WEBVTT - Reading The Beginning Of Ben's Absolutely Worst Short Story

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Together Everything so down, Down Down, Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Worst You're Ever Nap. I was very professional going

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<v Speaker 1>for the big swings here on the worst Year Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>We are back, Baby, I don't know how are how

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<v Speaker 1>are you guys doing? How's everybody doing? Okay, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>as well as anyone is these days. I had an

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<v Speaker 1>exciting day. I got up at ten, which is Sophie

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you very very um, and I got right

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<v Speaker 1>to work composing a new version of the song but Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>It's Cold Outside, starring Hitler and Nava Brown. Hitler takes

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<v Speaker 1>the ladies role in that um, which makes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of s because instead of being worried about what his

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<v Speaker 1>family will say, he's worried about what the other members

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<v Speaker 1>of the Nazi High Command, who have turned him into

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<v Speaker 1>a sex sym and need him to be perpetually available

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<v Speaker 1>to the German woman, what they'll say if he goes

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<v Speaker 1>home and it's the one singing but Hitler, It's cold outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so impressed. See all that you can accomplish

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<v Speaker 1>when you wake up just a little bit earlier. Need

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<v Speaker 1>tap into those morning creativity juices. I still haven't recorded

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<v Speaker 1>those ads, Sophie. So yeah, there were priorities. I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I accept that seems fair trade off. Yeah. Just let

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<v Speaker 1>the advertisers know what you were up to, Robert. Just

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<v Speaker 1>let the sponsors know. Hey, I'm trying to see if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone wants to buy my Hitler. It's cold outside, so

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<v Speaker 1>just and the When our adopts team messages me for

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<v Speaker 1>the I don't know if youth time asking for an ad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say listen. Robert was very busy, okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler and they'll be like and Brown right right, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like a fair h uh. Do I want the

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<v Speaker 1>ending spoiled for me? Is it is this song? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it like go Places? Oh? Yeah, I mean well no,

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<v Speaker 1>actually Hitler Hitler leaves in order to plan further the

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<v Speaker 1>invasion of Poland. Um and Ava christ yourself to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Um it's a good song, yeah, like all good songs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's good to be the hit of next

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<v Speaker 1>winter when I when I get it properly produced, um collab.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Cody is always talking about producing music, So

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<v Speaker 1>send it over. Maybe a new theme song for our

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<v Speaker 1>well postal services. That's exactly right, um, I've always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be the postal service of reimagined Christmas songs featuring Hitler. Hitler,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah great, specific right, um waving from such great Reichs.

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<v Speaker 1>Come down boy nine. Stuff happening? Is there news? Oh god, no,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you even ask that? No, we're on our

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Shapiro book Club trajectory. Still we are. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Josh Wedden for a second. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a really narrow thing I want to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that, like within the car, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I think is frustrating is this this need to

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<v Speaker 1>when when it comes out that somebody has done like

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<v Speaker 1>shitty stuff, um, pretend that like you never liked. There's

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<v Speaker 1>like there's this this thing going on when now people

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<v Speaker 1>are being like, oh well he wasn't that big a

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<v Speaker 1>part of Buffy um or oh well he like and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like like there it's this attempt because they're fans

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<v Speaker 1>of the show he made, and also they find his

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<v Speaker 1>behavior unacceptable, which it is they feel this need to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, um, well he wasn't like you know that

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<v Speaker 1>much of this or that, Like it's this idea that

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<v Speaker 1>like if he turned out to be bad, he can't

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<v Speaker 1>have actually been good at making content that I liked. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a misdirected impulse. Interesting, Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>would uh added that I think part of it is

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<v Speaker 1>also that, um, the one could like described like we

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't speak, you know, like the well that happened

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<v Speaker 1>of it all. Yes, And I feel like that it

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<v Speaker 1>was fine for the time when he did it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it caught on and so everyone does it now in

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<v Speaker 1>all the things, and so that is stuff part of yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's part of also the backlash of like he

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<v Speaker 1>created this awful thing that's everywhere now. Yeah, well not

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<v Speaker 1>be like you can watch Firefly and there's we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>speak in it, but it still fits the tone of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Yeah. As opposed to other other works, I

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<v Speaker 1>would I would say, well, that's one of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's this this because we've gotten so like

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<v Speaker 1>exhausted from it. This in this I like tendency to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh it was always like it's a horrible

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<v Speaker 1>trend that he introduced, as opposed to like, well, he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote some stuff that people liked and everybody copied him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like bullet time with the matrix, like it's he

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<v Speaker 1>really like weed and speak is like the verbal equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>of bullet time. And that's why it became exhausting, because

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood is not very creative, and if they see something

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<v Speaker 1>that works, they run that motherfucker into the ground as

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<v Speaker 1>fast as they can. Yeah, there's a reason that caught on,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a reason it got really bad. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was. It's the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 1>if if Josh Weeden had always kind of stayed at

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<v Speaker 1>the level of fame he was when Buffy was on,

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<v Speaker 1>and the same thing of his shows, like he had

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of one in two season shows with little

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<v Speaker 1>cult followings, I don't think anyone would have gotten exhausted

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<v Speaker 1>by the way he wrote dialogue. But it became it

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<v Speaker 1>ate everything, um, and it led to this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>inability within the Hollywood to have any kind of moment,

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<v Speaker 1>like this thing that's constant and Marvel, where like nothing

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<v Speaker 1>gets to have any weight because you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>like a crack every everyone say, yeah, it's very like

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<v Speaker 1>it created this thing that Marvel does specifically, but other

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<v Speaker 1>things do generally where you don't allow uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the emotion of a scene or literally again to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of land which is actually again, I'm not even I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even really a wedding fan. I've never even watched Buffy.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not a thing that I think he actually

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<v Speaker 1>did in most of his I guess you could say

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<v Speaker 1>with like is more like like a Ventures, but like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, within Firefly at least, and even like stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like Dr Horrible, he had the ability to have like

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<v Speaker 1>a scene that was sad, not like he he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do the thing that that people did when they started

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<v Speaker 1>ripping off, like the kind of the way he wrote Dialogue,

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<v Speaker 1>which I find interesting the genre of itself people start

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<v Speaker 1>to emulate, it becomes its own thing, not unlike Wes

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson type stuff. Yeah exactly, um or or what's his name?

