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Speaker 1: This has been quite the introduction. Um, it's the last

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Speaker 1: this show, Sophie? This show is Behind the Bastards and

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Speaker 1: it's hosted by you, Robert Evans. I am, I am

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Speaker 1: your executive producer, Sophie lick Derman. Anderson is the is

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Speaker 1: Some More News, even More News, Worst Year Ever and

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Speaker 1: horse the horse. Everyone is has has boarded the horse.

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Speaker 1: tells the operatives to run, run, you morons, he shouted.

424
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: When the operatives finally recognized General Bret Hawthorne, dressed and

425
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: covered with blood, they turned and ran. They just run

426
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: like he tells them to run, and they trained CIA operatives.

427
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: Just run. Yeah. They smashed their way down the hallway.

428
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: No time for discretion, now, no time for descretion your

429
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: As they smashed their way down the hallway. As the

430
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: basement exploded, rocking the ground beneath them, two of the

431
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: men fell. Brett vaulted them, yelling at them to get up,

432
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: grabbing one button. Good god, what a sentence. Two of

433
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: the men fell, semicolon. Brett vaulted them, Comma, yelling at

434
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: them to get up, Comma, grabbing one by his bulletproof

435
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: vest and virtually throwing him down the hallway with his

436
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: good hand. Period. That might be the worst sentence yet,

437
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 1: I don't know that is How do you virtually throw someone.

438
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: If you don't know what, I'd like to find out,

439
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of people I'd like to virtually throw. Yeah,

440
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: I am very upset about that. There's it's Ben has

441
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: no idea how to use the active or passive voice.

442
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: So the very next sentences, civilians heads popped out into

443
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: the hallway as the explosion registered. Semi they pop out,

444
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: they pop up, their heads out, Ben, maybe Brett looked

445
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: over his shoulder to see them engulfed in the flame

446
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: that poured down the hallway like water through a flooding pipeline.

447
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 1: You know, maybe there's another piece of the secret Ben

448
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: Shapiro understanding, and the fact that the civilians don't take

449
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: an action. Their heads just pop out and then they die.

450
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: But it's not their action. Their heads just pop out

451
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: into the hallway. Whereas Brett gets to have a direct action,

452
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: he looks over his shoulder because he is is a

453
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: human being. Um, everyone else is just popping They just

454
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: pop out their head their heads pop out. No, they

455
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: don't pop out, their heads, Cody, their heads popped out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

456
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: I just yes, yes, a blest if he rocketed him

457
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: through the door at the end of the hallway. The

458
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: other operatives sprinted ahead. One man behind him screamed inhumanly

459
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: as the fire caught him, but turned back pushed the

460
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: man down into the dust, smelling his sizzling flesh as

461
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: he tried to put out the flames. The man screams

462
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: finally stopped as he fell unconscious. One of the other

463
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: operatives grabbed the burning man by one arm, Brett grabbed

464
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: the other. Together they ran down the alleyway into the darkness.

465
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: And then we're back into the situation room. Uh after all, yes,

466
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: this is the president him in the Joint Chiefs turns

467
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: back to the President and says, they knew we were coming,

468
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: Mr President, They knew we were coming. What do you mean,

469
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: Prescott asked, you were just watching the explosion? And then

470
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: how do you think our guys got out of there

471
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: so easily? Afterwards? The Iranians must have known as Shami

472
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: was there, they've been housing him. They just didn't want

473
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: to fight us directly. That's all they were expecting, as

474
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: shamis thugs to take our guys out, and when that

475
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: didn't happen, they backed off. That's a lot of conclusions

476
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: to draw. Chairman of the Joint chiefs of staff based

477
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: on a chaotic video, it seems like it's your job

478
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: to not do that. But Ben needs to inform the

479
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: audience very directly of what just happened, rather than yeah,

480
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: because he's not sure that his prose is clear. You

481
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: got to clarify, yeah. Uh so. But of course the

482
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: President thinks the general silly for being disturbed by this

483
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: and tells him to just take the night off because

484
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: they rescued Bret Hawthorne. So everything's fine. Um, everything's fine,

485
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: rings fine, the people are stabbed and burned, everything's fine. So. Uh.

486
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: This is Ellen's chapter starts in Austin, Texas. She's obviously

487
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: happy that her husband he's coming home. Yeah, he's on

488
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: he's on his way back. He Prescott. The President has

489
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: just called her to tell her that her husband's coming home.

