WEBVTT - SYLK-E FYNE - Tuna Mac n Cheese

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have a

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<v Speaker 1>West Coast legend in the building. Writer recording artists creator

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<v Speaker 1>Silky Fine is in the building. Most of us know

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<v Speaker 1>her from her single Romeo and Juliet. But you also

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<v Speaker 1>did a track on Easy Eas record. It was called

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<v Speaker 1>what was it called straight Straight off the Streets of Compton.

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<v Speaker 2>And the single was called old School Shit, Old School Shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is cool because it's very It's not very

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<v Speaker 1>often we get a legend, but it's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from the East Coast, here from the West Coast

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<v Speaker 1>to have a legend from the West Coast, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure we're gonna hear a lot of juicy stories involving

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully pocking Easy E. But in the interim for right now,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell me what you ate while you were broke?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you right now. I was eating tuna.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt tuna mac.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny because this is a dish that I actually make.

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<v Speaker 1>But go ahead and tell us what the ingredients are.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the ingredients is simple. It's simply a box

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<v Speaker 3>of Kraft. It has to be Kraft. You can get

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<v Speaker 3>it for about ninety nine cents on sale dollar twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five Kraft macaroni and cheese. Your standard can of tunas.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to use two cans of tuna. Drink very

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<v Speaker 3>well so that you can get your protein, half a

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<v Speaker 3>cup of milk butter, and then throw some has to

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<v Speaker 3>be the real cheese, not the imitation cheese. But put

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of sliced cheeses and you'll be set.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is a dish. I've done it before.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never was smart enough to add the Craft single

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<v Speaker 1>cheeses in it, but now I'm going to add that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then just for our listeners, this dish is literally

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<v Speaker 1>a couple bucks. I'm pretty sure it feeds two people.

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<v Speaker 1>Full right, I would say, you know, if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>good heavy eater, this dish will make you. But definitely

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<v Speaker 1>in today's market, this is like a three dollars dish.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's go ahead and have you cooked for me.

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<v Speaker 3>No problem, I'm honored to be here and wow broke. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm gonna get started.

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<v Speaker 1>We did preheat the water, so you may have to

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<v Speaker 1>bring it back up to a boil.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we're gonna cause I've been watching. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>how can you cook? Somebody go burn itself up such

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<v Speaker 3>a mess. But anyway, we're gonna start with the craft

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<v Speaker 3>macaroni and cheese, which your water has to boil. Do

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<v Speaker 3>not over boil the noodles because you may as well

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<v Speaker 3>make a pot of top raamen or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think you may have to bring it up

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit. Is always I was boiling.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, listen, guys, just so you know, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>track record of destroying everyone's dish on the show. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't help it. I'm like the passenger that's telling you

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<v Speaker 1>how to drive. I need to stay alone.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really a fan of eating while broke.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've watched some of the guests and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>you never cooked the thing in your life?

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<v Speaker 4>You know who I think never cooked? Believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's Mario.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry Mario, right, even though he was the one that

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<v Speaker 1>caught it was burning. But can you take me back

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<v Speaker 1>to what was going on in the time of Tuna Mac.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, see, I came from a middle class family, so

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<v Speaker 3>I really didn't experience broke until I became an adult

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<v Speaker 3>and I wanted to chase my dream and I became

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<v Speaker 3>an artist. So tuna mac for me really happened at

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<v Speaker 3>about the age of nineteen twenty because my mom she

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<v Speaker 3>would cook the real deal, homemade of tuna casseroles. She

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<v Speaker 3>would make rich beans and rice and hotstails. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>no be a creole, but you know our family. It's

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<v Speaker 3>from Baton Rouge. But I'm a California girl born and raised. However,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have the typical personality of a typical La girl.

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<v Speaker 4>But when did you start falling in love with hip hop?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, growing up on the West Coast, you have choices,

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<v Speaker 3>and in my teenage youthful years, it was like, either.

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<v Speaker 2>You gonna be a gang member?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you gonna be a entertainer, because I've always had

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<v Speaker 3>the gift to freestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my gift.

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<v Speaker 3>And then going back to elementary school, I was labeled

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<v Speaker 3>gifted because I would write terrific poems and journalism.

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<v Speaker 2>I can read, and I would win spelling bees.

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<v Speaker 3>So Century Park Elementary shots out ice killed. We all

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<v Speaker 3>went to elementary school together. So I was just like

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<v Speaker 3>middle class raised on the West side of Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't experience this until I thought I was

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<v Speaker 3>grown on my own.

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<v Speaker 4>What did your parents do well?

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<v Speaker 3>My mom she was a nurse, which she remained the

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<v Speaker 3>nurse at General Hospital for like until they really closed

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<v Speaker 3>the building down. She was like a top nurse RIN.

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<v Speaker 3>So she dealt with healthcare for since I was a

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<v Speaker 3>little girl. She started out driving school buses and then

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<v Speaker 3>she became an RIN.

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<v Speaker 4>So what about your father really.

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<v Speaker 2>Into the healthcare?

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<v Speaker 3>My dad, he was a pharmacist at General Hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so both parents are doing really good.

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<v Speaker 3>So my dad he retired from General Hospital, but unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>he passed away in two thousand. Oh my goodness, two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and twenty nineteen. So I lost my dad. But

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<v Speaker 3>then my stepdad, which was my mom's husband because she

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<v Speaker 3>had separated from my dad.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, oh okay, they weren't together business.

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<v Speaker 3>But then my stepdad stepped in and he's awesome. He

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<v Speaker 3>is a he owns his own construction company. So his

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<v Speaker 3>company is called Lakeview Enterprise black Old. He has been

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<v Speaker 3>in the business for over fifty seven years.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets awards, he's top rating.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were like going on camping trips and fishing trips. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we had a boat parked in our yard and we

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<v Speaker 3>had a Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of my friends growing.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, was like, oh, they used to call me peaches

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<v Speaker 3>before I had.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotten Now you started pursuing rap music before the age

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen or is nineteen and you said, okay, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, actually I started at fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Henry Clay Junior High School in Gardena, California.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta be careful with electric stoves because see, when

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<v Speaker 3>I was broke, I had guess though and hope that

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<v Speaker 3>I paid the gas bill, but you know it to'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Overcook your stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, you have to be careful with the

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<v Speaker 3>electric stalls. But I'm gonna give it about another two minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like mush, So anyway, yeah, definitely. I went to

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<v Speaker 3>Henry Clay Junior High School.

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<v Speaker 2>M yeah, a couple of women.

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<v Speaker 3>So I actually, you know in the yearbook they have

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<v Speaker 3>a theme called best Dressed, Cutest Couple. Well, I was

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<v Speaker 3>a creator since I was born, so I started the

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<v Speaker 3>thing called the best Rapper.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, and what year is this?

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<v Speaker 2>This was nineteen ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, my.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry ninety seven? Are you serious? All? Yeah, nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say what year did hip hop's come out?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I know we're this when my record.

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<v Speaker 4>Came home, and uh, we're coming up on the fifty

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<v Speaker 4>year anniversary of hip hop, So do you refresh my

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<v Speaker 4>memory on what year hip hop's started? One year? Was

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<v Speaker 4>that nineteen eight? I want to say nineteen eighty nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>My age when I got familiar with hip hop, it

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<v Speaker 3>was definitely nineteen eighty, yeah, but then it might even

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<v Speaker 3>went back to seventy nine because it might have been

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<v Speaker 3>in Africa, been Bottles and the people before Curtis Blow.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It may be seventy five, because if you do the math,

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<v Speaker 1>it's twenty twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be fifty yeah, right, it would be in

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<v Speaker 4>the seventies.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they did have Shirl with the Pearl ringding

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<v Speaker 3>Dom ding Ding Dom. That might have been seventy seventy

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<v Speaker 3>eight or seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 4>So you strike out on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mom is she in support of this pursuance of music?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really? Not really?

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<v Speaker 4>So what was?

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<v Speaker 2>What was?

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<v Speaker 4>What did you originally want you to do?

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<v Speaker 3>She wanted me to be a lawyer, she wanted me

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<v Speaker 3>to continue to be in school, but she also knows

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<v Speaker 3>that my passion is writing. My passion is communicating. So

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<v Speaker 3>then I always had a nick a knack for that.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, ninth grade, boom, I won the

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<v Speaker 3>best rapper of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't go had on?

