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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Tonnie willis here on Coast to Coast AM. Thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for signing up checking me out there on TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you follow when you go there. I see

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Speaker 2: a lot of you are checking out Larry the light Man.

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Speaker 2: That is yeah, that's when I was out doing my

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Speaker 2: blue rock talk show, which is you know featured in

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Speaker 2: it is my latest project called Creepy Hotspots, taking you

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Speaker 2: to live investigations of Bigfoot, dog man, strange lights, hauntings,

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Speaker 2: and one of the recent things that we had found.

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Speaker 2: If you're a blue rocker, you would find it under

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Speaker 2: up to the Rockies with a cop too. Something I

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Speaker 2: can't even think of it right now. Everybody's going they're

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Speaker 2: all repeating it to themselves. Saint Connie, it's you know,

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Speaker 2: with the cop with the cop anyway. Yeah, a police

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Speaker 2: officer went with me too, Erica Stiver went with me,

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Speaker 2: and this was the second time she went up there

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Speaker 2: with me. And we're shooting. We're live streaming the show

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Speaker 2: from the Rocky This is what you do, you know,

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Speaker 2: three three nights, four days. And as I'm shooting out

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Speaker 2: the back of the truck camper, and I'm looking through

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Speaker 2: my phone with the live stream of a platform called

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Speaker 2: crowdcast as I'm shooting it, and we're looking at these

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Speaker 2: solar lights that I put down. This light it's like

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Speaker 2: this big light shard to me, just shows up on

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Speaker 2: the screen, just pops up out of nowhere, and I

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Speaker 2: see it through the phone, but then I'm looking above it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like trying to see outside the window myself without

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Speaker 2: having to look through the phone and what I'm broadcasting,

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Speaker 2: and I don't see it, so I start kind of

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Speaker 2: moving it around too to make sure it's not a reflection.

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Speaker 2: Nothing like that's happening, because you always got to watch

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Speaker 2: out for that, and it's at night, so no, none

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Speaker 2: of that's even occurring. And I'm checking that out and

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Speaker 2: I'm just flabbergasted of oh my gosh, what do you

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Speaker 2: all see that? Do you all see that? And they

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Speaker 2: all start seeing it too, and it's just an absolutely

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Speaker 2: amazing thing where this like light shard that maybe four

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Speaker 2: to six feet I'm not sure, but it just shows

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Speaker 2: up and it's just standing over the solar lights that

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Speaker 2: I have, and it lasted for twenty four seconds, and

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Speaker 2: that just pops out just as easy as it popped in,

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Speaker 2: and it's got this movement of light like it's alive,

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Speaker 2: and all of us felt like it was a male.

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Speaker 2: We felt like it was all very intelligent. And these

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Speaker 2: are just the things that come to you when you

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Speaker 2: come into fruition of something that's out there, and you know,

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Speaker 2: like a bigfoot will want to run from a camera.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to get in the camera a scene.

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Speaker 2: But this thing could have cared less if we were

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Speaker 2: there or not. It seemed to pop in, look at

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Speaker 2: what we had, and hang out for a little bit,

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Speaker 2: then pop right back out. And I actually have it

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Speaker 2: on the TikTok if you go there, it's Kindie Willis live.

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Speaker 2: So go there, follow and you'll see many more things

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Speaker 2: that I'm going to be doing. But we named them

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Speaker 2: Larry the light Man. Anyway, very fun things. And thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for following me and being a part of it.

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Speaker 2: I see that a lot of you have joined me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Okay, so how many they could

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Speaker 2: probably understand that Nancy Tims is how it's pronounced right,

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Speaker 2: but it does look like same, So that's where people

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Speaker 2: will go, Well, it's Thames and you're saying it's pronounced times.

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Speaker 2: I know you've had to deal with that all your life,

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Speaker 2: or at least once you got married into that name.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was told. And so I okay,

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Speaker 2: So you're married, and you married the Thames Thames.

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Speaker 3: Man, Yes, I was a Bracken before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bracken huh and Thames and Thames well, I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you could have just said, look, I'm going with Smith

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Speaker 2: and forget it everybody. Yeah, just call me Nancy. That's

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Speaker 2: all right, make it easy. Now, Okay, you're an abductee.

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Speaker 2: You're you're gonna tell us all about all sorts of

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Speaker 2: neat things that you know. And and also a former

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Speaker 2: drives me absolutely crazy. Okay, so when people come to me,

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Speaker 2: the little they see the UFO and they see that

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Speaker 2: the military has captured it and they're talking about the

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Speaker 2: speed and they're going in this grade. Isn't this great?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, they've caught another UFO on radar, and

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Speaker 2: they're talking, the military is talking about it, and everybody

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Speaker 2: in the whole world is so excited that this is great.

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Speaker 2: There's proof, there's proof, there's proof. To me, that is

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Speaker 2: so old school, old hat. There's so much more evidence

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Speaker 2: for people, And I know it is for them, but

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Speaker 2: for us that have been in this for so long.