490
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: Uh she she She notes that he expected praise from

491
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 1: her and she had to dutifully give it to him,

492
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: just given where we are. Yeah, because he's he's he's

493
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: he's like Barack Obama. He requires the praise. Yeah. Yeah,

494
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: So she's very happy that her husband's coming home. She

495
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: hasn't seen him for a year. Uh, Prescott's doing a

496
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: big old victory. Lap YadA, YadA, YadA. It wasn't enough

497
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: for the president to make political hay off of her

498
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: husband's rescue after abandoning him in Afghanistan, and now he

499
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: turned Brett's home coming into a case for widespread troop withdrawals.

500
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: She should have figured that would have been the next

501
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: shoe to drop. Really a deep under standing of America,

502
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: like that's how this country works. Yeah, you gotta love

503
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: that Ben is so disconnected from the basic reality if

504
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: the things that he gets angry about that he thinks

505
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: the Democrats have ever supported troop withdrawal in any meaningful

506
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: way from Afghanistan as opposed to what happened under Barack Obama,

507
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: the guy who was president not all that long ago,

508
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: whose record in Afghanistan you can read about. The guy

509
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: he's lampooning. The guy he's trying to make a point about, Yes,

510
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: who massively surged US troop presence in Afghanistan for years. Um,

511
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: yeah cool, I'm yeah, take your word for it, Ben, Yeah,

512
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: good work, Ben, Um Yeah. So uh, Prescott talks. Yeah,

513
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: we're just going through her being disgusted that Prescott wants

514
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: to take bring American troops home from other and again

515
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: like this is all just like I and I don't

516
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: have the book in front of me, thank god, but

517
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: I imagine that what you are reading right now is

518
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: just Ben describing her thoughts and feelings generally like over

519
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: along along with describing what the president is doing. And yeah,

520
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't like, write a scene, write a fucking scene, Ben, Yes,

521
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: between them, you know, right her right her sitting and

522
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: watching TV with her family around her, and they all

523
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: react differently, and that gives her something to actually interact

524
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: with as a person, and we can see her mental

525
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: state maybe is announced. Yeah, she's watching it with like

526
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: her mom and her dad or her aunt or cousins

527
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: or whatever, and like some of them are like, oh,

528
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: that's such a nice thing for the presidents to say.

529
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: She gets angry and she snaps at them and screams

530
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: at them and reveals her feelings and also the fact

531
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: that she's on the fucking razor's edge. And then you

532
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: have a character like like like a scene and a

533
00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: thing that people might want to read. Suggestion. I wrote

534
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: a book and it's bad, which is why I didn't

535
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 1: publish it. Yes, but it's just like it's like so

536
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: much of this reads like him summarizing what he wants

537
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: to happen. It's summary of a book, Like you think

538
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: your book was bad, the one that I read, Yeah,

539
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: that was it bad? Okay, I read something nobody else did.

540
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: It is good. I feel special. I feel special. I

541
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: feel It's not the topic of discussion. Now to phenomenal

542
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: writer Robert Evans has been Shapiro's terrible book. You also

543
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: have a published book that everybody should buy instead of

544
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: published nonfiction book. But it's very different. Nonfiction and fiction

545
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: are completely it's phenomenal. You all should buy it. Yeah,

546
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: but uh so, Yeah, but gave gives Ellen the morning

547
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 1: off because her husband's getting back from Afghanistan, which the

548
00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: morning like a lot of time to give off, how general, Yeah,

549
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: even like I won't even let him have a nooner, Like, yeah,

550
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: I might give him. You know what, if I'm the boss,

551
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: you might get a weekend for that, Like, yeah, have

552
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: breakfast with your husband, your your husband was kidnapped and

553
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: tortured in Iran. Take a three day you know, just

554
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: a couple of you go down to Galveston, catch a

555
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: flesh eating virus. Monday though you're back in this seat,

556
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: or I swear to God I will fire you and

557
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: your family will starve on this, and you're gonna actually

558
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: have to stay stay late on Monday to make up

559
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: for the time that you took off. Yeah, I'm in

560
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: a need like a couple of double shifts Monday, let's

561
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: say Monday through Thursday next week to make up for

562
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: the weekend. Yeah, we got the phone, rang. Ellen hastily

563
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: checked her bedside clock. It read seven fifty six am.

564
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: She'd overslept. She'd taken a sleeping pill to calm herself

565
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 1: down after the president's speech. Bubba had given it mo Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh.

566
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: They determinate the determinate, the determinedly cheery ring continued. She

567
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: leaned over picked up Ellen Hawthorne. She said, groggedly into

568
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: the phone, It's it's me baby. Involuntarily, tears sprang to

569
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: her eyes. We could just say. Tears sprang to her

570
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: eyes and said like, like, what are what is the

571
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: other option here? Ben? She forced tears to her eyes

572
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: during the call. It seven fifty six in the morning. Whatever,

573
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: Oh god, you're all right, Brett. We don't have to

574
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: tell baby, I'm here. I'm fine. I can't tell you

575
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: where I am right now for security reasons. We're not

576
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: in an American airspace yet. But I need you to

577
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: call Bill. She immediately snapped to attention. Brett didn't need

578
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: the loving wife right now, he needed the partner She

579
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: put on that hat. So many times it spring to

580
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: her without delay, what's going on? I need you to

581
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: conference in Bill? He'll know. Why can't you call him directly?

