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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have a

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Speaker 1: West Coast legend in the building. Writer recording artists creator

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Speaker 1: Silky Fine is in the building. Most of us know

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Speaker 1: her from her single Romeo and Juliet. But you also

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Speaker 1: did a track on Easy Eas record. It was called

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Speaker 1: what was it called straight Straight off the Streets of Compton.

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Speaker 2: And the single was called old School Shit, Old School Shit.

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Speaker 1: So this is cool because it's very It's not very

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Speaker 1: often we get a legend, but it's kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: I'm from the East Coast, here from the West Coast

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Speaker 1: to have a legend from the West Coast, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we're gonna hear a lot of juicy stories involving

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Speaker 1: hopefully pocking Easy E. But in the interim for right now,

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Speaker 1: can you tell me what you ate while you were broke?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you right now. I was eating tuna.

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Speaker 4: Matt tuna mac.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because this is a dish that I actually make.

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Speaker 1: But go ahead and tell us what the ingredients are.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the ingredients is simple. It's simply a box

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Speaker 3: of Kraft. It has to be Kraft. You can get

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Speaker 3: it for about ninety nine cents on sale dollar twenty

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Speaker 3: five Kraft macaroni and cheese. Your standard can of tunas.

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Speaker 3: I like to use two cans of tuna. Drink very

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Speaker 3: well so that you can get your protein, half a

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Speaker 3: cup of milk butter, and then throw some has to

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Speaker 3: be the real cheese, not the imitation cheese. But put

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Speaker 3: a couple of sliced cheeses and you'll be set.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a dish. I've done it before.

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Speaker 1: I've never was smart enough to add the Craft single

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Speaker 1: cheeses in it, but now I'm going to add that.

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Speaker 1: And then just for our listeners, this dish is literally

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Speaker 1: a couple bucks. I'm pretty sure it feeds two people.

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Speaker 1: Full right, I would say, you know, if you're a

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Speaker 1: good heavy eater, this dish will make you. But definitely

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Speaker 1: in today's market, this is like a three dollars dish.

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Speaker 4: So let's go ahead and have you cooked for me.

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Speaker 3: No problem, I'm honored to be here and wow broke. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I'm gonna get started.

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Speaker 1: We did preheat the water, so you may have to

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Speaker 1: bring it back up to a boil.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're gonna cause I've been watching. I was like,

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Speaker 3: how can you cook? Somebody go burn itself up such

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Speaker 3: a mess. But anyway, we're gonna start with the craft

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Speaker 3: macaroni and cheese, which your water has to boil. Do

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Speaker 3: not over boil the noodles because you may as well

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Speaker 3: make a pot of top raamen or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you may have to bring it up

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Speaker 4: a little bit. Is always I was boiling.

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Speaker 1: Okay, listen, guys, just so you know, I have a

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Speaker 1: track record of destroying everyone's dish on the show. I

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Speaker 1: can't help it. I'm like the passenger that's telling you

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Speaker 1: how to drive. I need to stay alone.

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Speaker 2: I'm really a fan of eating while broke.

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Speaker 3: So I've watched some of the guests and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: you never cooked the thing in your life?

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Speaker 4: You know who I think never cooked? Believe it or not.

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Speaker 4: I think it's Mario.

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Speaker 1: Sorry Mario, right, even though he was the one that

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Speaker 1: caught it was burning. But can you take me back

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Speaker 1: to what was going on in the time of Tuna Mac.

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Speaker 3: Well, see, I came from a middle class family, so

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Speaker 3: I really didn't experience broke until I became an adult

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Speaker 3: and I wanted to chase my dream and I became

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Speaker 3: an artist. So tuna mac for me really happened at

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Speaker 3: about the age of nineteen twenty because my mom she

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Speaker 3: would cook the real deal, homemade of tuna casseroles. She

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Speaker 3: would make rich beans and rice and hotstails. And you know,

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Speaker 3: no be a creole, but you know our family. It's

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Speaker 3: from Baton Rouge. But I'm a California girl born and raised. However,

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Speaker 3: I don't have the typical personality of a typical La girl.

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Speaker 4: But when did you start falling in love with hip hop?

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Speaker 3: Well, growing up on the West Coast, you have choices,

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Speaker 3: and in my teenage youthful years, it was like, either.

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Speaker 2: You gonna be a gang member?

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna be a entertainer, because I've always had

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Speaker 3: the gift to freestyle.

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Speaker 2: That was my gift.

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Speaker 3: And then going back to elementary school, I was labeled

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Speaker 3: gifted because I would write terrific poems and journalism.

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Speaker 2: I can read, and I would win spelling bees.

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Speaker 3: So Century Park Elementary shots out ice killed. We all

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Speaker 3: went to elementary school together. So I was just like

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Speaker 3: middle class raised on the West side of Los Angeles,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't experience this until I thought I was

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Speaker 4: What did your parents do well?

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Speaker 3: My mom she was a nurse, which she remained the

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Speaker 3: nurse at General Hospital for like until they really closed

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Speaker 3: the building down. She was like a top nurse RIN.

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Speaker 3: So she dealt with healthcare for since I was a

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Speaker 3: little girl. She started out driving school buses and then

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Speaker 3: she became an RIN.

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Speaker 4: So what about your father really.

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Speaker 2: Into the healthcare?

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Speaker 3: My dad, he was a pharmacist at General Hospital.

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Speaker 4: Well, so both parents are doing really good.

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Speaker 3: So my dad he retired from General Hospital, but unfortunately

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Speaker 3: he passed away in two thousand. Oh my goodness, two

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Speaker 3: thousand and twenty nineteen. So I lost my dad. But

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Speaker 3: then my stepdad, which was my mom's husband because she

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Speaker 3: had separated from my dad.

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Speaker 4: You know, oh okay, they weren't together business.

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Speaker 3: But then my stepdad stepped in and he's awesome. He

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Speaker 3: is a he owns his own construction company. So his

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Speaker 3: company is called Lakeview Enterprise black Old. He has been

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Speaker 3: in the business for over fifty seven years.

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Speaker 2: He gets awards, he's top rating.

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Speaker 3: So we were like going on camping trips and fishing trips. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we had a boat parked in our yard and we

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Speaker 3: had a Mercedes.

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Speaker 2: Some of my friends growing.

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Speaker 3: Up, was like, oh, they used to call me peaches

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Speaker 3: before I had.

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Speaker 1: Gotten Now you started pursuing rap music before the age

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Speaker 1: of nineteen or is nineteen and you said, okay, that's it.

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Speaker 2: No, actually I started at fourteen.

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Speaker 3: I went to Henry Clay Junior High School in Gardena, California.

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Speaker 3: You gotta be careful with electric stoves because see, when

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Speaker 3: I was broke, I had guess though and hope that

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Speaker 3: I paid the gas bill, but you know it to'll.

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Speaker 2: Overcook your stuff.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, you have to be careful with the

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Speaker 3: electric stalls. But I'm gonna give it about another two minutes.

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Speaker 3: I'm like mush, So anyway, yeah, definitely. I went to

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Speaker 3: Henry Clay Junior High School.

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Speaker 2: M yeah, a couple of women.

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Speaker 3: So I actually, you know in the yearbook they have

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Speaker 3: a theme called best Dressed, Cutest Couple. Well, I was

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Speaker 3: a creator since I was born, so I started the

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Speaker 3: thing called the best Rapper.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, and what year is this?

