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Speaker 1: get out of here, Like you've never seen a character

426
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: like this before. She's stocked. Hey, I'm the tough talking

427
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: best friend. Alright, come on, I'm I'm I'm straight. I'm

428
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: with these faggots Like I can say that, get because

429
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm who I am. Bitches, watch Cheers and that's Carla.

430
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: That's sucking. That's Carla. It's a Perlman mixed with grace

431
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: and like, oh god, I feel so shitty, like shifting

432
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: up show that like is not even on the air anyone,

433
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: Just like I haven't even seen the movie yet. Um,

434
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: but like the fact that they did not have a

435
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: single Asian gay character on that San Francisco is outrageous

436
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: because that's where we are there. They had they had

437
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: Andrew last character on the show. It was a gay

438
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 1: Asian comedian who is a brilliant gay Asian comedian, and

439
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: they had him play the straight best friend, which is

440
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: so annoying. He was in like three episodes, and I

441
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: thought that he'd be on the show more. It was

442
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: I was crazy to me. It was so bizarre. You're right,

443
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: because go to San Francisco and try and throw a

444
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: fucking rock without hitting an Asian person, like it's it's

445
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: you just can't do it, and like it's so weird.

446
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Like you, I don't want diversity

447
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: for diversity's sake, but if you want to talk about

448
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: putting a place, putting a show in a in a

449
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: real setting and having to be grounded, then you can't

450
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: pick San Francisco. If you want your cats to be

451
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: lily white, then put it in Ohio. Don't put it

452
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Put it in Columbus. Let's put looking

453
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: in Collisi. So I remember I remember when Looking got canceled,

454
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: there was like a bunch of gays that were like

455
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Facebook being like, um, not for nothing.

456
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 1: But I don't know why we're cheering this. We just

457
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: lost a show that was about gay men. It was

458
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: for us, and like it failed and now they're not

459
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: going to make shows like it anymore. And it was like, no,

460
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: because I don't want a gay show on the air

461
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: just because it's gay, and it's just because and also

462
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: we're allowed to criticize it and critique it and want

463
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: it to be good. Here is my thing. Like with

464
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: people who liked Looking, and like, I kind of see

465
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: where they're coming from with that, because I'm sort of

466
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: going through the same thing with Finding Prince Charming, which

467
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: I'll get into. But I wish I wish we lived

468
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: in a landscape we're looking was It's it's unfair to Looking.

469
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 1: It's actually really unfair to Looking that we are all

470
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: projecting our own ones and needs on this show because

471
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: it is the it is the only show. I wish

472
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: we lived in a world where they're we're looking tod

473
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: it just exists and we could all ignore it and

474
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: would be fine because there's so many other options for us,

475
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: like because like a lot of people who like looking

476
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: who hated the criticism would be like, well, don't watch it.

477
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: And it's like, actually, though, like if I want to

478
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: see a gay person on screen, this is the only

479
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: option for me right now, So I can't not watch it.

480
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: I wish I could find another option also to like

481
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: probably the closest thing that we have to like someone

482
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: that's going to fill that kind of romantic comedy lead

483
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: would be Jonathan no And I I really wanted that

484
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: show to succeed because I love him. I've spoken about

485
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: this on the show before. I but then I think

486
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: he's so fucking talented and that show had all this

487
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: had all like had all the right stars in line,

488
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: like just everything aligned nicely. But Leam Michelle never came out.

489
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: And I will never forgive it just what it was

490
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: flat for me. It wasn't. I don't think it was

491
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: aggressively bad. I just think it was flat. And I

492
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: think because it was the only one, like it's fun

493
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: to like to pile on um, but I and I

494
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: do think that like there is a problem when like

495
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: we are so loud in our criticism sometimes when it

496
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: does like it gets a little like we we gotta

497
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: like gay people exist in television, like in ways even

498
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: sometimes we don't, like I don't think that we should

499
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: not criticially, not criticize, but sometimes it's like this show

500
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't be on, like with Finding Prince Charming. I gotta

501
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: tell you guys, it's I'm not a good show. It's

502
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: a fun show. You gotta watch. It is the silliest

503
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: It is the silliest stuff, and it's so transparent and

504
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: like they think they're pulling one over on you, but

505
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: it's so transparent. It's like trash, but it's like trash

506
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: in the same way The Bachelor is trash. It's no

507
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: different or worse. And like it is like there's this

508
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: like sort of narrative going on on gay Twitter where

509
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: like all these gay men are like I'm home phobic

510
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: now after watching the show, like like look at and

511
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: it's like, well, let's just stop congratulating ourselves for being

512
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: above watching this show, like we get it, like you're

513
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: better than the people on this show, um, and like

514
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: but it's just like just enjoy like just for that.

515
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: That's what it is. That kind of thing. It's like

516
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: you can take it or leave it. It's not HBO,

517
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: it's fucking logo, it's not aflding anybody. So I don't

518
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: think it's damaging the community totally. I do have a

519
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: lot of problems with I have a question about it

520
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: just in terms of like how the game gets played

521
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: on finding pressing and again I have not watched even

522
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: the second of it. What's why? What is it about

523
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: the bachelor that makes them all interested in him and

524
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: not each other? So that's that's what it plays with it,

525
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: that is all. And here's no, it doesn't actually I

526
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: mean in the first episode, like it was mingling with

527
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: all the others. That was a really fun part. They

528
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: didn't reveal who the bachelor was, like at a certain

529
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: pointing episodes and he's like actually I am the bachelor, um,

530
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: and I'll put their hands on the person. That was fun.

531
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: But now like they are really trying to like push

532
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: this narrative like they're all so into Robber and not

533
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: into each other, and like there's like weird. I mean,

534
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: they're just like there's such characters and like it is

535
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: this is my thing with fighting Prince Charming. That is

536
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: so interesting though, is that like there's no there's very

537
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: little self awareness of what the gay community is like,

538
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. Let's be real, Um, none of

539
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: those black guys are gonna make it to the end. Uh.

540
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: But meanwhile, like the black guys and um, I mean Dali,

541
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: but like I was watching the clips where they enter

542
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: each other they introduced themselves and like they were the

543
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: only ones who seemed sane. We totally and one of

544
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: them is like the hottest guy in the house. And

545
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: then also they have like varying body types on the show,

546
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: which is like I get what they're doing in theory,

547
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: but it's so kind of sending to it to like

548
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: not to just be like, yeah, these guys have just

549
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: as much of a chance with this beautiful like model

550
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: like chiseled, hard rock body guy as these other guys.

551
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 1: Like in the second episode, this like little twink, they

552
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: like play a volleyball game to like compete to see

553
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: who goes on a one on one date with him. Um,

554
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: and this like beautiful like Twinkye boy goes on this

555
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: perfume date with him and it's like no more obnoxious

556
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: than anything that's ever happened on The Bachelor. Chel And

557
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: then he gets to choose who goes on the next

558
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: perfume date. What's that like choose a scent together, and

559
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: then he gets to go back to the house and

560
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: choose who gets to go on the next one on

561
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: one date with him, and of course he picks the

562
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: last bear guy that's standing. He's like, I just know that,

563
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: like you haven't had a chance to come out of

564
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: your shell yet with Robert, and I really I think

565
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: you deserve the date. And it's like, bitch, you're picking

566
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: the like the least likely competition in this house. And

567
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: sure enough that guy goes home. Uh in that episode

568
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: because the Bachelor spends all the entire date talking about

569
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: another guy with this this like bear dude, and it's

570
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: like and it's like never address and like I wish

571
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: if they if they have like a like another layer

572
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: of like self awareness about like yeah, aren't gay men

573
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: like like so like into like into image and image

574
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: in physique in the same like in the same way

575
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: like the Bachelor is like it's just like trying to

576
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: like shoehorn in like like no, that dude is gonna

577
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: go for like a hot porn looking like white dude,

578
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: because that's what happens in the real world. And like

579
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: if we could just accept that, I would enjoy the

580
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: show so much more even though I hate it. It's

581
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: like such a weird conflicting emotion while watching the show.