582
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: I can't explain. I'm your only call. They're monitoring it.

583
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: You got it? So I guess, like, if you're a

584
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: general who gets kidnapped and tortured in Iran, lie somebody

585
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: who gets arrested by the cops, you get one phone call. Yep, yep. Also,

586
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: I just like in such a short paragraph so many

587
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: times he indicated that she was acting hastily and immediately

588
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: snapping to attention very quickly, like, yeah, that's the phrase.

589
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: We get. It doesn't matter care. So the Bill that

590
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: they're talking about is some general named Bill Callier that

591
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: we haven't met before. I don't believe um, but yeah,

592
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: So and again her husband uses his first and only

593
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: phone call, presumably to have his wife call another man

594
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: to deal with problems for him, which I do. Funny, Um, Bill,

595
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: this is Ellen. I've got Bread on the other line.

596
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: I need to conference you in do it? Which is again?

597
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: Now this is the stuff, Ben, you don't need to

598
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: write out. You can just say she added him to

599
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: the conversation. You like clicked the thing on her smartphone,

600
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: Like we don't. We don't need to hear her conference

601
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: in this other guy into the conversation. Yeah, the most

602
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: unnecessary dialogue juxtaposed with like no dialogue that we desperately want. Yes,

603
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: so there's some stupid movie greetings between this old grizzled

604
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: general who I think is the mentor to Brett and

605
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: Brett and then, uh, Bill, I need you to get

606
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: your boys on something. I need them to find a

607
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: known associate of a Shami's names mohammed him down. I

608
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: need you, guys, I need your boys to find a

609
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: guy he has the most common name on planet Earth.

610
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: Can you find John yet? I don't know what I'm

611
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: talking about, but I don't have his last name name Joe. Well,

612
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: why don't you give me something tougher to do, Like

613
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: find a specific Mexican named Juan. He's coming here to

614
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: the United States. He's about five ft nine, one, skinny,

615
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: maybe seventeen years old. Another seventeen year old. You just

616
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: stabbed one to death? Ben, What is wrong with you?

617
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: I want to know. It is weird. I don't like it.

618
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: Skinny maybe seventeen years old, blue eyes, angular face, sharp,

619
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: big nose. Get your boys on it. There's not much done.

620
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: So we're looking for a big nose boy named Mohammed.

621
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: Uh get me all the Mohammed's with all the noses

622
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: you can find, you see, Oh god? And then he

623
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: hangs up. That's all the info he gets on. Okay,

624
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: Uh no, No, he's still on the line with with Ellen.

625
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: They just this was a conference call. He wants he

626
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: wants he wants General Brett Hawthorne to only have one

627
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: phone call for story reasons that are unclear as of yet,

628
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: but he also needs him to talk to multiple people.

629
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: So we're doing this awkward hung up, you met Brett Hawthorne?

630
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: Hung up? All right, He's still on the line. He

631
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: also I think he also wants Ellen and Brett to

632
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: be like a badass Patriot team. But the only thing

633
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: he can think of her to do is to act

634
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: as the center of a of a three way phone call. Um,

635
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: so that's worth noting. Like it's like we're talking like

636
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: it's some star Trek nineteen sixty bullshit right before before

637
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, I'm sure Ben thinks it's a big deal.

638
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: Are you okay, honey, Ellen asked after she knew Callier

639
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: had clicked off the line. She could hear him sigh

640
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: audibly if she could hear him sigh, Bini, it was audibly,

641
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: if you okay, you could She could hear him sigh.

642
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: There's the sentence, you could okay? Yeah, he sighed. So

643
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: many ways to cut words out of this, Yeah, but

644
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: don't help. Yeah. It's like they say, brevity is the

645
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: soul of like you got to use the words, right, Yeah,

646
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: it was the soul of all the words colon, the

647
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: words that you gotta use, comma, you gotta use them

648
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: so that people understand what you're saying. The words that is,

649
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: the words that you use breviatari Lee that that's Shakespeare alright.

650
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: So so he she hears him, She hears him. I

651
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: don't know, sweetheart, I don't know what I'm doing here,

652
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: why I'm doing it. What they did to my guys

653
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. I know, sweetheart, I know that's not a conversation. Um, Ellen,

654
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to live. That wasn't the message I gave.

655
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: I blinked, air strike, not tactical mission, not rescue, air strike.

