeah, So at the

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.359
<v Speaker 1>end of this, Bubba is like, you know, look, I'm

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 1>not going to send the National Guard, and Ellen's like,

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 1>what's the president gonna do if you turn him down?

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:06.480
<v Speaker 1>And Bubbles like, well, he's not going to send the

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 1>National Guard after me because they're all in New York. Um.

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's basically where this ends. Uh So next is

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 1>a chapter, so we have learned nothing about Ellen, very little,

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:22.400
<v Speaker 1>very a pretty cool wife. I don't know everything in

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that chapter that happened just happened to Ellen decisions. How

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:30.799
<v Speaker 1>many chapters are there less? Uh for a few more episodes,

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that's for darn shure. We're about we're we're about to

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 1>be We're about like the way through part two collapse

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know about of the book is the

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 1>end of the beginning? I don't know either case. He

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>went with the end of the beginning, didn't he? Yeah,

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I been wanted to write this into a series, but

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 1>then it was unreadable. But it was a horrible book. Um,

0:51:57.239 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>don't call your shot like that, buddy. No, don't call

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 1>your shot like that, buddy. Um So Solidad chapter She's

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>in Minno, North Dakota now from south uh, southern California,

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 1>which is quite a trek. Uh. They're not close, not

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 1>close places to one another. Um. Yeah, they made their

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:22.640
<v Speaker 1>way to the farm gradually. Uh, they made they'd made

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:24.440
<v Speaker 1>their way to the farm gradually. At first there were

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 1>only a few friends and family of the militia members

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and agglomeration of survivalists and nuts. I don't belong here,

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Solidad thought. Then she realized that they were here because

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:34.680
<v Speaker 1>of her Minno North Dakota lay near the banks of

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the Souris River, a midsized town a forty thousand just

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 1>south of the Canadian border. It was truly the middle

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. Solidad thought they'd moved north and north, the

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 1>north some more out of the populated areas outward, would

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 1>take a lot of manpower to track them down. They've

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:49.839
<v Speaker 1>nearly been tracked down in California. The authorities still thought

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.800
<v Speaker 1>they were there, having originally believed mistakenly that they'd been burned,

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that they'd been burned during the fire at the ranch.

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.040
<v Speaker 1>By the time investigators caught onto the fact that they

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:00.439
<v Speaker 1>were still alive, they were in Idaho. Every few days

0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 1>they moved until they reached Minot and Minno Aiden had

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 1>allies and friends. His parents had come from there before

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>moving south, and he still had a pack of relatives. Yeada, YadA, YadA.

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:11.399
<v Speaker 1>So this is again We're just gonna like tell you

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>summarize an exciting journey across the country while being tracked

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 1>by federal agencies and a couple of paragraphs because like

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:23.439
<v Speaker 1>we don't have time to care this ship. Yeah, yeah,

0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:26.359
<v Speaker 1>we want scenes in a book. He should just write

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>blot etcetera, etcetera. Yeah, yeah, we just wound up there.

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 1>So okay. They they're hunkering down with Aiden's family along

0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of an into an undetermined number of

0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 1>bikers and survivalists and militia members. Um who was going

0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to be the guys that decoded Brett's message? Probably right,

0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 1>we're probably gonna learn that. Yeah. Yeah. They start recruiting people,

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:55.640
<v Speaker 1>local boys who didn't want to be sent oh boy.

0:53:56.040 --> 0:54:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, they're all yeah, uh yeah, people who didn't

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>want to get called up to the National Guard. But

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess legally we're supposed to get called up and

0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 1>instead join a militia, which I believe is treason. Um,

0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I suspect you could. That's at least like modest treason.

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, mild treason, mild treason. So yeah, she starts

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 1>recruiting people and building a base in North Dakota. Uh

0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and it builds eventually a small force of nearly forty

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>uh Soli, dad knows all of them. She had a

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.959
<v Speaker 1>gift for connecting with people. It was the same gift

0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>that made her the staple of the evening news coverage,

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.240
<v Speaker 1>and she was truly interested in all them. It flattered

0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 1>most of them. All of them were grateful for a

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 1>place to go. Again, we just hear this. We don't

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>meet any of these people obviously. Yeah, yeah, I know,

0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>we're reading a constant montage. Yeah, she's riding a great epic.

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>We don't have time for the nitty or for pleasant trees. Yep.