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<v Speaker 1>The Nightmare Before Christmas guy, Tim Burton, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that Burton defied. Anyway, I think that like obviously

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<v Speaker 1>his behaviors sucked up in Horrible, But I find it

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<v Speaker 1>interesting the way in which I think when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to like the stuff that people are now criticizing about

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<v Speaker 1>his his work, it's more just like, yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when your ship is popular, it gets it gets

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<v Speaker 1>turned into something insufferable within about four years, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>Disney yes, yes, anyway, you guys wanna do something fun

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<v Speaker 1>before Disney buys our senses of humor. This is quickly

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<v Speaker 1>become a highlight of my week that I look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to talking about Ben Shapiro's Yeah, reading these books and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be sad when it's over. I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>honest too. This is a little o ways is in

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<v Speaker 1>the Sea, and I think maybe what we could do

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<v Speaker 1>when we finished this book is we could go back

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<v Speaker 1>to True Allegiance but find the Spanish translation and we

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<v Speaker 1>could all learn Spanish together in an attempt to read

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<v Speaker 1>True Allegiance like I did with the in It in

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<v Speaker 1>Latin when I was next Cool. That's a good idea

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<v Speaker 1>for an app, anyone, If any developers are listening a

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<v Speaker 1>teacher Spanish foreign language learning, UM, get on it. At

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<v Speaker 1>least three people will download the app. The three of

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<v Speaker 1>us we will not, and then I will travel to

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<v Speaker 1>Chiapas and tell everyone I meet take a bullet for you,

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<v Speaker 1>babe and Espanol. I see no flaws with this plan. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Download promo code uh utopia h which is the title

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<v Speaker 1>of that short story we're about to read. Yeah, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I I will say I will miss this. It is

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<v Speaker 1>really entertaining. I don't think he realized how entertaining his

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<v Speaker 1>writing is. Um in the in the way that it

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously who writes bad things on purpose and then

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<v Speaker 1>releases them. Um but um cult following Ben did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Um where we leave off, we haven't started. H that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you read the first sentence, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>do that again. Um. So this is the final Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the final short story, collection of three short stories.

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<v Speaker 1>It is fifteen pages. Um uh similar you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>same presentation, similar font uh, similar frequency of formatting, issues

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<v Speaker 1>with the indentation on paragraphs. I feel like there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot of similarities, as there have been

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<v Speaker 1>through all of his writing, despite the genre, despite the message.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always kind of the same anyway. UM So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is called Utopia. And as we discovered early late

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<v Speaker 1>last week, the very first sentence is in all caps.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a quote. Somebody is screaming all men are

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<v Speaker 1>created equal. Okay, that's the first. That's bad, even though

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<v Speaker 1>that's also a thing the founding Fathers wrote in Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Shapiro can't stop coming over the Adams right his favorite

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<v Speaker 1>musical seventy six, and that sounds right, Yeah, that sounds right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it does have Mr Feenie, and look, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually have nothing against seventeen. Mr Feenie is um oh

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<v Speaker 1>geez one second, I forget which one of them, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's gonna major role um which despite range the

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental problematic aspects John Adams, he's John Adams. Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the deification of the Founding Fathers is problematic, but

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<v Speaker 1>just as a musical, pretty fun musical. Mr Feenie is

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<v Speaker 1>great in it. Yeah, also still alive. I just googled

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<v Speaker 1>that and found that out. That's right, William Daniels. Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Feenie still young on the Girl Meets World reboots. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>good it is. It is nice to know that that

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Feenie still guiding their lives, helping helping children meet

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Yeah, yeah, okay, we should probably so. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'll check out sent at some point. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>listened to it. If you want to see Mr Feenie

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<v Speaker 1>sing some ship as John Adams, that's basically your only

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<v Speaker 1>option as far as I'm aware. Yeah, we needed a

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<v Speaker 1>John Adams HBO show, needed more more show tunes in it.

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<v Speaker 1>You just had Mr There. We are, all right, never

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<v Speaker 1>going to get through these created equal first line new

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<v Speaker 1>paragraph formatting issue. Um. He had seen those words somewhere before.

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<v Speaker 1>They were hazy in his memory. They were a dream,

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<v Speaker 1>only partially remembered after waking up with bright morning light

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<v Speaker 1>hitting his eyes. Each day he thought he came closer

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<v Speaker 1>to remembering where he had seen them before, but then

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<v Speaker 1>he would shake his head and moving with the teeming

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<v Speaker 1>crowd past the enormous archway emblazoned with those words, past

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<v Speaker 1>the Ministry of Education. He knew what education was. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a parenthetical. He knew what education was, but I

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea what a ministry. This is going to

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<v Speaker 1>make me. Oh, he's trying to Yeah, he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do a nineteen eighty four. But again is bad everything

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<v Speaker 1>the liberals are bad. Bah, well just a also it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just bad. It's not very good, very good writing. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think if you compare, if you, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go listener, grab your copy of nineteen four

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<v Speaker 1>and just kind of read the first page or two

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<v Speaker 1>how Orwell introduces the way in which their thoughts have

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<v Speaker 1>been like limited, it's it's it's you know, it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a fun compare it's better. Yes, yeah, you might call

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<v Speaker 1>it like a masterpiece, as opposed to this, which is

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<v Speaker 1>clunky and and derivative, like the written like someone's bad

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<v Speaker 1>script for a television show that they're trying to sell

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<v Speaker 1>to HPO, which I'm sure Ben did. Did you say HPO?

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<v Speaker 1>Because because I'm also a hack in a fraud. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why. That's how what makes you qualified to you know?

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<v Speaker 1>That's HPO. Is is Home Pox Office, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>company that infects you with smallpox at home, pending on

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<v Speaker 1>what show you watch. Yeah, exactly, it beams, it beams

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<v Speaker 1>it into your blood. Yeah. Shockingly, they've they've they've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>four billion dollars in venture capital funding, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna make it. Yeah, coming soon to a home

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<v Speaker 1>near you, with your at home using the gig economy

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<v Speaker 1>to spread pox. Give me the next sentence. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the second paragraph. Still, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go back like because like almost out of outbreak. Then.

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<v Speaker 1>The lovely thing about his writing is that he makes

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<v Speaker 1>you want to stop in the middle of a sentence

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about what a bad sentence? So many episodes

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<v Speaker 1>out of this exactly, and he he's done it again

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<v Speaker 1>because we stopped in the middle of that sentence. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start the sentence again. Uh, which the

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<v Speaker 1>sentence starts past the enormous archway emblazoned with those words,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a great sentence. That's a that's a clause,

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<v Speaker 1>we call it all right. Past the enormous archway emblazoned

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<v Speaker 1>with those words, Past the Ministry of Education. He knew

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<v Speaker 1>what education was, but had no idea what a ministry was.

