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Speaker 1: Fish Bites podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Ram Leighton, and I'm joined by Beat

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Speaker 2: Mets news Day beat writer. Still want to say Sun

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Speaker 2: Sentinel beat writer for the Marlins and old friend of

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Speaker 2: Fitz Stripes, Tim Healey.

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Speaker 1: Tim, thanks for coming back on the show anytime.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me so.

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Speaker 2: Of course we first became friends with you over here

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Speaker 2: at Fitz Stripes when you were covering the Marlins for

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Speaker 2: the Sun Sentinel.

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Speaker 1: We did a lot of fun work with you.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Now you go over to Newsday in New York,

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Speaker 2: you're covering the Mets.

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Speaker 1: It's been pretty crazy too.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it'll never top that offseason last year where

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Speaker 2: you're covering the mar or Olans basically fire sale, trading

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Speaker 2: every one of their best players away. Of course, that

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Speaker 2: that was a crazy start to a crazy rebuild. That's

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Speaker 2: been a process here that we've been covering a ton.

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Speaker 2: I think people might even get upset that I use

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Speaker 2: the word fire sale, But regardless, it was a hectic time.

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Speaker 1: For you to cover.

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Speaker 2: But the Mets now are pretty busy. They're doing a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff, but so is the entire NL East.

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Speaker 2: We're leading into the winter meetings now, it's been pretty

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Speaker 2: hectic what's it been like covering this offseason so far?

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's just started and we've got a

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Speaker 2: lot of momentum going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been it's been very busy. Not quite as

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Speaker 3: busy as this time a year ago, but with the

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Speaker 3: Mets and their their GM change, bringing in Brody van

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Speaker 3: Cano Edwin Diez trade, makes it feel like any pretty

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Speaker 3: much anything else is possible. So so who knows over

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Speaker 3: the course of the next month, month and a half,

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Speaker 3: two months, what's going to go down.

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Speaker 2: Well, something already did go down. We know there's a

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Speaker 2: lot more about to happen. But what's already happened, and

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Speaker 2: I kind of want to get your take on that,

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Speaker 2: of course, is the Robinson Cano Diaz trade. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Diaz was probably the centerpiece of that deal, being how

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Speaker 2: dominating he was of a closer last season. But Robbie Cano,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's still a viable second basement obviously only

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Speaker 2: played half a season last year due to the ped suspension,

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Speaker 2: bad contract tied to him, but obviously still can hit

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Speaker 2: for power, could still hit for average. He's thirty five

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Speaker 2: years old, has a pretty bad contract like I just said,

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Speaker 2: going into when he's like forty years old, twenty four

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Speaker 2: million annually until when he's forty, and that's kind of

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Speaker 2: a reason that made me a little skeptical of the trade,

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Speaker 2: especially giving up your first round pick and Colinic and

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Speaker 2: a couple other good prospects done and a few other guys.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of the deal?

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Speaker 2: Obviously they were able to unload Jay Bruce, which was

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Speaker 2: a big win in terms of the financial standpoint, but

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Speaker 2: it was a little bit of a peculiar trade in trading,

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Speaker 2: kind of mortgaging your future when you're a team that

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Speaker 2: barely scraped the surface for seventy five wins last year.

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Speaker 3: For sure. Yeah, I thought it was a pretty middling trade.

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Speaker 3: If their goal and it was their goal to get

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Speaker 3: mindset figure out the rest later, then yes, sure it

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Speaker 3: was a good deal, but it is a lot of

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Speaker 3: it is a lot in terms of prospect prospects. They

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Speaker 3: gave up Jared Kalenik, centerfielder they drafted in the first

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Speaker 3: A couple of years ago. He's a right hander. On

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Speaker 3: the plus side, they did dump Jay Bruce and Anthony Swarzak,

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Speaker 3: which makes the money issue easier and actually with the

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Speaker 3: cash the Mets got back, they ended up having a

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Speaker 3: lower payroll for twenty nineteen than they did beforehand, and

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Speaker 3: of course, adding Diaz it was the big win in

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Speaker 3: that trade. Fifty seven saves last year, subtwo eira point