582
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: See I'm like, tell me, what's going on? I just

583
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: don't know, Like how many family they went through before

584
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: they landed. Probably Neil Patrick Harris wouldn't do Oh of

585
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: course he was like no, thank you. Ricky Martin was

586
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: like no, Matthew Bombers like thank you? Who is or

587
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: they first? Maybe they did, you know what? Knowing they

588
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: probably did. He's bad. I mean, he's bad. He he

589
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: brings nothing to the show. I think he's actually charisma lesque.

590
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: I think I think there's not And did you know

591
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: that this is a true fact. Back in the day

592
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: when instinct was at their height, they made like barbies

593
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: out of instinct, like they were like dolls, and he

594
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: was the most popular doll. But meanwhile, Lance Bass was

595
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: the least. I mean, I mean, yeah, it's a low base.

596
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: I mean friend of the show, Guy Brandham like said

597
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: it best like Lance or no, it wasn't even guy

598
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: random said I can't believe I'm attributing this guy. But no,

599
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: but like somebody said, like thank god, Lance came out

600
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: as gay because like if he didn't, like, no one

601
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: would actually it might have been guy, Oh my god,

602
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: take this all out. But just say somebody said, can

603
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: I remember? Can I say? I? I was in Universal

604
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: Studios one time and I saw Joey Fatone with his

605
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: wife and his daughter was on his shoulders and they

606
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: were walking through this crowd and no one knew it

607
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: was him but me, And I'm like, this is surreal,

608
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: Like we're standing next to one of the biggest pop

609
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: stars of the last two decades, and this is a

610
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: person that like millions and millions and millions of girls

611
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: like screamed for end gays and boys, um like, and

612
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: he was just like totally existing. And I'm sure just

613
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: like and I'm sure rather that. I'm sure he'd rather that.

614
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: But I mean, well, I mean you know who, really

615
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: I feel like probably is the most b I A T. T. E.

616
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: R Is because he was genuinely talented and then like

617
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: I think, so incredibly hot, and his career just didn't go.

618
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: He was the Kelly. He was the Kelly to Justin's Fionce. Yeah,

619
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: I guess so. But Kelly Rowland, you could argue as

620
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: quite hosts something though. He was on America's Next Best

621
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: Dance Crew that and he he was on there with

622
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: Little Mama, Little Mama, who said things like you always

623
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: you're You're amazing. You always ceased to amaze me. You

624
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: are the train, you are the train on the tracks,

625
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: and you are what I love about you was your beautiful.

626
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: You didn't know that and you dance beautiful. Thank you

627
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: so much? How okay, wow, Little Mama, Little Mama. I

628
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: used to get my life to lip glosses popping. Yeah.

629
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: I used to sit next to this girl. I had

630
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: computer information processing class where they taught us the type

631
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: fast and they sat me on the other side of

632
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: the room, away from all my friends, and I made

633
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: friends with this like his spanner girl who was like

634
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: three years older than Mary. Her name was Jasmine, and

635
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: she was like she introduced me to to to artists

636
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: Little Mama and Joe Joe. She said, this girl was

637
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: thirteen years old. Changed your life, she should change my life.

638
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: I often wonder where that girl is. Jojo just had

639
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: another single come out recently, Not Joe Joe, Jasmine, the

640
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: other diabok. Her name was Jasmine Rodriguez. I'm not only

641
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: to look up Jasmine Rodriguez probably find quite you got

642
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: to bleep out her name. You can't be done, you know,

643
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: I want to know where are you, Jasmine, Joe? Where

644
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: are you? Christmas? Jojo made me real self conscious when

645
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: she blew up, because I was like, this is a

646
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: girl who's my age, who's so famous? Yeah, why am

647
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: I not famous? You want to be a doctor. At

648
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: that point, well, at that point I was like, oh,

649
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: I just saw the high school production of Hello Dolly,

650
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: I want to be a musical theater. Musical theater star.

651
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: Sudie Green famously has revealed that when she first saw

652
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, she said, oh my god, it's the new

653
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: Joe Joe. This is years ago. It's the new It's

654
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: every way. How many times do you think Faith Hill

655
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: took Taylor Swift aside, was like, don't crossover, girl, it's

656
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: not going to go well. And Taylor was like, thanks, Faith,

657
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: you know she's one that fell right off Shill. There

658
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: was Faith Hill, and then there was Carrie Underwood, and

659
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: then there was Taylor Swift, and there's always been Martina

660
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: McBride and of Cockroach of Country and Shania Famously, who

661
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: was in the first Diva's concert in hindsight looks just

662
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: like so outrageous, like what are you doing there? Let

663
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: me tell you, sometimes, Sudy and I will just get

664
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: totally stoned and watch the Diva's Life where in the

665
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: entire crowd is stopping with sweat, fanning themselves with their programs.

666
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: Because I read the Franklin famously said the a c

667
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: will not go on. She's she said, this is a

668
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: night about me, the Queen of soul, and there will

669
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: be no air conditioning. I don't care what anyone says.

670
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: It's bad for your voice, that form and what sorts

671
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: of parts did you get in high school? Oh, here

672
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: we go, speaking of fucking type cansting. Uh, as you

673
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: were talking about earlier, I got like the like the

674
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: comedic roles, which is fun, but then my scene. Okay,

675
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: so here's a whole saga for you guys. There was

676
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: the dance teacher who would come in every year to

677
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: direct the huge musical show each year. Meanwhile the drama

678
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: teacher direct like the regular plays. Uh. And she was

679
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: just no nonsense, very strict like. And I admired that.

680
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: At first. I was like, great, I love I love her.

681
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: I'll just say her name, Miss would. I love miss

682
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: which she is so like she's there, she's there to work,

683
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: she wants to like make us better performers. I love her.

684
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: So freshman year we do Once upon a mattress and

685
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: my first audition, like in any kind of setting, and

686
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: like they give you the sheet, like with the form

687
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: that says, um here the here are the roles, um

688
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: check anything that check any roles that you will not accept,

689
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: and then meanwhile, next to each role, there was also

690
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: like a line for understudy, like a box for understudy.

691
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: So I was just like, oh, well, I guess it'd

692
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: be bad to be an understudy. I guess I want

693
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: to show that, like I want to really be involved.

694
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: So I checked not understudy all the way down the form,

695
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: and then miss Wood had to put like after my audition,

696
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: she she pulled me aside. She was like, Hi, there

697
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: was a really good bowen. Um okay, so you're a freshman,

698
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: I go, yep, go oh, just just so you know, um,

699
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, normally normally you you would you would and

700
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: this is your first show, you would sort of have

701
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: to like open yourself up to like a chorus part

702
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: or whatever, and this and this and this, and I

703
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: just felt so embarrassed. And then she really just and

704
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: I apologized profuse. I was like, oh my god, I'm

705
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: so sorry. I'm so sorry. I don't mean to seem

706
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: like I'm I only want the lead roles. And so

707
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: she sort of carried with her this this this image

708
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: of me where I was just this huge diva. And

709
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: then like and then meanwhile I would diligently, I was

710
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: doing little. She was dead, she didn't know she had

711
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: clocked you earlier. It keeps going because here here's what happens.

712
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I followed your year after year. It follow

713
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: the year after year. So fresh freshman year was once

714
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: upon a mattress was a chorus member, just put in

715
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: the work, did a great job in the work. I

716
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: put in the work space for himself, had seed honey.

717
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: And then sophomore was Crazy for You, which is juke Box,

718
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: the musical of Gershman songs. You play you know, Oh great,

719
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: I'm biding my time. What a hot name. It's a

720
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 1: good play. It's a musical. It's pretty solid. Um and

721
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: and so I think I got like some small speaking part.

722
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: It was fun. And Junior was when things really there

723
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: was a huge fallout. Um, we were doing Barnum, which

724
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: just what a bullshit musical, and then Barnum and then

725
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: like I was just really busy with my academic baccalaureate

726
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: program called the International Bacalori Program, which into your junior

727
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 1: year had a lot of had like a thousand page

728
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 1: paper to write every week, and for a high school

729
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: that's like traumatic, and so UM was really spread thin.