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<v Speaker 1>Past the Ministry of Price Control. That's actually I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's not you editorializing. Okay, no, yeah, sorry, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a parenthetic. That was a parenthetical. He knew what education was,

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea what ministry was. This is all separated

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<v Speaker 1>from with semi colon's uh so, continuing past the Ministry

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<v Speaker 1>of Price Control parenthetical, he had no idea what price

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<v Speaker 1>control was, semi colon. Past the Ministry of the Chancellor parenthetical.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone knew who the Chancellor was period. Who is he? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I I hope, I hope we find out, because we

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<v Speaker 1>do not in this next sentence. Uh. Finally, he would

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<v Speaker 1>shuffle to his workstation at the Ministry of Energy, where

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<v Speaker 1>he would spend his day turning on an office pigot

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<v Speaker 1>sounds inefficient. Yeah, I mean I think the purpose of

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<v Speaker 1>the thing the point is making here is that like

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<v Speaker 1>it's some socialist state where everybody has to have a job,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't have as like a poor man's poor

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<v Speaker 1>man's poor man's sucking Brazil. It's just like yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>Ben doesn't really want you to think too much about

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<v Speaker 1>that bit, because if the point he is making is that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>actually there's not enough work that needs to be done

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<v Speaker 1>for all of the people that there are doing jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>then is the answer that people should have leisure time?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what is what it? Maybe there's another option there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just trying to paint some disgusting version, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the things that they want people to believe. That's it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to be because four again very chilling vision of

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<v Speaker 1>a society that's completely controlled. Um Or Well does that

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<v Speaker 1>by talking about the ways in which languages is changed,

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<v Speaker 1>fundamentally limit the ways people can think, the destruction of

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<v Speaker 1>like concepts of the family, all these different these different

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<v Speaker 1>things that make people feel inhuman when you get inside

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<v Speaker 1>their heads. Bins. One of the first things he focuses

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<v Speaker 1>on his price controls that's very funny to me, that like,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of the ways in which authoritarianism fundamentally restricts the

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<v Speaker 1>concept of human thought, He's like, they're gonna put price

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<v Speaker 1>controls in. That is very funny. It's very funny. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so much so quick in this text. It's dense, it's dense.

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<v Speaker 1>It requires a lot of close reading. So that's so

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<v Speaker 1>we're onto the third paragraph, which, in true Shapira style,

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<v Speaker 1>is one sentence long and has a formatting issue with

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<v Speaker 1>the indication, of course, every time the light turned green,

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<v Speaker 1>he turned on this pigot, new paragraph. Every time it

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<v Speaker 1>turned red, he turned it off, new paragraph, And with

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<v Speaker 1>each turn he was happy. Year all right, Okay, getting

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<v Speaker 1>into the mind of sounds better than a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people's jobs, to be honest. Yeah, feeling feeling happy and

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<v Speaker 1>productive with the hard work you put in. Uh. He

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<v Speaker 1>was an older member of the city. City has capitalized,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't remember that. In fact, he had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea how old he was. He just remembered coming into

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<v Speaker 1>his spigot station each day, putting his ID card in

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<v Speaker 1>the machine, removing it, going back to his living space

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<v Speaker 1>with its clean white walls, and it's fully stuck refrigeration system.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's television reruns. Nice, no new content. Sorry, going

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep, waking up again another day older each morning.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew this spigot would need to be turned on

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<v Speaker 1>and off. It was comforting. He had no family. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a woman who came to his living space once

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<v Speaker 1>a week for sexual relations on Tuesdays. She spent it's

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<v Speaker 1>try Sorry, what means there's a medical you, I'm told

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<v Speaker 1>from the author. Also, well, it's moist. One hour is

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<v Speaker 1>longer cumulatively than all of the sex been Shapiro He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, right, And that's if you include cuddling.

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<v Speaker 1>M check out Ben's sex book on the pastors where

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<v Speaker 1>you get your podcasts. Actually, that's a good place to

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<v Speaker 1>point out. We need to break for an ad. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, we gotta go, we gotta find out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh spoiler, Cliffhanger sex coming up. More details on the sex,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably not actually because I think he's not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Oh, Dane together everything, So don't don't. You're back. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're back. We're back in free so hot, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even so hot. What happens next? There was a woman

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<v Speaker 1>came to his living space is what happened? She did?

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<v Speaker 1>She did, Yeah, she did once a week for sexual

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<v Speaker 1>relations on Tuesdays, just waiting for like more parentheticals, like

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't know what Tuesday was. She spent exactly one hour.

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<v Speaker 1>She was not beautiful and she was not ugly. She

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<v Speaker 1>wore the blue uniform of the Ministry of Personal Needs.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not know her name. Today was Tuesday, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was happy. Yeah again, you know, just as a

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<v Speaker 1>little like if you wanted to make this a good

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<v Speaker 1>a good piece of fiction, maybe something to do would

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<v Speaker 1>be like, in the midst of this woman who has

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<v Speaker 1>been you know, made to look and feel as bland

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<v Speaker 1>as possible by this government, he gets some sort of hint,

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<v Speaker 1>catches a whiff of, you know, the scent of her

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<v Speaker 1>hair or something about the way her skin feels that

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<v Speaker 1>like leaves this brief yawning moment of horror at the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, like something terrible is missing from his life,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course it's gone in another second, as

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<v Speaker 1>he returns his thoughts to the you know something that

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<v Speaker 1>makes it a story. Yeah, and like texture, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that helps you get into it kind of well because

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<v Speaker 1>stating this, well he said, I was happy that day

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, that's the most insight we've got we get

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<v Speaker 1>into or his satisfaction at the work. Sure, but like

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<v Speaker 1>you're not actually giving context for this world. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand how this is affecting you anyway. Yeah, and we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the thing, he's going to wind up breaking

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<v Speaker 1>free of this system he has to, and there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be some sort of hackney bullshit. Um, but it

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<v Speaker 1>has so like you you want to give some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of hint that like there's there's elements of humanity, the

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<v Speaker 1>irrepressible nature of the human soul that are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like slowly break through. And he had maybe sex. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>if Ben Shapiro had ever had a positive sexual encounter,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a normal person would be like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be a moment of like intimacy that they

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<v Speaker 1>can't quite quash out every aspect of it. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>some ghost of something that's missing, and that sets up

