1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: RG three, newest edition to the Fox College Football Analyst Team. 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: He was on the call for his alma mater versus 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Auburn uh oh, and he'll have Delaware in Colorado coming 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: up this Saturday. Also check out his podcast out of 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Pocket With RG three, we made a big deal about 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: Arch Manning's debut. Not many players make their debut on 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: a national stage against the defending national champs on the road. Here, 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: it feels like we should be grading on a curve 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: here RG three because Peyton started out with who did 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Peyton play? 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: East Carolina? 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: East Carolina? And then Eli started out with. 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 4: Morgan State or something, yeah. 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Murray State, and then Arch starts out with Ohio State. 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: How do you okay, what do you take away from 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: Arch's debut? 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 5: Well, Dan Payton also, you know, had a pretty bad 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 5: game against Washington's eight when he went seven to fourteen, 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 5: had a takeover and during that game, and they still 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 5: won that game ten to nine. But for me, with 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 5: Arch Manning, this is just the epitome of the media 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 5: building him up just to tear him back down. And 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 5: there's a lot of people jumping ship on him, But 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 5: I do think you're allowed to say that he struggled. 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 5: He did, he misthrows mechanically. He looked like something was 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 5: bothering him. I don't know if maybe his shoulder was 29 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 5: hurting or something, but he wasn't following through in a 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 5: lot of his throws, and they were going at guy's ankles, 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 5: you know, really throughout the entirety of the game. So 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 5: I think for arch Listen, that manning name on the 33 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 5: back of your jersey is gonna add extra scrutiny to 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 5: everything that he does. But I don't think that he 35 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 5: now just doesn't know how to play football at all. 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 5: I think he had a bad game. I think we're 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 5: all allowed to have a bad day, and how he 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 5: responds moving forward throughout the rest of the season will 39 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: really determine all of his hopes and dreams being the 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 5: number one pick, you know, being a Heisman Trophy winner, 41 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 5: a Trophy candidate in general will all be determined by 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 5: how he played the rest of the year. But I 43 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: think people piling on him now are really just trying 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 5: to take shots at the mannings that they feel like 45 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 5: they've never had a true chance to do. 46 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: And I don't think that's right. 47 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: But this is what surprised me, probably the most. You 48 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: got Steve Sarcusian. He played the position. He's an offensive 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 2: minded head coach. You're going against a defense that led 50 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: is led by Matt Patricia, who, of course with Bill Belichick. 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: What could Matt Patricia possibly dial up scheme that Steve 52 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: Sarkisian wouldn't go, Hey, I've seen that before or I 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: haven't seen? Like what that's what everybody's like, Oh my gosh, 54 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: he's game plan you know, confused Texas. How many game 55 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: plan schemes can you have that's going to confuse Steve Sercuseian. 56 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, I don't think that they confused Texas at all. 57 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 5: And this is what I'm talking about. We had a 58 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 5: lot of people talking about how Arch was a generational 59 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 5: talent going into this game after him only starting three games. 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: Does his name a little bit to do with that? 61 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 5: Yes, But he also possesses a trait that the two 62 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 5: most famous Mannings that we know of with Peyton and Eli, 63 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 5: really didn't, which was his legs and his ability to 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 5: make plays as a scrambling quarterback and as a dual threat. 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 5: But on the other side of that, there's also the 66 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 5: protection of Arch, where they're saying, oh, it wasn't it 67 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 5: wasn't Arch, it was the scheme. I watched all the 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 5: tape three times and there are a countless amount of 69 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 5: plays that Arch didn't make in that game, or was 70 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 5: short on a throw first pass to the game, rolling 71 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 5: to his right, throws it at his receiver's ankles. And 72 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 5: it's okay to bring that up because it's what the 73 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 5: tape says, and the eye in the sky doesn't lie. 74 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 5: But when you're a play caller like Steve Sarkisian and 75 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 5: you're drawing up these plays and they're there, they gave 76 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 5: him a lot of pure progression reads, which means it 77 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 5: doesn't matter what Matt Patricia calls here, you're going one 78 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: to two to three, and Arch was getting through his reads. 79 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: He just didn't make those throws. Now you're putting your 80 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: off behind the eight ball, second and long, third and long, 81 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 5: and those are places you don't want to be on 82 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 5: the road, going against the number three team in the country. 83 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: So I think all these things are very easily fixable. 84 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 5: But as you know, in this media game, it gets 85 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 5: to extremes where people are piling on him too much 86 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 5: or they're protecting him too much. At the end of 87 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: the day, Arch Manning has to go out there and 88 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 5: make the plays that are there. I don't think Steve 89 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 5: Sarkisian was trying to protect him with his play calls. 90 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: I just think that it just wasn't their day. If 91 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: Alabama is averaged this season, finish that sentence. 92 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: Is what is average? Dan, give me a record. 93 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 4: Five loss four or five losses? Yeahs. 94 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 95 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 5: Kaitlyn de Boar's tired, and I'm a Kaitlyn Deboor guy. 96 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 5: He's been a winner everywhere he's been. Just to me 97 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 5: with Alabama. It kind of reminds me of like players 98 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 5: when they go to a different place and they find 99 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 5: success where they didn't have in the previous stop. Sometimes 100 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 5: it's not that the player can't play, they're just not 101 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 5: in the right system. It's not the right fit. And 102 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 5: for Kaylen de bor, if Alabama loses four to five 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 5: games this year, that doesn't fly. At Alabama, there's an 104 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 5: expectation of greatness and expectation of national championships, an expectation 105 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 5: of at least being in the national championship picture, and 106 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 5: September is going to be. 107 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: Very, very difficult. 108 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 5: They're playing Georgia here in a few weeks, and Kaylen 109 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 5: de Bor's leadership style is like the complete opposite in 110 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 5: contrast to Nick Saban and how he handled his team. 111 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 5: But I do believe that the fear factor of playing 112 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 5: against Bama has been eroded by a number of things, 113 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 5: not just Saban not being there, but also nil the 114 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 5: transfer portal. Bama's just not as deep as it used 115 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 5: to be and doesn't have that factor of hey, our 116 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 5: three deep is better than your starters because those three 117 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 5: deeps are now playing at other schools, which is leveling 118 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 5: the playing field in college football. So that's my long 119 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: way of answering and saying I love Kaylen Debor. 