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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to The Two Pros and a

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: What is this?

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Speaker 1: Hey? This song sucks? This song? Who put this? This

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Speaker 1: is another Brady pick?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think Brady made another pick this. I think this

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Speaker 4: came in last fright.

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Speaker 3: Why why? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I got to I told them, I told them what

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Speaker 4: I wanted. But Brady going directly to you know where

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Speaker 4: Ricky is?

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Speaker 1: He's not here?

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Speaker 3: Stop here? What are we doing? What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: I think he was trying to send messages? Right?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Well, well, oh here's one. Still get rid of this song.

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Speaker 3: He still wants to be part of the show. Of

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 5: Oh really, I mean he's more than he's more than

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Speaker 5: welcome to be a part of the show.

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Speaker 3: Who says he doesn't have to be a part of

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 1: I just want a decent song in hour three. That's

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Speaker 1: all I'm asking for. We had pop it. It lasted

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Speaker 1: a day and then it got switched again, switched again,

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Speaker 1: and before that it was you know that machine gun

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Speaker 1: Carl or whatever his name is. I mean, can we

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Speaker 1: get like, can we get something?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 5: Here we go, yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: We can breathe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, Puppet Jonas, Oh my god, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: It is two pros and a cup of Joe here

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Gionas Knox with you

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Speaker 1: better known as Black and Track. We are going to

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Speaker 1: take you all the way up until the end of

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Speaker 1: this hour and nine am Eastern, six o'clock Pacific, and

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Speaker 1: we might have ourselves may I don't know, gamesmanship, maybe

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Speaker 1: a new strategy. Who's trying on? Something new here? Something new?

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Speaker 1: When it comes to Game five of the NBA Finals

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Speaker 1: later on tonight. And by the way, if you're wondering,

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Speaker 1: why aren't you recapping Game five? I don't know. Talk

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Speaker 1: to the NBA. They decided, no, we don't want to

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Speaker 1: play a game on Sunday night, even though there was

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Speaker 1: a day in between then we'll just space this out.

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Speaker 1: In fact, you don't want but let's do this even further.

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Speaker 1: Let's after tonight's game, let's don't play the next game

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Speaker 1: till Thursday. Like that'll be the move, you know, because

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Speaker 1: the NBA has got to try and squeeze this for

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Speaker 1: all they can and milk every storyline they possibly can

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Speaker 1: get from these NBA Finals. But maybe a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an interesting strategy here. Rick Carlisle, the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Indiana Pacers, decided to take a different approach.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times we criticize the officials, and we

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Speaker 1: meaning coaches in the NBA who want to get a

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Speaker 1: call the next game. They're critical of how the fouls

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Speaker 1: were laid out and who got more free throw attempts, etc. Etc.

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Speaker 1: Rick Carlile took a different approach and defended once Scott Foster.

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Speaker 6: I think it's awful what some of the things I've

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Speaker 6: seen about the officiating at Scott Foster in particular. I

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Speaker 6: know it Scott Foster for thirty years. He's a great official.

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Speaker 6: He's done a great job in his playoffs. We've had

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Speaker 6: him a lot of times, and the ridiculous scrutiny that's

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Speaker 6: being thrown out there is terrible and unfair and unjust

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Speaker 6: and stupid.

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Speaker 1: I like the approach. I like the approach, butter them up,

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Speaker 1: start defending the guys.

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Speaker 5: And.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, I get it.

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Speaker 5: You know, some people feel as though they need to

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Speaker 5: And it sounds like there's some personal feelings connected there

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Speaker 3: Say you're stupid if you're questioning.

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Speaker 5: Our officials officiate, I would have to say, you know,

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Speaker 5: in that moment, Rick, like know, like think, take two

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Speaker 3: I mean, okay, defend them.

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Speaker 5: Say you know, your opinion is that you feel as

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Speaker 3: But to say that.

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Speaker 5: It's stupid to have feelings towards how referees called games

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say that's just not a that's not

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Speaker 3: That's what i'd say.

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Speaker 1: You know, it does feel like like though the the

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Speaker 1: standard approach if you wanted to get some calls the

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Speaker 1: the media question, you know, it seemed like, you know,

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Speaker 1: on and so forth, you know, kind of passive aggressively

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Speaker 1: dance around the topic, and instead Rick Carlisle's like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ball wash these guys. I'm going to defend

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Speaker 1: I mean, this could be this could be a real

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Speaker 1: difference maker in the NBA Finals. Good for Rick Carlisle.