730
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: And then ms Wood thought that I wasn't committing enough

731
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: time to the musical, so she asked me to leave

732
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: the show, which I'm still I still think it's like

733
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: actually traumatic today I think about that. And then it

734
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: was a really bad falling out, Like she had this

735
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: really long conversation. She sat me down in her office

736
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: and was like this, I don't Oh my god, what

737
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: a horrible bit, Like like she was like so full

738
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: of power AND's like if you don't come, if you're

739
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: not committed to the fucking high school play and now

740
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: your academics, you gotta get out. What the hell? So

741
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: those huge falling out And meanwhile, my choir teacher, Mr.

742
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: Grant was always like a champion for me. Love that

743
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: love the guy still um. And then I was like

744
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: you you know what, I think. I think the story

745
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: will end well for both of you. And so senior year,

746
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: he really pushed for me to like make amends, which

747
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: the onus wasn't necessarily on me a fucking seventeen year old.

748
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: Oh go up to an adult and be like hi,

749
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: um I guess I was. I was out of line

750
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: this way, and like it's totally inappropriate. So anyway, like

751
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: we made up and like we had a long conversation

752
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: senior year and then senior year was any goes and

753
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: guess what the bitch casts me as my God. That's vindictive,

754
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: the Chinese yellow face stowaway. That is so vindictive. And

755
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: was there another Asian person? There was another Asian person

756
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: who played with me, this really sweet girl um I

757
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: forgot her name, but she was great and she was

758
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: just like she did not have any interest in musical theater.

759
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: She was just in the choir. She was in the

760
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: top choir. She was otherwise like a really good student.

761
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: And I be with me and she was just like, yeah,

762
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: I'll do it. And it was really chilled the whole time,

763
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: and like didn't think anything of like this horrific type cast.

764
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: It was. It was my principle and never got it

765
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: and miss would and like I read The Artist's Way

766
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: and like in that book, the author tells you to

767
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: really think about the people who who have traumatized you creatively,

768
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, first one, first person I thought

769
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: of this would so yeah, that's oh I've never really

770
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: shared that with anybody. That's my high school. Uh, there

771
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: was nary one Asian person in my school, and that

772
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: did not stop them. I'm doing and I mean the

773
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: King and I And let me tell you all my

774
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: girlfriends that did the play, we're all in the Uncle

775
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: Tom's Cabin sequence, which was in the show just like

776
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: doubly layers upon layers, let me tell you. And how

777
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: much eyeline it was used in this production too much

778
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: like like yellow face doing black face. It was insane

779
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: And that's what my eyes are huge, because I'm just

780
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: tired of I yeah, yeah, you do that, that that guy,

781
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah. We also did the Whiz Oh my god.

782
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: Literally high school and the superintendent at the time was like,

783
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, we just we can't do anything inappropriate. We're

784
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: not We're not doing Greece. He wouldn't allow, he wouldn't

785
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: allow anything with any sort of sexual references, but he

786
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: would allow us to Oh, that's rich stomp all over.

787
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: Any idea was a little bit more defensible than the

788
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: King and I. I guess. I guess it's not as

789
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: it's not as explicit like it is of that culture,

790
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: but it is not explicit. But there's an imperial this

791
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: because it was the hip hop Wizard of Oz. I mean,

792
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: that was obviously right. It's like, I don't think I'm

793
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: not defending the choice, but I think like doing The

794
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: King and I with an all white cats, he's like

795
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: pretty explicitly racist, right, Doing the Whiz with an all

796
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: white cast is pretty implicit. I think, in all fairness,

797
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: the the guy that played the King was like so

798
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: like like some sort of like light because you started

799
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: this that with. In all fairness, all right, I'm just

800
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: gonna put the brakes on this because he wasn't white.

801
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: He wasn't white, the kid that and he, I don't know,

802
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: I didn't dig into his racial background because, like like

803
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: the rest of my town, we just didn't think about it.

804
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: I remember thinking in the back of my mind, like,

805
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: is it weird that we're doing this, Like, I don't know,

806
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: I guess it's better than us doing something with like

807
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: pussy Wagon in the song you know what I mean.

808
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: Like And then the year after I graduated, they did

809
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: do Greece because we got a new superintendent. But that's

810
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: Long Island funny that the superintendent would have. Yeah, the

811
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: superintendent was like, just so you know, you are not

812
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 1: not not doing anything racy as the musical. That's interesting, Joel.

813
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: What were your high school? So sophomore year I went

814
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: to this church school that was like basically being homeschools

815
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: because yes, you were homeschool but we did a musical.

816
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: We did music Man first ever, first ever musical. Tommy

817
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: jellis the second male lead. I mean like I guess no,

818
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: the young lead, like he's in love with the mayor's daughter.

819
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: He's the Romeo. Oh. And also that year we did

820
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: much Ado about Nothing and I played like the old man.

821
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: That's fine the d M. Then in public school junior year,

822
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: I was uh the dad and bye bye Birdie, which

823
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: is where no fucking Sullivan kids And I will never

824
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: forget like that was a formative moment for me. Doing

825
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: kids is because I got a fucking standing ovation at

826
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: the end of Kids, and I will I mean that

827
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: was when I was like, oh my god, I have

828
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: to do this for the rest of your I was like,

829
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm a star. And it was really

830
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: the first moment to where I was like, I'm not

831
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: a great singer, but I might be. I might be

832
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: no singer, but exactly, and like I acted this shift

833
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: out of that song, you know, and that was great.

834
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: And then senior year, I was also doing this uh

835
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: program outside of school called only a Stage And it

836
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: was once like in the Chicago suburbs, like well known

837
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: as one of the best like theater training programs. Okay,

838
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: but then my senior year it really fell into like

839
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: just like no one stopped going. Margot was like a

840
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: very difficult woman who alright, she's she's passed away, but

841
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: she was amazing. She was amazing, but she was like

842
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: a theater person who like ran a business, which is

843
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: usually not like the easiest thing. Um So, my senior year, like, uh,

844
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: they were doing little Shop of Horrors and maybe five

845
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: guys auditions, but I got to be seen more. But yeah,

846
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: and it was honestly the best, the best thing. I

847
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: didn't do any of the place. I was too scared.

848
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: I was too scared everyone would think or find out

849
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: that I was gay. I didn't do any of the musicals. Wait,

850
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: really no, I didn't act at all until I was

851
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: in college, and I could have had a real high

852
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: school musical moment, but I really, I really, I would

853
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: sit there and I would be jumping out of my

854
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: skin because I want to do it so bad. And

855
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: I remember they were all did by by Roodie and

856
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: they were like, why don't you Underson for Conrad, Like

857
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: you would be so good, you would have been a

858
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: great Conrad. And I was just like, no, I don't

859
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: singing a choir. Didn't sing at all. Really, it's all

860
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: it's all like raw natural talent for me, which is

861
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: much I would have loved to have done that. It's

862
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: just like I said, it's and I'm not saying it's

863
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: harder here than it is everyone else, like, but it's

864
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: really hard on the island to step out of a box.

865
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's a small town on the island.

866
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: There was two seventy kids in my graduating class, and

867
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: like everyone knew each other enough to generalize, you know

868
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: what I mean. My god, So here's a pro tip

869
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: from me to everyone listening is look up the Jimmy

870
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: Awards UMM music school, like and they take it very seriously.

871
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: It's in the Northeast and like they get stars to

872
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: come out, and said Zachary Levi hosted the two thousand

873
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: sixteen Jimmy Awards, and it is it is my like

874
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: go to gay YouTube party, Like all right, I'm gonna

875
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: do that tonight. It's pretty good. Oh yeah. The girls,

876
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: especially girls are outstanding. And it's so just to describe it.

877
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: So there's like they're all nominated for performance, and they

878
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: put them in these groups and there's like three groups

879
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: of girls, three groups of boys, and they put them

880
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: in a lineup and they're like they introduced them all

881
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: and they're like Genevieve so and so from this high

882
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: school as Bell and Beauty and the Beast. And then

883
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: and never inevitably, every high school does the same fucking musical.

