1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: in the stratore of normalcy here quewing it up on 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: a Tuesday first Brown, Steve Tasker with you as we 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: sit a day away from the release of the twenty 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: twenty one NFL schedule regular season seventeen games of bliss 8 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: ready for all of us to digest and plentiful supply. 9 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: Are you ready for it? So ready? The schedule's coming out. 10 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: We got stuff to talk about. It's uh, you know, 11 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: we're in the heart of the off season now right, 12 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: this is we're dead zone. Dead zone is fast approaching. 13 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: I will grant you that. But there is rookie Minicamp 14 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: this weekend. Yeah, that'll be a welcomed respite when we 15 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: got to sit here and can't watch and and the 16 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: schedule comes out tomorrow night. Yes, And I believe if 17 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: I read this right, Week one, the Week one schedule 18 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: for the NFL is going to be released tomorrow morning, right, 19 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: I want to say on Good Morning Football they will 20 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: have the Week one slate. So it's almost like a 21 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: little appetizer, Yeah, if you will before the whole shebang 22 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: is released in the evening at eight o'clock on NFL 23 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: Network in prime time. Why, I wonder whether they're doing that. Uh, 24 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, the breadcrumb approach. We've been thinking. We've 25 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: seen you on this for a little bit, right, We've 26 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: said this, maybe it's just as a promo, right, We've 27 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: said this to the Bills Bucks on opening Thursday night 28 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. Would is a really kind of a 29 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: tasty matchup that we think maybe the Bills are involved, 30 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, gonna get that that Marquee game, or it 31 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: could be the Bills Cowboys. And I was looking down 32 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: the list Bucks Cowboys, um, and I was looking down 33 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: the list. Another one that to me kind of fits 34 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: would be New England in Tampa Bay. Yeah. I mean 35 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: that's a more of them, you know. I think the 36 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: concern there is New England keeping up. Yeah, it's New 37 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: England gonna be able to keep up Cam. Yeah, I 38 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean if the NFL schedule makers are 39 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: watching Cam Newton film from last year, they're like, yeah, 40 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: that's not gonna get it done. Oh yeah, And it 41 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: would be in they're in New England. Oh well, there 42 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: you go. That's not gonna have about that. So that 43 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: was that was that's been roundly dismissed. But that would 44 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: be a good come on that. I don't know, do 45 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: you really think that, do you think they really you know, 46 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: don't think New England's gonna be able to you know, 47 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: keep up with their defenders coming back. And I still 48 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: believe Stefan Gilmour is not going to be on that 49 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: roster by the beginning of the season. I think he 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: gets traded probably sometime in training camp, maybe even after 51 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: an injury. That's some team that's going for it, you know, 52 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: suffers an injury at corner and here's a guy for 53 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: only seven and a half million dollars last year of 54 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: his deal, and you're going for it that year, you know, 55 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: when you have some bad injury training camp, I could 56 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: see him moved off the roster. Yeah, I could see it. 57 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't know though, he'd be highly motivated to me. 58 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: To me, New England isn't the sexy draw that was 59 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: that it was maybe not. Now, they'll still be a 60 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: competitive team this year. I think they could maybe even 61 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: get to nine wins, possibly ten, knowing there's an extra 62 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: game this year to to NFL schedule makers and the networks, 63 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: who is the draw for that team? Who is the draw? 64 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: Here's Nelson Aghalore, right. Can't you know what I mean? 65 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: Like the tight ends, Sony Michelle. I think mac Jones 66 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: is a big but is he playing like you don't 67 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: know that it's always a draw. I mean that it's 68 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: a great France, an iconic franchise over the last twenty year. 69 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: And so they'll get there, come close to they'll have 70 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: their prime time presence, but they are clearly a tier 71 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: below the sexy teams right in the league. But here's 72 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: the thing too, and we talk about this pre show 73 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: and I don't know, this may be a little too 74 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: early to get into it. You talk about teams going 75 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: for it or having a draw. The twitter verse is 76 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: absolutely going nuts over Tim Tebow getting signed by Jacksonville, 77 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: and you you're kind of on that bandwire like Booker 78 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: McFarland's all over it. Des Bryant chimed in, every everybody's 79 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: everybody's in a what do you give me your take 80 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: on the Tim Tebow signing a tight end for the 81 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguar. He is not an NFL caliber player. End 82 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: of story. Okay, he's not. Okay, I didn't think he 83 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: was an NFL quarterback when he first came into the league. 84 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: That was obviously proven true. And I mean, you can 85 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: say everything you want about his intangibles. I won't debate 86 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: those for a second, but he's not an NFL talent 87 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: level player in any way, shape or form. Do you 88 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: think it's a stunt. No, I don't think it's a stunt. 89 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: I think urban Meyer genuinely respects who Tim Tebow is 90 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: as a person, and I want to say as a 91 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: professional athlete, he does all the right things in terms 92 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: of his level of commits it meant and work ethic 93 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: and team first mindset and all of that. You can't 94 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: debate any of that with Tim Tebow, which is probably 95 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: why he's getting this opportunity from the coach with whom 96 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: he had the most success, albeit at a different position 97 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: and at a much different level of football. There is 98 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: way too much being made of this. As a matter 99 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: of fact, I don't even think he makes the Finn Well. 100 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: They do need tight end help. They got rid of 101 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffert, so they may be able to find a 102 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: roster spot for him. I guess he's proven people wrong before, 103 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: and if he proves me wrong, good on him. But 104 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: at age thirty three, going to be thirty four before 105 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: the season, Yeah, I play in a position that he's 106 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: never played at the college level, let alone the pro 107 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: level after playing baseball for four years. Like, I'm sorry 108 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: that I've been around on the NFL long enough to 109 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: know how hard it is a to just get to 110 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: the level, and then to stay there is even harder. 111 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: And I know I'm not telling you anything. You don't know. 112 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: It's friggin hard. And there are guys with boatloads more 113 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: natural god given ability than Tim Tebow has that didn't 114 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: stay around. Now, there's a various number of reasons why 115 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: that's the case, But to me, Tebow just doesn't have 116 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: enough of the requisite physical skill to play effectively in 117 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: this league. I just I don't. I don't see it. 118 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: Let me give you the counterpoint to that. And you're 119 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: all that stuff he stays right, I mean, obviously there's 120 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: no we don't know what he's gonna look like at Tinny. 121 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: You gotta you can even at best, the expectations are 122 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: low from a tight end. But here's here's my here's 123 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: my point to the signing and why I'm not I'm 124 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: not crushing it at all. Every team in the end, 125 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: every single team in the NFL is hiring and signing 126 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: at least fifteen guys on the roster they have no 127 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: shot that are maybe not no shot, but aren't gonna 128 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: make a long shot long shot, you know. So, Um, 129 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: every team's gonna have fifteen guys on the roster that 130 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: are not gonna be around for the regular season. They're 131 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: gonna cut him eighty five down to seventy or sixty. 132 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna be you know, some teams. You know, it's 133 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: gonna be twenty guys that aren't gonna be bouncing around 134 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: the roster from the street free agent to the practice 135 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: squad and back to the street free agent, or from 136 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: the practice squad to the active roster for a week 137 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: and back to the practice squad to be plucked to 138 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: another team. That kind of thing, that kind of career. 139 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: There's gonna be twenty guys a team that are gonna 140 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: do that signing a guy like Tim Tebow. You're right, 141 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: they're not. To me, urban Meyer isn't signing Tim Tebow 142 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: to be a tight end, even though he's gonna practice 143 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: at tight end being the room with the tight ends. 144 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: You know, have a tight end number. I guess he's 145 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: not signing him to be a tight end. He's signing 146 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow because urban Meyer thinks there's a chance that 147 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow raises the floor the entire franchise by showing 148 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: guys how to be a good teammate, how to work hard, 149 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: how to be a humble, hard working pro athlete in 150 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: a team that desperately needs a culture needed, a culture 151 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: culture change. Tim Tebow's the exactly the kind of guy 152 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 1: to be the point person on changing a culture in Jacksonville. 153 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: He may not be their week one, but during his 154 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: time there, he will give urban Meyer more than some 155 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: other street free agent tight end would give him on 156 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, well that's I think the reasoning behind. 157 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: Plus they probably you know what, if they're going to 158 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: sign that many guys, Urban Meyers like Tim and every buddies, 159 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: we're friends, I'm signing the guy. Yeah, I mean I won't. 160 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: I won't debate that as the aim here with urban Meyer. 161 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean we saw it here with Sean McDermot. Mike 162 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: Tilbert was at the end of his career here in 163 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: Buffalo as a fullback slash running back. He couldn't hold 164 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: a candle to the young running backs on this roster, 165 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: but he made the roster and was here for the 166 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: entire twenty seventeen season. Why because he was an example 167 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: to the young guys in the locker room as to 168 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: what Sean McDermott expects from his players. And he knew 169 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: that Tilbert would set a proper example as to how 170 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: to carry yourself during the week, the effort level to 171 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: bring to practice, every day, film room commitment, all of 172 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: that stuff. He was an example of that, and he 173 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: had a bunch of those kinds of guys. Fortunately for him, 174 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander was already here and he just brought him 175 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: into that leadership council. Fold Pat DeMarco was another example. 176 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: So I don't have a problem with the aim here 177 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: by urban Meyer, because I do believe I agree with you. 178 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: I believe that is the aim. The reason it's getting 179 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: so much attention is because of the name recognition value 180 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: of Tim Tebow and you know, the talking heads on 181 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: the national networks. I mean some people are even saying, oh, 182 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: if Lawrence has a bad game or people are gonna 183 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: start talking about moving Tibo back to quarterbacks and I'm 184 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: just like, where what, Yeah, what, come on? The guy 185 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: couldn't throw a football, that's right, he can't throw. That's right, 186 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: he cannot throw. So just stop it. Yeah, it's not 187 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: it's nothing like And I get this too. People in 188 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: our industry, for better for worse, you know, throw darts 189 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: at this kind of signing and they use the name 190 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: recognition to you know, get clicks on their on their 191 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: website or their Twitter handle, and I get that, but 192 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: this there are to me. And you can say Tim 193 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: Tebow stinks he's never gonna play time. That may be true, 194 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: but that's not the reason he's being signed. If you 195 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: think Tim Tebow, if you think Urban Meyers, Tim Tebow 196 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: because he thinks he has a chance to be the 197 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: starting tight end of the Jacksonville Jaguars, you're broken. I mean, 198 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: you're you're you're cracked. You're not right that there's no 199 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: conceivable way that will ever happen. And barring a bus crash, 200 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: so there is a different motivation behind it. You can say, hey, 201 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: Urban and you can say it's even as innocuous as hey, 202 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer just wanted to do Tim a favor likes him. 203 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna hang out, he's gonna be and he's gonna 204 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: help him do evaluations. All. I think it's more so 205 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: the fact that the kind of person we all believe 206 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: and no Tim Tebow to b He's a uniter, He's 207 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: an inclusive guy. He's a humble, hard working guy. He's 208 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: got a lot of cashe in American sports right now 209 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: for the kind of guy isn't the kind of leader 210 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: he is, and the kind of kid he was at 211 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: Florida and the work ethic he put in at Denver, 212 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: even though you know he he got them and won 213 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: a playoff game in Denver and he and I'm not 214 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerate, he couldn't play quarterback. That might have 215 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: been the best throw he made in his professional career. 216 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: He made. Here's the thing. He made like one or 217 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: two of those a game where he would stink for 218 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: the entire game except for two throws that were unbelievably perfect. 219 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: In college, you win a national championship doing that in 220 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: the NFL, you're laughing stock Well, what also helped Tim 221 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: Tebow in college is the fact that you had wider 222 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: hash marks and urban meyers successfully recruited the fastest players 223 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: in football at the college level, and with the wide 224 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: side of the field being that much wider because of 225 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: the hashes. Just you run Percy Harvin to that side 226 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: of the field and he outruns everybody in the corner. 227 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: That's where Tim Tebow won a Heisman and that. But 228 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: this isn't about that. I mean, this whole conversation isn't 229 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: about Tim Tebow and why he was successful if Florida, 230 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: why he isn't in the NFL. He's not in the NFL. 231 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: But that's not why the Jacksonville Jaguars signed him. They 232 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: signed him to be a locker room leader, example setter, teammate, 233 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: and you know, a guy who would show young players 234 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: and a and an organization that has been lost in 235 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: the wilderness for a couple of years. He would show 236 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: them the way back, the path back as a player 237 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: from that end of the of the pecking order, a 238 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: street free agent thirty four years old, who's coming from 239 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, literally coming from right field to come in 240 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: and say, hey, here's how you do it. And he'll 241 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: have enough credibility because of his name recognition, because of 242 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: his past accomplishments, and because of his athletic career as 243 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: wide ranging as it's been. He'll have enough cachet that 244 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: guys will say, oh okay, I get it, and he'll 245 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: be the kind of guy the guys that will guys 246 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: will like. So that's why he signed. He not signed 247 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: to be the savior at tight End for the Jacksonville Jaguars, 248 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: not by any stretch of the imagination. He signed to 249 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: be a locker room lead, example set or a guy 250 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: who will set a framework of teamwork, of love and 251 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: respect and we're in this together and I'm with you, guys, 252 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: and you're with me, and we're together, let's go. That's 253 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: the kind of thing that Tim Tebow will bring to 254 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's the only reason they signed him. 255 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: Now how long that lasts is a more interesting question. 256 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: Do they keep him around? Do they keep him around? 257 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: Is he that good at that? Do they keep him 258 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: around no matter what? Or is it just like I said, 259 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: we're going keephim around for training camp, get things started, 260 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: and then you know we're gonna move on. Well, I 261 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: think it largely depends on what they have at tight End. 262 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: They you know, like I said yesterday on the show, 263 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: they released Tyler I've heard in the offseason, so he's 264 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: not there anymore. So it comes down to what is 265 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: he up against at the tight end position, you know, 266 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: like is he going to face stiff competition there? And 267 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: then secondarily, how much are they going to run the 268 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: football to support Trevor Lawrence as opposed to throwing the football? 269 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: Do they need a guy that can move around and 270 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: play fullback? He could do that. He's thick enough to 271 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: play fullback. So I think there are a few things 272 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: that play here that can factor into whether or not 273 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: he can make a fifty three man roster at a 274 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: brand new position that he's never played before at this level. 275 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to pull up the Jacksonville roster as 276 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: it stands right now. It's tire in the off season 277 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: because he got I forgot released. So so you have 278 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: Chris man Hurtz formerly of Carolina, and Kenisius Kid. You've 279 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: got Luke Farrell their fifth round pick this year, Tyler 280 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Davis their sixth round pick last year, veteran James O'Shaughnessy, 281 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: and a free agent ben Ellefson. So you don't have 282 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: big names at the position. But Tim Tebow is one 283 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: of six guys at the position, So decide what you're 284 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: gonna do there, um, and and are you keeping three? 285 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: Are you keeping four? If you're keeping four, yeah, maybe 286 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: he's got a shot. He can probably beat out two 287 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: of those guys. You know what else, if you're keeping three, 288 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: he's probably you're just trying to think about two. Think 289 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: about this and I'm I'm throwing this out there because 290 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm I get it. I don't know why everybody's crushing it. 291 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: It's it's not that big a deal because of you 292 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: know the type of guys teams are in a position 293 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: to sign at this time of year. What is it 294 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: gonna mean for a team to have a guy of 295 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow's cache? You know, former first round draft pick, 296 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: a Heisman Trophy winner, a washed out quarterback, a washed 297 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: out right field or come back at thirty three, show 298 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: up and be the kind of guy. He's gonna be 299 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: a kind of a you know, let's go, you know, 300 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: that kind of enthusiastic guy, which he is. Yeah, and 301 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: then with all that cache, he's gonna end up covering kicks. 302 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: What kind of statement is that to the guys on 303 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: the roster. Well, it might be a statement, but I 304 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: could very easily see some guys going, what is this, 305 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: what's this circus? Like, really, this guy's you don't think 306 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: that happens if he goes This guy in the league already, 307 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: if why is he back? If this guy if he 308 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: falls on his face, yeah, sure, but then it'll be 309 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: up to the coaching staff to handle that. But I 310 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: think there'll be some cynical guys on that roster going, really, 311 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 1: are we really doing this? Or the thirty three year 312 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: old guy that's never played tight end, we're gonna have 313 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 1: to rely on this guy at the tight end position 314 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: every week. I don't know, I don't think so. I 315 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: don't think that now. I don't think players will go that. 316 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: I don't think No, you're you're you're projecting the medium 317 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: mentality onto the locker room, and it just doesn't work 318 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: that way. Players aren't gonna know if a guy's got 319 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: a chance to earn a contract, the guy's a first 320 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: round draft pick, and you still got guys like Terrell 321 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: Owens and you know, Dez Bryant and you can go round, 322 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: you can go round around. Even Marshawn Lynch is you know, 323 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: flirted with you know, talk to teams about coming like 324 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 1: he said it's not outlandish. Um so no, I don't know. 325 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: Players aren't going to be cynical until they watch the 326 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: guy play. Then they'll be like, well, you know why 327 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: if he if he stinks, which mate he might, They'll say, Okay, 328 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: how long is this gonna last? What's the deal? Yeah? 329 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: But the guy last played in the league in twenty twelve. 