WEBVTT - Easter In Isolation

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<v Speaker 1>For the first time in probably seventeen hundred years, Christians

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<v Speaker 1>around the world will not be permitted to celebrate Easter

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<v Speaker 1>in public. What is a country founded on religious liberty

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do when the government locks the churches? This

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<v Speaker 1>is Verdict with Ted Cruz. Welcome back to Verdict with

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Cruz and Happy Easter. I'm Michael Knowles, Senator. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't be a celebrating today together or at a

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<v Speaker 1>safe social distance. I think I am not exaggerating here

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<v Speaker 1>when I say this might be the first time since

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<v Speaker 1>the Diocletian Persecution that Christians have not been able to

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<v Speaker 1>go to their churches on Easter. Is that an exaggeration? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I gotta say it is so commonplace to

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<v Speaker 1>have podcasts talking about the Diocletian Persecution. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it really I'm worried that we're going to run

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<v Speaker 1>into the traffic online. That's true, stright through the roof, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We you and I have never seen anything like this

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<v Speaker 1>in our lifetimes. And it's you know, all of us

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<v Speaker 1>were doing everything from home. Yeah, and whether that's church,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's work, whether that's time with the family, it

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<v Speaker 1>has good aspects to it, and it also makes people

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<v Speaker 1>pretty stir crazy. This, I think is the big issue

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<v Speaker 1>for people. I think for a while, people like taking

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<v Speaker 1>a few days off work. Obviously that got real old,

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<v Speaker 1>real fast when people lost their jobs. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>actually for the first few days of this shutdown, we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of excited. It was something new, it was dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we were all going to band together again. That

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got real old, real fast. The one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I think was always a sticking point was the churches.

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<v Speaker 1>The government closing down the churches. To my mind, that's

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<v Speaker 1>unprecedented in the United States. Is that what you're hearing

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing as well? I mean, is that just a

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<v Speaker 1>different category. Look, it's a hard challenge because if you have,

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<v Speaker 1>as we do, a pandemic, a public health outbreak, there

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<v Speaker 1>is precedent for quarantining laws, there's precedent for preventing large gatherings.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I will say it, in this time of crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people's real character comes out, who they are

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<v Speaker 1>comes out. And I got to say, some of these

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<v Speaker 1>democratic politicians are just jackbooted thugs. I mean, they're authoritarians

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<v Speaker 1>that they believe in the power of the state. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bild de Blasio, mayor of New York. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to New York has got it worse than than

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere else in the country. It is horrific, the deaths

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<v Speaker 1>that have happened there, the infections, people are scared. I

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<v Speaker 1>get all of that. But de Blasio said, listen, if

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<v Speaker 1>any church or synagogue meets, we're going to come after

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<v Speaker 1>you and we will permanently shut you down. Now, who

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<v Speaker 1>the hell are you to permanently shut a church or

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<v Speaker 1>synagogue then? And I actually understand saying okay, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have a public gathering. You know what my church is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're meeting virtually. Yeah, I think that actually makes good sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But you see some of these political leaders just eager

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<v Speaker 1>to strip away liberty and they seem to have a real,

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<v Speaker 1>real animosity to faith. That's right if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at New York. I mean, that's exactly the right

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<v Speaker 1>example where it's not de Blasio saying we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>shut you down for the whole of this pandemic. You

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to be allowed back into your building,

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<v Speaker 1>pastor until afterwards. But that's not where they stopped it.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually said we will permanently shut you down. And

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<v Speaker 1>he actually singled out churches and synagogues. He didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>after any other faith groups. He just went after churches

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<v Speaker 1>and synagogues. How convenient. You know. It's not just de

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<v Speaker 1>Blasio though. It's going on around the country and even

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<v Speaker 1>for the people. I know a lot of conservatives where

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<v Speaker 1>we want to keep our rights, but we're obviously willing

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<v Speaker 1>to entertain some quarantine. Pennsylvania, they arrested a woman for

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<v Speaker 1>driving her car. Oh my god, you know, driving your car.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not violating social distancing. You're sitting in your own

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<v Speaker 1>damn car, like like, this is not a police state, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And and you're seeing, you know, North Carolina that they

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<v Speaker 1>invest arrested David Benham. David David Jason Benham. The Bennam

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<v Speaker 1>brothers are friends of mine. They're great guys. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>the North Carolina governor, a Democrat, determined that that elective