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Speaker 3: in the short term it was a good trade, and

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Speaker 2: And it kind of brought up a conversation that we

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Speaker 2: it seems like the Mets didn't really get their guy

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Speaker 2: Were the Mets in on Clinic the whole time and

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Speaker 1: I think it was thirteen and he was or no,

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Speaker 2: So I'm trying to remember what pick the Mets had,

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Speaker 2: But regardless, what do you think that wasn't their guy

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Speaker 3: I think they were happy with them, and they were

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Speaker 3: sixth overall pick as a high schooler from Wisconsin, no less,

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Speaker 3: you know, acquiring a player like Diaz always stings a

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Speaker 3: the Mets decided it was worth it.

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Speaker 2: That's hard to believe that the Mets had the sixth

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Speaker 2: injuries played a large part in that, but I remember

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Speaker 2: a couple months ago I tweeted at you, why don't

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Speaker 1: I believe that was towards the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's the pressure of New York because

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Speaker 3: And fans are smart and they'll they'll get it. They

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Speaker 3: but the Mets looked at that landscape, they looked at

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Speaker 1: And the Mets definitely have the pieces, assuming that they

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Speaker 2: Is, like you said, is the entire NL East, besides

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Speaker 2: the process. And I've been punishing Jeter repeatedly. We always

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Speaker 2: explain why that rebuild is necessary to a lot of fans.

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Speaker 2: But obviously a lot of them have had their trust

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Speaker 1: But the Mets have as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Mets have had a pretty ugly history

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Speaker 2: But of course, one way to really do that is

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Speaker 2: acquiring JT. Real Muto from the Marlins. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: mortgaging the future. That's obviously going to be a trade

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Speaker 2: that mortgage mortgages the future. Excuse me a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but it's also a trade that will set your team

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Speaker 2: up much better for the postseason. And I'll give you

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Speaker 2: arguably the best catcher in all of the Bigs. There's

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Speaker 2: been a lot of rumblings about teams that are interested

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Speaker 3: Well, as we sit here Friday afternoon, at least, it

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Speaker 3: sounds like it's been status quo for a couple of

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Speaker 3: as has been kiddcase with every team, are setting u

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Speaker 3: pretty high cost for the Mets, needing one of those

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Speaker 3: A month ago, I didn't think the Mets and the

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Speaker 3: because I heard that the Marlins didn't view the Mets

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Speaker 3: I didn't think the Mets would be interested in giving up,

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Speaker 3: Nemo in a deal like that. But now seeing how

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Speaker 3: not going to rule anything out. The problem, of course,

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Speaker 3: is that it's not so much about mortgaging the future

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Speaker 1: But a lot of teams don't want to part with

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Speaker 3: I think yes. The other shortstop who's worth mentioning here

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Speaker 3: I think you still get the best prospects available. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think real Muto's one of the first chips that

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Speaker 3: But that's there are enough good relievers out there that

435
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Speaker 3: that's not as urgent and not as related to a

436
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Speaker 3: lot of these other issues as they try to fill

437
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Speaker 3: in behind Edwin Diaz with all those good free agent relievers.

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Speaker 2: The free agent relievers are something you mentioned too in

439
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Speaker 2: a tweet recently. You thought that maybe they could have

440
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Speaker 2: signed a reliever, and that that you're playing the devil's advocate,

441
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Speaker 2: I believe, just saying or that's something they could do.

442
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: I've seen Mets fans also make that argument with Gasmani Grondal,

443
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Speaker 2: saying why give up so much for Real Muto when

444
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Speaker 2: we could just go sign Yazmani Grondal. Of course, offensively

445
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: last year Grondal struggled, but you can make the case

446
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Speaker 2: that he can put up numbers just as good as

447
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Speaker 2: Real Muto at the dish, and he's a switch hitter

448
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Speaker 2: obviously behind the dish. You can't really make any argument

449
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Speaker 2: in Grondal's favor in terms of defensive ability although he

450
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Speaker 2: might be slightly better at framing. That might be the

451
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Speaker 2: only thing he has over Real Muto defensively. But do

452
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Speaker 2: you think that it might be a better option for

453
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Speaker 2: the Mets to hold on to the prospects and sign

454
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Speaker 2: a guy like Grondal or go all in on real

455
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Speaker 2: Muto and try and add Pollock.