330 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking ten seasons. Guy left the game 331 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: at age twenty three, ten seasons ago. There's guys on 332 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: this roster that only know him because of his name value. 333 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's I think the expanse of time 334 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: between his last time in the league too now is 335 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: the biggest thing working against him. I think he's gonna 336 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: step on the field and be like, wow, yeah, I 337 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: wonder how what the hell is this his foot speed? 338 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: I wonder what? Of course Urban Myer they worked him out, 339 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: so obviously he got something. He got he reached whatever 340 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: bar they were looking at to get get the contract, 341 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: because he didn't just walk in and they said, yeah, 342 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, if it's Tim Tebow has take him. They 343 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: worked him out. So I guess he's gonna he's gonna 344 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's not gonna embarrass himself athletically. Yeah, he 345 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 1: ran a four to seven at the combine. It's not fast. 346 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: Oh you mean ten years ago? Yeah, Okay, what do 347 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: we think he is now, that's a good question. I'll 348 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: bet he ain't four to seven. I don't know. Yeah, 349 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll tell you that. I'll say this though, 350 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not just. I mean, we sit here 351 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: in this football world, Brownie, and I know what it's 352 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: like to be thirty three in the NFL. I have 353 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: no idea what it's like to be thirty three in 354 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: the in the Major League Baseball or even minor league baseball. 355 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's very different at thirty three in the NFL. 356 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: My hands have been broken nine times at a broken arm, 357 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: right five knee operations. So you want to argue to 358 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: stretch fracture in my spine, So you want to argue 359 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: young legs for him? Is that what your argument is? 360 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: He certainly isn't, doesn't. His X rays certainly don't look 361 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: like he got thrown out of the back of a 362 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: pickup truck in sixty I get it, you know. So 363 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: there's that, Um, yeah, that there's that. But that's a 364 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: minor thing. I mean, that's just if he's physically in 365 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: good shape. Okay, all right, But and my point is this, 366 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: we don't know because all these guys the Bill sign 367 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: that the you know raiders every team in the NFL. 368 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, the last twenty guys on the roster, 369 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty guys on the roster, you'd be shocked. You'd 370 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: be shocked at the you know, the kind of athletes 371 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: they are, some of them, not all of them, but 372 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: some of them. Okay, all right, I think we've I 373 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: think we've run run our course on Tim Tebow. We'll 374 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: have to see where you're gonna wait. Training camps kick in. 375 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna see him. He can make it to the preseason, 376 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: Yes he will. If you're eating your lunch, make sure 377 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: you've swallowed your current bite and don't take another before 378 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: I talk to you about this. This is in particular 379 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: for Bills fans that are listening. We know that we've 380 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: all grown sick of seeing Tom Brady still playing in 381 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: this league and playing at a very high level as 382 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: he is closing in on his forty fourth birthday. GM 383 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: of the Bucks, Todd Licht or Todd Light, sorry, Jason 384 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: Light I'll get it. Was recently interviewed and basically told 385 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: Rich Eisen, who's got his show as we know. Jason 386 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: Light told rich Eisen that he's keeping all options open 387 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: with resp back to Tom Brady's future in Tampa. He 388 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: said he wants to keep the conversations he's had with 389 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: Brady private, but in Light's opinion, the forty three year 390 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: old Brady could play seven more seasons. He said that 391 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: he told him personally, if he wants to play until 392 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: he's fifty and he still feels like he can play, 393 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: he can still play until he's fifty. He didn't. Yeah, Well, 394 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: let me just be as cynical as I can be. 395 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: They were yeah, Brady, Both Brady and like like we're 396 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: drunk at the postgame super party super Bowl party when 397 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: they said it, but you can play the year fifty. Bro, 398 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: Let's go yeah, No, I'm teasing, but that's what you 399 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: say when you just won the Super Bowl. I get that. 400 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: The only thing that gives me pause here, Steve, is 401 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: how ridiculous did we think it was when Brady was 402 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: talking about playing until he was forty five? Did we 403 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: not think that was preposterous? Yes, he's he's gonna turn 404 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: forty four this year. Yeah, and he's almost there. Here's 405 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah, he'll make it till he's forty five. 406 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: It's interesting to me because it just doesn't it doesn't 407 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: just happen that a guy just turns out and he's 408 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: gonna play to least forty five. There's a lot of 409 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: things that came together in tom Brady that make it possible. 410 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: Because we all know Father Time's undefeated, so he's gonna 411 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: get too old to play Times getting a run for 412 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: its money right now, that's right. But here's the thing 413 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: about tom Brady. We all talk and laugh about how 414 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: dedicated he is in the offseason, the tom Brady way, 415 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: the avocado toast, the whatever, yes, the regiment that he 416 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: puts himself on, and the fact that he's over the 417 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: course of his twenty years in the league. He looks 418 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: better now than he did as a rookie. I mean, 419 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: we've all seen the picture of him in his gray shorts. Yeah, 420 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: he looks like an athlete's dad. Back then he looked 421 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: as a two year old, he looked horrible. He was bad. 422 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: Now he looks better now than he did then. So 423 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: it's his commitment to his body and the recuperation and 424 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: the staying after a twelve months a year, three hundred 425 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: sixty five days a year, that has helped him. Also 426 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: what's helped him is how many times have bills fans 427 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: known when a guy comes over, like when the first 428 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: rules were first brought in, and a guy falls down 429 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: at his feet and swipes at his shin and gets 430 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: a penalty flag throne yea or a guy comes by 431 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: is looking the other way, tries to bat the past 432 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: and starts to just bring his hand down brushes against 433 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: his helmet. That's a penalty. The protection that Tom Brady 434 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: has seen in his career over the twenty years has 435 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: been unprecedented as well, also including in his commitment and 436 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: his regime, his regimen that he puts himself through, and 437 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: the rules of the game, his style of play of 438 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: not being not only he can't run, let alone run purposely. 439 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: The guy doesn't leave the pocket, He never puts himself 440 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: at risk of having that hit that he can't see coming. 441 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: So all those are just three aspects. Plus being with 442 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: the club that he was with who bent or broke 443 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: any rule they could get away with to give him 444 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: the success. That's that he's gotten and they and they 445 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: read this is not just me talking. They readily admitted. 446 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean Bill Belichick said it in a press conference. 447 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, he goes, Hey, we're pushing the envelope 448 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: if we can. When we're talking about the rules in 449 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: this guy, we're gonna push the envelope to try and 450 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: get an advantage. So you know, there's that all of 451 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: those things come together in one guy's career, and he's 452 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: in the position mentally and with his commitment to take 453 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: advantage of it. He's the guy who makes it to 454 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: forty five or forty seven. I'm forty and nine, whatever 455 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be. I can't stomach five more years 456 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: of this guy, six more years of this. At least 457 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: he's not in New England. Well, yeah, that makes it 458 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: easier for me. I just I can't even look at 459 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: him anymore like he is. I'm telling you, growing up 460 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: a Knicks fan, I hate it Michael Jordan because the 461 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: Knicks could not beat Michael Jordan every damn time. The 462 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: guy beat that. Now he beat everybody else too. But 463 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, did I respect him as a player, Yes, 464 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: But man, I hated that guy. Right, It's just I 465 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: just hated him. It's discouraging for your team, and to 466 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: be a fan of your team. You've got that guy 467 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: sitting over there going, we're not gonna beat that guy. 468 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: You know, there's people now who say are looking at 469 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: the bills, are saying you must think that way about Mahomes. Now, yeah, 470 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet either, but 471 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: it's different because at least you're in when you're talking 472 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: about Mahomes, at least you're in the playoffs. You know, 473 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: a least you're having it. You can have a sixty win, 474 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: thirteen fifty, you win fifteen games. That's a little easier 475 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: to stomach that loss. Right, I'm just tired of seeing him. 476 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: Just go away, go somewhere. But there's a lot on go. 477 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: Sit on an island in a lawn chair with a 478 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: drink in your hand, and you know he isn't seven enough. 479 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: Here's the squash seven enough, brownie, here's the squasher, the 480 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: real squasher. Someday his career is going to end. And 481 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: then what what do you mean? Then what he'll be? 482 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: He'll be on Sunday night football, He'll be on Thursday 483 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: night football. You're gonna be sitting through him talking about football. 484 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: For the rest, I think he goes away. Do you 485 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: think he does? Yeah, those guys, Yeah, the only reason. 486 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: That's why Europe, that's why. Yeah, I think. Well, I 487 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: think if Gazelle had her way, he would have retired 488 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: three years ago. I think he would have been done 489 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: after the sixth one. But he keeps telling her no, no, no, 490 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going here. Well, yeah, here's the thing too, 491 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: you gotta I think I think as a giveback, when 492 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: he is finally done, they go to Europe. We do 493 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: whatever you want. Yeah, whatever you want. I get it. 494 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: He's not gonna go gobble up Sundays in a broadcast 495 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: booth that. No. Yeah, you're probably right. I don't think 496 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: he does. I'll say this, um and I've heard other 497 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: guys say it too, and I experienced it myself. When 498 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: you're done and it's over, there ain't no going back 499 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: to pure well, right, Bret Brett Farve new six weeks 500 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: or seven six months after we retired that first time 501 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: from He's like, I can't play quarterback anymore if I 502 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: don't do it now. Yeah, I can't, and I'm me 503 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I'm not covering kicks anymore. Unless I do 504 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: it now, you know I got it. You gotta be 505 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: ready to hang it up, because once you hang it up, 506 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: there's no like. Like if you're a Jack Welch, the 507 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: former GE executive, if you're Elon Musk, if you're these 508 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: if there's these guys, you get to that aide, there's 509 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: all those guys, just start another business. It doesn't work 510 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: like that into sports. You can't start your own business. 511 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: And it's a window. It's not you're You're not gonna 512 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: play football for another team. You're gonna do something completely different, 513 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: and that when guys get their mind around that, when 514 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: that dawns on them, they've got to be ready to 515 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: handle it. Break time here for us. But we want 516 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: to talk to you about the ideal schedule for the 517 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: Bills and basically what we want you to give us 518 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: your ideal matchup for the season opener. We'll find out 519 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: what that is for the Bills and the other thirty 520 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: one NFL teams tomorrow morning before the full schedule is 521 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: released tomorrow night. Choices are there for you at One 522 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: Bills Live. Let us know which one appeals to you 523 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: the most and why. Here on One Bills Live, presented 524 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: by a Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome 525 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: back to One Bills Live. Christ Ground Steve cast with you. 526 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: We are checking in and asking you to give us 527 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: your ideal matchup for the Bills season opener. Choices are 528 00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: there for you at one Bills Live on Twitter Thursday 529 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: night at the Bucks kickoff game, primetime home game at 530 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, or some other matchup on the schedule this year. 531 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: What is your ideal matchup for the season opener? You 532 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: want to come out like a house on fire against 533 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champs on Thursday night. Where do 534 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: you want a primetime home games? I gotta tell you 535 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: it's a neck and neck race between those two choices 536 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: and a slight majority to a primetime home game, which 537 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: is where I voted Steve, because I want to see 538 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: Bills fans in a complete froth on Week one in 539 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: primetime for the whole country to see. It's almost like 540 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: a giveback to the fans two In a way, it's like, 541 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: you know what you got shut out of the of 542 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: enjoying that thirteen win season last year and two playoff victories, 543 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: and here's your give back. Not only do you get 544 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: to come in the building, but we're putting it in 545 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: prime time on national TV for the rest of the 546 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: country to see how crazy you people get when you 547 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: got a good team to root for. What I want 548 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: is a Sunday at one o'clock, bright sunny day match 549 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: up against the Patriots on Opening Day because fans will 550 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: be able to enjoy it and rub their faces in 551 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: it and love it, and it'll be the first time 552 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: they see the team after the fifteen game, after the 553 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: fifteen win season. And for me, I don't care what 554 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: the rest of the country thinks about our fan base. 555 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: It's about our fan base's ability to enjoy it themselves. 556 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: I know that. But I have a showcase to them, 557 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: and I know the networks want to showcase will they will, 558 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: but not on Opening Day do it some of them, 559 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you what, when they introduced that team 560 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: on Opening Day in Orchard Park, it's gonna be an 561 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: absolute showstopper. I want one of two teams in a 562 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: Sunday night week one primetime game. Okay, here, okay, give 563 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: me the Colts or give me the Steelers. Let's go 564 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: Sunday night week one. Give me that and you can 565 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: talk about people enjoying the day and everything. If it's 566 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: a primetime game, what time do you think they're coming 567 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: down here? Yeah, but they'll beget That's not the problem. 568 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: The problem is the next day. Everybody's got to go 569 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: to work on Monday. They're gonna get get home at 570 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: four am. Nobody wants that. Nobody cares about that. Yeah, 571 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: they do. Just take the day off. That's why. That's 572 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: why I want a Sunday at one and not a 573 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: Hunt primetime game. I need it, you know. I want 574 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: the fans to be able to enjoy it and get 575 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: home and I wantal game Sunday night week one. Give 576 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: me the cold you're being a pig, or give me 577 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers. I mean, it's fine, we've waited long enough. 578 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: I think we can be a little piggish here, Steve, 579 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: forgive me, but I'm gonna I'm gonna dive into gluttony 580 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: head first here. It's been along to say this, though. 581 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: What Yeah, pick the last Sunday night game in Week 582 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: one I think was two thousand, throw the schedule, which 583 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: was the revenge game. That was the revenge game for 584 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: the Bills after home run Throwback two thousand. Week one 585 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Bills Titans, and the Bills won that game 586 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: sixteen thirteen. Well, that way, go Sunday night football at 587 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: home and bring the Houston Texans in here. That's not 588 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: a game you're not put I know, are you putting 589 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: the Texans on primetime? The networks aren't talking there the 590 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: number two television market in the country. Yeah, the networks 591 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: aren't doing that. Bring the Texans in here and the 592 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: Bills buy a bill billion. Game will be over by halftime. 593 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: That networks do not want that game in prime time 594 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: without pig pig. Well no, I'm just saying, give me 595 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: a juicy matchup Week one that the networks like and 596 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: that the Bills picture game makes a lot of sense. 597 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: Pittsburgher Indie Pittsburg, because you get you get Ben Roethlisberger 598 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: his freshest, you know where he's got in. He's not 599 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: beat down by the by the regular season um or Indianapolis, 600 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Frank Wright coming back. Give me Carson Wentz 601 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: in his first start. That's a good team, though. Man, 602 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: it is a good team. A good team. It is 603 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: a good team. But that's what makes it a good game. 604 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: And you know, you gotta play him anyway some point 605 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: play Wentz before he's accustomed to everybody he's throwing to. Yeah, 606 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: that's that's a good point, you know what I mean. 607 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: That's maybe why you want, you know, Mac Jones in here. Yeah, 608 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: New England, man, they're gonna be a tough team to 609 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: figure and we're gonna get a little bit more of 610 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: a sense as to how we think that might go 611 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: up in New England when we talked to ESPNS Patriots 612 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: B reporter Mike Reese to get a sense is to 613 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: how things are shaken out up their post draft and 614 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: the trajectory they're putting Mac Jones on. It's gonna we'll 615 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: get the insight from him. At about twenty minutes from now, 616 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: second hour of the show, We've got ESPN dot COM's 617 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: Mike Reese joining us to give us the lowdown on 618 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: how the Patriots outlook for the season is shaping up 619 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: now that their draft class has been selected. And it'll 620 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how much rope Cam Newton has 621 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: given because I maintained at the end of last season 622 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: that Cam Newton would never start in this league on 623 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: a regular basis again, and then the Patriots resigned him, 624 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: which almost. I mean, you could have knocked me over 625 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: with a feather when that happened, because I kind of 626 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: saw the Patriots as the kind of team that knew 627 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: how to judge talent on the pro field. Not great 628 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,479 Speaker 1: at judging talent on the college level and drafting them, 629 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: but good at as personal talent level at the pro level. 