120 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: I think he's a great coach. 121 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 5: He just might not be the coach for Alabama, but 122 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 5: if he wins and they end up being in the 123 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 5: national championship picture, I do think that he survives. 124 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: Talking to RG three foks college football analyst and his 125 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: podcast out of Pocket with RG three, Yeah, I remember 126 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: when Kaylen de Boor joined us when he went to Alabama. 127 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 2: I said, do you know what you're getting into? 128 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: And he was. 129 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 2: Like yeah, And I'm like, even if you think you 130 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: know what you're getting into You're not. It'd be like 131 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: trying to be the president of the United States. You 132 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: know what you're getting into. I think yeah, I think no. 133 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: You have no idea, even Belichick getting into college football. Okay, 134 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: seventy new players and you're having eighteen and nineteen year olds. 135 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: You know this isn't NFL. You know, veterans taking care 136 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: of business. 137 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: Seventy new players. Yeah, I don't know. 138 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: Like, if they win eight games, that's probably what is expected. 139 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: But after last night, if I said eight wins over under, 140 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: you would take I'd. 141 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: Take me under. 142 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 5: There's a deeper conversation here with Bill Belichick in this 143 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: North Carolina team as well. You talk about those seventy 144 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 5: new players you mentioned jan in the NFL. These guys 145 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 5: are trying to, you know, put food on the plates 146 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: of their family, right, grown men. They understand their responsibilities. 147 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 5: They take it as a job. Those seventy new players 148 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 5: are trying to figure out where the utensils go at 149 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 5: the dinner table. 150 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: Right. 151 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: So these guys, these are young men, and you're having 152 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: to mold them. 153 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 5: And I'm not saying, hey, throw in the towel on 154 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 5: Bill Belichick and Lombardi and what they're trying to build 155 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 5: there at Chapel Hill. What I am saying is that 156 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 5: it was not recognizable for a Bill Belichick football team. 157 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: He always talks about doing your job. 158 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 5: They lost a turnover battle right one through an interception, 159 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 5: had four fumbles and they lost only two of them. 160 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 5: But they gave up one hundred yard rusher, they gave 161 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 5: up one hundred yard receiver, and then quarterback Josh Hoover 162 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 5: threw for two hundred and eighty four yards. So for me, 163 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: you watch the defense, no gap, integrity, no identity. They 164 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 5: weren't running to the football. And Kendall Browns is the 165 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 5: offensive coordinator for TCU and he was our receiver coach 166 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 5: when I was in college, and I haven't had a 167 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 5: chance to talk to him yet, but I know for 168 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 5: a fact that every single college coach that is going 169 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 5: to face Bill Belichick this year is licking their chops 170 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 5: to show him and show his staff that their scheme 171 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 5: is better than his, because for decades now, DAN NFL 172 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 5: coaches have silently been telling college coaches, hey man, that 173 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 5: college stuff don't work up here. And now he's going 174 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 5: to the college realm and they're all going to be saying, huh, Hey, Bill, 175 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 5: that NFL stuff don't work over here. They they're going 176 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 5: to use this as fuel to the fire because I 177 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 5: know a lot of players feel the same way that 178 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 5: the college coaches do. Why aren't we running more of 179 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: these college schemes in the NFL. 180 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: Explain that to you, Explain that to me in our audience. 181 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 2: So what exactly is it the North Carolina is trying 182 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: to do that It is going to be to their detriment. 183 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: First and foremost. 184 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 5: When you talk about the NFL game compared to the 185 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 5: college game, the biggest difference isn't just the age of 186 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 5: the guys in the maturity level, it's also the hash marks. 187 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 5: So in college football, the hashes are much wider, so 188 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 5: your boundary side of the field is shorter and the 189 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 5: field is much wider, So some of the gap responsibilities 190 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 5: that Bill Belichick is used to because of the tight 191 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 5: hashes in the NFL they go by the wayside. I've 192 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 5: had many NFL defensive coordinators when I played in college 193 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 5: come to college and didn't know how to play college 194 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 5: quarters because of the hash marks. Now you got a 195 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 5: safety playing quarters with way more field that he has 196 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 5: to cover on the field side, putting him in one 197 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 5: on one matchups. It's why coverage in college football from 198 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 5: the safety position is more important than it's ever been 199 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 5: in the NFL because you can hide those guys and 200 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 5: not have them on an island against a guy who 201 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 5: runs a four to two. So when you look at 202 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 5: Belichick and what their adjustments are going to have to be, 203 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 5: it's the tempo NFL. Most teams are only used to 204 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 5: Temple and two minae durals. I would just call Baylor 205 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 5: versus Auburn. Both teams are in Temple the entire game. 206 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 5: It was hard to get a replay in. They're gonna 207 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 5: have to They're gonna have to adjust to those types 208 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 5: of things. And then it's the it's the new guys. 209 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 5: You brought in Go Lopez from South Alabama. You got 210 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 5: Max Johnson there who came at the end of the 211 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 5: game and played well although the game was already out 212 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 5: of hand. Who's going to be your quarterback, Who's going 213 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 5: to be your difference maker? In college, that's way more 214 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 5: important than it is at the NFL level. If you 215 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 5: get one Lamar Jackson in college, you can win eight games. 216 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: In the NFL. 217 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 5: You need Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry and Za Flowers 218 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 5: and Marlon Humphrey. And that's what I think Bill is 219 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 5: more used to is those already pre qualified players that 220 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 5: he knows are going to be where they're supposed to be. 221 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 5: Now coming to the college ranks, it's just a lot different. 222 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 5: And TCU exploited that. Sonny Dyke said, Hey, they're talking 223 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 5: about Bill, they should be talking about us. 224 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: And I think they prove that. 225 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you talk about a quarterback, make a difference, 226 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: like you with Baylor, like Cam at Auburn. Who's the 227 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: greatest college quarterback of all time? 228 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: In your opinion? 