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<v Speaker 1>abortions are essential, and so that abortion clinics could gather,

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<v Speaker 1>they could all get together. And so the Bennam brothers

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<v Speaker 1>went outside and and and wanted to provide pregnancy counseling,

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to peacefully h tell moms that we're coming in

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<v Speaker 1>that we're considering abortions. You know, they're alternatives. If if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to pursue adoption, here are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>resources available to you. Right, And and they sent the

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<v Speaker 1>police to arrest them. And actually the video I tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>out the video. I did encourage you to watch that

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<v Speaker 1>video because, uh, you know, David is he said, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>we're being peaceful. He's very calm, he's not angry, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not they're not harassing anyone. He said, we're six feet away,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gathering, we're not leading social distancing. But but

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<v Speaker 1>if the governor is going to say that that the

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<v Speaker 1>abortion is essential, that the doctors and all the staff

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<v Speaker 1>can gather there more than ten people in public, then

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<v Speaker 1>how can that be essential? But yet the counseling of

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<v Speaker 1>pregnancy alternatives is not equally essential to And it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>the officers are arresting him, and you could see the

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<v Speaker 1>officers are reluctant, and David, to his credit, he's praising

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<v Speaker 1>the officers. He said, listen, thank you for your service.

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<v Speaker 1>Particularly now, I mean he's polite, he's praising them, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just shows Look, and I don't want to make

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<v Speaker 1>this partisan. And if there are are Republicans doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>I will happily call them out too. It just seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be it's the democratic governors and the Democratic mayors

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<v Speaker 1>that that in that instance, you know, he's he's hard

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<v Speaker 1>pro abortion and hard and anti pro life, and and

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's not if you want to say neither

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<v Speaker 1>of them are essential. Fine that I actually understand that determination.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't pick one side and silence those that

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<v Speaker 1>would try to give it so ironic, and it totally

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<v Speaker 1>gives away the game where they say, if you gather

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<v Speaker 1>together to procure an abortion, that will not endanger your life.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you something, abortion one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the time in danger's life. They say, no, that

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<v Speaker 1>won't endanger your life. But if you go and offer

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<v Speaker 1>some counseling, you also gathered together, that will endanger your life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so backwards, it's such a power grab. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>certain states have made exceptions, and you know, in Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>they arrested a dad for playing t ball with his kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's nutty. I spoke last night to a

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<v Speaker 1>Nevada state legislator who was complaining the Nevada governor has

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<v Speaker 1>shut down golf courses. Now I gotta say, Michael, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to think of a sport more situated to social distancing. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're with it, if you're closer than six feet,

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't doing it right right like you ever, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all for acting sensibly to protect the public safety.

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<v Speaker 1>But but there's some that are just eager to put

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<v Speaker 1>on that jackboot and it's scared. Now, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>make of these different states? I mean, some states they've

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<v Speaker 1>been arresting pastors if they try to hold services. Other

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<v Speaker 1>states have made an exception for religious services, and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know at various state by state. Luckily we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had one national, one size fits all policy for this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how is that going to play out even

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<v Speaker 1>after the pandemic's over. Listen, our law has always respected

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<v Speaker 1>religious liberty. The First Amendment protects religious liberty. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should should do everything possible to protect people's right

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<v Speaker 1>of faith. At the same time, I think the responsible

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do is to act to protect the community.

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<v Speaker 1>So so my church, Ide and I are members of

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<v Speaker 1>a First Baptist church in Houston. It's a big, big church.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been going to church virtually online. Our pastor made

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<v Speaker 1>the very I think, very sensible decision to say We're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to bring people together and have thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>people in a sanctuary while there's a global pandemic going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I will say, as it's Easter Easter,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you Easter Sunday. From for as long as

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<v Speaker 1>I can remember, we would always go to church on

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<v Speaker 1>Easter Sunday, that's and celebrate the Jesus. But it's worth

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<v Speaker 1>also remembering, you know, for those of us who are Christians,

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<v Speaker 1>the church is not a building. The church is not

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<v Speaker 1>bricks or mortars. So I'm I'm sad not to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to be able to sing and have the

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<v Speaker 1>music in person. It's nice to be able to worship together.

