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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, January twenty seven, twenty twenty one, Season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number ninety five. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage

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Speaker 1: studios at the Star. We are presented by Geico. I

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Speaker 1: got Nick in here with me, I got Amber in

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Speaker 1: here with me. David's still remote, so he probably feels

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Speaker 1: a little left out, but it's it's feeling a little

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Speaker 1: more like like normal, having all three of us together

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Speaker 1: and being able to talk a little Cowboys football. Here

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Speaker 1: for a little bit of time with you guys today.

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Speaker 1: Today we're gonna focus in on the offense. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a series here and over the next few shows,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna dive in a little deeper on each position. Today,

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Speaker 1: starting with the offense, we'll get to the defense and

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Speaker 1: a future show. But we'll go through each of the positions.

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Speaker 1: I have two or three questions in each category that

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Speaker 1: we all will discuss and see what our thoughts are

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Speaker 1: on this offense and where it stands and how the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys move forward going into twenty twenty two. How's everybody

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Speaker 1: doing today? Good? We're good, and we're good. Awesome. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's jump in. And as I looked at the offense,

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Speaker 1: as we thought this all was going at the moment

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Speaker 1: that we saw Dak Prescott on the field at AT

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Speaker 1: and T Stadium, they actually ended the season offensively right

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the pack. They were fourteenth in

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Speaker 1: total offense. Uh. The interesting part is they were eighth

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Speaker 1: in passing offense. They ended up with averaging two hundred

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Speaker 1: and I think it's probably no surprise to any of us.

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Speaker 1: quarterback position. Now, assuming Andy Dalton's value is too high

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Nick, No, I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 1: Here's why we're not going there. We talked about it

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Speaker 1: to the last minute. Dave, I don't think it's hard

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Speaker 1: So no, there's absolutely no way that I see them

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Speaker 1: doing that and it no no, okay, Dave, I'd straight

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Speaker 1: up don't think it's possible. Like Nick said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: assuming you're somehow paying Dak Prescott, whether tag or contract.

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Speaker 1: You know the cap. We all know the CAP's not

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Speaker 1: my point is if Andy's price is too high, then

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Speaker 1: and it goes all the way to July, and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe a deal gets done, maybe it doesn't. In my mind,

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Speaker 1: if this team doesn't have this figured out by like

431
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Speaker 1: mid April, then it's just a catastrophic failure of organizational

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Speaker 1: direction for a lot of reasons. Because again, you got

433
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Speaker 1: a top ten draft pick, You got a chance to

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Speaker 1: draft a future quarterback if that's what you need to do.

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Speaker 1: You got a chance to pursue more. There are more

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Speaker 1: quality quarterbacks available this year, whether through trade or free agency,

437
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Speaker 1: than like any year I can think of. So whether

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Speaker 1: it's Dak Prescott or somebody else, they have a unique

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Speaker 1: opportunity to set themselves up for the future, and if

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Speaker 1: they don't make that decision in time to take advantage

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Speaker 1: of it, then they're crazy. I mean, if you if

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Speaker 1: you let this thing play out all the way to

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Speaker 1: July and don't get a deal done, and then you're

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Speaker 1: back here with a quarterback on a one year deal

445
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Speaker 1: and this time he can enter free agency in twenty

446
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Speaker 1: twenty two, that's a disaster. So I just I have

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Speaker 1: to believe that this is all good and get resolved

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Speaker 1: in the next eight weeks. Yeah, it has to. I

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Speaker 1: just can't. I can't see a logical reason why it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be. Interesting. Thing there is that the leverage as

451
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Speaker 1: this thing goes on diminishes for the Cowboys even more

452
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Speaker 1: because with every quarterback that's lost in free agency that

453
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Speaker 1: could have been someone they went after here, with every

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Speaker 1: pick that happens in the draft that could have been

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Speaker 1: a quarterback that they would have drafted, each one of

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Speaker 1: those guys becoming unavailable makes it gives them less leverage

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Speaker 1: in talking the deck, like they could always enter the

458
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459
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Speaker 1: got other options. When those options are gone, then it's

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Speaker 1: a lot harder to make that argument. R Right, March

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Speaker 1: ninth is the key, right there, you get it done,

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Speaker 1: and to you know, if you have to tag him,

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Speaker 1: I think you still tag him, right, But then you

464
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Speaker 1: they may go and sign somebody else and try to

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take our first break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It is the second segment of the Break

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Speaker 1: Life from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star.

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Speaker 1: We are presented by Geico. We're going through the offense.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about specific positions and players. We talked about

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. As Nick reminded us, we did nothing

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Speaker 1: to clarify what should be happening at that position. We

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Speaker 1: will wait and have that discussion at a later date

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Speaker 1: when the Cowboys make some decisions at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: I want to move to the wide receiver position, though,

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Speaker 1: and I want to start with the top three wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: You've got Cooper, Gallop and Lamb. I want each of

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Speaker 1: you guys to for me. I want you to rank

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Speaker 1: the three based upon how they performed this year. One, two, three, Dave,

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Speaker 1: let's start with you, Cooper, Lamb, Gallop. That's not a

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Speaker 1: knock on Gallop. They were all pretty damn good, especially

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Speaker 1: considering they didn't have their starter starting quarterback for most