229 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 5: The greatest college quarterback of all time? Just from a 230 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 5: pure accolade standpoint, you know, I'd have to go with 231 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 5: Tim Tebow. I think what he was able to accomplish 232 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 5: at Florida the speech is. 233 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: How about one year, one year, one year greatest college quarterback? 234 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna exclude myself. 235 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: From the summers of course you should. 236 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: Uh is going to put that out less you feel 237 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: like you're you had the greatest single. 238 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 5: No, no, no, I just think I think what we were 239 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 5: able to accomplish that Baylor hasn't been accomplished in anywhere else. 240 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: And the turnaround that we did. But it's a conversation 241 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: for another time. 242 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 5: Again, I would say from a single greatest year, Man, 243 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 5: it's it's it's Cam Newton. It has to be Cam 244 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 5: going from Blenn going to Auburn. 245 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 6: Uh. 246 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 5: And what he was able to pull off, like some 247 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 5: of those quarterback powers, Dan, I don't think anybody in 248 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 5: the stadium wanted to tackle Cam on those quarterback powers. 249 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 250 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 5: And to see like he lined up a wide receiver 251 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 5: and Moss the dB like like he was doing it 252 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 5: all that year. 253 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: And I know Cam, Uh. You know, we talk a lot. 254 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 5: We compete in overtime seven on seven with our with 255 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 5: our seven on seven football teams. 256 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: UH. 257 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 5: And Cam is he's out there, you know, the clothes, 258 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: the hats, he does his thing. He's got his own swag. 259 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 5: But when you talk about on the football field, that's 260 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 5: probably the single greatest season I've ever seen. 261 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 4: How do the Eagles not go to the Super Bowl? 262 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 5: They don't stay healthy? When you we talked about the 263 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 5: dynasty that is the Chiefs. The Chiefs wore a dynasty. 264 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 5: They were trying to do something that had never been 265 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: done before. Now I think the Eagles have kind of 266 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 5: taken that mantle of all right, let's go and repeat 267 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 5: and see if we can build this thing over time. 268 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 5: They're healthy, they're healthy right now. Obviously the combination of 269 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 5: it's like the Big five for. 270 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: Them on offense. 271 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 5: You know, it's it's Jalen Hurts, It's Sakwon Barkley, AJ Brown, 272 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 5: Devonte Smith and Dallas Goddard. That big five right there 273 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 5: is certainly the best big five, uh in the NFL, 274 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 5: because it's never been a Big five day and it's. 275 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: Always been like a Big three or a Big two. 276 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 5: So I think for the Eagles, as long as they 277 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 5: you know, don't get complacent. They're they're the favorite to 278 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 5: repeat a Super Bowl champs. It's just going to come 279 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 5: down to them staying healthy. And I think Nick Sirianni 280 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 5: is actually one of the best coaches in the NFL 281 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 5: and doesn't get enough credit for what he's been able 282 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 5: to do to keep that team together and. 283 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: Focused over the last few years. 284 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: What should like to go back to pass and you 285 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: have somebody with the athleticism of Michaeh. Parsons like like 286 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: like the it's a split second and you know he's there, 287 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: you got to kind of keep an eye well, you 288 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: tell me you're going back to pass and you know 289 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: he's there. 290 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 4: What is that feeling like for a quarterback? 291 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 5: Oh, it's uh, it's it's nightmarish, I would say, because 292 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 5: because Micah isn't just your Like I knew when I 293 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: when I played DeMarcus where and we were playing with 294 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 5: the Restings at the time and against the Dallas Cowboys, 295 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 5: I knew I could get away from DeMarcus because I 296 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 5: was I was more athletic than DeMarcus. But with Micah, like, 297 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 5: Micah beat Tyreek Hill in a race now, and I 298 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 5: know Tyreek was was kind of jogging whatever, but still, uh, 299 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: that was impressive. So you know, with Micah has changed 300 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 5: the direction his acceleration and his speed. He can't he 301 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 5: cannot only hit you hard, but he can run you down. 302 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 5: So I know you're getting into the of like the 303 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys and making that trade. It doesn't make any 304 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 5: sense to me because you kind of paid Duran Bland 305 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: to kind of distract from the fact that you traded 306 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 5: away Micah Parsons. And I'm always for guys getting the bread. 307 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: I'm happy for Doran, but we're not gonna forget that 308 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 5: you just trade or traded away the actual generational talent 309 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 5: that you've been looking for, and you got only two 310 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 5: first round picks form and those two first round picks, 311 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: you know what they're you're hoping they become. Then you're 312 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 5: hoping they become Micah Parsons. So that to me, you 313 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: got to get at least three first round picks for 314 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 5: him if you're going to trade them away. I've heard 315 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 5: a lot of stuff behind the scenes when it comes 316 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 5: to Micah, but on the football field, his production is 317 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 5: very hard to replicate. You have to ask yourself who's 318 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 5: in a better position now to win the Super Bowl? 319 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 5: Is it the Dallas Cowboys or is it the Green 320 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 5: Bay Packers? And I think overwhelmingly it's the Green Bay Packers. 321 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you as always, have fun, safe 322 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: travels to cd ON. 323 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, brother, Let's talk soon. 324 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 4: That's RG three. 325 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 326 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 327 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 328 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 7: Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. 329 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 7: Would mean a lot to have you join us on 330 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 7: our weekly auditory journey. 331 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 6: You're asking what in God's name is The Fifth Hour. 332 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 7: I'll tell you it's a spin off of the Ben 333 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 7: Maler Show, a cult hit overnights on FSR. 334 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 6: Why should you listen? 335 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 7: Picture if you will a world will We chat with 336 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 7: captains of industry in media, sports, and more every week explore. 337 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 6: Some amazing facts about human nature and more. 338 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 7: Listen to The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller on the 339 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 7: iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. 340 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: Luke Decock Raleigh News and Observer sports columnists for seventeen 341 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: years covering North Carolina football. Well, last time I had 342 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: you on, I don't know how optimistic you sounded there, 343 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: but house morale in North Carolina today. 