0:54:57.800 --> 0:55:00.400
<v Speaker 1>So we learned about her literal little posse starting to

0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:06.600
<v Speaker 1>run short on money. Uh, YadA YadA, uh um. Yeah,

0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty boring stuff. Uh. We're just thinking about

0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:14.399
<v Speaker 1>how Aiden like goes to a bar after buying groceries

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:18.399
<v Speaker 1>to to sit and like watch the news sometimes. I'm

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 1>so I know that detail. Yeah great, So he learns

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 1>so I know nothing about this person from that. So

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and again Ben uses this detail of of this Aiden's

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the secret serviceman who shot down the helicopter. So he

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 1>goes to a bar after buying groceries to have a

0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:40.200
<v Speaker 1>beer and like watch TV and and catch up on

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the news coverage. Because they're not they don't have any

0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:46.360
<v Speaker 1>internet access or television like where they're all hiding out. Uh.

0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:48.799
<v Speaker 1>And this is mainly an opportunity for Ben to spend

0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 1>several more paragraphs talking about the foreign policy impacts of

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the raid on Tehran, and Ibraham is Shami's attack and

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:58.800
<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff. Uh, and his victory speech is

0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a terror. So it's all just more like news dumping

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:06.239
<v Speaker 1>shit um as opposed to I mean, I guess this

0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:08.120
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit of something, right, This is actually

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 1>this is actually an improvement for them. I'll give him that,

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 1>because normally Ben just tells us where a character is,

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:16.200
<v Speaker 1>spend several pages talking about things that just happened that

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:19.120
<v Speaker 1>we don't see off screen, and then moves on to

0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 1>like the narrative. And in this case, he's attempted to

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 1>weave this info dump, which we get every chapter, one

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:26.920
<v Speaker 1>of these info dumps. He's attempted to weave it into

0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the narrative because at least here Aiden sitting at a

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 1>bar getting angrier and he like shatters the bottle in

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.360
<v Speaker 1>his hand, cutting it because he's so angry at the news.

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:38.880
<v Speaker 1>This is this at least does build something of a

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:42.200
<v Speaker 1>character and shows him like it's it's a little bit

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>better than just giving a dump of things that happened. Yes, yeah,

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:49.400
<v Speaker 1>it illustrates a viewpoint and like an emotion. Uh. And

0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:53.880
<v Speaker 1>reaction from a character. It is still a montage though, Yeah,

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:57.360
<v Speaker 1>it is still a montage. And then Aiden's flipping channels

0:56:57.400 --> 0:56:59.880
<v Speaker 1>after breaking the beer and cutting his hand, and he

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:05.279
<v Speaker 1>comes across MSNBC covering the streets of Detroit. Um and

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 1>our our friend leave On, You remember leave On, the

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:14.879
<v Speaker 1>crack dealer, who's friends with whatever. Yeah, things could get

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 1>this could get out of control, the reporter said, a

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 1>hopeful gleam unmistakably shining in his eye. This morning, a

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:23.000
<v Speaker 1>leader of the uprising, one leave On Williams, posted a

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 1>list of demands on the website of the Fight Against

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Injustice and Racism Movement. That's what they're calling the Fair Movement.

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Here's what we know about Leavin Williams. He's a graduate

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 1>of the University of Michigan with a degree in African

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>American studies. No police record, model citizen by all accounts,

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 1>owns a barbership on eight Mile Road. According to public interviews,

0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 1>he's done. He came back to the community in an

0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 1>effort to bring prosperity home the shooting of Kendrick Malone. So, yeah,

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:48.200
<v Speaker 1>we just have this other character who hasn't had any

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 1>direct connection to Detroit learning about the things happening with

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the other characters in Detroit through the news

0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:58.000
<v Speaker 1>at a bar, because that's how you write a thrilling novel.

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:02.280
<v Speaker 1>So now we're just we're just playing an interview with

0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:04.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the other characters that a character who has

0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:07.720
<v Speaker 1>not met that character is watching on TV in a

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>completely different location. That has nothing to do with great

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:15.320
<v Speaker 1>incredible writing. Whose chapter is this? This is? This is

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Solo Dad's chapter. Also, yeah, we're we've moved on to

0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:26.160
<v Speaker 1>someone completely different, listening to an extended interview with someone

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:31.640
<v Speaker 1>else completely different, because this is a well written book. Again,

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:34.960
<v Speaker 1>pages go by, and we're talking about Levan's theories for

0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:37.439
<v Speaker 1>how the police force should be redone and like it's

0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 1>just amazing. Um, yeah, Solo Dads sitting on the porch

0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 1>of a cabin. We're back to her. Yeah, yeah, she's

0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>she's sipping tea. Uh. An old grizzled old recruit named

0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel Pope who's black and comes from Los Angeles, Uh,

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:01.320
<v Speaker 1>comes up to talk to her. I'm sure he's got

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:07.080
<v Speaker 1>some wisdom here. Um. Yeah, yeah. He was a lieutenant

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:09.800
<v Speaker 1>colonel uh and he he had been culled into his

0:59:09.840 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 1>superior's office just after the New York attack, told to

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>round up his men and get ready to ship out

0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 1>to New York. For some reason, he'd come to Sola

0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Dad instead. So he just again there's another dude committing

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 1>some treason to go hang out in North Dakota with

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 1>again like for some reason he did this, talk about it,

0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:31.320
<v Speaker 1>just like have her like show me, yeah, ever explained,

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:33.920
<v Speaker 1>have him explained, like why he's doing Like she's she's

0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, having a long dark tea time of the

0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 1>soul because she's brought all these people out here and

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>everything's getting worse and she doesn't know what to do.