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Speaker 2: This was nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 4: Okay, my.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry ninety seven? Are you serious? All? Yeah, nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say what year did hip hop's come out?

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Speaker 2: Because I know we're this when my record.

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Speaker 4: Came home, and uh, we're coming up on the fifty

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Speaker 4: year anniversary of hip hop, So do you refresh my

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Speaker 4: memory on what year hip hop's started? One year? Was

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Speaker 4: that nineteen eight? I want to say nineteen eighty nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 3: My age when I got familiar with hip hop, it

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Speaker 3: was definitely nineteen eighty, yeah, but then it might even

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Speaker 3: went back to seventy nine because it might have been

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Speaker 3: in Africa, been Bottles and the people before Curtis Blow.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It may be seventy five, because if you do the math,

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Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: It would be fifty yeah, right, it would be in

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Speaker 4: the seventies.

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Speaker 3: And then they did have Shirl with the Pearl ringding

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Speaker 3: Dom ding Ding Dom. That might have been seventy seventy

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Speaker 3: eight or seventy nine.

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Speaker 4: So you strike out on your own.

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Speaker 1: Your mom is she in support of this pursuance of music?

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Speaker 2: Not really? Not really?

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Speaker 4: So what was?

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Speaker 2: What was?

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Speaker 4: What did you originally want you to do?

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Speaker 3: She wanted me to be a lawyer, she wanted me

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Speaker 3: to continue to be in school, but she also knows

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Speaker 3: that my passion is writing. My passion is communicating. So

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Speaker 3: then I always had a nick a knack for that.

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Speaker 3: And like I said, ninth grade, boom, I won the

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Speaker 3: best rapper of the year.

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Speaker 2: Can't go had on?

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Speaker 1: And what did she say about all this? Was she

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Speaker 1: embracing in which she embraced.

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Speaker 3: It and she was a little shock because she didn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so never.

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Speaker 3: Did she even like get involved with music. She'd listened

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Speaker 3: He's like a movie person, a lifetime based on the truth.

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Speaker 4: So you're going rogue? Is there? Is there? Do you

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Speaker 4: have siblings?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm from my mom, I have one brother, a

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Speaker 3: little brother, and a little sister. I'm thirteen years older

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Speaker 3: older than my little brother because my mother couldn't stop nothing.

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Speaker 3: But and then from my dad, I have a big sister.

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Speaker 3: She's two years older than me. So I have one

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Speaker 4: Nice.

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Speaker 1: Now, so take me take me back to nineteen year

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Speaker 1: old you. You're pursuing music. What's going on? You didn't

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Speaker 3: Yet No, I don't have a record deal. So I

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Speaker 3: got in the Best of the West Rap contest to

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Speaker 3: Iced Tea was the judge.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 3: I was fresh in high school, so I was going

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Speaker 3: out and getting in talent shows, and you know, I

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Speaker 3: got with a small independent label that was called Neighborhood Records,

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Speaker 3: and nothing ever happened. I did perform with C. C.

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Speaker 3: Penn Easton when I was like eighteen years old at

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Speaker 3: the Hollywood House of Blues, So I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: I was like striving to do this thing called rap.

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Speaker 2: That little label shouts out to Neighborhood Records. It really

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Speaker 4: So what happened when you were on the record, Did

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Speaker 4: you get to release an album or no.

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Speaker 3: I started with that little independent company they were trying.

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Speaker 3: So then you know, I would get in the student

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Speaker 3: with different producers, and I was working with this one producer.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to my guy, the real Richie rich out

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Speaker 3: here on the West Coast. So once you guys, drain

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Speaker 3: your noodles. I'm gonna give you a little instruction. It's

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Speaker 3: pretty simple poor man's meal, So you let your noodles drain.

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Speaker 3: So once I was working with Richie Rich up in

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Speaker 3: this studio in Hollywood, and I'm like, Richie Rich, like,

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Speaker 3: I'm thankful that you're getting me in the studio, but

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Speaker 3: you just don't you you can't do anything.

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Speaker 4: So what do you mean you can't do anything?

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Speaker 2: You can't get me where I need to go.

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Speaker 3: Like we're just like in these beautiful studios, but you're

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Speaker 4: Okay, but you're talented, okay.

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Speaker 3: So instantly I see the phone number and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: So you you you did a disrap on his voicemail

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Speaker 4: Shout out to you.

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Speaker 2: Because I was trying to do all this miracle work.

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Speaker 3: To that beautiful service for my grandmother. I get home

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Speaker 3: This is Eric. Yeah you know Rhythm D. I'm a

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Speaker 2: Your address, and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, grandma, I know you went to heaven. I said,

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Speaker 4: How old are you at this time?

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Speaker 2: At this time, I was seventeen, you were only seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Easy returns your car. You're in nice.

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Speaker 2: I finished.

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Speaker 3: It was like summer, I'm going to junior college.

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Speaker 4: Now you tell your mama, she says, she like child like.

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Speaker 3: Girl who is easy, because you know we were West

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Speaker 3: I'm like, mama, he live in Norwalk. They're about to

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. So I walked in and I'm nervous.

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Speaker 3: that gangster ship? I said I sure am. So he

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Speaker 3: He said he liked it. He was like, that took

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Speaker 2: A four girl group.

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Speaker 3: Okay, had your buddy, let it MIXU.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I put the right amount of butter,

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Speaker 1: so you can use all that.

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Speaker 4: Butter if you. I'm a butter person, me too, I

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Speaker 2: And then when I was poor off using more.

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Speaker 1: I actually didn't know the difference between butter and fake

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Speaker 3: Me it.

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Speaker 2: Is nothing like the butter.

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Speaker 3: So you add your butter and your your little bit

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Speaker 2: Okay. So I was just related again.

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Speaker 3: So then he explained to me that he was hand

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Speaker 3: And then the Homegirl Diamond that corrupt always referenced down

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Speaker 1: Now are you guys, you guys start the recording process.

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Speaker 1: What's your pockets looking like during this journey?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's looking great, like everyone is like easy. The

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Speaker 4: How much bread did he break?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 3: What was that nineteen ninety three, cause it took a little,

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Speaker 3: you know, year two the Marinate. I want to say,

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Speaker 2: So each girl got thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: And back then that was a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Right because it was four of us, So I.

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Speaker 1: But that's still back then, that's a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: now if we bring you back to this, this you

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Speaker 1: So tell me what's going on. How did you end

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Speaker 3: I ended up on Tuna Mac because I mean the

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Speaker 3: twenty one when I made the tuna mac, okay, because

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Speaker 3: I mean I had a good teenage year. I didn't

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Speaker 3: one because Easy was.

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Speaker 4: Dead, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I started going a little bit. Thought I was grown.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to go back home like my mom,

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Speaker 3: like I told you that, yeah, yusic stuff. So I

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Speaker 3: like we had a great deal, Easy E. We were traveling,

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Speaker 3: we recorded with Bone Thugs in.

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Speaker 4: Harmony, and you're not living with your mom at this point.

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Speaker 4: Where are you living? Are you on your Yeah? Are

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Speaker 3: No, we were I had my own little single, okay,

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Speaker 2: I lived in a little single in Hollywood.

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Speaker 4: And oh you didn't end up staying in Compton, No.

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Speaker 2: Because my grandma passed away.

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Speaker 3: I never lived in Compton in my life, and she

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Speaker 4: But you said you moved to Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I moved to Hobhood. I was raised on the

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Speaker 1: Did you choose Hollywood because you were blowing up and

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Speaker 1: you wanted to feel Hollywood?