656
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: Are you bummed that they used a surgical method that

657
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: rescued you and didn't kill dozens of people? Like a

658
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: shami was gone, the bad guy was gone. The air

659
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: strike would not have okay. Like also, he's like mad

660
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: and he's like, I shouldn't be alive. I said, air

661
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: strike on at him to bomb Tehran. But you escaped,

662
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: You did the escaping. Yeah, yeah, were also like you

663
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: stabbed that seventeen year old boy to death. Those CIA.

664
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable. Yes, but sweetheart, you're alive. You're coming home.

665
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: I know you feel guilty. I know you never meant

666
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: to leave your men behind, but you alive is better

667
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: than you dead. Me alive isn't better than a shammy dead.

668
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: He was there, Ellen, he was there. I gave him

669
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: the location. I knew they'd have time to take the shot.

670
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: But there's no explanation as to why, because they've like

671
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: film and edit a video and then put it out

672
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: and he's a terrorist whatever. But Prescott, damn him, didn't

673
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: have the balls. He just didn't. And now with Shammi's

674
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: out there planning. He's smart, ellen, smart as hell, and

675
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: he steps ahead of us. We were lucky to get

676
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: out of there alive. If it hadn't been for a

677
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: stupid thug named Yusuf, we'd all seventeen year old thug,

678
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: we'd all be dead, and Prescott wouldn't have an international incident,

679
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: would have an international incident on his hand anyway, dead

680
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: Americans in their body parts spread all over Tehran. Damn

681
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: the man, Damn him again, Like the reason to hate

682
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: this president is that he didn't do an air strike.

683
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: He didn't immediately jump to an air strike based on

684
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: a man blinking. Very cool. Yeah. So, so she's happy

685
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: that her husband's coming home. Oh God, I have to

686
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: read this part, even though I think it might actually

687
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: kill me to say, like, I don't know that I'm

688
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: going to live through this. She found tears in her

689
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: eyes again. Her man's her strong, unwavering man is so

690
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: ready to die. That's not a sentence, not a sentence. Bin,

691
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: But you're coming home, sweetheart, You're coming home. On the

692
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: other end of the phone, she could hear her husband exhale.

693
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: You're right, he said, slowly. I'm coming home. Take a

694
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: bullet for you, babe, She said, take a bullet for you, sweetheart.

695
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: The line kicked clicked dead. Yeah, that's how they end

696
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: all their phone calls. I know, I know. It makes

697
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: it's the worst thing I've ever seen on paper. With authority,

698
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: I can say this with conviction. If I made it

699
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: this far, I would slam the book down here. If

700
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: I made it this far, you wouldn't enough. No. But yeah,

701
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: I've read just straight up Nazi propaganda that was less

702
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: pain inducing in its prose than that sentence. Like Jesus,

703
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: it's a real slogan. Yeah, we have to take another break,

704
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: don't we. Yeah. Yeah, And in case you're listening, I

705
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: am comparing this unfavorably to the Turner Diaries. Um, yeah,

706
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: don't worry. He's also written articles that read like the

707
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: Turner Diaries too, so he sure, hass yeah, But you

708
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: know what doesn't read like the Turner Diaries the products

709
00:42:53,239 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: and services that support this podcast. We are we are back.

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00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: We are back in reading ben Ship Heroes Roll Roll Book.

711
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, I do want to think. Let's let's

712
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: take a moment before we dive back into the story.

713
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: To think about the fact that Herman Kaine died from

714
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen after attending a Trump rally, And now the

715
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: people who run the social media accounts he used to

716
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: tweet from when he was alive are tweeting that it's

717
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: not a real virus. And that's that's pretty great. That's

718
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: a hard pivot, but I'm here for it. Yeah, it's wild. Um,

719
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: not not that convincing, But it is art. It is art.

720
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: It's it's it says literally everything that matters about the

721
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: time we're in right now. Um, no one, no one

722
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: even really cares like it's it's not it's not something

723
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: people give a shit about. Yeah, it's gone. It's it's

724
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: it's it's said done. And God, it's one of those

725
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: stories that um takes my already full cup a little

726
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: bit over the edge in such a way that you're like,

727
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm mad about it. I have to let it spill,

728
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: I have to let it roll down the side this

729
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: container and evaporate. Oh that was a little bit of

730
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: a poetic metaphor, a poeto for a poetoph m hmm.