456
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Speaker 3: You're right, it's very similar situations in terms of Das

457
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Speaker 3: versus the free agents and Real Muto versus essentially Grandal

458
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Speaker 3: as a free agent. Any free agent reliever would have

459
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Speaker 3: been lesser than Daz, and Grondal or any other free

460
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Speaker 3: agent is going to be lesser than real Muto. But

461
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Speaker 3: it is the difference worth it, you know, to give

462
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Speaker 3: up the prospects or just give up the money. In

463
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Speaker 3: the Daz case, they decided Diaz was worth it to

464
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Speaker 3: give up the prospects instead of signing a reliever and

465
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Speaker 3: preserving that financial spending flexibility. Having already done that, the

466
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Speaker 3: Mets system being even shallower than it was to begin with,

467
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Speaker 3: it wouldn't surprise me if they decide real Muto's just

468
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Speaker 3: too expensive and go after money owned alternative and a

469
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Speaker 3: free agent. But yeah, I mean, that's the decision they

470
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Speaker 3: have to make and if that's if that's the path

471
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Speaker 3: they end up going down, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

472
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Speaker 3: I'm not sitting here banking on the Mets going through

473
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Speaker 3: with the real Muto trade at this point.

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Speaker 2: And let's talk about the Marlins a little bit. I mean,

475
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Speaker 2: your a year removed from covering the Marlins just about,

476
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Speaker 2: but obviously still have a lot of nine months. Well,

477
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Speaker 2: it doesn't even feel if it feels like it went

478
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Speaker 2: really quickly. I still, like I said in the beginning,

479
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Speaker 2: I still want to call you the Borrowings Sunset and

480
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Speaker 2: olbeat writer. I'm so conditioned to say that. But you

481
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Speaker 2: obviously had a lot of a lot of knowledge doing

482
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Speaker 2: a lot of work with the Marlins. Of course, I'm

483
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Speaker 2: sure you keep keep tabs, being that you're in the

484
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Speaker 2: NL least. Still, what have you seen in this last

485
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Speaker 2: year in terms of just the Marlins rebuild and the

486
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Speaker 2: process and the progress that they've been making. Has it

487
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Speaker 2: been about what you expected, lesser or better than what

488
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Speaker 2: you expected? And what do you think of the move

489
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Speaker 2: so far in the progress that they've made In terms.

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Speaker 3: Of the twenty eighteen Marlins. They were probably about as

491
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Speaker 3: bad as everybody expected, but in terms of what matters

492
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Speaker 3: going forward, I think you look at trying to figure

493
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Speaker 3: out what pieces are going to be meaningful pieces when

494
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Speaker 3: the Marlins are good again. Now Catleb Smith, for example,

495
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Speaker 3: before he got hurt, that was a win. You know,

496
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Speaker 3: maybe Garrett Cooper too. The Mets that Marlins didn't get

497
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Speaker 3: to see a lot of him. Of course, on the

498
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 3: other hand, Lewis Brinston had a terrible season, so you're

499
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Speaker 3: not sure what he's going to be moving forward. I

500
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Speaker 3: think he would feel a lot better about the outfield

501
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Speaker 3: if they Sierra and Brinston both had good years. But again,

502
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 3: the rebuilt process is years long. So a year from

503
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Speaker 3: now we could be talking about Okay, yeah, centerfield is

504
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: not a question mark because it's not a great year,

505
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: and Sierra could be a you know, a really really

506
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Speaker 3: good fourth outfielder or you know, it depends on how

507
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: quickly those pieces come together. You know, not all rebuilds

508
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: are created equal. But I look at the what the

509
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Speaker 3: Cubs did, and all their pieces came together pretty pretty

510
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 3: much perfectly. You know, Chris Bryant was drafted high and

511
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: was a stud. They knew what Anthony Rizzo was when

512
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Speaker 3: they traded him. And they had all those other, you know,

513
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: position player prospects, and then signed a couple of pitchers

514
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Speaker 3: when the time was right. So in terms of the

515
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Speaker 3: Marlins rebuild, it's hard to tell how close they are

516
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 3: to contending because the twenty eighteen Marlins personnel wise were

517
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: just so far from what the next good Marlins team

518
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: is going to look like roster wise.