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Speaker 3: Because, like I said, it was a choice be a

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Speaker 2: And this was like.

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Speaker 3: At the age of nineteen and so then when I

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: So by the time this I met him in nineteen

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Speaker 3: for Eric. It was easy, was like really, but did

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Speaker 3: you know it was a lot of emotional things back then,

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Speaker 3: so being that we were just producing this album and

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Speaker 3: the album never came out because he passed away.

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Speaker 4: So what did they end up doing with the record?

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Speaker 4: They just ended up holding a hostage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a big story behind Ruthless Records. That's

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Speaker 2: You like it.

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Speaker 3: You don't even hear about Ruthless Records. Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 3: like fifty of years of hip hop? Where's easy East Star?

446
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 3: Where's his tribute?

447
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

448
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 3: Put the West Coast on the map. Not only did

449
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 3: he just put Compton on the map, but here's our

450
00:21:49,480 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 3: dish whila.

451
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, we are back okay. And I can't even

452
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: tell you how excited I am to be with you.

453
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: I think the more you tell your story, I'm more hypes.

454
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: But you did service up this tuna, Mac And I've

455
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 1: had this before, but I've never had it done like this,

456
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: And you are inspiring me just based on looks and

457
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: smell right that this is the correct way.

458
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 4: I think it's the single cheese that make it more cheese.

459
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 4: But let's try it for our listening again. And you

460
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 4: had it salt and pepper too, right.

461
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a little bit. I'm gonna start eating this.

462
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 4: Ag ain't gonnat this.

463
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: There, it's awesome. I can't. I can't just toot my

464
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: own horn. Trying to figure out if.

465
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 4: Or the Cheddar slices that are bringing out the flavors

466
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 4: so well.

467
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 3: I'm thinking it's the slices because I put I'm not

468
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 3: a salty person because it'll ruin a meal.

469
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: But yo, this is the only way to eat Raft

470
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: mac and cheese for the rest of your life, y'all.

471
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

472
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: And the secret ingredient for this dish is definitely the

473
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: Craft cheese and that's nothing, but.

474
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it adds valume because you get your pack of

475
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: cheese on sale and it goes a long way when

476
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 3: you were single living in a single.

477
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: And people have used Belvida cheese on the show, and

478
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: I just have to say, Belvita cheese has so much

479
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: salt in it. If you're not used to eating bad

480
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: quality food, switch to Kraft Mac slices.

481
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah that was brilliant.

482
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: Okay, now back to the story. Okay, now we know

483
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: we and always say this on the show. The broker

484
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: the dish, the better, the story. This has proven my

485
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: theory again. So we're now that we you know, you've

486
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: been signed, walk us closer to easy eas passing what's

487
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: going on during that time?

488
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: Okay, so life instantly changed once we received that money.

489
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 3: I took that twenty thousand our went and bought me

490
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 3: a new Ford Festiva, no card, no paid my rent

491
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 3: up for a year. We're matt, we're jamming, we're recording

492
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: Bone Thugs and Harmony come out here. So females, we

493
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: were a little caddy. We would argue we couldn't get

494
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 3: along and just the girl thing. So Bone Thug came.

495
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 3: They were starving. They was from Cleveland, so they were ready.

496
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: So we got pushed back because Bone Thugs definitely came

497
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 3: out here and got busy.

498
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: And at the time, girl rappers, you know, it had

499
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: to been still kind of new so versus like male

500
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: rappers were I'm assuming we're more acceptable.

501
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like we were literally like a first four

502
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: girl group.

503
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 4: And you guys were doing gangster rappers.

504
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we did have Salt and Pepper Spinderella. You know,

505
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 3: we admired quein Latifa live.

506
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: But you guys are doing gangster You're doing a little

507
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 4: different we.

508
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 3: Were doing straight hardcore, like we had a song called

509
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: coming Out the Woodworks and like we had shoot them

510
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 3: on a Sunday, like we had at like faul Deep.

511
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 4: Is there a way to look up this record?

512
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: Yes, they're on YouTube.

513
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: They're on YouTube, and can people download it on like Spotify.

514
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: Or any day.

515
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 3: We really didn't do a release because it was so

516
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 3: old when we received it. It was like on Ada's

517
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: and Big real tracks. H oh goodness. It was yeah

518
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: back in the early nineties.

519
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 4: So where are you at when you get the call

520
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: about Easy?

521
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 3: Who where was I at when Easy?

522
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 4: Or when you found what was going on when you

523
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 4: found out?

524
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: Like did you hear rumors first or did you hear

525
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: directly from Okay?

526
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: So the thing is boom? So we're we're working on

527
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: our album Bones is out here. We were doing records

528
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: with Bone Thugs. We're opening up Easy got us in Oakland.

529
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: We're doing all the San Francisco, Oakland, all these West

530
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: Coast shows. But we're traveling, so Easy went to New York.

531
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 3: I was the only group member that ended up pregnant

532
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: with my only child. I have one son, twenty nine

533
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 3: years old. How old were you I was twenty two

534
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: when I got pregnant.

535
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 4: Oh wow, oh wow, So were you scared to tell him?

536
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: And actually he's my son's godfather and he was really

537
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: supportive because he had a gang of kids. But my

538
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: group members, on the other hand, they were like, you're

539
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: gonna mess up our career. Why are you doing this?

540
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: You're pregnant, and I'm like, me and my baby daddy.

541
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: We rolled like Bonnie and Clyde, and I'm keeping my

542
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: baby like the first and only time that I got pregnant.

543
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: So I'm very glad that I kept my child. Yeah,

544
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: so easy embraced it. I got so many great memories.

545
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: He embraced it. He was like, that's my godson because.

546
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: It was a big old deal.

547
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: The girls wasn't talking to me, and he was still alive. Yeah,

548
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: he was still alive.

549
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: Oh.

550
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: I got so many great moments of how he just

551
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: embraced me and my child had my baby daddy that

552
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 3: I didn't end up staying with. But so Eric was

553
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: in New York and we were like, you know, he'd

554
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: answer every call.

555
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: We always talked to he. He loved our group.

556
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: Our group was his female in wa so there was

557
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: no question or doubt that we weren't on He's in

558
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: New York. When we spoke to Eric, he was real excited,

559
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: like he ran into Cube.

560
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: So we were in hopes that like, oh, my god, Ren.

561
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: Is still here, yell us here. If he gets with Cube,

562
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 3: you know, Drake gonna come back.

563
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 4: And Cube was a beast back then. So we're like,

564
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 4: so was really popping at that time?

565
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, cause Cube had already dropped his up.

566
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so we're talking ninety four now, maybe

567
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: it was ninety five because my son was already born,

568
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: so right, yeah, it was after the birth of my son.

569
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: My son was born in November, so I was basically

570
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: pregnant like the whole nine months when Bone Thugs came.

571
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: I wasn't one of the group members that was with

572
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 3: Bone Thugs and Harvey. I was very pregnant with my

573
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: baby father. That had nothing to do with the industry.

574
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: He was not an industry cat. So we get the call,

575
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I feel good. I do have a

576
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: little cold, but I'll be back in two days. Like

577
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: he's like, I ran in the ice Cube. When we

578
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 3: get him on y'all record GBMS pumped up, We're like.

579
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: Oh, but at the time he said he had a cold. Yeah,

580
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: so it's something he started to realize something.