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<v Speaker 1>But it actually has been beautiful. So what we do

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<v Speaker 1>every Sunday morning is we come down, come down to

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<v Speaker 1>the living room and we put we put the live

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<v Speaker 1>stream of our church up up up on the TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and Heidi and the girls and I just the four

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<v Speaker 1>of us in the living room and we'll watch and participate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have to kind of drag the girls

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<v Speaker 1>out of bed, and you know, it's nice. I'll have

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<v Speaker 1>a cup of coffee and I'll confess I've done church

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes and my slippers normally did same here. I'm ashamed

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<v Speaker 1>to say, but I did. But you know it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Number One, I was talking to my pastor earlier this week.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that that that the viewership has gone through

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<v Speaker 1>the roof, that a ton of people are logging on

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<v Speaker 1>and watching it online who wouldn't necessarily come in person.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is interesting because we're ending up having much

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<v Speaker 1>longer conversations with our girls about about the sermon, about

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. You know, if you're in church, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk talk in church and bother people.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in your living room, you can talk to

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<v Speaker 1>each other and you can say, hey, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about what he just said? And you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can have conversations that flow out of it. That that

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<v Speaker 1>are you know, what the Bible said is that is

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<v Speaker 1>the Church is the body of believers, is everyone who

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<v Speaker 1>is a Christian? That we're the church, not the building.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and and so even though East Easter Sunday, most

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<v Speaker 1>of us are not going to be at a physical church.

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<v Speaker 1>If if we are giving thanks for Jesus's resurrection, that

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<v Speaker 1>we're celebrating Easter and the church is celebrating and and

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope also listen. This is a time, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember back when Hurricane Harvey hit Texas and it

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<v Speaker 1>was devastating in Texas, second costless natural disaster in US history,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really amazing to see the churches all

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<v Speaker 1>throughout Texas, especially on the Gulf Coast, coming out and

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<v Speaker 1>helping people, helping people whose homes had been destroyed. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>they had was lost. And it was a time when

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<v Speaker 1>the church was doing what the church should. The church

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<v Speaker 1>should be helping people, people in need, people who are

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<v Speaker 1>scared people. You know our church, we've had one member

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<v Speaker 1>of a woman in our eighties who died of COVID

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen and you know, the ministry for seniors. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for seniors to be isolated. And this is a time,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope and I believe the church is doing more

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<v Speaker 1>to help people who are scared, who are in need,

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<v Speaker 1>even if we don't gather in person. It's much more

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<v Speaker 1>important for the church to reflect the love of Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>than to stand in one particular building, right. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's something else going on here too with regard

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<v Speaker 1>to the pandemic, which is people always think about Easter,

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<v Speaker 1>but you forget that you don't get Easter without Good Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a reminder. This whole season of Lent, which

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, has corresponded exactly with the coronavirus pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Lent begins and you get ashes on your head if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Catholic or a certain other denominations, and they say, remember, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you are dust to dust, you shall return. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>very easy in modern life to forget that someday, eventually

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<v Speaker 1>we're all going to die. We might not die from

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<v Speaker 1>the coronavirus, let's hope, but we will die eventually. And

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<v Speaker 1>that reminder that, you know, I think it was doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson said, hanging concentrates the mind. You know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>look death straight in the face, it focuses you on

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger questions. In a way, locking down the churches

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<v Speaker 1>might have a pretty positive effect on religion in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>It also brings families together, whether you whether you like

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<v Speaker 1>it or not. Look, Caroline said, you know, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>stand it. I've been in this house for a month,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean and she's eleven, and I'm like, sweetheart,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we all had we're like ready to jump

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<v Speaker 1>out the windows. But there have also been so every

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<v Speaker 1>day Heidi and I. We've had had had lunch with

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<v Speaker 1>the girls. We've had dinner with the girls. That's never

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the whole time we've been a family. We've

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<v Speaker 1>never had and and I'll tell you one thing we've started.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've started doing a couple of things. When we

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<v Speaker 1>go for walks every evening, um sometimes family walks, we

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<v Speaker 1>walk the dog. Sometimes it's just tidy in me, but

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<v Speaker 1>like the whole neighborhood is out walking and and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like like Central Houston. Now it's we're six feet apart.