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Speaker 1: of the year. You know, he wasn't perfect, but I

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Speaker 1: can't say enough about how I impressed I was with Amari,

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Speaker 1: you know, setting a career high for catches, hitting a

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Speaker 1: thou and yards. Had very few down games, and one

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Speaker 1: of them was the night that Ben Denucci was playing

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Speaker 1: in a windstorm. So I just thought I thought he

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Speaker 1: had a great year. CD was awesome. Would have been

539
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: better if he'd had Dak consistency issues, drops and stuff

540
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Speaker 1: like that, but so did Mike. Mike had a couple

541
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Speaker 1: of really off games where he just couldn't seem to

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Speaker 1: hang onto the ball um. But in general, they were

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Speaker 1: all really good. But that's the order i'd put him in. Nick,

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Speaker 1: I just keep it just like that. I don't I mean,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep this thing moving. I wouldn't have disagree with

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Speaker 1: anything of that order. I don't disagree with CD. He

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Speaker 1: was a little bit inconsistent at times. You expect that

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Speaker 1: as a rookie a Mari. You know, it was MARII

549
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Speaker 1: was good. I mean, he looked at the numbers of

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Speaker 1: the numbers show that it was good. It was sometimes

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Speaker 1: you're like, wow, he did that. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of unforgetta forgettable at times, but I mean the

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Speaker 1: numbers were there. And so in that order there, all

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Speaker 1: three had their games, they had their moments. That would

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Speaker 1: be my order too, Yeah, same order. Was there a

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Speaker 1: game where the three of them were just bad a

557
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Speaker 1: single Yeah, I can't remember, but it's like the Nucci game.

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Speaker 1: That that's why they got any offense in that game.

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Speaker 1: That game, Yeah, and I don't know if cut like

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Speaker 1: six or seven passes because there was just a little quick,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe the Red Washington game whatever, the first

562
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Speaker 1: one went in the rain. It was Red, you know,

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Speaker 1: the redhead quarterback player. But I thinking for the most

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Speaker 1: part for the whole season, I mean, they were pretty

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Speaker 1: h consistent wise, like even you guys mentioned Michael Gallup

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Speaker 1: or even see the being a little inconsistent at times.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's where the other wide receiver pulled

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Speaker 1: in and did their jobs, so that that was just

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Speaker 1: h a nice break in that aspect of the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver compared to the previous year, like where we were

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Speaker 1: just all a wide receiver by comedie and trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out what was happening there at the position. So

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Speaker 1: just in general to how people that you can't rely

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Speaker 1: on if someone is having a bad day, you still

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Speaker 1: have two o their guys that can pull the weight

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Speaker 1: and do their jobs. So yeah, same order. I think

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Speaker 1: Cooper did sneak up on me. He's so forgettable to me,

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Speaker 1: But at the same time he did such a nice job.

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Speaker 1: And then Cee Lamb flashy plays. Obviously you cannot he

580
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: cannot go unnotice unnoticed on the field. I did feel

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Speaker 1: that at times they were trying to force the ball

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Speaker 1: on him, a little too much at certain games. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember. I have such a bad memory when it

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Speaker 1: comes to specific games, but I remember there was one

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Speaker 1: game where it was just like they kept trying to

586
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: force it to him and it just wasn't working, and

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00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: they just kept going to him. But I just think

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Speaker 1: that the three of them create a very very nice

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Speaker 1: balance for this offense. Yeah, I think it's interesting, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys pointed out how good of season

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Speaker 1: that Cooper had because everybody was talking last year about

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Speaker 1: his struggles, particularly on the road, and I thought the

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Speaker 1: best thing I could say about him this year was

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Speaker 1: his consistency across the board. It seemed like every game

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Speaker 1: or most games, he was showing up and providing productivity

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. I'll ask this next question, and I

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Speaker 1: want to put it in context. You look at the

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Speaker 1: two teams in the Super Bowl and you see that

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Speaker 1: they are offenses where they have multiple skill position players

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Speaker 1: that are at the top, like really really great skill

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Speaker 1: position players. And so when you look at this Cowboys team,

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk this season where people

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Speaker 1: are like, hey, can you take up, you know, Michael

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Speaker 1: Gallop and trade him off because you already got great

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Speaker 1: other skill position players. Do you guys think it's important

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Speaker 1: looking at what's working right now in the NFL, is

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Speaker 1: it important to keep these three together and have that

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Speaker 1: number of really talented skill position players, or do you

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Speaker 1: think that it would be a better decision for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys maybe to look to take one of these guys,

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Speaker 1: and again, it doesn't have to be Michael Gallop, any

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Speaker 1: of these guys and decide, hey, let's see if we

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Speaker 1: can move this guy and get some other pieces that

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Speaker 1: can help us on other parts of our teams where

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Speaker 1: we may need some value. Nicholas start, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna if you're gonna judge the teams that

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Speaker 1: are in the Super Bowl and even in the final

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Speaker 1: four teams conversation. No, well, yeah, quarterback, you know, without

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Speaker 1: a doubt. But also I hate to say it, you know,

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Speaker 1: because this this is the situation the Cowboys are in.

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Speaker 1: But you know, look at Buffalo's running back. Look at

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs running back. Look at the Bucks running back.