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<v Speaker 1>that like he's going to break out of this system.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Again, if you were writing a story,

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<v Speaker 1>you might do that, especially a short story where you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that much time. I was gonna say, like

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to move on that stuff? In my head,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like giving him the benefit of the doubt. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that will happen later a little bit, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but like there's no time, there's no time. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do it. No, not with his size, fourteen times new

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<v Speaker 1>roman print, three paragraphs on this page long. Um, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>let's find out what else makes this fucker happy? Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He had no friends. He worked with others and once

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<v Speaker 1>every week, for this is an awkward sentence, he worked

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<v Speaker 1>with others and once every week, four new people would

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<v Speaker 1>come to his living space on Wednesdays. The five would

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<v Speaker 1>play cards together. Then they would never see each other again.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all in good fun, and it allowed him

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<v Speaker 1>to always meet new people. Wednesdays were not as happy

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<v Speaker 1>as Tuesdays, but they were happy. This is so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is this is bad. He's really hammering

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<v Speaker 1>on how happy is And I'm going to tell you, Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it all right. Tonight was a Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 1>On Thursday nights, the members of the various ministries would

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<v Speaker 1>come together for a nighttime stargazing. It happened on the

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<v Speaker 1>well manicured lawn of the Ministry of Culture. When he

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<v Speaker 1>got to the lawn, there were already thousands of people

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<v Speaker 1>milling about. He did not look for anyone he knew,

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<v Speaker 1>He knew nobody, nobody knew anybody. There were no clicks.

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<v Speaker 1>There were just thousands of people happy to see one another,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was happy too. Yes, what a nightmare. So

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<v Speaker 1>bad well comprehensively bleak vision been places of this god

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<v Speaker 1>people are. He's still doing his thing where he um

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<v Speaker 1>just horrendously over uses the same word. Yes, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were a good writer, there's a way you could use

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<v Speaker 1>kind of repetition of words and doing. Yeah, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>because he's bad, it's just how he writes. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>the the intention is there. He's trying to like reuse

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<v Speaker 1>the like the happy phrase, talk about how they're happy.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's doing it every other fucking sentence, so it

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<v Speaker 1>seems laborious to absorb. I don't know if he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>it on purpose. I think as I start, you think

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 1>he is. Okay, I think he's doing this on purpose. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just his habit is to do it anyway within sentences,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that the thing that he does that's like

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<v Speaker 1>a regular thing that happens is I think infecting our

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<v Speaker 1>view of what he's doing now. But the problem with

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing now is that it's like every three

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<v Speaker 1>sentences instead of within the same sentence. So it still

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<v Speaker 1>seems like it's both poorly executed and maybe not on purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it is. It's just he's not very

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<v Speaker 1>good at it. Yeah yeah, like again like okay, like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of pages and then you know, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>very happy, Like you can get the rhythm going without

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<v Speaker 1>it being so obvious what's going on. Um, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>not a subtle There's other ways to play with repetition

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<v Speaker 1>than simply repeating yes, uh he can, he can. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's actually very funny because like you're you're so

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<v Speaker 1>right that like he took the simple like it's this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a shot the baby's first sentence exactly like

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<v Speaker 1>that emotion is such a simple emotion, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>more complex ways to describe it. Um. Truly, I truly

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<v Speaker 1>have written better short stories than these as a child.

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<v Speaker 1>There's any example here of just how limited Ben's imagination is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because again, if we go back to nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 1>by this point in nineteen eighty four, where you're like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of pages in, you've been introduced to an

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<v Speaker 1>entirely new language functionally new speak, and you you you

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<v Speaker 1>all you feel. He doesn't tell you how it's limited,

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 1>uh Winston's ability to feel you you feel it because

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<v Speaker 1>you you you as like within the book he immediately

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 1>like narrows the walls of perception around you by using that.

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Ben wants to do that, but all he can think

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<v Speaker 1>of is just repeating that the person is happy and

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<v Speaker 1>no other emotions because to him, that's the city. That's

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Because he doesn't actually get what Orwell

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 1>was was really doing there um and he's not He's

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>also not capable of imagining anything. But like being in

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>an authoritarian regime is like being drugged and you're just

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<v Speaker 1>like this happy, doped zombie as opposed to what it

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<v Speaker 1>really is, which is these kind and what or Well depicts,

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>which is these kind of walls of fear and like

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>flex that kind of reflexively stop you from thinking and

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<v Speaker 1>acting in certain ways because you you're you're fundamentally a

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 1>machine that exists to survive, and you've been trained by

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the regime that you just don't even even begin to

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>go down certain roads because of the danger. Um. Again,

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Ben doesn't understand things like he doesn't get this. I

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<v Speaker 1>think over and over I come back to he's just

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<v Speaker 1>really lazy that you know, lazy probably with his education,

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>probably lazy with his reading and reading comprehension. Um, but

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 1>definitely lazy. And how he's approached all of this. I

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>get the sense from anything Ben does is that it

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>has taken the bare surface level of thought. Actually, you

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>can argue loud, he can argue and spin things around

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>and be confusing and the fuddle stuff, but he doesn't

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>actually dig deeper than the service. And that is reflected.

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've probably I've already said this, but in

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<v Speaker 1>all of these short stories and in all of his

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<v Speaker 1>articles in Drew Allegiance, all of it. Yeah, it's I

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>think it's most apparent in his fiction writing. Um, but

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>it is everywhere. You're right, Well, I mean it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just seemed in his whole ideology. It's he screams

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<v Speaker 1>as someone who just sits down and writes for twenty

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>minutes and he's like, yeah, I did it, yeah today.

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>It's there's no depth to it. It's like he is

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 1>sort of replacing, like he thinks that like density equal

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 1>stepth Yeah, and that's not true. Um, and so he

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>just yeah, I mean this isn't particularly dense either. I

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>mean it's dense in ways that we can make fun

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>of it. But yeah, but it's like I just mean

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>like the volume, like the volume, even the quantity of it.