581
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: He's always had bronchias, Like we would go to Jerry's Deli.

582
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: Eric Easye would never eat dairy foods. He would never

583
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: do milkshakes. He would never So we always knew, but

584
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: it wasn't to where.

585
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: But he was like, oh.

586
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: Within the second day of him being in New York,

587
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: he like, oh, it's the weather change, cause you know.

588
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: I just wore my car, but it's snowing.

589
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: And so we were thinking, like, Okay, he just caught

590
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: a cold because of the change of weather. So then

591
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 3: when he get back home and I'm like, what was

592
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: I doing? And I was probably because I moved out

593
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: once I had my son, I had my money, I

594
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: was with Ruthless. Back then, the city of Rialto was

595
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: really nice. It wasn't a lot of people. So I

596
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: moved out to Rialto and I remember I'm with my

597
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: son and I'm like, I'm about to cook dinner. And

598
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: one of the girls in the group was like, easy

599
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: is in the hospital. Matter of fact, let me go back,

600
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: let me keep it solid, let me tell the truth,

601
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: because when you're cut up in stories just so much.

602
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: So we had a friend, Hershanna, that worked at the hospital.

603
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: That's how we initially found out. She worked at Cedar

604
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: Sinai and she was like, oh my god, y'all, guess

605
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: who in here?

606
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: Easy?

607
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: But he under a alias, So we found out. We

608
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: started calling Big Ron, all the security, the Samoe and Twins.

609
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: We're calling these guys, like, what's up, what's up with there?

610
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: They like, Oh, he'll be okay, he'll be okay. We

611
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: rushed to the hospital because then the new start announcing,

612
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: like we rushed up to the hospital.

613
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: They were already saying like, he has full blown.

614
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: AIDS and I'm like, never heard of it, never heard

615
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: of it, don't know what that is.

616
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 4: So oh at the time, nobody really knew what it was.

617
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: Nobody knew what it was because we didn't know it

618
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: was AIDS when we got there. It was pneumonia okay,

619
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: you know, so it ended up being full blown AIDS.

620
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: That we were like, how did that happen?

621
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like we never saw anybody deteriorate. So all the

622
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: artists was there, menaja twy it was one eighty seven.

623
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: Above the law. It was bone.

624
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: Thug gbm hwa. I mean, like all the artists, so

625
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: We're at the hospital. They're letting, like, group by group

626
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: go in and we walk in the room.

627
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, I don't even want to I.

628
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: Walked out because Eric was as black as this. Wow,

629
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: he was so dark and it looked like he was

630
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: like how you just be dead for three days?

631
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: But he was in a komba. He was just out

632
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: of it.

633
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, slimmer or did he look from

634
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: the exterior outside of his skin color he.

635
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: Didn't look then, or he looked blacker than he's like,

636
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: he was not that color.

637
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: He looked terrible.

638
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 4: But they said for sure he had full blown as well.

639
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: They were like, yeah, it was pneumonia, Da da da da.

640
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: The first day it wasn't. Then I think, okay, So

641
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: we visited him and I'm like.

642
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: Why is he so dark? Why is he in a coma?

643
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: Like isn't this a transsexually transmitted disease?

644
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: Like what's going on?

645
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, this is not pneumonia. Like I

646
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: have a cousin living with HIV and he was. He

647
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: was detected as having HIV at nineteen and he's like

648
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: fifty three.

649
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: Okay, Magic Johnson.

650
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many references before blown, so instantly

651
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: it was like we went to visit Eric. He didn't

652
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: look good and we never saw him again.

653
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: But now, somewhere along this story and correct me if

654
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Before Easy's passing, do you end up working

655
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: with Tupac?

656
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 4: Can you? Can you talk about that?

657
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well what happened.

658
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: I met Tupac way before I even had a record

659
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: deal with Easy, because, like I said, rap was my

660
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: passion and I knew that I could freestyle, and it

661
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: was like, I gotta, I gotta do this. But it

662
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: was funny because when I met Pac, he didn't know

663
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: that I knew.

664
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: How to rap.

665
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: Tell me about that encounter.

666
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: We went to a club downtown used to be oh Ship,

667
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: the Jamaican Club. They called it the Jamaican Club, so

668
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: it would it would crack downtown. So I never really

669
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: liked the rappers or I never had a bewild.

670
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: But I never was like that.

671
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I really wasn't into like

672
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: I won't be a man that rapped because I rapped.

673
00:32:54,040 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: So I'm like, but you said that like you you had, maybe.

674
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: We could touch it a basis because I'm really really

675
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: honest with this, So I meet Tupac and his boy Mouseman.

676
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: So I met him at the club and everything, and

677
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: you know, we was just partying in the club and

678
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: vibing and just dancing, smoking weed. So Mouseman and his

679
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: brother mokaream. They used to call them Mouseman and the Wicked,

680
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: but it was Mopream And this was before like, was

681
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: it Brenda's Got a Baby?

682
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was during that time.

683
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: It was during before he shot the video for Brenda's

684
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: Got a Baby. So I ended up like a Mouseman.

685
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: His name is Dana and.

686
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 4: He I think his name was Dana.

687
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dana, but we called a Mouseman. Really talented, and

688
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: so he knew I rapped, but I was always like,

689
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: I don't want pop to know because I was like,

690
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: I gotta get a little tighter.

691
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: I gotta okay, okay.

692
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 4: So I can't respect that because you didn't want him.

693
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: To Yeah, yeah, because I was like, I gotta get tighter.

694
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: So we kept that under the radar. But I had

695
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 3: a crush on Mouseman, and I'm like, yeah, you like

696
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 3: Tupac hyke dude, so I'll like you. I'm not trying

697
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: to get with Pac. I want to work with Pac,

698
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: like with Eazye I was pregnant. He was really like

699
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 3: I say, Eric is my god brother because I met

700
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: him through God the day I buried my grandmother. It

701
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: was just all just real, real, spiritual for me. So

702
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: I met Mouseman, and me and mouse Man would talk

703
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: on the phone, me and my homegirl Diamond. So once

704
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: I met Mouseman, I always knew how to cook good.

705
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: So matter of fact, wait, I don't want to get cold,

706
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: but I knew how to cook good. So they would

707
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: always stay at the Mandrion and all these places because

708
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: Pac had just dropped Brenda's got a baby, and he

709
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: was working with a tron and like we was just

710
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: regular like homegirls. And then I lived in La so

711
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: I knew where to get all the good weed, you know. Then,

712
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: So this is really when my nineteen year old days

713
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: these is like fresh out of high school, eighteen nineteen rolling.

714
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: But by the time I was nineteen, I met Easye.

715
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 3: So the personal friendships I wasn't.

716
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: I was focused on.

717
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: Being an artist with a record deal. But when I

718
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: met Mouseman, and I'm like, I remember he wrote me

719
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: my first little rap that I ever let any guy write,

720
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 3: because I wasn't. But I'm like, man, I know I'm

721
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 3: gonna get next to Tupac. What is y'all style? Because

722
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: he was from Philly, I believe, But he was from

723
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: the East.

724
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: Coast, Oh, I thought, for I thought Tupac was from

725
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: No Mouse Mousemaid.

726
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: He was from the East Coast, no doubt. And that's

727
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: where he met I believe, Baltimore.

728
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 4: But did you end up working with Tupac later on

729
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: down the line?

730
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 3: So I met him then he never really knew I rapped.