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Speaker 1: Look Chiefs got a running Who Hilaire was h Is

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Speaker 1: he playing? He was the first round pick? Is he

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Speaker 1: played played last week? Okay? But he's not the difference

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Speaker 1: maker for them like he Yeah, but he's a good

627
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Speaker 1: running player, a good player, Aaron Jones, a good player

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay and all that. That's not right why

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Speaker 1: they're winning though, So that particular case, so those four

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Speaker 1: teams are kind of showing it there they're going to

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Speaker 1: Are you trying to say this, because we're going to

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Speaker 1: get to that conversation. Are you saying the running back

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Speaker 1: here is the reason why they would be winning. Well,

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Speaker 1: that they didn't win. I know what I'm saying. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that when they get back to winning that

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Speaker 1: he would be the reason. I'll answer your question, mat

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Speaker 1: the question. I'm not I'm not messing up these three receivers.

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Speaker 1: I got these three. They're they're good. They open up

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Speaker 1: things for the title. Yeah, you got me confused. What

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Speaker 1: are you trying to say with the running back versus

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Speaker 1: the receivers that look like your face? Stop? I'm trying

642
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Speaker 1: to say that the trying to say that the running

643
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: back position in those four teams, that's not really the

644
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: difference maker of them. Is that where the league is going?

645
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: Is that where the cowboys are going. If the cowboys

646
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: are they gonna have to try to do something in

647
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: part ways with the running back. I'm not parting ways

648
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: with these receivers. These receivers are good. They made my

649
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: tight end who somebody wanted to be cut off this team,

650
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: actually a Pro Bowl candidate. So these three receivers opened

651
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: things up. I'm not cutting them, We're not trading them.

652
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the running back conversation later, probably

653
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: in the next next week show. But one thing I

654
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: will note, and I want you guys to go look

655
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: at this. Go to look at the rushing numbers this

656
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: year across the NFL. There were only two running backs

657
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: they have more than eleven hundred and sixty nine yards.

658
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: Think about that, eleven or six nine yards. It's not

659
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: a huge number as far as rushers are concerned. This

660
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: year there were only two that had more than that.

661
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: Because there eleven sixty four I mean, like, no, honestly,

662
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: well that was because that was the highest one next

663
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 1: to those other two. My point is, my point is

664
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: I do think the NFL is changing, and I do

665
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: think what you're starting to see more I think it

666
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: preached your point. I think is that this is becoming

667
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: more and more and you hear it all the time,

668
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: but it really is starting to see you're starting to

669
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: see it in the numbers. This is a passing league,

670
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: and this is also a league where it's very rare

671
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: to find one running back on a team that's productive.

672
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: Most teams have a couple running backs that they use

673
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: in tandem to be able to do what they want

674
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: to do. Him Europe, I'm not ready to have that

675
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: kind of conversation. I still think that Zig is very

676
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: valuable and having a running back like him, and again

677
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: and again, I get it he wasn't necessarily great last year,

678
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: but that was just one year, and I'm still hoping

679
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: that he can come back this year and go back

680
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: to what he used to be prior to twenty twenty.

681
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: But I still think that this team, even though they

682
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: have three great white receivers, they still need to be

683
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: able to run the ball effectively. And I don't think

684
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: that you can just do that with Tony Polar, although

685
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: he showed that, but that's not really what you're asking.

686
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: You're asking him about these three wide receivers. I would

687
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: not trade them. It's just it's like one of those

688
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: scenarios where you finally have an area of the team

689
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: that it's working, that it's good. Why mess with it,

690
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: and I get it. You're trying to add value at

691
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: other positions of need. But at the same time, it's like, men,

692
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: let's just not create another unbalanced in there. You know,

693
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: you could technically trade them and get something for them

694
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: that you could definitely use on defense, for sure, But

695
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: at the same time, I just I don't want to

696
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: touch them. They're doing good. You don't need to work

697
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: on anyone's contract. No one's is going out of contract

698
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: next year, so let's just enjoy it for another year

699
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: at least and just take advantage of them. Three Again, Dave,

700
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: I hate what I'm about to say. I want to

701
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: be clear. Michael Gallup is like one of my absolutely

702
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: favorite people on this team. I love the guy. I

703
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: think he's a really I think he's a really underrated

704
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: player and a really nice guy. But if you're you're

705
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: talking about Michael Gallop, I know you said it could

706
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: be any of them. No, it can't Ceedee lamb Is.

707
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: He has all pro potential on a rookie contract. You

708
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: don't trade that. And Amari Cooper not only is the

709
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: under contract, which makes him harder to trade. I don't

710
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: think you can underestimate the impact that he's had on

711
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: this team. I mean, maybe Dak would have taken these

712
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: leaps without him, but it doesn't seem like a coincidence

713
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: that he started taking these leaps when Amari showed up.

714
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: He is uniquely positioned to be both a fantastic possession

715
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: receiver as well as a home run threat. His separation

716
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: ability is unique even among NFL receivers. I'm not trading him,

717
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: so you're basically talking about Michael Gallop. I don't love

718
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: the idea of trading him because I agree with everything

719
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: they said, but I think you at least need to

720
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: be open to the possibility. Because he's only got one

721
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: year left on his deal, you probably can't keep him.