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<v Speaker 1>And what did she say about all this? Was she

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<v Speaker 1>embracing in which she embraced.

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<v Speaker 3>It and she was a little shock because she didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have that type of background.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so never.

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<v Speaker 3>Did she even like get involved with music. She'd listened

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<v Speaker 3>to it, but my mom wasn't really a fan of music.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like a movie person, a lifetime based on the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're going rogue? Is there? Is there? Do you

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<v Speaker 4>have siblings?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm from my mom, I have one brother, a

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<v Speaker 3>little brother, and a little sister. I'm thirteen years older

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<v Speaker 3>than my little sister. And then I'm twenty one years

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<v Speaker 3>older than my little brother because my mother couldn't stop nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>But and then from my dad, I have a big sister.

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<v Speaker 3>She's two years older than me. So I have one

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<v Speaker 3>sister with the same dad, and then I have a

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<v Speaker 3>brother and sister with the same mom.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, so take me take me back to nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old you. You're pursuing music. What's going on? You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a record deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet No, I don't have a record deal. So I

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<v Speaker 3>got in the Best of the West Rap contest to

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<v Speaker 3>Iced Tea was the judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen eighty five.

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<v Speaker 3>I was fresh in high school, so I was going

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<v Speaker 3>out and getting in talent shows, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>got with a small independent label that was called Neighborhood Records,

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<v Speaker 3>and nothing ever happened. I did perform with C. C.

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<v Speaker 3>Penn Easton when I was like eighteen years old at

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<v Speaker 3>the Hollywood House of Blues, So I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like striving to do this thing called rap.

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<v Speaker 2>That little label shouts out to Neighborhood Records. It really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't well.

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<v Speaker 4>So what happened when you were on the record, Did

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<v Speaker 4>you get to release an album or no.

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<v Speaker 3>I started with that little independent company they were trying.

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<v Speaker 3>So then you know, I would get in the student

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<v Speaker 3>with different producers, and I was working with this one producer.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to my guy, the real Richie rich out

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<v Speaker 3>here on the West Coast. So once you guys, drain

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<v Speaker 3>your noodles. I'm gonna give you a little instruction. It's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty simple poor man's meal, So you let your noodles drain.

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<v Speaker 3>So once I was working with Richie Rich up in

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<v Speaker 3>this studio in Hollywood, and I'm like, Richie Rich, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thankful that you're getting me in the studio, but

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<v Speaker 3>you just don't you you can't do anything.

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<v Speaker 4>So what do you mean you can't do anything?

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<v Speaker 2>You can't get me where I need to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we're just like in these beautiful studios, but you're

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<v Speaker 3>not connected.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but you're talented, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So he did know a couple of.

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<v Speaker 3>People, and he was in the good areas, but he

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<v Speaker 3>just wasn't persistent. So one day we're at the studio.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the type that right on the spot, I laid

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<v Speaker 3>my lyrics in one hour, we have a whole song,

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<v Speaker 3>lives everything. So he's in there mixing and I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>looking at his phone. For some reason, I grabbed his phone.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, huh, Easy Now, I always told my

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<v Speaker 3>grandmother I'm gonna get with Ruthless Records. That's the label

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<v Speaker 3>for me. Like I'm gonna get with them. And I'm like, Grandma,

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<v Speaker 3>I promise you.

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<v Speaker 1>She lived closer to Compton and where you guys all

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<v Speaker 1>the same age group.

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<v Speaker 3>No Easy was much older. But I mean everybody only

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<v Speaker 3>thought he was like a teenager.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he looked so young.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked so.

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<v Speaker 3>Young, but he was like, yeah, like they're probably sixty.

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<v Speaker 3>He would have been sixty, so.

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<v Speaker 1>He would have been like thirty back then, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like yeah back then. He was like, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>you see this number in his phone?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>So instantly I see the phone number and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>easy E. I'm like, I take the number down.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, I get home smart, I blow the number up.

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<v Speaker 3>It actually was his assistant shouts out to miss Sharlie

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<v Speaker 3>Henry because she saved all all the messages, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I done left fifteen messages and I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I'm whack because I never.

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<v Speaker 2>Heard from EASYE.

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<v Speaker 3>So come to find out it was his assistant, Sharie

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<v Speaker 3>Henry's phone number, and she said she was like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 3>this girl's so dope.

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<v Speaker 2>She's dope.

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<v Speaker 3>But she saved the voicemails. And then there was one

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<v Speaker 3>message the day that we buried my grandmother because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I always told my grandma was gonna make it, and

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, and I just really want to make

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<v Speaker 3>it for grandma because she lived on one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty ath in Sam Pedro that was the closest to

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<v Speaker 3>Compton that if the family lived too so.

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<v Speaker 2>As to say, don't worry Grandma, I'm a meat.

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<v Speaker 3>Easy So anyway, I left several messages so I wake

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<v Speaker 3>up for my grandmother funeral. I got that number before

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<v Speaker 3>I left. Instead of me doing the lyrical miracle trying

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<v Speaker 3>to show my skills, I went off, fuck you nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>you ain't shit. I'm a gangst the bitch and you

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<v Speaker 3>the type of nigga I ain't fucking with. We were

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<v Speaker 3>our I just don't. That was the message that got

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<v Speaker 3>me a record deal with Easy E. So Charlie was like,

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<v Speaker 3>y'all you gotta hear this. Yeah, she's dope.

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<v Speaker 1>So you you you did a disrap on his voicemail

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what caught his attention.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was trying to do all this miracle work.

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<v Speaker 4>You were trying to be nice and you were like,

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<v Speaker 4>we gonna really go.

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<v Speaker 3>To that beautiful service for my grandmother. I get home

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<v Speaker 3>from the funeral, I checked my voicemails. I'll never forget yo.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Eric. Yeah you know Rhythm D. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>said rhythm to come get you text Rhythm D.

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<v Speaker 2>Your address, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, grandma, I know you went to heaven. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you Guardian and your grandma. I'm gonna make it

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<v Speaker 3>and we're still gonna live right here.

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<v Speaker 4>How old are you at this time?

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<v Speaker 2>At this time, I was seventeen, you were only seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, okay, I'm forty eight now, okay, okay, so you

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<v Speaker 1>are seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>Easy returns your car. You're in nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I finished.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like summer, I'm going to junior college.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you tell your mama, she says, she like child like.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl who is easy, because you know we were West

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<v Speaker 3>l A.

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<v Speaker 2>You better not be going to competent.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, mama, he live in Norwalk. They're about to

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<v Speaker 3>come get me. So I was at home. We lived

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<v Speaker 3>off one hundred and tenth in Western So I was

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<v Speaker 3>at home and I was so excited. So once you

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<v Speaker 3>drain your noodles, guys, you're gonna put them back cause

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<v Speaker 3>you know craft you don't need to rinse them. You're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna rinse off some flavor. So you put your noodles

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<v Speaker 3>right back in there. Guys, you add your butter, your

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<v Speaker 3>milk before you do the tune okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So after easy E picks you up or he sends

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<v Speaker 1>for the rhymese and what's the first interaction with easy

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<v Speaker 1>what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness. So I walked in and I'm nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I've never been the shy type. So he's

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there and I'm just like, oh my god, it's

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<v Speaker 3>really easy E. And then what I like, okay? So

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<v Speaker 3>then boom when I see him, I'm just like he like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>what's up. I'm like shit, He said, yeah, you want

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<v Speaker 3>to be with Ruthless? I said hell yeah. I said yo, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>why do you think I've been? I said, you're calling

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<v Speaker 3>me back? He was like, yeah, so you you kicking

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<v Speaker 3>that gangster ship? I said I sure am. So he

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<v Speaker 3>was like, let me hear you rap. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like off the top of the head, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>more melodic. I never wanted to be the dopest and

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<v Speaker 3>the best, so I just kicked the freestyle. He was

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<v Speaker 3>like when you signing, and I was like, we're that bread.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he say anything? Did he talk smack about your

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<v Speaker 1>disc tand no?