630 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: And to see them resign him, well, when it happened, 631 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: they signed him on the eve or virtually the eve 632 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: of free agency, which which, let's face it, they had 633 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: to do something if they were going to land those 634 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: two tight ends in free agency and the two receivers 635 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: in free agency, and they're coming in here and Jared 636 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: Stidham's the guy, they may not land an out, although 637 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: they probably would have given the market that we saw afterwards. Well, 638 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: they overpaid too exact. Maybe they had to, even with 639 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: Cam Newton roster, because all I know is if I'm 640 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: John new Smith and I'm going to watch Patriots games 641 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: and I'm watching Cam Newton bounce pass things, bounce past 642 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: ten yard outs, bounce passing ten yard out Steve, That's 643 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: not getting me excited. So you know what's gonna get 644 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: me excited? Eleven million a year will get me excited. 645 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: So why don't you overpay and then I'll come to 646 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: New England. Yeah, if you're John hu Smith, I mean 647 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: you'd rather you know what, I'll just take Ryan Tannehill. 648 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'll stay home. So you're right, But that's 649 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: that's what we were thinking. Um. But they had to 650 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: have somebody at quarterback because Jared Stidham was worse than 651 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: Cam when we saw him. I'll give you that. So 652 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: they But where are you as an organization if you're 653 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: signing Cam Newton and your main impetus is well, we 654 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: gotta have somebody at quarterback? Yeah, you're nowhere? Right then 655 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: there's still nowhere. It was Cam. They're they're not invested 656 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 1: in that guy. I don't know how much they invested. 657 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how much they guaranteed of his salary. 658 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: Any I'm sorry he can't play right, but they got 659 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: him and then they drafted Mac Jones. Let me just 660 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: say this, from what we saw of Cam Newton last year. 661 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: If Mac Jones can't get on the field with Cam Newton, 662 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: and I mean that's I give Cam Newton if he is, 663 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 1: because that's what it said about Jared's did him right? 664 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: I think mac Jones is better than Jared's did him. 665 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident of that mentally. Yeah, supposedly. I think 666 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: if the Bill, when the bill schedule comes out, if 667 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: the Bills are playing the Patriots for the first time 668 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: on their schedule anytime after Week four, they should expect 669 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: it to be mac Jones. I think that is almost 670 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: a given unless Cam Newton and his shoulder have found 671 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:44,479 Speaker 1: the fountain of youth somewhere. Yeah, I just don't see 672 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: it happening. ESPN don't ESPN NFL Nation Patriots reporter Mike 673 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: Greece is coming on. He had some interesting stuff. He 674 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: spoke to a guy we've had on the show, Mike Lombardi. 675 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: Lombardy made a good point because he's kind of he 676 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: was in Cleveland with Bill Belichick, kind of gets the 677 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: thought processing and he's still you know, acquainted, well acquainted 678 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: with Belichick and all those guys. He had a good 679 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: point to make about what the offense is going to 680 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: look like because if you got two quarterbacks and they 681 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: are completely different, i e. Cam Newton and mac Jones, 682 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: mac Jones, I mean, Cam Newton could run backwards, literally 683 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: run backwards faster than mac Jones can run forwards in 684 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: my opinion, you know, I mean, it's that kind of difference. 685 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is going to be in the pocket all 686 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: the time, and Cam Newton is what we've seen, He's 687 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: a running quarterback at this point in his career who 688 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: kind of can throw it. Mike Lombardi said that, and 689 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: I'll ask Mike grease about to expound on this also. 690 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: But they're not going to have to have two different offenses. 691 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: They are going to have to have two different running attacks. 692 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: The passing game will stay the same for Mac Jones 693 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: and Cam Newton, but Cam Newton will have an added 694 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: a dimension of quarterback runs on his menu that Mac 695 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: Jones won't. So it will be you can have the 696 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: exact same offense for Mac Jones and Cam Newton, but 697 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: when Cam Newton's in the game, you're gonna have the 698 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: threat of his you know, tucking the ball under his 699 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: arm and taken off with it that you don't have 700 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: with Mac Jones. And for Josh McDaniels, the offensive coordinator 701 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: up there, he'll have a little bit of a different menu, 702 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: a larger menu of pass plays that he'll run with 703 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: Mac Jones and a lesser run menu with Mac Jones, 704 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: and it's just the reverse of that with Cam Newton. 705 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 1: You'll have more run plays for Cam and fewer pass 706 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 1: plays or different kinds of pass plays for him, but 707 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: the offense will be the exact same, the plays, the terminology, 708 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: all of that, And I thought that was a really 709 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: good insight. So it's not like they're gonna have to 710 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: have two playbooks, one for Cam and one for Mac Jones, 711 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: which was a big issue for when you see him 712 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: draft Mac Jones. You can't imagine a guy more different 713 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: than Cam Newton than Mac Jones, right. I just wonder 714 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: how that transition is going to work for everybody else. 715 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: Is it to adjust for the players around them? When 716 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: you go from Cam one week with well, I guess 717 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: the game plan changes every week anyway, So what's the 718 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: hell is the difference? And they maybe it's not a 719 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: big deal. The players inside the locker room, they'll know 720 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: who's gonna be playing, and Belichick will lay out the 721 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: plan for him and they'll let them, you know, they'll 722 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: tell them so they'll know how to adjust and they 723 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: can do that during the week. It's it's not going 724 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: to be that big a different The question is can 725 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: they get enough reps with the guy they're going to 726 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: be on the field within a game to be good 727 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: at those reps. Yeah, that's and to execute. And that's 728 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: why even though I think the Patriots have a chance 729 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: to win more games this year, I just don't see 730 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: them as a major legitimate threat because of this dichotomy 731 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: that exists at the quarterback position, especially if they commit 732 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: to Cam early, because I don't see Cam going more 733 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: than a month into the season, all right. I just 734 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: think it's flat out not gonna work if they had 735 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: Cam Newton again. And I'll say Mac Jones breaks his 736 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: ankle in training camp fluke axe in like a like 737 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: a you know who who has the broke their ankle. 738 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: Somebody broke their ankle in the But anyway, would the 739 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: Patriots be better if they're gonna go with Cam Newton 740 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: like they did last year, stuck with him eighteen weeks? 741 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: Are they better this year than they were last year 742 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: with Cam the whole season? Yeah? No, really, they were 743 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: getting around. I disagree. I think they'll be I don't 744 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be able to score enough points. Their 745 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: defense will keep a minute. They better be giving up 746 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: less than seventeen a game. If they want to win 747 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: more than they will. They will, they'll, they'll give up 748 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: less than seventeen a game on a number of occasions. 749 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: I bet, I don't know. I think there'll be a 750 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: much better team. They didn't against this team with the 751 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: opt outs coming back Bills forty times a game and 752 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: scored twenty four on them. They didn't even throw like 753 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: they usually do. The first time they played him in 754 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: skills still scored twenty four points on that defense. So 755 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: that was a different defense. It was, it was, But 756 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, break time here when we come back. 757 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: Get your thoughts. It's on the tweet sheet on what 758 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: is your ideal Week one matchup for the Bills. You 759 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: want some primetime, you want the defending Super Bowl champs. 760 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: Let us know on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. 761 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: We'll be back with some of your answers when we return. 762 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 1: See in a second. Our partners at connect Life wanted 763 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: to make everyone aware there is a blood emergency right 764 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: now during this pandemic. They are in desperate need of 765 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: more blood donors. 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It 775 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: does not matter if you have been vaccinated for COVID. 776 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: Those donations can be made, so just look into it. 777 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: Connectlife dot org. Help out your community by donating some blood. 778 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: We want to get to the tweet sheet, which is 779 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment 780 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. As we have been 781 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: asking you today, what's your ideal matchup for the Bill 782 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: season opener? And why Bill says there are very overdue 783 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: or we are very overdue for a late window game 784 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: in Orchard Park hasn't happened since they played the Saints 785 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 1: here in October of two thousand and nine. The Toronto 786 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: games were almost always the late window game, and he's 787 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: right about that. As I mentioned, I don't think there 788 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: has been a season opener at home in prime time 789 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: since two thousand, which was the Bills Titans rematch from 790 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 1: the home run throwback game which the Bills won sixteen thirteen. 791 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: I'll have to check, but I believe that's correct. They've 792 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: been on the road for a Monday night opener. They 793 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: did that in New England in two thousand and nine. 794 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: That was the Leotis McKelvin fumble on the kickoff gameporter 795 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: for that game Westwood One. That was double oof with 796 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: that one. God, So there have been some but home 797 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: prime time week one. I'm trying to remember if there's 798 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: been one since too Maybe there is. I'll go check 799 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: the schedules in the next break the schedule history. But 800 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: I think I've got that right, but we'll have to 801 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: double check. It's been too long. Man got to get 802 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: a prime timer here right off the right off the jump. 803 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. I doesn't Okay, I'm neither here nor there. 804 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 1: With the good thing about prime Time Week one here 805 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: in Buffalo is the weather is still going to be 806 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: good for a night guy. The weather's game. I could 807 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: rain or whatever, but it should absolutely temperature wise. The 808 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: summers here, If in case you haven't noticed locally, the 809 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: summers are getting later. They arrived later when they hang 810 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: out later too. But um, yeah, I'm okay with it. 811 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,760 Speaker 1: I get I don't want it. I want a Sunday 812 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: at one game, Okay, I want like nine of those 813 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: Sunday at once. Fair enough, fair enough, give us five 814 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: pre give us five prime times and give him to 815 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 1: us on the road. Luke on the tweet sheet is 816 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 1: apparently in agreeing with you. Sunday at one pm is elite. 817 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling you because that you want to talk about 818 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: an environment, that's it midday, nobody's tired. You can see everything, 819 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's the outdoor environment, the tailgate environment, the endgame, 820 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, pre game, all that. It's just gonna be 821 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: off the charts. Give me a open the season one 822 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 1: o'clock on Sunday. If you want to do a home 823 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: game primetime, that's fine, but not on opening day. I 824 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: want to see the sunshine and the offense get introduced, 825 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: the last guys, number seventeen coming out of the tunnel. 826 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: That will carry you through at least I know the 827 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 1: value of that. I just want something that we haven't 828 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: had in a while. Yeah, I get it, And if 829 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm right about that, primetime week one home game thing. 830 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: That's way too long. Yeah, come on, what are we doing? 831 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: They've been Yeah, playoffs three out of the last four years. 832 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: It's a dependable organization. Now the one loss column. You know, 833 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: they're an entertaining team to watch. They whether you're a 834 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: Bills fan or not, they always put forth. They're rarely 835 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: at the center of a bad performance. Even if you 836 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: go back to the game the AFC Championship game, they're 837 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: They're an interesting team to watch. They're competitive all the time. 838 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: They're not going to go into any place and get 839 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: their heads handed to them. Now, they might not win 840 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: every game, but they're gonna look pretty good doing it. 841 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: The only time they didn't was in that stupid COVID 842 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: game in Tennessee last year where they chance of winning 843 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: that game. A day before that game, I could have 844 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 1: told you they were gonna get their hits. Well you did, 845 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: You told me that? I remember, I knew it. Yeah, 846 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 1: break time for us here when we return, we get 847 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: the four one one on the New England Patriots post draft, 848 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: what's that quarterspack situation gonna look like? How much rope 849 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: is Cam Newton getting Before Mac Jones steps into the lineup. 850 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: We will talk with the incomparable Mike Greece from ESPN 851 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: dot Com when we return here on One Bills Live 852 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a 853 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: Steve tester who has been all over the fields. Kind 854 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: of unique. He was kind of a dual role player 855 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: for you, d Steve a blimp. We're not even in 856 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: the strated here of normalcy. Here our number two on 857 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: a Tuesday, one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with 858 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: you talking about your ideal Week one matchup for the Bills. 859 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: You want some primetime action. You want to play the 860 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: defending Super Bowl champs in the kickoff game. Let us 861 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: know on the tweet cheater or at eight oh three 862 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: oh five fifty. But now we take some time to 863 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 1: look elsewhere in the division, and here to help us 864 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: do that is ESPN, NFL Nation, Patriots reporter contributed to 865 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: ESPN Sports Center and NFL Live. Heck, we've even seen 866 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: him on the Get Up Show with Mike Greenberg. It 867 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: is one Mike Grace joining us on the line. Mike, 868 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,280 Speaker 1: how you doing. How's the offseason treating you? This? Steve? 869 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,879 Speaker 1: It's been great. Patriots have been active and that makes 870 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: it all the more compelling. So and it's always great 871 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 1: being with you. I was thinking about how how often 872 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: we've done this over the years. I feel like you 873 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: guys are like old friends by now, that's right, Yeah, absolutely, 874 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: what's the vibe up there? I mean, it's got to 875 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: be a little more optimistic this year than it was 876 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 1: last year. But by the same time, how has Mac 877 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: James changed? Mac Jones changed that equation definitely, So I 878 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: would start with the vibe is like, what got into 879 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: you Bill Belichick spending all that free agent money, drafting 880 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round for the first time 881 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: ever in this coaching tenure, and then of course with 882 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: Mac Jones, it's actually been almost polarizing to a point. 883 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: You know, some people very excited the idea that you 884 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: finally have a path that you know, you're investing in 885 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: a first round quarterback, so you know that this is 886 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: the future, and it's just a matter of you know, 887 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: when that future starts. Is it now, is it next year, 888 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 1: is it two years from now? And then there's other 889 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: people who don't believe in Mac, you know, and I'm 890 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: more speaking to taking a temperature of the fans here 891 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: in the region who say, look, this is a guy 892 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: that played down at Alabama with you know, top players 893 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: like you know, anyone could have really been in that 894 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: situation and had success, and that maybe don't believe in 895 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: the pick. So it's actually created some interesting dynamics here 896 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 1: in New England to listen to how that's all unfolded. 897 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: And I know I'm asking you throw darts when I 898 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 1: ask you this, Mike, But I know a guy in 899 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,720 Speaker 1: the business who you know very well, Albert Breer, has 900 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: a chart that he keeps every year in terms of 901 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: how quickly first round quarterbacks get on the field, and 902 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: I believe the average over the last twenty years is 903 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: just under eight games and a first round pick will 904 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,439 Speaker 1: make his first NFL start. We know that Cam had 905 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 1: his share of issues throwing the football last year, compromise 906 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 1: the effectiveness on offense on that offense, no question about 907 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: it last year. So I don't know if we can 908 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: definitively say what kind of Cam we are going to 909 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: see this year, And that obviously factors into this question, 910 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:04,240 Speaker 1: But when can you realistically see Mac Jones on the field. 911 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 1: And let's go under the hypothetical that Cam doesn't look 912 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 1: dramatically improved from his performance last year. So Chris, I'll 913 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 1: give you my opinion and then I want to tell 914 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: you just sort of where it's at. From like a 915 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: pure reporting standpoint, My opinion is that it could be 916 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 1: as early as Week one. Yeah, Like, I feel like 917 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: the way this Patriots offense is, it's so much of 918 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: it is about, you know, pre snap recognition and putting 919 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: the offense in the best position to have the best 920 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,439 Speaker 1: play once the ball is snapped. And everyone talks about 921 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: Mac Jones intelligence four point oh GPA. He's been in 922 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: this type of system at Alabama all that stuff, so 923 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: it would not shock me. This is more opinion based. 924 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: If he comes in and shows a mastery early and 925 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: shows to the coaching staff, he's clearly the best choice. 926 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: So that's my opinion now where we are reporting wise. 927 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: The night the Patriots took Mac Jones, it was telling 928 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: to me that Bill Belichick, before he was even asked 929 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:11,360 Speaker 1: that question, in his opening statement, said Cam is our quarterback. 930 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,959 Speaker 1: And I took that as sort of like, don't even 931 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: ask me, like this is gonna be on my timeframe. 932 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's Cam right now until Mac or 933 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: he said Jared Stidham proves otherwise. So to me, that 934 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: was Bill Belichick sort of pushing back on Chris the 935 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: obvious question everyone wants to know, like how soon might 936 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: we see him? And Mike just spell this out for 937 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: me or explain this better if you can, Because while 938 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 1: I think there is a track record that hasn't been 939 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: all that impressive at the college scouting level in terms 940 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: of Patriots draft picks, I do hold that organization in 941 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: high regard in terms of assessing pro personnel around the league. 942 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: They seem to do a far better job of that 943 00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: than college scouting. So it's somewhat surprising to me that 944 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: after reviewing all of Cam Newton's snaps last season, that 945 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 1: they definitively come down and say Cam's the starter right now? 946 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,280 Speaker 1: Is there just a measure of respect they are trying 947 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: to pay to Cam Newton here more than anything else, 948 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: because it makes you scratch your head at least a 949 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: little bit to definitively say this guy's our starter because 950 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: of how we performed for us last year, So definitely respect. 