722
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: It's hard to say that for sure. We'll see what happens,

723
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: but you know Dak. If Dak signs, he'll lead up

724
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the cap you got other guys to

725
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: worry about. It's not realistic to think you can pay

726
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: three of those guys big deals. So if somebody wanted

727
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: to offer me something good for him, a third round pick, maybe,

728
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: I mean I would be I would I would jump

729
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: to trade him for a second round pick. That would

730
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: be fun. And you can I mean you can just

731
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: turn around and draft another one. Mike was pick number

732
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: eighty one in the draft. We saw look at the

733
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean, look at how many amazing receivers came out

734
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: of this last draft, and this year's class looks to

735
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: be kind of similar. Like there's gonna be a bunch

736
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: of stud receivers in this year's class. So if somebody

737
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: offered me something good for Michael Gallop, I would trade him.

738
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: But I don't think you have to by any means. Like,

739
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm totally fine letting him play out his contract. But

740
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: if somebody offered me something really good for him, I'm

741
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: here for it. Let me add to this port. The

742
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: thing that's unique about these these three receivers is the

743
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: fact that you know, especially Gallop Gallop still they and

744
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: I agree with Dave Gallops the one that would be

745
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: tradeable in this situation. He's the guy that's like the

746
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: least diva receiver on the team. Like he said the

747
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: other day, I had one hundred and thirty yards in

748
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 1: the first half. Hey, it was about time for someone

749
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: else to get some Hey, we all can't get our

750
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: numbers here. I mean, that's where it becomes a problem

751
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: when you have three receivers and they all kind of

752
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: want theirs and there they act like their friends and

753
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: now they're cool, but really they you know, they wonder

754
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: who's getting the ball and all that. I don't really

755
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: since that happening at all on this team, and I

756
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: think that's a good thing. When you have three guys

757
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: and they're not really fighting over the ball and they

758
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: get along. I do. I want to trade them for

759
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: a third round pick. The second round you'd have to listen,

760
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: but a third round pick, I mean, if you just

761
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: throw in the way the Cowboys are drafting, you get

762
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: rid of him. So now now you got to figure

763
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: something else out. And who did you get? You got

764
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: a Neville Gallimore, a Michael Gallup, another, you know, a

765
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern, Jordan Lewis, Malie Collins, Jaz Green, Terence Williams,

766
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: J J. Wilcox. I mean, I'm just saying, you know,

767
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 1: you have something really good special here, and you're gonna

768
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: trade them so you can get this third round safety

769
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: or corner might be good. Maybe he's really gonna help you.

770
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. The second round we'll talk, you know,

771
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: but third I'll probably just be good with, you know,

772
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: because you won with the third rounder right, playing better

773
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: than a third round pick. Yeah, you know what I

774
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: would say about the wide receiver position, though, I do

775
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: think that players are coming into the league a little

776
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: more accustomed to the idea that they don't have to

777
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: be the only stud wide receiver on the team. You

778
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: look at you look at college now. And I saw

779
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 1: a picture the other day of that Alabama wide receiver

780
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: group last year when they still had guys that went

781
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: in the first round this year, and then all the

782
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna go in the first round, including

783
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: by the way, a Heisman Trophy winner, and they were

784
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: all in the same wide receiver room. Right. It's it's like,

785
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: I think they're getting used to the idea that, hey,

786
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: it's okay if there are more than one of us,

787
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: because that means we're all going to get a shot,

788
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 1: and we're all gonna get a chance because they're gonna

789
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to somebody else at some point, right,

790
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: And so I think that probably is a little different

791
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: than what you and I grew up on when it

792
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: comes to football, where you had one stud wide receiver

793
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: and then everybody else is just there to compliment him. Right,

794
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: That's not the game anymore credit thing. He came from

795
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: Colorado State. I bet he was. He was right, Yeah,

796
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: he was, he was. I would assume he's just got

797
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: a good it's just a good mindset. It's it's you know,

798
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: they're those guys. I mean we saw the clip. I

799
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: mean they're talking about. What were they talking about on

800
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: the one of those clips we had on the sidelines

801
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: sound from the sideline they were talking about, Yeah, something,

802
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: it was something. Yeah, it was just like it was

803
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: like what kind of pie kind? Yeah? All right, oh yeah,

804
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: what favored pie? He goes And that's the problem you like,

805
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: PuF said, that's your problem. Oh thinks let's go right,

806
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: all right, last question, half of you guys on the

807
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: wide receivers, Both Cedric Wilson and Noah Brown are free

808
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: agents after this At this point, Brown will be an

809
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: understricted free agent, Wilson a restricted free agent. Uh. They

810
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: both had some moments this year where I thought they

811
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: contributed to the team in very positive ways. If you

812
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: could only keep one, which one would you opt to

813
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: to keep? Let's start with you Ample, I think I

814
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: would want to keep, uh Cedric, just you know, with

815
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, I mean he's been an interesting guy. He

816
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: was someone that caught my attention ever since he stepped

817
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: on the field. I think he has the ability, but

818
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: he just he likes that consistency. He hasn't been able

819
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: to give you, at least what I expected him to

820
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: give me. And I know they don't use him every

821
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: single time. But if let's say one of these wide

822
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: receivers gets hurt and you gotta put a guy out there,

823
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: I would rather have Cedric Wilson just because of the

824
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: things that I've seen from him. And again, he hasn't

825
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: been the most consistent guy either, but his ability down

826
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: the field and the him being longer just attracts me

827
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: more as to what I want from a wide receiver

828
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: and the things that he can possibly do for you.