519
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think it's largely predicated that their competitiveness

520
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: next year is largely predicated on what they get in

521
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Speaker 2: this real Muto trade, whether it's a Nemo Confordo type

522
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: of deal where you're getting a major league ready guy,

523
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Speaker 2: or it's going to be some high ceiling prospects that

524
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: are far from being ready, which is fine either way

525
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: because next year doesn't really matter. But when you're giving

526
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: up your best player for no immediate impact on the roster,

527
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 2: next year could be even worse than last season, which

528
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Speaker 2: is kind of terrifying. But at the end of the day,

529
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Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter. It doesn't really matter, and you

530
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Speaker 2: get the high draft picks. Of course, to Marrowins have

531
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Speaker 2: the fourth pick in this coming draft, where they're expected

532
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Speaker 2: to take a bat and they could do a Chris

533
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: Bryant type of pick. It's a lot of really good

534
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: college bats that seem like almost as like Chris Bryant

535
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: type of can't miss prospects.

536
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Speaker 1: But as we segue.

537
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Speaker 2: Into the end here, of course I want to talk

538
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: about the upcoming season. It kind of gets your take

539
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: on it. Obviously, there's still a lot of moves to

540
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Speaker 2: be made. But let's just fun here. Since the Phillies

541
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Speaker 2: are the odds on favorites via Vegas to pick up

542
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Speaker 2: one of Machado or Harper, let's assume the Mets, just

543
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Speaker 2: for the sake of argument, get Rio, Muto or Grondal

544
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Speaker 2: and they get Pollock. Who's your favorite to win the

545
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: NL East at that point? And is it the Phillies

546
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: with going and making the major splash or could the

547
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: Mets be dark horses?

548
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: The Mets with they're pitching can absolutely be dark horses,

549
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: because I think you look at the second half last

550
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: year when they had the best rotation era in baseball,

551
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: and if they had any semblance of a bullpen behind that,

552
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: they probably would have been an actually good team in

553
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: terms of division favorite. And this might be doubling down

554
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: on a bad bet, but last year I couldn't believe

555
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: that the Nationals were as bad as they were. I

556
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: kept waiting for them to turn it on, and they

557
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: never did. With them having Corbyn, We'll see what where

558
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: Harper goes. I think they're going to have the bounce

559
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: back year with top three in the rotation almost as

560
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,239
Speaker 3: good as the Mets, and obviously a lot of very

561
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: good position player pieces.

562
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: And of course you have Juon Soto getting another a

563
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: year under his belt. Richter Robliss will be up for

564
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: a full season if they bring back Harper. That's a

565
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: scary team. And they were able to load up the

566
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: farm system a little bit by just trading those middle

567
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: aged relievers and trading Murphy to the Cubs and a

568
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: couple moves that really didn't greatly affect their prospects for

569
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 2: the future but got them a pretty good return. And

570
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Speaker 2: so the Nats are a sneaky team in a good

571
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Speaker 2: position a were actually my favorite to win the NLST

572
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: last year, when that was one of my probably worst

573
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Speaker 2: picks in terms of what I thought.

574
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Speaker 3: I thought the Mets.

575
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought the Mets would be good and I

576
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: thought the Nats would be good, and I was totally off.

577
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: I did predict the Red Sox to win the Division.

578
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: I was the only one on the fifth stripe staff,

579
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Speaker 2: and I think I've let everyone know that a couple

580
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Speaker 2: of times.

581
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Speaker 1: But other than.

582
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Speaker 2: That, it was pretty excuse me, pretty surprising in the

583
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: NL East. But of course you're going to Vegas for

584
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: these winter meetings, so I have to ask you, Yeah,

585
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: this is obviously included with potential moves that you think

586
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: could be made. If you're putting a bet down to

587
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: win the World Series, who's your pick.