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Speaker 2: To me, it's like, oh, yeah, whatever, okay, yeah whatever, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they've been up there the whole time. Yeah we know that.

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Speaker 2: But we're more interested, at least me and I know

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Speaker 2: you are too, and why they're here, who they are are,

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Speaker 2: what they're doing, what their agenda is. So it's so

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Speaker 2: far off from that little bitty thing that they catch

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Speaker 2: on radar, because hey, you want to see something, go

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Speaker 2: to Sedona. You want to go, you look up, you'll

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Speaker 2: see tons of things in Sidona.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: But you also said this, you put SETI SETI. The

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Speaker 2: SETI does not comprise the real search for intelligent extraterrestrial life.

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Speaker 2: And you talk about the real research is basically talking

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Speaker 2: to people that are contact these abductees, experiencers, lifers, anybody

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Speaker 2: that has seen anything, Thank you very very much. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how said he gets all that money, and

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Speaker 2: good for them, but that it's here. They're already here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's so much misinformation and that's what's so sad,

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Speaker 3: and that's why I feel like it's important for me

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Speaker 3: to reveal what I know. They are here now, and

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Speaker 3: they've been waiting for us to reach higher consciousness so

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Speaker 3: that we were at an intellectual level that we understand.

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Speaker 3: They are not gods, they are not the angels. They

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Speaker 3: are simply being that are billions of years ahead of

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Speaker 3: us in evolution. And this is nothing new of them.

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Speaker 3: They've seen other beings throughout universes and galaxies go through

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Speaker 3: this very same thing, and basically they've just been waiting

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Speaker 3: for us to reach this level. And we are right now.

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Speaker 3: We're at a pivotal moment, and this is the greatest

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Speaker 3: time for humanity, for all human beings to be alive,

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Speaker 3: because nothing like this has ever ever happened for humanity

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Speaker 3: since the existence of time. We are finally reaching a

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Speaker 3: higher spiritual evolution. And when I say spiritual evolution, I'm

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Speaker 3: It's more than religion. We're we're understanding who we are,

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Speaker 3: and we're also connected to the universe, and we're just

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Speaker 3: now finally reading that intelligence level where we understand. And

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Speaker 3: as we reach that understanding, I think what most people

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Speaker 1: We are.

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Speaker 3: The disclosure is knowing finally understanding who we are in

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Speaker 3: the cosmic rem So it's a very exciting time to

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Speaker 2: Do you think. Okay, so to me, this is me.

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Speaker 2: To me, please tell me your thought on this too.

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Speaker 2: My thing is it's not the military holding it back.

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Speaker 2: Even though humans can keep secrets. We're just not very

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Speaker 3: Doing they're waiting on overall. This is not a one

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Speaker 3: we're here all free will, and there's certain things that

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Speaker 3: we have to make mistakes to learn. Coming to having

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Speaker 3: We're in a school and we're having experiences while we're here,

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Speaker 3: our mistakes. We will not have any spiritual or intellectual

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Speaker 2: So okay, and I have the highest respect for you

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Speaker 2: on this. This is great that we can have a

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Speaker 2: as in the alien tell you this? Or is this

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Speaker 3: Yes, And they explained to me like, for example, there's

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Speaker 3: So I kind of break it down between negative and positive.

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Speaker 3: And when I say positive, I mean they look forward

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Speaker 3: and become the being as we were meant to be.

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Speaker 3: The negative ones are not demonic in my eyes. They

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Speaker 3: are self serving, their agenda oriented. They only are concerned

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Speaker 3: it the way it is because they're dominant over us

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Speaker 3: as we are right now, and whereas the positive ones

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Speaker 3: So there is that difference. But the positive extra treacials

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Speaker 3: And one reason why these so a few random negatives

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Speaker 2: You think, well, I think you're also into the hybridization

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Speaker 2: By Jacobson.

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Speaker 3: I am familiar with the call, and I've investigated a lot,

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Speaker 3: I incarnated here to be here at this particular time

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Speaker 2: So at one point they said, and you're going to

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Speaker 3: Basically, they told me that this all started in my twenties.

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Speaker 3: When they told me that, and they didn't tell me everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What was They took my subconscious and opened it up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was weird. It scared me to death.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know what was happening. They didn't forewarm me.

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Speaker 2: We blow it off. We blow it off, right, We

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Speaker 2: just like they're like, ah, yeah, whatever, that was a dream,

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Speaker 3: Right. I think everybody's had contact with extraterrestrials one way

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Speaker 3: I think that's what this waking up a process is

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Speaker 3: know all these things that we've always wondered about ourselves.

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Speaker 3: We are going to look within and find our inner

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Speaker 3: to make the biggest difference in humanity ever and a

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Speaker 3: lot of things. For what I've seen from the visions

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Speaker 3: we are today. And I think it's just a wonderful

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