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<v Speaker 3>He said he liked it. He was like, that took

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<v Speaker 3>some guts, that took balls. So I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 3>he was forming.

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<v Speaker 2>A four girl group.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, had your buddy, let it MIXU.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I put the right amount of butter,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can use all that.

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<v Speaker 4>Butter if you. I'm a butter person, me too, I

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<v Speaker 4>can girl.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I was poor off using more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually didn't know the difference between butter and fake

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<v Speaker 1>butter until Eating Wall broke. I think now Evans on

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<v Speaker 1>the show was the one that taught.

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<v Speaker 3>Me it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is nothing like the butter.

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<v Speaker 3>So you add your butter and your your little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of milk, you know what I mean. You add that

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<v Speaker 3>all in there, and of course you put that sliced cheese.

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<v Speaker 4>Do I give it t you right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you add the sliced cheese while your noodles are hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So I was just related again.

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<v Speaker 1>So he tells you, okay, you're gonna sign. What happens next?

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<v Speaker 3>So then he explained to me that he was hand

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<v Speaker 3>picking a four girl female group. He wanted us to

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<v Speaker 3>be like the female in Wa. So I went out.

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<v Speaker 3>I auditioned. He said, hey, you got the part. He

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<v Speaker 3>had another female shots out to t Ski. She ended

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<v Speaker 3>up moving up to Atlanta. So t Ski was an

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<v Speaker 3>original member, which she knew him before, and then another Homegirl.

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<v Speaker 3>We were all like raised in La, so we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of knew each other. Big Chan, which later went on

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<v Speaker 3>to be in the Doggies Angels, she was in our group.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the Homegirl Diamond that corrupt always referenced down

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<v Speaker 3>with a Nigga demnil, but before I was rhyming, the

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<v Speaker 3>Homegirl Diamond ended up getting in our group. So we

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<v Speaker 3>were like a female in wa.

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<v Speaker 1>Now are you guys, you guys start the recording process.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your pockets looking like during this journey?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's looking great, like everyone is like easy. The

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<v Speaker 3>moment he signed us, he broke bread.

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<v Speaker 4>How much bread did he break?

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<v Speaker 2>You?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 3>What was that nineteen ninety three, cause it took a little,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, year two the Marinate. I want to say,

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<v Speaker 3>right before like ninety four we signed, but before we signed,

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<v Speaker 3>we would get per dims, so like we would get

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred dollars a day just to go record the album,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we'd get our eating expenses. And then when

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<v Speaker 3>we signed, I want to say each Okay, it was

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<v Speaker 3>four girls in the group you talking about. By now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm nineteen twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 2>So each girl got thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>And back then that was a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Right because it was four of us, So I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think each twenty k each.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's still back then, that's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially to a nineteen year old. So but

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<v Speaker 1>now if we bring you back to this, this you

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<v Speaker 1>said at nineteen, this is when you were cooking it.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me what's going on. How did you end

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<v Speaker 1>up on Tuna Mac?

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<v Speaker 3>I ended up on Tuna Mac because I mean the

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<v Speaker 3>music game is good. But so basically, maybe I was

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one when I made the tuna mac, okay, because

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I had a good teenage year. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>start eating tuna mac. I had to be about twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one because Easy was.

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<v Speaker 4>Dead, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I started going a little bit. Thought I was grown.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to go back home like my mom,

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<v Speaker 3>like I told you that, yeah, yusic stuff. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was really being on my own. And what happened is

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<v Speaker 3>like we had a great deal, Easy E. We were traveling,

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<v Speaker 3>we recorded with Bone Thugs in.

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<v Speaker 4>Harmony, and you're not living with your mom at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>Where are you living? Are you on your Yeah? Are

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<v Speaker 4>you roommating with the four girls.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we were I had my own little single, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in a little single in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 4>And oh you didn't end up staying in Compton, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Because my grandma passed away.

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<v Speaker 3>I never lived in Compton in my life, and she

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<v Speaker 3>lived actually in South Central, but it was the closest

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<v Speaker 3>place to Compton that I can know.

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<v Speaker 4>But you said you moved to Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I moved to Hobhood. I was raised on the

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<v Speaker 3>west side of Alwall.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you choose Hollywood because you were blowing up and

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to feel Hollywood?

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<v Speaker 3>Because, like I said, it was a choice be a

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<v Speaker 3>gang banger or be an entertainer, So most people lived

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<v Speaker 3>near Hollywood. I lived in a rinky denk roach infested

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<v Speaker 3>single apartment, okay, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was like.

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<v Speaker 3>At the age of nineteen and so then when I

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<v Speaker 3>met Eaze, I still lived in my rinky deank apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>So by the time this I met him in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety two, that was like a transition to him no

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<v Speaker 3>longer being with Nwa, which was a very trying time

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<v Speaker 3>for Eric. It was easy, was like really, but did

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<v Speaker 3>you know it was a lot of emotional things back then,

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<v Speaker 3>so being that we were just producing this album and

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<v Speaker 3>he appeared on a lot of our records and everything. However,

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<v Speaker 3>the album never came out because he passed away.

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<v Speaker 4>So what did they end up doing with the record?

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<v Speaker 4>They just ended up holding a hostage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a big story behind Ruthless Records. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why the success of such a hard work company.

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<v Speaker 2>You like it.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't even hear about Ruthless Records. Yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like fifty of years of hip hop? Where's easy East Star?

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<v Speaker 3>Where's his tribute?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Put the West Coast on the map. Not only did

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<v Speaker 3>he just put Compton on the map, but here's our

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<v Speaker 3>dish whila.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, we are back okay. And I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how excited I am to be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the more you tell your story, I'm more hypes.

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<v Speaker 1>But you did service up this tuna, Mac And I've

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<v Speaker 1>had this before, but I've never had it done like this,

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<v Speaker 1>And you are inspiring me just based on looks and

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<v Speaker 1>smell right that this is the correct way.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's the single cheese that make it more cheese.

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<v Speaker 4>But let's try it for our listening again. And you

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<v Speaker 4>had it salt and pepper too, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just a little bit. I'm gonna start eating this.

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<v Speaker 4>Ag ain't gonnat this.

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<v Speaker 2>There, it's awesome. I can't. I can't just toot my

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<v Speaker 2>own horn. Trying to figure out if.

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<v Speaker 4>Or the Cheddar slices that are bringing out the flavors

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<v Speaker 4>so well.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking it's the slices because I put I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>a salty person because it'll ruin a meal.

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<v Speaker 1>But yo, this is the only way to eat Raft

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.880
<v Speaker 1>mac and cheese for the rest of your life, y'all.

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:06.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you.

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And the secret ingredient for this dish is definitely the

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Craft cheese and that's nothing, but.

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it adds valume because you get your pack of

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:18.280
<v Speaker 3>cheese on sale and it goes a long way when

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.159
<v Speaker 3>you were single living in a single.

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>And people have used Belvida cheese on the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just have to say, Belvita cheese has so much

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 1>salt in it. If you're not used to eating bad

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>quality food, switch to Kraft Mac slices.

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was brilliant.

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now back to the story. Okay, now we know

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.160
<v Speaker 1>we and always say this on the show. The broker

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the dish, the better, the story. This has proven my

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:49.240
<v Speaker 1>theory again. So we're now that we you know, you've

0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>been signed, walk us closer to easy eas passing what's

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 1>going on during that time?

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:58.399
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so life instantly changed once we received that money.

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:00.639
<v Speaker 3>I took that twenty thousand our went and bought me

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:04.400
<v Speaker 3>a new Ford Festiva, no card, no paid my rent

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 3>up for a year. We're matt, we're jamming, we're recording

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 3>Bone Thugs and Harmony come out here. So females, we

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 3>were a little caddy. We would argue we couldn't get

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:19.160
<v Speaker 3>along and just the girl thing. So Bone Thug came.

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 3>They were starving. They was from Cleveland, so they were ready.

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 3>So we got pushed back because Bone Thugs definitely came

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:27.919
<v Speaker 3>out here and got busy.

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>And at the time, girl rappers, you know, it had

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 1>to been still kind of new so versus like male

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 1>rappers were I'm assuming we're more acceptable.

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like we were literally like a first four

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 3>girl group.

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 4>And you guys were doing gangster rappers.