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Like there's so many aspects that he's sort of like

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 1>replaced with replaced thinking or about something like carefully, um

0:27:54.160 --> 0:28:01.439
<v Speaker 1>with anything else. Um. But the important thing is he

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>was happy too. The night was not too cold, nor

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>was it too warm. The climate control system made sure

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 1>of that. The people all sat in ordered rows with

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>enough distance between them to ensure personal space. Then hates

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>air conditioning and social personal space. It's personal space. Uh,

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>weirdly hates like that. They're like seats in rows, like

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>how seating is. Yeah, it's it's weird because it's this

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>mix of like things that like any person should hate,

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>like this this big stuff. They have personal space there,

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>star gazing. There aren't clicks like the people all sat

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>in ordered rose. I can't believe they're They lined the

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>seats up so that you can see. Yeah, very funny society,

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny. Um and the stars. Wait, all right,

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that makes me wonder. All of this does make me

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>wonder what been what brings ben joy in life? Is

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>it just owning the libs? Or actually ever like happy

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and satisfied in a moment, a smug little bit. That's

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that's certainly his chief love and life. I think it is. Yeah,

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>it is um and getting those sweet sweet likes you know, uh,

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>instead of getting his I don't know, stories published or

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>put on TV or whatever you know. Ah. But the

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>other important thing is the people all sad and ordered

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>rose with enough distance between them to ensure personal space,

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>and the stars too were in their orbits their distances

0:29:55.320 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the same as always. I I'm gonna okay, will you

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>read that sentence again? Yeah, I'm going to read both

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>sentences again, because he's saying too as in also as

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>in just like I just said in the previous sentence.

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>So the people all sat in ordered rows with enough

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>distance between them to ensure personal space, and the stars

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>too were in their orbits their distances the same as always. Okay,

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>But that that's meaningless because people don't people don't know that, like,

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's one thing to say that, like the temperature,

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.959
<v Speaker 1>which is the thing that changes all around naturally, Like

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>it's been like telling us that the world is climate control.

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>To add something pointing out that the stars are the

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>same as they've ever been, Like number one, how do

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you know you don't even know? Do you know what

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>stars are? Like they tell you what stars are fundamentally,

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Do they let you know about the vastness of the

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>universe outside of the rate You seem to have certain

0:30:55.880 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 1>words and understanding of things. Yeah, consistent with like a

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>society is controlled as he's wanting, So you would have

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to to know enough about the sky, Like maybe there's

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's like a visual thing and like this like

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>they're blocking out the sky with like their version of stars. Ye,

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>stars move always constantly, they're whizzing through space. I mean,

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just taking it as like the stars every night

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like the formations they keep their spacing

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>from each other. But also just on a grammatical level,

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and the stars too were in their orbits. You didn't

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>say people were in their orbits. You said they were

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>in ordered rows, which is very much not like a star.

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>He's using the stars to refer to the distances being

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<v Speaker 1>the same, but like that's not how he wrote. It's

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a great unimportant but whatever, because like you introduced the

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>fact that the world is climate controlled. I have no

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>other questions. I don't need to know how the climate

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>control works. I don't need to know how they power it,

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Like this authority, you live in a bubble. Great, I

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>get that. That's that's perfectly fine. No, no further explanation needed.

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>That's world building. You mentioned this about the stars, and

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>now we have all these questions because again every time

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Ben mention is something that's factual in any way wrong,

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>The stars are the same distance all like, none of

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>this work. Ben Shapiro's writing, Yeah, if if there's if

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>he attempts to make a factual statement, it will be wrong,

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and it will be wrong in so many ways over

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I've thought of it several times lately, like, well, it's

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>wrong in like five different ways are easily discoverable. Well,

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's like it it brings up it does the

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>thing you never want to do in science fiction, which

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>is it brings up questions that take you out of

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the story. Like for me, I'm wondering now, like, well, okay,

0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>if this is really an authoritarian regime, like why do

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>they why are they find with people knowing about like

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the wonder and majesty of outer space. Why is that

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 1>important to them? Because clearly if they're setting up stargazing,

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>then that opens up the possibility that they're going to

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>have some sense of like thought about the universe, thought

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>potentially about like higher other forms of life, or about

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>like a deity, like all these things people think about

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>when they look at the stars, And it could be

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>one thing you could do world building if you talked

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>about how he had been taught to view the stars,

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>or like you guys said, maybe they maybe they've put

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>their own false sheen over that isn't real. Stars are

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>like all this stuff that you could do that would

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>build the world around it. Like if you talk about

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the way they educated him to view stars, and that

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.719
<v Speaker 1>they taught him that stars all move in you know,

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the like the same way that the people do in

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>these perfectly ordered things and as above, so below or whatever.

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that could work if again, you were a writer.

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>But then is instead done nothing and now we're fucking

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about what this goddamn star thing means. Honestly, if

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>any nothing else, this whole exercise has been a great

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>lesson in how not to write. Oh yeah, a lot

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>of people might listen to this and be like, hey,

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can handle writing my own work,

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>because you should. If you think you can write a

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>piece of fiction, your friend, you can it be than

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>have you gone into the world and experienced a thing

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>like joy or or or or even shame. Um, then

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>you two could write a piece of fiction better than

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>ben Japiros just beautiful. Um, they go right, just like,

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>take this premise and write something better, like go off

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>into the world, Like think about a time that you

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 1>felt something and then try to try to bring that

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>to other people feelings, you know, imagine emotions. Yeah, it

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>again like the thing like or Well and I four

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>creates this very like soulless, horrific world, but you never

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>cut off from feelings of the characters. Like that's such

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 1>an intense part. The way he writes this budding romance,

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 1>the way like you get into these people's heads and

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>like how they feel, is why the story has impact.

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not because Orwell lists out here are ways in

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>which this is a bad government. It's because Orwell makes

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>you feel what it's like to live in this horrific

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and human regime. Well, unfortunately, facts don't care about your feelings.

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>And also the facts are wrong, So the facts will

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:36.800
<v Speaker 1>inevitably be incorrect. Um, I tell you, if you're wondering

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>about emotion though, A big surprise coming and it's corny

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and we're excited for it. Do we want it? Do

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>we want it? Now? Yes? So, as we've discussed. And

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the stars too, were in their orbits, their distances the

0:35:54.280 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 1>same as always, like all stars. Uh except one star. Oh,

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it's shot across the sky, a bright flare in the

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 1>velvety purple black darkness, and he felt a disquietude move

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>through him. His stomach rumbled, his mind turned over. The

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:15.760
<v Speaker 1>star blasted through the calm of the evening, leaving sparks

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 1>in its wake, and suddenly his hazy dream burst into consciousness.

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>He found himself standing, tears rolling down his face, gazing

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.359
<v Speaker 1>up at the sky. A terrible longing filled him, a

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>feeling of dread and of hope, a new feeling, an

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>old feeling. The star tore the night upon leaving day

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>trailing behind it. So this is just okay, I need it,

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>we need hold on, hold on wait wait no, no, okay, no,

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just this is so that's all it

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>took for him. Now, Okay, there's a lot going on there,

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:57.439
<v Speaker 1>like for example, again, why are they letting them watch

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 1>the stars? Why is this? Like never been a shooting star?