731
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: Let's get back to this bad let's let's let's let's

732
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: I keep yawning. And it's not because of you guys,

733
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep well. No, it's the book. Um, are

734
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: we still in the Ellen chapter? Is it? Like? God, yeah,

735
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 1: we're I think we're yep, we are still okay because

736
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: they're still on the phone, or like they just hung

737
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: up the cutest way possible. And then and then the

738
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: next paragraph just lets us know that Bill Collier got

739
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: a hall from his wife a minute and twenty nine

740
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: seconds later and he let it go to voicemail because

741
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: he was tracking down the man named Mohammed. Uh, how

742
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: does Ellen? And then we're back to I don't know

743
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: that that paragraph just happens, um, with no understanding of

744
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: like how we're aware of that? How are anyway? It

745
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: just is there. And then we're back to Ellen in

746
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: a separate pair notes for his book. It doesn't like

747
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: that unbelievable. Yeah. The first phone call Ellen received came

748
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: from Bubba, which didn't she He told me to turn

749
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: on the television. When she did, she saw the George

750
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: Washington Bridge tilting and low motion. Oh so there's been

751
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: a terrorist attack on the bridge. Um. Yeah, so wow,

752
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: And this just is all one paragraph that the George

753
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: Washington Bridge has been blown up and the President's vowed

754
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: to take care of the perpetrators one single paragraph. Uh,

755
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: and that he's mobilizing National Guard troops to go to

756
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: New York City one paragraph. We learn all of that

757
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: information after Uh yeah, just putstanding. I'm skipping a lot

758
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: of paragraphs, so I might have skipped that one. Yeah, yeah,

759
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: then you'd go right to Then she heard a knock

760
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: at her door. Then being after realizing that another nine

761
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: eleven had just occurred and the President had already reacted

762
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: to it and the National Guard had been mobilized. Then

763
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: she heard a knock at her door. When she opened it,

764
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: Bubba was standing there. His face looked gaunt ashen. She

765
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: ushered him into the living room, where he settled his

766
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: bulk into her leather couch. I got a call from Prescott.

767
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: He wants our boys out here. They're a SAP. I know,

768
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: I saw it on the news. I won't send them elon,

769
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: she shuddered, involuntarily. You know by law that you have to.

770
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: The National Guard can be mobilized by the president once

771
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: a national emergency has been declared under the under posse comitatus.

772
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: That isn't totally clear, but this ain't about law anymore.

773
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: It hasn't been for a long time. We pull our

774
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: troops off that border, and I'll have more dead ranchers

775
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: on my hands, more children floating in that river. I

776
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: don't have the stomach for that. I do believe there

777
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: might be enough National guardsmen to both clean up from

778
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: a bridge being bombed in New York and to do

779
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: whatever bullshit they're doing on the border. We kind of

780
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: have a lot of them. Is the whole National Guard

781
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: on the border, just all of them? Huh every hand unbelievable, Um,

782
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: not perfectly believable. I misspoke, very believable. Yeah, so okay,

783
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: so it's just it's okay, So it's the governor of

784
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: Texas is not sending his States National Guard to help

785
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 1: New York because they're needed at the border. That makes sense, Like, yeah,

786
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: use other people. Yeah, they're the only thing standing between

787
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: us and a full scale invasion. The invasion is in

788
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: slow is slow motion? Yeah, the invasion. Yeah. And and

789
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: the response to that is the invasion is slow motion.

790
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: That situation in New York isn't um which I guess

791
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: has just been doing some straight up, uh fucking white

792
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: supremacist ship right there. Uh wow, Yeah, it does slow

793
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: motion invasion. They're going to infect us. Yeah, um, that's good. Uh.

794
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: She glances at the television. The rescue pool was crew

795
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: was pulling another body from the water, a young girl

796
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: wearing a Disneyland sweatshirt. It was footage Ellen knew from

797
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: nine eleven that they'd only showed a day during live coverage.

798
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: Then the psychiatrist would explain to the network break Jesus, Yeah,

799
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: So Ellen is you know, guilt ridden because she cares

800
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: about what's happening in New York City and she watched

801
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: eleven happen in person, I think, uh, and she's horrified

802
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: that her boss isn't going to send troops to help

803
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: with the explosion that just happened in New York. And

804
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 1: so she turns back to the TV and I'm gonna

805
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: read the sentence here. The rescue crew crew was pulling

806
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: another body from the water. Dash a young girl wearing

807
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: a Disneyland sweatshirt. Period it was footage Comma. Ellen knew

808
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: from nine eleven Comma that they'd only show today Comma

809
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: during life coverage. Dash. Then the psychiatrist would explain to

810
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: the network brass that showing such images was triggering comma

811
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: and the pictures would disappear to spare the sensitivities of

812
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: the American viewer. God, that's a sentence. How did she know? Also?

813
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: What because the nine eleven they showed horrible bloody footage

814
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: and then they stopped showing horrible bloody footage. All the

815
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: time news agencies show things that are not footage from

816
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: nine eleven of dead people and that's bad. Um a

817
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: really dumb question of mine. But did people end up

818
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: in the river in nine eleven? Um? I don't think so.