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Speaker 1: Different approach, Take that approach.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it is games miss ship.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you're going to if you're looking to

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Speaker 5: Unless the call is for your team, it's a bad

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Speaker 5: call the referees. I've never seen a game where you

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Speaker 3: Both sides, home, away, both teams.

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Speaker 5: Everybody is going to have a problem with the calls

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Speaker 5: That's just always been the nature of the game. The

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Speaker 5: not culpable for some of the things that they've done

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Speaker 5: how heavy or how shifted it can seem in terms

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Speaker 5: who doesn't get the calls. I mean, that's just part

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Speaker 1: It also doesn't help that they once had an official

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Speaker 1: was he was a degenerate gambler and decided, well, I'll

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Speaker 1: just I'll try and fix games that are playoff games

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Speaker 1: to boot and Scott Foster's name was one of those

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Speaker 1: names kind of thrown around. Is maybe he, you know,

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Speaker 1: to some people. So Rick Carlisle interesting approach. We'll see

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Speaker 1: another big event that's taken place later on tonight. For

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Speaker 1: those of you listening on the Blowtorch AM five to

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Speaker 1: seventy LA Sports, we were wondering, what is this going

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Speaker 1: to happen? Oh, it's going to happen tonight show. Heyo

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Speaker 1: Tani will be the starting pitcher for the Dodgers, as

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Speaker 1: announced last night. It was late last night they made

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Speaker 1: the announcement Padres Dodgers coming up later on tonight and

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Speaker 1: Show Heo Tani. We've been wondering he's been working back,

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Speaker 1: he's been throwing some sessions on the side. He's obviously

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Speaker 1: been fantastic at the plate, but we've not yet seen

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Speaker 1: him pitch with the Dodgers, and he will be the

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Speaker 1: the Padres coming up later on tonight. So that's always

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Speaker 1: fun to watch because it's something you don't hardly ever

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Speaker 1: it was Show Heo Tani, so that'll be fun.

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Speaker 3: There hardly get to see.

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Speaker 1: What I mean, a guy who's going to be pitching

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 5: I thought pictures were in the batting rotation. No, you

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Speaker 5: mean that he's an exciting hitter.

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Speaker 1: Well, so he's the starting pitcher, and he's also maybe

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Speaker 5: But that's what you're saying because most most pictures aren't

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Speaker 3: When they when they went to the designate hit for

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Speaker 3: a battery. Yeah, when they hit for four pictures.

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Speaker 1: It used to be the designated hitter was just in

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Speaker 1: show heyo Tani ever hit never.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's new to me. I didn't even know that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so they don't they don't like today years old,

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Speaker 5: knowing that now. Okay, yeah, so we're gonna get to uh,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna to see Otani go out there and uh

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 1: He's been working his way back.

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Speaker 5: I'm just going continue the reason why I didn't know

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Speaker 5: You can tell me about how it goes. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: didn't even know that that had happened. I like, I

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Speaker 5: was of the thought process that pictures still were in

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Speaker 5: the batting lineup, but they they uh, pictures would like

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Speaker 1: Most likely right, yeah, I mean you had you had

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Speaker 1: actually a really good hitter, was Fernando Valezuela that people

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Speaker 1: remember he was actually a really good, like really good athlete,

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Speaker 1: We are good. I wanted to ask you this because

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Speaker 7: Well, first, I want to say, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 5: Mike gets LeVar here man first and foremost, crazy crazy

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Speaker 3: I'm doing real well. Uh.

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Speaker 5: First and foremost, I'm hurt that I haven't received the

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Speaker 7: Uh. Second, of all, I've had a few of those

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Speaker 7: to go to tops, and so that was really popular, and

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Speaker 7: we said that wasn't enough. Just that alone wasn't enough.