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>It was that easy for him to be like what

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't let you look at the fucking sky? Okay,

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Cody finished the quote, and and why is it the one? Yeah,

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna, we'll, we'll get into this, um, but a big,

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>a big break is coming. So the star tour of

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the night apart, leaving day trailing behind it. When he

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 1>looked around him, he saw thousands of eyes in thousands

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>of faces staring at him blankly. The star hit the horizon,

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>he turned and ran, and there's a break of texts

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>because time passes. Um. So, yeah, so it's utterly ridiculous

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that this is the first shooting star that has apparently

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>ever existed. And during they do everything, they do it

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>every fucking week. Every week, everybody gets together looks at

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the sky, and it's the only time that has ever

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:55.399
<v Speaker 1>happened to one guy. Um, and like, so there it's

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>this special boy syndrome. Everyone's staring at him blankly. Why

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>is he the one who is moved by this shooting star?

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 1>He's the only one who feels anything, He's the only

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>one who noticed it. Is there something special about him

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that sees this shooting star? Uh old feelings? Right, shouldn't

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>they be staring at should they be incapable of noticing difference?

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>And yeah? Um, But also like again to keep going

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>back to night four, when we get a glimpse of

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>like what that society allows as a recreation, it's very fitting,

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's these like horrific, dank little bars where

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>people drink watered down beer and play the lottery. And

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it again builds you It never you're never taken out

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>wondering like, well, doesn't this provide you know, an opportunity

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 1>for X or Y? And you see that like they've

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 1>got all these different like secret police agents in there

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 1>that are looking for sedition, and it builds. It's just

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>all very believable as opposed to immediately like why would

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 1>you let people look at the stars? Like like it's

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>just like every step of the away you're like did

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you think of Because it's science fiction. If you're doing

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>science fiction or like a dystopian fiction or something like that,

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>that is like a huge part of it is that

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>world building and trying to make it make sense these

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>questions and like there's a way you could have built

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>a shooting star. Had that be key to this, You

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 1>could have it be not that there's like this dumb

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 1>idea of community enforced like stargazing nights, but you have

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 1>this idea that the government wants everyone to believe this

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>is the way human society has always been. There was

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.919
<v Speaker 1>no before, there will be no after. And then one day,

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>on his way home from the late shift, he notices

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a shooting star in the sky and he quite naturally

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 1>believes that it's a star falling out of the guy,

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>which suddenly sets off at him this chain of thoughts

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 1>that like, well, if the stars aren't or beyond the

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>control of the government or whatever, then like maybe like

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and you could again and you can pay what that

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 1>experience was like a huge experiences unraveling this thoughts. You

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>can play with the sensations you're not just yeah, I imagine,

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>And that way it would be a explaining why the

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 1>star was meaningful. What is opposed to like it's pretty

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and so now I'm I'm healed again, so lazy, so incurious,

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>and like a child wrote it. We do have to

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break, right now, who else is a child?

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>The companies to paid money. We are entirely supported by children.

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>That's right, Cody, super cute m random kids. Cody, Katie

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and I show up outside of schools with with with

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>blackjacks and threatened children for their lunch money. That's what

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>keeps us on the air. And that's what these ads

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>will describe. But more entertaining that people like they hire

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 1>people to write the copy for We don't ever get

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>in trouble for this stuff, do we. No. No, We've

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 1>paid off all the cops together and we're back. And

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I think we can all agree that Ben Shapiro has

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>never looked up at the night sky and felt off.

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>We've never felt all all. Yeah, because again, you can't

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>really feel awe if you're convinced that you have everything,

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 1>that every single answer that was ever meaningful you had

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>handed to you when you were a small child. All

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:23.360
<v Speaker 1>is fundamentally like uh an acceptance of the unknown and

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>wonderment at it, and feel like a regular thing that

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>goes Ben's head is unimpressed, Yeah, exactly, like because if

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 1>he's not, if he's if he's ever impressed. Whatever his

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:39.959
<v Speaker 1>dad taught him about the world when he was nine

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.760
<v Speaker 1>was not a complete it was not everything he needed

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>to know about life. Yeah, well, I can't wait to

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>find out what happens to this special man, special man boy. Sure. Ah,

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>so time has passed and he ran. It wasn't until

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 1>he hit the third street that he heard the humming.

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 1>The sound of the Ministry of Protection did not ululate

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 1>or waiver. It was a steady, loud buzz, growing in

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.839
<v Speaker 1>intensity as it grew closer, fading into white noise at

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>a distance. Now the buzz grew more intense as he ran.

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>He could hear them approaching from his right and from

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:29.320
<v Speaker 1>his left. He sprinted forward. Ah, some some Yang endorsement

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>in this short story. Oh yes, all right, this is

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 1>not a big deal, but also another lazy thing. Just

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Education. Just be

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 1>more creative, yeah, I mean yeah, just come up with

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>something again, like orwell. Because he's a master for masterful

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:52.839
<v Speaker 1>writer manages to create, managed to use words in such

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>a way that that enforces kind of the bnality of

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.840
<v Speaker 1>this world. Will also being completely new to use the

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>readers so that you're never board. You know, you speak,

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you feel the way. It limited limits his thoughts, but

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 1>it's also new to you as you're reading the book,

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and thus you're engaged because again orwell was a writer.

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh so you're not left incredibly bored because the lighter

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>did it? I see? Interesting. Yeah, the streets were not

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>numbered or lettered. The people knew their living spaces by

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>proximity from their workspaces, so there was no need for

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:29.360
<v Speaker 1>any distinguishing features. Again, fine, like, there's a way to

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 1>make that entertaining. As he's walking to work the morning

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.800
<v Speaker 1>before things break out, you can describe his walk to work,

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>not the way a normal person would is now I

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>took a left, Now I took a right. But like

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the distance it is from his home because those of

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 1>you like, there's a way in which you But what

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>if he just explains it and once if he just

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 1>explains it rather you know what happens. Of course, that's

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>how you do it. They all looked the same, even

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Beije buildings, covered over with evenly trimmed ivy and evenly

0:43:55.719 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>spaced balconies one per living space. They get balconies. No less,

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>you better than how he wants a lot of people

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 1>to live. Very funny, they have balconies. Okay, yeah, they

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 1>had balconies, and therefore the people who lived inside those

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:18.320
<v Speaker 1>living spaces were happy with their standard issue artificial flowers,

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 1>their standard measured televisions, and they're carefully stocked ice boxes.