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because we did have Salt and Pepper Spinderella. You know,

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 3>we admired quein Latifa live.

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 4>But you guys are doing gangster You're doing a little

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 4>different we.

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.399
<v Speaker 3>Were doing straight hardcore, like we had a song called

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 3>coming Out the Woodworks and like we had shoot them

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:01.679
<v Speaker 3>on a Sunday, like we had at like faul Deep.

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:03.399
<v Speaker 4>Is there a way to look up this record?

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they're on YouTube.

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:08.120
<v Speaker 1>They're on YouTube, and can people download it on like Spotify.

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Or any day.

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.479
<v Speaker 3>We really didn't do a release because it was so

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 3>old when we received it. It was like on Ada's

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 3>and Big real tracks. H oh goodness. It was yeah

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 3>back in the early nineties.

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 4>So where are you at when you get the call

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 4>about Easy?

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Who where was I at when Easy?

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 4>Or when you found what was going on when you

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 4>found out?

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Like did you hear rumors first or did you hear

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>directly from Okay?

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 3>So the thing is boom? So we're we're working on

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 3>our album Bones is out here. We were doing records

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 3>with Bone Thugs. We're opening up Easy got us in Oakland.

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 3>We're doing all the San Francisco, Oakland, all these West

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Coast shows. But we're traveling, so Easy went to New York.

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.200
<v Speaker 3>I was the only group member that ended up pregnant

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 3>with my only child. I have one son, twenty nine

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 3>years old. How old were you I was twenty two

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:02.680
<v Speaker 3>when I got pregnant.

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, oh wow, So were you scared to tell him?

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 3>And actually he's my son's godfather and he was really

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 3>supportive because he had a gang of kids. But my

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 3>group members, on the other hand, they were like, you're

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 3>gonna mess up our career. Why are you doing this?

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 3>You're pregnant, and I'm like, me and my baby daddy.

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 3>We rolled like Bonnie and Clyde, and I'm keeping my

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 3>baby like the first and only time that I got pregnant.

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 3>So I'm very glad that I kept my child. Yeah,

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 3>so easy embraced it. I got so many great memories.

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 3>He embraced it. He was like, that's my godson because.

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 2>It was a big old deal.

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 3>The girls wasn't talking to me, and he was still alive. Yeah,

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 3>he was still alive.

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 3>I got so many great moments of how he just

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 3>embraced me and my child had my baby daddy that

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 3>I didn't end up staying with. But so Eric was

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 3>in New York and we were like, you know, he'd

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 3>answer every call.

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>We always talked to he. He loved our group.

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Our group was his female in wa so there was

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 3>no question or doubt that we weren't on He's in

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 3>New York. When we spoke to Eric, he was real excited,

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 3>like he ran into Cube.

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 2>So we were in hopes that like, oh, my god, Ren.

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 3>Is still here, yell us here. If he gets with Cube,

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, Drake gonna come back.

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 4>And Cube was a beast back then. So we're like,

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:32.880
<v Speaker 4>so was really popping at that time?

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cause Cube had already dropped his up.

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, so we're talking ninety four now, maybe

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 3>it was ninety five because my son was already born,

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 3>so right, yeah, it was after the birth of my son.

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 3>My son was born in November, so I was basically

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 3>pregnant like the whole nine months when Bone Thugs came.

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't one of the group members that was with

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 3>Bone Thugs and Harvey. I was very pregnant with my

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 3>baby father. That had nothing to do with the industry.

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 3>He was not an industry cat. So we get the call,

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah, I feel good. I do have a

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 3>little cold, but I'll be back in two days. Like

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 3>he's like, I ran in the ice Cube. When we

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 3>get him on y'all record GBMS pumped up, We're like.

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh, but at the time he said he had a cold. Yeah,

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>so it's something he started to realize something.

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 3>He's always had bronchias, Like we would go to Jerry's Deli.

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Eric Easye would never eat dairy foods. He would never

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 3>do milkshakes. He would never So we always knew, but

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't to where.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 2>But he was like, oh.

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Within the second day of him being in New York,

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 3>he like, oh, it's the weather change, cause you know.

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I just wore my car, but it's snowing.

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>And so we were thinking, like, Okay, he just caught

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 3>a cold because of the change of weather. So then

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 3>when he get back home and I'm like, what was

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 3>I doing? And I was probably because I moved out

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 3>once I had my son, I had my money, I

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 3>was with Ruthless. Back then, the city of Rialto was

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 3>really nice. It wasn't a lot of people. So I

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 3>moved out to Rialto and I remember I'm with my

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 3>son and I'm like, I'm about to cook dinner. And

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 3>one of the girls in the group was like, easy

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 3>is in the hospital. Matter of fact, let me go back,

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 3>let me keep it solid, let me tell the truth,

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 3>because when you're cut up in stories just so much.

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 3>So we had a friend, Hershanna, that worked at the hospital.

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 3>That's how we initially found out. She worked at Cedar

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Sinai and she was like, oh my god, y'all, guess

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 3>who in here?

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Easy?

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>But he under a alias, So we found out. We

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 3>started calling Big Ron, all the security, the Samoe and Twins.

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 3>We're calling these guys, like, what's up, what's up with there?

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 3>They like, Oh, he'll be okay, he'll be okay. We

0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 3>rushed to the hospital because then the new start announcing,

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 3>like we rushed up to the hospital.

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>They were already saying like, he has full blown.

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 3>AIDS and I'm like, never heard of it, never heard

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 3>of it, don't know what that is.

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 4>So oh at the time, nobody really knew what it was.

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Nobody knew what it was because we didn't know it

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 3>was AIDS when we got there. It was pneumonia okay,

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, so it ended up being full blown AIDS.

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>That we were like, how did that happen?

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like we never saw anybody deteriorate. So all the

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 3>artists was there, menaja twy it was one eighty seven.

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Above the law. It was bone.

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Thug gbm hwa. I mean, like all the artists, so

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 3>We're at the hospital. They're letting, like, group by group

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 3>go in and we walk in the room.

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, oh, I don't even want to I.

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Walked out because Eric was as black as this. Wow,

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 3>he was so dark and it looked like he was

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 3>like how you just be dead for three days?

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 2>But he was in a komba. He was just out

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, wow, slimmer or did he look from

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the exterior outside of his skin color he.

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Didn't look then, or he looked blacker than he's like,

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 3>he was not that color.

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 2>He looked terrible.

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 4>But they said for sure he had full blown as well.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 3>They were like, yeah, it was pneumonia, Da da da da.

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 3>The first day it wasn't. Then I think, okay, So

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 3>we visited him and I'm like.

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Why is he so dark? Why is he in a coma?

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Like isn't this a transsexually transmitted disease?

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Like what's going on?

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, okay, this is not pneumonia. Like I

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 3>have a cousin living with HIV and he was. He

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 3>was detected as having HIV at nineteen and he's like

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 3>fifty three.

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Magic Johnson.

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's so many references before blown, so instantly

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 3>it was like we went to visit Eric. He didn't

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 3>look good and we never saw him again.

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>But now, somewhere along this story and correct me if

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong. Before Easy's passing, do you end up working

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>with Tupac?

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 4>Can you? Can you talk about that?

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well what happened.

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I met Tupac way before I even had a record

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 3>deal with Easy, because, like I said, rap was my

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 3>passion and I knew that I could freestyle, and it

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 3>was like, I gotta, I gotta do this. But it

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 3>was funny because when I met Pac, he didn't know

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 3>that I knew.

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 2>How to rap.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 4>Tell me about that encounter.

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 3>We went to a club downtown used to be oh Ship,

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>the Jamaican Club. They called it the Jamaican Club, so

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 3>it would it would crack downtown. So I never really

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 3>liked the rappers or I never had a bewild.

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>But I never was like that.

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know, I really wasn't into like

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 3>I won't be a man that rapped because I rapped.

0:32:54.040 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, but you said that like you you had, maybe.

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 3>We could touch it a basis because I'm really really

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 3>honest with this, So I meet Tupac and his boy Mouseman.

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 3>So I met him at the club and everything, and

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, we was just partying in the club and

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 3>vibing and just dancing, smoking weed. So Mouseman and his

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 3>brother mokaream. They used to call them Mouseman and the Wicked,

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 3>but it was Mopream And this was before like, was

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 3>it Brenda's Got a Baby?