829
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Cedric Wilson is a guy that he made

830
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: a huge leap last year. We saw it. He got

831
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: along and I got along. But I mean like he

832
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: had a good rapport with Dak he saw that was

833
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: in the offseason that carried over to training camp, carried

834
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: over to the game. He does a lot of different things,

835
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: don't you know. As long as he's not running fake

836
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: punts on fourth and ten back there, I mean as

837
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: long as you're not doing that. I mean he left

838
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: the team in quarterback rating, in percentage, you know, I

839
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: mean he does other things. Uh yeah, he's the guy there.

840
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Noah Brown. Listen, it's been it's a good experiment.

841
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: It just didn't work. And the very first minute of

842
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: free agency, he's going to be on a flight to

843
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: LaGuardia Airport in New York and he's gonna probably sign

844
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: with the Giants. That's what's gonna happen because that coaching

845
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: staff loved him and that's probably where he's gonna go. Ye. Nick,

846
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dave, I mean everything they said. But also

847
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: just keep in mind Cedric's restricted, which means all you

848
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: have to do is put the You could put the

849
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: tender for the round, so it's first round, second round round.

850
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Originally drafted, Cedric was a sixth round. Oh yeah, keep

851
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: him on a one year. Keep keep him on a

852
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: one year deal for very very cheap. And I think

853
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: that just makes too much sense. The reason why I

854
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Speaker 1: say that is it never seems to be. Usually it's

855
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Speaker 1: it's the original round, and it's it's not you didn't

856
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Speaker 1: draft them, Yeah right, it's usually an undrafted free agent,

857
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: but he was a draft pick, which so you'll take

858
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Speaker 1: a six. I mean if somebody wants to sign him

859
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860
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Speaker 1: not gonna match that deal. So and by the way,

861
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862
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: So whatever happens beyond that is kind of just gravy. Right, Well,

863
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's a question we could have asked. Two

864
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Speaker 1: is okay, let's say that the let's say you did

865
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Speaker 1: part ways with Gallop. Are you you like Cedric Wilson

866
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: enough to slide him into that role? Let me ask

867
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: you this, what you saw early in the year he

868
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: was making a lot of those big plays when Dak

869
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: was here. Didn't seem to make a lot of those

870
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: once Dak was no longer here. So do you think

871
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: that maybe that's the key? We go back to that

872
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: first go back into house, let's go and you make

873
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,320
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Speaker 1: think Brandy Dalton's not invited him into his house to

875
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: go out there and throw a ball? I don't know.

876
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: It just doesn't seem like he was as explosive as

877
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: he was with sex. You know. All right, Let's let's

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Speaker 1: We've been trying to do this now for about two

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924
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Speaker 1: we can get some questions in here. Amber. What do

925
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Speaker 1: you have? Well, I had a question about the defense

926
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Speaker 1: versus the offense and how much money the Cowboys have

927
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Speaker 1: invested on one versus the other, which led me to

928
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Speaker 1: think of this whole idea that I'm gonna propose to

929
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Speaker 1: you guys and see what you think. I'm pretty sure

930
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Speaker 1: you guys are going to disagree. But you know how

931
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: years ago you used to say defenses one super Bowls

932
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: and one championships, right, and now we're seeing a league

933
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: where it's more on the offense. And what those guys

934
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: are doing with the Cowboys having invested so much money

935
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: on offense, is this maybe a time where they should

936
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Speaker 1: be taking a turn and trying to invest more on

937
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: their defense instead and reconstructing that to where now their

938
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: power area is their defense. So that way, maybe maybe

939
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: we start seeing them win more games than what we've

940
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Speaker 1: seen in what the past five over five years? What

941
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: do you guys think? And we know history repeats itself,

942
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: so you never know when the league is going to

943
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: turn back to going into having powerful defenses win championships.

944
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: You could argue, I mean that these teams that are

945
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: in the championship game, I mean they have good quarterbacks

946
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: and they have some really good defenses too. Those defenses

947
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: actually helped them. But I mean, I don't know if

948
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: you could say that's the main reason of what they do.

949
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: I just think it's a cycle. I think the Cowboys

950
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: need to start drafting, I mean drafting for defense, drafting,

951
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, with their top pick, maybe the top couple

952
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: of picks, you know, and the guys that they have

953
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Speaker 1: hit in the first round, if they picked in the

954
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: first round, haven't always connected, you know. Mo Claiborne didn't

955
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: didn't work out, Taco didn't work out. The jury is

956
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: still out on Layton Vander It's I mean, it's worked

957
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 1: out for a while, but if he if he continues

958
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: to get hurt, then you're gonna say that it hasn't.

959
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: So they need to not only draft I think defense,

960
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: but you know they gotta they gotta hit a home

961
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: run with this pick. Yeah, you know, I'll say this.