731
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: I would take them weed because I lived in La

732
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: So I was just like the homegirl girl and me

733
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: and Diamond would go and I would cook at home

734
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: and just bring them enchiladas in tuna castle ROAs the

735
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 3: right way and you know.

736
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: So you would just like to cook.

737
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, So then speed me up to where you guys

738
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: actually end up getting to work together.

739
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Eric really wanted to sign Tupac too.

740
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: He was like, I'm gonna get Poc. But then Pac

741
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: went to death Row. So I wouldn't say that it

742
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: was beef, but I mean we was with Ruthless Records.

743
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: Even though I knew snoop and corrupting everybody. I wasn't

744
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: gonna hang with death Row because I'm.

745
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: With Ruthless course, so it was just.

746
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 3: Like okay, so he never you know, made that connection

747
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: with POC. So then after Pop died, after Easy died,

748
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: another good our good friend Shari. She's like a mentor,

749
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: Shari Henry, which worked with Pac a lot, and Pac

750
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: knew about us, he knew about GBM, everybody knew about

751
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: Gangst the Bitch mentality first Girl Gangst the group on

752
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: the West Coast. So Shari was also like a manager,

753
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 3: and you know, she worked with a lot of different artists,

754
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 3: so she's like yo. You know, Pak was asking like

755
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: what's up with Silk. I'm like, oh, yeah, they're in GBL.

756
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: So he was like, have her come down to the studio.

757
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: So me and my group went to the studio and

758
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: we met Pop and we did a song which was

759
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: released last Motherfucker's Breathing, But when Tupac died, we got

760
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: taken off the record, so I have yeah, the original

761
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: is on YouTube, so all my references are facts.

762
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm be like, look get up baby, but

763
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: like yeah, it's like I have so many emotional moments

764
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: with this industry because I went through eating and then

765
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm broke. I'm gonna bring this closer to you, and

766
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: then I'm eating and then I'm hungry again.

767
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 4: That's what I'm Then I was eating.

768
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: And then I was hungry again. So my story is

769
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: more like up down, weighing, you know, learning my spirituality,

770
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: knowing that I am a woman of God. And I

771
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: did intimidate a lot of people. Because when you're out

772
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: to rip somebody off or you're out to use somebody,

773
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 3: you know, God fearing people are gonna stand the storm.

774
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: We are gonna survive. So I think we're so motivating

775
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: and inspirational For me today at forty eight years old,

776
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: I still chair tears up the microphone. I still will

777
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: rap at the spur of a moment, heartbeat, and my

778
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 3: vocals are still strong.

779
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: So I heard you.

780
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw me.

781
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: But first of all, there's a huge jay Z painting

782
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: in my lobby.

783
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I brag about it all the time.

784
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 4: I'm trying to speak jay Z into existence.

785
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: Right, come on to the show, Jay.

786
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: But when you wrapped I lit up like a little

787
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: kid on Christmas. I was like, oh snap, so and

788
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: I was like three lines yeah.

789
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: So then went up.

790
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: We did still you know, still Breathing, which is called

791
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: Last Motherfucker's Breathing season. The season and the means be

792
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: my reason I be the last Motherfucker's breathing. So the

793
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: session went like this.

794
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: We walked in.

795
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: He was like, get on the mic. Whoever ain't got

796
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: their part, We're going like this. That's one thing I

797
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: learned from POC. Be persistent, do not overstudy, overthink your lyrics, or.

798
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: You won't be on this record.

799
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: It was like, so it was Kadafi, it was all

800
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: of the Outlaws and my four girls, So you put

801
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: nine rappers on the record with Tupac. It was like,

802
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: so soon as he did his part, I ran in there,

803
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: I ran to the mic. My group members were still writing.

804
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: They came at the end of the song. They started

805
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: bumping some people off. And then when the final initial

806
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: record came out, like half the Outlaws and half of well,

807
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: Kadafi I believe had got murdered too. So it was

808
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: like half of them came off the record and half

809
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 3: of us came off the record.

810
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: Did you end up staying on the.

811
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: Newe None of the GBM members were on that, but

812
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: we have the original, yes, well, which means so much

813
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: more to me.

814
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

815
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: So then boom we lose eze Bam. I'm like, I

816
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: don't want to rap no more. I'm like, uh so

817
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: then Tupac he used to he was like silk you dope.

818
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: He worked with Storm and he worked with me.

819
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: So after Eazy E died or deal folded, Ruthless Records

820
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: didn't do right by Eric at all. I don't know

821
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: what happened to Ruthless Records, but it shouldn't have folded.

822
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: You had the first girl gangster group coming out, which

823
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: we were known. One of the members shout out to

824
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: Ice Girl, Diamond Diamond. Ice Girl used to go with

825
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: Tretch like. We used to really hang out and we were.

826
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 4: Did you see the NWA movie?

827
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: Yes? I did I movie. Yes.

828
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Do you think that when you watch that movie you

829
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: get a little backstorand why Ruthless crumbles?

830
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: No, I don't get anything out of why Ruthless crumbled

831
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: because Ruthless was booming. See I was with Ruthless Records,

832
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: and I can recall when Eric and Jerry Heller didn't

833
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 3: see either eye. Eric would not come to the office.

834
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: If Jerry Heller was in the office, we would meet

835
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: him at Jerry's Delhi. We would meet him at the galleria,

836
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: the mall right there, like he would not come in

837
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: the office, So I can recall that being weird. It

838
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 3: was like we'd go there to get our checks. Mike

839
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: Klein would be there, all these different people, Gary Ballan,

840
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: you know, and it was like family. We were like

841
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 3: a real Ruthless family. But when Easy and Jerry fell out,

842
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: that's when things were different. But it was still ruthless.

843
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: It was like he was excited. He had HWA, he

844
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: had will i Am, which was in the act band Clan,

845
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: So will i Am was with Ruthless.

846
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: That was my label mate.

847
00:41:59,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: Wow.

848
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: We had great. We had a roster that was just untouchable.

849
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: So now I'm just for time. I'm gonna skip you

850
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: up to twoenty and twenty three. Yeah, we're in the

851
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: arena of We got the Nicki Minajas, we have the

852
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: Cardi B's, yeah, obviously before them, the Little Kid Brown,

853
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: all these guys.

854
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: What's your opinion on today's rap music with the women?

855
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: I love like today?

856
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: When I watched Lola Brooks new little video Gotta Get

857
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: You Home, she remade the Foxy Brown and I was

858
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: looking at her like, this is what I brought on

859
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: my solo project when I did my solo stuff, because

860
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 3: I'm on the host of records. Like, but I think,

861
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: like the females are winning. I love them. I love Nikki,

862
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 3: I love Cardi, I love Lola Brooks, I love Megan A. Stallion,

863
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: I love Doja cat Like.

864
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: I'm to be honest.

865
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: The only person I'm not really feeling it, and it

866
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: could be just because I haven't given her a time

867
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: of day is Sexy Red.

868
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: I'm not feeling that message.

869
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: I'm not feeling that raunchiness something because like when we

870
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: were going to be a gangster girl group, it was

871
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: clearly early nineties, it was in It was really creative

872
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: at that time. But to me, there's too much promoting

873
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: these little girls to be strippers when they grow up.

874
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: You know, our music had substance, our music had a message.

875
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: In the nineties, you were going to get a message

876
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: out of something, and today music is like a lot

877
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: of the female artists is not being great role models

878
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: for our little girls who love to look up to rappers.

879
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree.