344 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think it's fair to say that 345 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 8: things did kna go was planned in the Bill Belichick 346 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 8: debut last night. 347 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. 348 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 8: The first six minutes they get out their eighty three 349 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 8: yard touchdown drive, very clean, very crisp three and out 350 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 8: on their first defensive series, and you were like, oh, hey, 351 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 8: you know, maybe these guys did split the atom. And 352 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 8: then the next fifty four minutes looked like pretty much 353 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 8: every era of North Carolina football and the history of 354 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 8: North Carolina football. The talent level, I think is the 355 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 8: more disturbing thing than the coaching. It just, you know, 356 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 8: it looked almost like one of the late David Cutcliffe 357 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 8: era duke teams or where you're just kind of getting 358 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 8: beat at every position. The secondary was full of transfers. 359 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 8: It got torn apart. Their two best offensive players were 360 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 8: guys who were holdovers from the Mac Brown era. It 361 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 8: just it did not look like an acc caliber team. 362 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 8: It looked like, you know, a stew of a bunch 363 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 8: of things thrown together hoping that the celebrity chef could 364 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 8: make something out of it. And you know, you're up 365 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 8: against an established program with a philosophy and a foundation 366 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 8: and a background. And TCU did what you would expect 367 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 8: them to do. They went up against the team they 368 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 8: didn't know anything about. They made quick adjustments, effective adjustments, 369 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 8: and unc never adjusted. It was, you know, kind of 370 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 8: the debacle. The last time you and I talked, we're like, 371 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 8: how bad could this potentially get? I think this is 372 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 8: how bad it could potentially get. 373 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: Okay, it is one game, and I always caution people 374 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: whether they're criticizing Arch Manning or Alabama or it's one game. 375 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 2: But there can be breadcrumbs that are put down that 376 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: you go. I don't know, if I keep following this, 377 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 2: it may end up worse than this. I think the 378 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: over under was eight and a half for Carolina. Where 379 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: would you stand on that bet today? 380 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm still under. I mean I think to get 381 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 8: to nine wins time wins, you had to win this one. 382 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 8: That's kind of predicated on getting off to a good start. 383 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 8: You know, you win the TCU game, You've got all 384 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 8: this hype. You've got Michael Jordan, Lawrence Taylor, Mia hamm 385 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 8: Roy Williams. Not that Roy miss is a UNC football game, 386 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 8: but you had the national sports world watching, and you know, 387 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 8: Herb Street and Rhys Davis and Pat McAfee and Herbie's 388 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 8: dog and like everybody on the planets watching this football game. 389 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 8: And you're trying to capture all this momentum. You had 390 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 8: nine months to prepare. The eyes of the world are 391 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 8: on Chapel Hill. You've got all these stuff that they've trademarked, 392 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 8: Chapel Bill and Bill's version and all this stuff, and 393 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 8: then you ought to lay an egg like that. It 394 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 8: certainly if this was going to be what we had 395 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 8: been pitched, what the unc boosters and trustees had paid 396 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 8: all these millions of dollars for It was not going 397 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 8: to look like this. 398 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 4: Off the hop. 399 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 8: Now, yeah, it doesn't mean that they can't regroup and 400 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 8: figure things out and maybe make some changes in terms 401 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 8: of who's playing and who's on the depth chart. But 402 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 8: you know, the vision that was out there did not 403 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 8: start like this. This was pretty grim. And to be honest, 404 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 8: that second half, you know, TCU comes out, scores a 405 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 8: seventy five yard touchdown on the first play, Carolina costs 406 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 8: it up for another TCU touchdown. I mean it, it's 407 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 8: you know, I hate to say like a team quit, 408 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 8: but it did look like Carolina ran out of gas 409 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 8: physically and emotionally and just couldn't keep up in the 410 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 8: second half. That's not a great sign in terms of 411 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 8: what are the breadcrumbs in terms of what could work 412 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 8: going forward? When you had six minutes of good football 413 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 8: that you had nine months to prepare for and everything 414 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 8: else fell apart after that. 415 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I was going to bring up, Luke, 416 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: that you had all this time to prepare for this opponent, 417 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: you bring in seventy new players. Yes, you have Bill Belichick, 418 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: the King of adjustments, and I'm thinking, all right, TCU 419 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: is showing some life here. Offensively, Bill will make changes. 420 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: He did that famously with the Patriots. I just don't 421 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: know if you can ask an eighteen or nineteen or 422 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 2: twenty year old to make adjustments on the fly like 423 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: he was asking professionals in New England. And maybe he 424 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: didn't have the talent that he thought, because there felt 425 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: like a real disparity, you know, in the second half 426 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: of the haves and the have nots, and. 427 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 8: I honestly think it could have been worse than the 428 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 8: first half. There were opportunities for TCU to throw the 429 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 8: ball that they weren't taking because they really were you know, 430 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 8: like it's football, right, We're going to establish the run 431 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 8: game and get our go through our scheme and get 432 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 8: everything set up. And there were chances to take shots 433 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 8: deep against North Carolina secondary in the first half the 434 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 8: TCU passed on. 435 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 3: They did not in the second half. 436 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 8: And that would be the number one thing that would 437 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 8: worry me if I were Bill Belichick, you know, mister defense. 438 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 8: I mean, maybe there just weren't enough lacross players out there, 439 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 8: but the secondary's inability to cover and then the inability 440 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 8: to get pressure. I mean, it was just sort of 441 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 8: a cascading series of failures on defense, and then what 442 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 8: happened at that point the second half is the complete 443 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 8: inability to tackle. So now we've gone from adjustments to 444 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 8: cascading failures to just fundamentals. And if I'm Bill Belichick, 445 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 8: that what's going to keep me up last night more 446 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 8: than anything is we put together a roster that not 447 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 8: only can't make the adjustments you're talking about, but can't 448 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 8: do the basic things we need to do just to 449 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 8: win football games. 450 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: Talking to Luke de Kott, he's a sports columnist Raleigh 451 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: News and Observer covering North Carolina football for seventeen years. 452 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: Clemson at home in five weeks, Well. 453 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look, Charlotte on the road. I mean, now, 454 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 8: it's your first road game, short turnaround from Monday to Saturday. 