962
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't think this is something that's cyclical that it

963
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: will go back at some point to defense is unless

964
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: the league makes out a priority. Because this is not

965
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: by happenstance that the league has become offensive become an

966
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: offensive league. It's because the league wanted it to be

967
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: an offensive league, so they change the rules to make

968
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: it more slanted in favor of the offense. And that's

969
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: why the offenses have become so explosive, and that's why

970
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: defenses don't. You cannot convince me that defensive players are

971
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: just worse now than they were fifteen years ago. I

972
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: think what's happened is they just made all the rules

973
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: to where it's very hard to be able to play

974
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: defense and not get a penalty. And so that all

975
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about the hits to the head

976
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. That's about player safety,

977
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: but it affects the defense and their ability. Nick and

978
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: you and I grew up on Ronnie Lott, right, it

979
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: was a whole different brand of football going across the middle.

980
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: Every receiver couldn't do it because it took a certain

981
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: level of crazy to be able to want to run

982
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: across the middle and catch a ball because you knew

983
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: you were going to get lit up. So the game

984
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: has changed and it favors the offense. I don't think

985
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: that's going back anytime soon, So I think this is

986
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: going to continue to be an offensive league. I think

987
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: the one thing you'll notice, Nick, and you're talking about

988
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: these defenses, defenses I think that are successful in today's game.

989
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: They're opportunistic. So you want to have yourself somebody in

990
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: the secondary who can get you some turnovers when the

991
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: opportunities present themselves. You want to have at least one

992
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: guy on your defensive line that can create problems for

993
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: the offense. You're Aaron Donald's, you know, Chris Jones is

994
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: a guy in Kansas City. You want to find that

995
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: one guy on your defensive front who can really disrupt

996
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: things when when there are opportunities to disrupt things and

997
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: in critical moments in games. But by and large, you

998
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: want your defense is just basically hold the opponent to

999
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: somewhere around twenty to twenty three points and have an

1000
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: offense that can score more than that, Right, that's today's game.

1001
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: And so I think, yeah, the Cowboys gonna have to

1002
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: add some some some pieces. But I also think it's

1003
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: it's extremely important. It's more important for them to make

1004
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: sure that they can maintain an offense I can put

1005
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: up a lot of points, because you just can't win

1006
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: without it, in my opinion. I'll just also add to

1007
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: that that And I mean, this isn't a this is

1008
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,479
Speaker 1: not a it's not a blanket statement. That's completely true.

1009
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: Like right off the top of my head. You know,

1010
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: Green Bay signed Preston Smith and Zadarius Smith and free

1011
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: agency Kansas City, you know, Tyron Matthew was an amazing

1012
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: free agent signing for the Chiefs. But for the most part,

1013
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: like good defenses are built through the draft anyway. You know,

1014
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: people talk about that San Francisco defense that got to

1015
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year. Yeah, they signed Richard Sherman,

1016
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: but the strength of that defense was that disgusting defensive line,

1017
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: which was all draft picks, you know, for the most part. Yeah,

1018
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, you mentioned Chris Jones in Kansas City,

1019
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: another draft pick. Like, I just think we spent a

1020
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: whole segment talking about the legion of Boom in Seattle.

1021
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: The vast majority of that defense was just amazing draft picks.

1022
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, obviously the Cowboys defense needs to improve,

1023
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to ignore the offense for the

1024
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: sake of it. You got to have a good quarterback,

1025
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: and yeah, they just need a draft better on defense

1026
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: starting in April. Now, another question you talked to him

1027
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: about free agency, and this is on free agency. If

1028
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: you were to not look at the list of the

1029
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys current free agent guys, because that's pretty long right now,

1030
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: but if you had to sign a free agent veteran

1031
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: guy to the Cowboys from the outside, what a position

1032
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: would you be looking at the most? Right now that

1033
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, we definitely need a veteran guy that

1034
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: can come in here and help instead of just draft

1035
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: for me, for me, I mean, age, you're gonna love this,

1036
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: I would probably say safety because they need they need them.

1037
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: They don't care about safety. They we know that. You

1038
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: asked me. You ask me, you asked me what I

1039
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: would say, not what they would do. Um, they they

1040
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: need one. I think it's kind of unrealistic to think

1041
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: that you're gonna find one immediately in the draft. I

1042
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: don't love the options that are available at safety, um

1043
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: at the top of the draft anyway. Obviously you can

1044
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: find some better ones later on. But you know, you

1045
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: think I mean, right off the top of my head,

1046
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: one that makes sense as Keane O'Neil, just because he's

1047
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's draft pick. Um. And and again, like we

1048
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: gotta be realistic, like there, this isn't gonna be a

1049
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: team that breaks the bank in free agency. They can't

1050
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: afford it and they hate doing it anyway, So you know,

1051
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: justin Simmons up in Denver would be fun, but I

1052
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: don't think that's realistic. Um. But yeah, like a guy

1053
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: like a Keyan O'Neil comes to mind, like I said,

1054
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: mainly because he played with Quinn for so long careful

1055
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: because you know, um, Mike McCarthy's draft pick was uh haha,

1056
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: Clinton Dix, you know. And I'm just saying, and we

1057
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of, oh, it would be a good, good,

1058
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: you know pick, and it just he just wasn't ready,

1059
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it just wasn't. He wasn't a guy,

1060
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: and he didn't never never played right. He ever he

1061
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: played a game. He got cut before the season got here. Yeah,

1062
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: he didn't make the team. Yeah, I want to throw

1063
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: a name to you guys. I want to I'd be

1064
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: interesting to see what you guys to think about this.

