WEBVTT - Boeing Astronauts Return From Space, Trooper Michael Proctor Fired, Jim Morrison May Be Alive, and More! 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:21.000 Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.720 Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On this episode, we 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:27.720 are going to be talking about more celebrity death conspiracy theories, 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.680 the astronauts that were stranded in space finally coming home, 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.360 a man who lived with his dead girlfriend for twenty days, 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:39.120 and not telling your family when you have a terminal illness. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.239 We also have a lot more to discuss on today's episode, 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:47.240 So let's start off with this newest celebrity death conspiracy theory. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.120 All right, So basically this new docu series drafted on Apple, 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.920 where these people are saying they believe that Jim Morrison 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.160 of The Doors is alive even though we believe that 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.279 he died back in nineteen seventy one. 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:04.480 So is this something that is new because I know 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:10.440 that forever there's been conspiracy theories of him and Elvis 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.839 and whoever else like still being alive. There's been parodies 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.160 in movies. Do you remember I think it was like 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.640 death that Becomes Her. They were, you know, like all 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.840 those people had taken that potion and there was like 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.840 this party afterwards, and Elvis was there, and you know, 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.360 like things like that, like fun things and movies, just 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.640 acting like these people are still alive. So I mean, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:35.399 there was definitely shadiness when he died, so I could 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.240 understand why people this is exactly why conspiracy theories happened, 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:44.039 because things aren't done according to protocol, right, Yeah, I mean. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.640 When he died. He was only twenty seven when he died, 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.200 and it was just after they finished recording an album 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.960 and he was notably dealing with severe drug problems at 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.640 the time. But basically he was found dead in a bathtub. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.400 They didn't do an autopsy, and then he got buried 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.800 in pairs, which I thought was really weird. But I 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:04.800 don't really know all that much about his life and 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.360 maybe if he wanted to be buried there or whatever, 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.960 but it all seemed to go down pretty quickly. But 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.280 it is unusual, in my opinion, it's unusual that they 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.320 wouldn't do an autopsy, especially on such a high profile person. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.200 So was his girlfriend at the time. I don't really 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.760 know a ton about this. Was his girlfriend at the 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.919 time from France. 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.840 No, I don't think she was. I think that she 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.799 was American and they met in the United States. Okay, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.480 so well, regardless they they were there, and I've seen 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.360 a couple different things that she was They were a 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.120 longtime girlfriend and boyfriend, so there might have been a 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.480 thing that he was considered to be common law with her, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.280 which may give her some rights as far. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:55.080 As where he's buried. And maybe, I mean, one possibility 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.560 is that they just loved that city and that is 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.840 where she would thought he would want to be buried. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.520 But I just have a lot of questions about how 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:08.960 it all went down. So I guess the first shady 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.480 thing is is that he died and they didn't alert 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.400 anybody or the media, Like nobody knew for six days, 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.000 and he was already buried by the time the public 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.679 found out, so his family and friends were very surprised 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.040 to hear about it. And I feel like her story 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.560 changed a lot about what happened that night. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.040 And she was a drug addict too, and I think 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.520 I think she ended up overdosing not long after him, So. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:39.240 Regardless, her story changed a lot. And then obviously when 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.400 people are on drugs are drinking and stuff, the whole 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.800 story is going to change. But I guess it did 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.960 come out to be true years later that the scene 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:51.880 was not initially what investigators suspected, so they came up 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.680 to the house and found him in the bathtub dead. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.480 But then later when they did some investigation, witnesses came 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:02.480 forward and said that it actually, this is the newest 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.080 allegation that it appears that he had an overdose in 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:09.840 a nightclub that night, and he had been found in 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:15.200 the nightclub bathroom, bent over the toilet, unresponsive, and the 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.840 people that had sold him the drugs that night had 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.920 taken him back to the house and put him in 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.800 the bathtub. Now, the shady thing that comes out of 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.400 that is that these two people who were selling the 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.880 drugs at the club were these high profile drug dealers 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:36.039 that sold to celebrities, and they were called aristocrats or whatever. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.400 They're really high profile people, and they were trying to 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.520 cover it up. And the very interesting thing is that 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.440 there's allegations that one of these drug dealers was having 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.520 an affair with Jim Morrison's girlfriend. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.719 I mean, it's totally possible that this happened. It was 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.400 also the seventies, so just like it's the seventies, you're 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.600 in a different country. They have different forensic protocols when 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.279 it comes to finding a dead person. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.040 I do clearly know standards whatsoever, because this easily could 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.919 have been figured out. And I guess you know, we 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.120 could say this with all sorts of celebrity deaths, that 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:18.760 normal protocols aren't aren't followed, and look what happens. Like 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.360 so in a normal situation, you would one hundred percent 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.800 do an autopsy. In this case because the guys twenty 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.680 seven drugs were involved. There's just multiple reasons why you 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.279 would do an autopsy in this case. The girlfriend said 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.680 she found them, like okay, okay, Like why don't we 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.279 do the autopsy and figure out what really happened because 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.960 we're not listening to people's stories because I don't know. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.640 There's just been a history of people lying about what 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:47.960 actually happened forever. So that's why autopsies are done. So 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.080 the very first thing that we could notice with just 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.200 an external exam in a situation like that is if 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:58.480 his body was indeed moved after he died, so that 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.839 could have been something that was done without even cutting 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:02.720 his body open. Is to be able to tell that. 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.240 And the way that we could tell that is, so 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.840 let's say, for example, the story that we're hearing is 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.479 true that he did in fact die at the nightclub, so, 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.320 which is which is also interesting because of what the 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.920 witnesses said. So they went in the bathroom and they 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.719 found them slumped over the toilet for an unknown amount 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.559 of time. And this person that found him had said 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:27.279 that he was unresponsive, he was already dead, and he 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.560 had foam coming out of his mouth and his nose. 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.520 And this is what is expected to be seen in 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.880 a person who has had an opioid overdose because it 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.120 depresses the respiratory centers in the brain and it causes 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.160 pulmonary edema, which is fluid in the lungs. So when 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.240 people are taking their last breaths, that little bit of 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.719 air mixed with that fluid creates a foam and it 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:53.000 froths out through the nose and at autopsy you would 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.120 see that in the long tissue as well as in 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.039 the trachea. But so this is important that this guy 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.360 saw this. But when you die, all of the blood 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.839 leaves your circulatory system and it starts going to the 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:09.080 dependent areas based upon gravity. So, for example, when we 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:13.120 do autopsies on people who die in the hospital, when 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.880 you die laying in bed, when the blood starts leaving 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.760 your circulatory system, it goes to the lowest point, which 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.160 would be the entire back of your body, and that's 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:25.080 what we see usually in hospital autopsies. But if he died, 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.320 for example, in the bathroom at this club, and was 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.960 bent over the toilet, so let's say he was kneeling 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.040 next to it like you would be if you were vomiting, 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.640 then you would expect to see this blood pulling. This 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.680 is also called lividity or live re mortis. You would 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.840 see this in the front of his body wherever he 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:44.760 was leaning over, so you would see it in his 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.240 face and his belly. So even if those guys picked 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.920 him up and moved him back to the house and 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:54.320 put him in the bathtub, you would still expect to 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.600 see the live re mortis on the front of his body, 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.800 which to any death investigator you would be like HM's 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.800 that he has lividity on the front of his body 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.640 when he was found in the bathtub on his back. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.040 So do you understand like that that to me would 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.560 be really unusual. I guess the girlfriend said that he 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.520 had blood coming out of his nose in his mouth. 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.760 And another way that you could explain that is that 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.800 when a body starts decomposing, the bacteria start breaking down 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.960 the organs, and this fluid could come The organs essentially 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.400 start to liquefy and they could come out of the mouth, 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.680 especially when the bodies move. So sometimes if we find 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.840 a body there's nothing there and then you move the 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.680 body just to bring the body to the morgan, this 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.000 fluid comes out of their mouth and nose, and it's 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.360 not really blood. It's like a brownish fluid. It's called purge, 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.840 but some people mistake it to look like blood. So 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.160 that's another indication that he was moved, and also that 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:55.720 he was decomposing for some time before authorities were called 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.839 to the house. So this is exactly why autopsies need 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.760 to be done, because you just can't especially with people 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.880 that are on drugs, you can't trust them. 