884
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: So there's like three bells in the same group and

885
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: they all sing the same like different cuts of the

886
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: same song, and it's like all choreographed, and like every

887
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: girl who's nominated like is connected. It's so bizarre and wonderful.

888
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: And every guy, like the guys are a real mixed bag,

889
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: and there's like always like two guys that you're like,

890
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: oh you are you broke your knee playing football and

891
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: you're like, I'll just do the musical as a lark.

892
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: And now you've been nominated for Jimmy Award. That's not

893
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: that's that's not good for kids at age ego though,

894
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, to be nominated for a Jimmy. I

895
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: think Jasmine Sullivan was did something like that. Never Jasmine

896
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: Sullivan singer from The Whiz. Oh, I don't even know

897
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: she's sang the famously like saying it. Am I talking

898
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: about Jasmine Sullivan? Am I talking about someone else famous

899
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: R and B singer? I think it is Jasmine Sullivan.

900
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: She did like, what's that song? As long as he

901
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 1: needs me? Where is that from? I have no idea,

902
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: but that was beautiful. It was really good. I didn't

903
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: sing the point don't peak early? Um, that's what Who

904
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: said that? Who said that, don't be successful early? Oh

905
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: fucking Sarah Paulson just said that after her. I mean, wait,

906
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: so while we're just saying in this world of the past, Joel,

907
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: we have to ask you, um, what's the culture that

908
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: shaped Joel Kim Booster young Jolie. When did you side

909
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: that decide that culture was for you. Wow, that is

910
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: a tough question. I'm going to say. Um, I really

911
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: got keyed into culture at a young age. Watched a

912
00:47:54,040 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: lot of television early on faith shows included Power Rangers. Yeah, yes, Batman,

913
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: the animated adventure, Living in the Living in the Animated

914
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: and the violence. Yeah, Living in the Animated and the violence.

915
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: That's that's I think. Honestly, Comic books were like the

916
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: earliest thing that like shaped my like cultural comic You've

917
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: got a depth of knowledge with with with comics, I

918
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: owned thousands. Do you really I didn't know that. I don't.

919
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: I'm not as much. I don't buy I'm not as

920
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: like up to date as I once. But you can

921
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: toss off like trivia. Oh yeah, um okay. Can we

922
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: talk about Spider Man in the animated series when we

923
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: were growing up? I thought it was it was great

924
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: and it was like a soap opera. It was a

925
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: soap opera. And then the way Peter Parker was animated,

926
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: he was so hot. Yeah, I mean, aren't they always hot?

927
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: But like the cartoon that sounds so crazy hand type bullshit,

928
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: but cartoon Peter, cartoon Peter Parker was the second when

929
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: I would masturbate growing up, I thought that if I

930
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: was masturbating two cartoons, it wasn't wrong. So I did

931
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: a lot of I did a lot of really good Batman.

932
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: I did a lot of Spider Man. I did a

933
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: lot of Archie Archie. So I look for the issues

934
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: in my backlog of Archie comics where they're at the beach,

935
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: because for whatever reason, Archie was always in a speedo always,

936
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: and I found that to be very round. Reggie was

937
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: the hottest. Reggie was the hottest, and jud Moose hot

938
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: in his own way. Moose Moose was Yeah. Did you

939
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: guys ever play UM the snowboarding video game SS? Oh?

940
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: My god, I mean I know of it. I don't

941
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: know if I used to pull it to this character.

942
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: I used to pull and tug and jerk and flug

943
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: myself to UM this character Simon P. S y m

944
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: o N. He was like this ripped shirtless guy on

945
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: the snowboard and I would just be tugging and tugging

946
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: Google that. And I would always play as Alice, who

947
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: wore a high poem. Always always female character. I was

948
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: always except Mario kar and I was never Peach because,

949
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: like I have so much. I have so many problems

950
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: with Peach. I was always told Peaches the best acceleration,

951
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: and I always felt very queer. Yeah, I I think.

952
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: I think the reason that I did choose female characters

953
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: and fighting games and whatever avatar that I could choose

954
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: it was because I felt they were underrepresented. Absolutely, so

955
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: you identified with especially in Asian for me at least,

956
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: especially going to like Asian households and like parents are

957
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: eating dinner, let's have the kids play video games. Like

958
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: it was just this masculine energy of Asian guys, of

959
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: Asian boys being like we have to beat a boat.

960
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean like that's not culturally exclusive to us, but like, yeah,

961
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: like it's rampant. In Double O seven Golden, I that

962
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: first person that was everywhere, I always played as Natalia. Yeah,

963
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: I was Zenya, Zena You're more of and more of

964
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: because Jill could kill you with these school starting. Sorry,

965
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: I did not know it was Johnson until this. Fumka Johnson.

966
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: She was an early celebrity beard for me as well.

967
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: Mine was alicious over Stone. Um. I mean, i'll talk,

968
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: I'll do this off the year, but she was. She

969
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: was at SNL with Nick Jonas I think who never mind,

970
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: we just let's cut this was there like to see

971
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: Nick Jonas and Nick Jonas and do not do not Okay, wait,

972
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: never mind, we're not cutting this out. Funky Jansen was

973
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: at SNL when Nick Jonas was a musical guest and

974
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: she was waiting in the sterile with us for us

975
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 1: to go into the musical guy, I see, I can't

976
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: remember this. No, this was when Anna and I went

977
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: to you guys went, oh my god, I fucking love

978
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: Nick Jones. So Andrewsen and I went to s guest

979
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: of Suedi Green Big Jonas either um, but like he

980
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: was there and and foon Ka Yanson was in the

981
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: sterile with us just like too. I mean, I'm sure

982
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: lots of women are lining up to fun. So this

983
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: is a funny thing about like talking about celebrities that ways,

984
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: because I'm like the Jonas brothers not for me. Meanwhile,

985
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: like if any of them were standing in front of

986
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: me right now, I dropped my pants and media well

987
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: not maybe not maybe Kevin, I don't even know. I

988
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: can't tell anyone. You don't want to Ken who's Kevin?

989
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: Was like ear who honestly is probably fine. He probably

990
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: looks great. There's these photos of we'd be lucky to

991
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: have any of them. We'd be like, there's these photos

992
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: of like Nick Jonas playing baseball. Man. Oh man, wait,

993
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,959
Speaker 1: it's been He's meant to wear baseball pants. Some people

994
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: have a destiny. His is to wear baseball pants. I

995
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: don't know how he played. I don't know how his game.

996
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: Is this sort of tangentially on the point. I was

997
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: thinking about this when we were talking about Finding Prince Charming.

998
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: First of all, sucks that they were like just for

999
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: diversity sick, including like different body types of different different races.

1000
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: But one show, one dating show that was really diverse

1001
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: and like truly diverse, and like it made it a

1002
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: better show was I Love New York was the men

1003
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: were all diverse, and like it didn't really affect her

1004
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: decision of who she liked because like the second season

1005
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: she liked that that dumpy white guy away. That's actually

1006
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: kind of true a flavor of love too. I mean

1007
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: there was a much more diverse like sort of set

1008
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: of women and the kinds of women that were I mean,

1009
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: both of these shows are like so problematic, outrageous and

1010
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: like like in another reality, like I'm not even sure

1011
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: you can call it reality television anymore because it's just

1012
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: so out there. But god, god, um, somebody said to

1013
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: me yesterday that Elyssa Edwards is as is like the

1014
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: first prolific reality star that we have had since New York,

1015
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: and I was, honestly, I do too. But do you

1016
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: think we'll see Elyssa with her own reality show? Yes?

1017
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: I think logo would be. But here's the after the

1018
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: reaction to elicit this season, because it because like Elissa

1019
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: became a thing after her season, I've come to find

1020
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: she was not the Lissa we know on her season.