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay again, been you have not yet made this sound

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:34.359
<v Speaker 1>markedly worse than life for millions of people under capitalism.

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>At least they all have food. Yeah, yeah, they all

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>have food. They have flowers, Um, they have balconies. Honestly,

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>artificial flowers are all the rage right now. I keep

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>getting targeted ads for them because they don't die. Do

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>not give in? Well I don't, don't do it. Don't

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>do it, Okay, don't don't. Don't succumb to the dystopian left,

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 1>and they're artificial flowers. Um, then go ahead. It's free country. Um.

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 1>It's it's just remarkable to me that Orwell a leftist

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>so committed he got shot in the throat fighting fascists. Um.

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Imagines a better clearly inspired by kind of left wing movements,

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a more realistic authoritarian regime, um than Ben Shapiro, who's

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 1>professionally terrified of the left, who can only make it

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:26.800
<v Speaker 1>seem slightly better than how a lot of people live today.

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 1>They get free stargazing nights every night. They can see

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the stars from where they live. Balconies stars. Everyone in

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, the people in this world can sit on

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>their balconies and watch the stars. Like the idea of

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.240
<v Speaker 1>private space and whatnot. I don't know, it's carefully stocked

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:54.240
<v Speaker 1>ice box again, And if he was, if he actually

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted to make it unsettling in ways that we're consistent

0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 1>with his beliefs, it would make more sense for them

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to have like no senses of pub like space, like

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't shouldn't it be like because sex and physical like

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>none of that matters at all. There's no differences between

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 1>men and women and so like everybody is just one

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>physically entangled like indistinguishable mass, right instead of so atomized

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 1>like random thought the ice box? What does he? Yeah?

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>What's weird? Specific? What a weird um choice again makes

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 1>it like as if it's more orwelly and written of

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 1>a different time, but just that just the word ice

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:39.800
<v Speaker 1>box yeah yeah yeah again and like British or something,

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're free that like just I

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 1>think they probably they probably do, I don't know, but

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Ben's not British, uh, but also like describe him doing

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 1>this at home, like go to your like watch something

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>on your standard measured te It was like, wish the

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 1>show is more interesting, go to your carefully stocked icebox

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and have like your taste is I don't know, like

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 1>just yeah, tell us what's because right now I'm just

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>imagining like, oh, so they've got like Netflix and as

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 1>much food as they need. It's like, right, imagine, I'm

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>sure horrible government, you know TV, and like the food

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:18.840
<v Speaker 1>is all bland and not nutritious, but like we don't

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 1>get any of that. So because like nobody's starving and

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 1>everyone has a balcony and a television, well, right, because

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 1>he's operating from this sort of like this his whole punditry,

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 1>like I'm this right leaning like conservative libertarian, I guess uh,

0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:39.319
<v Speaker 1>And so his audience assumes these things because they know

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the author, like I know Ben wrote this. Therefore I

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.320
<v Speaker 1>bet it's like really bad food and like boring a

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 1>bad health, Like it's all stuff that we have to

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:48.919
<v Speaker 1>assume because we know the writer instead of the writer

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 1>doing a good job. I think there's actually something more

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 1>insidious than that here, because I think the thing that

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be horrifying about this more than anything,

0:47:57.719 --> 0:47:59.879
<v Speaker 1>this is again a good example of like where he's

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a friend than the guy he's trying to emulate with Orwell,

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the thing that was frightening was the limitations on the

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:09.360
<v Speaker 1>human ability to conceive of things, to even think about liberation,

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to even think like independent, Like the the way in

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>which shutters were placed upon the human mind and thus

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the confines of the human soul was the central horror

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen eighty four. And or Well very ably depicts

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that the horror with beIN is that nobody gets to

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:27.320
<v Speaker 1>be rich. Like that's really what's going on here, is

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:29.439
<v Speaker 1>that there's no rich people. He's not horrified, Like he's

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>not presenting the day to day life of these people.

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Is it is particularly a nightmare. The thing that he

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 1>keeps going back to is that nobody has more, nobody

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>has bigger, a bigger apartment, everybody gets a balcony. There's

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 1>not like everybody. Yeah, Like that's the thing he's frightened.

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:49.319
<v Speaker 1>That's that's scary to him, is that like nobody's rich

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 1>in the society. And it's very telling that like the

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 1>difference between nineteen eighty four a masterpiece and what's frightening

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 1>about it and what been clearly thinks is frightening, which

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:03.319
<v Speaker 1>is there's no rich people. Yeah. Absolutely, you got hit

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the nail ned Robert. Yeah, that's interesting, I think again,

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>just incredible writing when you have to stop and just

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:14.760
<v Speaker 1>like question every single sentence. But now they were opening

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 1>their regulation compliance double pain windows to watch him run.

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, double pain emphasized because of like ep energy exactly. Again,

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>we go from like that good. Yeah, that that's the

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 1>thing like Ben has been finds. Ben finds like mandatory

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:45.600
<v Speaker 1>double pain windows for energy efficiency just as horrifying as

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a regime that annihilates the ability of human beings to

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 1>engage in physical intimacy. Um uh, the the the elimination

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:58.400
<v Speaker 1>of history is as frightening to Ben as requiring energy

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 1>efficient windows. It's very funny with an incredible sentence story.

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>But now they were opening their regulation compliant double pain

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:12.479
<v Speaker 1>windows to watch him run. The horror of the double

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:17.320
<v Speaker 1>pain windows unbelievable. Uh. He could feel the cement pound

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:21.359
<v Speaker 1>beneath his rubber souls and that's not correct. He could

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 1>feel his feet, could feel his feet pound against the cement. Yeah,

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:30.320
<v Speaker 1>cement stop pounding. Mm. He could feel the cement pound

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 1>beneath his rubber souls, all right. His breath started to

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 1>give out. It's an awkward sense, so like this is okay.

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 1>He could feel the cement pound beneath his rubber souls

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 1>semi colon. His breath started to give out. He breathed

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>in and out in dash and dash out, which I'm

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's bad. That's he breathed in and

0:50:55.320 --> 0:51:00.120
<v Speaker 1>out burger, trying to find a regularity, anything regular to

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>hold onto, trying not to panic. Too many regulars and

0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:11.840
<v Speaker 1>regularity and regulation was earlier in this paragraph. Come on, uh,

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and you think regular to hold onto? He's just running

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>down the street, all right. He and the and the

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 1>sirens hummed closer. Then he saw them in the reflection

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of the large mirrored glass panes of the Ministry of

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Food Provision. The cube shaped and the cube shaped enforcement

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>pods were rolling down the street after him, gaining rapidly.