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.440 Wait, I have a side note question. So this new 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.720 show came out this week with Amanda Seifred on Peacock. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.240 It's she's like a cop in Kensington in Philly and 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.959 she deals with like all the drug addicts on K 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.760 and A and everything. But on the first episode of 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.720 the show, all these women are showing up dead and 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.400 then they're saying the medical examiner is just like, oh, 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.000 they just odeed, so we're not doing autopsies. Is that 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.839 standard that they would find an ode person on the 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.640 street and does not assume. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.319 No they And that was actually interesting to me as 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.520 a student because I remember one time and we had 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.720 so many drug cases and this was when it wasn't 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:46.040 even super crazy like it is now in Philly, but 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.640 we would do We had an autopsy on this one 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.200 guy who was like my age. He was in his 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.240 young twenties and he odd in the basement of his 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.520 house and his parents found him dead, and it was 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:58.880 I just was upset about it because I was like, 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.000 this is terrible for parents to find their kids. And 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.080 the mom said, you know, he's had problems his whole 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.720 life and this and that. So my first question, because 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:07.280 this is when I was a student still, I was 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.240 kind of like, all right, well, he has injection marks 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.600 in his arm, he has this long standing history of 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.680 overdosing and being on drugs, Like he was found in 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.120 all the classic ways you would see from an overdose death, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.240 Like why are we doing this autopsy right now? And 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.679 that's just what happens. They're all done because you don't 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.800 really know, you just want to confirm it. Toxicology will 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:33.120 confirm it. And this is another thing too, like you 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:37.280 have a guy that overdosed and you didn't even do toxicology. 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.240 They actually came out and said with Jim Morrison that 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.160 his cause of death was or his manner of death 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.920 was natural. And they said that maybe he had a 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:50.359 heart attack. Yes, they didn't even say that. The speculation 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:54.680 of him overdosing actually didn't even come up until fans 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.760 back in the US were just like, Yeah, this guy 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.120 had like a drug problem and he probably over. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.800 And how is a twenty seven year old that's seemingly 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.280 healthy just gonna have a heart attack and die. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.600 Well, that could happen, so don't you don't mind. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.160 But I'm saying it's not usual, and they're therefore in 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:15.800 autopos It absolutely is not usual. And especially listen when anybody, 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.679 like if you had a twenty seven year old that 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.520 was it, that went to the hospital and then got 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.760 diagnosed with a heart condition, maybe a congenital heart condition 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.440 that was unknown or something, and they died, it might 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.760 not be indicative to do an autopsy when you find 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.520 a twenty seven year old dead in a bathtub, like 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:37.120 it's you do an autopsy, You just do, especially when 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.920 they have a history of drugs, especially when they're freaking 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:44.000 Jim Morrison, Like, the whole thing's crazy. But I mean, listen, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.400 I don't even know what happened in the seventies in 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.280 this country, let alone. But I do know. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.040 Because we've covered a lot of celebrity death dissections that 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.240 happened during this time period, and I do know that 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.360 they had the ability to see all of these things 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.240 that I'm talking about right now. They had toxicology, They 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.400 had the ability to use a knife and cut him 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.080 open and look at his lungs, look at them under 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.400 the microscope, and they would easily been able to rest 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.280 all of this. But maybe, I mean, maybe they were 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.960 afraid of the media getting crazy and they just wanted 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.680 to get him in the ground and move on. But 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.720 I always think it's suspicious when people are very quick 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:20.920 to get someone in the ground. 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.760 Yeah. Well, this is kind of adding to why this 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.640 docuseries has come out and is really controversial, because they're 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.320 basically alluding to the fact that because of how suspicious 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.000 his death was and how quickly he was buried in everything, 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.000 that they think he might have faked his death, and 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.679 that he's this man named Frank that's currently living in Syracuse, 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.320 New York. So I don't know how this filmmaker came 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.640 to this conclusion or ended up finding this person named Frank. 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.760 They did interview this man, I will say. Looking at 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.319 pictures of him and a young Jim Morrison, they do 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:57.120 look very similar. But again, this could be solved with 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.959 a simple DNA test. So I don't know why there's. 