951 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point. Bill Belichick has 952 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Cam coming in last year 953 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 1: playing for peanuts relative to what his resume was, and 954 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: really showing a lot of respect to the Patriots program 955 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: in everything he did and said, and he did win 956 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 1: over the respect of a lot of his teammates in 957 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 1: the process. So I do think there's a part of 958 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: this where Bill Belichick is saying, look, the respect cam 959 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 1: is shown to us, we want to reciprocate that. The 960 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: other part of it, I do think is to protect 961 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: Mac Jones from an expectations standpoint, we would all be 962 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: naive to say the Patriot's picked the player fifteenth overall 963 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,760 Speaker 1: and don't expect him to be the starter. At some point. 964 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 1: I think Bill Belichick wants to say, I'm going to 965 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 1: tell you when that point is, when I'm ready to 966 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: do it, don't even ask me. And I think that 967 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: was part of what he was saying as well. With 968 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: every young player like Mac Jones coming in, there's always 969 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's always question marks, but there's always those 970 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: reasons to be encouraged by his pick. You know, the 971 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: reasons you think, man, this guy could really play well. 972 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: Force it. And there's also the other side that I 973 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 1: don't know, and the people who say, hey played at Alabama, 974 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,879 Speaker 1: he had three first round or six first rounders off 975 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: that team are in the first twenty four picks of 976 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: the draft who could not be successful in that. But 977 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 1: I also heard some personnel people say, hey, listen, you 978 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 1: never saw those wide receivers making plays in Spider mac Jones. 979 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: He never forced them into great play. He was putting 980 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,479 Speaker 1: the ball on those guys. Certainly there was some space there, 981 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 1: but he was not not keeping up with them, you know. 982 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 1: He kept up with the talent around him at the 983 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver position, at the running back position, at the 984 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: offensive line position. He ran at a ProTeam. Which side 985 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 1: of the fish do you fall on? Certainly at this time, 986 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 1: everybody's optimistic about the guys they've just picked, but what 987 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: are your feelings about Mac himself? So, Steve, what I 988 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: try to do is like I try to talk to 989 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: people who are smarter than me, that know the Patriots system, 990 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 1: and then go by what they say. That's why we 991 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: had you on. That's what we have you on because 992 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: you're smarter than us. We want to know, right. I 993 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: love it. I love it so like Charlie Weiss as 994 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: an example, Charlie was a Patriots offensive coordinator here in 995 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 1: the early two thousands when the Patriots won three Super Bowls. 996 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: They're still running the same offensive system. Say what you 997 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: will about Charlie as a coach Notre Dame Kansas. I 998 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: know some people say, why would you value that opinion? 999 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: I value it because he was in this system and 1000 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: he knows what the Patriots look for at that position. 1001 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: And he told me back in February, it's like, if 1002 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: they can get mac Jones, like, they gotta go get 1003 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 1: mac Jones. He is what we would look for at 1004 00:57:55,240 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots in terms of accuracy, decision making intelligence. Todd 1005 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 1: McShay of ESPN, same thing, would would highlight those characteristics. 1006 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 1: Jim Nagee, a former Patriot scout now the executive director 1007 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: of the Senior Bowl, same thing. He had mack down 1008 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, and he said, this is a 1009 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: Patriot type of quarterback what they would look for. So, 1010 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, Steve, you asked me, like, what do you think? Like? 1011 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: I think what I think because I listened to them 1012 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: who have actually been in the Patriot system or know 1013 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: what you know, Really the Patriots are looking for and 1014 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: they think this is a good fit for them. Mac 1015 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: Jones isn't the only guy they plucked out of Alabama. 1016 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: Christian Barmore is another What do we make of you know, 1017 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: the reports that were out there about how coachable he was. 1018 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just some team trying to throw other teams 1019 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 1: off Barmore's scent to try to get him to slide 1020 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 1: down the board a little bit. We know those games 1021 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: that get played pre draft. I know that Belichick probably 1022 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 1: has the greatest and most trusted resource and resource in 1023 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 1: the college ranks he could ask for in Nick Saban, 1024 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: So I'm sure he got all his tea's crossed and 1025 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 1: eyes dotted on Barmore. So I'm sure Bill was asked 1026 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: that question. What was his answer about Barmore's coachability? First, Mike, 1027 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 1: and then second, where exactly do they anticipate him lining 1028 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 1: up on the front there for them? So start with 1029 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: this just bigger picture. They actually traded up for Barmore, 1030 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: So they're they're sitting at forty six in the second 1031 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: round and they go up to thirty eight to go 1032 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: get him and give up their second rounder and two 1033 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 1: fourth round picks. So I just relay that to let 1034 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, that's how that's the conviction that the Patriots 1035 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 1: are showing in getting They're not just drafting him, They're 1036 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 1: trading up and giving up assets to go get him. 1037 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: In terms of the coachability, here's what I not what 1038 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: they said, but what I've been told behind the scenes. 1039 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: More of maturity than anything. Like you know, like this 1040 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 1: a young kid who you know didn't even play that 1041 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: much at Alabama, so he obviously has some growth to do. 1042 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: And the point has always made to be like, hey, 1043 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 1: were you perfect when you were nineteen twenty, Like a 1044 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 1: lot of these kids coming in, they do have a 1045 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: lot of these questions, so they feel fine with that. 1046 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: And you mentioned the saving connection, which is really well said. 1047 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: And in terms of where he plays, Chris like this 1048 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: type of guy, like he can actually play in a 1049 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: lot of different spots they believe. But one thing that 1050 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: really impressed them was the way he was an interior 1051 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 1: penetrator at the heart of the line of scrimmage. So 1052 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: I would say, from a specific role standpoint, I could 1053 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: envision that being where they would sort of start him 1054 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 1: and seeing where it rose from there. And as the 1055 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 1: Patriots progress into this office further into this offseason, what 1056 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: are the thoughts about all the guys who opted out 1057 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 1: and the free agents they lost last year? Kyle van Noy, 1058 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Ted Carriss. You know, these guys that left for a year, 1059 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: got a big contract, and then Miami Dolphins kicked them 1060 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 1: back to the curb. Now they're back home in New England. 1061 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 1: And the guys that opted out, this looks to be 1062 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 1: much more a much more veteran roster and a much 1063 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: more experienced roster, at least in the Patriot frame of mind, 1064 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 1: or you know, the veterans with Patriots than it was 1065 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 1: last year. Right right on the money, Steve, and so 1066 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: start with the opt outs coming back. Really it's it's 1067 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: one player that I would highlight, and it's Dante high Tower, 1068 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, their signal caller at the heart of the defense. 1069 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: He opted out last year, didn't play. They had lost 1070 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 1: you know, multiple linebackers. That was a void for them. 1071 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,919 Speaker 1: You get him back, and Bill Belichick calls a mister 1072 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 1: February because of his clutch play and Super Bowls. So 1073 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,760 Speaker 1: start like, that's the one on the opt outs I 1074 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 1: would start with. And then in terms of the other 1075 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: players like Kyle van noy coming back, a bigger picture again, 1076 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: they feel like the competition that they have will get 1077 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: them back to sort of a core foundational principle of 1078 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: their program, which is no one's promised anything, you have 1079 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: to go earn it, and there's a competition to do that, 1080 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 1: and they feel like their depth across the board is 1081 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: so much better to promote that where they're not drafting 1082 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: a guy and saying, oh, yeah, Devin ASIASI a tight 1083 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: third round we traded up for, we're gonna need you 1084 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: to be our number one tight end. Like no, you know, 1085 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: they feel like they're much better equipped now to let 1086 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 1: the competition sort of dictate who plays. And then Ronnie 1087 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Perkins was a guy that I liked coming out like 1088 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: a true alpha dog kind of player, Like I just 1089 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: in researching his background going into the draft, the fact 1090 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: that he walks on campus at Oklahoma as a freshman 1091 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 1: and he's telling guys what's what and really kind of 1092 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 1: grabbing a leadership role early in his college career. And 1093 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: now the Patriots get him all the way. I think 1094 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 1: it was the fourth round. They got him so much 1095 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 1: later than I think a lot of people anticipated him 1096 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 1: coming off the board. And you know, in the three 1097 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 1: to four I'm assuming he's at that outside linebacker position. 1098 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: He's going to rush from there. What has been said 1099 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: about about him and their selection and why they saw 1100 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 1: him as a fit. So, Chris, he was ninety sixth overall. 1101 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 1: That was actually the pick the Patriots got compensatory wise 1102 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 1: for losing Tom Brady. So good good luck with those 1103 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 1: expectations Ronnie. Right, So yeah, so they just sat there 1104 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 1: and he fell to them. And we have this analytics 1105 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: at ESPN where they have this like draft prediction, and 1106 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 1: it was a one percent chance that Ronnie Perkins would 1107 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 1: be available at ninety six, which speaks to your point 1108 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: that you know, you would have thought he would have 1109 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: been off the board earlier. Why wasn't he He had 1110 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 1: a suspension at Oklahoma, reportedly for a failed drug test. 1111 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 1: I had asked Bill Belichick about that again speaking to 1112 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: sort of the maturity we mentioned with Christian Barmore, and 1113 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 1: he said, we're comfortable obviously with Ronnie Perkins. We picked him, 1114 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 1: So I think that's one reason why he slipped. And 1115 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 1: to Steve's point, like they got Kyle van Noy, Matthew Judeon, 1116 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Chase Winovic at that outside linebacker spot, so like Ronnie 1117 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: Perkins like he might play this year, he might not, 1118 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 1: but they've increased their depth in the competition so that 1119 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: he can sort of be brought in and eased into 1120 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: the mix, and whatever he gets, he'll earn at that 1121 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 1: rush position. You've also written about, you know, the entire 1122 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: draft class of every NFL team gets scrutinized. But you 1123 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 1: also mentioned their late round draft pick that's not going 1124 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,919 Speaker 1: to see the field is Cameron mcgron. Who and they've 1125 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know this, didn't realize it, but the Patriots 1126 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 1: have kind of got a history of picking guys with 1127 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 1: maybe some questions about their health, but they've gotten some 1128 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,439 Speaker 1: really good results with trusting that the human body, sooner 1129 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 1: or later is gonna heal heal, and they will just 1130 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 1: be patient enough to wait on guys this Cameron mcgron, 1131 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 1: Is he going to be one of those guys that 1132 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 1: maybe joins a pretty illustrious list. Oh, Steve, I I 1133 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 1: love that you reference the piece from this morning. So 1134 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 1: a fifth round linebacker from Michigan who tore his ACL 1135 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: November twenty first. So here the Patriots are sitting there, 1136 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,439 Speaker 1: I think it was picked one seventy seven, and they say, 1137 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: we probably won't be ready. You know, Cameron mcgrown won't 1138 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 1: be ready this year, so we'll sort of look ahead 1139 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two as a possible developmental prospect, and 1140 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 1: they've they've had had some success with that in the past. 1141 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 1: Going back to I mean, I go back to Curtis 1142 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: Martin when he was coming out at Pittsburgh in the nineties. 1143 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he had only played two games his final 1144 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: year at Pittsburgh and look what he became. Rob Gronkowski 1145 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,160 Speaker 1: another good example, right, Like, didn't even play his final 1146 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 1: year at Arizona due to back problems and he ended 1147 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 1: up having a great career and is still going. So 1148 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: that was an interesting pick in that regard. I would 1149 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 1: almost compare it to like Matt Milano, not from the 1150 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 1: health standpoint, but if you can hit on a linebacker 1151 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: in the fifth round, develop him, get him resigned like 1152 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: the Bills did. Credit to them. That's sort of when 1153 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 1: you know you have your program going in the right direction. 1154 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 1: Patriots hope that's what results from that pick. Right Talking 1155 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 1: to ESPN Patriots reporter Mike Reece, and Mike, where do 1156 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: we land with the Stefan Gilmour situation here? We know 1157 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 1: how much there has been smoke about him getting traded 1158 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: that didn't happen draft weekend, as we well know, is 1159 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 1: there going to be another time here in this offseason, 1160 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 1: maybe training camp, if there's a rash of injury somewhere 1161 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 1: else at a cornerback position for a team that's quote 1162 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 1: unquote going forward. Perhaps when do we expect the needle 1163 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: to be moving again on the possibility of a trade 1164 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 1: coming to fruition. So I think Stefan Gilmore Chris will 1165 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 1: be the one that sort of determines that time frame. 1166 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 1: And here's why he's got to do a base salary 1167 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 1: of seven million this year. It was twelve million, but 1168 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots advanced him about five million last year, so 1169 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 1: they took five million of his salary from this year 1170 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: and gave it to him in advance. Hard for me 1171 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 1: to think that Stefan would want to play for seven million. 1172 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,800 Speaker 1: So I would say mandatory mini camp in June mid June. 1173 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 1: Does Stephan show up or does he make a statement 1174 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,040 Speaker 1: by saying, look like we gotta get this moving along 1175 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 1: to a point where I feel comfortable coming back and 1176 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: playing for this If what we perceive and what we 1177 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 1: speculate is indeed an issue, because he hasn't said Chris 1178 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 1: said he won't play for it, I think we're just 1179 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: using common sense. So I think to me that that's 1180 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: really the answer to the question. And that was something 1181 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 1: during the draft that we wondered would a team come 1182 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: after Stephan? But I think the cap space around the 1183 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 1: league being so tight, and knowing that you're not just 1184 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 1: acquiring Stefan but you got to sign into an extension, 1185 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 1: maybe that sort of lessened the interest or the market 1186 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: from others coming after him. Last one from me, Mike 1187 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: can forgive us here in Western New York for like 1188 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 1: looking sideways at the Patriots and everything that comes out 1189 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 1: of there with a little bit of a jaundiced eye. 1190 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 1: Last year at this time, Bill Belichick said, hey, Jared's 1191 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 1: did him? We like him? This year? And they signed camp. 1192 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 1: This year they're saying, hey, Cam's our guy, and do 1193 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: we believe it? Or is this and how much are 1194 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: they already have they guaranteed anything to Cam Newton? Or 1195 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 1: is this a chance where we may never see Cam 1196 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 1: Newton take another snap for the Patriots. Even so, yeah, 1197 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,240 Speaker 1: and I certainly I think your point as well. Take it. 1198 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 1: I like to judge by the actions as much as 1199 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 1: what anyone says, and that's anywhere Steve right, And so 1200 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 1: what they've guaranteed them is three point five million. And 1201 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 1: if you are like me and you say follow the money, 1202 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 1: because that will oftentimes lead us to the answer. To me, 1203 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 1: that's not a huge total to say like that, they 1204 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't move on, you know if Mac Jones or Jared's 1205 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Didham show that they're better. And so I'm gonna play 1206 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 1: the hypothetical game here. Let's say Mac Jones comes in 1207 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,280 Speaker 1: and just lights it up. I could envision a hypothetical 1208 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 1: scenario where Bill Belichick goes to Cam and says, thank 1209 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 1: you for everything you've done. We're going to make the 1210 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 1: decision to go with Mac. What do you want, Like, 1211 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 1: do you want to stay as a backup? Or is 1212 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 1: that something that doesn't you know, appeal to you? And 1213 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 1: if not, like, we'll work with you because you were 1214 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 1: working with us, And I think that would be the 1215 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: thought I have, like and nothing would surprise me, Steve 1216 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: like either way or whatever direction that situation heads. On 1217 01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of a lighter note here, Mike, the 1218 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 1: NFL schedule, we know what's coming out tomorrow night. What 1219 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 1: is the level of anticipation in the New England area 1220 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 1: for the Tampa at New England game. Brady's return. I 1221 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,200 Speaker 1: was reading a piece this morning Chris some one of 1222 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,759 Speaker 1: the local websites with one of the ticket dealers based 1223 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 1: out of Boston, saying that they believe it's going to 1224 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 1: be the hottest ticket in the history of sports, like 1225 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 1: not just football, and the idea being like there's been 1226 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: no closure, right, no one has got to say like 1227 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 1: goodbye to him, right like the way it happened, this 1228 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 1: is your chance, you know, And so like the idea 1229 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: that if you have that ticket, would you really like 1230 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,559 Speaker 1: give that up? Would you really sell it? So the 1231 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,800 Speaker 1: idea that the price for that ticket might be as 1232 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 1: high as any ticket ever is it intriguing to me? 1233 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of excitement that's here 1234 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 1: that's saying something in Boston, like bigger than Red Sox 1235 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: World Series tickets, like bigger than Celtics Lakers. In the aid, 1236 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,559 Speaker 1: He's like, wow, what what is your do you think? 1237 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady jogs to the end of the field and says, 1238 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 1: so let's go, you know, just like he did remember 1239 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,240 Speaker 1: the pay too, which does he do that just for 1240 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 1: old time's sake? Steve? That would be great. I haven't 1241 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 1: thought about it. What I was actually thinking about was 1242 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 1: when it's gonna fall on the schedule, Like is it 1243 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,800 Speaker 1: a scuba suit game where it could be like December 1244 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,679 Speaker 1: and zero degrees and you know, you get Tampa Tom 1245 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,160 Speaker 1: back now, like who's used to the warm weather and 1246 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,560 Speaker 1: you get him back in that cold weather gear. Or 1247 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 1: is it like early in the season or is it 1248 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 1: like those old Peyton Tom games that used to fall 1249 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 1: in like early November because the TV networks knew like 1250 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 1: if we place it here, this is where we'll get 1251 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 1: the peak ratings. So but I hadn't thought about like 1252 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,439 Speaker 1: what it will be like that day or night. I 1253 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,439 Speaker 1: assume it's gonna be a primetime game and how he 1254 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,160 Speaker 1: will respond to it. That that's just gonna be amazing. Yeah, 1255 01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like old home Days between him and Gronk. 