819
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think the river was a

820
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: big part of nine eleven. This is I mean, it's

821
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 1: just like I don't know. They're yeah, it's badly whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

822
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: I think I think I know what he's saying, but

823
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: not because of his writing. That's fine, we don't need

824
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: to understand it. Let's give it like it's it's like

825
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: the nine like none eleven happened. They showed footage and

826
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: that was damaging psychologically, and and and she knows that,

827
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: and so when she sees this new footage of this

828
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: new it makes her think like, oh, they shouldn't be

829
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: showing this footage, right, is that what he's saying. I

830
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: think that she's saying that there's footage from nine eleven

831
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: of somebody being pulled from a river and they're playing

832
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: that's not She's just saying that the footage from nine

833
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: eleven that was very gory didn't get played enough after

834
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: nine eleven because psychiatrists explained that that's triggering and they

835
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: wanted to spare people sensitivities. And the idea is that, no,

836
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: we should always be aware of how bloody nine eleven was,

837
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: um and never stopped showing people horrible footage. Frum Itt,

838
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: That's that's what is happening there. That's what she shouldn't

839
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: have had to think about this sentence so much. Anyway,

840
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: it's a bad sentence, which is why would use the

841
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: restaurant trying to figure it out. Yeah, So at the

842
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: end of this, Bubba is like, you know, look, I'm

843
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: not going to send the National Guard, and Ellen's like,

844
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: what's the president gonna do if you turn him down?

845
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: And Bubbles like, well, he's not going to send the

846
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: National Guard after me because they're all in New York. Um.

847
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: And that's basically where this ends. Uh So next is

848
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: a chapter, so we have learned nothing about Ellen, very little,

849
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: very a pretty cool wife. I don't know everything in

850
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: that chapter that happened just happened to Ellen decisions. How

851
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: many chapters are there less? Uh for a few more episodes,

852
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: that's for darn shure. We're about we're we're about to

853
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: be We're about like the way through part two collapse

854
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: and I don't know about of the book is the

855
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: end of the beginning? I don't know either case. He

856
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: went with the end of the beginning, didn't he? Yeah,

857
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: I been wanted to write this into a series, but

858
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: then it was unreadable. But it was a horrible book. Um,

859
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: don't call your shot like that, buddy. No, don't call

860
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: your shot like that, buddy. Um So Solidad chapter She's

861
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: in Minno, North Dakota now from south uh, southern California,

862
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: which is quite a trek. Uh. They're not close, not

863
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: close places to one another. Um. Yeah, they made their

864
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: way to the farm gradually. Uh, they made they'd made

865
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: their way to the farm gradually. At first there were

866
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: only a few friends and family of the militia members

867
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: and agglomeration of survivalists and nuts. I don't belong here,

868
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: Solidad thought. Then she realized that they were here because

869
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: of her Minno North Dakota lay near the banks of

870
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: the Souris River, a midsized town a forty thousand just

871
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: south of the Canadian border. It was truly the middle

872
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Solidad thought they'd moved north and north, the

873
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: north some more out of the populated areas outward, would

874
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: take a lot of manpower to track them down. They've

875
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: nearly been tracked down in California. The authorities still thought

876
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: they were there, having originally believed mistakenly that they'd been burned,

877
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: that they'd been burned during the fire at the ranch.

878
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: By the time investigators caught onto the fact that they

879
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: were still alive, they were in Idaho. Every few days

880
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: they moved until they reached Minot and Minno Aiden had

881
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: allies and friends. His parents had come from there before

882
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: moving south, and he still had a pack of relatives. Yeada, YadA, YadA.

883
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: So this is again We're just gonna like tell you

884
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: summarize an exciting journey across the country while being tracked

885
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: by federal agencies and a couple of paragraphs because like

886
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: we don't have time to care this ship. Yeah, yeah,

887
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: we want scenes in a book. He should just write

888
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: blot etcetera, etcetera. Yeah, yeah, we just wound up there.

889
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: So okay. They they're hunkering down with Aiden's family along

890
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: with a bunch of an into an undetermined number of

891
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: bikers and survivalists and militia members. Um who was going

892
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: to be the guys that decoded Brett's message? Probably right,

893
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna learn that. Yeah. Yeah. They start recruiting people,

894
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: local boys who didn't want to be sent oh boy.

895
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: Um yeah, they're all yeah, uh yeah, people who didn't

896
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: want to get called up to the National Guard. But

897
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: I guess legally we're supposed to get called up and

898
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: instead join a militia, which I believe is treason. Um,

899
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: I suspect you could. That's at least like modest treason.