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 1>This is unimportant. It's very silly that their enforcement pods.

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I would pose it that it's sillier that they're cube

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>shaped pods. Well, I think I know what he's doing there.

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to remember the name of the show. Um,

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:54.879
<v Speaker 1>it's the Prisoners, right, But were bubbles, which you could

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you could call those pods. I don't think you can

0:51:57.520 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 1>call a Cuba pod. You can call it well, no,

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's right. But I think he's literally

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>just doing He absolutely is just I don't even think

0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 1>he watched The Prisoner. I think someone described it to

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>him and he decided to do what he He absorbed that. Yeah,

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:15.279
<v Speaker 1>it's throughout like cultural losmosis. Right, we're like, oh, I

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>know the image of the guy with a number on

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 1>his chest the bubble comes after him. Um. Yeah, so

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:25.480
<v Speaker 1>they're yeah, they're I mean a lot of things silly

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 1>about this. Um. I shouldn't harp on the cube shaped pod,

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:32.759
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, but it's just it's very funny. Um. And

0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:35.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just like it's such a there's a there's a

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>uc B sketch from the Upper Sketch show they did

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 1>for like three seasons, and there's a sketch where it's

0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:45.239
<v Speaker 1>it's clearly l Ron Hubbard like an analog reading his

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>sci fi book that's like trying to get people to

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:49.760
<v Speaker 1>a cult, and it's like terrible sci fi and every

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 1>word is like he put on his vision goggles to

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:56.759
<v Speaker 1>eat his nutrition food, and I like it's such bad

0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 1>sci fi writing, and I can't think of anything but that.

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Every single time he'd like capitalizes something importment or something. Anyway,

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the enforcement pods are after him. In the lead pod

0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Capital P he could see the slack jawed face of

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a slightly bored enforcer Capital E, who leaned forward and

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 1>pushed a button. Suddenly, the pod jumped, as though spurred

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>with a cattle prod bucked and leapt toward him. The

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 1>distance shrink one block. His feet were giving way now

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:36.360
<v Speaker 1>half a block. M hm ah. The pod loudspeaker opened

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 1>up with that pulsating rhythm. He'd heard the rhythm once before.

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say rhythm again. He'd heard the rhythm once before.

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:49.720
<v Speaker 1>You'd only seen God. He'd heard the rhythm once before.

0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 1>He'd only seen one enforcement action before. It had been

0:53:54.600 --> 0:54:00.480
<v Speaker 1>a young girl ready for it. Okay, sorry keep going, Yeah, no,

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm and I'm sorry for letting his writing trip me

0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 1>up and trying to read this out loud. He had

0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:12.239
<v Speaker 1>heard the rhythm once before, He'd only seen one enforcement

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 1>action before. It had been a young girl ready for

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 1>recruitment to the Ministry of Personal Needs. She had his

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 1>word repetition and now has stopped being purposeful and oh, yeah,

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 1>this is just this is just not very I feel

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I need to point that out here.

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:33.920
<v Speaker 1>It's also funny to me that like the thing that

0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure one thing I'm sure that Ben finds horrifying

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>about nineteen eighty four, or at least the television version

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:40.839
<v Speaker 1>of nine that I'm sure is what he's watched rather

0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 1>than reading the book, is that there's like there's no

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 1>distinction between between men and women and their society right

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 1>as a desire to to to kind of exercise from

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.359
<v Speaker 1>humanity the capacity to form families and fall in love

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:56.440
<v Speaker 1>because it's a threat to the state. Um been still

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<v Speaker 1>has a very clear separation. Men do some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>job in women are just there for sex. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's yeah, just very revealing. That's consistent. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>consistently good. And it says nothing about Ben. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap it up? Or yeah, So, like I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, I'm actually like frustrated reading this now, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to take a week break and

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<v Speaker 1>compare to you too. I feel like that's the general

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<v Speaker 1>we do talk about. Oh, I mean a week break

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<v Speaker 1>in like real time in that meaning in a week

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<v Speaker 1>we'll come back to Okay, we'll still come back then. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to find out what happens. I just like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't read today, you know what. We've got to

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<v Speaker 1>digest what we've learned, and will finish now our trauma

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<v Speaker 1>and my request for all of you in this next week,

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<v Speaker 1>because we only have maybe one more week of going

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<v Speaker 1>over Ben's storybook. Maybe fight where he lives, break into

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<v Speaker 1>his home, steal his hard drive. There's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>a file on there that we need. More men, short

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<v Speaker 1>stories or scripts, you know, um, bring it, bring him

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<v Speaker 1>to us. There's other people we could read. There's other

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:12.760
<v Speaker 1>people's work we could celebrate anyway, not as good as

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<v Speaker 1>there's something special and tasty about this. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>special boy. He sure is. Alright, guys, check us out online. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>where's your pod? We'll be back next week, keeping the

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:30.840
<v Speaker 1>classy worst your enforcement pod. Ye cube shaped because he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to do fears because that's from the prisoner

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<v Speaker 1>and he couldn't do it the same way. Yea extremely

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<v Speaker 1>And there's no way he's watched the Prisoner. He can't

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<v Speaker 1>have like I can't imagine sitting down and watch is

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<v Speaker 1>this cute floating or is this cube on wheels? If so,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be floating. That's very funny. Floating cubes

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<v Speaker 1>is such a funny in the world. So here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll okay, we're the episodes not over yet, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So uh in the sentence that introduces these enforcement pods. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to the other things we talked about, the

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<v Speaker 1>cube shaped enforcement pods were rolling down the street after

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<v Speaker 1>him gaining rapidly. They were rolling down the street. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they can't they can't roll unless they're on wheels.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm pretty sure the cube pods have wheels, just

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, there's cyber trucks that we cleared this up

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously a sphere can roll down in different ways

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<v Speaker 1>or float or however you want to get it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but a cube can't. It needs wheels to roll. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was thinking. Okay, I'm so glad we cleared that.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they're roller blades. Alright, Alright, the episodes actually

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<v Speaker 1>over now now we're done by Oh dome n It's

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<v Speaker 1>not against I tried. Daniel. Worst Year Ever is a

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