455 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 8: You got a lot of things you need to fix. 456 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 8: You got a million dollar quarterback who look terrible and 457 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 8: has a sore back. Now, there are issues with this team, 458 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 8: even if they had won this game, that have to 459 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 8: be resolved before the Charlotte get Now, look, Charlotte struggled 460 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 8: in their opener. This is a game that you know, 461 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 8: it's crazy, Uns, he's gone on the road. This game 462 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 8: was set up years ago, as we all know in 463 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 8: college football, but this is no gimme. I mean, they 464 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 8: have got to get out there and find a way 465 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 8: to execute and do the things that they did on 466 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 8: that first drive and failed to do. It was just, 467 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 8: you know, the students were leaving, Like the third quarter 468 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 8: wasn't even half over. The students were gone by the 469 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 8: end of the third quarter. The boosters who paid for 470 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 8: this were gone. I mean, it was just the way 471 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 8: that balloon punk was punctured and burst and that air 472 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 8: just went out of everything. That's tough for players too, 473 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 8: like they have to get back to where they were 474 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 8: going into this game to play a team that they're 475 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 8: not going to be excited about playing. Forget about Clemson, 476 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 8: I mean that you've got to get ready to play Charlotte, 477 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 8: which is the kind of game that you would say, oh, 478 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 8: this is a potential letdown game. I mean, app State 479 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 8: and East Carolina are always tough games for these schools, 480 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 8: for UNC and Duke in State because those are the 481 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 8: biggest games on the calendar for those teams. And now 482 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 8: Carolina's got to go play in one of those games 483 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 8: against a team that's, you know, like everybody else this 484 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 8: season is going to be really fired up about the 485 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 8: chance to prove itself against Bill Belichick. 486 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: How patient should people be? How patient will the Boosters 487 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: be with Bill? 488 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 8: Boosters are going to be patient because they're pot committed now, 489 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 8: They've got no choice. I mean, they're there, this is 490 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 8: they made this bed. They're gonna have to sleep in it. 491 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 8: I think based on the fan reaction last night, the 492 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 8: patience has already gone. It's it's a little unfair. And look, 493 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 8: Carolina brought this on himself. Bill Belichick brought this on himself. 494 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 8: Michael Lombardi brought this on himself. They talked that they 495 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 8: had untied the college football not they were gonna come in. 496 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 8: They were smarter than everybody else, they were better than 497 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 8: everybody else. And it turned like I'm telling you right now, 498 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 8: Dave dorn Over in Raleigh, the NC State coach last night, 499 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 8: I guarantee you he had a cigar, he had a 500 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 8: solo cup of whiskey. He's got his feet up, he's 501 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 8: laughing his butt off, like these guys just came in. 502 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 8: We are so much better than you. We have this 503 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 8: figured out. We have Super Bowl rings and they got there. 504 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 8: You know, they got embarrassed in their first college game. 505 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 8: I think the fans saw that too. There was a 506 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 8: very strong element of the Emperor's. 507 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 4: New clothes last night. 508 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 8: You know, I joked in my column like, you know, 509 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 8: forget the cutoff sleeves. Belichick got pants last night, like 510 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 8: he got exposed, and that, I think, more than anything, 511 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 8: really sort of put a pin in the idea that 512 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 8: you know, the UNC is going to be in the 513 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 8: CFP and they're going to revolutionize college football and you 514 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 8: know they've got a new paradigm. I mean, it was 515 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 8: to get beat like that, to be out talented and 516 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 8: out coached and out adjusted, and to see what we've 517 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 8: known all on right. TCU out there out there tweeting 518 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 8: an image of the Hulu series and saying when's the 519 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 8: first episode? Like everybody is gunning for these guys and 520 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 8: they were totally unprepared for So I mean, to me, 521 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 8: the patience has already gone. People are just kind of 522 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 8: wondering how bad it's going to be. And again, look, 523 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 8: we talked about this a second ago. This is maybe 524 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 8: not the way the whole season is going to go, right, 525 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 8: Like you can get better. And if Bill Belichick is 526 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 8: the coach that he says he is and that UNC's 527 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 8: boosters are paying for, they will get better and they 528 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 8: will learn from this. And now they have film and 529 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 8: they know who they can trust in who they can't. 530 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 8: But you know, and if this was John summerl or 531 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 8: Jeff Monkin or any of the other coaches they could 532 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 8: have hired, we all be saying, hey, what did you expect? 533 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 8: They have seventy new players, right, this is turnover. There's 534 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 8: gonna be growing pains, and this is gonna take time. 535 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 8: But that's not what Bill Belichick said. That's not what 536 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 8: he promised. They were coming in to change college football, 537 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 8: to be the thirty third NFL team. And I'm gonna 538 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 8: make the same joke I made this the last time 539 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 8: I was with you. Like, yes, this was very Cleveland 540 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 8: Brown's esque. It was very much the thirty third NFL team. 541 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: Just to confirm North Carolina is still a basketball school. 542 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 8: I mean, the only Jordan that still matters? 543 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: Oh is Michael Well? Weren't they together with the dignitaries 544 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: up there a h Lawrence. 545 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 8: Taylor and Roy But hey, you know it's to me, 546 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 8: to me, this almost puts more pressure on Hubert Davis 547 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 8: because basketball is gonna have to make up for this. 548 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: You know, the uniform still looked good last night, though, Luke, 549 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: that's the most important thing. 550 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 4: Of course. Yes, great to talk to you. 551 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: I look forward to talking to you maybe after week 552 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: five when North Carolina is shocks Clemson and then what 553 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 2: are you going to write in your column? Then? 554 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 8: I mean, hey, look man, I'm perfectly compared for my 555 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 8: own come up, and so they can turn this around. 556 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 8: But based on the early returns, I don't necessarily think 557 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 8: that's likely. 558 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: It's certainly possible. 559 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 4: Thank you, Luke. 560 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: Luke de Cock. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 561 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 562 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 563 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: Search FSR to listen live. 564 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford expect to play week one according to the RAMS, 565 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: and Micah Parson's working through a back issue. He is 566 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: expected to play in week one and may need an epidural. 