588
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: I don't see right now how anybody is better than

589
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: the Red Sox the way they dominated the regular season

590
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: one hundred and eight wins, and then the way they

591
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: really see steamrolled through the playoffs, not going to Game

592
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: five or Game seven or not going to a final

593
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: game in any of those series. Never mind the fact

594
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: that you know, the defending champs are the favorite until

595
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: they prove otherwise. But you even put that aside, I

596
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: think they are on paper and on the field, the

597
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: best team in baseball right now.

598
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Speaker 2: People were saying that that was the most dominant season

599
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: in MLB history up there at least, would you say

600
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: the Red Sox had one of the most dominant seasons

601
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: in MLB history.

602
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: It's got to be up there, you know. I saw

603
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: a lot of talk that it was whether it was

604
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: the best Red Sox team of all time, and I thought,

605
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: of course it is. They one hundred and eight games,

606
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: which is a franchise record, and then they won the

607
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Speaker 3: World Series. So I don't know how anybody could possibly

608
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: top that. So yes, probably one of the best teams

609
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Speaker 3: of all time. We'll see how history treats them, but

610
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Speaker 3: I think it'll be favorably.

611
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: And just to challenge you even more here, obviously the

612
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: Red Sox will be the odds on favorite or probably

613
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: to win the World Series. Who's your long shot? Not

614
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Speaker 2: long shot, I'll rephrase that, other than the Red Sox.

615
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: You're you're trying to get some good odds on a

616
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: ten dollars bet on a bet slip?

617
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: Who are you?

618
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Speaker 2: Who are you taking as your you know, you're underdog

619
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Speaker 2: World Series team that could get you a nice payout

620
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: if you were to put a bet down in Vegas.

621
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Speaker 3: Underdog World Series team. Let's well, did aftros and probably

622
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: have pretty good odds, so they wouldn't quite I don't

623
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Speaker 3: know if they're quite an underdog. I'd say the Cubs

624
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: they were, they were down last year. But you know,

625
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Speaker 3: they were kind of like the Dodgers last year, where

626
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Speaker 3: I kept saying, they're they're better than this, and I

627
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: kept waiting for them to get hot. And the Dodgers

628
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: did and made it's the World Series, and the Cubs didn't,

629
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Speaker 3: and I think lost in the wildcard game if I

630
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: remember correctly. Yeah, i'd say the Cubs. Not knowing the

631
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Speaker 3: odds off the top of my head, i'd probably have

632
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Speaker 3: to roll the Cubs.

633
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Speaker 1: And I was.

634
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: It was one of those things where I was waiting

635
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: for the Cubs as well. They'd start getting competitive, and

636
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: before before I knew it, it was already the postseason.

637
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Speaker 1: It was time for the wild card game.

638
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: And that's why you really want to avoid those wild

639
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: card games, because anybody can win.

640
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Speaker 1: I mean, it could be the Marlins versus Yankees, and

641
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: if they have a.

642
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: Good day, they could take that wild card game. So

643
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: that's that's the terrifying thing about that whole system. But

644
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: it's it's something that obviously keeps teams more competitive. And

645
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 2: do you think that's part of the reason why we're

646
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: seeing so many teams in the NL East put down

647
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: put all their chips forward, because making the postseason is

648
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: not as much of a stretch with that two wild

649
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: card system.

650
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Speaker 3: I think it could go the other way. I think

651
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: the NL East teams are going all in besides the Marlins,

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Speaker 3: because the NLE East was so weak, so they, like

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Speaker 3: the Mets everybody else, looked at the analyst picture and said,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, like we can be the best team of

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Speaker 3: this vich Like these guys aren't that good. But in

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Speaker 3: terms of trying to make the postseason and it being

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Speaker 3: a wider field with two wild cards, I think the

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Speaker 3: two wild cards and the wild card game are so

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Speaker 3: unappealing because your season can end in a game that

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Speaker 3: teams like the Mariners, who won eighty nine games last

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Speaker 3: year and overachieved a little bit, are deciding to blow

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Speaker 3: it up as opposed to add and try to go

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Speaker 3: a little further. So I like the two wildcard system.

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Speaker 3: I like the one game playoff because those games are awesome.