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Speaker 7: We also want to make sure if any player got

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Speaker 7: hurt during the fresh quarter, we take the player out

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Speaker 7: of the player prop bet. And so we had hundreds

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Speaker 7: of thousands of bets that would have lost that would

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Speaker 7: have won. The reason I'm telling you this, it was

443
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Speaker 7: like the mindset of saying, we don't want to be

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Speaker 7: just another sports book. We want to make it better

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Speaker 7: for the fan. In the collectibles business, we said, what

446
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Speaker 7: are the problems we got to solve. We have people

447
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Speaker 7: talk about, you know, huge redemptions, that's like an io

448
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Speaker 7: you on a car like if you can to sign

449
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Speaker 7: your car, than you owe to the customer, and there

450
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Speaker 7: are hundreds of thousands of redemptions. They're outstanding. There hadn't

451
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Speaker 7: been a lot of marketing, a lot of product innovation,

452
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Speaker 7: so everything we're doing is around how do we make

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Speaker 7: it better for the fan. But today we have three

454
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Speaker 7: primary businesses. We have our fan gear business, our collectible

455
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Speaker 7: and trading cards business, and our sports betting and eye

456
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Speaker 7: game of business. And look, we've grown a lot. We

457
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Speaker 7: were two hundred and fifty million dollars in two thousand

458
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Speaker 7: and we know when I bought the company back in

459
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Speaker 7: twenty eleven, it will be close to twelve billion dollars

460
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Speaker 7: next year. But we still feel like a startup. We

461
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Speaker 7: still feel like we're just getting started. That's what's so

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Speaker 7: exciting for me.

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Speaker 1: Michael Rubin, Fanatic CEO, with us here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, Jonas NOx with you here on FSR. What's

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Speaker 1: been the most difficult part of your growth that you

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Speaker 1: look at and go this has been the hardest part.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. First of all, I think a lot of things

468
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Speaker 7: are like we grind every day, like people always think.

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Speaker 7: You see things like our Super Bowl party of the

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Speaker 7: White Party or Fanatics Fast, and it was like, oh man,

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Speaker 7: Michael Rubin's got the most fun life. And by the way,

472
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Speaker 7: I do have the most fun less but worth spend

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Speaker 7: my time. It's working seventeen hours a day at the business.

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Speaker 7: It's not like you know, it's not like what someone

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Speaker 7: may see on Instagram or imagine. I mean, this is

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Speaker 7: really about grind now. It's no different than like, you know,

477
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Speaker 7: Tom Brady wants seven super Bowls, so that guy grinded

478
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Speaker 7: harder than anybody in the planet to get those seven

479
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Speaker 7: super Bowls. So you know, we're grinding every day. I say,

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Speaker 7: probably the most difficult thing is when you go from

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Speaker 7: one business to three businesses to make sure that you've

482
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Speaker 7: got so many competitors that are trying to, you know,

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Speaker 7: kill you, make it make it hard for you. But

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Speaker 7: I like that. I'd say if I did the one

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Speaker 7: most difficult difficult thing, it's Fanatics Fest. I mean, that's

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Speaker 7: what we're in the middle of right now. We're going

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Speaker 7: to launch Fanatics Fest. It starts this Friday, goes for

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Speaker 7: three days. We're going to have more than one hundred

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Speaker 7: thousand fans come to the Javit Center that we took

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Speaker 7: over in the middle of New York City, and this

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Speaker 7: is a first of a kind of sports festival. But

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Speaker 7: what's hard is getting every sport in the world to

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Speaker 7: show up at Fanatics Fest. To get I think we

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Speaker 7: have more than three hundred athletes, celebrities, artists, the biggest

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Speaker 7: people in the world coming to this. So you've got

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Speaker 7: like people like Jay Z and Travis Scott. You've got

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Speaker 7: in basketball, Wemby lebron kd Kat James Harden all coming

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Speaker 7: in football. We moved this from August last year to

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Speaker 7: June so we could have all the activant of all players,

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Speaker 7: guys like Michael Parsons, your boy, who, by the way,

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Speaker 7: he's been talking a lot of smack about how he's

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Speaker 7: winning the financial games and taking a million dollars. We

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Speaker 7: got to see what he's made up. But you've got

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Speaker 7: half the NFL starting quarterbacks there this year. You've got

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Speaker 7: Russell Wilson, Jaden Danielskylo Williams, Bryce Young, Joe Burrow, you

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Speaker 7: got Brady Back. You've got so many, you know, the

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Speaker 7: top receivers here. So you know, I think just polling

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Speaker 7: together three hundred athletes, artists, celebrities all one place all

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Speaker 7: the sports together. That is, with that question, the hardest

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Speaker 7: thing that we do. But so we woarding. When you

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Speaker 7: see fans that just they lived in tears. They're so

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Speaker 7: happy they've had, you know, generations of a family coming

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Speaker 7: together and having such a great time. So for me,

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Speaker 7: that's probably the number one hardest thing I do. But

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Speaker 7: we're grinders to start with.