1021
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: Do you know what I just listened to today? Um,

1022
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: Michelle and Rue. They interviewed Nicole and it was like fine,

1023
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: but their interview with Alyssa like two or three times now,

1024
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: it's so good she is and she I think there's

1025
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: something about Alyssa Edwards that like even puts her like

1026
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: beyond Alaska to a little bit like how much? And

1027
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: so let's let's chat about RuPaul's jagers a little bit.

1028
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: And mind you check out Joel his reviews on Vulture

1029
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: because he does a great job recapping and he has

1030
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: seen the episode of this week. I have seen the

1031
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 1: Revenge of the Queens, and I can't go any more

1032
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: than just it is. I mean, you'll be listening to this.

1033
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm assuming people will be listening to this after the

1034
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: episodes comming. No, no, this will be out tomorrow, so

1035
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: this will be okay, well, I mean I'm no spoilers obviously,

1036
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: but it is the greatest episode of the show so far. God,

1037
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: it's really hard to like top the ending of of

1038
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: last week's episode with them in the Mirror, which was, yeah,

1039
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: just like an incredible way to end the episode, and

1040
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: you're like, how are they going to top this? And

1041
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: the content of the first three minutes is just so

1042
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: great and like everything I want to show the big

1043
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm literally thinking about pushing a trip back so

1044
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: I can watch it in a gay bar because I

1045
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: just need to hear the shrieks of gay men throughout

1046
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: the episode, because like tomorrow, because throughout the episode it's

1047
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: just like so it's so good. It's just like such

1048
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: good reality television, and like every every moment of it,

1049
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: it's like everything you want we're going to watch right

1050
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: after Um, okay, let's we talk about days. I just

1051
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: want to make a point and this is this is

1052
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: the Nick Jonas thing really quickly and about this. This

1053
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: is what Guy Brandam said, and Guy Brandam actually did

1054
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: say this. Um was that uh And he might have

1055
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: cribbed this from someone else, like another thought leader. But

1056
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: but gay in game in don't want to see someone

1057
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: on stage or on TV unless unless, unless he's a

1058
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: drag queen or um just like a porn star. Basically,

1059
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: you know what, This is really real And I sometimes

1060
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: catch myself doing this where it's like as gay men,

1061
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: like as a group or as like a pack, we

1062
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: are so quick to like hoist the women up like

1063
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: we all are in like our Lady Gaga camp or

1064
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: are like you know, Beyonce Camp or Katie Perry, and

1065
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: like we want to idolize all these people. Arianna grand

1066
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: Day nowadays it feels like and a little passive aggressive no,

1067
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: but like I'm just saying, she's kind of gotten to

1068
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: that point, like yeah, deserve and it's just funny because

1069
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: like we don't do that for gay men. Says this

1070
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: In on stage, and he makes a good point that

1071
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: we were so quick to be done with Sam Smith,

1072
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: and I get why Sam Smith is not my favorite

1073
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: person either, but we are forgiving of every other like

1074
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: female pop star. But Sam Smith says one dumb thing

1075
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: at the Oscars and we're like burning, Yeah, that's true,

1076
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: that's true. And also like would we would we like

1077
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: these gay men that are on RuPaul's dragons as much

1078
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: if they weren't dressing up like and you know what

1079
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we talk about them like they're women. That's

1080
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: why we love them so much. Like would we love

1081
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: Justin Johnson as much as Elyssa Edwards? I don't know.

1082
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: I think we might find out, because I think the

1083
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: reality show is going to be beyond belief. I think

1084
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be about Justin and his dance studio.

1085
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna see Alyssa Edwards, which I

1086
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: would love to see because he seems to really care

1087
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: for the kids. There are moments, especially in this episode,

1088
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: where they're they're out of drag for a lot of

1089
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: this episode feels like not a lot, not not the majority,

1090
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: not anymore than in a regular episode probably, but there

1091
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: are a lot of moments with Alyssa out of drag,

1092
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: and I think you get a good sense of them

1093
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: out of drag too, and it's like fun and I

1094
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: like Justin. I like Justin Johnson, I you know what

1095
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: I really liked. Um in the episode where in the

1096
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: last episode where Fife's kind of coming or Jeremy it's

1097
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: kind of coming for Elyssa Justin saying you switched it up,

1098
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: and she's like, no, I didn't switch anything up. Let's

1099
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: choose our words wisely. And I was like, absolutely for

1100
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,479
Speaker 1: the for all of it. Because Nicole Silverbury glast step

1101
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: On on this podcast said they are building up the

1102
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: edit for analysta versus VV blowout. Um, I don't know

1103
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: if I don't know if it comes to okay right well,

1104
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: and look who actually did something interesting this last week

1105
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: with this episode two, And I wonder if it was

1106
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: to appease FFI in some way. Is I don't know

1107
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: if you noticed this or where you watch this, but

1108
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: they cut out on the logo website the deliberation like

1109
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: the backstage like, um uh yes they did do that.

1110
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: There was and like and because I mean Fifi was

1111
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: being a monster, being pretty bad, like just being monstrous

1112
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: backstage and they like, I don't want to talk him

1113
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: to anyone, I don't need to horrible, which was truly

1114
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: like insane. And this was This was something that I

1115
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: realized watching this episode, but it's based on comments that

1116
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: she made at the end of last episode where she

1117
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: was talking about Alyssa and she was like, I was

1118
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: just tired when she was like justifying sending like choosing

1119
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: a lista as well, even though she we all forget

1120
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: and it's actually in this episode you you keep forgetting

1121
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: the last Alaska was actually the one who's had it

1122
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: her home. But like she's like saying, like I was

1123
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: tired of the judges like allowing her to get away

1124
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 1: with wearing ship and then and just being like, oh,

1125
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: but it's Alyssa, so it's fine. And it's like, bitch,

1126
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: weren't you the one who's like, we should listen to

1127
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: the judges. They're the professionals, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So it's

1128
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: like you can't have it both ways. You can't be

1129
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: like I'm done listening to the judges and of fawning

1130
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: over Alyssa and also be like, um, I don't think

1131
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with the way that Alyssa was thinking

1132
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 1: when she made her elimination. She I absolutely would be thinking, Okay,

1133
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: throughout the competition, this person has consistently been in the bottom.

1134
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: This person has not this person who's been winning challenges. Um,

1135
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: and so I see it the way I see it,

1136
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: and therefore this person is stronger and I'm going to

1137
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: keep them in reality absolutely. And you also know, you

1138
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: know that Fifi is just panicked because she knows that

1139
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 1: she's Yeah, oh this this, this meltdown is bad. It's

1140
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: hard to watch. Oh yeah, it really has to. And

1141
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: this episode is actually like a really great sort of reflection,

1142
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: like a metaphor almost for her entire social media presence.

1143
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: And mind you, I don't know who gets kicked off.

1144
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: Logo is not kind enough. Logo is not kind enough

1145
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: to send us the last minute of the episode. So

1146
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: I have no idea who gets kicked off until tomorrow

1147
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: morning when I get to call a logo producer and wow,

1148
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: so what so in terms of this recap that you're writing,

1149
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 1: so you would you can't even write it? No, I can't,

1150
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,479
Speaker 1: to be to be completely honest, I have a mole

1151
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: in viatcom that I usually ask who they get the

1152
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: full cuts, and I ask, but that mole is currently

1153
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: on a vacation and so she like gives me like

1154
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: a very assistinct like play by play and like thank

1155
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: god because like logo would only tell you who gets

1156
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: kicked off last week, And if you only knew who

1157
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: got kicked off last week and didn't know about how

1158
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: would you write comprehensive recap for because you have to

1159
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: you'd have to book an appointment with the therapist that

1160
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: mole is that Moll has apologized to me. She's been like, yeah,

1161
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I'm like no, like use it, like please?