1256 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 1: So crazy. Um, Mike's as always, thanks for the time. 1257 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 1: We appreciate the expertise. As always. We'll catch up with 1258 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 1: you down the line here. Thanks, take it easy, all right, 1259 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,000 Speaker 1: be good, Thanks guys, You bet all right. That's Mike 1260 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: Rees ESPN Patriots beat reporter incomparable guy up there. Nobody 1261 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 1: covers it like him up there with that team. So yeah, 1262 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 1: I thought we'd have a little fun with him at 1263 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 1: the end with that game. Hottest ticket in Boston's sports history. 1264 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 1: They're saying, yea like Steve Teams seven of the Steve. 1265 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,759 Speaker 1: We're talking about a historic sports town. Didn't Boston didn't 1266 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,360 Speaker 1: like Kurt Schilling on the mound? Yeah, bloody sock game. Like, 1267 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they've been to World Series recently, and you know, 1268 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 1: there was a long drought before the went back to 1269 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 1: that was like iconic moment in Boston won the World 1270 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 1: Series since nineteen seventeen. But then there wasn't two thousand 1271 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 1: and four, Like that was a hot ticket. Let's transpose 1272 01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:00,519 Speaker 1: it this game. Yeah, what had happened, and not only 1273 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,799 Speaker 1: by Brady has helped transform that city into a football 1274 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: city because it was a baseball It was baseball all 1275 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: the way, and it was not even close even with 1276 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 1: all the Celtics success. It was still baseball first. It 1277 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: may be different now there's a whole generation of people. 1278 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,840 Speaker 1: I think it's different for Oh, and that takes it 1279 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 1: takes that generation passing it on to their kids. And 1280 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 1: that thing about kids who are eighteen twenty years old 1281 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 1: in that city, they don't know what losing is. They 1282 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,680 Speaker 1: don't know what suffering is. They've seen each of their 1283 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 1: teams win a championship that's right in their lifetime. That's insane. 1284 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 1: I think that's it's big for because you can certainly 1285 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,679 Speaker 1: Buffalo fans here in the city can relate to what 1286 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 1: that's like of having a handed down generation after generation 1287 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 1: after generation, and the success that you see as a 1288 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:52,720 Speaker 1: young kid, it permeates you. You know, you remember it 1289 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 1: and like the kids that the people that were kids 1290 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 1: in the nineties and all of that, it's still a 1291 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: part of Now their kids are here and there. You know, 1292 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 1: it's a whole new generation with this success that has 1293 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,959 Speaker 1: started to latch onto it. Now, think about this in Boston, 1294 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:12,200 Speaker 1: and this isn't about baseball, but football is front and 1295 01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,479 Speaker 1: center everywhere. Yeah, And whether you're in Boston or New 1296 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,759 Speaker 1: York and there's a baseball towns, there's football is front 1297 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,640 Speaker 1: and center of all the electronic media platforms anywhere in 1298 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 1: this country. And when you watch the game, there is 1299 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 1: no comparison to the action and to the you know, 1300 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 1: to what's going on. So I don't, you know, I 1301 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,080 Speaker 1: think Boston's gonna stay. What I'm saying is I guess 1302 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 1: Boston's gonna stay a football town, is my guess. Well, 1303 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:47,719 Speaker 1: provided they remain relatively successful. You know, um yeah, Brady 1304 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,480 Speaker 1: made it that way. That Brady changed the rooting dynamics 1305 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,840 Speaker 1: of Boston as a sports city in terms of what 1306 01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,679 Speaker 1: was priority number one, what's you're the leagues? The leagues 1307 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 1: file also helped that too, as you pointed out. I 1308 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 1: wonder if it stays there though, if the Patriots continue 1309 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: to be middle of the road to occasional playoff participant 1310 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 1: because they can't find that quarterback, I could see it 1311 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,439 Speaker 1: going right back to being a baseball city from first 1312 01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:29,240 Speaker 1: place right now. Ultimately, how do you think Brady affects 1313 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 1: the legacy of Belichick? Is he is to shine off 1314 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 1: or is he still If Belichick does not win a 1315 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 1: Super Bowl without Tom Brady as a head coach, it 1316 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 1: will affect his legacy. I do believe that. As as 1317 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,000 Speaker 1: much respect as I have for Belichick as a brilliant 1318 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 1: defensive mind, I mean we should not forget he won 1319 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,559 Speaker 1: two Super Bowls before he got to New England as 1320 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. One time, I think because like a 1321 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 1: thirty two year old defensive coordinator in Super Bowl twenty 1322 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:10,840 Speaker 1: five So he's a first ballot Hall of Famer, there 1323 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,000 Speaker 1: is no question about that. And he's probably going to 1324 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 1: retire as the winning his coach of all time. But 1325 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,559 Speaker 1: there will be those questions if he does not win 1326 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 1: the Big One without Brady. He will, he will. Brady 1327 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:29,720 Speaker 1: will be seen as the ultimate facilitator to those championships. Yeah, 1328 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,640 Speaker 1: and the fact that Brady has gone on in one 1329 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:40,719 Speaker 1: one without Belichick only raises Brady's profile. Does does Bruce Arians? 1330 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Does he like enhance Brady's cache? Because who's Bruce? You know? 1331 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 1: I think Brady enhances Arians cache. We Arians has worked 1332 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,559 Speaker 1: with a lot of great quarterbacks. I mean Roethlisberger, Manning, 1333 01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 1: he got the Arizona Cardinals the Super Bowl. D No, 1334 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:05,040 Speaker 1: he didn't take to the Super Bowl? Yeah with with Warner, right, Yeah, 1335 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:10,559 Speaker 1: he was there with so yeah. Or was that or 1336 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,800 Speaker 1: was that wizzen Hunt with I think wizen Hunt was 1337 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: the head coach and Arians was the coordinator. I got 1338 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,840 Speaker 1: a check on that anyway. But He's worked with a 1339 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,439 Speaker 1: lot of good a lot of good quarterbacks. Because this 1340 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 1: is all when you're talking about Brady and Belichick and 1341 01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,840 Speaker 1: the two decades of the past, this recent past, it's 1342 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,639 Speaker 1: historic stuff and what is how it's viewed going forward 1343 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,000 Speaker 1: is going to be I think really interesting to see, 1344 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,840 Speaker 1: much like the teams I was on have gotten more 1345 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 1: more attractive and more favorably observed in as the further 1346 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 1: they get into the past than they were at the time. 1347 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 1: The remains time. The fact remains this great head coaches 1348 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:56,800 Speaker 1: all had great players to be as successful as they were, 1349 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,799 Speaker 1: no doubt, Phil Jackson and Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant 1350 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 1: and Shaq O'Neill, you know, and won eleven championships as 1351 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,800 Speaker 1: a coach. I mean, come on, like what it wasn't 1352 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,320 Speaker 1: just it? It wasn't just yeah, you know what I mean? 1353 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,639 Speaker 1: Pat Riley with Magic and yeah, Kareem and yeah, Casey 1354 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,800 Speaker 1: Jones with Bird and McHale and Parish, Like you need 1355 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:23,120 Speaker 1: great players to win championships, especially multiple championships. But when 1356 01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,280 Speaker 1: you have the best that's ever done it as your 1357 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 1: quarterback in football, I'm not saying it takes the luster 1358 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 1: off of Belichick's accomplishments, but it certainly allows you to 1359 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 1: present the argument that when you have won six without Brady, 1360 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, are they coming back from twenty 1361 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,680 Speaker 1: eight to three without Brady. I don't think I'll say this, 1362 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean, sixth round or not. He still gets credit 1363 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 1: for picking the guy and putting him on the field, okay, 1364 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,439 Speaker 1: in place of Drew Bledsoe who just signed one hundred 1365 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,519 Speaker 1: million dollars contract, right and trading that guy right within 1366 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,960 Speaker 1: his division. But that guy still had to do it 1367 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 1: for you on the field. Oh yeah, it'll be interesting. 1368 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 1: They're both first ballot guys. I mean, yeah, there's no 1369 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 1: debate about that. They're both iconic names in the league 1370 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 1: and will remain so. But I just thought it's interesting 1371 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,559 Speaker 1: to see how they're going to be viewed and happy. Well, 1372 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 1: here's the compared to you always putting Brady and Belichick together, 1373 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick together, Now it's now they're separate. Here's 1374 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:21,880 Speaker 1: the way to look at it. Shula and Greasy. Okay, 1375 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,720 Speaker 1: who's got the bigger shine there. It's Shula and it's 1376 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,040 Speaker 1: not even close. But that's because the game was different. 1377 01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,439 Speaker 1: Then it was a run the ball and throw it 1378 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,200 Speaker 1: fifteen times a game. It'd be more like Shula Zonka 1379 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,720 Speaker 1: well right, you know, but now it's now because of 1380 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 1: the way the game is played. You wonder if Brady 1381 01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,280 Speaker 1: gets more of the shine than Belichick does, because it's 1382 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,720 Speaker 1: a throwing league. Yeah, and so I wonder if the 1383 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 1: dynamics are flipped because of that man, because it's Shula 1384 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 1: over Greasy and it's not even close, you know, Brady 1385 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 1: Belich is it might be it's probably Brady. It's probably Brady. 1386 01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,120 Speaker 1: Think about it. Even though Belichick's probably gonna be the 1387 01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,800 Speaker 1: winning This is really interesting. We don't have time to 1388 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 1: get in all this, but think about it's it's Chuck Noll, 1389 01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:10,120 Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw, It's Bill Walsh, Joe Montana. You know, you 1390 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,000 Speaker 1: think about who gets that, and it's kind of I 1391 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,760 Speaker 1: think it's kind of a coin flip with Chuck Nole, 1392 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw because of their defense and because of that, 1393 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,040 Speaker 1: but because of their defense, Bill Walsh, Joe Montana, that's 1394 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 1: probably a deady. It's Joe Montana. To me, it's probably 1395 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,840 Speaker 1: dead even there. All right, we gotta break this break here, debate. 1396 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,280 Speaker 1: We'll talk about more. I want to continue that conversation 1397 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 1: when we come back here on one Bill's Live, presented 1398 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:45,720 Speaker 1: by Collid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. So we'll 1399 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,559 Speaker 1: still take your phone calls at eight three five fifty 1400 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,000 Speaker 1: on your ideal matchup for the Bill's season opener, whether 1401 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 1: it's Thursday night at the Bucks primetime home game, or 1402 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,559 Speaker 1: playing at the Chiefs or something else. But Steve and 1403 01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 1: I kind of got into this conversation about the Brady 1404 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 1: Belichick legacy and how each of them will be impacted 1405 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:09,400 Speaker 1: by the other after our conversation with ESPN Patriots reporter 1406 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 1: Mike Reece, and we got into the other famous head 1407 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 1: coach quarterback tandems in the over the history of the league. 1408 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 1: Whether it's Greasy and Shula, Montana and Walsh was another 1409 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,920 Speaker 1: one that was brought up. Steve thinks it's Montana all 1410 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,120 Speaker 1: the way, and I beg to differ. I think it's 1411 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:32,680 Speaker 1: kind of a dead heat kind of race there. Montana's 1412 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:37,679 Speaker 1: four Super Bowls don't look nearly as impressive after Brady's 1413 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 1: won seven. But the reason I think it is a 1414 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:48,200 Speaker 1: dead heat with those two is because of the what's 1415 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:52,040 Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for pioneer that Bill Walsh was 1416 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:58,559 Speaker 1: in the history of this game. He granted, drew a 1417 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of his principles from the Paul Brown school of football, 1418 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:11,280 Speaker 1: but he developed an offensive system that was still being 1419 01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 1: used across the league for the better part of the 1420 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:18,639 Speaker 1: next twenty years after he was done coaching. I don't 1421 01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 1: know if there's any other coach in the history of 1422 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,120 Speaker 1: the league whose offensive system permeated the rest of the 1423 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:29,120 Speaker 1: league the way Bill Walsh's did, and for as long 1424 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 1: as it did. Corrielle and Tommy Prothos, those guys back 1425 01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,040 Speaker 1: in the day, and it was different then. I mean 1426 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 1: they started throwing it just because you know, they exploited 1427 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,439 Speaker 1: the rules. Because men before that, it was probably some 1428 01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 1: stuff in the running game from you know who knows, 1429 01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,479 Speaker 1: like Bet Vince Lombardi or whatever. Um, certainly you look 1430 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,879 Speaker 1: back at that quarterback head coach Tan and Vince Lombardi 1431 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,320 Speaker 1: or Bart Starr. Yeah, I mean it's got to be 1432 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 1: BARTI I mean, they got the trophy named after him, 1433 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 1: and I've got Roger, Roger Staubach and Tom Landry. I 1434 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,760 Speaker 1: think the I think that straight winning seasons, right. I 1435 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:07,519 Speaker 1: think the head coaches that come from defensive backgrounds suffer 1436 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:12,759 Speaker 1: a bit in terms of comparing the legacies of those 1437 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:18,320 Speaker 1: men against their franchise quarterbacks. I think their legacies suffer 1438 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 1: a bit because they're not given their due credit in 1439 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:26,480 Speaker 1: helping to develop and put those quarterbacks in positions to succeed, 1440 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:31,840 Speaker 1: because the general assumption going in is, well, how much 1441 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,000 Speaker 1: did they really nurture those guys? Wasn't it the coordinator? 1442 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,280 Speaker 1: And I think that is a little short sighted, But 1443 01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,599 Speaker 1: they do fall victim to that, and I think Landry 1444 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 1: is an example of that, and maybe even to a 1445 01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:49,080 Speaker 1: certain extent, Belichick is a victim of that, right wrong 1446 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,880 Speaker 1: or indifferent. I think when all is said and done, 1447 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,080 Speaker 1: Brady is going to have more shine than Belichick just 1448 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,280 Speaker 1: by virtue of the fact that he won seven freaking 1449 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, like almost twice as many as the next 1450 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,160 Speaker 1: most accomplished quarterbacks in the history of the game. You're 1451 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,439 Speaker 1: talking Branshaw Montana. I think the biggest thing is he 1452 01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,720 Speaker 1: switched teams in right away won one. Yeah, I mean 1453 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,800 Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing for a team who it's been 1454 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 1: decades since they've been to their last one. You think 1455 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,040 Speaker 1: about what about what about quarterback head coach like Jimmy 1456 01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:23,160 Speaker 1: Johnson Troy Aikman, Right, it's gotta be Troy, because Jimmy 1457 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:27,800 Speaker 1: was only there for two of them. Yeah, you know, 1458 01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:34,200 Speaker 1: Barry Switzer, think about that for just a minute. Did 1459 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,320 Speaker 1: you always well, since you grew up in that area 1460 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,240 Speaker 1: of the country, you know, when Barry Switzer was doing 1461 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 1: doing his thing at Oklahoma. Oh you, Nebraska was big 1462 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:48,759 Speaker 1: because I were. What was the general consensus on Barry 1463 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,040 Speaker 1: Switzer as a coach, because I can tell you from 1464 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:56,080 Speaker 1: the East coast the general feeling about Barry Switzer was 1465 01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:02,360 Speaker 1: tremendous recruiter, not a great head coach. What is your 1466 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,840 Speaker 1: thought on that? Was that the general consensus in the 1467 01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:06,600 Speaker 1: middle of the country too, where he was tearing it 1468 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,760 Speaker 1: up and absolutely, okay, absolutely, and he was and he 1469 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 1: had you know, a staff that took carol. He was 1470 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 1: a recruiter. Yeah, and he recruited. He got guys to 1471 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 1: come to Oklahoma who you know wouldn't otherwise. So he 1472 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:24,200 Speaker 1: was more salesman than coach. Yes, where I would argue 1473 01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:30,439 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson was both. Yes, Jimmy Johnson I still don't 1474 01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,599 Speaker 1: think gets enough credit for us for how smart he was, right, 1475 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. And he had a borderline and 1476 01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:44,320 Speaker 1: he also had yes, exactly like sorderline, genius level thinker 1477 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,880 Speaker 1: in terms of football. And he also I think his 1478 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 1: genius how to coach it, how to build it? Yeah, 1479 01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,519 Speaker 1: and he built it He had a staff that was together. 1480 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Butch you know, he had yes, some guys, yeah, 1481 01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:00,439 Speaker 1: Butch Davis, he had North Dave want stat he had 1482 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,320 Speaker 1: some guys on that staff that knew what they were 1483 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,559 Speaker 1: doing and he and I think one thing that Jimmy 1484 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,760 Speaker 1: did was like he took he looked at fresh eyes. 1485 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 1: He's the innovator of the draft value draft pick value chart. 1486 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,559 Speaker 1: Now it's been honed and yeah, but still he's the 1487 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,599 Speaker 1: first guy to do it. He also had the ability 1488 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 1: also to delegate some stuff. He would tell his head 1489 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:21,639 Speaker 1: coach to like, do this, do that, and he would 1490 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 1: give him some direction and then let him do it. 1491 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:32,479 Speaker 1: He also was the total, total energized guy, and he 1492 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,240 Speaker 1: handled his players in a way that a lot of 1493 01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 1: head coaches don't have the ability to do. He says, listen, 1494 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 1: if yeah, I treat a lot of all you players 1495 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,680 Speaker 1: differently from one another, don't I'm not gonna apologize for it. 1496 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,519 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna treat Troy Aikman the way I treat 1497 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,040 Speaker 1: you over there. Just live with it. That's the way 1498 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be. Because you're getting paid to produce, and 1499 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: if you produce, you're gonna get your tummy rubbed and 1500 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:57,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna get patted on the head and all that, 1501 01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,360 Speaker 1: but don't expect to be treated like Troy Aikman. And 1502 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,519 Speaker 1: that's that's the way it is nowadays. You don't treat 1503 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,599 Speaker 1: these guys the same. Now. You you love them all 1504 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 1: to do that, you push them, but you you know, 1505 01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 1: it's let's not fool ourselves into thinking, hey, we're just 1506 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,000 Speaker 1: because you're making twenty million dollars doesn't mean you have 1507 01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:18,400 Speaker 1: a bigger voice, bro, Yes it does. Yeah, So Jimmy 1508 01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 1: was the first guy to do that too. It's kind 1509 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:24,160 Speaker 1: of like old school up until that time. Now, he's 1510 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 1: the one that set it out loud. A lot of 1511 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:31,880 Speaker 1: teams knew it, but he didn't overthink things. But he 1512 01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 1: did it a way that was really smart and did 1513 01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 1: it decisively, and that overcame a lot of whatever problems 1514 01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,120 Speaker 1: there were that moved that. The trade they made with 1515 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:46,560 Speaker 1: herschel Walker, it was bold. It was highway robbery, absolutely, 1516 01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 1: But you know what, if you've got to if you 1517 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,479 Speaker 1: go out there and he's the one that held the 1518 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,599 Speaker 1: cards and he played them right. I mean a lot 1519 01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,960 Speaker 1: of these things, like they start up in the andy, 1520 01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,679 Speaker 1: you start getting them well, let's take it. Well, let's 1521 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 1: just no. He's like, well's to wait because we're in 1522 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,600 Speaker 1: no hurry to get rid of herschel And it was, 1523 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, he just did a lot of things really smart. 1524 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,400 Speaker 1: And you can say what you wanted about his personality 1525 01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:12,840 Speaker 1: and all of that, but but man, old man, the 1526 01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,000 Speaker 1: guy put together a team that won two Super four 1527 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, and two of them he wasn't even there. 