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.760 Alla And his brother is in the documentary as well, 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.960 I believe, so that again very very simple for them 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.960 to figure that out. And also I mean in theory, 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:16.160 if he was buried in Paris, he's his body's still there, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.120 like if you really if if you really wanted to know, 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.280 and the brother is the legal next to kin, I mean, 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.760 it just exzoom him and find out. Exzoom the body 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.880 and see if it's him. I mean, this could just 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.800 be close. What's the why is it like this? What 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.319 is there so many questions about it's I feel like 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:33.360 it's an easy fix. 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.960 Well, I feel like it's an easy answer. I was 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.640 looking online and it doesn't seem like the reviews of 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.559 the docuseries are that great and saying it's very long 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.520 and drawn out and not really giving definitive answers, so 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.080 kind of what's the point. But I yeah, I think 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.120 if you just look at the pictures of these people 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.760 next to each other, you could say that. But everybody 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.400 has doppelgangers, so you can't just say that this man 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.640 is is Jim Morrison. And maybe he is, but like, 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:02.640 just get the DNA test. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.920 One of the questions that I did have about this, though, 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.640 is to see who the beneficiary was. Because I did, 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.120 I couldn't really get a clear answer. It seems like 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:13.959 she could have been, like I said, because they were 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.400 saying that they were common law because he did he 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:20.440 had money, right, And I mean, come on, if this 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.880 woman was having an affair with the guy that sold 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.800 him drugs, I mean, it is quite possible that it 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.080 was just a bad batch or whatever he just did 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.840 too much, because that happens often. But it's a little 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.800 shady that the guy who gave you the drugs that 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.840 killed you was actually having an affair with his girlfriend. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.520 Like it's just yeah, but what would be the point 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.640 of inheriting it if she ended up over overdosing not 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.120 that long after him. Well, she didn't know she was 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.080 going to She didn't know she was going to die. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.160 And furthermore, like if she had any involvement with his death, 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.480 she probably if she if it was truly accidental, she 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.960 might have felt terrible about it. And I mean, anyway, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.960 if you do heroin, the chances of you still doing 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.600 it are just going to be greater, and especially if 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.040 you have a big loss. So I'm not necessarily saying 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.600 that it was intentional, but it's also just kind of 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.280 like it just deems an investigation at the very least. 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.720 So I'm sure most of our listeners know about this too. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.520 But Jim Morrison's in this like unofficial club called the 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:26.160 twenty seven Club, which is these people that were young 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.120 and at the peak of their career that ended up 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.400 dying when they were twenty seven years old. So in 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.400 addition to Jim Morrison, there's Jimmy Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, and 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.720 Janis Joplin. They all died when they were I think 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.960 Keith Ledger too. Oh maybe he thought I thought he 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:40.360 was a little older, but maybe not. 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:40.880 I'm not trying. 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:44.880 Aren't they all drug related deaths? Yeah, every single person 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.560 that's in this club. So I think that's really interesting 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.720 culturally that you reach this point and then you're just like, 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.200 I don't know. I was talking to Ricky about this 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.680 recently because I really love the Doors music. I know 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.920 you're not the biggest fan of the era of music, 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.080 but I really love their songs, and I was saying 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.680 how I was surprised that the band put up with 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.280 him because he seemed like such a fucking miss with 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:10.160 the way he gave me. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:11.960 Why they put up with him because he was the 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.120 band Nobody can even can name one of the other 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:15.800 members unless you're like a superfan. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.240 No, I know that. So it's like it kind of 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.520 sucks because you're faced with this person that's such a problem, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.040 but he's the face of your band, Like, yeah, they 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.920 could have kicked him out and got another singer, but 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.720 it wouldn't have been the same never goes over, Well, no, 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.120 it never would, and it's you know it happened with 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.760 Nirvana to like the singers die and then your whole 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:34.360 band's over. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.400 I do see though, like I know that the same 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.760 thing happened with Kirk Cobain, that he was just kind 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.920 of over the band and the fame and all of it. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:47.200 And I can see a time where people, especially like 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.720 if this was totally he totally could have faked his 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.800 own death for sure, the way that this went down. 