567 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 2: Speaking of NFL news, Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback 568 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: senior NFL reporter who was also at the Ohio State 569 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: Texas game. Being in Ohio State, apologies there. What would 570 00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: you wait, Okay, your takeaway from arch Manning was what he's. 571 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 9: A kid in his first game as the true starting quarterback, 572 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 9: his first game against an elite opponent, and I actually 573 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 9: thought he showed some resilience making some big time throws 574 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 9: at the end of the game. There was the one 575 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 9: to There was one for the touchdown down the right sideline. 576 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 9: There was the one to the tight end down the 577 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 9: left sideline on the final possession of the game. 578 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: So was it perfect? 579 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 9: No? I mean, Dan, I just look, and I've been 580 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 9: saying this for four months, like, I just think it's 581 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 9: as nine that anybody's projecting him to be the number 582 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 9: one pick in the draft. 583 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 3: We don't know he might become that, but you know, I. 584 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 9: Think there's so little that we've seen at this point 585 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 9: in scouts will tell you this is like, there's so 586 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 9: little you can take from two starts against a directional 587 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 9: school and what was the worst team in the SEC 588 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 9: last year. You don't know what's going to happen when 589 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 9: he gets knocked around a little bit. You don't know 590 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 9: what's going to happen when teams get five, six, seven 591 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 9: games of tape on him and now they're able to 592 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 9: game plan him. 593 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: You don't know what's going to happen when he plays 594 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: in opponent. 595 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 9: And this is a process that all young quarterbacks have 596 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 9: to go through. 597 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: And because of his last name, he's. 598 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 9: Been elevated to this level where. 599 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: The expectations are almost impossible. 600 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 9: I mean, go back and look at like what cam 601 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 9: Ward's first five or six games at Washington State looked 602 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 9: like when he went from Incarnate Word to Washington State. Now, 603 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 9: this is the guy who became the first pick in 604 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 9: the draft, right and he'd play. He had started for 605 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 9: two years at a lower level of college football, and 606 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 9: I think there was a i want to say, a 607 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 9: four game stretch where he threw seven picks. Nobody cared 608 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 9: because his last name's Ward, not Manning, you know. So yeah, 609 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 9: I think there's a lot of talent there. I think 610 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 9: the kid's got a great head on his shoulders by 611 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 9: all accounts. Like you know, I talked to Quinn Yours 612 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 9: about him earlier in the offseason, and Quinn loves him. 613 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 9: And that's a kid who would have every reason not 614 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 9: to like him. Loves him, you know. And I've even 615 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 9: seen some things that Archie has said that show a 616 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 9: tremendous amount of self awareness, you know, like where he 617 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 9: says things like, you know, I can't wait to see 618 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 9: what it looks like when I have I throw my 619 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 9: first pick, and now everybody goes from thinking I'm the 620 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 9: best player in the world to the worst player in 621 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 9: the world. 622 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: You know. 623 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 3: I think he's got the head and the talent to 624 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 3: work through all this. 625 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 9: But I think what you saw on Saturday was part 626 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 9: of the process of becoming a big time quarterback. 627 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: Will be less patient with Bill Belichick and the results 628 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: at North Carolina. What would you say would be it's 629 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: one game, obviously, but a little bit more disturbing that 630 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: this could be Yeah, maybe season one, maybe more systemic. 631 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, So I would say, you know, I expected them 632 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 9: to lose a game. I just think TCU has got 633 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 9: better players, and the reality is they were a talent 634 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 9: deficit in that game. That's a well coached team, you know, 635 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 9: say Lubick took them to the National semi the National 636 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 9: championship game just a few years ago. It's not some pushover. 637 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 9: They were playing in Week one, So I thought they'd lose. 638 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 9: What surprised me was like, what a bleep show it 639 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 9: turned into in the third quo and I don't know 640 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 9: if you like how much of the game he watched him, 641 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 9: but to me, the third quarter it was, I mean, 642 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 9: it was like almost bad news bears ish. Maybe I'm 643 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 9: dating myself. 644 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: A little bit with that reference, but. 645 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 9: You know, the first play from scrimmage is seventy five 646 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 9: yard touchdown. On the second possession, they convert third and 647 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 9: twenty with a steam route right down Main Street, and 648 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 9: then you know, the running back scores in the next 649 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 9: play untouched from twenty eight yards out, you know, and 650 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 9: then you had that the fumble return for a touchdown 651 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 9: a little. 652 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: Bit after that. 653 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 9: It just it felt like the team wasn't prepared, you know, 654 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 9: to come out of the locker room for the second half. 655 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 9: And that was what was alarming to me about it. 656 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 9: It wasn't it wasn't again, it wasn't that they'd lose 657 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 9: the game. I thought they'd lose the game. It was 658 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 9: the way that it looked towards the end. And so, 659 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 9: you know, I think Bill knows he's got a lot 660 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 9: of work to do, but that was something I think 661 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 9: you wouldn't expect from a Bill Belichick coach team, regardless 662 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 9: of how long or short he's been in a place. 663 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: Okay, you're not reporting this, but if I said, if 664 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: you were going to bet on this, what is Bill 665 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: Belichick doing a year. 666 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: From now coaching North Carolina? 667 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: Okay? 668 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, like I mean. 669 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 9: Look like there's seventy new players and that's the number, right, Yeah, Okay, 670 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 9: So Dion Sanders went through this two years ago of Colorado, 671 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 9: and I think Dion, if I remember I didn't he 672 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 9: beat TCU in his first game. 673 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: Isn't that right? But then what was their record? 674 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 4: I think they won more four games. 675 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: Right, So, like Dion eventually got there. 676 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 9: But I think some people looked at that and underestimated, 677 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 9: like what a herculean task it is to turn over 678 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 9: that much of the of the roster when you're dealing 679 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 9: with like nineteen twenty twenty one year old kids, you know, 680 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 9: and maybe Bill, you know, like underestimated what that what 681 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 9: what the what the task there would be. But that's 682 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 9: a really serious overhaul of a college program. And I think, 683 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 9: you know, now it's the benefit of having like at 684 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 9: least a game of evidence of it. It might have 685 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 9: been too much to ask, to ask for a really 686 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 9: great performance right out of the gate. 687 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: Talking Albert Breer the Monday Morning Quarterbacks senior NFL reporter, 688 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: how many teams were in play for Micah Parsons. 