1162
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: I would take full advantage. Oh I I literally was

1163
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: finding trying to find a way to ask Joel in

1164
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: the elevator, like, so, how do I, you know, get

1165
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: get the I mean, what what does the boy have

1166
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: to do? Um? It's like it's no fun that when

1167
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: you get to watch it without the end. I screamed twice,

1168
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: and it's like no fun to shriek when there aren't

1169
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: other games shrinking along with you. Although I don't love

1170
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't love watching them as a gay bar I

1171
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: find you know, so I watched almost the entire series

1172
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: leading up to season eight with a lover um and

1173
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: so like that was my experience, like watching the backlog

1174
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: of seasons that I hadn't seen, and then I was like,

1175
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: very sad not to be watching with a lover, but

1176
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: then watch But then I watched at gay bars all

1177
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: of season eight, and I would not have like that's

1178
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: the way to watch. It was really fun. I think

1179
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: communal like fun experience watching it my reality as I

1180
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: watched every episode three or four times. Anyway, I'll probably

1181
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: do one at the gay bar. Henry and I will

1182
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: watch together. One I'll watch it together. I watch it

1183
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: by myself one time. And then also, I don't know

1184
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: if you guys do this, but did you go through

1185
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: Logo TV and like the videos and watch all the extras?

1186
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: I haven't. I love the extras? And did you see

1187
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: did you see? Um? So after Fifi had her like explode,

1188
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: so apparently this is some t um Fifi was hosting

1189
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: at Rosco's. Yeah, at Roscoe's and after during a commercial break,

1190
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: she got on stage and was like, I just want

1191
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: to say, this is bullshit. This edit is out of control.

1192
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: They did not show Lysa's true critiques. Um Jeremy Scott

1193
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 1: was cruel towards Alyssa and did not have anything nice

1194
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: to say about her outfit and act. The comment the

1195
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: positive comment that they showed you that Jeremy Scott allegedly

1196
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: said towards Alyssa was said to Ginger Minge and he

1197
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: was like, I swear this is what happened, And so

1198
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: Logo put up on the website Alyssa full critiques Jeremy Scott.

1199
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: So it was a direct So what you're saying about

1200
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: them taking out that segment might be right. It was

1201
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: a direct response to something that Fifi set at a nightclub.

1202
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: So and also Rus tweets, so they're really paying attention

1203
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: and they do care because she's not going to the reunion,

1204
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: which I find very hard to believe that there is

1205
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: not a single thing in her contract that is not

1206
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: like compelling her to go to. But what what happened

1207
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: was she gets sued if she doesn't come, which would

1208
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: be a terrible look for a logo like that. I've

1209
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: been in that position before where it's like, oh, what

1210
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: are they gonna do. They're gonna like Fifi is not

1211
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: enough of a celebrity or a star for them to

1212
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: be able to sue her without it being a terrible

1213
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: look for Logo, And it's like that would just be

1214
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: playing into her hands because then she could play the

1215
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: victim even more. We'll go to her Twitter feed and

1216
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: look at her fans and it is outrage. It's so

1217
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: wild to me that she has so many defenders and

1218
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: fans and she just does nothing but retweet them all

1219
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: day and yeah, and it's like the same show that

1220
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm watching right now, because they're all like, yes, Queen,

1221
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: like you are, like you're such a good hearted person

1222
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: and that shows on the show and it's like where, Well,

1223
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: I think people truly want to want to blame the edit,

1224
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: but like again, like we've said a million times, like,

1225
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: you can't blame the edit when the words are coming

1226
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: out of your mouths and it wouldn't fit so seamlessly

1227
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: into the edit if you didn't allow them to have that,

1228
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: And also you should know better. I think, if anything,

1229
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: she should be disappointed in herself because she got got again. Well,

1230
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: I think this is the thing with Fi that I

1231
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: think becomes especially clear in this episode is that she

1232
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: is so concerned with with the optics of it that

1233
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: she loses like she's like she loses it entirely. Like

1234
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: I think she is like the other queens, Like she's

1235
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: constantly talking about her edit and while they were filming,

1236
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: and I think like her way of trying to come

1237
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: off looking better actually just didn't work for her at all,

1238
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: work in her favorite at all. It just made her

1239
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: seem like petty and respired and desperate. And I think,

1240
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: like they've and like other queens have said it, like

1241
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: on the show and online, like if she would just

1242
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: own this, Like no, the thing that is that is

1243
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: I think driving people up a wall is like she's

1244
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: blaming the edit and trying to play the victim, and

1245
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: it's like, bitch, if you're being a bit just be

1246
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: And like we love will Um. People love Willam and

1247
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: he was one of the biggest bitches on that show

1248
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: but it was great, but like everyone loved him because

1249
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: he owned it. And like it's sort of like you

1250
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: can't we've forgiven Roxy, who might have been worse, might

1251
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: have been worse on her season. And I realized halfway

1252
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: through this episode. I was like, I actually think Roxy

1253
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: has redeemed herself and like's she had got her doom.

1254
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: Roxy Andrews were doomed after all. Okay, that's a podcast.

1255
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: Um well I did want to. So the theme of

1256
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: this episode was going to be New York versus l A,

1257
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: the first ever debate debate. So we're gonna do it.

1258
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it very special. I don't think so, honey.

1259
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: Today we're gonna choose the United States city. Okay, it

1260
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be one of the jew that And

1261
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: you've traveled a lot doing really just this year though,

1262
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: like I, you've seen it, you've seen I've seen the country. Um,

1263
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Speaker 1: and we're all going to choose the United States city, honey,

1264
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: and we're gonna come for it, and we're gonna let

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01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: it know and everyone there. No, I came today wanting

1266
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: to I don't think so, honey, Melo. You apolis, but

1267
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: maybe that's too heavy for it's way too on the nose.

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: You need to know better. Okay, I don't think so, honey.

1269
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: You think we're all on the same page about okay, okay, alright,

1270
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: So also, I'm sorry, are we supposed to think that

1271
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: he's hot? No? I think people do think he's hot.

1272
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: Like those people, he looks like a like a fucking

1273
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: Madame Tussau. Yeah well actually yeah, Madam Tussau. That's like

1274
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: half melted. He looks like the justin Timberlake Madame Tussau

1275
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: got left out in the kid people. Yeah for me,

1276
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: hold on, let me let me make myself a victim

1277
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: right now, like so many white people are lately. Yeah,

1278
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: Bowen and I Bowen and I have had an interaction

1279
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: with a true fucking idiot. Um. I almost just revealed

1280
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: too much about him. But like, anyway, like basically, what

1281
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: was it about? It was about you took a screenshot

1282
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: of the of the alert for the child. It was

1283
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: the Chelsea bomber, the Chelsea bomber. We were up. I

1284
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: made a point of saying that it was bullshit that

1285
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: they just sent out like a Middle East going too

1286
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: heavy by the way, and now we're talking about Chelsea bomber. Sure,

1287
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: but let's let's just talk about this because this is fun.

1288
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: This is so basically, Yeah, that New York City fucking

1289
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: blasted it out to all of us and are just

1290
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: a name in staid see media for photo. And it

1291
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: was like you blessed out the name like ahmad something

1292
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: like we all like, you know, the masters are going

1293
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: to think that they're gonna think, are they gonna go

1294
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: actually go to the media and look for the picture.

1295
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: I doubt anyone did. It was just gonna stoke racism

1296
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: and everyone. It was such bullshit and also like if

1297
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 1: they had, honestly they caught him minutes later, like you

1298
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: know what I mean, they obviously could and did do

1299
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: this themselves anyway for this guy. So this guy. Um,

1300
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: I was like, well they were just trying to catch

1301
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: the guy, Like what do you mean? Yeah, he was

1302
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: playing Devil's advocate in a way that's just like so

1303
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: gross something. And I was just like, well, that's the

1304
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: police's job. The public, isn't the police. And then Bowen chimes.