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was during that time.

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 3>It was during before he shot the video for Brenda's

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Got a Baby. So I ended up like a Mouseman.

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 3>His name is Dana and.

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 4>He I think his name was Dana.

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Dana, but we called a Mouseman. Really talented, and

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 3>so he knew I rapped, but I was always like,

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't want pop to know because I was like,

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I gotta get a little tighter.

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I gotta okay, okay.

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 4>So I can't respect that because you didn't want him.

0:33:59.960 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 3>To Yeah, yeah, because I was like, I gotta get tighter.

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 3>So we kept that under the radar. But I had

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 3>a crush on Mouseman, and I'm like, yeah, you like

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Tupac hyke dude, so I'll like you. I'm not trying

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 3>to get with Pac. I want to work with Pac,

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 3>like with Eazye I was pregnant. He was really like

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 3>I say, Eric is my god brother because I met

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 3>him through God the day I buried my grandmother. It

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 3>was just all just real, real, spiritual for me. So

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 3>I met Mouseman, and me and mouse Man would talk

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 3>on the phone, me and my homegirl Diamond. So once

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 3>I met Mouseman, I always knew how to cook good.

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 3>So matter of fact, wait, I don't want to get cold,

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 3>but I knew how to cook good. So they would

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 3>always stay at the Mandrion and all these places because

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Pac had just dropped Brenda's got a baby, and he

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 3>was working with a tron and like we was just

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 3>regular like homegirls. And then I lived in La so

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 3>I knew where to get all the good weed, you know. Then,

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 3>So this is really when my nineteen year old days

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 3>these is like fresh out of high school, eighteen nineteen rolling.

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 3>But by the time I was nineteen, I met Easye.

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:15.959
<v Speaker 3>So the personal friendships I wasn't.

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I was focused on.

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Being an artist with a record deal. But when I

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 3>met Mouseman, and I'm like, I remember he wrote me

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 3>my first little rap that I ever let any guy write,

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.359
<v Speaker 3>because I wasn't. But I'm like, man, I know I'm

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna get next to Tupac. What is y'all style? Because

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 3>he was from Philly, I believe, But he was from

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 3>the East.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 4>Coast, Oh, I thought, for I thought Tupac was from

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 4>No Mouse Mousemaid.

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 3>He was from the East Coast, no doubt. And that's

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 3>where he met I believe, Baltimore.

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 4>But did you end up working with Tupac later on

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 4>down the line?

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:52.280
<v Speaker 3>So I met him then he never really knew I rapped.

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I would take them weed because I lived in La

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 3>So I was just like the homegirl girl and me

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 3>and Diamond would go and I would cook at home

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 3>and just bring them enchiladas in tuna castle ROAs the

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:05.399
<v Speaker 3>right way and you know.

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 2>So you would just like to cook.

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So then speed me up to where you guys

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.280
<v Speaker 1>actually end up getting to work together.

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, Eric really wanted to sign Tupac too.

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 3>He was like, I'm gonna get Poc. But then Pac

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 3>went to death Row. So I wouldn't say that it

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 3>was beef, but I mean we was with Ruthless Records.

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Even though I knew snoop and corrupting everybody. I wasn't

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 3>gonna hang with death Row because I'm.

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 4>With Ruthless course, so it was just.

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Like okay, so he never you know, made that connection

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 3>with POC. So then after Pop died, after Easy died,

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 3>another good our good friend Shari. She's like a mentor,

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Shari Henry, which worked with Pac a lot, and Pac

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 3>knew about us, he knew about GBM, everybody knew about

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Gangst the Bitch mentality first Girl Gangst the group on

0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 3>the West Coast. So Shari was also like a manager,

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.760
<v Speaker 3>and you know, she worked with a lot of different artists,

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 3>so she's like yo. You know, Pak was asking like

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 3>what's up with Silk. I'm like, oh, yeah, they're in GBL.

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 3>So he was like, have her come down to the studio.

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 3>So me and my group went to the studio and

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 3>we met Pop and we did a song which was

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 3>released last Motherfucker's Breathing, But when Tupac died, we got

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 3>taken off the record, so I have yeah, the original

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 3>is on YouTube, so all my references are facts.

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I'm be like, look get up baby, but

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, it's like I have so many emotional moments

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>with this industry because I went through eating and then

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm broke. I'm gonna bring this closer to you, and

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>then I'm eating and then I'm hungry again.

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm Then I was eating.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 3>And then I was hungry again. So my story is

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 3>more like up down, weighing, you know, learning my spirituality,

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 3>knowing that I am a woman of God. And I

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 3>did intimidate a lot of people. Because when you're out

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 3>to rip somebody off or you're out to use somebody,

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:16.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, God fearing people are gonna stand the storm.

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 3>We are gonna survive. So I think we're so motivating

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 3>and inspirational For me today at forty eight years old,

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 3>I still chair tears up the microphone. I still will

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 3>rap at the spur of a moment, heartbeat, and my

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:33.280
<v Speaker 3>vocals are still strong.

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 2>So I heard you.

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you saw me.

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>But first of all, there's a huge jay Z painting

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 1>in my lobby.

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know. I brag about it all the time.

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to speak jay Z into existence.

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, come on to the show, Jay.

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>But when you wrapped I lit up like a little

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>kid on Christmas. I was like, oh snap, so and

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like three lines yeah.

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>So then went up.

0:38:56.000 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 3>We did still you know, still Breathing, which is called

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 3>Last Motherfucker's Breathing season. The season and the means be

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 3>my reason I be the last Motherfucker's breathing. So the

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 3>session went like this.

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 2>We walked in.

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 3>He was like, get on the mic. Whoever ain't got

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 3>their part, We're going like this. That's one thing I

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 3>learned from POC. Be persistent, do not overstudy, overthink your lyrics, or.

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 2>You won't be on this record.

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 3>It was like, so it was Kadafi, it was all

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 3>of the Outlaws and my four girls, So you put

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 3>nine rappers on the record with Tupac. It was like,

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 3>so soon as he did his part, I ran in there,

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I ran to the mic. My group members were still writing.

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 3>They came at the end of the song. They started

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 3>bumping some people off. And then when the final initial

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 3>record came out, like half the Outlaws and half of well,

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Kadafi I believe had got murdered too. So it was

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 3>like half of them came off the record and half

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 3>of us came off the record.

0:39:58.480 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Did you end up staying on the.

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 3>Newe None of the GBM members were on that, but

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 3>we have the original, yes, well, which means so much

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 3>more to me.

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 3>So then boom we lose eze Bam. I'm like, I

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 3>don't want to rap no more. I'm like, uh so

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 3>then Tupac he used to he was like silk you dope.

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 2>He worked with Storm and he worked with me.

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 3>So after Eazy E died or deal folded, Ruthless Records

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 3>didn't do right by Eric at all. I don't know

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 3>what happened to Ruthless Records, but it shouldn't have folded.

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 3>You had the first girl gangster group coming out, which

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 3>we were known. One of the members shout out to

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 3>Ice Girl, Diamond Diamond. Ice Girl used to go with

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Tretch like. We used to really hang out and we were.

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 4>Did you see the NWA movie?

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes? I did I movie. Yes.

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that when you watch that movie you

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:57.400
<v Speaker 1>get a little backstorand why Ruthless crumbles?

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't get anything out of why Ruthless crumbled

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 3>because Ruthless was booming. See I was with Ruthless Records,

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 3>and I can recall when Eric and Jerry Heller didn't

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.760
<v Speaker 3>see either eye. Eric would not come to the office.

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 3>If Jerry Heller was in the office, we would meet

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 3>him at Jerry's Delhi. We would meet him at the galleria,

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 3>the mall right there, like he would not come in

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 3>the office, So I can recall that being weird. It

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.919
<v Speaker 3>was like we'd go there to get our checks. Mike

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Klein would be there, all these different people, Gary Ballan,

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, and it was like family. We were like

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 3>a real Ruthless family. But when Easy and Jerry fell out,

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 3>that's when things were different. But it was still ruthless.