689 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 9: I think the number was it was six, like and 690 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 9: at the very end maybe less, but there were six 691 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 9: that were involved, and you know, the Cowboys took what 692 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 9: they felt like was the best offer. Now, I think 693 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 9: that the thing that people are missing here, and I 694 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 9: think this is a really interesting nuance to it, is 695 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 9: that there's a bigger picture thought here for Dallas and 696 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 9: what they're doing. 697 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: And I'm not going to tell you that they didn't 698 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: want to resign Micah. 699 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 9: They did, but when things broke down in the spring, 700 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 9: they had a series of conversations about like, okay, like 701 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 9: what are we trying to do here? 702 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: We haven't been to an. 703 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 9: NFC championship game, let alone a super Bowl only nine years. 704 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 3: That's the third longest drought in the NFL. 705 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 9: Yet we've I think they're top ten, top seven or 706 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 9: eight maybe and wins over that same period. So you've 707 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 9: been consistently really good, but never good enough, right like 708 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 9: at the end, you know, and I think they, you know, 709 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 9: with a new head coach now, Brian Schottenheimer started to 710 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 9: look in the mirror a little bit about it, you know, 711 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 9: and it. 712 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 3: Was like, okay, Like, so, if we are going. 713 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 9: To get to a point where we're going to trade 714 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 9: Micah Parsons, is there some sort. 715 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: Of pivot we want to make here? 716 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 9: And that pivot wound up being we want to like 717 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 9: really lean in on what Brian Schottenheimer's trying to build here, 718 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 9: which you've heard him use the phrase the greatest culture 719 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 9: in professional sports, and maybe that's a little bit hyperbole, 720 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 9: but like that's the idea of what. 721 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: They're trying to do there. 722 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 9: And then you look at their first two draft picks 723 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 9: in April, and it was two guys who are just 724 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 9: middle of the fairway from a makeup and character standpoint, 725 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 9: and Tyler Booker from Alabama and Donovan Azeraku from Boston College, 726 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 9: really productive college players who are really great people. And 727 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 9: then you look at what Dallas did here, right like, 728 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 9: which not all six of the teams had two first 729 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 9: round picks on the on the table, but the rough 730 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 9: ask was two first round picks and a player that 731 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 9: can be useful for us, and the Cowboys actually asked 732 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 9: for Kenny Clark. And I think the Packers were taken 733 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 9: aback a little bit by that, thinking like well, they. 734 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 3: Lost DeMarcus Lawrence. 735 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 9: They they're losing Micha Parsons here, we thought maybe they'd 736 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 9: want an edge player and Packers people were heartbroken like 737 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 9: losing Kenny Clark right. The reason why is because the 738 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 9: person he is, and I think that that was a 739 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 9: huge part. That was a huge part of why Dallas 740 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 9: asked specifically for him, because it's leaning into what they're 741 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 9: trying to build and leaning into that whole We're gonna 742 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 9: have the greatest culture in the NFL thing, and maybe 743 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 9: that'll be the difference maker for us. Now we'll work, 744 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 9: we'll see. But in drafting Booker and drafting as Iraku 745 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 9: and now bringing in Kenny Clark, I think they're kind 746 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 9: of looking at it and saying, how can we make 747 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 9: the locker room the best locker room in the NFL? 748 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 9: And how can we empower Dak Prescott to be the 749 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 9: leader of the team. And we'll see how all that 750 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 9: works out. But Michah Parsons didn't really fit into that. Now, again, 751 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 9: they wanted to resign them. I'm not saying they didn't 752 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 9: want to resign them, but the idea was, if we 753 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 9: do move on from this guy, what are we going 754 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 9: to do. 755 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 3: And I think you see a pretty clear. 756 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 9: Vision for what they're going to do on the field 757 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 9: with the run stopping stuff that they've said a million 758 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 9: times now, but also off the field. 759 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you don't bring in George Pickens if 760 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 4: you're talking about the locker room. 761 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's for a year. 762 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: Okay, But I mean, okay, now you can stop the run. Now, 763 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: can you stop the pounds? You know, you and. 764 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 9: I understand, and I understand there's a lot of that 765 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 9: right like in the Pickens things. 766 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 3: That's a good rebuttal there's. 767 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 9: No question like that's a big risk for them, you know, 768 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 9: but that's for a year and you'll see where that goes. 769 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 9: And in the meantime, like they are able to take 770 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 9: that money and and and sign some of their own guys, 771 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 9: you know, I mean dorn Blans want got done over 772 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 9: the last couple of days. Tyler Smith's another, you know, 773 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 9: you know, a real like foundation piece for them on 774 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 9: the offensive line that they plan to resign. 775 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 3: Like these things would. 776 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 9: Be more difficult if you had Michael Parsons making between 777 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 9: forty five and fifty million dollars a year. So again, 778 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 9: like I think there's just sort of a big picture 779 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 9: idea here in the way that they're going. 780 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 3: To handle it. 781 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: But Kenny Clark helps you now, but you don't need 782 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 2: help now. He's not the future. You're getting his two 783 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: first round picks. I mean, how did Jamal Adams got three? 