900
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, mild treason, mild treason. So yeah, she starts

901
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: recruiting people and building a base in North Dakota. Uh

902
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: and it builds eventually a small force of nearly forty

903
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: uh Soli, dad knows all of them. She had a

904
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 1: gift for connecting with people. It was the same gift

905
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: that made her the staple of the evening news coverage,

906
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 1: and she was truly interested in all them. It flattered

907
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: most of them. All of them were grateful for a

908
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: place to go. Again, we just hear this. We don't

909
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: meet any of these people obviously. Yeah, yeah, I know,

910
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: we're reading a constant montage. Yeah, she's riding a great epic.

911
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: We don't have time for the nitty or for pleasant trees. Yep.

912
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: So we learned about her literal little posse starting to

913
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: run short on money. Uh, YadA YadA, uh um. Yeah,

914
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty boring stuff. Uh. We're just thinking about

915
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: how Aiden like goes to a bar after buying groceries

916
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: to to sit and like watch the news sometimes. I'm

917
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: so I know that detail. Yeah great, So he learns

918
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: so I know nothing about this person from that. So

919
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: and again Ben uses this detail of of this Aiden's

920
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: the secret serviceman who shot down the helicopter. So he

921
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: goes to a bar after buying groceries to have a

922
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: beer and like watch TV and and catch up on

923
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: the news coverage. Because they're not they don't have any

924
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: internet access or television like where they're all hiding out. Uh.

925
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: And this is mainly an opportunity for Ben to spend

926
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: several more paragraphs talking about the foreign policy impacts of

927
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: the raid on Tehran, and Ibraham is Shami's attack and

928
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. Uh, and his victory speech is

929
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: a terror. So it's all just more like news dumping

930
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: shit um as opposed to I mean, I guess this

931
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: is a little bit of something, right, This is actually

932
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: this is actually an improvement for them. I'll give him that,

933
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: because normally Ben just tells us where a character is,

934
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: spend several pages talking about things that just happened that

935
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: we don't see off screen, and then moves on to

936
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: like the narrative. And in this case, he's attempted to

937
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: weave this info dump, which we get every chapter, one

938
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: of these info dumps. He's attempted to weave it into

939
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: the narrative because at least here Aiden sitting at a

940
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: bar getting angrier and he like shatters the bottle in

941
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: his hand, cutting it because he's so angry at the news.

942
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: This is this at least does build something of a

943
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: character and shows him like it's it's a little bit

944
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: better than just giving a dump of things that happened. Yes, yeah,

945
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: it illustrates a viewpoint and like an emotion. Uh. And

946
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: reaction from a character. It is still a montage though, Yeah,

947
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: it is still a montage. And then Aiden's flipping channels

948
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: after breaking the beer and cutting his hand, and he

949
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: comes across MSNBC covering the streets of Detroit. Um and

950
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: our our friend leave On, You remember leave On, the

951
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: crack dealer, who's friends with whatever. Yeah, things could get

952
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: this could get out of control, the reporter said, a

953
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: hopeful gleam unmistakably shining in his eye. This morning, a

954
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: leader of the uprising, one leave On Williams, posted a

955
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: list of demands on the website of the Fight Against

956
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: Injustice and Racism Movement. That's what they're calling the Fair Movement.

957
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: Here's what we know about Leavin Williams. He's a graduate

958
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: of the University of Michigan with a degree in African

959
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: American studies. No police record, model citizen by all accounts,

960
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: owns a barbership on eight Mile Road. According to public interviews,

961
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: he's done. He came back to the community in an

962
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: effort to bring prosperity home the shooting of Kendrick Malone. So, yeah,

963
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: we just have this other character who hasn't had any

964
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: direct connection to Detroit learning about the things happening with

965
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: one of the other characters in Detroit through the news

966
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: at a bar, because that's how you write a thrilling novel.

967
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: So now we're just we're just playing an interview with

968
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: one of the other characters that a character who has

969
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: not met that character is watching on TV in a

970
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: completely different location. That has nothing to do with great

971
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: incredible writing. Whose chapter is this? This is? This is

972
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: Solo Dad's chapter. Also, yeah, we're we've moved on to

973
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: someone completely different, listening to an extended interview with someone

974
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: else completely different, because this is a well written book. Again,

975
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: pages go by, and we're talking about Levan's theories for

976
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 1: how the police force should be redone and like it's

977
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: just amazing. Um, yeah, Solo Dads sitting on the porch

978
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: of a cabin. We're back to her. Yeah, yeah, she's

979
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: she's sipping tea. Uh. An old grizzled old recruit named

980
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Pope who's black and comes from Los Angeles, Uh,

981
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: comes up to talk to her. I'm sure he's got

982
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: some wisdom here. Um. Yeah, yeah. He was a lieutenant

983
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: colonel uh and he he had been culled into his

984
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: superior's office just after the New York attack, told to

985
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: round up his men and get ready to ship out

986
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: to New York. For some reason, he'd come to Sola

987
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: Dad instead. So he just again there's another dude committing

988
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: some treason to go hang out in North Dakota with

989
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: again like for some reason he did this, talk about it,

990
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: just like have her like show me, yeah, ever explained,

991
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: have him explained, like why he's doing Like she's she's

992
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, having a long dark tea time of the

993
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: soul because she's brought all these people out here and

994
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: everything's getting worse and she doesn't know what to do.