1305
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 1: I chimed in. I was like, well, if you're just

1306
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: giving them a name and nothing else than every brown

1307
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: guy in the Tristate area, it just doesn't want it

1308
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: would be a fool to leave the house and like

1309
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: that's awful, and he responds, um okay, and I'm just

1310
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: like shut up. And then about eighteen hours later, he

1311
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: finally chimes back in and goes, well, what what would

1312
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: you have done? And I was like, um, like what

1313
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: were they supposed to do? And I was like, well

1314
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: they should have had some kind of communications person like

1315
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: think think ahead on this and be like, well, maybe

1316
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: this isn't the best day anything exactly, anything but a

1317
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: name exactly, so like it's so and so then this

1318
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: guy was like, well, well, you you're not really offering

1319
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: up solutions. And then finally I just lost my patience

1320
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: and maybe this wasn't the best thing for me to say,

1321
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: but I was like, oh my god, shut up. So

1322
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: today he posted a status where he just got really

1323
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: sulky and was like, Wow, I'm getting really exhausted and

1324
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: just downtrodden on how no one, no one I'm arguing

1325
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: with his bring solutions and all they can do is

1326
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: tell you to shut up. And it was like, it's

1327
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: so hard to try to find solutions when the argument

1328
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: on the other side is always just shut up. That's

1329
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: all my argument was. And it's like, what did you say?

1330
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: You were like, oh wow, like has fragile almost make

1331
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: them feel so endangered, like you must feel really just

1332
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: like subjugated by them, just so stupid, like white people

1333
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: like you don't have to jime in on everything. My my,

1334
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: my fucking favorite thing lately is white people, straight white

1335
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: people announcing that they're listening, shut up. Shut that stuff

1336
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: on social media is like what a performance? I know.

1337
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: And also like another thing that really gets me is

1338
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: it's like, um, just so you know I'm watching you

1339
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: and you haven't posted a hashtag black Lives Matter. It's like,

1340
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: shut up, you know. That is one of my actually

1341
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: biggest pet peeves right now is like people being like

1342
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: if you're posting bits or you're posting this, and it's like,

1343
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: I think social media is like ten years old. Ten

1344
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: years old, we're all still figuring it out. We are

1345
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: all still and it's like so like individualized and personal

1346
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: the way we use social media. I personally am the

1347
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: person who like posts after Orlando like a big long

1348
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: Like I am famous for posting big long screens on

1349
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: Facebook that everyone, oh, I do as well. I feel

1350
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: like some people, but some people just don't. People don't

1351
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: use Facebook that way and that's fine, Like and I think,

1352
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: like I it's just like so weird when we are

1353
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: expect people use social media in the same way when

1354
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: it is like relatively so new and none of us

1355
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: really have like there's just no standard, there's no tax.

1356
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: And that's when you lose your personality and become someone

1357
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 1: that's just on social media, when you allow it to

1358
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: become so fucking real to you that you're like, I'm

1359
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: personally offended that you're not taking a stand on your

1360
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: social media and I am watching and guess what, you

1361
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: know what I believe you. I believe that you are

1362
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: sitting on your Facebook wait for people to thousand friends

1363
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: on Facebook. How can you be like paying on everybody

1364
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: and not that that's the biggest problem in the world.

1365
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: Like and I'm but I'm just saying like it's frustrating

1366
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: when you make it feel like that, like just I

1367
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, all right, let's get to where. I

1368
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: don't think so Honey City Edition. I'm ready to go.

1369
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: All right, you have and I don't think alright, So

1370
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: for our listeners and maybe first time listeners, I don't

1371
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 1: think so Honey is the centerpiece of our show. It

1372
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: is UM sixty seconds to rail against something in culture.

1373
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 1: We have a very special locational edition UM. And Bowen

1374
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: Yang has is I don't think so Honey. I can

1375
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: see jillkan Booster thinking hard about I'm about to burn

1376
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 1: some bridges. I'm about to burn some bridges, Honey. Well,

1377
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to come from me or my homeland. Okay, no,

1378
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: don't worry. And Bowen Yang, I don't think so Honey

1379
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so Honey. Austin, Texas faux

1380
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: hipsterism is a farce, and I see right through you, bitch.

1381
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was walking down the streets of Austin,

1382
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: Texas in March, just this march, walking down this perfectly

1383
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,759
Speaker 1: manicured sixties art or fucking art deco whatever, it's hodge

1384
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: pods of inspirations of it's just perfectly manicured, perfectly white.

1385
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: Just everything is just so like it's just the veneerest

1386
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: cracking honey, and listen. I was walking down the streets

1387
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: and then this fucking white bearder do with tats up

1388
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: his aren't like a tat sleep was on a typewriter

1389
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: typing up poems for a dollar. And I was like, honey,

1390
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: I've seen this. I saw this in Williamsburg in two

1391
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. I do not care for this. Ahead

1392
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: of you, I'm ahead of you, and look, mom at

1393
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: like torties. I went to I went back to Denver

1394
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: and there was a new fucking Tortise Tacos, which is

1395
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: a taco chain in Austin, Texas. Great tacos, but like

1396
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: it was just so obnoxiously garish on Broadway in Denver,

1397
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh no, Like Austin's even like

1398
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: taken over this and like, I don't think so. Honey,

1399
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: Austin Texas, you're fake. I see right through you. That's

1400
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 1: one minute. That's one minute. That was Bonang taking down Austin, Texas.

1401
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 1: If I may add something about Austin, Texas. Yes, Austin Texas,

1402
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: I have been to you once. Yes, Austin Texas. Sides

1403
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: did have one or nine or twelve cocktails. Yes, Austin Texas.

1404
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: I did get into a fight and argument that almost

1405
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: got physical with the taco truck employee who's still fifty

1406
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 1: dollars from me. Yes, when I come back, I will

1407
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: find you. Yes, when I come back, I will get fifty. Yes,

1408
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: I did cry at the bar. That's huge and had

1409
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: to be consoled by my instin. You have the whole

1410
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 1: lifetime in Austin. Austin is the true Vegas. No offense

1411
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: to Chrissie Shockoler because an Austin Native, and I do

1412
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 1: like Austin. She's not an Austin Native. She's from around

1413
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, she lived in them. She moved there

1414
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: after college. Yeah, I believe she grew up in Dallas

1415
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: or outside of Dallas. That's true. But Austin, like I

1416
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, honey. I think I don't know, honey.

1417
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: Fan of Christy Shackelford and her work on four Nights

1418
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: in Orlando, but yes, or two nights in Miami. Why

1419
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,839
Speaker 1: don't you check out Bowen and Eyes four nights in Orlando,

1420
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: two nights in Miami series to find out Christie Shackoler

1421
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: the performer, what she's capable of, because she plays quite

1422
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: a villain like any worthy featured like guest role. Absolutely, absolutely,

1423
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: she is the guest actress she deserved the we're building

1424
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 1: up a lot of she is. She is honestly the

1425
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: Connie Britton to your sisters, Sarah Paulson in that like

1426
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: we only see Christie once in the series, and we

1427
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 1: see Chelsea a lot, but I honestly prefer prefer con Britton.

1428
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 1: But I feel like she's the Gaga of the series,

1429
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: where she's sort of the centerpiece of that series. A

1430
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: little bit, um guys were building up a lot of

1431
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: anticipation for the next theme park for our city, uh

1432
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: soap opera or horror anthology, and we can confidently say

1433
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: that it will probably take place. What is it gonna be?

1434
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: Three months in Los Angeles you're gonna be in one.

1435
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 1: It's gonna be just It's gonna be justin evening in Anna,

1436
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: justin evening and justin evening and Annah. And maybe we'll

1437
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: also go to Valencia, Darling and Valencic Spice Magic Mountain,

1438
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: have a night out on the mountain. I still said before, Um,

1439
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: I guess I'll go next. Okay, here we go. This

1440
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: is my I don't think so, Honey, here we go,

1441
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: bow and bring me in. I don't think the honey matts.

1442
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: I don't think that honey, time starts now. I don't

1443
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: think so. Cincinnati, Ohio, bitch was in you just last

1444
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: year and there was nothing to do. Your Panera bread

1445
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: clothes at eight clock, your your restaurants closed at eight o'clock.

1446
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. It It was a Tuesday evening. It's

1447
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: as if you believe that people have dinner at six

1448
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: thirty and then call it a fucking night. And also

1449
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: your hotels horrible. And I had stayed in a brand

1450
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: new holiday in and guess what, nary a restaurant for

1451
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 1: me to order from? What am I supposed to do? Starve?