0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:42.360
<v Speaker 1>And this guy says, you know, I followed you for

0:59:42.400 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 1>this reason or you know, here's what happened to me,

0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and like I decided, like wherever you were going to go,

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that's where I was going to go to. And like

0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:50.720
<v Speaker 1>then she knows she has the confidence to do the

0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:54.880
<v Speaker 1>thing that's necessary next or whatever, like and we the

0:59:55.000 --> 1:00:02.360
<v Speaker 1>reader understand and are slightly more engaged with what's going on. Yeah,

1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:05.480
<v Speaker 1>but instead, like we make it's made very clear by

1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Ben that Solid Dead actually has no controller agency in

1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:12.919
<v Speaker 1>in this situation, uh Aiden said. Aiden said he hadn't

1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:15.400
<v Speaker 1>given reason for the for deserting, but that he's but

1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:18.320
<v Speaker 1>he but he said that Ezekiel was trustworthy. Solidade had

1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:21.440
<v Speaker 1>no option but to trust Aiden's judgment. Ezekiel looked over

1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the snow falling silently into itself. He wore heavy work

1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:25.920
<v Speaker 1>gloves on his hand and an m force slung over

1:00:25.960 --> 1:00:29.120
<v Speaker 1>his shoulder, a maroon scarf around his neck. Solidad gestured

1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:32.000
<v Speaker 1>at the gun. What's that for? We're gearing up, gearing

1:00:32.080 --> 1:00:34.800
<v Speaker 1>up for what? Well? You tell us? After all, you're

1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the terrorist mama, that's what we're calling you now, you know.

1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Ever since the escape, she felt sick to herself. So

1:00:39.800 --> 1:00:41.760
<v Speaker 1>they're just like picking up guns for no reason and

1:00:41.800 --> 1:00:44.120
<v Speaker 1>saying like, Okay, we're all gonna go do something. You

1:00:44.160 --> 1:00:47.040
<v Speaker 1>have to tell us what like. But it's not up

1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:48.800
<v Speaker 1>to you to tell us to get armed in the

1:00:48.800 --> 1:00:50.480
<v Speaker 1>first place. We're just all gonna get armed, and then

1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:52.640
<v Speaker 1>to tell you it's time to figure out something random

1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:54.760
<v Speaker 1>to do. I don't know, none of this makes any sense.

1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:59.919
<v Speaker 1>This isn't how people act. Yeah, that's how they acted

1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:08.160
<v Speaker 1>bread and Bread's Ben's brain. Yeah, I hate Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>this guy tells her that the best defense is a

1:01:10.640 --> 1:01:13.600
<v Speaker 1>good offense. Uh. And when you're forces small concentrated and

1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:15.680
<v Speaker 1>hit them, well, they're weak. And she asks who are

1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:18.200
<v Speaker 1>they and he says, the same people who shut down

1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:22.960
<v Speaker 1>your farm, the people who attacked you, um, which are

1:01:23.040 --> 1:01:28.240
<v Speaker 1>back in California and there in North Dakota. UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>he tells her that they have to move or die now. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very unclear as to who he wants her

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot, or why, or who they could shoot that

1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:38.960
<v Speaker 1>would improve their situation, or how it would be related

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<v Speaker 1>to her farm being destroyed in south in southern California.

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<v Speaker 1>But but that's where this ends. Yeah, is him saying

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to move or die, and we have to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt the people who hurt you, who are thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>miles away. It's it is a great chapter. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I think it's about time that uh we

1:01:59.200 --> 1:02:03.120
<v Speaker 1>call this one the beach. Yeah. I think so our

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<v Speaker 1>next chapters will leave on chapter. I'm sure that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be fun. Yeah, well we'll get back to this. Don't worry, friends,

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<v Speaker 1>By the time we get to this next Uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>might just be a full on civil war like the

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<v Speaker 1>one been perfectly predicted here. And once what a nice

1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:25.800
<v Speaker 1>escape this has been It is a nice escape. It's

1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:32.680
<v Speaker 1>a nice escape into a world of people being very wrong. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose, seemingly. Yeah, Katie Cody, would you like to

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