880
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: I think Nicki and Cardi I give them a past

881
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: because a lot of their actual albums are really good

882
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: and inspiring and they both fall.

883
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: I don't put Cardy or Nikki in that category because

884
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: they were always class. They were like a branch off

885
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: of Little Kim, Foxy Bro. You know, it was always class.

886
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: But I do wish that the women rappers would move

887
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: away from selling sex because I feel like now we

888
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 1: as women, we're almost we're now it's becoming. It's sad

889
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: to say, but men are now the prize and women

890
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: because we keep degrading ourselves to just sex, now we

891
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: are no longer the prize.

892
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: No more so. It's so risky.

893
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: That's why a lot of time I just say, I

894
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: can't speak on the world, but on the West Coast,

895
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: it's so hard for people to push women out here

896
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: unless you're from somewhere else and you just moved and

897
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: came to California.

898
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's an.

899
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: Ego thing, what's going on with these men, because we

900
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: been our own Oprah Winfrey's, we been the sloop dogs,

901
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 3: we've been the you know, so many talented things, and

902
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: it's like they just don't want to give you that

903
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: extra push. And it can be happening in a lot

904
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: of different states as well, because when you get into

905
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: the egos of a man, and then like, I don't

906
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: have BBLS. I'm not knocking nobody. But when you're natural

907
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: and you're real, and you're confident and you didn't have

908
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: to go get your stomach cut off because it didn't

909
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 3: make you talented or it didn't give you the gift

910
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: to So if they know that you're a strong person

911
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: and you're not weak and you're not gonna do drugs

912
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: because they want you to be weak minded, or you're

913
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: not gonna sleep with them. And so we missed out

914
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: on that era because they start flooding it with the

915
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: be a hoe, take his money, shake it. And I'm

916
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: not knocking the strippers shots out.

917
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm not.

918
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 4: I'm not knocking the strippers.

919
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 1: But when I see someone like and I really hate

920
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: to use her as an example, but I'm going to

921
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: based on very little that I know about her. So

922
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: this is coming from more of an ignorant perspective. But

923
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 1: when I see like a sexy Red, I start to think, Okay,

924
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: is this now just the industry, the people behind whoever's

925
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: running the record labels just packaging black girls to look

926
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: completely like just strippers, like that's all we're worth or

927
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm disappointed because I feel like, you know,

928
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: right now, there's rumors, you know, we are coming up

929
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: on the fiftieth anniversary, but there are rumors that rap

930
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: sales are declining. Yeah, and I'm starting to think that

931
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: the reason why rap sales are client are reclining is because,

932
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: and I want to hear your opinion, is because the

933
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: music industry said, okay, rap women are doing good, let's

934
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: make little rap prototypes that sell this particular image. And

935
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: it's you know, And so now I'm like, and is

936
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: that why you think the rap sales are starting to decline,

937
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: because like the authenticity des dropping.

938
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 3: And then that's what it is. It's like, don't sell

939
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: your soul, Like, don't let a label say here go uh,

940
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 3: here go half a meal and we're gonna do this this,

941
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: And you talk about all that because everybody is a

942
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: role model, whether you're in the hood, being at the

943
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: bus stop, going to work every day, Like we all

944
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 3: are role models to some children out there, and we're

945
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: losing it. And then, especially because I live here in

946
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, it's like I don't watch the news anymore.

947
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: It's just just upsetting it because they only glamorize the

948
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: shootings are then they don't glamorize enough of the shootings

949
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 3: because if you have like citizens app or you watch

950
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 3: a million hits out here on the YouTube and on Instagram,

951
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 3: there's like five shootings a day. We don't know about

952
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: it because they don't come to our community unless hits

953
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 3: somebody that just you know, hurt each other. We need

954
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 3: to be more aware of what's going on in our communities.

955
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: And then music is a big influence. And I'm not like,

956
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: I don't care what you talk about, what you rap about,

957
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: but just know that it's overrated right now. We used

958
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 3: to have rated or talk about the police, but this

959
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: is set.

960
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think one of the things you touched on

961
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: was like selling your soul.

962
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: I feel like almost all the interviews that I've done

963
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: with recording artists their first album specific really kind.

964
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: Of was like, Yo, that isn't me.

965
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: I remember Neil telling me that's not me my first record,

966
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: I gotta walk and Neil Neil had the courage to

967
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: just be like I ain't doing it and riskying blackballed

968
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, I was, but God, but God,

969
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, had his back because he still came out shining.

970
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 4: But that was a risk, risky move on him.

971
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: But when you see some of these new rappers, I'm like, Okay,

972
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: this label just put this out. This label's packaging this

973
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: girl like this and it.

974
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: It's so what happened with me after Easy I was

975
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 3: eating he died? I was hungry, broke again being Tupac.

976
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 3: So I connected Tupac and Busy Bone because Easy E

977
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: had died. So I get in touch with pop again

978
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yo, because you gotta do a song

979
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 3: with Busy Bone. He's like, oh yeah, that's the thug niggas.

980
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 3: We was gonna hook up and do that, but you

981
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: gotta be on the record. So I'm like, okay, you

982
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: hear that. I said, Bee, Tupac gonna come. He gotta

983
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: go do a Vasia She runway model show. He's flying out.

984
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: He said, he gonna come before you go to the airport,

985
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 3: so you get ready. So it wasn't the Bone thugs

986
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 3: in harmony. It was Tupac, Busy Bone. Me and Tupac

987
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: walked in dressed in all white, looking like whoo macavella.

988
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: So he came in. He laid his part.

989
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: I'll probably be punished for whoor living blind to the

990
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 3: fact that Thugs is convicts in God's prison and am

991
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 3: strip praying so Foca please forgive me. So I was

992
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: on the original Thug Love, which that one was released

993
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: and it's out on all the platforms.

994
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: Now, is there something that most people don't know about? Like,

995
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: is there a fun fact that I can I can

996
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: get from this?

997
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, two fun facts for the new generation and for

998
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: those that don't go to Google and look up wikipedias

999
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 3: and stuff. A lot of people don't know my name

1000
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 3: is Lamar, Like I've never met a lady named Lamar,

1001
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 3: So I think that's kind of unique. And then a

1002
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 3: lot of people because I don't just say hey, I'm Lamar,

1003
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 3: but I get those writer credits and I'm like, yes,

1004
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: I miss Lamar. But a lot of people don't know

1005
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 3: that Omari, Well, his name is Omari, but you guys

1006
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: call him omar on Like a lot of people don't

1007
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: know that's my nephew omphew. Now everybody call me on tea.

1008
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: I am the West Coast favorite auntie. But bio logically,

1009
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: like a lot of people don't know.

1010
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: Have you ever has omarion and you ever talked about collaborating?

1011
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 3: We were like this close to collaborating. I want to

1012
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 3: say about five years ago, because you know I made

1013
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 3: it before my nephew.

1014
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.

1015
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 3: And I remember, you know, my sister I was iront

1016
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: at thirteen. She had him when she was fifteen. So

1017
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: like when I made it, I could recall I have

1018
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 3: some touch and stuff too, because when I made it,

1019
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: I could recall getting my sister on payroll because she

1020
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: was doing the hairstyling.

1021
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: She was working the video straps. She can do braids.

1022
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: My sister was a bad She did my little hair

1023
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 3: pieces like she can weave, she can braid. So you

1024
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 3: know me, I'm little sis. My sister has four kids.

1025
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: Da da da da da.