784 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 2: There was three first round picks for Jamal Adams for 785 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 2: the Jetst. I just don't understand. If I look at 786 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 2: some of these other players who've been traded, defensive players, Yeah, 787 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 2: you got a lot more for these guys. 788 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 9: And I think that that, like that to me, is 789 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 9: another valid criticism, is like, if you were talking about 790 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 9: this in March and April, right, then you should have 791 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 9: created the tension point with your player then. And I 792 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 9: think that that piece of it, to me, is really 793 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 9: important because if you are putting Micah Parsons on the 794 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 9: market in March and April, there's way more of a 795 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 9: market for him. It's tough to trade a guy right 796 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 9: before the start of the season. Teams budgets are set, 797 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 9: their caps are set, their rosters are set. Like when 798 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 9: you're talking about bringing in a player of this magnitude, 799 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 9: like that's a big thing. The capital that you got 800 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 9: to fork over for him, and the contract you got 801 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 9: to fork over, Like that's a lot. And if you're 802 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 9: looking at the idea of this and you say you 803 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 9: put them on the market in March or April, well 804 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 9: then you're probably going to have more teams involved, because 805 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 9: more teams are gonna, you know, sort of have stayed 806 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 9: loose at that point with an ability to pivot and 807 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 9: make moves at certain positions that you wouldn't be able 808 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 9: to make in a summer. And then you know, like 809 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 9: you're also the other benefit of doing it then is 810 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 9: that you're actually going to get one of those picks 811 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 9: on your team this year, you know what I mean, Like, 812 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 9: so instead of having to wait until twenty six and 813 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 9: twenty seven to have those guys in your team, like, 814 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 9: whatever picks you get in twenty five, now those teams, 815 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 9: those guys are going to help you right now. So 816 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 9: I think that's a very valid criticism that they shouldn't 817 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 9: have let this thing linger. They shouldn't have let it 818 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 9: go through camp one hundred percent. I'm with you on that, Like, 819 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 9: that's a fair criticism, and they should have reached this 820 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 9: tension point with Michaeh Parsons and David Mulligetta and all 821 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 9: the people in that camp way earlier than they did. 822 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 4: You got your Super Bowl pick. 823 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 3: I can't remember who I picked, and I don't want 824 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: to go again. It was Buffalo, and who do I pick? 825 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,439 Speaker 9: I can tell how much work I put into this stand, 826 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 9: how much I uh, I picked Buffalo and the Rams. 827 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 4: I think even it Stafford's bank. 828 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 3: I think the Rams are gonna be really good, and 829 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 3: I think Devanta Adams, Oh, I think they're going to 830 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: be good. 831 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 4: But I'm I'm only worried about Matthewson. They go Matthew, 832 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 4: Stafford goes. 833 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, they do, and I think, I think Matthews back 834 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 9: is going to be all right. 835 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 3: I just the people. 836 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 9: That I've talked to there the I'm not minimizing like 837 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 9: what he's dealing with. He's definitely dealing with a serious injury. 838 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 9: But they felt like they could have. 839 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: Thrown him out there early in camp. 840 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 9: And this was more about Matthew's only got so many 841 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 9: bullets left in the gun, and we don't need to 842 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 9: be firing those bullets in the first week of August 843 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 9: or the second week of August, especially when Jimmy Garoppolo 844 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 9: is on the bench and he can come in and 845 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 9: run our offense at a starting caliber level, so the 846 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 9: other ten guys in the huddle can get all the 847 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 9: reps that they need running our offense. 848 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 3: To get ready for the season. 849 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 9: So, you know, I I that was sort of the 850 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 9: approach that they took, like until he's one hundred percent, 851 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 9: we're not going to put him out there, and they 852 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 9: got very close to that, you know, and before putting 853 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 9: him out there. And Matthew has managed these things too, 854 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 9: like he's had you know, I think from all the 855 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 9: damage she took over the years in Detroit, like as 856 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 9: extentsial injuries for a quarterback a wrist and elbow, so 857 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 9: you know, back is definitely not good for an older guy. 858 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 3: But he's managed this sort of thing in. 859 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 9: The past, and I personally think like they'll be able 860 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 9: to manage him through the through the season. And they've 861 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 9: got a damn good team around him. Like I think, 862 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 9: if you look at the young talent on that team 863 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 9: and the job that they've done moving out of like 864 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 9: the Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Cooper Cup era, they've done 865 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 9: a really really nice job of. 866 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 3: Reworking that roster. I think they're going to be right 867 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 3: in it till the end. 868 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay bandwagon is starting to fill up in first class. 869 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 3: I like the Bucks too. 870 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 9: I mean, the amazing thing about the Bucks if you 871 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 9: look at the roster, the number of guys that are 872 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 9: homegrown and the depth they have there and the way 873 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 9: that they've been able to kind of go from the 874 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 9: Brady era group. It's the same thing I was talking 875 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 9: about the Rams, and then draft and develop young guys 876 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 9: and and and get a year ahead of things like. 877 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 3: Like a Mecca. 878 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 9: Abuka might be not might might not be a big 879 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 9: might not feel a big need for them right now 880 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 9: with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin coming back off the injury, 881 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 9: but that's going to be a big need a year 882 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 9: or two in all likelihood, right, so you get that 883 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 9: taken care of now. They've done a really good job 884 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 9: of restocking their roster, having Zioncolum ready to go. 885 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 3: As Carlton Davis was walking. 886 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 9: Out the door, you know, like they've just done a 887 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 9: really good job of continuing to i mean, churn that 888 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 9: roster where when older players are on their way out, 889 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 9: they have an answer. And and I think Baker Mayfield 890 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 9: is is pretty underrated too. I think I think Baker's 891 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 9: got a chance to have a dynamite year. 892 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 4: Always great to talk to you. Thank you, Albert, all. 893 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 9: Right, thanks Dan, and by the way, thanks for the 894 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 9: fantasy draft. Your secret is safe with us. I will 895 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 9: say that we took every precaution. 896 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 3: Necessary to make sure of it. 897 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: Yes, some of those team names. You wouldn't want me 898 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 2: saying that around your wife, would you. But you can 899 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 2: see you can say mine, right I could. They have 900 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: all these descriptive names. Albert Alberts Fantasy League. Albert's team 901 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 2: is called Albert's Team. 902 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 9: That's because when we changed platforms, I forgot to rename it, 903 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 9: so mine wasn't very good before that. 904 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 2: Either everybody has some wild inappropriate name, and then his 905 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 2: is Albert's team. 906 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah that was I think that was yeahoo. 907 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 9: I think that was the automatic Yahoo name that they 908 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 9: slapped on it. But but everybody appreciated it was really good. 909 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 2: Albert Brier, the Monday Morning Quarterbacks Senior NFL reported