1528 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:24,639 Speaker 1: I mean, that's to me, the Troy Aikman Jimmy Johnson question, 1529 01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,240 Speaker 1: which ones I don't know, You're right, I think a Jimmy's. 1530 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 1: I think Jimmy had a greater lasting impact on the league. Yeah, 1531 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,200 Speaker 1: I do too, And I forget That's why I would 1532 01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,880 Speaker 1: put him ahead of Aikman. And I would even put 1533 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,880 Speaker 1: Walsh ahead of Montana. And I believe me, Montana was 1534 01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:47,639 Speaker 1: right in my adolescent wheelhouse, like he was the stuff, right, 1535 01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, when I was What you think about this? Um? 1536 01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:54,920 Speaker 1: All right? What about this? What about jim Kelly Moore 1537 01:27:54,920 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 1: of Levy? Good question, because for here, and this is 1538 01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,000 Speaker 1: like choosing between your family members. You know, yeah, you 1539 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:09,000 Speaker 1: can't do I can't. That's tough. And the because you 1540 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,600 Speaker 1: can't even go to the you can't even go to 1541 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:16,000 Speaker 1: the well, Jim, you know, revolutionize the passing game in 1542 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,400 Speaker 1: a different league before we even got to the NFL. 1543 01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 1: But then you could say, well, Marv one championships in 1544 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,240 Speaker 1: the CFL before we got to the NFL. It's like 1545 01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:30,720 Speaker 1: they both like trans transcended leagues and one that's a 1546 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,280 Speaker 1: hard one. Steve, that's a showy I save that for 1547 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,640 Speaker 1: the dead time. Yeah, it is. It's good because I 1548 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,559 Speaker 1: both those I got to really think I love them 1549 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,960 Speaker 1: both like family members. Jim. You can make the argument 1550 01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,839 Speaker 1: too that Jim had the help of Bruce and Corneius 1551 01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,439 Speaker 1: and Andre not that, but all that goes into Marv's 1552 01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 1: side of it, and Marv had Bill, you know, helping 1553 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:51,720 Speaker 1: him put it to that. You go too. Yeah, I 1554 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,120 Speaker 1: mean that's six time Executive of the Year. That doesn't hurt. 1555 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,479 Speaker 1: All right, we have to take a break. That's a 1556 01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,400 Speaker 1: good one. Another day, it's good question break. I'm here 1557 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,519 Speaker 1: at the five president see what they say, Oh, that 1558 01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:08,639 Speaker 1: would be juicy. Rebby Moore's birthday to day, Happy birthday. 1559 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,120 Speaker 1: There you go. We have to take a break back 1560 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,320 Speaker 1: with more Here on one Bills Live, presented by Collid 1561 01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:26,519 Speaker 1: of health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one 1562 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,720 Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown Steve to ask her with you 1563 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:33,280 Speaker 1: got deep in the weeds on some interesting conversations about 1564 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,080 Speaker 1: quarterback and head coach or a quarterback end head coach 1565 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:42,559 Speaker 1: legacies after our conversation with Mike Reese ESPN Patriots reporter 1566 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,040 Speaker 1: and Steve brought it up and then we went down 1567 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,040 Speaker 1: a path and just kept on truck and we ended 1568 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 1: up in the weeds. That's fine, that's fine. I thought 1569 01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,200 Speaker 1: it was a healthy conversation. I don't have a problem 1570 01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,439 Speaker 1: with it at all. I do think that mac Jones 1571 01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:56,120 Speaker 1: is gonna be on the field sooner than people think. 1572 01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,400 Speaker 1: I just don't think that Cam Newton has it anymore. 1573 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:03,400 Speaker 1: I think they'll they're basically using Cam Newton as a placeholder. 1574 01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:09,080 Speaker 1: I think, for lack of a better option, they're gonna 1575 01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,639 Speaker 1: use Cam Newton as a placeholder in case Mac Jones 1576 01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:15,599 Speaker 1: isn't ready. But as soon as mac Jones shows signs 1577 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,920 Speaker 1: that he can just be a facilitator for the weapons 1578 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,040 Speaker 1: that they've added to the roster on offense, he's on 1579 01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:27,760 Speaker 1: the field. I think as soon as he runs the 1580 01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,280 Speaker 1: passing offense better than Cam Newton, he's on the field, 1581 01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:35,600 Speaker 1: and that could come in preseason game number three. I 1582 01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,960 Speaker 1: think I think there's a strong chance he's Week one starter. 1583 01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,000 Speaker 1: I do too, And I think they'll just roll with 1584 01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:42,920 Speaker 1: him and try and try and win with defense and 1585 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 1: a running game early in the season and then just 1586 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,160 Speaker 1: slowly bring him along. And you know, we've seen it him. 1587 01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,599 Speaker 1: You know, we've seen it for twenty years with the Patriots. 1588 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,680 Speaker 1: They're a different team in weeks fourteen, sixteen, seventeen than 1589 01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:57,920 Speaker 1: they are in weeks three, four and five. So I'm 1590 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,760 Speaker 1: I just I'm with you. Mac Jones is going to 1591 01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:05,400 Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback of the Patriots this year. And 1592 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,280 Speaker 1: if you think about how they managed games with Brady 1593 01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,240 Speaker 1: when he came in for an injured Drew Bledsoe in 1594 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:17,679 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, they were winning games like that. Yeah, thirteen, ten, sixteen, thirteen, 1595 01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:22,479 Speaker 1: twenty to thirteen. The longer it takes Mac Jones to 1596 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,400 Speaker 1: get on the field, the lower is his ceiling is 1597 01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:31,160 Speaker 1: gonna be right. If he's Day one starter, I think 1598 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,519 Speaker 1: it's problems because that shows the Bills for the Bills 1599 01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,240 Speaker 1: in the future years. I think he's gonna be there 1600 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,920 Speaker 1: for a while. If he's Day one starter and comes 1601 01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,320 Speaker 1: out and they start playing, I think that's real problems 1602 01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,920 Speaker 1: for the NFL, because this guy is gonna be good 1603 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,320 Speaker 1: enough that they're gonna think they can win games with 1604 01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,160 Speaker 1: him right away. If it takes him eight games to 1605 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,479 Speaker 1: get ahead of the Cam Newton we saw last year, 1606 01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,080 Speaker 1: the ceilings too low. Well, that's why I wouldn't be 1607 01:31:55,280 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 1: as concerned as you're pretending to be if he's the 1608 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:04,840 Speaker 1: Week one starter. And the reason why is because I 1609 01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:09,040 Speaker 1: think Cam Newton's done as a quarterback in this as 1610 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:12,120 Speaker 1: a starting caliber quarterback in this league, he is done. 1611 01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:16,400 Speaker 1: It's over. It was over last year. So if mac 1612 01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:18,920 Speaker 1: Jones is the Week one starter, I think it's because 1613 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,400 Speaker 1: he's the best option. And if he's better than a 1614 01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,240 Speaker 1: washed up Cam Newton, I don't know that. I'm afraid yet, 1615 01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think he could be 1616 01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 1: in time, a good starter in this league, maybe even 1617 01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:34,840 Speaker 1: above average starter. I don't know if he's a Super 1618 01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,960 Speaker 1: Bowl winner. I don't know that yet. I got to 1619 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,679 Speaker 1: see more. He said. What he did at the college 1620 01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:46,280 Speaker 1: level was certainly very impressive. And I'm not even gonna 1621 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,920 Speaker 1: give him the crutch of all the all stars he 1622 01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,880 Speaker 1: had around him, including a Heisman Trophy winner in another 1623 01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:55,200 Speaker 1: top ten draft choice as his top two receivers. That's 1624 01:32:55,200 --> 01:33:01,360 Speaker 1: pretty good. But I think if what he has between 1625 01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,559 Speaker 1: the years is as good as what people say it is, 1626 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,599 Speaker 1: and he does already throw guys open, it's a little 1627 01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,519 Speaker 1: different at the NFL level. The windows are smaller. Um. 1628 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,200 Speaker 1: I think he right now. I'm comfortable and saying it 1629 01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. If he's an above average starter in 1630 01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,840 Speaker 1: this league like at Andy Dalton. Is he better than that? Ye? 1631 01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,280 Speaker 1: Can he be better than that? I think? To see more, 1632 01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:30,680 Speaker 1: I think that's probably his You're right, his floor is 1633 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,640 Speaker 1: somewhere below that. His ceiling though, how much higher is 1634 01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,880 Speaker 1: it than that? That's that's what I need to see more. 1635 01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:41,760 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, And now being here where we're at, 1636 01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,040 Speaker 1: it's easy for us to throw throw slings at other 1637 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks because of our guy and the way he played 1638 01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:47,840 Speaker 1: this last year. And I'm not trying to do that, 1639 01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:49,720 Speaker 1: but not at all. I know what we saw from 1640 01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,439 Speaker 1: Cam Newton last year. It's over. I'm sorry, it's over. 1641 01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:56,200 Speaker 1: He can't throw well enough unless something's happened to him 1642 01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,400 Speaker 1: this off seat where he's his rehab got to a 1643 01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,680 Speaker 1: point where he could throw the football. I mean, it 1644 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,880 Speaker 1: was it was like Tim Tebow last year. It really 1645 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,960 Speaker 1: That's why I said, unless he's found the fountain of youth, 1646 01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:13,080 Speaker 1: it's over. It's over. And as a starter in this league, yeah, 1647 01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:17,000 Speaker 1: I agree, And so I'm thinking you're right, that may 1648 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,760 Speaker 1: that may color my estimation, but if it but like 1649 01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:25,880 Speaker 1: I said, the ceiling collapses a lot. If mac Jones 1650 01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,000 Speaker 1: can't beat that out, should right. If mac Jones isn't 1651 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:32,599 Speaker 1: the starter on Week one, they got they're gonna draft 1652 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,360 Speaker 1: another quarterback next year. Well you know what I mean, 1653 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,800 Speaker 1: you think so? Well, maybe not just because of the 1654 01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,720 Speaker 1: politics of it, but yeah, I think mac Joe if 1655 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:42,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. If mac Jones, if it takes him 1656 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,200 Speaker 1: a month, month and a half to get on the field, 1657 01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:45,920 Speaker 1: and we're looking at Cam Newton and we saw last 1658 01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:50,080 Speaker 1: year mac Jones is not the guy, I don't know 1659 01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:51,800 Speaker 1: if we can go that far. Because we were just 1660 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,519 Speaker 1: doing that thing on the One Bill's Life podcast last week, Steve, 1661 01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:58,240 Speaker 1: where we were saying, hey, you know, on average, the 1662 01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,760 Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks over the last twenty years or on 1663 01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:04,679 Speaker 1: the field before their eighth game they're making their first 1664 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:08,559 Speaker 1: NFL start, So if it takes him almost half the season, 1665 01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a catastrophic turn of events. I 1666 01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:13,920 Speaker 1: just think it took him a little longer to get 1667 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,599 Speaker 1: up to speed. I don't know if I'm gonna write 1668 01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:18,880 Speaker 1: them off and say with the Patriots have to draft 1669 01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,800 Speaker 1: another guy next year. They may, I don't know. Um 1670 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,080 Speaker 1: think about how patient they've been with Jarrett's Stidham. He 1671 01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:30,000 Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick. This guy's your first round. 1672 01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,519 Speaker 1: What choice they have though? Yeah? Who? You know? I 1673 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,720 Speaker 1: mean why they can be he's not playing, They don't care. 1674 01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:38,559 Speaker 1: How they can be as patient as they want. But 1675 01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,160 Speaker 1: I think nobody wants to see that. I think if 1676 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,280 Speaker 1: mac Jones doesn't start until week four or five, six 1677 01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:45,320 Speaker 1: or seven, it's not over. I mean, hell, Patriots didn't 1678 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:49,280 Speaker 1: start two until week eight, you know, and they're they're 1679 01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:54,400 Speaker 1: locked in with him Dolphins. That's different. It is, Yes, 1680 01:35:54,439 --> 01:36:02,240 Speaker 1: why because Fitz is not Cam? Okay, if you can't 1681 01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,439 Speaker 1: beat fits out in a mental contest, which is what 1682 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,040 Speaker 1: a young quarterback is up against basically, and two has 1683 01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,400 Speaker 1: got a better arm, he's you know, he's just doesn't 1684 01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, well, okay, does but not that much. But 1685 01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,720 Speaker 1: you know he got he's got a fresh arm anyway, right, 1686 01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,479 Speaker 1: But that's the that's the point. I mean, he's Fits. 1687 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,160 Speaker 1: Is impossible even for a mac Jones to come in 1688 01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,360 Speaker 1: and beat out right, If you think about that, Mac 1689 01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,760 Speaker 1: Jones in a lot of ways might be Fits. That's right. 1690 01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:33,320 Speaker 1: So that's and that's that might be your ceiling, but 1691 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,320 Speaker 1: it also might be your floor. Yeah, that's why we 1692 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,479 Speaker 1: got to see more. It's interesting. If Fits didn't turn 1693 01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:43,080 Speaker 1: the ball over, we would view him extremely differently. This 1694 01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,840 Speaker 1: division is going to be very compelling. It's gonna be 1695 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,599 Speaker 1: very compelling this year because of the young quarterbacks involved 1696 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,800 Speaker 1: and who can catch up to Josh Allen first? That 1697 01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:54,479 Speaker 1: is what every Bills fan is gonna be watching. Anybody 1698 01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:58,479 Speaker 1: got a snowball's chance in hell of catching Josh Allen 1699 01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,759 Speaker 1: and what he can do in this league at his level, 1700 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,559 Speaker 1: what a physical and mental pros. Just give you a 1701 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 1: little reason to get a little bit of thrill in 1702 01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,840 Speaker 1: your tummy. What happens if Josh takes in another huge 1703 01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:10,760 Speaker 1: step forward? Oh I don't. I don't think he's done 1704 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,080 Speaker 1: improving at all. Right, so they're what if they don't 1705 01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:18,479 Speaker 1: even gain on him. Yeah, good luck, Steve just got excited. 1706 01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,800 Speaker 1: We gotta take a break while we take care of 1707 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,200 Speaker 1: Steve's chicken skin, but we'll be back with more, especially 1708 01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,120 Speaker 1: on this AFC East because I really think it's gonna 1709 01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,479 Speaker 1: be one of the most compelling divisions in football because 1710 01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,519 Speaker 1: of the young quarterback presence that's chasing Josh Allen. We'll 1711 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,400 Speaker 1: get into that when we return here on one Bill's 1712 01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:54,960 Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at 1713 01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,479 Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 1714 01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,559 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role player, 1715 01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:09,360 Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stragedyre of normalcy. 1716 01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:14,439 Speaker 1: Getting it rolling for hour number three. Chris Brown, Steve 1717 01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,760 Speaker 1: Tasker with you here on a Tuesday, one day away 1718 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:21,080 Speaker 1: from the NFL schedule release. Excited about what that could 1719 01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:25,960 Speaker 1: offer in terms of prime time appearances for the Bills. 1720 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,200 Speaker 1: Some juicy matchups on the schedule that we know are 1721 01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,040 Speaker 1: coming down the pike. It's just a matter of when 1722 01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,479 Speaker 1: and at what time and potentially what day of the week. 1723 01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:39,040 Speaker 1: So we'll get all of those details tomorrow night. We 1724 01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:42,439 Speaker 1: are talking about how the AFC East is going to 1725 01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,720 Speaker 1: be one of the more compelling divisions in football this 1726 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:48,360 Speaker 1: coming season. Because of the influx of young quarterbacks, Josh 1727 01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:52,320 Speaker 1: Allen is going to be the most experienced, presumably starting quarterback. 1728 01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:53,960 Speaker 1: If Steve and I have our way with how we 1729 01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,800 Speaker 1: think the New England quarterback situation is going to pan out, 1730 01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:01,400 Speaker 1: Josh Allen will be the most experienced, an oldest starting 1731 01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:05,920 Speaker 1: quarterback at age twenty five this fall. If Mac Jones 1732 01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:09,439 Speaker 1: wins the starting job in New England, because it's gonna 1733 01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,080 Speaker 1: be two in Miami and Zach Wilson in New York. 1734 01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:16,839 Speaker 1: Life comes at you fast, it does. Pass rushers sometimes 1735 01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:22,320 Speaker 1: come at you faster. And I think what Bills fans 1736 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:25,479 Speaker 1: are going to be doing in terms of, whenever their 1737 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,799 Speaker 1: attention is pulled off their own team and they're casting 1738 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,759 Speaker 1: an eye at the others, they're gonna check and see 1739 01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,560 Speaker 1: is two on the come here or he's seeing progress? 1740 01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:37,680 Speaker 1: Is he kind of you know, closing the gap so 1741 01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,880 Speaker 1: to speak, in terms of his level of play week 1742 01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,640 Speaker 1: to week? Is Zach Wilson up to speed? Can he 1743 01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:46,240 Speaker 1: just not hack? It? Is the New York media machine 1744 01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,599 Speaker 1: just gobbling him up and chewing him into tiny little bits? 1745 01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:54,280 Speaker 1: And where is Mac Jones and can he overcome a 1746 01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:57,719 Speaker 1: player in Cam Newton whose name is probably more impressive 1747 01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:02,720 Speaker 1: than his game. Right now, it's an interesting scenario and 1748 01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,360 Speaker 1: the Bills being where they are, certainly I've got to 1749 01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:08,320 Speaker 1: love it. But Brian Flores, head coach of the Dolphins, 1750 01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,320 Speaker 1: has said, listen to us putting in the work. He's 1751 01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,120 Speaker 1: working hard at getting better, doing the things they want 1752 01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,040 Speaker 1: him to do in the off season. So there's that 1753 01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:22,400 Speaker 1: Cam Newton with another year post shoulder surgery. I'm with you, 1754 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,080 Speaker 1: there was a lot to be alarmed about how he 1755 01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:30,080 Speaker 1: threw the football last year. Yeah, Mac Jones, Zach Wilson, 1756 01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:36,439 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. I mean the quarterback, a young quarterback in 1757 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,920 Speaker 1: New York like Sam Darnold, Zach Wilson. You go all 1758 01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:43,080 Speaker 1: the way back, and you know, all the way back, 1759 01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:45,080 Speaker 1: anybody you want to pick, all the young quarterback you 1760 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:50,800 Speaker 1: know who've come through, Mark Sanchez, all of them. You 1761 01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,880 Speaker 1: get the feeling like the club puts them at quarterback 1762 01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:59,000 Speaker 1: and it's like they set a valuable piece of a 1763 01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,120 Speaker 1: vaz or something on a ledge, just teetering on the 1764 01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,200 Speaker 1: break and they just hope it stays and they back 1765 01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:08,880 Speaker 1: like they're in the game. That's exactly every move they 1766 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:12,080 Speaker 1: make with their young quarterback because the media just wants 1767 01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:15,040 Speaker 1: to come in and just push it over. Yeah, and 1768 01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:18,240 Speaker 1: however strong that kid is and however well he handles 1769 01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,439 Speaker 1: it is the make or break it has. And it 1770 01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:23,200 Speaker 1: has less to do with his talent and his ability 1771 01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:24,680 Speaker 1: on the field than it does with his ability to 1772 01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:27,120 Speaker 1: do handle everything. Is the face of the Jets off 1773 01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,479 Speaker 1: the field, because, let's face it, once in a while, 1774 01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:33,160 Speaker 1: the Jets do something stupid that that quarterback has to 1775 01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:38,200 Speaker 1: answer for. You traded who Jamal Adams? You traded who? 1776 01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:41,599 Speaker 1: Your last five first round draft picks? You've traded Gosh, 1777 01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:43,720 Speaker 1: I can't believe you guys aren't getting better now. He's 1778 01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,519 Speaker 1: the latest and he's the lady. He's gonna have to 1779 01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,920 Speaker 1: and he'll get questions about that. Yeah, and they'll have 1780 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,960 Speaker 1: quite And I heard this too, and it makes me 1781 01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:56,679 Speaker 1: laugh that well out in Provo because of the history 1782 01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:58,960 Speaker 1: of the organization, how many pro quarterbacks have come through there, 1783 01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,919 Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure on that starting quarterback of BYU. 1784 01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, what in Provo, Utah, come on and shut 1785 01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:11,519 Speaker 1: up speaking of pro have no idea what it's like 1786 01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,120 Speaker 1: in New York City, And speaking of Provo, Zach Wilson 1787 01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:16,960 Speaker 1: has never been out of Provo. He spent his whole 1788 01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,760 Speaker 1: life there. He grew up there, he went to high 1789 01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,760 Speaker 1: school there, he went to college there. The only time 1790 01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,439 Speaker 1: he's been out of Provo is when his team is 1791 01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,280 Speaker 1: traveling to play in away game. People in Provo how 1792 01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,719 Speaker 1: he's getting dropped into New York. They have never seen 1793 01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:37,400 Speaker 1: a media that can be as combative, insulting, and divisive 1794 01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:41,320 Speaker 1: as the New York media, unless you've been to Philadelphia. 