1065
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: I saw this name pop up and it made me think.

1066
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: And they were talking about him as though he's a

1067
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: free agent, so excuse me if he's not. But what

1068
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: would you think about a guy like Richard Sherman. Uh.

1069
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: He obviously has played with with with with quinn in um.

1070
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: He is, by all accounts one of the better cornerbacks

1071
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: in the league over the last ten years. Um. Obviously

1072
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: at the end of his career. But you got a

1073
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: young guy that's coming up that you may want to

1074
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: maybe have him around, A guy like a Richard Sherman.

1075
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: What do you guys think about something like that? If

1076
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had that opportunity to get a Richard Sherman,

1077
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I mean, I think

1078
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: he uh and and in the media, we all would

1079
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: love it. You know, he's amazing. He's one of the

1080
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: smartest guys in the NFL. UM. You know, he's he

1081
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: really is. I mean, and and and I think that

1082
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: that savviness, that that those smarts has helped him become,

1083
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, a really good player for a long time. Um.

1084
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: I didn't notice though, in that game that they played

1085
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, he wasn't. Oh no, he's not

1086
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. He's got the Richard Sherman. Yeah. But um,

1087
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: if he's willing to do that, you know, not all

1088
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: the veteran players are willing to be that guy. Know

1089
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: that helps the other ones. But if he is, he's

1090
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: willing to do that, yeah, I think so. I think

1091
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: he could be a good player. I mean, you know,

1092
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Carr was like that for a while, and he's

1093
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: a better He's way better than Brandon Carr. But I'm

1094
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: talking about he was kind of that player and helped

1095
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: those younger guys as long as they treat it as

1096
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: a long term plan and rather than a solution, like

1097
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: don't sign Richard Sherman and be like, Okay, we're we're

1098
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: set at cornerback for the next two or three years.

1099
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: Like sign Richard Sherman and then go spend your first

1100
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: or second round pick on a cornerback and Richard Sherman

1101
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: can hopefully help him, you know, not just learn the defense,

1102
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: but learn how to be a pro. Yeah. I love that,

1103
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: as long as it's part of a larger plan. Yeah,

1104
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: because they already had that. They had it last year

1105
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: with shan Lee, like they had that guy. Yeah, you

1106
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: know that that isn't you know? He's a he's a

1107
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: veteran guy, he's there for presidents. He's kind of a

1108
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: coach on the field type of thing. So, but you

1109
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: talked about how how smart Richard Sherman is, and I

1110
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: think it's both on the field and off the field.

1111
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: I think the interesting thing here is you got a

1112
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator coming in. He will probably want somebody

1113
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: on the field who understands what they're trying to do.

1114
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: And I think Richard Sherman or a guy like that

1115
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: you talked about Kean O'Neil, same thing. You're bringing somebody

1116
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: like that into the mix. Is just somebody that can

1117
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: kind of reiterate what the coach is thinking that he

1118
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: may not have time to say, so that the other

1119
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: guys on the field kind of know what the defense

1120
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: is trying to do in a particular. And I wouldn't

1121
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: say this about all cornerbacks because I know people think

1122
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: this a lot, but you have to be smart to

1123
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: do it, but I think he is a cornerback as

1124
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: he's kind of aging a little bit and he's still

1125
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: got a good size to him. I think he could

1126
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: maybe rotate into a safety role. We've seen it, Rod

1127
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: Woodson type of guys. This guy, but you have to

1128
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: be smart enough to kind of understand people think because

1129
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: you've lost a step that you could just play safety.

1130
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: Doesn't work that way, but I think it could with

1131
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: a guy like him. So I'm curious if he you know,

1132
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: that's really interesting. I don't. I don't know if you

1133
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: know how he would feel about that, but that would

1134
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: be an interesting and interesting concept. I certainly would think

1135
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: it would be worth looking at, investigating if you think

1136
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: he could do it. Bring it in anyone, any veteran guy,

1137
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: don't care, just come on over. We need you. The

1138
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: next question we know with the changes in the changing

1139
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, and we talked about the linebacker position

1140
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith him possibly turning into a better player under

1141
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn. Who know, we'll see, but after that, higher

1142
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: has the priority of linebacker changed for you as far

1143
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: as how much help you need their linebacker? Specifically looking

1144
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: at how bad the run defense was this year and

1145
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: even last year. In general, I don't know, Dave. I

1146
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: think I know more about the quarterback was just then

1147
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: than I know about the linebacker position. I mean, linebackers.

1148
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't have any clue of what they're going to do.

1149
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: There is Sean Lee coming back? I saw, you know, Yeah,

1150
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, we see things we're not always supposed

1151
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: to see. But whatever it was, it could mean. That

1152
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: could mean one hundred different things. Yeah, exactly is Layton

1153
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: vander is going to come back? Is Jalen Smith even

1154
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: on the team. I don't know anything about linebacker. Let's

1155
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: just assume that everybody that's under contract stays under contract.