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Speaker 3: But in terms of the net effect of you know,

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Speaker 3: competitive balance and teams rebuilding and whether that's a good

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Speaker 3: thing or a bad thing for the larger baseball landscape,

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Speaker 3: I think there's definitely a debate there.

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Speaker 2: And before I let you go, what is your final

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Speaker 2: n L East prediction. Of course, I'm gonna I know

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Speaker 2: the Marlins are gonna be last, But from top to bottom,

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Speaker 2: what is your NL East prediction?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, this is a tough question on December seventh, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm still going to hold it against you.

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Speaker 3: I'll go with Nationals, Mets, Philly's Braves Marlins.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so we're banking on a Braves regression.

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Speaker 3: I think so, I think so. But again, it's December seven,

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Speaker 3: so let's.

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Speaker 2: Say that I know, I know, I know, but I like,

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Speaker 2: I think it's never too early to start talking about it,

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Speaker 2: and of course that that'll adjust as moves are made.

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Speaker 1: But uh, that's an interesting take.

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Speaker 2: But the thing I like about the NLEST is you

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Speaker 2: could shuffle all of those teams around besides the Marlins

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Speaker 2: and no one's going to call you crazy.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of the exciting exciting thing.

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Speaker 2: And talking about not being called crazy, you could also

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Speaker 2: pick a few different World Series picks and no one

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Speaker 2: would call you crazy. And I think another dark horse

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Speaker 2: I like is the Cardinals after that Goldschmid trade, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be slugfest between them and

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Speaker 2: the Cubs and the Brewers to take that central division

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Speaker 2: and that's gonna be something that'll be really really fun

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Speaker 2: to watch. But I could see some regression from the

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Speaker 2: Brewers as well, but we'll just have to see.

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Speaker 1: When that comes.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the Winter Meetings are coming up, so definitely people

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Speaker 2: can look out for that for the coverage you'll be

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Speaker 2: doing there. Obviously, you're one of the main guys breaking

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Speaker 2: a lot of the Mets info on the real Muto

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Speaker 2: Dealers or anything else. Marlins and Mets fans and nlli's

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Speaker 2: fans in general can look out for you in the

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Speaker 2: next coming weeks.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, next week being the Winter Meetings,

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Speaker 3: this can be a busy, busy news week. And usually

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Speaker 3: aside from the news, I like, uh, you know, I

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Speaker 3: just like the tidbits and the color from the Winter Meetings,

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Speaker 3: the characters you run into. It's a it's an interesting environment,

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Speaker 3: so keep an eye out not only for news, but

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Speaker 3: for the some of the fun, quirky stuff that come

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Speaker 3: from that environment as well.

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Speaker 1: And I'm taking a total guess on the Twitter handle,

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Speaker 1: is it Tim B Healy?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Tim B h T A L E Y.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a feeling I think that I think

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Speaker 2: that's your account info for everything. I can start guessing

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Speaker 2: that now, but thank you as always.

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Speaker 1: Tim.

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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to have you on. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: all started about a year ago, maybe even longer, almost

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Speaker 2: two years ago, when you were covering the Marlins. We

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Speaker 2: were having you when the show just started. It's amazing

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Speaker 2: to see where you are now. Of course, over ten

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Speaker 2: thousand followers on Twitter. All it took was you covering

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Speaker 2: a New York I guess right, leaving the small Miami market,

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Speaker 2: and I've seeing you grow your brand and cover such

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Speaker 2: an exciting time for the Mets is really really fun

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Speaker 2: to see. Obviously, we're hoping to get to that point

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Speaker 2: over here in Miami, but it's always a pleasure to

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Speaker 2: have you on. Of course, we're going to be looking

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Speaker 2: out for what you're doing with the Mets in the

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Speaker 2: next few weeks and upcoming in the season, and hopefully

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Speaker 2: we'll have you on as the season approaches, or maybe

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Speaker 2: even if the Marlins make a real Muto trade, you

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Speaker 2: might be right back here in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: if you would like to come on, of course, we'd

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Speaker 2: love to have you.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Thanks thanks for having me, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's always good coming on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Tim.

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Speaker 3: Thank you you know it's always good coming on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Tim,