1795 01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,599 Speaker 1: Well that's more of a fans are there right, Well, yes, 1796 01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:50,439 Speaker 1: but the media is pretty close. He has no idea 1797 01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,120 Speaker 1: of what's waiting on him. I'm telling he has none 1798 01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:58,960 Speaker 1: because it's and I said this before and I'll say 1799 01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:01,439 Speaker 1: it again, New York. You used to strike me as 1800 01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:03,320 Speaker 1: this when I was playing in New York. We'd go 1801 01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:09,080 Speaker 1: to the Meadowlands. I played on Halloween night, October thirty first, 1802 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:14,400 Speaker 1: on a Monday night football game against the Jets. You 1803 01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:20,680 Speaker 1: could feel that fan base feeling so good because they 1804 01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:25,559 Speaker 1: had excellent reasons to boo their own team. It was 1805 01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,760 Speaker 1: like that was the object of the game. Well, they 1806 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,200 Speaker 1: were looking for a reason to boo their own team, 1807 01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:34,840 Speaker 1: and that's where it sounded, and you got to live 1808 01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,679 Speaker 1: and be successful in that as a home team. That's right, 1809 01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:41,519 Speaker 1: because the demands in New York, and I'm sure this 1810 01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,960 Speaker 1: exists in a couple of other places, but the demands 1811 01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:50,599 Speaker 1: in New York are excellence. Anything less is boo worthy 1812 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:54,599 Speaker 1: and unacceptable. Second, guessing is a cottage industry. And if 1813 01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:59,439 Speaker 1: you are excellent, you are remembered for all time. In 1814 01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,799 Speaker 1: New York. The rewards are there. I mean, Walt Clyde 1815 01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:08,000 Speaker 1: Frazier won two NBA championships in New York in sixty 1816 01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:12,400 Speaker 1: nine and in seventy two, and the man is doing 1817 01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:20,400 Speaker 1: nick games on television still today, and that guy is revered. 1818 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean I've witnessed it. I've sat in the blue 1819 01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,360 Speaker 1: seats in the old Medicine Square Garden before they refurbished 1820 01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:30,680 Speaker 1: it and watched fans stand up and applaud him as 1821 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:33,640 Speaker 1: he came out to the courtside to sit down to 1822 01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:39,799 Speaker 1: do a broadcast thirty five years after he won a Championshipue. True, 1823 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,400 Speaker 1: you win, you win in New York, you are revered 1824 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:49,040 Speaker 1: for all time. Think about Joe, He's if you've ever 1825 01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,759 Speaker 1: met I've had the Joe Namoth won one super Bowl, 1826 01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:53,960 Speaker 1: made a guarantee to do it. He's got a losing 1827 01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,800 Speaker 1: record in the playoffs in his career. Oh he's, yes, 1828 01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,840 Speaker 1: he's You look at his career numbers and it's it's 1829 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:03,960 Speaker 1: not pretty. But the guy did it in New York 1830 01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:07,200 Speaker 1: and he called his shot, and to this very day 1831 01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:12,200 Speaker 1: he is iconic in that city. He stopped traffic on 1832 01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:16,360 Speaker 1: the list. Reggie Jackson, Derek Jeter. You know, so the 1833 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,519 Speaker 1: rewards are there in New Lawrence Taylor if you can 1834 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,599 Speaker 1: overcome all that. But I'm telling you, you're right. It's 1835 01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:24,880 Speaker 1: never been out of Provo, never been out of Utah. 1836 01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:28,320 Speaker 1: And he's gonna go to New York City. It's gonna 1837 01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,479 Speaker 1: be tough. It's really gonna be tough. I mean, it's 1838 01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:32,800 Speaker 1: like Opie Taylor going to New York. Think think about 1839 01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:36,519 Speaker 1: this too. They I know, the Jets did that. They 1840 01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,880 Speaker 1: got this guy, and he's got but it's still the Jets. 1841 01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they have yet to prove to anybody who 1842 01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:45,160 Speaker 1: observing them they're gonna do something and protect him and 1843 01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:48,000 Speaker 1: let him develop and be patient and build it around 1844 01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:51,320 Speaker 1: him and start slow with him. We have yet to 1845 01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:56,760 Speaker 1: see any of that, well, no more sooner rather than later, 1846 01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:04,559 Speaker 1: I think new head coach, right, I just find it 1847 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,599 Speaker 1: it'll be tough sledding, really intriguing. It'll be tough sledding 1848 01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,439 Speaker 1: for them. I don't think there's any question about that. 1849 01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:11,240 Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see what kind of moxy does 1850 01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,280 Speaker 1: the kid have? Can he can he handle all that stuff? 1851 01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:16,439 Speaker 1: And so they like his physical traits, no question about it. 1852 01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,360 Speaker 1: Good at throwing off platform, which is a valuable trait 1853 01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,000 Speaker 1: to have when you're the Jets quarterback because even with 1854 01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,519 Speaker 1: all the offensive line investments, there will be times where 1855 01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:26,040 Speaker 1: you're running for your life. So if you can make 1856 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:29,519 Speaker 1: throws like that, you might have a chance to do 1857 01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:32,599 Speaker 1: a few things for that team. But yeah, I think 1858 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,440 Speaker 1: it is going to be interesting. We were talking earlier 1859 01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:41,640 Speaker 1: about Tim Tebow and the anticipated signing by the Jacksonville 1860 01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:47,240 Speaker 1: Jaguars of him as a tight end, and I just 1861 01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:52,160 Speaker 1: I understand the probable reasons behind it, which is, you know, 1862 01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,880 Speaker 1: build your culture, get a guy in there that can 1863 01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:57,320 Speaker 1: kind of help show what it means to be a 1864 01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:02,000 Speaker 1: pro every single day or under urban Meyer and Steve 1865 01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:05,479 Speaker 1: firmly believes that that's the main impetus for this kind 1866 01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:10,200 Speaker 1: of assigning. But Jeff Darlington from ESPN was reporting that 1867 01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:14,120 Speaker 1: there's a serious disagreement within the building about the idea 1868 01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,800 Speaker 1: of Urban Meyer signing Tim Tebow because it hasn't happened yet. 1869 01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,599 Speaker 1: There are coaches on that staff, according to Darlington, who 1870 01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:25,040 Speaker 1: don't want to see it happen. Do you think the 1871 01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:30,599 Speaker 1: reasons why Steve are because they see it as a stunt, right? 1872 01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,400 Speaker 1: I think it's gotta be. They don't see him as 1873 01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,880 Speaker 1: a legitimate NFL player that is going to help them 1874 01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,120 Speaker 1: on the field, and so they feel it is a 1875 01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,240 Speaker 1: waste of time. Like if you're the tight ends coach, 1876 01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:44,000 Speaker 1: it's pr you want to have to spend time working 1877 01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:46,519 Speaker 1: with this guy when you're trying to get guys that 1878 01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,120 Speaker 1: are actually going to play on the field better. I 1879 01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:52,120 Speaker 1: don't know. It's interesting, Yeah, I don't know who they're 1880 01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,120 Speaker 1: tight I don't know anything about their coaching staff except 1881 01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:59,360 Speaker 1: the guy at the top. And it would be my thought, 1882 01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,120 Speaker 1: if listen, if Urban wants him, bring him in, because 1883 01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,719 Speaker 1: these guys should know. Like I said, if you're earlier 1884 01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,040 Speaker 1: in the show, they're gonna sign. Every team's gonna sign 1885 01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,200 Speaker 1: ten or fifteen guys that are not gonna be around. 1886 01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,360 Speaker 1: And if you know that going in, what are you 1887 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,360 Speaker 1: gonna get out of those ten or fifteen guys? What 1888 01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,920 Speaker 1: reps in preseason you're gonna get, like, you know, so 1889 01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:22,240 Speaker 1: you can talk to the players who are going to 1890 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:24,800 Speaker 1: play for you while those guys are taking reps. Are 1891 01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:26,880 Speaker 1: you gonna waste your time coaching those guys? I mean, 1892 01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,040 Speaker 1: I've had assistant coaches come up to me and as 1893 01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:31,080 Speaker 1: soon as the guy's cut, they pat him on the 1894 01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:32,439 Speaker 1: back to say, it's been nice knowing you, but I 1895 01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:35,320 Speaker 1: gotta go because I got guys I gotta coach, you know. 1896 01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they they're busy trying to keep their jobs 1897 01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,040 Speaker 1: by getting guys on the field that can really play, 1898 01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:41,760 Speaker 1: and if they can't get you ready, they don't want 1899 01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:45,960 Speaker 1: to waste their time on you. So I get that mentality. 1900 01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:48,360 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna have guys on your club like 1901 01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:51,160 Speaker 1: that anyway, get guys that are gonna help you in 1902 01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:56,280 Speaker 1: other ways like Tebow could. Well. Yeah. And the general 1903 01:48:56,320 --> 01:49:00,840 Speaker 1: consensus going into the draft for Jackson Will Jacksonville was 1904 01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:03,160 Speaker 1: they needed a pass catching tight end. They didn't really 1905 01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:08,920 Speaker 1: have one, especially after releasing Tyler Eifford, So Jaguars fans 1906 01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:10,840 Speaker 1: are fully expecting them. Oh, you know, they'll get a 1907 01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 1: pass catching tight end. Here in the draft. They've got 1908 01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:16,040 Speaker 1: University of Miami tight end Brevin Jordan on the clock, 1909 01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,080 Speaker 1: pass catching tight end, a little short, but a pass 1910 01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:22,759 Speaker 1: catching tight end. Unquestionably, they passed on him and grabbed 1911 01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:28,040 Speaker 1: a blocking tight end. And so now the general feeling 1912 01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:31,200 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville is we need a pass catching tight end 1913 01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,439 Speaker 1: more than anything else. And now they're bringing in Tebow 1914 01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:38,920 Speaker 1: like that's not the answer. I think Tim Tebow's got 1915 01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:40,720 Speaker 1: a better chance of being a blocking tight end than 1916 01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:45,400 Speaker 1: a receiving I get it. But let's review. It's it's 1917 01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:50,559 Speaker 1: mid May, two weeks after the draw. Who's out there 1918 01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:59,599 Speaker 1: and what are they worth? Nobody? Nobody, nobody. You're gonna 1919 01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:03,479 Speaker 1: You're gonna signed George Kittle now as a street free agent, 1920 01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,000 Speaker 1: some guy that can play as good as him, you're 1921 01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:08,400 Speaker 1: gonna sign you know, Travis Kelsey or Zach Ertz. You're 1922 01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:10,360 Speaker 1: not even you know. I mean, this is a team 1923 01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,519 Speaker 1: that just cut Tyler Eifford. Yeah, I mean, that's a 1924 01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,040 Speaker 1: guy that's got experience in the league. He's not I mean, 1925 01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:21,440 Speaker 1: the question right now, this time of year the cupboards 1926 01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:25,519 Speaker 1: are bare. I mean, this is the time of year 1927 01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:28,920 Speaker 1: when you're going to workouts. They got the ball boy 1928 01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,719 Speaker 1: filling in that tight end because they need a body. 1929 01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:34,800 Speaker 1: They don't have enough guys. So that's kind of where 1930 01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:38,280 Speaker 1: you're sitting. If you're gonna sign somebody, you know, at 1931 01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,639 Speaker 1: least sign somebody you don't have to worry about him. 1932 01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:45,240 Speaker 1: You know, none of these guys have a chance of 1933 01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:49,960 Speaker 1: making the team statistically speaking, yeah, unless you know, unless 1934 01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:55,960 Speaker 1: there's something unusual happens. So sign signed a Tim Tebow. 1935 01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:57,880 Speaker 1: At least you get a little leadership out of it, 1936 01:50:57,880 --> 01:50:59,479 Speaker 1: a little bit of an example as to how to 1937 01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,280 Speaker 1: do things a pro athlete. You get to bring a 1938 01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:04,719 Speaker 1: guy in with a little bit of credibility as a 1939 01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,400 Speaker 1: guy who at least played for a minute in the 1940 01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:10,400 Speaker 1: league and has another sport under his belt. I don't know. 1941 01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:13,479 Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time getting my mind around why 1942 01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:16,879 Speaker 1: everybody's blowing up about this. It's made the Tim Tebow. 1943 01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:21,280 Speaker 1: The name is a polarizing name, and we know it 1944 01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:24,040 Speaker 1: didn't work the first time at quarterback. We know it 1945 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:27,599 Speaker 1: didn't work in minor league baseball. And now he's coming 1946 01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:30,679 Speaker 1: back to the NFL and I think some people, whether 1947 01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:35,360 Speaker 1: it's right, wrong or completely off the mark, they think 1948 01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:39,920 Speaker 1: that Urban Meyers doing Tim Tebow was solid by bringing 1949 01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,439 Speaker 1: him in. And there are probably some coaches on his 1950 01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,200 Speaker 1: own staff who are like, this is a waste of time. 1951 01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:49,320 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be pulling time away from these tight ends 1952 01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:51,000 Speaker 1: who are actually gonna line up and play for us 1953 01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:54,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday and coach this guy like what are we doing? 1954 01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:56,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's the rub. Let's go to the 1955 01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:57,640 Speaker 1: Let's go to the phone, because we got somebody that 1956 01:51:57,720 --> 01:51:59,479 Speaker 1: wants to weigh in on this. Dave on his cell 1957 01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,080 Speaker 1: has some thoughts on Tim Tebow. What do you have, Dave? 1958 01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,280 Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live. Hey, guys, got a question 1959 01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,639 Speaker 1: for you. Now, Tim Tebow makes the team. Couldn't Urban 1960 01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:11,920 Speaker 1: use him and with special teams or a particular as 1961 01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:15,320 Speaker 1: a plate pickholder with him being a lefty, wouldn't it 1962 01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:19,120 Speaker 1: make teams questions or wonder if you know if he's 1963 01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:22,240 Speaker 1: gonna just take the ball and throw it and couldn't 1964 01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,880 Speaker 1: he couldn't they kind of add those types of trick 1965 01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:26,760 Speaker 1: plays or have them line up as a running back 1966 01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about, Yeah, absolutely, he's a verse. Yeah, given 1967 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,840 Speaker 1: his experience as a quarterback, given the fact he's gonna 1968 01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,800 Speaker 1: play tight end, given the fact he's left handed. Yeah, 1969 01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,600 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of creative things you can do. But 1970 01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,599 Speaker 1: I would say that I would venture this. You know, Dave, 1971 01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:46,960 Speaker 1: you're right, and we've seen other teams do that. But 1972 01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:53,559 Speaker 1: there are hundreds of guys you could do that with, 1973 01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,600 Speaker 1: both in the NFL and out of the NFL. I 1974 01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:00,439 Speaker 1: don't know that Tim Tebow would be at the top 1975 01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:06,479 Speaker 1: of that list. There's you're talking about great athletes, um 1976 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:09,559 Speaker 1: left handers, even you're talking about there's there are guys 1977 01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:13,760 Speaker 1: like that in every medium to large city in America 1978 01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:17,599 Speaker 1: who have enough football acumen to be to do that. 1979 01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,240 Speaker 1: And there's even guys on every roster that could do that. 1980 01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,720 Speaker 1: If a team so is so inclined to look out 1981 01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:24,680 Speaker 1: and ask for him and see and try him out, 1982 01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:26,880 Speaker 1: and you know, try these guys out, there's all kinds 1983 01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:28,960 Speaker 1: of creative ways to do it. Tim Tebow is not 1984 01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:33,280 Speaker 1: special because he's left handed or because he because he 1985 01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:37,639 Speaker 1: was a Heisman Trophy winnering left handed running quarterback. There 1986 01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:41,439 Speaker 1: are there are a handful of guys on every single 1987 01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:45,280 Speaker 1: roster like that. So yeah, I get it what you're saying. 1988 01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:49,040 Speaker 1: But every creative offensive corners I've been I've been pounding 1989 01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:52,679 Speaker 1: the table for Justin Zimmer in Buffalo to get offensive 1990 01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:55,920 Speaker 1: snaps because the guy's a defensive lineman running down, He's 1991 01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:58,720 Speaker 1: running people down on the field. Put him in the 1992 01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,920 Speaker 1: offensive backfield. He's a three hundred pounder, you know. Use 1993 01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:03,559 Speaker 1: him like that. So there are guys like that on 1994 01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:07,040 Speaker 1: every team that that is not a special attribute that 1995 01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:10,960 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow brings to the table that makes him unique, right, Sorry, 1996 01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:15,200 Speaker 1: And we're talking a package of plays at most a week, 1997 01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,320 Speaker 1: maybe not even every week. I mean, you're not doing 1998 01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,760 Speaker 1: a trick play every single game, and keeping you're not 1999 01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:21,479 Speaker 1: wasting a roster spot on a guy that's going to 2000 01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,240 Speaker 1: give you three trick plays during the season. Yes, so 2001 01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:29,400 Speaker 1: we're even five trick plays, right. So, while while your 2002 01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:33,360 Speaker 1: suggestion has merit because of his background, I don't think 2003 01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,960 Speaker 1: it's enough to warrant a roster spot if that's his 2004 01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:39,360 Speaker 1: sole purpose to be on the roster without being able 2005 01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:42,760 Speaker 1: to offer a whole lot else, if we know what 2006 01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's where I am on that. I 2007 01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:51,280 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I tend to agree with 2008 01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:57,400 Speaker 1: Steve that this is probably to foster culture and build 2009 01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:00,200 Speaker 1: that in the locker room. I think that's why urban 2010 01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,680 Speaker 1: Meyer sees value in signing Tebow. If it in fact 2011 01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,800 Speaker 1: comes to pass beyond that, I think I see the value, 2012 01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:07,280 Speaker 1: and I can't think of any off the top of 2013 01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:09,120 Speaker 1: my head. I know that I've thought had this thought 2014 01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:14,120 Speaker 1: process many, many, many many times. Where a coach gets 2015 01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:15,880 Speaker 1: a job or one of these coaches here or one 2016 01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,440 Speaker 1: of these coaches, and sometimes we would never hear about it. 2017 01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:23,600 Speaker 1: Where you get, yeah, I do. Brian Dable comes to 2018 01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:27,040 Speaker 1: Buffalo is the offensive coordinator, and a day or two 2019 01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:33,080 Speaker 1: after the draft, Buffalo signs Levi Wallace as an undrafted 2020 01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:37,800 Speaker 1: rookie free agent. There is no other way that they 2021 01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:41,040 Speaker 1: draft or signed Levi Wallace unless one of their coaches 2022 01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:42,880 Speaker 1: on their team says, I like that kid, give him 2023 01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,640 Speaker 1: a shot. Yeah, that's all it takes. And certainly that 2024 01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:48,880 Speaker 1: paid off in paid big dividends for the Bills. But 2025 01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:51,480 Speaker 1: how many times have we heard that statement like, well, 2026 01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,800 Speaker 1: he knew the guy from this place, or he knew 2027 01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,320 Speaker 1: where he coached him in college, or he coached his 2028 01:55:56,400 --> 01:56:00,640 Speaker 1: dad in college. Even all this all that it happens 2029 01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:04,640 Speaker 1: all the time. The guys will do. Yeah, they sign 2030 01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,800 Speaker 1: guys because they know him and they trust them. Whether 2031 01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:08,600 Speaker 1: they're any good or not, who cares. At least they 2032 01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:10,280 Speaker 1: know they can trust them. At least they know what 2033 01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:12,320 Speaker 1: they got and you can say, yeah, he's doing a 2034 01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:15,800 Speaker 1: solid for an old friend. It happens. So the only 2035 01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:17,520 Speaker 1: reason this is getting a lot of air time is 2036 01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:21,320 Speaker 1: because you know it's Tim Tebow, Heisman Trophy winner. But 2037 01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:25,280 Speaker 1: urban Meyer is no different than any of the coach 2038 01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:27,600 Speaker 1: in the league, and he's getting some pushback. Maybe that 2039 01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:30,680 Speaker 1: says something about it. Maybe about says something about how 2040 01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:36,440 Speaker 1: the workout went with Tebow. I don't know, it's it 2041 01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:39,200 Speaker 1: happens a lot more than I think we realize. Let's 2042 01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:40,920 Speaker 1: go back to the phones. We go to John in 2043 01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:42,840 Speaker 1: South Buffalo. John, what do you have for us here 2044 01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:46,200 Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live. Yeah, great show, guys, thanks for him. 2045 01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I just wanted to point out I don't 2046 01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:54,440 Speaker 1: think you can count Tebo out. I mean, he needs 2047 01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:58,480 Speaker 1: a two sport professional athlete. My point, he's got to 2048 01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:01,280 Speaker 1: be a natural athlete. He has to have an abundance 2049 01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:04,920 Speaker 1: of the balid timing coordination. He might not be the 2050 01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:10,560 Speaker 1: speed Burner, but you know, he's the next quarterback, and 2051 01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of export quarterbacks. He become good receivers. 2052 01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:17,880 Speaker 1: It's like Julian Elman an exhibit eight. And he's got 2053 01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,880 Speaker 1: to know what passes tuts good routes, and he must 2054 01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:24,520 Speaker 1: know blocking schemes. And like Steve said, he must have 2055 01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:27,560 Speaker 1: an incredible presence in the locker room, and he certainly 2056 01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:32,200 Speaker 1: has a passion and commitments to the game. Yeah. And 2057 01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:34,320 Speaker 1: as much as he might be and John, thanks for 2058 01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:35,920 Speaker 1: the call, we appreciate. As much as he might be 2059 01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:38,920 Speaker 1: a natural athlete, I don't know if he's an elite 2060 01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:41,760 Speaker 1: athlete that can play in the NFL, especially at age 2061 01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:46,160 Speaker 1: thirty four. Yeah, what's he looked like, because there's been 2062 01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care if he looks like an Adonis. 