1156
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's only like, that's only two guys, one

1157
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: of whom Layton has had injury issues for two straight

1158
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: years and one of whom Jalen Smith had the worst

1159
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: year of his career. No, I don't feel better about

1160
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: it at all. I don't. I wouldn't want to spend

1161
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: the tenth overall pick on a linebacker. But you know,

1162
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: just getting into my draft study, I'm starting to find

1163
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: a lot of intriguing guys that might be there in

1164
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: the second or third round that I'm like, hell, yeah,

1165
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: sign me up. Even if he's not an immediate starter

1166
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: that say, okay with me, So no, I I feel

1167
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: like it's a very big priority. Maybe not a first

1168
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: round priority, but definitely still a priority. Even like I said,

1169
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, Nick nixt totally right, we don't know for sure.

1170
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what Sean's gonna do. I don't know

1171
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: what Jalen Smith's future is. But even if, even if

1172
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: they're all on the team, I'm still interested in upgrading

1173
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: is going to be a part of the Cowboys in

1174
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: some way, in some way, I'm I'm guessing that too.

1175
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's going to be in this building in

1176
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: some kind of the implier not not necessarily implying anything,

1177
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: but just I just I think they have a high

1178
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: regard for him, and I think he has a high

1179
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: regard for them, and I think typically we have those

1180
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: kinds of situations. I think it tends to work out. Yeah,

1181
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: But but if he's not everything y'all are sorry, go ahead,

1182
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: go ahead, Dad, Just everything y'all are saying is an implication.

1183
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 1: You're implying that he's going to either play or coach

1184
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Like I mean, it's not a very

1185
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: subtle implication. It's an opinion implicate Okay, it's an opinion,

1186
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: it's not an implication. An opinion. That's not guessing the lottery.

1187
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: That's something that you could easily assume. That's not it's

1188
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: not a hard thing. But what we do know about

1189
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: it is he's not gonna be a starter. Yeah, so

1190
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. Then let's figure out who's you know,

1191
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: who's gonna play, Who's gonna start, you know. And I

1192
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: know I've seen I've seen the clips, and I know

1193
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: there's some baggage to it, but I know there's that

1194
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: kid in Penn State looks like it looks pretty sam good,

1195
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: but I think there's some issues there with him. And

1196
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: here's my thing. Like, I know, Dave, you said you

1197
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily go with a tenth overall pick on linebacker.

1198
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: I look around the league and I'm like, man, think

1199
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: about like the really good defenses, they usually start with

1200
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: a really good linebacker. And so I just look at

1201
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: it personally and I say, if you've got a guy

1202
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: you think is that good, I think go ahead and

1203
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: make the pick because I think right now one of

1204
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: the things that's holding this team, this defense back is

1205
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: their linebacker play. I think they got two guys out

1206
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: there right now that didn't play great this year, and

1207
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: I think if you can get that one position fixed,

1208
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: I think it makes a lot of other positions look

1209
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: a lot better because if you can get a guy

1210
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: that can cover as well, you know, rush at times

1211
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: as well as run sideline the sidline. I know that's

1212
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: not an easy thing to find, but you find that guy,

1213
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: it's worth it. You'll get more than the value back

1214
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: on that pick. What really sucks? Had I had a

1215
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: great argument. I was sorry, Amber, what I was just

1216
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna say that what really sucks is that you actually

1217
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: recently spent the first round pick on a linebacker, and

1218
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: that hasn't necessarily behind you where you wanted to be

1219
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: because of the injuries and stuff. But it just sucks

1220
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: that we're still talking about the linebacker positions a few

1221
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: years out of them drafting a first round pick on

1222
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: a linebacker. Yeah. True, which goes to my kind of

1223
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: goes to my point. I got in an argument with

1224
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks on the Draft Show about this last week,

1225
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: which if you promise me you're getting if I am

1226
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: getting Devin White, the Tampa Bay linebacker, who has one

1227
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty tackles and ten sacks and three picks?

1228
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: But how many? But it's a good question, that's a

1229
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: really good question. But I mean, go go back and

1230
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: watch that game. Though, like, the reason the reason Green

1231
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: Bay struggled wasn't necessarily linebacker. It was because Shack Barrett

1232
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: and sapp were eating Aaron Rodgers. They were eating Rogers alive,

1233
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: and I mean, yes, good linebacker. They also couldn't run

1234
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: the ball, and that had a lot to do with

1235
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:24,479
Speaker 1: the linebacker. Right, Hey, who's who's beasting in Kansas City?

1236
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: Who's their beast linebacker? Guy by the name of and

1237
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: the hygens who was found in the who's found in

1238
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: the fourth round? You can find good Bobby Wagner was

1239
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: the second round pick, Like you can find those guys

1240
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: all over the draft. I would just rather spend a

1241
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: top ten pick on pass rush or coverage. That's just me.

1242
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: All right, we'll appreciate you, guys, Jonas. That's a rap.

1243
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. We're gonna finish up the offense.

1244
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the running back position, which I think

1245
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions and a lot of

1246
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 1: conversations around that, we'll also get into the offensive line

1247
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: and the tight end position well that next week. Till

1248
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: then for Nick Eaton, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I am

1249
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: Derek Heapelton. This has been The Break live on Dallas

1250
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:05,000
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1251
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,680
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