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Speaker 3: How are you able to do it? Mike?

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Speaker 5: Like I'm just listening to you know what the fest

518
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Speaker 5: is going to represent. There's a ton of money involved

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Speaker 5: that the fans can win. They get that opportunity to

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Speaker 5: do things that only you could dream of, which is

521
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Speaker 5: have the you know, chance to compete against guys like

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Speaker 5: for me, you know, I think the next thing you

523
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 5: gotta do, you gotta get uh, you gotta get Magnus.

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Speaker 5: You know, you gotta do like a chess tournament. I

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Speaker 5: want to play Magnus and chess, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: But that's that's a whole nother story you are able

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Speaker 5: to right now.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to be any details, but there might

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Speaker 7: be a chess surprise of course, tell you that I'm

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Speaker 7: not going to give any more details, but expect the

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Speaker 7: internet to break. Internet to buy a fight Friday or

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Speaker 7: Saturday when you see a little chess stunk going on.

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Speaker 7: We got one ups already.

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Speaker 5: Already, you've got that sarcasm. I know that that it

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Speaker 5: has to be sarcast true.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, Michael Parsons is actually part of it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, Well then now I do know it's true

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Speaker 5: because I definitely we definitely play each other.

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Speaker 7: Uh, I'm reading against them, by the way, just because

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Speaker 7: I love against Mike in general. It's generally a fun

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Speaker 7: thing for me to do.

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Speaker 5: So it is going to be a test master that

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Speaker 5: he's going to play a Graham. That's pretty dope.

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Speaker 3: Uh. How do you do it? How do you pull

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Speaker 3: all of it?

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Speaker 5: You talk about how hard it is, it's so many

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Speaker 5: moving pieces just to deal with a handful of celebrities,

548
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Speaker 5: a handful of athletes. How are you able to pull

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Speaker 5: all of these people together the way that you do.

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Speaker 3: How are you able to pull together.

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Speaker 5: The plan where you can monetize it in a way

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Speaker 5: where the fans not only get an experience, but actually

553
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Speaker 5: really have an opportunity to cash in on it.

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Speaker 3: How how do you do it?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Is it your team? Is it constant? Absolutely

557
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Speaker 3: from you, are you more of a process guys? It

558
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Speaker 3: more visionary? How do you pull together a fest like

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Speaker 3: this where.

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Speaker 5: It offers all of the elements and celebrities that it does.

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Speaker 7: Look, it's a great question. I think the first thing

562
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Speaker 7: you need to do is dream You got a dream bag, okay?

563
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Speaker 7: And for me, we were The idea for Finace Fest

564
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 7: came from is I had gone to so many music festivals.

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Speaker 7: I had been to south By Southwest, I had been

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Speaker 7: to Comic Con. And then in the in the trading

567
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Speaker 7: card business, you have these trading card shows which I'd

568
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Speaker 7: growing up as a kid going to, and they got

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Speaker 7: a really big one called the National, which is incredible

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Speaker 7: from the quantity of people they get. But it hasn't

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Speaker 7: really evolved a lot in the last thirty or forty years.

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Speaker 7: And so from my perspective, I said, why don't sports

573
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Speaker 7: fans have a sports festival? Like? I don't get it. It

574
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Speaker 7: doesn't make sense. So many other industries have this, and

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Speaker 7: so I'm just basically we're doing this. And I had

576
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Speaker 7: no fear whether it would work or not. So you know,

577
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Speaker 7: I went out. I got the guy who kind of

578
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Speaker 7: ran comic on New York and he joined fanatics, and

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Speaker 7: we were like, hey, we're gonna do the same thing

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Speaker 7: that they do in Comic Con in sports, and you know,

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Speaker 7: the reality is if I keep this real three reasons

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Speaker 7: before the first one last year, I'm like, how do

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Speaker 7: I get myself into this? This is a disaster. It's

584
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Speaker 7: so hard, Like do we really want to do this

585
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 7: because you're pulling out every you know, favor, you have

586
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Speaker 7: to just bring everyone together. But then you're like, sports

587
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 7: fans deserve it, Like we got to do this, like

588
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 7: push through. It's no different than I'm sure you in

589
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Speaker 7: the peak of some of your you know, craziest moments.