1026
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, I'm gonna get you on payroll.

1027
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: You need to be a stylust. So I did that

1028
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 2: for my sister.

1029
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: And then this was with my first solo record deal

1030
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: where I wrote the hit record Romeo and Juliet. So

1031
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: it was my first album under RCA Records, which was

1032
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: entitled Raw Silk. And then the funny thing about this

1033
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 3: album is that I never signed a contract.

1034
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 4: So what does that mean.

1035
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: I never signed a contract all of it.

1036
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: So what happened is I got with Michael CONCEPTIONI on,

1037
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 3: Hey Mike, so, yeah, you know, I'm young. I didn't

1038
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: want to rap anymore. I'm like, fuck that Easy is dead.

1039
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: Tupac is dead. They believed in me. They didn't try

1040
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: to sexual harass me. It was like my brother said,

1041
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 3: by God. So I was really discouraged. So I went

1042
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: in as a writer for this Grand Jury Entertainment, which

1043
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: was a well known man in a wheelchair, Michael conception On.

1044
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I don't want to be an artist,

1045
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: but I'm a hell of a writer. So they gave

1046
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 3: me the track and some girl Ain't Misbehave was rapping

1047
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: on it. But RCA wasn't buying the record. They were like,

1048
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: oh god, it's really corny. So the hook was already there,

1049
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 3: shouts out to McKinley, av that was black chill. So

1050
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 3: I get the track and it's like it's like Romeo

1051
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: with Juliet hot sex. So I'm like, oh, this is all.

1052
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 3: So I wrote the record. I'm telling him I don't

1053
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: want to be with grand Jerry. I know you're like

1054
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: big uncle Mike. So I wrote the record. They let

1055
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 3: I did the dummy vocals since the first time I

1056
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: saw you, so they gave it to the artists, ain't misbehave.

1057
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: So she went in to do the lyrics and it

1058
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 3: just didn't.

1059
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: So they end up releasing it under your Man. But

1060
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: how what did the money look like after that?

1061
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 3: Okay, so boom they I just wanted to be a writer. Yeah,

1062
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: they sent the girl in the studio to do it.

1063
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 3: She couldn't match.

1064
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 4: She couldn't do it, so they.

1065
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: Used my dummy vocals and they sent it to RCA.

1066
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 3: RCA's like, oh my god, her voice is so authentic.

1067
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 3: We want to meet her. They flew me to New York.

1068
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: I went in the RCA office New York. They were like, yeah,

1069
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: we can see it now. We want to do your

1070
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 3: silky fine album, and you know, blah blah this and that.

1071
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of excited and I'm like okay.

1072
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: So we get back to Cali. Mind you, I never

1073
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: get a contract. Why because the production company signed a

1074
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: deal with RCA. Okay, so me as an artist, I

1075
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 3: never signed any contract. However, the you know, they do

1076
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 3: the meeting with RCA, we come back to California. They

1077
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: give me a check for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

1078
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety seven.

1079
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 4: And you didn't ask any questions.

1080
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: No.

1081
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: I was like, they was like, this is your you know,

1082
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: bonus money. This is what we give you up front.

1083
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: Da da da da da, And I'm still questioning it,

1084
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 3: like you know, I never signed any paperwork, So okay,

1085
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 3: cool a day. So I did this album Ross Silk,

1086
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: Romeo and Juliet turned out to be a number one record.

1087
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 3: I was working with mattland Smith, which I worked with

1088
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 3: her from She was a publisher administrator. So I was

1089
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 3: working with Mattlinz Smith, which was the wife of Donovan Smith,

1090
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 3: which was the engineer of Easy. So I received all

1091
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 3: my royalties and all my money off the straight off

1092
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 3: the Street of Compton album.

1093
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: But when I get over here with.

1094
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 3: Grand Jury, mister conception ends up working with Madeline and

1095
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 3: then I don't get no fucking publishing.

1096
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 4: So you didn't get publishing on that.

1097
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: I didn't get on the hit record publishing.

1098
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: I don't know eye contact an entertainment attorney.

1099
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: I didn't get no fucking pusish.

1100
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: And this is how craft Tuna, mac and Cheese it

1101
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: comes about.

1102
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 3: Yo.

1103
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to know a finished episode, man, so.

1104
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: So real quick.

1105
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 3: So I got that one hundred and fifty thousand up front. Yeah,

1106
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: I went and bought me at Mercedes. I paid my

1107
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 3: rent up for a year. I'm like, this is the beginning.

1108
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: I'm Stanley asking about the paperwork, like, how does it go. Oh,

1109
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: we're going to get the contract to you. Well, six

1110
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: months go by, no contract, My record hits number six.

1111
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 4: And the people that you're talking to white. I'm just curious.

1112
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: Michael can is supposed to be one of the guys

1113
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: who was the founder of the Crips along with Tookie Williams.

1114
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 3: He did We're All in the Same Gang, which was

1115
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 3: a nonprofit album, a compilation where none of the artists

1116
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 3: got paid, you know, so that sort of thing. So

1117
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: I clearly wanted to get paid for being a writer. Yeah,

1118
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: and get all my publishing. So then nineteen ninety nine,

1119
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine, after the record sales and it's number one,

1120
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 3: and at the time, Rome was my label mate. Every

1121
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 3: time I see you face it makes me I love

1122
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: that record, Like Rome was an excellent artist. So you

1123
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: have Silki, fine, you have Rome top charting billboards, but

1124
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 3: you're not getting publishing.

1125
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: No publishing.

1126
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 4: Is there the end of the story where you can

1127
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 4: get the publishing.

1128
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: So then so then like we're dealing with nineteen ninety

1129
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 3: ninety eight. So I'm like, okay, my record, I went

1130
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 3: to New York because I got the Writer of the

1131
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 3: Year award. So now we're in nineteen ninety nine year

1132
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 3: and I got the writer It's hanging up in my

1133
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: room till this day, my easy e plaques all my work.

1134
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: So I get the Writer of the Year award to

1135
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 3: Lamar Sukie Fine Johnson. So I'm like, all of a sudden,

1136
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: that guy had got another artist named Lamar, which was

1137
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 3: a boy. So I'm like, okay, did he like give

1138
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: the publishing to that Lamar? It wouldn't add up. So

1139
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: he was like a very h People were afraid of.

1140
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: Him, so he said he was a founder of the crips. Yeah,

1141
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 4: people are afraid of him too.

1142
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 3: But he was in a wheelchair. So I'm like, I'm

1143
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 3: not afraid of him. But he had connections.

1144
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get what you say.

1145
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: So boom.

1146
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all of a sudden, the production company folds.

1147
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 3: We don't even there's no more Grand Jury Entertainment. He

1148
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: goes to mi Con Music, he switches the company name.

1149
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: I'm going off on ass cap like, I've been a

1150
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 3: writer with you guys for so many years. How do

1151
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 3: I have an asscap Writer of the Year. I'm registered

1152
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 3: Lorraine Lyrics under publishing. I'm telling you this is my voice.

1153
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: This is written by Lamar Johnson. Oh well, yeah, they

1154
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: never gave me a penny.

1155
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: So for all y'all entertainment attorneys reach out, there's gotta be.

1156
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: A Well that's why I say, you women don't know

1157
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: what it is to be up and down and hungry

1158
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 3: and broke and eating and broke and eating and broke

1159
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: and eating. So my worth I am a millionaire. Just

1160
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 3: to let you know my net worth. You know, they

1161
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: keep up with my network. So twenty years go by,

1162
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: I'm begging. They're lucky that I didn't become a drug addict.