995
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: And this guy says, you know, I followed you for

996
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: this reason or you know, here's what happened to me,

997
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: and like I decided, like wherever you were going to go,

998
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: that's where I was going to go to. And like

999
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: then she knows she has the confidence to do the

1000
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: thing that's necessary next or whatever, like and we the

1001
00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: reader understand and are slightly more engaged with what's going on. Yeah,

1002
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: but instead, like we make it's made very clear by

1003
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: Ben that Solid Dead actually has no controller agency in

1004
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 1: in this situation, uh Aiden said. Aiden said he hadn't

1005
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: given reason for the for deserting, but that he's but

1006
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: he but he said that Ezekiel was trustworthy. Solidade had

1007
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: no option but to trust Aiden's judgment. Ezekiel looked over

1008
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: the snow falling silently into itself. He wore heavy work

1009
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: gloves on his hand and an m force slung over

1010
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: his shoulder, a maroon scarf around his neck. Solidad gestured

1011
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: at the gun. What's that for? We're gearing up, gearing

1012
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: up for what? Well? You tell us? After all, you're

1013
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: the terrorist mama, that's what we're calling you now, you know.

1014
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: Ever since the escape, she felt sick to herself. So

1015
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: they're just like picking up guns for no reason and

1016
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: saying like, Okay, we're all gonna go do something. You

1017
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: have to tell us what like. But it's not up

1018
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: to you to tell us to get armed in the

1019
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: first place. We're just all gonna get armed, and then

1020
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: to tell you it's time to figure out something random

1021
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: to do. I don't know, none of this makes any sense.

1022
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 1: This isn't how people act. Yeah, that's how they acted

1023
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: bread and Bread's Ben's brain. Yeah, I hate Yeah. So

1024
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: this guy tells her that the best defense is a

1025
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: good offense. Uh. And when you're forces small concentrated and

1026
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: hit them, well, they're weak. And she asks who are

1027
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: they and he says, the same people who shut down

1028
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: your farm, the people who attacked you, um, which are

1029
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: back in California and there in North Dakota. UM. And

1030
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: he tells her that they have to move or die now. Um.

1031
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: And it's very unclear as to who he wants her

1032
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: to shoot, or why, or who they could shoot that

1033
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: would improve their situation, or how it would be related

1034
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: to her farm being destroyed in south in southern California.

1035
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: But but that's where this ends. Yeah, is him saying

1036
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: we've got to move or die, and we have to

1037
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: hurt the people who hurt you, who are thousands of

1038
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: miles away. It's it is a great chapter. And you

1039
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: know what, I think it's about time that uh we

1040
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: call this one the beach. Yeah. I think so our

1041
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: next chapters will leave on chapter. I'm sure that's gonna

1042
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: be fun. Yeah, well we'll get back to this. Don't worry, friends,

1043
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: By the time we get to this next Uh, it

1044
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: might just be a full on civil war like the

1045
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: one been perfectly predicted here. And once what a nice

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Speaker 1: escape this has been It is a nice escape. It's

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Speaker 1: a nice escape into a world of people being very wrong. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: on purpose, seemingly. Yeah, Katie Cody, would you like to

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Speaker 1: plug your plug doubles? Oh? You know it more than anything.

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Speaker 1: You can check out our other stuff over at some

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Speaker 1: More News, which Cody hosts night produce. We have a

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Speaker 1: podcast called even More News, and we also co host

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Speaker 1: Worst Year Ever with Robert. We sure do, Cody. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got a Patreon at dot com slash some more News. Um,

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Speaker 1: you can follow me on the social media's dr Mr

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Speaker 1: Cody and Katie Stole at Katie Stole. Yeah, those are

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Speaker 1: the things Robert is I right? Okay? On Twitter? We

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Speaker 1: have social media at Bastard's Pot on Twitter and Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have a d public store and book is draining. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't have energy. I feel like could be everything,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's also it's also Monday. It's sucking

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Speaker 1: Monday on the unnecessarily long month of August. So long

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Speaker 1: all right, podcast over, y'all wear a mask, wash your hands.

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