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 3>It was like he was excited. He had HWA, he

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 3>had will i Am, which was in the act band Clan,

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 3>So will i Am was with Ruthless.

0:41:57.840 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 2>That was my label mate.

0:41:59.360 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 3>We had great. We had a roster that was just untouchable.

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>So now I'm just for time. I'm gonna skip you

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>up to twoenty and twenty three. Yeah, we're in the

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 1>arena of We got the Nicki Minajas, we have the

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Cardi B's, yeah, obviously before them, the Little Kid Brown,

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>all these guys.

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 4>What's your opinion on today's rap music with the women?

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I love like today?

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 3>When I watched Lola Brooks new little video Gotta Get

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 3>You Home, she remade the Foxy Brown and I was

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 3>looking at her like, this is what I brought on

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 3>my solo project when I did my solo stuff, because

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm on the host of records. Like, but I think,

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 3>like the females are winning. I love them. I love Nikki,

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:51.320
<v Speaker 3>I love Cardi, I love Lola Brooks, I love Megan A. Stallion,

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 3>I love Doja cat Like.

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm to be honest.

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>The only person I'm not really feeling it, and it

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>could be just because I haven't given her a time

0:42:58.280 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 1>of day is Sexy Red.

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not feeling that message.

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm not feeling that raunchiness something because like when we

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 3>were going to be a gangster girl group, it was

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 3>clearly early nineties, it was in It was really creative

0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 3>at that time. But to me, there's too much promoting

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 3>these little girls to be strippers when they grow up.

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, our music had substance, our music had a message.

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 3>In the nineties, you were going to get a message

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:34.879
<v Speaker 3>out of something, and today music is like a lot

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 3>of the female artists is not being great role models

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 3>for our little girls who love to look up to rappers.

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I agree.

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I think Nicki and Cardi I give them a past

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of their actual albums are really good

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 1>and inspiring and they both fall.

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't put Cardy or Nikki in that category because

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 3>they were always class. They were like a branch off

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 3>of Little Kim, Foxy Bro. You know, it was always class.

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 1>But I do wish that the women rappers would move

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.840
<v Speaker 1>away from selling sex because I feel like now we

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:12.479
<v Speaker 1>as women, we're almost we're now it's becoming. It's sad

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>to say, but men are now the prize and women

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>because we keep degrading ourselves to just sex, now we

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:20.720
<v Speaker 1>are no longer the prize.

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 2>No more so. It's so risky.

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 3>That's why a lot of time I just say, I

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 3>can't speak on the world, but on the West Coast,

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 3>it's so hard for people to push women out here

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 3>unless you're from somewhere else and you just moved and

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 3>came to California.

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:37.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's an.

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Ego thing, what's going on with these men, because we

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 3>been our own Oprah Winfrey's, we been the sloop dogs,

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 3>we've been the you know, so many talented things, and

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 3>it's like they just don't want to give you that

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 3>extra push. And it can be happening in a lot

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 3>of different states as well, because when you get into

0:44:56.200 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 3>the egos of a man, and then like, I don't

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 3>have BBLS. I'm not knocking nobody. But when you're natural

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 3>and you're real, and you're confident and you didn't have

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 3>to go get your stomach cut off because it didn't

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 3>make you talented or it didn't give you the gift

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 3>to So if they know that you're a strong person

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 3>and you're not weak and you're not gonna do drugs

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 3>because they want you to be weak minded, or you're

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 3>not gonna sleep with them. And so we missed out

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 3>on that era because they start flooding it with the

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.839
<v Speaker 3>be a hoe, take his money, shake it. And I'm

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 3>not knocking the strippers shots out.

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm not knocking the strippers.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.479
<v Speaker 1>But when I see someone like and I really hate

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>to use her as an example, but I'm going to

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>based on very little that I know about her. So

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 1>this is coming from more of an ignorant perspective. But

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:46.720
<v Speaker 1>when I see like a sexy Red, I start to think, Okay,

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>is this now just the industry, the people behind whoever's

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>running the record labels just packaging black girls to look

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>completely like just strippers, like that's all we're worth or

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I'm disappointed because I feel like, you know,

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 1>right now, there's rumors, you know, we are coming up

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>on the fiftieth anniversary, but there are rumors that rap

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 1>sales are declining. Yeah, and I'm starting to think that

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the reason why rap sales are client are reclining is because,

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 1>and I want to hear your opinion, is because the

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>music industry said, okay, rap women are doing good, let's

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:22.359
<v Speaker 1>make little rap prototypes that sell this particular image. And

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.319
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, And so now I'm like, and is

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:28.280
<v Speaker 1>that why you think the rap sales are starting to decline,

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.760
<v Speaker 1>because like the authenticity des dropping.

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.760
<v Speaker 3>And then that's what it is. It's like, don't sell

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 3>your soul, Like, don't let a label say here go uh,

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 3>here go half a meal and we're gonna do this this,

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 3>And you talk about all that because everybody is a

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 3>role model, whether you're in the hood, being at the

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 3>bus stop, going to work every day, Like we all

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.359
<v Speaker 3>are role models to some children out there, and we're

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 3>losing it. And then, especially because I live here in

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles, it's like I don't watch the news anymore.

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 3>It's just just upsetting it because they only glamorize the

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 3>shootings are then they don't glamorize enough of the shootings

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:15.760
<v Speaker 3>because if you have like citizens app or you watch

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:19.919
<v Speaker 3>a million hits out here on the YouTube and on Instagram,

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 3>there's like five shootings a day. We don't know about

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 3>it because they don't come to our community unless hits

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:30.359
<v Speaker 3>somebody that just you know, hurt each other. We need

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:34.399
<v Speaker 3>to be more aware of what's going on in our communities.

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 3>And then music is a big influence. And I'm not like,

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't care what you talk about, what you rap about,

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 3>but just know that it's overrated right now. We used

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 3>to have rated or talk about the police, but this

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 3>is set.

0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think one of the things you touched on

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 4>was like selling your soul.

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like almost all the interviews that I've done

0:47:56.280 --> 0:48:01.760
<v Speaker 1>with recording artists their first album specific really kind.

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Of was like, Yo, that isn't me.

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember Neil telling me that's not me my first record,

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I gotta walk and Neil Neil had the courage to

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>just be like I ain't doing it and riskying blackballed

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years, I was, but God, but God,

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, had his back because he still came out shining.

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 4>But that was a risk, risky move on him.

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>But when you see some of these new rappers, I'm like, Okay,

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 1>this label just put this out. This label's packaging this

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>girl like this and it.

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 3>It's so what happened with me after Easy I was

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 3>eating he died? I was hungry, broke again being Tupac.

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:41.320
<v Speaker 3>So I connected Tupac and Busy Bone because Easy E

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 3>had died. So I get in touch with pop again

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, yo, because you gotta do a song

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 3>with Busy Bone. He's like, oh yeah, that's the thug niggas.

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 3>We was gonna hook up and do that, but you

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 3>gotta be on the record. So I'm like, okay, you

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 3>hear that. I said, Bee, Tupac gonna come. He gotta

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 3>go do a Vasia She runway model show. He's flying out.

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 3>He said, he gonna come before you go to the airport,

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:26.360
<v Speaker 3>so you get ready. So it wasn't the Bone thugs

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.800
<v Speaker 3>in harmony. It was Tupac, Busy Bone. Me and Tupac

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 3>walked in dressed in all white, looking like whoo macavella.

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 2>So he came in. He laid his part.

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I'll probably be punished for whoor living blind to the

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.319
<v Speaker 3>fact that Thugs is convicts in God's prison and am

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:47.840
<v Speaker 3>strip praying so Foca please forgive me. So I was

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:52.279
<v Speaker 3>on the original Thug Love, which that one was released

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 3>and it's out on all the platforms.

0:49:55.800 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Now, is there something that most people don't know about? Like,

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>is there a fun fact that I can I can

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 1>get from this?

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, two fun facts for the new generation and for

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:12.360
<v Speaker 3>those that don't go to Google and look up wikipedias

0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:15.720
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. A lot of people don't know my name

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:19.280
<v Speaker 3>is Lamar, Like I've never met a lady named Lamar,

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 3>So I think that's kind of unique. And then a

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.320
<v Speaker 3>lot of people because I don't just say hey, I'm Lamar,

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.919
<v Speaker 3>but I get those writer credits and I'm like, yes,

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 3>I miss Lamar. But a lot of people don't know

0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:35.320
<v Speaker 3>that Omari, Well, his name is Omari, but you guys

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 3>call him omar on Like a lot of people don't

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 3>know that's my nephew omphew. Now everybody call me on tea.