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.240 But I could see you just wanting to be like, 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.280 you know what, like I'm just going to fall off 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.040 the face of the earth and act like I died 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.200 and I'm just gonna another identity. One of the things 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.720 I think I saw from the clip of the documentary 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.880 was saying that his Social Security number was still active. 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.400 But you know, from other stories here, I was gonna 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.080 say that I was going to say, like, I'm pretty 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.520 sure that we just learned that there's like hundreds of 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.480 thousands of Social Security numbers that are still active. Like 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.880 if he died in Paris and nobody really ever reported 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.479 it to the United States, then there's a possibility that 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:31.399 just that's all it is, and unless like someone's physically 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.200 collecting off of that money and then they should easily 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:38.800 be able to trace that as well. So whatever it's 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.240 it is interesting. Are you gonna watch it? 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.080 I don't know, because I watched a couple of people 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.280 reviewing it that said it was like really hard to 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.040 get through because it was just a lot of nonsense interviews. 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.080 Because at first I was really interested. But it's three 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.920 hours long, it's three one hour long episodes. I so, 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:56.760 how did this get on Apple? 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.720 If it's on Apple TV, can this just be like 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.480 some guy who made this low budget or someone actually 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:06.040 had to put money into this, because I thought that 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.760 the trailer was a little like weird. It just looks 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.840 like someone made it in their basement or something. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.439 He could have made it beforehand, and then after it 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.800 was made, sold it to Apple to distribute. They don't 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.080 always have to be involved in the beginning. But I 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.560 guess my final thoughts are, let's say it is Frank 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.320 person in Syracuse really is Jim Mars and he did 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.240 fake his death. Just leave him alone. He clearly did 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.240 it for a reason and he wanted to start over. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:34.640 Just let him be and let him live the rest 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:35.639 of his life. He's old. 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.919 Just tell him to do one more concert like or something. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:45.359 I don't All right, let's talk about these astronauts because 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:46.600 this is super interesting. 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.760 Oh my god. So last summer we reported that these 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:53.200 two astronauts had gone up on this Boeing Starliner capsule. 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.119 Their trip was only supposed to be eight days, but 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.680 of course the capsule had technical difficulties, so NASA decided 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.320 they were going to hold them at the International Space 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.120 Station and send the capsule back empty, just so there 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.720 wasn't any risk of their life. But it has taken 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.640 nine months to get them home. But finally on Tuesday night, 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.040 after SpaceX went up, they retrieved them and they're back 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:15.440 on Earth. 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.000 This is so cool to me from a medical perspective 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.160 because a couple years ago we went to the Kennedy 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.480 Space Center NASA in Florida and we were able to 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.720 have this breakfast with an astronaut thing, and it was 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:32.040 so cool and we were able to ask them questions 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.840 and I just I guess I never really thought about 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.240 it up until then, about what happens to you when 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.160 you go up in space. But you have to think 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.320 about it that there's no gravity, so you're you know, 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.440 the human body is made and designed to live on 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:51.159 Earth and with our environment. So there's a lot of 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:55.240 different things that happen with these people when they come 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.719 back to Earth because they think about this, like if 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.879 you're floating for a while, you're just you're not staying 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:05.080 on the ground. You almost lose your ability to walk, 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:09.160 Your muscles waste away your bone density lessons because you're 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.280 not using them to keep yourself on the ground and 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:16.800 to keep yourself upright. And so when these people come back, 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.320 even if you're only there for a few weeks, when 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.560 you come back, you have to go through this whole 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:26.000 intensive physical therapy thing to get back to walking normal, 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.680 which is why they were taking them out on stretchers essentially, 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.720 because those people would fall right to the ground. And 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.000 it's crazy to think that you're in your sixties or 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.679 something and you would have to relearn how to walk again. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:42.440 But it's the same thing. Think about when you ride 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.480 a bike. It's very simple. If you know how to 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:46.359 ride a bike, you just get on it. But before 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:47.960 you know how to ride a bike, it's just like 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:49.879 you have to learn how to use your muscles in 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.199 a certain way to keep the bike up right in 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.479