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Speaker 7: You know, you don't know it's going to be, just

591
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Speaker 7: you find a way to win. And that's what we did.

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Speaker 7: We have seventy thousand people come the first year, and

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Speaker 7: people absolutely loved it, Like I can't tell you that

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Speaker 7: the great feelings that everyone had seen, all these happy fans,

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Speaker 7: and you know, for me, that was the motivation we needed.

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Speaker 7: So this year we came back. We said, you know,

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Speaker 7: we got to make it better. We got to fix

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Speaker 7: all the things that did work. And by the way,

599
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 7: first year, lots of stuff weren't wrong, like our autograph

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00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 7: and and photo lines were a disaster the way we

601
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Speaker 7: set up the first year, but we went back and

602
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Speaker 7: we re envisioned the entire thing, and you know, like

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Speaker 7: this year it's going to be so much bigger, so

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Speaker 7: much better. We're taking over the entire building and a

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00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 7: million square feet again. You've got when you think about

606
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Speaker 7: bringing like you know, Jay z and Trapp, Kevin Hard,

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Speaker 7: you know all the starting quarterbacks I rattled off, you know,

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Speaker 7: lebron kd James Harden, Wemby, all these guys in the

609
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Speaker 7: same place. A Rod, Derek Jeter, you know, top top rustlers,

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Speaker 7: Cody Rhodes, John Cena, all these guys together. It does

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Speaker 7: take a ton, but look, we've got a great team

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Speaker 7: and we've just got a commitment to making sure we

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Speaker 7: make this as good as we can. But we're never satisfied.

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Speaker 7: Like I'm walking through this thing for before it opens,

615
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Speaker 7: every day after closes, I'm getting feedback from fans figuring

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Speaker 7: out what we can do better, and like we love it,

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Speaker 7: like it's it's like a total kid by five way.

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Speaker 7: We lost lots of money on the first time we

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Speaker 7: did it, were still losing money this year, but it

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Speaker 7: is a great marketing moment for Finax. We show up

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Speaker 7: in a great way, and when you know, you own

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Speaker 7: the internet for the weekend, and we're going to own

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Speaker 7: social media. Not I think just on Bri sighting Sunday,

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Speaker 7: but I think we're gonna own it for the week

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Speaker 7: because we have so many incredible moments coming. That's also

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Speaker 7: a fun thing for us to do.

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Speaker 1: You can find more information at Fanaticsfest dot com. It's

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Speaker 1: coming up this weekend, June twentieth to the twenty second

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Speaker 1: at the Javit Center in New York City. As mentioned,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking through the roster. There's not a

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Speaker 1: league that doesn't have a representative. There's I mean the

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Speaker 1: number of Hall of Famers, World champions, et cetera that

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Speaker 1: are going to be there this weekend. Awesome event. Again.

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Speaker 1: Michael Rubin, fanatics CEO. You can get him on x

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Speaker 1: at Michael Rubin and go to Fanaticsfest dot com for

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Speaker 1: more information on the event. Cannot thank you enough man,

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on all your success and looking forward to this weekend.

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Speaker 1: That'll be fun.

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Speaker 7: Hey, I appreciate you guys, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 7: I look forward to you guys.

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Speaker 3: Look, you guys, life sounds good.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 1: He is Michael Rubin with us here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You just look at the number of like we will

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Speaker 1: go to Super Bowl events and you'll see a ton

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Speaker 1: of celebrities, and you'll see a ton of people at

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Speaker 1: these certain events. If you just go through the roster

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Speaker 1: of superstars that are going to be there, they did

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Speaker 1: seventy thousand people as you mentioned last year. They've got

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Speaker 1: all that. But like you asked him of ar, like

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Speaker 1: how do you pull it off? It just it goes

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Speaker 1: to show you, like when people tell you, man, father

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Speaker 1: times undefeated. No, no, no, hard work's undefeated. If you

654
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Speaker 1: work your ass off, you can accomplish a lot. And

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Speaker 1: he's worked his ass off and he's grown a business

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Speaker 1: exponentially over the past number of years.