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 3>I am the West Coast favorite auntie. But bio logically,

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of people don't know.

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever has omarion and you ever talked about collaborating?

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 3>We were like this close to collaborating. I want to

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:01.879
<v Speaker 3>say about five years ago, because you know I made

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:02.800
<v Speaker 3>it before my nephew.

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:03.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of course.

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:06.919
<v Speaker 3>And I remember, you know, my sister I was iront

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:10.279
<v Speaker 3>at thirteen. She had him when she was fifteen. So

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 3>like when I made it, I could recall I have

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:16.399
<v Speaker 3>some touch and stuff too, because when I made it,

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 3>I could recall getting my sister on payroll because she

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 3>was doing the hairstyling.

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 2>She was working the video straps. She can do braids.

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 3>My sister was a bad She did my little hair

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.239
<v Speaker 3>pieces like she can weave, she can braid. So you

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:35.240
<v Speaker 3>know me, I'm little sis. My sister has four kids.

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Da da da da da.

0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yo, I'm gonna get you on payroll.

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 2>You need to be a stylust. So I did that

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:42.240
<v Speaker 2>for my sister.

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 3>And then this was with my first solo record deal

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:50.239
<v Speaker 3>where I wrote the hit record Romeo and Juliet. So

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:53.719
<v Speaker 3>it was my first album under RCA Records, which was

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 3>entitled Raw Silk. And then the funny thing about this

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:01.879
<v Speaker 3>album is that I never signed a contract.

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 4>So what does that mean.

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I never signed a contract all of it.

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 3>So what happened is I got with Michael CONCEPTIONI on,

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.839
<v Speaker 3>Hey Mike, so, yeah, you know, I'm young. I didn't

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 3>want to rap anymore. I'm like, fuck that Easy is dead.

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Tupac is dead. They believed in me. They didn't try

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:23.400
<v Speaker 3>to sexual harass me. It was like my brother said,

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:26.919
<v Speaker 3>by God. So I was really discouraged. So I went

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 3>in as a writer for this Grand Jury Entertainment, which

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 3>was a well known man in a wheelchair, Michael conception On.

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, I don't want to be an artist,

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 3>but I'm a hell of a writer. So they gave

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:45.320
<v Speaker 3>me the track and some girl Ain't Misbehave was rapping

0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:48.840
<v Speaker 3>on it. But RCA wasn't buying the record. They were like,

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 3>oh god, it's really corny. So the hook was already there,

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:56.239
<v Speaker 3>shouts out to McKinley, av that was black chill. So

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.720
<v Speaker 3>I get the track and it's like it's like Romeo

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 3>with Juliet hot sex. So I'm like, oh, this is all.

0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 3>So I wrote the record. I'm telling him I don't

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 3>want to be with grand Jerry. I know you're like

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 3>big uncle Mike. So I wrote the record. They let

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:18.759
<v Speaker 3>I did the dummy vocals since the first time I

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 3>saw you, so they gave it to the artists, ain't misbehave.

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 3>So she went in to do the lyrics and it

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 3>just didn't.

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:28.759
<v Speaker 1>So they end up releasing it under your Man. But

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 1>how what did the money look like after that?

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so boom they I just wanted to be a writer. Yeah,

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 3>they sent the girl in the studio to do it.

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 3>She couldn't match.

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 4>She couldn't do it, so they.

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Used my dummy vocals and they sent it to RCA.

0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.320
<v Speaker 3>RCA's like, oh my god, her voice is so authentic.

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:48.479
<v Speaker 3>We want to meet her. They flew me to New York.

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I went in the RCA office New York. They were like, yeah,

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:54.680
<v Speaker 3>we can see it now. We want to do your

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:58.160
<v Speaker 3>silky fine album, and you know, blah blah this and that.

0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 2>So I'm kind of excited and I'm like okay.

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 3>So we get back to Cali. Mind you, I never

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:09.080
<v Speaker 3>get a contract. Why because the production company signed a

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 3>deal with RCA. Okay, so me as an artist, I

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 3>never signed any contract. However, the you know, they do

0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:22.359
<v Speaker 3>the meeting with RCA, we come back to California. They

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 3>give me a check for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:28.799
<v Speaker 3>Nineteen ninety seven.

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 4>And you didn't ask any questions.

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like, they was like, this is your you know,

0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 3>bonus money. This is what we give you up front.

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Da da da da da, And I'm still questioning it,

0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:41.080
<v Speaker 3>like you know, I never signed any paperwork, So okay,

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 3>cool a day. So I did this album Ross Silk,

0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Romeo and Juliet turned out to be a number one record.

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:52.480
<v Speaker 3>I was working with mattland Smith, which I worked with

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:56.719
<v Speaker 3>her from She was a publisher administrator. So I was

0:54:56.800 --> 0:55:00.360
<v Speaker 3>working with Mattlinz Smith, which was the wife of Donovan Smith,

0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 3>which was the engineer of Easy. So I received all

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:07.399
<v Speaker 3>my royalties and all my money off the straight off

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 3>the Street of Compton album.

0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 2>But when I get over here with.

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Grand Jury, mister conception ends up working with Madeline and

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:18.279
<v Speaker 3>then I don't get no fucking publishing.

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:20.560
<v Speaker 4>So you didn't get publishing on that.

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get on the hit record publishing.

0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't know eye contact an entertainment attorney.

0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get no fucking pusish.

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:31.799
<v Speaker 1>And this is how craft Tuna, mac and Cheese it

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:32.440
<v Speaker 1>comes about.

0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:32.799
<v Speaker 3>Yo.

0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:36.840
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna have to know a finished episode, man, so.

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 2>So real quick.

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 3>So I got that one hundred and fifty thousand up front. Yeah,

0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 3>I went and bought me at Mercedes. I paid my

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:45.440
<v Speaker 3>rent up for a year. I'm like, this is the beginning.

0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:49.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm Stanley asking about the paperwork, like, how does it go. Oh,

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:52.120
<v Speaker 3>we're going to get the contract to you. Well, six

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:56.120
<v Speaker 3>months go by, no contract, My record hits number six.

0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:58.440
<v Speaker 4>And the people that you're talking to white. I'm just curious.

0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Michael can is supposed to be one of the guys

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 3>who was the founder of the Crips along with Tookie Williams.

0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 3>He did We're All in the Same Gang, which was

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:12.760
<v Speaker 3>a nonprofit album, a compilation where none of the artists

0:56:12.800 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 3>got paid, you know, so that sort of thing. So

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I clearly wanted to get paid for being a writer. Yeah,

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 3>and get all my publishing. So then nineteen ninety nine,

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:27.759
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety nine, after the record sales and it's number one,

0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:32.399
<v Speaker 3>and at the time, Rome was my label mate. Every

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:34.719
<v Speaker 3>time I see you face it makes me I love

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 3>that record, Like Rome was an excellent artist. So you

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:42.520
<v Speaker 3>have Silki, fine, you have Rome top charting billboards, but

0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:43.600
<v Speaker 3>you're not getting publishing.

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:45.040
<v Speaker 2>No publishing.

0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:47.239
<v Speaker 4>Is there the end of the story where you can

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:47.920
<v Speaker 4>get the publishing.

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 3>So then so then like we're dealing with nineteen ninety

0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:56.279
<v Speaker 3>ninety eight. So I'm like, okay, my record, I went

0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:58.920
<v Speaker 3>to New York because I got the Writer of the

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:02.839
<v Speaker 3>Year award. So now we're in nineteen ninety nine year

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:05.880
<v Speaker 3>and I got the writer It's hanging up in my

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 3>room till this day, my easy e plaques all my work.

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 3>So I get the Writer of the Year award to

0:57:12.200 --> 0:57:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Lamar Sukie Fine Johnson. So I'm like, all of a sudden,

0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 3>that guy had got another artist named Lamar, which was

0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:22.120
<v Speaker 3>a boy. So I'm like, okay, did he like give

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:25.720
<v Speaker 3>the publishing to that Lamar? It wouldn't add up. So

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:29.440
<v Speaker 3>he was like a very h People were afraid of.