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<v Speaker 1>We stay, we stay at a distance, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>Central Houston became Mayberry. I mean, it's an amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But something else we've started doing that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do for a long time is every night we're reading

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<v Speaker 1>from the Bible and listen. I've wanted to do that

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<v Speaker 1>regular and we've done it. Sometimes we've done it sporadically,

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<v Speaker 1>but not with real discipline. And part of it is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being in the Senate. Typically I get up

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<v Speaker 1>Monday mornings, I fly to DC and I'm gone for

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<v Speaker 1>four days. I come back Thursday night. It's hard as

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<v Speaker 1>a dad if you're in town two three days a week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to sort of have a family discipline of

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<v Speaker 1>after dinner we sit down and read the Bible. And

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<v Speaker 1>and I've I've been like guilty in thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to do more of it. And so with

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<v Speaker 1>all this time at home, how do you and I

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<v Speaker 1>just decid all right, we're going to do this. And

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<v Speaker 1>our girls didn't like it. I mean, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>big battle. It was not that this was not mild

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<v Speaker 1>or easy. And so we started with just Matthew chapter

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<v Speaker 1>one and reading three chapters a night. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>first night it took us hour hour and a half

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<v Speaker 1>to get through three chapters. The girls were acting up.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was a bit of a mess. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting we've gotten through. I think we're like Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>chapter twenty four. Um, so, so we haven't done it

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<v Speaker 1>that long, but it's been been each night and it

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<v Speaker 1>has been really And what's interesting is it just so

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<v Speaker 1>happens we're right now moving into good Friday and Easter,

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<v Speaker 1>like like just just the timing worked out. We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and planet like this. But but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>last Sunday was was Palm Sunday and we were we

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<v Speaker 1>were reading in Matthew where it talks about Palm Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesus riding into Jerusalem on the back of a donkey.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, my pastor said something very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't know. I don't know if you knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that Palm Sunday, the Sunday before Easter,

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<v Speaker 1>was the day traditionally in Judaism when they selected the

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<v Speaker 1>lamb to be sacrificed. I did not know that. I

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<v Speaker 1>had never heard that. Our pastor said that this last Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought that was fascinating because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>what we've been talking about with the girls was the

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<v Speaker 1>parallel with Passover and and and and the entire story

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<v Speaker 1>of Passover, which we kind of take digressions as we're

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<v Speaker 1>reading the Bible to say, Okay, the people of Israel

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<v Speaker 1>were in captivity in Egypt, and and the ten plagues,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Catherine sang a song on the ten plagues

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<v Speaker 1>like that that that struck Egypt. But but you know

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about, you know that for the Angel

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<v Speaker 1>of Death to pass over your home, that you had

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<v Speaker 1>to put the lamb's blood on the side of the door,

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<v Speaker 1>on the top, and and and that that that that

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<v Speaker 1>is what Easter is all about, is that Jesus was

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<v Speaker 1>the Lamb sacrificed for us, and the passover Lamb Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>was that same sacrifice and that story. Having the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it at this time we're Easter's at home,

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<v Speaker 1>it has made it, I think, in many ways more

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful than being in a big service for the converse. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is something that my wife and I

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<v Speaker 1>have been doing too in our little one bedroom apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>I think probably my greatest risk of death right now

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<v Speaker 1>is not any pandemic. It's going to be murder when

0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.520
<v Speaker 1>my wife finally snaps. But if that doesn't happen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the meantime, what we've been doing, especially because we're Catholics,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have certain icons and religious images around and

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<v Speaker 1>when we go to church now, the church is at

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen table, and we live stream it in from

0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.240
<v Speaker 1>our priests who's down in southern California, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>him on a live stream, and it really focuses you

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<v Speaker 1>on these images. So it's just my wife and I

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in kitchen chairs. You know, there's no smells and bells,

0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.040
<v Speaker 1>there's no beautiful music going on. It's really just us

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<v Speaker 1>contemplating some of these images, listening to these words, listening

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<v Speaker 1>to these prayers, and you know, it does remind you

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<v Speaker 1>when Jesus says, when you pray, go into your innermost closet,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do it in solitude and really make it

0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.840
<v Speaker 1>about that connection to God. And it just gives you

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<v Speaker 1>another sense when you go and pray the Rosary at

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<v Speaker 1>night and it's just the two of you and everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>quiet and no one's outside. In a way, it really

0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:17.080
<v Speaker 1>amplifies your prayer and your spiritual connection to God, even

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<v Speaker 1>when you can't go into your own church. Well, and

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll say this this also cuts across face. So

0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.200
<v Speaker 1>some good friends of ours who are who are neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>who are Jewish, and they celebrated this week their Passover Sader,

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<v Speaker 1>which which ordinarily they would do with the whole extended family.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were telling me, Okay, so we're just doing