2063 01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. His speed is a question mark, um, 2064 01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:57,800 Speaker 1: But his desire commitment is not. His character doesn't seem 2065 01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,160 Speaker 1: to be and not as you know, let's just take 2066 01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:02,720 Speaker 1: it at face value. No it's not. And I said 2067 01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:06,800 Speaker 1: to Brownie, there are guys who transcend sports for a 2068 01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,080 Speaker 1: lot of reasons and all giving a couple of examples 2069 01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:12,400 Speaker 1: like ray Lewis, And you can say what you want 2070 01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:17,000 Speaker 1: about ray Lewis in his past, the guy was unbelievably 2071 01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:20,880 Speaker 1: gifted as a leader of men that Baltimore team and then, 2072 01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,000 Speaker 1: and I think his legacy is still felt to this 2073 01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:26,360 Speaker 1: day ray Lewis, as long as he's been out. Guys 2074 01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:30,520 Speaker 1: like Mike Singletary, same thing. A guy who transcended the sport, 2075 01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:32,960 Speaker 1: was a real leader inside the huddle and in the 2076 01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,680 Speaker 1: locker room. A guy on my own team, a guy 2077 01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:39,040 Speaker 1: like Daryl Tallio or Jim Kelly, those guys who transcended 2078 01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:42,200 Speaker 1: and made and what I'm saying is they made the 2079 01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:45,480 Speaker 1: entire team better because of the way they carried themselves 2080 01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,240 Speaker 1: and the words they spoke in the locker room and 2081 01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:51,680 Speaker 1: their personality as a stand up take responsibility for my 2082 01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:53,880 Speaker 1: own self and expect you to do the same and 2083 01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:57,480 Speaker 1: empower you to do it kind of guys. They're special 2084 01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:03,360 Speaker 1: and that attribute is as sought after in pro scouting 2085 01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:09,520 Speaker 1: as athletic ability. So in that case, Tim Tebow does 2086 01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:12,280 Speaker 1: get above the line, I think to deserve a shot, 2087 01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:15,600 Speaker 1: particularly given his commitment to being a pro athlete that 2088 01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:17,400 Speaker 1: he's shown over the last decade, even though it was 2089 01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:20,000 Speaker 1: in another sport. I get why it's being done. I 2090 01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,200 Speaker 1: just don't know that everybody agrees with it, and it 2091 01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:25,840 Speaker 1: sounds like not everybody on Urban Meyer's own coaching staff 2092 01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:30,680 Speaker 1: agrees with the move and its intentions. So that'll be 2093 01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:32,640 Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on, for sure. I don't 2094 01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:35,240 Speaker 1: think there's any question about that. How long does it last, 2095 01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:38,160 Speaker 1: how far into the preseason does it go, does he 2096 01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:41,120 Speaker 1: make final cuts, does he make the fifty three man roster? 2097 01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:43,280 Speaker 1: Is he active on game day? I mean, all of 2098 01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:45,840 Speaker 1: that stuff is going to be rolled into a very 2099 01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:49,880 Speaker 1: interesting offseason. And you know who's probably happiest about it, 2100 01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:54,360 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence because there's no pressure on this guy because 2101 01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:57,680 Speaker 1: Tebow's getting all the attention. I mean, it'll shift once 2102 01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:59,400 Speaker 1: we get to training camp. All eyes will be on 2103 01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawre down there in Jacksonville. But the Tebow thing 2104 02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:06,840 Speaker 1: will be a very strong story that may take some 2105 02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:08,800 Speaker 1: of the heat off Lawrence. Not that it looks like 2106 02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Lawrence ever feels pressure anyway. That's that's interesting. I would 2107 02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:16,960 Speaker 1: I would have said it'd be smarter for New York 2108 02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:20,480 Speaker 1: to do that rather than Jason. Well, they've already done that. 2109 02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:23,360 Speaker 1: They already did that. Remember they traded for Tebow. Back 2110 02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:26,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. I know, yeah, But Mike Tannenbaum, where's 2111 02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:29,600 Speaker 1: he unemployed? Well, he's at the ESPN, he's not coaching, 2112 02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:31,640 Speaker 1: he's not working in the league any But that's that's 2113 02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:34,080 Speaker 1: a good point. Although I'm with you, I don't think 2114 02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:35,760 Speaker 1: that's going to be too much for Trevor Lawrence to 2115 02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:38,360 Speaker 1: handle down there. I think he had more more pressure 2116 02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:43,040 Speaker 1: going into his senior year. After he emerged as a sophomore, 2117 02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:45,920 Speaker 1: he had more pressure on him than he did this 2118 02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:48,960 Speaker 1: last year. We have to break here, but when we 2119 02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:53,000 Speaker 1: come back, it's time for a little NFL true falls. 2120 02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Steve and I will dive into that when we return here. 2121 02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:58,240 Speaker 1: On One Bill's Line presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo 2122 02:00:58,280 --> 02:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio FUC Back to One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, 2123 02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Steve's Aster with You, and some breaking news in Major 2124 02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:20,560 Speaker 1: League Baseball the Oakland A's. According to Jeff Passon of 2125 02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:24,280 Speaker 1: ESPN Major League Baseball Reporter, the Oakland A's will start 2126 02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:30,240 Speaker 1: exploring relocation possibilities after Major League Baseball suggested the organization 2127 02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:34,640 Speaker 1: consider moving to other cities if the Howard Terminal Stadium 2128 02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:39,800 Speaker 1: proposal is not approved by local politicians. So Oakland sports 2129 02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:44,160 Speaker 1: fans have already lost the Golden State Warriors, who moved 2130 02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:47,680 Speaker 1: across the Bay and now play in San Francisco. They've 2131 02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:51,040 Speaker 1: lost the Raiders who now play in Las Vegas, and 2132 02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:58,920 Speaker 1: now they might lose their baseball team. That's a heck 2133 02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:02,760 Speaker 1: of a year and a half. Man. Yeah, that's tough. 2134 02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:05,280 Speaker 1: You think back, it seems like a lifetime ago that 2135 02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:09,000 Speaker 1: it felt like the Bills might leave. Yeah, with the 2136 02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:11,240 Speaker 1: whole business backs of the Bills in the late nineties, 2137 02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:14,120 Speaker 1: you got to think too that there's this schedule breaks 2138 02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:19,160 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, and when it breaks down in Jacksonville, 2139 02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:23,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna host some games in London. Again, how far 2140 02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:29,040 Speaker 1: they're funny twenty two or in twenty twenty two. It 2141 02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:32,320 Speaker 1: happens a lot more than we kind of realize, I think, 2142 02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:37,880 Speaker 1: because you know, Saint Louis had two different NFL teams 2143 02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:44,480 Speaker 1: and couldn't hold either one of them. Yeah, the Kansas 2144 02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:46,800 Speaker 1: City Chiefs were used to be the Colt forty fives 2145 02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:53,760 Speaker 1: in Dallas, I mean Baltimore Colts. Now Indianapolis, Houston Oilers, 2146 02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:58,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers. Yeah, it's been a 2147 02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:04,320 Speaker 1: lot of movement in this league. Yeah, um, San Francisco Giants, 2148 02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:09,600 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Dodgers, Dodgers, New York Giants. It happens. I mean, 2149 02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:12,840 Speaker 1: I get it. I mean it's it's a business, and 2150 02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:16,800 Speaker 1: and kids grow up that way. So even the NBA 2151 02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:20,560 Speaker 1: Buffalo Braves. Yeah, you know, I wonder how big and 2152 02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:24,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City Kings, right, I wonder how big an outcry 2153 02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:28,480 Speaker 1: there will be in Oakland. I don't have it. You 2154 02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:31,680 Speaker 1: don't have a professional team after this if they leave none. Yeah, 2155 02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:33,640 Speaker 1: you can went from three to zero. Well they have, 2156 02:03:33,880 --> 02:03:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean the Warriors are still there, they're just on 2157 02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:39,160 Speaker 1: the other side of the Bay. But not the people 2158 02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:43,480 Speaker 1: in Oakland. They're not too happy about it. Yeah, but 2159 02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:46,880 Speaker 1: they have that that law in California, I believe it's 2160 02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:49,480 Speaker 1: a law in California where they don't there's no public 2161 02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:56,400 Speaker 1: money for stadiums. They're already paying thirteen percent tax. If 2162 02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:58,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna if you're gonna put a sliding up, it's 2163 02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:00,480 Speaker 1: on your own dime. That's why they're all already having 2164 02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:03,120 Speaker 1: a mass exodus. Everybody in the state of California is 2165 02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:05,920 Speaker 1: looking to move. They're moving to Nevada, and we're record numbers, 2166 02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:09,160 Speaker 1: moving to Arizona in record numbers. They're moving to Texas 2167 02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:12,720 Speaker 1: in record numbers. And it's it's no mistake that two 2168 02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:18,800 Speaker 1: of those three states have no state tax, Nevada and Texas. 2169 02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:22,000 Speaker 1: If you're gonna move maximize, go from thirteen percent to 2170 02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:25,440 Speaker 1: zero state tags. I'll sign up for that. Yeah, that's 2171 02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:28,480 Speaker 1: a good business decision. So yeah, we'll have to see 2172 02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:31,880 Speaker 1: where that goes. So do the A's moved to San Antonio? 2173 02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:35,480 Speaker 1: The A's moved back in the twenties and thirties and forties, 2174 02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:38,560 Speaker 1: they were the Philadelphia A's and they moved out west. 2175 02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:43,800 Speaker 1: So so name the city is it? Where does Oakland go? Yeah? 2176 02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:47,600 Speaker 1: Where did the Oakland A's end up? Does Dallas have 2177 02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:52,920 Speaker 1: a baseball team? Houston does? Uh? The Texas Rangers? Right? Yeah, 2178 02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:57,480 Speaker 1: so I think that would be their territory. Well, it's fine, 2179 02:04:57,560 --> 02:05:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm total gouber. Um. I will San Antonio because I'm 2180 02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:04,440 Speaker 1: looking for because let's face it, you're looking for a 2181 02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:08,360 Speaker 1: state with no tax. Yeah, could be Nashville for all, 2182 02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:12,280 Speaker 1: at could be Las Vegas, could be Vegas. Go join 2183 02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:15,200 Speaker 1: the Raiders, build another state and they could do it. 2184 02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:17,760 Speaker 1: They got the cash. If anybody's got the cash, Vegas 2185 02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:20,240 Speaker 1: got it. Oh my gosh. Yes, I don't know that. 2186 02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:23,360 Speaker 1: They would definitely play in a dome. Um yeah, oh 2187 02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:25,240 Speaker 1: my gosh. You can't play in the summer. Maybe not 2188 02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:27,120 Speaker 1: in a dome, but certainly in a cover, you know, 2189 02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:28,840 Speaker 1: in a tent, you know what I mean, one of 2190 02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:34,440 Speaker 1: those unwalled stadiums. Maybe. But hot is hot. Hot is hot. 2191 02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:36,680 Speaker 1: I don't care. You can tell me about to dry 2192 02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:40,320 Speaker 1: heat all you want. But in the summertime, yeah, yeah, 2193 02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:45,240 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Yeah, it's that's rough. Stuff is um. 2194 02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:49,600 Speaker 1: So I would say Las Vegas. What's another place where 2195 02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:53,520 Speaker 1: San Antonio I said, yeah, maybe it's a big enough city. 2196 02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe because you got Houston, you got the asteroids, 2197 02:05:57,480 --> 02:06:02,600 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. Don't know that it's big enough if Oakland's 2198 02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:06,440 Speaker 1: gonna move because they're considered small market now and they've 2199 02:06:06,440 --> 02:06:09,960 Speaker 1: been playing on the money ball, right philosophy, whatever you're 2200 02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:12,840 Speaker 1: gonna go, what what majors, major city gonna go to that? Yeah? 2201 02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:16,040 Speaker 1: I gotta think, like, what about Nashville? Right, that'd be 2202 02:06:16,040 --> 02:06:18,600 Speaker 1: a little bigger. Yeah, you go to Tennessee, you can 2203 02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:21,040 Speaker 1: make that in then Nashville's booming. I mean that place 2204 02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:23,640 Speaker 1: is like play in Nashville. I think that's an option. 2205 02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:26,200 Speaker 1: You have to come there's enough space. You have to 2206 02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:29,080 Speaker 1: come east, and they might have to move you out 2207 02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:32,800 Speaker 1: of the division from the west. I wonder if they 2208 02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:34,640 Speaker 1: try to stay out west or they just pick the best, 2209 02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:37,320 Speaker 1: because there's really no towns out there except Vegas. And 2210 02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, even Albuquerque's too small. I mean there are 2211 02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:43,240 Speaker 1: these teenage said Provo, Utah. They're not gonna go up there. 2212 02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:46,000 Speaker 1: They keep playing the high Mountains, Denverse. It's struggle enough 2213 02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:50,600 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. I don't think Salt Lake cities in option. Yeah, 2214 02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:53,960 Speaker 1: there is just no place to play Sacramento, you know, 2215 02:06:54,040 --> 02:06:55,960 Speaker 1: it's not big enough. Well, you're still in the same state. 2216 02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:57,880 Speaker 1: They're not gonna give you that. Yeah, yeah, they're not. 2217 02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Portland doesn't have a baseball team. Whenever you go to 2218 02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Portland with yeah, we're gonna our new stadium and all that. 2219 02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:09,160 Speaker 1: Maybe there's just not enough cities for that. I don't 2220 02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:13,840 Speaker 1: think I want to see where that goes. That's interesting though, 2221 02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:16,760 Speaker 1: Another another franchise moving the economics of the league. Oh 2222 02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:19,920 Speaker 1: my goodness, I'm trying to remember the last baseball team 2223 02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:26,240 Speaker 1: that moved. It's the last baseball team that moved. Well, 2224 02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:29,879 Speaker 1: there's been a couple that have had new stadiums put up. Yeah, 2225 02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:34,160 Speaker 1: but San Diego and Houston. And I don't think I 2226 02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:36,760 Speaker 1: might just be completely off the radar because I've been 2227 02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:39,480 Speaker 1: so immersed in football the last twenty something years. But 2228 02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I can't think of a baseball 2229 02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:51,600 Speaker 1: team that moved recently, unless oh, the Expos Montreal x Expos. Yeah, 2230 02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:54,400 Speaker 1: so the Expos became the Washington Nationals. So there you go. 2231 02:07:55,640 --> 02:07:57,600 Speaker 1: That was that was a while ago. That was like 2232 02:07:58,520 --> 02:08:03,240 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, ten fifteen years ago. All right, Well, 2233 02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:08,720 Speaker 1: I wonder if Montreal would take him? Yeah, Montreal from 2234 02:08:09,320 --> 02:08:13,400 Speaker 1: how about lace A's how about what we just got 2235 02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:18,120 Speaker 1: tweeted as Juliet, how about the Buffalo A's It's I'd 2236 02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:22,760 Speaker 1: sign up for that. No, no, no, man, no, I'd 2237 02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:25,680 Speaker 1: probably want an NBA team before a baseball team. Yeah, 2238 02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:30,320 Speaker 1: that's would you. Yeah, I'd want an think so too. 2239 02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:33,280 Speaker 1: That'd be fun. I think so too. Based my summer. 2240 02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:35,440 Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Buffalo and we all know this, 2241 02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,440 Speaker 1: and I've noticed this over the last couple of last 2242 02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:43,120 Speaker 1: three four weeks. Yea, and certainly it's enhanced and exacerbated 2243 02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:47,880 Speaker 1: by the pandemic. But if you have something you want 2244 02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:50,080 Speaker 1: to happen outdoors, there's only so many months you can 2245 02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:52,040 Speaker 1: count on it. And man, oh man, we here in 2246 02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:59,240 Speaker 1: western New York we pack the summer with everything. Baseball, festivals, 2247 02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:02,120 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff goes on in the summer months 2248 02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,120 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. To add throw something on top of that, 2249 02:09:04,120 --> 02:09:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it. I don't think it'll fly. You 2250 02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:09,320 Speaker 1: need something to do in the winter. Sports here in 2251 02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:11,160 Speaker 1: the winter here, not in the summer. In the summer, 2252 02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:14,560 Speaker 1: everything we bloom like a big flower up here, and 2253 02:09:14,680 --> 02:09:17,920 Speaker 1: everybody's outside like, yeah, let's go either you're golfing every 2254 02:09:18,080 --> 02:09:20,960 Speaker 1: every weekend, there's something cool going on, some festival, you know, 2255 02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:24,000 Speaker 1: out of town whatever, in the farmers markets. All this 2256 02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:25,880 Speaker 1: kind of stuff's going on all over the park, all 2257 02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:29,520 Speaker 1: over the place in the summer here. So baseball, I 2258 02:09:29,560 --> 02:09:33,280 Speaker 1: think it is just I ain't got time, you know, 2259 02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:37,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna I wonder because now these politicians feed here 2260 02:09:37,360 --> 02:09:41,560 Speaker 1: to the fire because Oakland, man, you've already lost two 2261 02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:46,000 Speaker 1: teams in the last two years from your municipality. With 2262 02:09:46,160 --> 02:09:48,680 Speaker 1: the Warriors going over to San Francisco in their new building, 2263 02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:52,640 Speaker 1: and you know the raiders in Las Vegas. Now you're 2264 02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:56,080 Speaker 1: a politician in Oakland and you can't keep the a's either. 2265 02:09:56,240 --> 02:10:02,240 Speaker 1: My gosh, yeah that is just grab the TNT box 2266 02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:08,600 Speaker 1: and hit the plunger. Just go all wildly, coyote, drop 2267 02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:11,800 Speaker 1: the plunder because it's done. All right, I'm yeah, maybe 2268 02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:17,640 Speaker 1: we'll see that. Let's keep track of that too, No, yeah, 2269 02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:20,160 Speaker 1: because I don't care about it. I could not insistly 2270 02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:21,920 Speaker 1: care less about that city. I want to know what 2271 02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:26,000 Speaker 1: the what the endgame is. Yeah, i'd be surprised. All right, 2272 02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:28,200 Speaker 1: we'll have to see. We'll take a break here, Steve 2273 02:10:28,280 --> 02:10:30,600 Speaker 1: and I find out what we have learned when we 2274 02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:32,960 Speaker 1: return here on One Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health, 2275 02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:50,720 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. What have we learned, Rocky by Skyworks, 2276 02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:54,600 Speaker 1: the official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. Well, 2277 02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:56,760 Speaker 1: I think we learned from Mike Rees today, Steve, that 2278 02:10:57,120 --> 02:11:00,560 Speaker 1: Mac Jones has a real chance of being the Week 2279 02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:03,520 Speaker 1: one starter for the New England Patriots. Yeah, you and 2280 02:11:03,560 --> 02:11:07,400 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen. I think I can't see 2281 02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:09,880 Speaker 1: Cam Newton being a starting quarterback in this league. On 2282 02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:13,000 Speaker 1: a regular basis anymore. After watching him play last year, 2283 02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:15,000 Speaker 1: I don't care how much of a head start he's got. 2284 02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:17,000 Speaker 1: And he's got a year twelve month head start on 2285 02:11:17,080 --> 02:11:21,040 Speaker 1: mac Jones, but he can't throw as well. If he's 2286 02:11:21,080 --> 02:11:22,560 Speaker 1: the same guy as he was last year. He can't 2287 02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:25,040 Speaker 1: throw as well as mac Jones and hasn't been able 2288 02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:26,560 Speaker 1: to throw as well as mac Jones for a month 2289 02:11:26,640 --> 02:11:29,400 Speaker 1: for a year, let alone this coming year. It's just 2290 02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:35,080 Speaker 1: and it's a throwing league. And Bill Belichick and the 2291 02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:38,920 Speaker 1: Patriots had to sit there through sixteen games going seven 2292 02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:45,680 Speaker 1: and nine, where they just weren't potent enough offensively. Now 2293 02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:47,960 Speaker 1: certainly they're gonna get some help defensively. They got some 2294 02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:49,800 Speaker 1: opt outs coming back. They got some guys that are 2295 02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:52,520 Speaker 1: really gonna help them, more talented players, more proven players. 2296 02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:54,720 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of competition on the defensive 2297 02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:58,240 Speaker 1: side of the ball. And as of now, they've still 2298 02:11:58,280 --> 02:12:00,800 Speaker 1: got Steph Gilmore. I mean, they've got a lot of 2299 02:12:00,840 --> 02:12:02,600 Speaker 1: reasons to think their defense is going to help them 2300 02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:04,200 Speaker 1: out a lot more than it was able to a 2301 02:12:04,280 --> 02:12:08,440 Speaker 1: year ago. Having said that, they still can't score that 2302 02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:11,080 Speaker 1: many points in the league where everybody's trying to score 2303 02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:15,040 Speaker 1: points at a record pace. So I'm I'm with you. 2304 02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:18,120 Speaker 1: I think Mac Jones is the easy answer. We heard 2305 02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:20,040 Speaker 1: this last year with Jared's didam remember they told us 2306 02:12:20,120 --> 02:12:26,440 Speaker 1: Jared Stidham was their guy? You remember Jared Stidham? Oh? Yeah, 2307 02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:28,360 Speaker 1: from the last game that we played against them and 2308 02:12:28,440 --> 02:12:31,400 Speaker 1: he came in. I mean, like you've been there how long? 2309 02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's Mac Jones, folks, and Alabama will 2310 02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:42,920 Speaker 1: triumph over Auburn again. Two Auburn qbs will be beat 2311 02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:46,120 Speaker 1: out by an Alabama QB. Well, there you go. I'll 2312 02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:50,240 Speaker 1: say this though, we've The longer it takes Mac Jones 2313 02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:51,640 Speaker 1: to get on the field, the better it is for 2314 02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:53,960 Speaker 1: Bills fans, because that'll that'll signal to us that he's 2315 02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:55,560 Speaker 1: just not there yet. If he can't beat out what 2316 02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:58,600 Speaker 1: we saw at quarterback in New England last year, then 2317 02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:00,720 Speaker 1: Bills fans will know that this guy is not going 2318 02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:03,160 Speaker 1: to be a threat as big a threat as the 2319 02:13:03,160 --> 02:13:05,880 Speaker 1: guy they're replaced. Certainly not in twenty twenty one, right 2320 02:13:07,120 --> 02:13:11,440 Speaker 1: our Thanks to Bill's fan X who tweeted in Portland 2321 02:13:11,480 --> 02:13:14,240 Speaker 1: already has a stadium deal set. They just need a 2322 02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:19,480 Speaker 1: major League baseball team. Wow. Isn't that interesting? And we 2323 02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:22,920 Speaker 1: mentioned Portland. Yeah, not looking for points there, but the 2324 02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:24,280 Speaker 1: thought is coming out of it. We're talking about the 2325 02:13:24,280 --> 02:13:28,640 Speaker 1: Oakland A's relocating in Oakland, Oakland, California, losing its last 2326 02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:32,800 Speaker 1: major pro sports team. Words coming out and says, listen, 2327 02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:35,160 Speaker 1: you've done this every six years for you were here. 2328 02:13:35,200 --> 02:13:37,400 Speaker 1: You got here in nineteen sixty eight. We've heard it 2329 02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:40,000 Speaker 1: for you know, for fifty years. Yeah, so don't think 2330 02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:42,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna be any different this time, which doesn't spell 2331 02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:46,520 Speaker 1: good things for the Howard Terminal Stadium proposal. We'll have 2332 02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:49,760 Speaker 1: our big schedule show tomorrow, as we'll know by the 2333 02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:51,960 Speaker 1: time we're on the air what the Week one matchup 2334 02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:55,120 Speaker 1: is for the Bills. We'll have other things to do 2335 02:13:55,200 --> 02:13:58,160 Speaker 1: with the schedule as well. Join us there tomorrow at noon. 2336 02:13:58,240 --> 02:14:04,040 Speaker 1: We'll see it in here on One Bill's Live. We 2337 02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:05,160 Speaker 1: didn't beco