1452
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,919
Speaker 1: You're starving for culture. I walked down the street to Cincinnati.

1453
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: I've seen nothing but industrial building. I've seen nothing. Your

1454
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: baseball team sucked, the Reds. What a name is that?

1455
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: I had to leave the city and go thirty miles

1456
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: outside the city to go to Paramount King's Island Theme

1457
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,520
Speaker 1: Park to find any some entertainment. Let me tell you something, Cincinnati,

1458
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so. You're never gonna get a theme

1459
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 1: song sung by Taylor Swift. You're gonna get nothing. Cincinnati, Ohio.

1460
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: You're boring your bland. You're not very grand. That's one minute.

1461
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 1: Can I just say really quickly about Sincinday? I agree.

1462
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: I also in the before I moved to New York,

1463
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 1: I managed a call center in Cincinnati, Um, very long

1464
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: from remotely for so. I worked for a company called

1465
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: group On. Heard of it, And my last job at

1466
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: group On was I managed remotely from Chicago call centers

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, Austin or Cincinnati, Virginia and Austin. Wow, that's legit.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, it was way too much responsibility for twenty

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Speaker 1: year old man. And let me tell you when a

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Speaker 1: twenty four year old game Asian man walks into a

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Speaker 1: call center in Cincinnati and starts bostling around all the

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Speaker 1: old white men that that like run the call center

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Speaker 1: there for the day to day. I did not love it.

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Speaker 1: And it was literally election night it was Romney lost,

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Speaker 1: so tensions were already high. But Cincinnati, I will say

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Speaker 1: this for them, they have a restaurant called Thanksgiving every day.

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Speaker 1: It is literally what you think it is. It is

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Speaker 1: a fast casual restaurant where you can get turkey stuffing,

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Speaker 1: uh like rolls, all of the thanks Giving fix things.

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Speaker 1: And it's brilliant and it's open until three. Everything closed

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Speaker 1: so early there though, I know. But this guy, this

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Speaker 1: place was opened by a college student. Oh that's brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Good for him. I was hearing the last time I

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Speaker 1: was talking shit about Cincinnati. UM was in at Maud

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Speaker 1: and our director at the time, bed Weed Marsham, was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm from Cincinnati's the nicest sketch. Oh yeah, he's great.

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Speaker 1: He's very funny. He fucking writes some some such some

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01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: So you just said you'd fuck him. He's attracted. I

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01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I don't know what I said.

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01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: In Park Slope at a coffee shopping we just had

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Speaker 1: the loveliest conversation. Is a very nice I like him

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Speaker 1: very much. Yes, I like him a lot, and he

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01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: writes some funny ass ship. He is very funny, I

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01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: will say in our one on one at the end

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01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: of two oh one, and I was in a hollacious

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Speaker 1: two o one class in the middle of the afternoon

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01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: and it was literally all twenty two year old boys

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Speaker 1: from Long Island. Sorry, like was it was just so bad,

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01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: but like he was great, and in our one on

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Speaker 1: one he was like, I can I can tell that

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01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: you're very, very funny and good at this. I don't

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01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: know if I always get what you. Ben said that,

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01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, you wrote a sketchow about

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01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: baseball and I liked it, but also same like I

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01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: know you're very funny, and maybe we don't we just

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01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: don't schell, you know, like he directed the show where

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01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 1: I played Ryan Murphy, and the whole sketch was just

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01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: turning turning television shows gayer because that's how that's how

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01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: you make them good. And Ryan Murphy's broad and I

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01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: remember just like I'd be doing this sketch in his

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01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: note to be like, yeah, okay, that was funny, just

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01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 1: be like yeah, I don't know for like going to

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01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: change much about this, but I love ben Um and

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01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: what the sketch with Dommin's a litto where he played

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01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 1: Dookie Tits. I didn't see that, Okay, no, look up,

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01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: dom Men's a little place. Dukie Tits Langon Kingsley's in

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01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: the video, Katie Ruth in it for a little bit

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01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: at the end, Alex dixons in it. Oh my god,

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01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: it's Alex Dixon's really funny. She's great. Okay, all right,

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01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: it's such a funny video. Joel. I don't think it's honey.

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01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 1: All right, this is Joel's. I don't think some new

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01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 1: debut and it's an anxiety and this is your legacy. Say,

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01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey as much. Here we go,

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01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, Joel Kim Booster jolly go Now,

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01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Saint Louis not Lois Missouri, bitch.

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01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 1: I see you, I see you so close to Chicago.

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01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 1: Do you think your proximity and the fact that we

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01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: share a river makes you as good as us? Don't

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01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: even step You are trash and everyone knows you are trash.

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01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: What do you favous for? Fried ravioli? That's not a food.

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01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: You can't just take another food and fry it and

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01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 1: say it's your signature fucking dish. You gotta come with

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01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: a good signature food, bitch, and your signature landmark and

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01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: arch that you have to pay twenty four dollars to

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01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 1: get into a rickety elevator to get to the fucking

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Speaker 1: top of the arch, I don't think so, honey. I

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01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 1: can go to Chicago and get into a fucking glass

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01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: floor yea Billis tower for a way cheaper than that, Honey.

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01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Your gay bar I went to it.

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01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: It's under a highway for like, especially good for all

1541
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: you fucking little goblin boys in in St. Louis, because

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01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't think, Sonny, your gay community side meant St.

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01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 1: Louis is gay community sucks. He doesn't. But everything else

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01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: that I mean totally you can own everything else. I'm

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01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm very happy with that. I don't think that was wonderful.

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01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: And also I learned a lot what how expensive to

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01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 1: go to the top of the arch? You know, I

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01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: just um, we got there and it was just us

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01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 1: in a bunch of fucking Amish people, and we turned

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01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: right around and found out twenty four hour speaking of

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01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: the word willis me Zach Willis and Eric Gerson went

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01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: to the top of the Freedom Tower a few weeks

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01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: ago and it was so cool. It was have you. Yeah,

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01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: the pictures are one thing, but the experience is another thing,

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01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: because you the elevator ride is like a ride in

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01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: and of itself, and as you ascend, like you can

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01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,879
Speaker 1: see that the creation of the city around you. Like it,

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01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: it's as if you started like year fifteen hundred, and

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01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: then when you get to the top of your twos

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01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 1: and sixteen and it shows like the rise and fall

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01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,919
Speaker 1: of the buildings and like they're being It was very emotional.

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01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: And then when you get to the top, like this

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01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: is a movie, and then the movie screen pulls up

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01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: in there's the view of Manhattan and you're like, whoa,

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01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: that's a cool experience. It was. I was happy that

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Speaker 1: that I did it. I'm going to do that. Um, great,

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01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: this is This has been a great episode of It's

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01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: been a great episode. We've learned a lot about the

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01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: musical theater past, which is which is actually a great

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01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 1: sort of like like a narrative for for for every

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01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: person who's dabbles in musical In fact, maybe next week

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01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: we should do a whole episode about musical there Broadway

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01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: cast chords, waitress. I can't get in half. I think

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01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 1: we have we might have a guest in mind. I

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01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: have a guest in mind. All right, Well, to be continued.

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01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Joel for joining us um. I

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01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 1: hate Joel Kim. That's your Twitter hand anything else, that's

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01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: where you can find him. Come on. So I'm on

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Speaker 1: Comedy Central third season of The Mountdown with Jonah CuMo,

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01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: which premieres on septemb I believe I'm on the first step,

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01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure. But either way you'll find me

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01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: on that season. And I We'm wearing a crop top

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01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: on TV. Absolutely you must and come see us at

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01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: um do perform in Lake Homo High. Will not be

1585
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: in this show. You're not going to be in it. No,

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01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: And there's this story off camp or off camp. We're

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01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: always on cam. Alright, guys, good night, good night, wait

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Speaker 1: Lost Culture Recess. Hey, listeners, I love you, we love you.

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