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<v Speaker 1>it with you know, mom and dad. And they have

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<v Speaker 1>a daughter who's really close friends with Caroline, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have a son is a little bit younger, and they said,

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing is just they're face timing on I

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<v Speaker 1>think iPads with their extended family. So with parents and sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they're not you know, most of us are

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<v Speaker 1>not seeing our parents. My dad's eighty one, my mom's

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five. I've seen either one of them and over

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<v Speaker 1>a month because I'm not going to jeopardize their health.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is interesting, even a passover Satyer. You know,

0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been to a lot of sators and they're wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>and fun. But you think of them as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big groups of multi generational extended family, and with technology,

0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you can even do that if it's just a few

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<v Speaker 1>of you and you're trying to socially distance, you can

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<v Speaker 1>still you can still have a wonderful faith and family

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<v Speaker 1>experience together. And I suspect we'll look back at these.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't surprise me if when our girls are grown

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<v Speaker 1>they look back to this time of spending day after

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<v Speaker 1>day and week after week together as a family as

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<v Speaker 1>some of their favorite time ever. Now they wouldn't admit

0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>that now, right who, but it it is. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline is in our front yard right now, building a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a treehouse and a tree and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming and pulling me out of I'm on conference calls

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<v Speaker 1>with work and doing all just I'm in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of what basically a teletour across Texas, like meeting talking

0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:12.040
<v Speaker 1>with all different communities. But like Caroline comes comes yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>and says, you know, Dad, we need your help to

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<v Speaker 1>cut the lumber. I'm not very handy, but but thankfully

0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I have told her, okay, no power tools. As an

0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.760
<v Speaker 1>eleven year old, I don't want severed digits. So I

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<v Speaker 1>got the jig saw and managed to cut the board

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<v Speaker 1>without in fact severing any of my digits. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was good. But it's kind of right in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. It's like, like, come to the garage

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<v Speaker 1>and let's cut lumber to build the treehouse. There's something

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<v Speaker 1>really nice about that. I've noticed the same thing as

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned with your friends in the Passover Sader people,

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<v Speaker 1>family members, old friends that I have not called in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. Now, we're just doing calls because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what people are doing. I mean, it's and speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>connecting with people virtually. I know we've only got a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes left, but I do want to get to

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<v Speaker 1>some of the mail bag because we've got some very

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<v Speaker 1>important questions here. Probably this is the most important one

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<v Speaker 1>that I've read in weeks. Senator Amber does Ted think

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Exotic should be pardoned? I'm serious, I want his opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael can answer to Senator, what's your answer? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>will say I cracked up laughing that this week at

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<v Speaker 1>the White House Press conference, they asked if Joe Exotic

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<v Speaker 1>should be should be pardoned, and and President Trump, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure he knew what was going on, but said yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have to look at that. And then that was

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<v Speaker 1>that was pretty durn funny. You know, I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>pet theory. Yeah that that that that the prospect of

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Exotic being pardoned is why Obama delayed endorsing Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden because you know, look, I apparently Joe Exotic ran

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<v Speaker 1>for president in twenty sixteen against against me. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know it at the time, against Trump. So who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Joe Exotics on the ballot in twenty twenty and

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<v Speaker 1>Obama's holding the the endorsement back uh waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger King endorse. This is the most brilliant political insight

0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I have seen in so long. I am now, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know my feelings on Joe Exotic getting a pardon,

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<v Speaker 1>other than I indorse Barack Obama endorsing Joe Exotic. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that means we got to spring him from

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<v Speaker 1>the slammer. A very good point, Senator. Next question from Peter,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any evidence that China purposely delayed and lied

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<v Speaker 1>in their report in order to tank the world economy

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<v Speaker 1>considering that theirs was already in shambles. So that's an

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:29.080
<v Speaker 1>interesting question. There is absolutely evidence that China purposely delayed

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<v Speaker 1>and that they covered up that when the Wuhan outbreak

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<v Speaker 1>was ongoing, that that they hid evidence of it, that

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<v Speaker 1>they punished the scientists who were trying to blow the whistle,

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<v Speaker 1>including the doctor who courageously did it anyway and has

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<v Speaker 1>since died of COVID nineteen. You know, I'm not aware

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<v Speaker 1>of any evidence that they did it with the intent

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<v Speaker 1>of tanking the global economy. I think that's probably a stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Although when it comes to ascribing malign intentions to the

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Chinese communist you almost can't stretch two minds, no limit.