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Speaker 3: Phenomenal. That's a great point. And he's yeah he does.

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Speaker 5: And people rock with him, man, and listen that that

659
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: whole that's interesting because me and Micah play chess, like

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Speaker 5: that's that's our thing, is playing chess. I used to

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Speaker 5: really like bowling until I broke my wrist. That would

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Speaker 5: have been enter yeah, right, But yeah, I did use

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Speaker 5: to bowl bowl quite a bit, but I always have

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Speaker 5: loved chess.

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Speaker 3: So I think he's going to play.

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Speaker 5: I think he's going to play somebody like that would

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Speaker 5: be crazy if he played like Caspar Roth or or Magnus.

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Speaker 1: And didn't know Magnets just lose.

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Speaker 3: They just lost.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he got upset. I think it was like, was

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Speaker 1: it like a big upset or something like that.

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Speaker 3: It was a big one. Yeah, it was pretty big.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I was good. I'm not really much of

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Speaker 1: a chess guy. It's too easy. I prefer checkers, big checkers, guy,

675
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Speaker 1: connect four you want to get you want to get

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Speaker 1: that work, you can come find me and connect for

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Speaker 1: something along those lines. But when it comes to chess, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 5: Just too Yeah. I was on my way into to

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Speaker 5: uh Pittsburgh. I was playing playing his game on on

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Speaker 5: h on my flight and it only goes up to

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Speaker 5: fifteen you know. So I'm playing a fifteen year old

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Speaker 5: Magnus and I was close, it was coming close, and

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Speaker 5: I just couldn't beat them. Oh you fifteen year old

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Speaker 5: fifteen year old level.

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Speaker 1: So you can play different levels of him in the game.

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Speaker 5: I'll whoop his ass at what is it, five years old?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, whoop his ass.

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Speaker 1: Damn.

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Speaker 5: But I go up to the hardest level I go

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Speaker 5: up to he was actually qualifying to go to the

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Speaker 5: Worlds and compete and for a world championship, a world

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Speaker 5: title at fifteen. So dude is a He's a phenom.

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Speaker 5: Like I mean when you say phenom, like literally like

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Speaker 5: people like him, the things that they're able to do,

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00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 5: the way they're able to see the board, the way

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Speaker 5: they're able to understand what moves are because and chess,

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00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 5: a lot of it is memorization. People don't realize that,

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00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: but it's memorization like if somebody moves here, here are

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00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 5: the here are the right moves to make. If somebody

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00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: moves there, here's the right move, and so on and

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00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 5: so for or you can almost like kind of depending

702
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 5: on somebody's approach their style to playing, you can memorize

703
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 5: a lot of the game and so based off of

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00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 5: the move pattern. And so it takes somebody that's really

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Speaker 5: good to be able to get somebody to have to

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Speaker 5: make their own moves based off of thinking versus off

707
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 5: of memorization of this. If the board looks like this,

708
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 5: if the person moves here, if they do this, this

709
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 5: is what you do. Like it's kind of it's just

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00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 5: a crazy game, man, It's a crazy game because you

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00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 5: got to be almost like a computer, you know, like

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00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 5: Magnus was playing a game. I watched this as a

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Speaker 5: documentary on him.

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Speaker 3: He did. He played like sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Professors or ten professors at Harvard back like facing the

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Speaker 5: opposite direction of them, blindfolded.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't even looking at the boards. He had to.

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00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 5: He had had it memorized so well, he could give

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00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 5: you the court and it's make the moves.

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Speaker 3: And he made it. All of them, Harvard Harvard professors.

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Speaker 5: Like legal guys, just just very very intelligent people. He

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 5: made it all of them blindfolded, not even looking at

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Speaker 5: the board.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: So you asked him to throw football and he would

726
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Speaker 1: go into convulsions.

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Speaker 5: Oh well yeah, yeah, you know you smack him up now,

728
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 5: she smack him.

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00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 3: Body slammy, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 3: No, he's the type of he's smart. He might fly

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Speaker 3: away or something.

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Speaker 1: No, you don't know, man, he's got he's got propellers.