1163
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 3: They're lucky that I didn't go crazy like the humiliation,

1164
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 3: but I am so strong. No lady could have their

1165
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 3: picture all over the billboards and the bus stop number

1166
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: one on the billboard, and about two years later you

1167
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 3: back at the bus stop.

1168
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: Oh and that's twenty years later.

1169
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: Twenty years later. I mean, yeah, thank goodness. I always

1170
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: went to school, so I do. I didn't go far,

1171
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 3: but I was almost to my bachelor's but I learned

1172
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: that when you study they start doing things online. You

1173
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: could just research get your own information. So I did

1174
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: receive my AA and journalism, and if I go take

1175
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: a couple of courses, I'll have my BA and broadcast.

1176
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: I never got the money, but.

1177
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: I didn't so I didn't get the physical money. So

1178
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: after twenty years, I'm like, now somebody gonna do something.

1179
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: So I wrote ASCAP a letter. I said, you know

1180
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 3: what an email I'm about to sue you guys. I've

1181
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: been a member of you guys. I have approved writer

1182
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 3: of the Year. You gave us man my credit because

1183
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: he claimed it ASCAP Publishing under Mike's rap, and then

1184
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 3: he went to BMI and claimed MI con music.

1185
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 4: So what did ascaps say to your email?

1186
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 3: So they got in touch with that company. They said, okay,

1187
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: we need a con track. Where's her signature?

1188
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: After twenty fucking years and the record then sold.

1189
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 4: All of this is really good h and they didn't

1190
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 4: have a contract, so.

1191
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: They were like, oh, it's in storage, we're gonna you know,

1192
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 3: like it was so far back. You never transferred your data.

1193
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 4: To files like so then what happened?

1194
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: So they never presented. They said, you have ninety days.

1195
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 3: If you do not come up with Lamar Johnson's signature,

1196
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: then we're gonna put everything back to her.

1197
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: Oh everything, Cause I was gonna say if it was me,

1198
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: I started drafting up my own fake contract two.

1199
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: Thousand and No, they couldn't prove any signature.

1200
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I would have tried.

1201
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: You tell me.

1202
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: About heartbreak twenty years. I had to go back to work.

1203
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: So did they so, but they said it will go

1204
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: go to you if they can't find approved.

1205
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: Finally, in two thoy nineteen, they gave me back all

1206
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: my publishing.

1207
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 2: So I mean I could pull it up on my

1208
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: phone with me.

1209
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: Now, that is the best story I've ever heard.

1210
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: I wanted to fight. I wanted to go to his

1211
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 3: door five and just I wanted to.

1212
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: Blow his head off.

1213
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 4: Did you end up getting it in?

1214
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 3: Well, I'm still dealing with Sony Music because some type

1215
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 3: of way they had licenseeing and I didn't get paid

1216
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 3: out of that. So Sony Music, yeah, they know who

1217
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 3: I am. But how do you how do you like?

1218
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1219
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: So have you considered just and this is my last

1220
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: question because we're over on time.

1221
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: I got a lot to say, but my MACARONI.

1222
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: Yo, I finished that whole magazine.

1223
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: It's good.

1224
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 4: It's soda, ain't good. My last question is ghostwriting.

1225
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: Are you have you considered ghost writing for some of

1226
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: the greats, the ghosts, because I mean you're very talented,

1227
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: or have you ghosts written?

1228
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 3: I used to write for Easy on his last album.

1229
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: I wrote a couple of songs on that album, so

1230
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 3: I would love I try to get the girls younger

1231
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 3: than me, Like if you use my flavor, you blow up.

1232
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 3: So then, like I don't know, I start saying there's

1233
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: no age limit, there's no time limit on greatness. So

1234
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 3: if Aretha Franklin want to come out after fifty years

1235
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 3: and do her a new song, she's gonna do it.

1236
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 3: If Patti LaBelle, she's gonna do it. So I'm like

1237
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 3: the Aretha Franklin a rap. So what I did was

1238
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: a Taylor Swift. Once they start giving me all my publishing,

1239
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 3: I re released Romeo and Juliet, and I want to

1240
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 3: thank all the youth, the younger people, the audience. Because

1241
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 3: I re released the same record. I didn't shoot a

1242
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: new video. That's why I'm like, who's coming? Nobody came

1243
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 3: for me? So evidently, Sony, you owe me some money

1244
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 3: for all these licenses with this record.

1245
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: So I'm getting down to that.

1246
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: But like I said, I have a rich spirit, so

1247
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 3: money could never make or break me because I am

1248
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 3: what I said, a creator. So it's like my spirit

1249
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 3: is so rich it always guided me to those physicians.

1250
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 3: And so I re released Romeo and Juliet. I'm at

1251
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: what five hundred eighty six thousand streams in eight months

1252
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: with no promotion independent, I get about nine hundred a

1253
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 3: month every month from Apple Spotify, you know, just extra income,

1254
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: which is more money than I ever made off of

1255
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 3: a number one record. Having did he shake my hand

1256
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: at Madison Square Gardens and telling me nice to meet

1257
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,959
Speaker 3: the lady who took my number one spot on the billboards.

1258
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 3: We're talking nineteen ninety nine Madison Square Gardens, Mariah Carey,

1259
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 3: like I've performed with them, the crazy perfect example.

1260
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 4: He just dropped a new record.

1261
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: So I'm listening to lot to hearing where you're going

1262
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: next for all y'all listeners. Soakie, can you tell all

1263
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: our listeners how to keep up with you, how to

1264
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: follow you and support you. It's so to say it today,

1265
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: it's so easy.

1266
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 3: You guys, just stay tuned to what's real, what's popping,

1267
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 3: and what's rare.

1268
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: You can really google.

1269
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 3: Me f y k E, f y he and E.

1270
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 3: Don't spell it with an eye. They do it on purpose.

1271
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: It just irks me. Silk E fine, not the conceded.

1272
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 4: And what's what's your Instagram tag?

1273
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: Silk E fine? It's only one way to spell it.

1274
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 3: I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook, I'm on.

1275
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: Twitter, and that's whis no eyes.

1276
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 3: That's wise no eyes because I am not conceved.

1277
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: And then can you just for the fun of it,

1278
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I have to try this just because I

1279
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: love hip hop?

1280
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 2: Right?

1281
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 4: Can you close out.

1282
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: With like a twenty second okay, because rap close out

1283
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: a twenty second rap for eating whalle broke in this

1284
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: whole situation.

1285
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, live with my girl Coleen, and I

1286
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: was eating while broke. Don't trip West Coast. Don't break

1287
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: your throat. I gotta hit him with a high note. Yeah,

1288
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: because you know it's murdered. They roh huh. I'm trying

1289
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 3: to figure out what happened to my boys. Poking easy.

1290
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: You know I'm still making noise. I don't care what

1291
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 3: they say, I am creativity. I'm'a do it born and

1292
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 3: raised in LA and i'm'a keep eating. And I might

1293
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: stay bro but my spirit is rich.

1294
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 2: Baby.

1295
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 3: I'm the utmost, but I'm really rich and I'm not materialistic.

1296
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 3: I kick it with Tuna Mac. Get it a.

1297
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 4: Peace out, y'all. Thanks for listening. Tuning in for more

1298
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 4: Eating while Broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect, Visit

1299
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,200
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01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,240
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