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:07.000
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I had an I had an old

0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 1>boss who was a federal judge who used to say,

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<v Speaker 1>never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence,

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<v Speaker 1>and and listen, I think the Chinese covered it up

0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:22.080
<v Speaker 1>because they were embarrassed, because they didn't want people to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a very real possibility that this outbreak

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<v Speaker 1>occurred from from some sort of accidental transmission. There were

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<v Speaker 1>two two facilities within miles of the Wuhan Wet Market

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<v Speaker 1>where we think this started. That we're studying coronaviruses in

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<v Speaker 1>bats and um. I haven't seen any evidence that this

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:46.919
<v Speaker 1>was Look, there's some internet theories that this was manufactured

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<v Speaker 1>and is like bio terrorism. You know. Look, I'm skeptical

0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:54.679
<v Speaker 1>that the Chinese government would release a virus on their

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<v Speaker 1>own people. We've seen tyrannical governments torture and murder their people,

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<v Speaker 1>but doing it deliberately. I've seen no evidence of that.

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>What strikes me as entirely plausible is that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a screw up from one of the labs that that

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>may have been studying this virus. As I said, we

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 1>know they were studying coronaviruses from bats, and then the

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:21.439
<v Speaker 1>whole cover up was to hide their embarrassment, to hide there.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that matters is if they hadn't covered

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<v Speaker 1>it up, we could have gone in. We could have

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<v Speaker 1>contained this outbreak maybe and found the people who were

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 1>infected and isolated them and dug the contact tracing and

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>potentially stopped this outbreak from becoming an epidemic and then

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<v Speaker 1>a pandemic. That if you stop it at the origin,

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>it is entirely possible that that that the death swirldwide

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 1>and the trillions of dollars of economic destruction could have

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.639
<v Speaker 1>been covered up if the Chinese had it could have

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 1>been stopped if the Chinese hadn't engaged in this cover up.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, final question, this is maybe the most important

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.920
<v Speaker 1>one ball What are you eating on Easter? And who

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:05.920
<v Speaker 1>is doing the cooking? You know, it's funny. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So yesterday Heidi and I were taking our walk and

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and and and Heidi's was like, all right, what do

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 1>we want to do for Eastern I'm like, well, what

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>do you mean what do you want to do for

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Eastern She's like, well, we need to like do something

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 1>for Eester. I'm like, did your family do like big

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Easter things? And like, I gotta admit my family like

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<v Speaker 1>we would go to church, yeah, and then we just

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<v Speaker 1>come home and hang out as a family. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a Sunday. I mean, we didn't like it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>put on the suit and tie. It was I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was not. And we had this big discussion because

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Heidi kept asking, we no know what do we want

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<v Speaker 1>to do? And I'm like, what do you mean? Do

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>like same thing we do? And she's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>how about an Easter egg hunt. I'm like, okay, if

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>we've done those for our girls. And I think Catherine,

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<v Speaker 1>who's nine, she's more into it than Caroline, is probably

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<v Speaker 1>a little too cool for an Easter egg hunt. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, sure, if you want to get some plastic

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<v Speaker 1>eggs and put candy or money in them, put in

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<v Speaker 1>the backyard, we can do that. But um, so, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what we're gonna eat, that's the short answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Will probably Heidi and I are terrible cooks, yeah, although

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline has begun cooking at home, so we haven't figured

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<v Speaker 1>it out. As the short answer, I think we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>a nicer, nicer meal than just cold pizza, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know what it'll be, and maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 1>order out. It's literally Heidi is pressing me, saying we

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<v Speaker 1>need to have a big sort of Easter meal. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>most Easters I would have done, like gone to church,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like gone and taking my mom out to

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<v Speaker 1>dinner or something and done like a brunch at a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're obviously not going to do that. You can

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<v Speaker 1>always have the mimosas, but you got to do it

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<v Speaker 1>at home. You know. It's funny because I think what

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<v Speaker 1>most people are gonna do is more like what you

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<v Speaker 1>did growing up, which is it'll be the first Easter

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<v Speaker 1>in the pajamas, and frankly, that doesn't sound so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>A nice time to spend with family, obviously, Senator, Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Easter to you, and happy Easter to everybody else who

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<v Speaker 1>is listening. I'm Michael Knowles. This is Verdict with Ted Cruz.

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