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Speaker 1: He's got a propeller.

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Speaker 3: He might fly away. Bro.

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Speaker 1: He's like he's like the kid from Goonies who's always

737
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: got like a weapon on me. He's got he's got

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Speaker 1: a boxing glove. On Iti.

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Speaker 5: What was his name, gizmo? Yeah, yeah, but his his

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Speaker 5: name was something like that. Yeah, le Data Data Data,

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Speaker 5: data Data.

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Speaker 3: That's it. Wow, what a nerd.

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Speaker 2: These might smell a little funk. Sounds incredible, but they're

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Speaker 2: still good. Time to find out what's lap?

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Speaker 1: It's lea all right, the laugh? What do we got.

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Speaker 1: Let's get some birthdays out of the way.

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Speaker 4: How about Phil Michelson left, He turns fifty five today,

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Speaker 4: obviously just played in probably his last major. Never did

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Speaker 4: get that US Open, and Tupac would have been fifty

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Speaker 4: four today, just just behind Phil Michelson fifty five and

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Speaker 4: fifty four.

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Speaker 1: I have a buddy who's an alcoholic who likes to

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Speaker 1: golf too, and we call him Rephil Michelson. Anything about that?

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Speaker 3: Gotta drink with the left hand about it?

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Speaker 1: Guy literally drinks every day. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's what is wrong with it. He realized that the

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00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: white the white claw, the white cans were only like

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Speaker 1: five percent, so he stuffed on the gas and started

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Speaker 1: drinking the blue cans. Now they're like eight are so gross.

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Speaker 1: He rips those daily. He's probably listening to.

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Speaker 4: What else we got, guys, you want Florida Man news

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00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: or Salt Lake City Man news.

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Speaker 3: Salt Lake Hell, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 4: Salt Lake City Man. Uh tried stabbing his buddy with

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Speaker 4: a wooden steak. Claiming that he thought he was a werewolf.

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Speaker 4: The problem with that is a wooden steaks are for vampires.

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Speaker 3: Silver bullets are from wolf. Yeah, silver bullet? Yeah, jeez.

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Speaker 3: Got did he succeed he?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: He choked out the guy first, and then he went

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Speaker 4: to go get a wooden steak with a nail. The

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00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: guy woke up and then fought back, but he was

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Speaker 4: attacked with the wooden steak, and then he stole his

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Speaker 4: backpack ran away.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: So, no, he did not succeed in uh vanishing the

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Speaker 4: uh the werewolf vanquishing vanquishing?

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Speaker 3: Guess what that was? The word that was he did

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Speaker 3: not take care of the were wolf. Okay, then what

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Speaker 3: happened in Florida?

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Speaker 1: First of all, why would he think his buddy was

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Speaker 1: a were wolf? Do we have picture of the buddy?

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Speaker 1: Does he look like a werewolve?

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Speaker 4: I do not have pictures of the of the assailants.

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Speaker 4: I love the victim, damn. But when they found him,

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Speaker 4: he had a bunch of rocks in his pockets. So

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't think everything was quite turning correctly.

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Speaker 3: For what was his name? Todd? Wasn't Todd? Out of town?

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Speaker 4: Todd got back into town I picked him up from

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Speaker 4: Burbank Airport on Friday after the show.

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Speaker 1: Hi Todd, Oh what what else we got to leave out?

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Speaker 1: So it's a Florida store man.

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Speaker 4: Seventy seventy year old gentleman was relieving himself on ten

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Speaker 4: thousand dollars worth of food at Sam's Club.

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Speaker 3: Here's my thing about it.

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Speaker 4: It was on a bunch of cans of spam and

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Speaker 4: Vienna sausages. You could just wash that off, right, they're

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Speaker 4: they're canned. But they had to throw away ten thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars worth of merchandise after how old is this guy?

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Speaker 3: Seventy years old?

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Speaker 1: Years?

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't need it.

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Speaker 5: After that, you probably could wash it off and tell,

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Speaker 5: you know, people not thing, but it's compromised, it's it's contaminated.

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Speaker 3: That was the right move.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, you could probably discount it.

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00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: Like when the cans of a debt and they put

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Speaker 1: them on that that aisle where they get the cheap

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Speaker 1: prices somebody will buy.

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Speaker 3: People would bounce, they bounce, they would