0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 4>Him, so he said he was a founder of the crips. Yeah,

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:33.840
<v Speaker 4>people are afraid of him too.

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:35.960
<v Speaker 3>But he was in a wheelchair. So I'm like, I'm

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:39.480
<v Speaker 3>not afraid of him. But he had connections.

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I get what you say.

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:41.960
<v Speaker 2>So boom.

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, all of a sudden, the production company folds.

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:48.960
<v Speaker 3>We don't even there's no more Grand Jury Entertainment. He

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 3>goes to mi Con Music, he switches the company name.

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm going off on ass cap like, I've been a

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:57.560
<v Speaker 3>writer with you guys for so many years. How do

0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 3>I have an asscap Writer of the Year. I'm registered

0:58:01.440 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Lorraine Lyrics under publishing. I'm telling you this is my voice.

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 3>This is written by Lamar Johnson. Oh well, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 3>never gave me a penny.

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<v Speaker 1>So for all y'all entertainment attorneys reach out, there's gotta be.

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<v Speaker 3>A Well that's why I say, you women don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what it is to be up and down and hungry

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<v Speaker 3>and broke and eating and broke and eating and broke

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<v Speaker 3>and eating. So my worth I am a millionaire. Just

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<v Speaker 3>to let you know my net worth. You know, they

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<v Speaker 3>keep up with my network. So twenty years go by,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm begging. They're lucky that I didn't become a drug addict.

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<v Speaker 3>They're lucky that I didn't go crazy like the humiliation,

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<v Speaker 3>but I am so strong. No lady could have their

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<v Speaker 3>picture all over the billboards and the bus stop number

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<v Speaker 3>one on the billboard, and about two years later you

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<v Speaker 3>back at the bus stop.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and that's twenty years later.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty years later. I mean, yeah, thank goodness. I always

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<v Speaker 3>went to school, so I do. I didn't go far,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was almost to my bachelor's but I learned

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<v Speaker 3>that when you study they start doing things online. You

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<v Speaker 3>could just research get your own information. So I did

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<v Speaker 3>receive my AA and journalism, and if I go take

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of courses, I'll have my BA and broadcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I never got the money, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't so I didn't get the physical money. So

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<v Speaker 3>after twenty years, I'm like, now somebody gonna do something.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wrote ASCAP a letter. I said, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what an email I'm about to sue you guys. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been a member of you guys. I have approved writer

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<v Speaker 3>of the Year. You gave us man my credit because

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<v Speaker 3>he claimed it ASCAP Publishing under Mike's rap, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he went to BMI and claimed MI con music.

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<v Speaker 4>So what did ascaps say to your email?

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<v Speaker 3>So they got in touch with that company. They said, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we need a con track. Where's her signature?

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<v Speaker 2>After twenty fucking years and the record then sold.

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<v Speaker 4>All of this is really good h and they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have a contract, so.

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<v Speaker 3>They were like, oh, it's in storage, we're gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like it was so far back. You never transferred your data.

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<v Speaker 4>To files like so then what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>So they never presented. They said, you have ninety days.

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<v Speaker 3>If you do not come up with Lamar Johnson's signature,

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<v Speaker 3>then we're gonna put everything back to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh everything, Cause I was gonna say if it was me,

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<v Speaker 1>I started drafting up my own fake contract two.

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<v Speaker 3>Thousand and No, they couldn't prove any signature.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying I would have tried.

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<v Speaker 2>You tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>About heartbreak twenty years. I had to go back to work.

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<v Speaker 1>So did they so, but they said it will go

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<v Speaker 1>go to you if they can't find approved.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally, in two thoy nineteen, they gave me back all

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<v Speaker 3>my publishing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean I could pull it up on my

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<v Speaker 2>phone with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that is the best story I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to fight. I wanted to go to his

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<v Speaker 3>door five and just I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Blow his head off.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you end up getting it in?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm still dealing with Sony Music because some type

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<v Speaker 3>of way they had licenseeing and I didn't get paid

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<v Speaker 3>out of that. So Sony Music, yeah, they know who

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<v Speaker 3>I am. But how do you how do you like?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So have you considered just and this is my last

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<v Speaker 1>question because we're over on time.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a lot to say, but my MACARONI.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo, I finished that whole magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's soda, ain't good. My last question is ghostwriting.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you have you considered ghost writing for some of

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<v Speaker 1>the greats, the ghosts, because I mean you're very talented,

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<v Speaker 1>or have you ghosts written?

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<v Speaker 3>I used to write for Easy on his last album.

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote a couple of songs on that album, so

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<v Speaker 3>I would love I try to get the girls younger

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<v Speaker 3>than me, Like if you use my flavor, you blow up.

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<v Speaker 3>So then, like I don't know, I start saying there's

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<v Speaker 3>no age limit, there's no time limit on greatness. So

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<v Speaker 3>if Aretha Franklin want to come out after fifty years

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<v Speaker 3>and do her a new song, she's gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 3>If Patti LaBelle, she's gonna do it. So I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>the Aretha Franklin a rap. So what I did was

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<v Speaker 3>a Taylor Swift. Once they start giving me all my publishing,

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<v Speaker 3>I re released Romeo and Juliet, and I want to

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<v Speaker 3>thank all the youth, the younger people, the audience. Because

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<v Speaker 3>I re released the same record. I didn't shoot a

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<v Speaker 3>new video. That's why I'm like, who's coming? Nobody came

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<v Speaker 3>for me? So evidently, Sony, you owe me some money

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<v Speaker 3>for all these licenses with this record.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm getting down to that.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I said, I have a rich spirit, so

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<v Speaker 3>money could never make or break me because I am

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<v Speaker 3>what I said, a creator. So it's like my spirit

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<v Speaker 3>is so rich it always guided me to those physicians.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I re released Romeo and Juliet. I'm at

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<v Speaker 3>what five hundred eighty six thousand streams in eight months

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<v Speaker 3>with no promotion independent, I get about nine hundred a

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<v Speaker 3>month every month from Apple Spotify, you know, just extra income,

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<v Speaker 3>which is more money than I ever made off of

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<v Speaker 3>a number one record. Having did he shake my hand

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<v Speaker 3>at Madison Square Gardens and telling me nice to meet

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<v Speaker 3>the lady who took my number one spot on the billboards.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking nineteen ninety nine Madison Square Gardens, Mariah Carey,

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<v Speaker 3>like I've performed with them, the crazy perfect example.

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<v Speaker 4>He just dropped a new record.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm listening to lot to hearing where you're going

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<v Speaker 1>next for all y'all listeners. Soakie, can you tell all

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners how to keep up with you, how to

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<v Speaker 1>follow you and support you. It's so to say it today,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so easy.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys, just stay tuned to what's real, what's popping,

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<v Speaker 3>and what's rare.

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<v Speaker 2>You can really google.

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<v Speaker 3>Me f y k E, f y he and E.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't spell it with an eye. They do it on purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>It just irks me. Silk E fine, not the conceded.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's what's your Instagram tag?

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<v Speaker 3>Silk E fine? It's only one way to spell it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook, I'm on.

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter, and that's whis no eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's wise no eyes because I am not conceved.

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<v Speaker 1>And then can you just for the fun of it,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have to try this just because I

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<v Speaker 1>love hip hop?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you close out.

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<v Speaker 1>With like a twenty second okay, because rap close out

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty second rap for eating whalle broke in this

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<v Speaker 1>whole situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, hey, hey, live with my girl Coleen, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was eating while broke. Don't trip West Coast. Don't break

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<v Speaker 3>your throat. I gotta hit him with a high note. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know it's murdered. They roh huh. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out what happened to my boys. Poking easy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know I'm still making noise. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 3>they say, I am creativity. I'm'a do it born and

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<v Speaker 3>raised in LA and i'm'a keep eating. And I might

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<v Speaker 3>stay bro but my spirit is rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the utmost, but I'm really rich and I'm not materialistic.

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<v Speaker 3>I kick it with Tuna Mac. Get it a.

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